arms

[burnt gale]

Ah. Didn't consider the fob interaction and CM stacks. Was just thinking Exe and MS

I'm only up to doing 16s so I'm by no means an expert. Was just trying to offer some perspective to folks who were asking basic questions. Thank you both for the education this morning

[dim basalt]

You werent wrong about going Slayer when coming from Fury though

[latent moss]

yeah

colo is...

[dim basalt]

Slayer likes mastery a bit more

[latent moss]

acquired taste

for me at least

[dim basalt]

Col you can sit at 40% crit and still want to stack more

[latent moss]

i still like it more than slayer but when doing weeklies and shit slayer is just

press buttons

no funnel no problem

110k st

[burnt gale]

I find it the opposite. When I play Slayer I feel rage starved. Having a shaman in groups helps.

[neat locust]

Same here tbh haha

[latent moss]

colo actually needs shaman more

colo is absolutely miserable on st without one

[burnt gale]

I'm probably pressing execute too much

[daring heron]

slayer doesnt get as rage starved as much as col

overpower is a good button

dont ignore it

[latent moss]

sd procs more and bs is an unskippable cutscene

[daring heron]

and you get tons of sd procs for free globals ye

[latent moss]

bro i swear demolish still canceuls ur auto

[dim basalt]

gotta love the cutscene

[latent moss]

or delays it or something

[daring heron]

yes it pauses it at the very least

[latent moss]

👍

[daring heron]

might even fully reset still idk

[latent moss]

then takes an insane amount of time to start autoing again

[dim basalt]

God forbid we get a tracker for autos

[latent moss]

i used to wait for auto then demo but i cant know anymore

[daring heron]

but it's usually not that bad in keys imo since you usually auto and slap some mobs with stuff before you commit to cds anyway

[latent moss]

yeah and bloodsurge is giant

in aoe

if u just avoid starving on opener

u wont starve ever in aoe

[burnt gale]

Fine, I will try Slayer again in my next push key. But when I brick it, I'll tell them to blame the Arms section of Skyhold

[dim basalt]

You will likely never brick a key because you didnt play the other hero spec ngl

[burnt gale]

Challenge accepted!

I agree. Just when I've played Slayer I felt like I wasn't pulling my weight in aoe. ST feels better than Col though

[latent moss]

W pruning

[dim basalt]

I honestly dont mind the amount of buttons we have

Get rid of rav and avatar and its fine

[latent moss]

same i just like making fun of it

[dim basalt]

Imagine we become dk 2.0

2 buttons for ST and 2 for aoe

ggwp

[burnt gale]

Give us Bloodlust

Can't, too many buttons

[dim basalt]

Tank class with bl will never happen

[burnt gale]

Why?

[dim basalt]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[burnt gale]

Tank classes with BR is a thing.

Aren't we in a tank shortage right now?

Isn't part of Resto Shaman rise in popularity due to it having Bloodlust for the meta comp?

[dim basalt]

If they wanted tanks to have bl theyd have given us that long time ago Im sure

[latent moss]

i miss colo

havent played it in a while

[daring heron]

i'm back to colo

except sky and aa probably

[burnt gale]

Didn't you say in a recent vid that you were glad you didn't have to play Colo?

[sacred zodiac]

yeah crit get gotcha'd

[daring heron]

yes

tbf we didnt do big funnel tech everywhere until recently

[neat locust]

care to elaborate : D?

[latent moss]

colossus very very powerful

if u pull around it

[daring heron]

cc'ing 2 mobs, then pulling 2+ other mobs into boss

funnel until first 2 die and then the cc'd mobs arrive to be funneled from again

gg colo strong

[burnt gale]

I bet if you can plan you're while dungeon around always having 3+ mobs to hit, this game could be pretty fun

[placid prawn]

On Slayer, am I actually waiting for CS to send Bladestorm in M+? Don't you end up wasting a lot of CDR from sudden death?

[latent moss]

i found

a screenshot

of arms pre all buffs and cleave nerfs

all 3 packs on vexamus

area

platform where the boss is

[latent moss]

ye but cs is

insanely strong

[vernal flame]

i must be playing it completely incorrectly then but cba to go into log for review - ty tho

[mortal sapphire]

Hi guys, I'm looking for which trincket to use here for my 14/15 keys, I just wanna know which one's should be used until I get my raid BIS, ty !

[floral ledge]

sim is ur best answer

[hasty pumice]

Based

[vagrant aspen]

Soul kind of sucks to pay attention to even if it sims better than your other two

[lucid atlas]

guys i have HC gaze in my vault but when i sim it the sim tells me that Vorasius Mythic and belo hc trinked is the is better by over 2k is there a bug with Gaze or can i trust the sim?

[woeful fossil]

Trust the sim

[feral breach]

Did you compare the fully upgraded gaze with the void thing?

[lucid atlas]

yeah

well i anyways get it next week on mythic

[novel raven]

What dungo do you have in mind when u say this, I do skyreach and MT cc funnel, ik ppl started doing 1 Para on pit 2nd boss to extend 3target, but I can't even think of what 4mob pull is being brought into bosses

[daring heron]

windrunner spire both wings

maisara 1st boss berserkers and bears

scroungers in npx

theres a lot

[novel raven]

What are the other 2 elites your finding for emberwing?

Just taking spore into dragons insta and CCing the natty ghosts?

Besides the normal 2

[daring heron]

i dont remember but we cc 2 of the elite elves early on when you get to that outside part

those 2 get added later to boss

[neon shale]

M+ titte is based on faction or class oro overall

[novel raven]

People said early that arms in pugs vs arms in premades was a big gap, and i disagreed at the time, felt like most pugs could set up basic funnel in the 20/21 range

But if we are getting played around to that extent. It's insane

[daring heron]

yeah it's leveled up for sure

[novel raven]

Makes sense the recent gap ive seen tho, my purple and blue 21s were getting crushed by ur recent logs

[small juniper]

I don't understand the interaction between Thunder Clap and Rend. Rend deals instant damage right now, is this instant damage applied when you Thunder Clap, too? Or does Thunder Clap add only the DoT part to the enemies?

[minor gust]

Only the rend dot is applied when you clap

[latent moss]

wording is omega ass

unless ure already familiar with the class ure bound to be confused

[small juniper]

So it's basically a damage loss to use Thunder Clap instead of Rend?

[latent moss]

yep

[small juniper]

got it. Seems like a trap =-)

[latent moss]

yeah it is

especially if u played arms while u still tc'd on aoe for rend

[small juniper]

I did, that's why I was stuck a bit

[minor gust]

TC basically just existing now for thane

That's it

[small juniper]

Or maybe for additional aoe aggro grab for prot?

