even on an 18
#arms
wintry scroll
radiant dawn
yeah if ww has its cooldowns up shit is gonna explode
torn rivet
hey lads, anyone willing to help me? I'm not entirely sure where am I doing wrong as Arms on midnight falls, but I feel like I am doing smth wrong and I cannot tell what exactly
languid torrent
slayer kinda fucks in AA
vivid current
Arms gang is so up rn
languid torrent
you will have to pull colo out of my cold dead hands before i swap to slayer in pit
vivid current
you will have to pull colo out of my cold dead hands before i swap to slayer in ...
💯💯
minor gust
Yes if you get a circle in that area just back up and charge
languid torrent
Yes if you get a circle in that area just back up and charge
🔥
languid torrent
💯💯
if you have a monk, you can para the necro right before the first boss and all the lil shit adds that never die will come to the boss and you have 5 target cleave
it f u c k s
vivid current
if you have a monk, you can para the necro right before the first boss and all t...
Yessir shit feels incredible
hybrid needle
you will have to pull colo out of my cold dead hands before i swap to slayer in ...
Sounds impossible, colo cant die
finite cradle
Yo guys I noticed that the wowhead guide for Warrior doesn't have a Slayer M+ build, just has Slayer raid and Colossus M+. I want to start with Slayer in M+ too though, where's the best place to find the best talents for it if not wowhead guide?
flat willow
there is one
tranquil swift
col arms in keys are so fucking crazy. obvi the st is eh. i plan on playing col in all but AA and sky reach. for slayer, is it pretty much cds, bladestorm, then cleave and exe? with MS OP etc as fillers?
finite cradle
there is one
d'oh!! I saw the talent builds on the front page of the guide and assumed that was it. but if you go to the builds specific page it has more. thx brudda
flat willow
op is above ms
rend is also above ms
(even if rend is already on targets)
in aoe, I mean
hybrid needle
echo ibex
is wowhead fine to go for build for slarm?
hybrid needle
Yes
thick kelp
@latent moss you should rewrite this
thick kelp
what the
thick kelp
doable
stable fiber
@tacit crystal
thick kelp
triple slarms surely?
stable fiber
im slarms
thick kelp
one phase the dmg amp guy
hybrid needle
Tell him to go arms
tacit crystal
😄
hybrid needle
i just said something about comparing pps in the key and the mod blocked my message
thick kelp
echo ibex
what dungeons is worth swapping powerful momentun with mass execution
stable fiber
Sir why no damage
he is in raid talents...
hybrid needle
bruv
granite stone
whats the most common mistakes for low dps in raids?
tacit crystal
i was asking the robot
tacit crystal
whats the most common mistakes for low dps in raids?
high downtime and low casts per minute
granite stone
high downtime and low casts per minute
Looking at my logs its looks like im only getting off half of my MS and OP - yet feels like im constatly pressing them
i wasted 26% of my rage, so presumably im doing some kind of feast and famin and not poolying correctly to get MS off?
granite stone
looks like thats a problem as well, i cast it 4 times...
silk spade
holy
stable fiber
high downtime and low casts per minute
this is not looking good
stable fiber
we win this time
stable fiber
yeah that boss was doomed
thorn void
i wasted 26% of my rage, so presumably im doing some kind of feast and famin and...
Where or how did you see this?
i don't think i understand how i'm able to tell that i am wasting rage on logs
granite stone
Where or how did you see this?
Wowanyliser
steep walrus
This is insane
tranquil swift
At what point do you hold demolish for CS? 10 sec or less?
toxic osprey
193K overall on a +13 Trium with an Aug, i was happy then i saw on the logs, 149K overall 
Still my best overall so its ok
nova marsh
I hate aug in general
wind hatch
vast drum
How big of a dmg loss is not having a shaman in keys?
slow flame
Does the rotation change with this one compared to frozen bozo build
stable fiber
@latent moss
cedar cairn
All the builds on wowhead need skyfury kinda. This one dosen't really.
How does it feel for everyone?
nova marsh
<@692035495718551564>
Tf u doin
stable fiber
dont worry about it
rare kite
<@692035495718551564>
interesting, buff is so short duration tho
stable fiber
there is a haste cap in game anyways
rare kite
yeah
stable fiber
like someone got the number to show like 2.6 billion
or whatever that number is
261 mil
rotund lark
Skyreach colosus or slayer?
rare kite
slayer
hybrid needle
always slayer
rotund lark
thank you bro
uneven minnow
when is NXP ring set better than double crit haste? in ST or AoE?
rose matrix
I think for Slarms it's just better in general
But it is stronge for ST worse for aoe
uneven minnow
gtcha
rose matrix
More crit matters for Colossus so you lose more to take the set vs playing slayer
toxic osprey
Hate the dungeon because of the first pull when i'm useless watching range + others classes just destroy the pack (even tank)
clever wave
I’ve been going arms for AA and fury for everything else idk what it is about that key but I feel like Slarms makes it too easy with all the worms and the first pull
But that first pull makes me sad
elder zodiac
is anyone having an issue especially at a M+ start where stuff does not load in? as in like, circles to avoid and such
shadow osprey
is anyone having an issue especially at a M+ start where stuff does not load in?...
I would check to make sure that you dont have your graphics setup so that you have different visual settings turned on for raids, dungeons, and battlegrounds vs open world.
sacred summit
is there a difference between using 2-3 cleaves and putting them on cd and bladestorming after or bladestorming immediately after cs?
does it change at all case by case
brisk hamlet
Just starting to learn arms for the first time, what's the better training wheels hero talent, and what should I look to transition into as I get more comfortable with playing Arms?
stable mountain
Just starting to learn arms for the first time, what's the better training wheel...
Slayer arms is easy to get use too imo
brisk hamlet
I'll take it as gospel, I'm a slayer main now. Watch out pugs. I'm omw to ruin your day
stable mountain
transitioning is learning both ig but both specs good overall slayer has more st for things like AA , Skyreach
Slayer is overall easier to pull off in pugs i feel too
brisk hamlet
Are there any reliable mainstay content creators I should be on the lookout for, for learning purposes? Or is it a pick your poison kind of deal
stable mountain
Bizentein, critcake, pilav , noxiv atm seems to be playing slayer arms
bizentein can be very helpful 
brisk hamlet
I really appreciate the answers! Thanks!
sacred summit
Bizentein, critcake, pilav , noxiv atm seems to be playing slayer arms
ive noticed critcake is playing more slayer than arms in his keys
its that just me? do u know why
sacred summit
slayer arms
stable mountain
maybe his team needs more st boss or he enjoys it more
sacred summit
maybe its just a coincidence that hes playing slarms when i see his vids/streams idk
stable mountain
slarms is very fun so maybe he is just having fun with it I think both specs are viable
sacred summit
👍
sacred summit
ye i play both/idm both. was curious if slarms st was needed in keys over 20 since there are a decent number of bosses where u cant bring ads into boss
ye
stable mountain
spring vale
is there a difference between using 2-3 cleaves and putting them on cd and blade...
Im curious about this as well
sacred summit
Im curious about this as well
last time i asked about this i was told that according to the api there is no difference
spring vale
Ahh
sacred summit
i guess ud use cleaves first while adds are being gathered if tank is still pulling/chain pulling then hit a fatty bs? but then again, if tank is pulling a lot more ud probably wanna just hold cs if possible
spring vale
Maybe the cleaves first are better to get the duration extension on Csmash and then rip the bladestorm at the end
stable mountain
i swap between both and it seems to be the same
sacred summit
cleave and bs are both major sources of damage so sending cleave so we can get another one in after bs makes sense to me but getting bs on cd asap also makes sense
altho since bs cd is irregular and luck based maybe using cleaves first doesnt matter and may be better for getting 1 more cleave in?
i see ppl doing both in logs
ik there are some rotational things in the wowhead guide that is redacted for simplicity's sake and is a relatively minor difference
stable mountain
yea its just whatever my brain tells me is what i do
me do big spin or cleave hmm
sacred summit
Maybe the cleaves first are better to get the duration extension on Csmash and t...