[minor gust]

How much we betting on FOB nerfs on top of losing our tier in 12.1

[latent moss]

prot plays tc anyway

[latent moss]

ngl

[daring heron]

i dont think they really know or care

[latent moss]

i wouldnt mind if it got nerfed and our st got buffed but the problem with this

in like max 2 seasons

they will just forget about it

and we will lose our funnel

[daring heron]

since colo is still not meta and is still ass in raid

our set is insane anyway for aoe

cleave extending cs is crazy

[latent moss]

cant wait to lose it with no compensation

the warrior way

ok but imagine this

they add it as 4th apex

[minor gust]

Compensation will be fury level tier set (so complete ass)

[latent moss]

and add iftk

iftk with duration tied to cs duration

hoooooooly

man i miss iftk

[daring heron]

fury is pretty good already even with non existent tier set

maybe next tier is the one

[latent moss]

can they like

remove aug

or make it a tank or a real dps

genuinely worst addition to the game

[small juniper]

and add gladiator

[sharp tide]

i was about to say that they removed gladiator so why not aug

[latent moss]

they could revive it by letting fury use spells with 2h and shield and give it a tank passive

more stamina armor and make shield block 2 charges by default

u would be insanely useless in any real content

but would be fun to be 4th dps in weekly keys ig

[wind hatch]

[meager bay]

Good afternoon everyone, I used the wow analyzer, and I'm getting 41% of my errors wrong.You frequently skipped casting Execute when Sudden Death was present or your target was below 35% HP and you had at least 200 Rage Rage and your target was below 35% HP.
41% of mistakes,How can I improve? I need to use the "execute" function more often, because I only use it when it's triggered. Could someone help me with a simple way for me to understand? I'm new to Warrior.ty

[rare helm]

did they ever change unhinged back to working with SS or does blizzard still hate us

[halcyon valve]

they still hate us

[sacred zodiac]

no but ms doesnt even proc reap anymore

[hexed inlet]

Youre not executing enough. You arent using your sudden death procs enough and during execute phase your not dumping your rage enough on execute. Basically spam execute more in the execute window.

[surreal spade]

hello, slayer enjoyers: what is the best build in overall?

[midnight mural]

CcEAjLzRlq54bI5v+r8Sr9Xw4jZmxsMzMzYGAAAghphxYmZbZmZmZYGzMAAAAAGbmB2iBsZGDLwAzoNaMYBMzwwgZzsNYmBAYmhB

[surreal spade]

thanks

[midnight mural]

np

[surreal spade]

bru

HAHAHAH

[untold vault]

What r the best M+ trinkets? I dont have guild and will never pug mythic raids, got only hero options at 285. So the M+ bonus rolls are my only chance to get myth track trinkets

[limpid lotus]

Puzzle box and one from skyreach

[untold vault]

Now give me answer i want to hear, not the puzzle box xd

[reef prairie]

the answer is you should really just pug vorasius and dreamrift

on mythic

[untold vault]

I would like to, but groups fall apart after one wipe IF i ever get invited at all because everybody wants curved

[reef prairie]

its probably the skyreach trinket and like

a hero gaze, i guess?

[toxic osprey]

Wind thing from windrunner

And the prism

[reef prairie]

Oh yea heart of wind maybe

[untold vault]

Gaze sims worse than heart and box for some reason

[reef prairie]

Id Sim hero vorasius trinket and hero gaze

Dont use pbox that shit is ass

[wide needle]

hero vorasius and solarflare prism simmed best for me

[untold vault]

I know! i have to use it on paladin and it sucks ass

[wide needle]

i have 1200 crit too so prob more value if you have less

this shit clicking here today for some reason keeping up with the 285s in my group

still dog at st i must be just pressing buttons slow

[untold vault]

Its like flat 23% dmg for warrior yet i hate the on use and cast time of it!

[wide needle]

standing still for 2 s casting is actual trash tier behavior

[dire hinge]

but also: huge burst window

[wide needle]

and the sim is probably baiting me a bit

because im running up to dudes im standing in a puddle etc

i even ran some donkey 30s-1min sims to try and convince myself to use it and they didnt do the trick

it was like 1.2% ahead there?

[dire hinge]

it's basically great for snapshotting super high numbers on big packs

or if a boss has a burst window, you play around it

[sudden owl]

post your #1 arms warrior wishlist change for 12.1

[dire hinge]

Sims dont really show burst windows or add spawns at specific timings, so take them with a grain of salt

[wide needle]

a 30s sim surely shows a burst window no

[dire hinge]

it would yeah, scaling with target count

[wide needle]

ya

[pulsar frost]

Gimme rage generation back on op

Is all I really want

[dire hinge]

less rage management, specially in Colossus execute

[reef prairie]

I think they should make this tier set a talent or just part of cs

[pulsar frost]

Exe using less then 40 rage would be sick

[wide needle]

so it was very marginally better on a 30s10t and a 1m10t

[reef prairie]

Also fix rage

[pulsar frost]

Make it so we dont lose 10% dps just cause no shaman

[dire hinge]

Execute already uses flexible rage it does 20-40 scaling its damage linearly with the rage you spend

[sudden owl]

mines 3 second bladestorm, after 100 pulls so far on mythic lura I would like a 3 second bladestorm please

[minor gust]

12.1 rage post will be made. We will save our rage

Surely forum post works a second time

[wind hatch]

1. fix rage
2. do something about bs cdr being completely rng

[pulsar frost]

Op rage gen being back at 20 or so = more exe

[wind hatch]

and im happy

[pulsar frost]

More exe= good fun happy times

[dire hinge]

seconded on the Bladestorm CDR being rng, it's pretty silly

[sudden owl]

wowhead posts have proven to fix things so far it should just be a wowhead post

[dire hinge]

you can see massive swings in performance that are entirely out of your control.