yea i guess thatd net u 1 more second
elder zodiac
I would check to make sure that you dont have your graphics setup so that you ha...
no they're the same
it's weird, nothing displays, then all of a sudden they all loads at once
but it's like the first 10ish seconds of the pull
pearl shore
why do I have a damage penalty? 😄
wraith lichen
why do I have a damage penalty? 😄
Defensive stance?
tranquil swift
Is slarms dps in high keys equivalent or close to Col?
sacred zodiac
Col should be higher always but they just have a different damage pattern
tacit crystal
also where they do damage is different
tranquil swift
I noticed all the top guys seem to play it so just wasn’t sure
sacred zodiac
also where they do damage is different
Gio
tranquil swift
@sacred zodiac how does slarms compare to fury specs? Has the lead on em?
pearl shore
I guess slayer should be better in comps that lack a bit of ST damage no? When you cant pull funnel targets into boss fights slayer might just be the better choice no?
tacit crystal
it also lets others go for more aoe
sacred zodiac
that guy does not do keys
i dont do keys but its not like minigame is genuinely intellectual content
play slarms if you need boss damage and col if your team can build around your genuinely good aoe damage but sub par st damage
slarms probably best if you're just pugging and cant trust your teammates
and any arms spec > any fury spec
sacred summit
do u guys always bs immediately after cs
tacit crystal
yes
sacred summit
or do u sometimes send cleaves
sacred summit
cuz technically if u spam the free cleaves right after cs then bs, by the end of bs, cleave will come off cd and technically u get 1 more cleave and +1s to cs
tacit crystal
i dont do keys but its not like minigame is genuinely intellectual content
hey man keys are hard for me 🙁
tacit crystal
cuz technically if u spam the free cleaves right after cs then bs, by the end of...
this was the case before the last set of slayer buffs
sacred summit
i did have someone tell me a few weeks ago that according to the api bs right after cs and cleave before bs was the same
sacred summit
this was the case before the last set of slayer buffs
ohhhhh ok
what changed to make it like that?
sacred zodiac
learn how to position perfectly in raid
nova marsh
Just raid?
sacred zodiac
i only care about the real content
tranquil swift
@sacred zodiac thanks for that info spongie! Honestly with how bad Col st is, I bet the st slayer brings almost makes up for the less aoe. Rotation didn’t seem bad. I’ll play around with it tonight!
sacred zodiac
honestly if you care more about timing keys than being at the top of the dps meter you should just play slayer until youre in like 20s lol
rose matrix
honestly
sacred zodiac
In 20s back to col?
this isnt a thing that you can decide with a checklist, you should be considering your level of skill with either talent setup and what you think your key needs
rose matrix
You can stay slarms in 20-21
sacred zodiac
if you want to turn brain off you just play whatever you want up till 20s and then you play slayer for AA and npx? iirc idk and col for everything else
rose matrix
Yea MT you can probably get away with either but Colossus is troll on the last boss
Spire you could go Slayer too
Or just swap
tranquil swift
I’m just lazy and don’t like mastering 2 specs, so would rather pick one and go 😂
rose matrix
As long as you can survive I think Slayers is playable
silent parcel
is it now slayer for arms ?!?!
toxic osprey
Do the flask count for the recklessness pot ? i've got crit > haste but when i pot haste it's haste > crit
Does that mean the recklessness pot will give me haste instead of crit ?
tired nova
Do the flask count for the recklessness pot ? i've got crit > haste but when i p...
they do count yeah
pretty easy to test for you as well
hybrid needle
you probably just had a haste procc which happen frequently, thats why most people dont like it
toxic osprey
Yeah, don't wanted to waste gold but yeah, should've do it myself, i'm dumb
toxic osprey
you probably just had a haste procc which happen frequently, thats why most peop...
Well, i sim better with haste pot and on wowhead tehy say to play reck with crit > all so i don't really know what i need to do
hybrid needle
Well, im not really familiar with reck pot, ngl. I just use lights potential and zugzug. Easy way out
toxic osprey
Or i stay like that but just wait the heart passif proc so it's crit
And i think the trinket proc in like 1-2 sec on the beginning of the fight ?
toxic osprey
Well, im not really familiar with reck pot, ngl. I just use lights potential and...