[pulsar frost]

Wasn't last season just exe with SD procs and you just get the cdr

[minor gust]

There's 3 bandaid fixed I'ma bring up. Either op rage gen always, buffing auto rage gen or making exe 20 rage cost always

[pulsar frost]

Not the 3 stacks stuff we have rn

Why not all 3

Give op rage back. Can increase rage gen as a whole

Execute can be 20-30 scaling

[minor gust]

Didn't say it had to be just one

[pulsar frost]

Can keep 40 if yoy really want but the idea of just 40 if you have 50 is kinda meh

[minor gust]

But all 3 of these options is enough of a bandaid to fix our issue

[young sage]

Wowhead still accurate on pure ST raid with how much you press execute in execute phase? Basically only when near rage cap or with SD proc

[sudden owl]

ok I was trying to explain arms to a friend rerolling to it the other day and where does it say how bladestorm gets reduced? Is it actually just the 5s from the hero talent and I've been imagining bigger reductions the entire tier

[pulsar frost]

Its the hero talent

Based on the stacks of bladestorm you have

At like 3 stacks it cdrs 5 secs or something

[dire hinge]

you execute quite often in Execute phase, it just looks low on the list

[remote talon]

it's stacks of Executioner, from Slayer's Strike procs

[sudden owl]

the hero talent just says 5 second flat reduction on every SD I think

[remote talon]

5 seconds per stack of Executioner

[sudden owl]

This is what I thought but I actually don't think it reads like that at all, but I am American so maybe I just didn't read it good

[dire hinge]

Think of the other items on the Execute phase list as "overrides", you actually press Execute quite often.
In a nutshell it's basically Heroic Strike > Overpower > Execute, unless you have Sudden Death, are about to rage cap, or 2x stacks of Executioners Precision

[sudden owl]

Felt like a psycho reading through the talents trying to explain "no really sometimes it takes of 15 seconds I swear'

[remote talon]

it's kind of unclear from the wording whether both parts are per stack of Executioner, but I'm pretty sure I've seen it take 15 seconds off, yeah

[minor gust]

Typical Blizz tooltip but that's how it works. It's 5sec per stack so 3 stacks = 15 sec

[sudden owl]

ok and it's stacks of the SD bladestorm buff?

[pulsar frost]

I dont think much of it. But generally more times you click sd exe it decreases the cd

At a faster rate

[minor gust]

BS CDR is essentially a 2 part combo. 1st part is the amount of executioner stacks you have which comes from slayer strikes procs. 2nd part is using SD procs which gives you the CDR depending how many stacks you have at the moment of cast.

[remote talon]

the "bladestorm hits extra times" buff is completely separate

the CDR has nothing to do with it

[young sage]

makes sense thank you

[sudden owl]

Ya ok so it's 5 seconds per executioner stack then when you cast the SD

[minor gust]

Correct

[young sage]

ok that makes more sense with the edit haha

[sudden owl]

I would love to know where it explains that in a tooltip lol

[young sage]

was wondering where hs was

ty ty

[dire hinge]

haha yeah sorry, it's on the list but forgot to mention it

the executioner's precison is the biggest one to watch for. It should be Mortal Strike -> (continue rotation until you're pressed Execute twice) -> Mortal Strike.

The rotation ends up being Heroic Strike > MS (with 2EP) > Sudden Death > Overpower > Execute. The two in the list are procs that aren't always up, so it's basically MS (with 2EP) > Overpower > Execute, then you react to procs as you get them.

[remote talon]

bottom node of slayer tree: "Using Sudden Death causes you to both reduce the cooldown of Bladestorm by 5 sec and apply 1 stack of Overwhelmed to your primary target per stack of Executioner you have."

[minor gust]

Read it all together. 5 sec and apply overwhelm per stack is all one line. It's not 5 sec stop. Then overwhelmed per stackd

[dire hinge]

it's very RNG, i really dislike it

sometimes you get 30sec bladestorm, most of the time it's 45sec-1min

[minor gust]

If it's still confusing then blame blizzard. Blizzard tooltips have never been known for being clear and easy to understand

[dire hinge]

they love ambiguity

[minor gust]

Yeah it makes it very frustrating for raiding.i hope they do some tweaks to it as that's really slayer only main issue

[dire hinge]

even our tier set confuses people

[young sage]

awesome thank you!

[minor gust]

How do you hit 3 targets with MS

[dire hinge]

exactly, but people still get confused because of the ambiguous wording.

[thick kelp]

One of the last specs who has even 1 RNG CDR or active gameplay CDR component let alone 2 of those

Most other specs got converted to flat CDR nodes instead

Imagine if we just had AM give flat 45 to ava

[dire hinge]

Damaging a target affected by Colossus Smash with Mortal Strike or Cleave that hits 3 or more targets extends Colossus Smash's effect on them by 1.0 sec.

If you used Plain Language on this it'd be something like:

Mortal Strike and Cleave extend the duration of Colossus Smash by 1.0 seconds. Cleave must hit at least 3 targets for this effect.

word are hard though

[minor gust]

Doesn't help that it's 2 different areas or RNG too. How many SS procs you get and how many SD procs you get

[sudden owl]

it could be worse we could be getting the copilot ritual site renown descriptions

[dire hinge]

my brain got tied in a knot reading that string of nouns 😂

[sudden owl]

The first thing you need to know about bladestorm is that when you spin really fast you do the more damage.

[dire hinge]

execute phase increasing our rage spend for AM, but having no real impact on SD RNG makes me so sad

[meager thunder]

Bladestorm cdr being tied to 2 different procs is against a lot of their design goals they had with other classes' cds
I dont understand how it went under the radar

[thick kelp]

2?

only 1

[dire hinge]

yeah, i just wish the Unrelenting Onslaught was changed to "Bladestorm is now affected by Anger Management, if talented"

[thick kelp]

me when im trying to parse r1 HC dragons but @minor gust got 2 bladestorms within 30s

and i got my 2nd BS at 1:05

[dire hinge]

Bozo earned it

definitely not RNG, that's just a skill issue

[thick kelp]

6 SD's within his first CS window btw

I got 0

[dire hinge]

Ion told me it's because Bozo was pure of heart that pull

[meager thunder]

Slayers Strike for stacks of Executioner and SD to proc it

[thick kelp]

ah well ig

like that

[minor gust]

Something something Khazix getting 2 BS in one CS window

Holy moly

[dim basalt]

I didnt have raid buff for all of Beloren prog

gg

[thick kelp]

gg

[dire hinge]

one of our fury warriors was in Dstance the whole night last week

[minor gust]

Don't worry I'm not gonna have skyfury for belo prog

2nd egg gonna hurt my soul if I get unlucky

[meager thunder]

Aw hell nawww

[sudden owl]

That sucks

[thick kelp]

I love watching my beloren egg dam bounce between 150k - 250k depending on my SD's

lmao

[sudden owl]

help is the only fight I really felt the rng on for prog because you could get two bladestorms in one egg phase and that was crazy

[thick kelp]

Best pull so far on egg burn is 255k dps

[sudden owl]

Belo*

[thick kelp]

worst one is 134k

[meager thunder]

That kind of variance is not OK

[minor gust]

Khazix topped belo with slayer M+ build thoughts? Do I pull it out for prog and pad on birds

[sudden owl]

that would have been trolling in my raid but probably depends on if you hold damage ever or you have padders

[thick kelp]

Bro hes been

going pad pad pad build

[dire hinge]

logs love pad

[thick kelp]

meanwhile my egg dam swings

[sacred zodiac]

how do you parse alleria

[minor gust]

xD

[sacred zodiac]

do you just pad as much as possible

[sudden owl]

P1 damage

[sacred zodiac]

ok im keeping that as a 21 then

[thick kelp]

go hit the 2 targets

[minor gust]

I'ma keep playing TE build for belo. Helps a lot with no shaman

[thick kelp]

in the last phase

instead of the boss

[minor gust]

TE build owns

[dim basalt]

Why are you playing without a sham anyway

[sudden owl]

some of us don't have perfect raid comps play

Okay

[minor gust]

Our DPS shaman quit and we cant fit our rsham in for belo cuz healer external bs

[sudden owl]

Some of us have a rogue doing a seed on mythic lura

[rigid shell]

Hey I'm new to warrior but curious why we're not using Wrecking Throw instead of Slam when it does like double dmg?

[sacred zodiac]

you should

its too irrelevant of a dps increase to add to a guide though

[rigid shell]

Aight it's just mentioned as "ranged filler"

aight

fair enough

[remote talon]

slam crits do trigger deep wounds too, though wrecking is still presumably still slightly ahead

tactician as well

[rigid shell]

Thanks for the answers

[plain ember]

hey, is gaze our bis trinket? cuz i got the voracious trinket at 298 (myth voidcared) and have crucible at 263, gaze is simming rly low for me

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/evdDxfEsFSbJiNFWzxmJ5T

sim link in case in can offer some more info

[thick kelp]

it gets better eventually

your gear just sucks donkey dick atm

[plain ember]

how so?

im 283

[pulsar frost]

Gaze goos

Get the gays

[thick kelp]

bad ring bad shoes bad wrists bad belt

[sacred zodiac]

like half your gear has versatility Hoooly

[plain ember]

2nd ring is bad, wrists and waist not the best either, other than that its good

[sacred zodiac]

you can most definitely cata your belt for a dps increase

[thick kelp]

cata belt + boost

craft wrists

at hc ilvl

get mystic weapon

and suddenly gaze gains +.5% sim dps

[sacred zodiac]

but ye you're ~7 ilvls behind with bad itemization

[pulsar frost]

Probably more as well

[thick kelp]

my slarms key build sims more than this

smh

[sacred zodiac]

when will you start simming 7 digits

[pulsar frost]

True

[frank rapids]

on mythic, can you do imp then dragons? or do you have to do vor/saladhaar as well

[sacred zodiac]

dragons get a damage buff per side boss alive iirc? so its probably killable just not by your average guild

[plain ember]

dam,n

it did increase, all i did was cata the belt

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6P32oKHKr8FecVi673ivxf

[thick kelp]

shoker

now imagine

u bonus roll pit of saron

for neck + weapon + ring + belt

craft haste crit wrist

[wind hatch]

get rid of that vers ring asap

[nova marsh]

Guys is op in st that bad?

[pulsar frost]

But op good

[nova marsh]

Was it bad pre buffs after .5 launch?

[pulsar frost]

I mean st was bad in general pre buffs

[nova marsh]

Yeah

[wind hatch]

I think op has been buffed by like 40% cumulatively since launch lol

[nova marsh]

....oh

[wind hatch]

but so has everything else

[pulsar frost]

Ms buff when

[wind hatch]

12.1 if we're lucky

[pulsar frost]

Nah I want rage to be fix. Gimme op rage in .1

[wind hatch]

how about both?

:)

[pulsar frost]

Yes but blizzard wont do that

[wind hatch]

true

[pulsar frost]

If i had to pick i want rage gen on op again motr then ms buffs

[hasty pumice]

guys

@latent moss

how would you feel

if your guild assigned you like this

what am I

seeing

[deft bluff]

anyone got a slayer build for the dragons?

[thick kelp]

way to make sure you never kill the boss

what the fuck is ret dk

[latent moss]

bro

what is this

paladins?

[nova marsh]

What the fuck

[lone jay]

@hasty pumice it is evil but I also progged the same. had x2 ret in g1

[nova marsh]

Wait

[sudden owl]

U have way too many melee but it's okay the likelihood that tanks are powerful enough to keep the bosses together as much as possible so that you can parse is already slim

[hasty pumice]

yes

[nova marsh]

Aren't u out of melee range

[hasty pumice]

its not about the parse

[hasty pumice]

yes

the uptime OP spec

gets a no uptime spot

?

over a

surv hunter

thats THE arms fight

[ionic mica]

at that point id just whisper ebed the dk directly to ask to swap

[thick kelp]

bigger crime with the ret and DK

in that melee grp

[ionic mica]

assuming they are uh idk if they have realised frost exists yet

[hasty pumice]

vaya is heal

they are uh

[thick kelp]

even

worse

XD

[ionic mica]

yeah for sure just ask them

people hate changing assignments for some reason but the individuals doing them usually dont mind

hes probably walking around with his thumb in his ass anyway

[stable fiber]

if the boss is in the middle like that you can just stand on the rogues

[hasty pumice]

its not

[stable fiber]

oh so

[hasty pumice]

my soak always moves out of melee range

[stable fiber]

its cucking the rogues and you

[hasty pumice]

yes

[stable fiber]

why is ur hunter surv lmao

[hasty pumice]

dont ask me

I respect people who wanna play their spec but

I swap to whats best for the fight as warrior

I wanna further the raid

[stable fiber]

mm literally op as fuck on that fight still

and ranged

@hasty pumice oh are u 5 healing

[hasty pumice]

yes

[stable fiber]

that is a mw and a hpal in the melee soak

lmfao

jeez

[hasty pumice]

oh no

thats double tank

in the first soak

[stable fiber]

oh its bm

ic

[hasty pumice]

ye

[stable fiber]

ok thats fine

[sudden owl]

There's 1 survival hunter in the top 100 maybe he thinks he's him

[hasty pumice]

he is

[ionic mica]

i mean if they are A LOT better as surv than mm

then sure

but usually not so much

[stable fiber]

yeah ok that guy should be on mm

[thick kelp]

Nice belo build

[stable fiber]

thanks

[thick kelp]

im topping bird phase dam

and 5th in egg dam

[stable fiber]

dont take my r1

need it

i must beat the chinese

[thick kelp]

dw we are proccing the orb soak mechanic

[slender sonnet]

arms gameplay (real)

[thick kelp]

??

[slender sonnet]

idk man

that aint me

[soft venture]

in the middle of +18s, and is it me or is slayer still a lil sluggish.. I feel like I still cant keep up with my Colossus, and with bad rng it just isnt always there even on ST. Any suggestions?

[stable fiber]

oh wow im the only guy with cleave/fob/collat/crushing combo

lmfao

nobody else tried that?

[thick kelp]

bro ur with TE

[stable fiber]

wait i have TE

[slender sonnet]

see I only have 1 sword

[stable fiber]

no i dont

what

[hasty pumice]

why do the CDs overlap so badly in the fight

is it better to always send or slightly delay

on palas?