Can be easier yup
icy mulch
What does this add on do?
hybrid needle
ive got no idea
appearantly its supposed to be like blizzard one buutton manager helper but as addon
icy mulch
5.5 mil ppl, that seems strange. Makes me expect a virus.
night pumice
Is there any decent myth track trinkets that I could roll on from m+ if I dont raid or i really should try to raid to get those two?
toxic osprey
Is there any decent myth track trinkets that I could roll on from m+ if I dont r...
Prism and heart (can box but horrible trinket to use)
icy mulch
Heart of Winds - Windrunner Spire - passive, haste proc trinket
Solarflare Prism - Skyreach -passive, crit proc
hybrid needle
I really, really recommend pugging dreamrift. Its pretty simple
night pumice
Ye I was thinking pugging dreamrift and then maybe prism I hate puzzlebox tbh
icy mulch
Puzzlebox is meh for arms. Kinda needed for Fury, but ass to use for both.
rose matrix
Why do players with the best buffs in the game seem to never rebuff if someone dies
They need to add a raid buff tracker to the base game
hybrid needle
idk man. When i randomly die i also have to yell at the shaman to rebuff me
calm hollow
nexus 2nd boss got executed on 10, lmao
hybrid needle
holy mother of exeqt
rose matrix
Dude I love when Blizzard had that entire thing last xpac about making visuals easier to see
Then just said fuck that this time around
calm hollow
@minor gust did i press enough exe there?
lean geode
Then just said fuck that this time around
Possible that different teams internally worked on midnight bosses and dungeons
I'd expect their UI/UX design folks would've chimed in but who knows
nova marsh
Confusion
spring vale
70-80 isnt too bad, just do the TWW recap or TWW delves + their quest
it goes by quick
80-90 though is kinda ass, I do every delve + its quest and then the eversong woods part of the campaign + finish off with either voidstorm or zulaman, or Timewalking dungeons if they're around
hybrid needle
TWs are around, but 3 dungeons per level is kinda... yikes
nova marsh
I usually just do side quests + delves
toxic osprey
And you can exp with profession when you do first recipe
nova marsh
I mean ye
twin hazel
anyone done this:
nova marsh
follow the arrow can work
twin hazel
hybrid needle
arent myth crests super easy on alts anyways
stable fiber
yeah id argue the voidcores are harder on alts maybe if your gonna do it that way
hybrid needle
yeah id argue the voidcores are harder on alts maybe if your gonna do it that wa...
Your dmg gave me crippling depression
short crescent
arent myth crests super easy on alts anyways
Once you hit myth of the dawn yeah, but even then its a bit of a slog to get the crests
hybrid needle
Meh, its not too bad
nova marsh
ngl
it was so much worse when valorstones existed sometimes
Either you had infinite valor stones for the whole season or you didn't
languid torrent
yea valorstones were horrible. valor s1 of DF was also so bad
i remember spamming +2 CoS keys in order to farm valor
hybrid needle
At least it was transferable... i guess
nova marsh
Literal only benefit over the current one tbh
hybrid needle
A benefit is a benefit
nova marsh
fair enuff
hybrid needle
Not even the gear catchup mechanic from the assaults is warbound soo
sudden yew
Which dungeon should I use Colossus or Slayer in?
hybrid needle
If youre pugging go slayer in all.