[stable fiber]

i always send

[stable fiber]

i dont have TE

also i beat the r1 boss dps guy on egg dps with my build

?

[thick kelp]

hoooly

[sudden owl]

with ur procs* I saw the 33 sudden deaths the other day

[stable fiber]

you lose like 0 boss dps% for infinite funnel/cleave

that was not crazy procs on beloren

lmfao

[sudden owl]

The second place guy had 26 I wanna say but I did not look further than that

[thick kelp]

im blind IG

i was

oh boy

time to play CC

[brave vector]

do i only demolish during c smash?

1 part of the guide says with 10 stacks of colossal might, 1 part says during c smash.

[mint patio]

I think a lot of people send it if CS is 10+ seconds out and you already have 10 stacks.

[nova marsh]

This

[pulsar frost]

Ideally during cs. If cs is 10 or longer send it

But almost always send on 10 stacks

[brave vector]

copy that

[nova marsh]

Actually question

[thick kelp]

in ST you perma hold for CS

:)

[nova marsh]

Oh

[pulsar frost]

I mean thats kinda given imo

[nova marsh]

I was gonna ask if during cs if you send demo at a lower stack count

Or just carry it over

Till u have 10 and next cs

[pulsar frost]

I always send at 10 stacks

[brave vector]

why do you always hold for c smash in ST?

[thick kelp]

cuz you do

more dam

[rose matrix]

Also doesn't desync as bad

[wind hatch]

demolish doesnt have as much cdr in st as it does in aoe

[brave vector]

ahh right

oh cause you need 10 stacks before CDR starts triggering. i see, and no cleave in ST for ez stacks, got it chief

[rose matrix]

You also don't get double stacks from MS with SS

[minor gust]

We stop dps on boss unfortunately so not worth playing.

[rose matrix]

I really like the landscape in 20 pugs

Basically Dev, Unholy, Aug, and Demo

Thats it

If you're not that, do your own key

[atomic mist]

are set gloves bis?

[prisma igloo]

What do we on sim for m+ gearing? 5 target patchwork?

[hybrid needle]

You want crit haste gloves or seat gloves

[atomic mist]

seat?

the dungeon?

[hybrid needle]

Yeah they have gloves that have a chance to proc dmg

[atomic mist]

voidclaw ones?

oh yeh i see them

cheers boss

[hybrid needle]

I do 5t1m and 3t3m
Some do 8 targets even

[late lantern]

I do 8t 1 min for pulls and 1 target 3 min for boss

for M+

[twin hazel]

anyone using Light Company Trinket

[soft venture]

its fine, but over course of a fight or key, i find the crit ones more consistent

[brave vector]

if i already sent a demolish because csmash wasnt going to be up, do i still send the csmash when its up then, or wait until next demo?

[upper magnet]

You send CS, demo will most likely come back up during it

[nova marsh]

Never hold cs

Unless its for downtime or damage amps.

[hollow wave]

Kinda dislike how fast demolish CD is, it doesn't look as a hard hitting ability as before

[cursive sun]

?

[fresh spire]

it didnt hit hard before, just you hit more often with it now so it's actually good

[latent moss]

bro

@minor gust

am i cooked

[wintry scroll]

on AA first boss do u hold cds until adds come or what ?

[minor gust]

its cursed for a reason

OP top dmg xD

[latent moss]

was only a 12 pit

but still

[north tinsel]

duality of a man

[wind hatch]

ye

[north tinsel]

maisara 17

[wintry scroll]

rajar more bro

and ejecutar more

[north tinsel]

hmmNod

[dire hinge]

hell yeah, Profound Wounds is a pretty cool name

[sleek quarry]

Brand new arms alt, what dungeon is best to reroll? Pit for the hammer?

[sacred zodiac]

pit has a lot of good stuff

jewelry thats hard to get elsewhere, good weppy

[wind hatch]

the only bad item from pit is the cape, everything else owns

[hybrid needle]

Why do abilitys in spanish Sound so funny in my head

[latent moss]

i got weppy

on my last roll

thoughts

[stable fiber]

pit

[sacred zodiac]

twinsies

same

[latent moss]

need crests

cloak and wrists are myth

[stable fiber]

7/8 pieces in pit are bis or super close to bis, the only brick item you can get in pit is the cloak

[halcyon valve]

👨‍🏫 profound wounds

[robust cypress]

are those plate pants?

[latent moss]

crafted

[tacit crystal]

chud craft

[tacit crystal]

my evoker has better gear than my warrior

[latent moss]

chud class

[latent moss]

goat craft

[latent moss]

chud gear

bayboy is 288 axaxaxa

[tacit crystal]

i have this stupid neck

also no second trinket

[sacred summit]

for slarms in execute phase, do we just want to make sure the target has one stack of master of warfare from heroic strike before we bladestorm?

[nova marsh]

No

[sacred summit]

we dont literally need to wait to bs until we heroic strike right before right?

[nova marsh]

Mow is Micky mouse shit

[sacred summit]

wdym

[nova marsh]

We dont hold anything for master of warfare specifically

Send bs in cs and I think with 2x ep

But dont quote me on that last part

[latent moss]

cs and 2x ep in exe ye

[nova marsh]

Danke

[granite swift]

what happened to pallys that have them blasting like this jesus

[sacred zodiac]

cs only if 2x ep got it

[nova marsh]

Instructions unclear

Only cs with max MoW stacks

[dire hinge]

Battle shout on cooldown?

[nova marsh]

Hroth

Hun

Battle shout dosent have a cooldown

[latent moss]

exactly

[naive steeple]

guys, is just me or war machine don't work?

its bug?

[sacred zodiac]

i watched war machine proc what do you think isnt working abt it

[naive steeple]

don't proc for me

in any content =/

especially in old content

[sacred zodiac]

doesnt it specifically say that the enemy needs to give xp

maybe not

it was proccing fine for me in raid gave me both the ms and rage just checked a log

do you have a vod or a log

[sacred summit]

heroic strike is above bs here and i think someone said in execute phase we prio hs over bs even in cs because of the armor reduction or smth

so is it if we have hs up we send it before bs, but if we dont have an hs proc we just bs?

master of warfare doesnt matter?