If not play slayer in aa, ws, sr
languid torrent
with the changes to colo last patch, its alot more pug friendly
sacred raft
Yeah I mainly pug on Colossus
sudden yew
And which stats should I prioritize/cap? Because I’m not doing much damage with my CDs used as Slayer.
sacred raft
Crit and haste are your friends
hybrid needle
If youre used to col go for it, slayer is just easier. Dont care if tank jumps around randomly
languid torrent
first whatever the robot tells you when you compare gear. but slayer tends to want a bit more haste, and colo tends to want a bit more crit
languid torrent
And which stats should I prioritize/cap? Because I’m not doing much damage with ...
colo will always have more damage inside CD windows
but its ST dam and outside damage windows suffers
sudden yew
Is it viable to play Slayer in all +20s and still do good damage?
hybrid needle
Absolutely
sacred raft
ST will be even more important at those key levels too
sudden yew
How much damage should I be doing to not be trolling in a +20?
hybrid needle
As long as you arent last by a mile compared to your team its not trolling. There never is an correct answer to that question
sudden yew
Thanks a lot for clearing up my doubts.
hybrid needle
Ive seen kha do 220 in an npx, ive seen others with 180 in an npx and still doing fine in the key
sudden yew
Where do you think the difference is between one warrior and another?
hybrid needle
Positioning and uptime
clever crag
Where do you think the difference is between one warrior and another?
CD management in raid
sweeping properly
hybrid needle
what are the slayer keys now ?
Bozo converted us all to 8/8 slayers but usually sr, aa, ws
clever crag
If youre pugging go slayer in all.
If not play slayer in aa, ws, sr
slayer on Seat ? thats trolling right
the 2nd boss is big colo
hybrid needle
Oh, that part.
Well, you absolutely can play slayer in it if you really want to.
Col is stronger yes but do you HAVE to play it? No
hybrid needle
If Philiam can 21pug it onnslayer so can we
languid torrent
If Philiam can 21pug it onnslayer so can we
full obsidian
yall arent runnin slayer
languid torrent
yall arent swapping between the two regularly depending on dungeon and comp
full obsidian
no need just ride or die
runic rock
in mythic+ slayer do we use MS with 2 stacks of executioners precision outside of colossus smash?
languid torrent
i have said it once, ill say it a million times, its wild that warriors hate the idea of swapping between the two
clever crag
hihgest point seat btw
wheres the overall at
hybrid needle
how would i know
clever crag
i have said it once, ill say it a million times, its wild that warriors hate the...
yeah I swap cuz I like both
same in pvp
hushed skiff
can anyone share a set focus/clear focus /cast pummel macro? plz 🙂
minor gust
slayer on Seat ? thats trolling right
Trolling? Smh
We been saying both very good slayer best for pugging last 2 weeks and ppl think it's trolling to play slayer in a key
Lmao
tacit crystal
/focus [target=mouseover,exists]; target```
#showtooltip
/use [@focus] Pummel
@hushed skiff
static axle
For a fresh arms (284 ilvl but no trinkets), bonus roll gaze or heart first?
Sim gives almost identical results
minor gust
For a fresh arms (284 ilvl but no trinkets), bonus roll gaze or heart first?
Gaze is easier to roll for. Just roll for it in prot spec. 1/3 chance you get it
vagrant hull
Puzzlebox enjoyers, you using it on CD or matching it with CS
Well not cd, but are you guys holding it for use with other cooldowns like CS
Since we hold everything else for cs
tranquil swift
where can i find the meta arms slayer build
minor gust
wowhead
tranquil swift
think i found it
minor gust
tranquil swift
so is it safe and ok to play col in all dungeons, minus sky and AA?
wispy geode
Is puzzle box good for arms? Sim says fiber of agony is still better but the mastery on this is insane
wispy geode
The puzzle box?
nova marsh
yes
nova marsh
yeah
nova marsh
Hroth
dire hinge
get good ¯_(ツ)_/¯
nova marsh
at least demo does good feels good damage
Only reason box felt good in DF was Ava tech
bite me
dire hinge
box makes you do insano burst damage
nova marsh
I mean yes box is personal pref
crude rapids
Playing colo arms on dragons prog seems like a bad idea no?
stable fiber
Playing colo arms on dragons prog seems like a bad idea no?
no not at all
its good 2t damage, very good orb damage, tanky
slayer is better boss damage now though i think but orbs matter on that fight and colossus kills them better
crude rapids
Il see how it goes just been ook ooking as fury
stable fiber
Il see how it goes just been ook ooking as fury
2bdks = colossus arms
1 bdk = flip a coin on colo arms or thane fury
0 bdk = thane fury
mass grip is op for colossus
crude rapids
Yeah thats what I was thinking cos I'm right at the top for orb positions too 😅
clever wave
do we take mass execution ?
stable fiber
do we take mass execution ?
as slayer?
i always take powerful momentum
better for prio damage
nova marsh
do we take mass execution ?
colo yes slayer no
clever wave
I went mass exe for the AA I just did
and it felt like better overall
i should've prob gone more prio
but we did it anyways
tranquil swift
how irt go dps wise?
tranquil swift
how did it feel?
clever wave
we had 3 seconds left
lol
so it felt tight
but i don't really play arms
our splits were good tho
and slayer st is really nice
clever wave
I did, idk if it was right but thast what a lot of slayer dudes were doing in that key specifically
pulsar frost
only key I ever did as arms the rest fury
Whats mr cnew doing in arms chat
clever wave
figured i'd take a drive by i nhere
nova marsh
Not in arms
tranquil swift
thanks!
steep tree
guys if i use a voidcore on this will it just become lvl 289 or will it's maximum ilevel become 298
do i need to fully upgrade it before using is my question
latent moss
u need to fully upgrade it i think but if u have a crafted already you can upgrade that and save crests then upgrade this one
stable mountain
dont think it gives you the option at all until its max upgrade
and you can do as slayer said to make this a free 6/6 myth
tranquil swift
I noticed avatar , CS and BS don’t always line up. What’s the rule with this. Send in CD? Hold avatar for BS/CS? is there a rule of thumb! Thanks!
fiery inlet
I noticed avatar , CS and BS don’t always line up. What’s the rule with this. Se...
afaik never send any cd without cs up
uncut wing
guys if i use a voidcore on this will it just become lvl 289 or will it's maximu...
You have to max it out before upgrading with voidcore . It will not apply otherwise
balmy kindle
tried the TE build in SR 17 and was pleasantly surprised, you do lose big dmg on massacre but you never run out of rage and globals hmm
thick kelp
hence its the no skyfury build
balmy kindle
kinda nice, probably gonna try it with skyfury
OP really does alot of heavy lifting int his
steep jay
Is there a link to this build and its priority list? Fancy trying it later on.
balmy kindle
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very cursed
steep jay
Ta
Does the opener have overpower first cast to allow for the reset to actually matter?
balmy kindle
nope, you basically do the same things except u use MS after CS now
also when OP has tact proc u wanna send it because opp makes it hit VERY hard
latent moss
ye basically op with opp up and ms has high prio after cs until you spend tactical edge
latent moss
balmy kindle
see how much diff is there 
experimentation
hasty pumice
<:keks:936231610850897992>
Ooh the MT21 yday was a 96 parse
If I didn't die twice on 3rd boss it'd be higher
🔥
hasty pumice
the grip?
Yeah my tank moved the cleave add away so I adjusted and fucked up the succc movement when swapping sides
Then I rezd mid soak and insta died again
latent moss
tank...
latent moss
i love when i a d a d inside a puddle and get ticked 4 times instantly
balmy kindle
^
latent moss
died on salhadaar like that
hasty pumice
I just wonder why the soak aoe disappears when somebody dies to it
But it's actually still there
Until the mech is over
latent moss
ita actually dope that the dmg is deflectable
hasty pumice
Also I learnt
That spell reflect is bugged in the 2nd boss in mt
If I spell reflect the AoE silence wave inside the bubble
I get silenced for 6 seconds
?
Dumb shit
hasty pumice
Yeah I just pressed it without thinking
latent moss
dstance expulsion on first and the circle clear on 2nd
hasty pumice
Stood in the bubble
latent moss
gg
hybrid needle
And got silenced like idk mang
Want the easy explanation for that
leaden garnet
That spell reflect is bugged in the 2nd boss in mt
It reflects the first tick of the bubble
hybrid needle
Spell reflec delays the silence from bubble by 1 second.