[sand totem]

I thought it was cause HS increases our MS damage. And most of bladestorms ST profile comes from unhinged

[stable fiber]

HS is armor penetration

which buffs both MS and BS damage

HS also buffs MS damage

so its like very big to use HS before cs

also unhinged can proc HS anyways

[latent moss]

apex is insane

for each stack u gain like infinite damage

[latent moss]

bro

[stable fiber]

armor pen owns

[stable fiber]

rate the gear

+3 stam on gloves holy chills

[latent moss]

how is this

rage

real

in full st

??????

i was below 40

perma

[stable fiber]

chud spec

[latent moss]

like man fuck this spec

[stable fiber]

wcyd

[latent moss]

genuinely fuck this spec

only a r82

and i had like

15s of downtime waiting for healers to see me on the screen

afte 95 pings

:)))))))

[latent moss]

big

shouldve played just warming up over broad strokes

wcyd

can we just go back to df arms

sitting at 130 rage perma

like this

genuinely made me crash out

its so bad man

[minor gust]

me when I have 6 seconds of reck for 100% rage gain on every CS cast

[latent moss]

W design gimme that

that + iftk

• current set

and arms owns

also

[latent moss]

starving outside of exe

👍

[minor gust]

Welcome to midnight arms all of your cooldown rage increases are gone so boss parrying your first auto punches you in the nuts more

when you somehow end first BS with under 50 rage

[hasty pumice]

[sacred summit]

u mean hs before bs right? but hs' buff is master of warfare right? usually mow has a high uptime so unless we have a hs proc we would just send bs right after cs in execute phase right

instead of waiting and fishing for hs before bs

[vast helm]

where is this from?

[stable fiber]

yeah i mistyped

HS BEFORE BS

[stable fiber]

the tbc armor kit

it doesnt really do much but i like opening my character page and seeing +3 stamina on gloves

it just looks nice

[vast helm]

very nice sir

[sacred summit]

do we need to fish for an hs right before bs

or can we just send bs after cs as long as we have MoW stacks in execute phase

[stable fiber]

its not a need

just do it if the scenario presents itself

you just send bs after cs unless you have heroic strike

[latent moss]

i put ms on cd before bs idk if its a loss

just feels nice idk

extends cs ig

[stable fiber]

i do that also

[latent moss]

its afree global

[minor gust]

Phil are you proud of me I havent gotten total aids yet from pugging

[nova marsh]

How are you sane

[minor gust]

by doing 1-2 keys every other day

[nova marsh]

Ahhhh

[minor gust]

maybe every 3 days if I just dont feel it

[nova marsh]

I should do that instead of letting keys consume me

[idle hare]

how do you track the buff for when slam turns into heroic strike?

in the advanced cooldown settings

[slow flame]

look at ur bar

slam becomes ornage and white

and glows

n shi

[idle hare]

love the warrior responsees

[wind hatch]

just putting slam on ur cdm is the easiest way

[tranquil swift]

Nice work man!

[spring vale]

playing arms has made me hate ranged players that stand far away

because then mobs jump on them for baited attacks and they're far as fuck and my fervor of battle cleave doesn't actually fervor of battle cause the mob moved

[sand totem]

I have begun to hate most players for similar reasons.
Standing far away? Fuck you.
Don't stack bosses close together? Fuck you.
Kill the adds that got pulled to the boss so I can funnel? Fuck you.

[spring vale]

like its on me for playing a class that is so peculiar about AoE

but pls make my job easier so the key can go faster

afaik there's no class that does more damage from being far away

so the marksmanship hunter has no excuse for not sniffing the trash pack's farts

get in there man

[nova marsh]

No legot6

That's the oy way

U can track slam in cdm ig

[hushed topaz]

Yeah just track slam in cdm, it turns into heroic strike

[idle hare]

Ya looks like the best way. Just didn't want to add another icon to my bar messes with the spacing i like

[snow flame]

it has been acquired

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-infinity-war-infinity-gauntlet-marvel-gif-20388034

[spring vale]

huge

[snow flame]

it had avoidance too

[spring vale]

the god roll

[tranquil swift]

this might sound like a stupid quiestion cause it probably is but in col, why not take bladestorm instead of ravanger

[spring vale]

bladestorm is like 4 seconds of being afk and col doesn't have any talents that boost bladestorm

but ravager does buff up cleave nicely, which col likes

[idle hare]

and cleave makes demo come up faster too right?

[spring vale]

yeah it also does big damage in aoe

the last bit is important

Ravager>Colossus Smash>cleavex3 big

[rare kite]

ravager itself might as well do no damage. lit's literally only there for the cleave buff

[spring vale]

oh i meant the cleaves do big damage in aoe

ravager is just there to juice them up even more

[full grotto]

yo wtf is the prio for m+ arms slayer like im watching critcake and he would like execute 5 times in a row

[vast helm]

ravager should be 1 min cooldown

[sharp flame]

does double socket beat out crit haste necks on arms?

on ur char*

[languid torrent]

yall have a bird taunt macro for belo?

[snow flame]

I'm not sure I'll have to check

[latent moss]

im 800% sure it doesnt

crit is insane for arms

[languid torrent]

this is why they pay you the big bucks

[sharp flame]

goated fury neck thop

[runic heath]

someone give me the quick n dirty for spellprio on slayer arms

[minor gust]

@stable fiber Did you pot 2nd egg?

[stable fiber]

No

[full grotto]

yall want to compare avoidance

[stark cape]

Is it just me or is Colossus absolute dog shit in like lower pug keys in Single Target? Im near 290iLvl Full BiS btw.

Wondering if I should just play Slayer

[tulip gust]

It’s not shit in low pug keys ST, it’s kinda just bad in ST in general. Need tank to play around you and pull mobs onto bosses for funnel for it to feel great

[sand totem]

One of the big issues with col especially is if you build for ST you lack really hard in Multi, and if you build for multi you lack really hard in ST. Cause its like 10 talent point difference lmao

[fringe leaf]

people literally dont give a fuck about that and those same people cannot be convinced that its even real they'll look at meters as law and flame

[nova marsh]

If u want st and are okay with less aoe

Yes

Play slayer

And if ur pugging i endorse slayer

[full grotto]

yea tank really needs to play around col arms

[nova ravine]

This. I’ve only regretted playing slayer in a pug ONCE. And I Apologized for not playing colo

[full grotto]

i mean who cares what you play in pugs at lower keys tho

you can probably be fine with whatever to 18+

[silent saddle]

if you're playing colossus and you're in an AOE pack in M+ and all you have to press are heroic strike or execute, and your cleave has one GCD to come off cooldown, what are you pressing?

[nova marsh]

Execute

[nova ravine]

If you have low rage, nothing. High rage execute

Never HS

[silent saddle]

okay thanks guys

[nova marsh]

Oh I assumed sd was present

Mb

[silent saddle]

yeah say it's not present

[proven delta]

do prismatics act different in head vs neck?