The silence from the bubble is what triggers the check for the bosses silence ability. Youre not silenced > you will get silenced
leaden garnet
Goofy interaction but not that hard to avoid
static axle
For slayer, which keys are for bloodborne + battlelord VS Massacre + crit execute talent? Both seems ST talents but from different perspectives
wind flicker
I heard someone talk about reflecting on last boss SKY, anyone know about that?
hasty pumice
Goofy interaction but not that hard to avoid
That is fucking dumb
daring heron
I heard someone talk about reflecting on last boss SKY, anyone know about that?
taunt solar blast reflect
naive sage
Critcake67 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤲
wind flicker
taunt solar blast reflect
Huge, you pumping it somewhere in ur vod so i have a visual on it?
daring heron
It'll be in a vod somewhere
yesterdays was bad tho but it's in the default boss timers
wind flicker
Ill have a look if i can find it somewhere, thank mr crit ^^
daring heron
just taunt 1 sec before cast and dont be in melee range when you taunt
wind flicker
❤️
tranquil moth
Guys im a bit confused in which situations to use the talent Fierce Followthrough vs Opportunist. do you have any rule? (raid content)
fresh spire
can use either, all it effects is how you use mortal strike in execute, with fierce you use ms when ever you get 2x of Executioners Precision, with opportunist you only MS when CS is up and 2x EP while spending Opportunist procs>execute
thorn void
is there any macro one should know about for arms? :v
tranquil moth
can use either, all it effects is how you use mortal strike in execute, with fie...
ndo you also wait to 3x Martial Prowess before MS?
fresh spire
nah
as long as you either do the 2 above every other talent options line up
actions.slayer_execute+=/mortal_strike,if=buff.executioners_precision.stack=2&(debuff.colossus_smash.up|talent.fierce_followthrough&(talent.martial_prowess|buff.tactical_edge.up|talent.battlelord))|dot.rend_dot.remains<2
EPx2 + CS or Fierce talented + (Talent MP/ Tactical Edge up/ Battlelord talented)
wooden lava
look at this guy
is he cooking?
he completely separated avatar from CS and BS for the crystals in P1 and just sent it
which let him line it up amazing for p3 and he fucking crankedddddd
tranquil moth
```actions.slayer_execute+=/mortal_strike,if=buff.executioners_precision.stack=2...
what is this code for?
wooden lava
the issue is, until the lust in P3, he always had desynced CDs
but the numbers don't lie
umbral linden
what is this code for?
advanced sim settings
wooden lava
he even ended up getting two avatars in P4
and it seems to be working consistently
he is 5 of the top 10 logs
his P3 rng variance is insane
tranquil moth
can use either, all it effects is how you use mortal strike in execute, with fie...
trying to understand the thing... so during execute phase; without CS i spam execute and overpower? (opportunist talented)
pearl shore
when would you pick slayer over colossus in high m+ keys?
flat willow
in keys where there is a lot of bosses where you can't bring funnel/your group already has a lot of aoe and you wan't more ST
algethar academy and skyreach are probably the 2 keys where slayer is the most "mandatory"
which is really sad cuz your first pull of academy as slayer will be atrociously low ( even if you are useful with high prio target on the lashers )
barren void
The rest is pad anyways doesnt matter
astral talon
gentlemen
i have fuckton of crests left, i have most bis items, i do have crit/haste wrists, but i have no place to get 2nd crafted item with embelish
do I just get it on wrists, that are already mythic, or boots, which i dont have mythic yet
soft peak
wrist and cloak
pearl shore
bullshit
sim your char, do the highest upgrade
can still recraft to wrists once you got mythic boots
astral talon
not gonna be doing 20 recrafts, cba
and mythic boots drop from vorasius
and legs
and trinket
xd
or was it hands?
either way
i can spend crests on upgrading wrists, or get crafted there xd
pearl shore
then do whatever you feel like
but don't pretend you want actual advice when you really just want confirmation even though your plan is suboptimal
astral talon
my questioin was about slot mostly
pearl shore
yes, and boots have a higher stat budget than wrists. That's the reason "progress bis" crafts vary from "final bis" crafts.