[nova ravine]

I didn’t good catch

[silent saddle]

it's just something I've noticed come up so often and I always wonder what to do

[nova marsh]

If its not you probably wait a global yeah

[silent saddle]

this rotation is a fun game of "what glowy thing do I press" every ~1s

[nova marsh]

Execute is kinda ass for colo

[silent saddle]

rgr that

[nova marsh]

Or just reapply rend

[silent saddle]

oh true that's another option

[nova ravine]

Was just thinking about that

I approve

[nova marsh]

True warrior brain moment

[silent saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/apes-together-strong-0p1sf-gif-20906166

[nova ravine]

Oh oh, if you run shockwave this is its moment

[nova marsh]

For the memes sure

Could be more valuable as a stop

[proven delta]

sim is telling me haste is better than str? for wep enchant im at 26% haste

[stable fiber]

thats normal yes

[nova ravine]

Don’t fight it, just accept

[proven delta]

im fighting the movement of my prismatic from neck to my head lmao

[proven delta]

ty

[stark cape]

Okay SLAYER FEELS WAY BETTER IN PUGS.

Top Boss DMG + Top AOE DMG ( not by much but top nonetheless )

[proven delta]

screenshot your damage breakdown

?

im curious

[dire hinge]

yeah that one is always silly, just ignore it

[dire hinge]

it should also be affected by AM so it syncs with CS (at least) but alas

[wind hatch]

same

i will never yield

[minor gust]

welcome to the correct side

[nova marsh]

The bias is showing bozo

[minor gust]

im sure the name gives it away

[nova marsh]

Tbh I hope slayer stays good next season

Id probably just play it over colo unless colo gets some actual st

[minor gust]

well see

[nova marsh]

Should be getting .1 ptr in like a month

[pulsar frost]

but you dont even play game

[rapid bronze]

what's our go-to setup for dungeon sims for colossus these days?

[nova marsh]

Give me s2 so I can

[tranquil swift]

does this look about right?

am i casting something to much/little?

[nova marsh]

give us a log and we can tell you

[tranquil swift]

gulp

ok

[nova marsh]

I don't even know the key my guy lol

Looks like Pit

[tranquil swift]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/N81Gwxhp943fLQMH?fight=7&type=damage-done

im learning slayer lol

i did die but

yeah

thats what i got lol

[nova marsh]

so

I can reccomend something to help with the death

You could've used Dstance and such and absoutlely should

That aside, you look pretty good honestly.

[tranquil swift]

yeah i do for sure

idk my overrals just seem low haha

idk

my gear seems fine

[pulsar frost]

press x to doubt, idek if ill play tbh

[nova marsh]

Honestly I wouldn't worry too much about overalls

Slayers overalls are a bit lower then colos in my experience, but I just use overalls to see if I'm grossly underperforming

[pulsar frost]

are you thho

[nova marsh]

The answer is usually yes

[pulsar frost]

How come. Judt fix it

[nova marsh]

Le skill issue

[pulsar frost]

Is ok im joining you on the done for season team

[nova marsh]

Based

also

...Question well I'm on wacraft logs

[pulsar frost]

I've done everything I wanted so

Also wows kinda a waste of tjme

[nova marsh]

How the fuck

I did not claim my rogue at all

Warr isn't claimed. None of my other characters are claimed

All I did was upload a log of a REALLY bad (and kinda toxic) seat run on her

[grand galleon]

Going to join my mates in a m+ comp as arms. Guardian, mw, Hunter, outlaw, arms. Is the lack of shaman going to ruin my dps? Going for top 1%. I'm seeing my sims lose about 13% dps single target as slayer without skyfury

[hybrid needle]

Depending on when and where u die it will screw your overall dps by quite a big margin

[nova marsh]

Yes no shaman is going to hurt you in the long run

[hybrid needle]

You can play top 1% with whatever u want really. Its the .1% that youll struggle with

[grand galleon]

Yeah not going to 0.1%, was disappointing to see such a loss without shaman. I'll justify my existence with battle shout 🙂

[nova marsh]

You could do it as fury, and I think slayer suffers less overall from no shaman

Slayer arms

[hybrid needle]

Is it a bm hunter ?

[grand galleon]

He is bm but has a gear set for surv too

[tranquil swift]

i must say im liking slayer ebtter than col

[nova marsh]

enjoy it well it lasts

[hybrid needle]

Well there you go. Your Main purpose in that comp is your prio damage. Youll need that

[tranquil swift]

why until it alts lol

lasts

[grand galleon]

I'm not familiar with hunter, do they lose a lot of prio dmg while cleaving?

[hybrid needle]

Not really much. Basically everything cleaves off of everything but they dont really gain much either

But i just hate hunters so im a bad source of advice on how to get rid of them

[gentle gyro]

Surely this is the day, last voidcore

[nova marsh]

GG?

[hybrid needle]

My rogue almost does tankdmg

[fiery inlet]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/h3u2qxDKJM1f3WmD8aTtZQ
does this check out? that npx rings sim lower than current ones? or did i do some random shit while simming?

[upper sparrow]

Cloak inc

[hybrid needle]

Droptimizer works with your current gear and doesnt take the setbonus into consideration iirc
You can try simming with topgear and add the rings manually - it is absolutely possible that they wont be an upgrade for you tho

[tranquil swift]

is slarms doing more dps than fury slayer?

in keys

[wind hatch]

yeah droptimizer just does one item at a time so it never equips both

[hybrid needle]

Not nessecarily but it has a better damage Profile

[gentle gyro]

Im gonna jump now

[hybrid needle]

Keklul

[unreal mountain]

Guys, anyone has a Tipp to Max out Aoe damage as slayer and collo ? I think i lose a Lot of Aoe due to Bad Position or something

[tranquil swift]

@hybrid needle SO COL IS THE GOD SPEC THEN HUH

sorry caps

[hybrid needle]

Col is better than slayer when you get funnel on bosses.
If you dont get funnel or bosses or have heavy ST keys like AA slayer will be Equal or even outperform, hence its prefered for pugs.
Your overall and priodmg will be better as col, generally speaking.
THIS IS NOT ADVICE ON WHAT TO PLAY. BOTH ARE VIABLE AND COMPLETELY FINE.

[desert briar]

Does your party Interrupt display reliably work?

[fiery inlet]

it is .3 increase actually thanks for the tip

didnt know droptimizer doesnt include set

[rare kite]

it would if you had one of the rings equipped already

[gentle gyro]

yes

[desert briar]

How is it called?

[nova marsh]

yeah

I would too

I rolled cloak too

[desert briar]

Ty

[vast helm]

work fine?

[gentle gyro]

How does it feel?

I lowkey don't wanna play anymore till next week

[nova marsh]

actually please fucking shoot me for rolling that

[gentle gyro]

Can't craft my cloak because of no weapon

[thorn void]

wdym? because of crests or what?

[gentle gyro]

You can have two embellishments

I have a crafted weapon and bracers

[thorn void]

ah yeah alr i gotchu

Unfortunate

[gentle gyro]

Next up max unlucko skyreach

[thorn void]

keep us updated

[frail helm]

I just got absolutely trounced in a 19 AA vs a ret and BM as slarms

idk wtf I was doing, I only had 150k overall to their 195 each

[hybrid needle]

Thats normal ngl.
The first pull easily Puts them like 40m ahead of you in dmg which heavily reflects on overall

[frail helm]

even in bosses I 'kept up' but by no means beat them by any significant margin

yeah that first pull is just unadulterated cringe

[midnight mural]

In AA first pull you can go ahead and subtract all the damage to the small shitter lashers - they are the most irrelevant damage in the universe :p focus on dmg on the big vile lashers.

did you smash bird tho? and bossdmg on first boss? 🙂

[hybrid needle]

That first pull is the reason your overall is so bad compared to them. If tank moves in the other Direction just once youll end up with about 400k if youre lucky, they do double that and is majority of their overall

Dont feel bad about it

[midnight mural]

The biggest part of that pull is just to make sure your tank has a marker on him, and just perma stack on top of him - or your damage goes out the window.

[frail helm]

yeah that first pull I had about 400

they had like 600-800

then I scuffed my pad on the first boss too lmao

[hybrid needle]

Now look at the pure damage number difference, not the dps itself

As i said its easily 40m they have on you just from pull 1. Catching that up is impossible

[frail helm]

yeah I expect to lose overall because of that pull, was just kind of wild how much by lmao

I definitely made other mistakes as well, coz the gap never really tightened

[hybrid needle]

Man, ive played with uhdks that ended the pull on 1.2m and had 220k overall just due to that.
It happens

Its not your job to pad like a madman its your job to do prio dmg

[frail helm]

yea I don't think the key was logged unfort

ah well

ty for the info

[rare kite]

next time you can reset meter after first pull to see what the damage after first pull is like

[scenic umbra]

Thank god it wasnt a feral! With ferals in aa is even worse

[dusky galleon]

slayer or colossus for nexus?

[soft dew]

Depends on the comp, Slayer is pretty good for the damage amp boss

[slow saddle]

slayer

[fiery inlet]

in pugs i only go col for pit tbh

[errant jungle]

is there a way to track our apex prog in cdm without having slam shown?

[slow saddle]

this

[slow saddle]

no

u will LIKE blizzards UI

[errant jungle]

hell

[slow saddle]

and u will not miss old Weakauras

that could just make it pop when u needed it

u will LOVE having a big SLAM right next to ya char

such is life

[soft peak]

are this good stats? or i need more haste

[austere solar]

Hi everyone, what do you think about this idea on slayer spec improvement. I'm wondering if reap the storm which gives a lot of randomness to the spec could be changed. I'm thinking of a change like that. "When Cleave hits 3 or more targets you have a 20% chance to gain a free whirlwind with 200% bonus Physical damage and applying Overwhelmed. Deals reduced damage beyond 8 targets." It could synergise with collateral damage, and could also synergise with slayer's dominance and give back some use of the long forgotten whirlwind button.

[fresh spire]

Can't ww as cleave replaces it

The best thing they could do is just buff the proc rate and lower damage for consistency

[austere solar]

In my proposal they'll have to separate cleave from ww of course.

[fresh spire]

Yeh no. More keybinds on an already heavy keybind class ain't it.

[halcyon valve]

Yeah having both cleave and ww would suck tbh

[fresh spire]

I'd rather reap was 35/50/100% and damage is tuned accordingly. Considering reap was essentially 100% on 5+ targets before when it was per target

The better situation is slayer strikes is just removed and reap covers both slayer strikes and aoe from any button pressed

[austere solar]

Ok I agree with you on the increase proc rate lower damage.

[austere solar]

Agree with that too

[frail helm]

Does this even really change anything? It's 20% currently to proc reap, your suggestion just gives a 20% chance to buff whirlwind. What's the meaningful difference there

[austere solar]

Two procs for the same spec..

[austere solar]

Yeah right could be more of a stacking buff may be.

[fresh spire]

Prob is blizzard already hates having too many procs/moving parts to a spec. It's part the reason mortal strike was removed from reap as trying to tune the spec when reap was like it was/slayer strikes also being another factor it made it more hard to control the specs damage.

They shot ms and considerably buffed reap. Reap hits insanely hard but just lacks a solid proc rate.

Functionally both are fine. But it would be much cleaner and less rng on pulls if reap was just tuned down like 10% and were given that back as proc rate.

You do get moments in Keys where you spend sudden death into more proc and your aoe is nuts as you just send 3/4 reaps back to back. Then other pulls you barely get any sudden deaths.
Think executioner for cdr for bladestorm is also a bit shit rather that was just always a flat amount and not subject to the amount of stacks you have.

[austere solar]

Yep the most annoying part is too much rng. You can shine on some pull and be crappy on the next.

[uncut lagoon]

Hey guys, I'm new to arms and currently following the links in dps-faq, I noticed WoWhead says slayer is best is for multitarget in raid, yet all the top parses and also comments here state colossus is
can I savely assumed the guide is outdated/wrong on this part?

[austere solar]

On the cdr i agree once again, we already have a consistent cdr with anger management

They could easily make slayer extend its effect to bladestorm with a small change on unrelenting onslaught.

Decoupling it from sudden death proc rng.

[austere solar]

You have very few raid fight with heavy aoe damage requirement except for paladins fight. So in most raid situation slayer is indeed better than colossus.

[uncut lagoon]

Would you say slayer is better on dragons as well? I am assigned to take every other gloom as well

[austere solar]

For dragons I go fury thane 🤣

[uncut lagoon]

Interesting, hope I can get a crafted 2nd weapon before raid tonight

Less than 24 hours played on the character 😅

And thank you for your time!

[lone yarrow]

on mythic dragons colossus is superior due to the fight being perma 2-target cleave, on normal/hc full st slayer with slight pivot to ss is alright

just take 2 nodes for ss on cs and 25% ss dam and you're good

[late lantern]

How can i get a socket on my crafted wrist?

[uncut lagoon]

vault currency

[late lantern]

Ahhh

Thanks

[uncut lagoon]

thanks, I'll have a look around and see what works best

mid season rerolls are a pain

[balmy kindle]

For M saladbar is it worth going for more aoe on slayer to kill orbs?

[fiery inlet]

are u struggling with killing small orbs?

[balmy kindle]

Not me but my group is a maybe

[fiery inlet]

yeah i meant more is ur raid struggling with small orbs

[balmy kindle]

A little I think, but I feel saladbar is a st fight

[fiery inlet]

i never bothered going on smallies

but if ur guild struggles then sure