During progress you don't have mythic items on every slot available yet you want your higher stat budget slots as high ilvl as possible
So it makes sense to craft on these slots early on (that's why basically every class crafts weapons first)
Only later in progression where you can have mythic items on every slot you want your crafts to be on low stat budget item slots since they will be 4 ilvl lower than max ilvl, that's why your "final bis" crafts are wrist and cloak
Yet still boots are risky
If you plan to bonus roll on vorarius and chimaerus for trinkets, you might get boots pretty quick
Then I wouldn't craft boots
if you don't raid, then i would craft there probably for now
paper gulch
and mythic boots drop from vorasius
You can always bonus roll a dungeon that drops boots and catalyze them.
sacred zodiac
boots kinda horrible craft slot with so many early bosses dropping boots
pearl shore
yea, like I said. If you're raiding I wouldn't craft boots
sacred zodiac
dont need to properly raid to pug chim + first 2
sacred zodiac
if you dont raid at all then you dont need crafting advice for your weekly 10s
no one is pushing high keys without being aware of them needing to pug at least a little of the raid
pearl shore
there is a subset of m+ pushing guys that never raid
i think you could even get 0.1% title without ever raiding mythic
only problem are the trinkets really and I think puzzle box and skyreach on myth track would be fine enough
old mulch
quick question just clarifying - in aoe: for colo ms>op but slayer op>ms?
wind flicker
Without BL, my god slayer pumps
stark siren
hey, can I ask you guys some advice on why my damage is so low on singletarget raiding, by showing you logs ? 👉👈
*edited: oh just saw there's a discussion log review, i'll go there, thanks!
wind flicker
Without BL, my god slayer pumps
Pure st last boss mt on 20
thick kelp
Holy lura dam
sacred zodiac
fake
halcyon valve
Freaky
midnight mural
what is that 😮
halcyon valve
Why did the other 2 dps do no dmg tho
sacred zodiac
aug execute pi
which spec do i play on MT oh mighty brewjj57
thick kelp
what is that 😮
its the no skyfury build
balmy cipher
Holy lura dam
And I thought Arms was bad at ST (still have not done any end game content with my warrior)
leaden garnet
even played the curse build
What the fuck is that even
I'm genuinely baffled by it
thick kelp
What the fuck is that even
balmy cipher
My fellow warriors, are the arms prios anywhere pinned here in the discord?
thick kelp
on wowhead
balmy cipher
on wowhead
Gotcha will check it when I get back home, thanks!
wicked pagoda
do we send avatar and ravager together or do we accept they desync and just send with smash in M+
torn rivet
yo guys
in raiding, i often have fairly volatile parses. Some times it's ~70, other times even 96-98. Is this all based on procs? (and sham buff mostly) but is this just because of proc fluctuation in burst scenarios, feast & famine, etc? I swear I can't point out any mistake I'm doing at this point
pearl shore
can arms somehow remove roots?
feral breach
can arms somehow remove roots?
Slayer charge talent and bladestorm
pearl shore
Slayer charge talent and bladestorm
Makes sense that I didn't find it as colossus, thanks
do you ever play colossus when pugging higher keys when you're not sure your tank will pull stuff into boss fights?
limber river
Even if the tank doesn’t pull shut into bosses slayer just does more dps single target, I legit only play col if there is already a strong prio dps in the group
pearl shore
when simming 3+ targets I do more prio dmg as colossus
and more dps in general
slayer only pulls ahead in purely ST scenarios
olive nest
yes thats normal
pearl shore
so colossus should be the better prio dps and better aoe option, no?
olive nest
yes, it is
pearl shore
but when your group doesn't pull for you it's turbo shit on bosses
olive nest
you know it
slow saddle
How big is gap at 3t on prio target?
I still feel like i so pretty damn good as slayer
slow saddle
I player on all
leaden garnet
Even then I'm tempted to run Colo on AA because it does so much more overall
leaden garnet
It is a generally true statement that Colo does more overall than Slayer, regardless of dungeon
slow saddle
But its so irrelevant
Str of col is the funnel, mass aoe is incidental slayer offers a bit less funnel to higher st
And less dependancy on m+ grp
leaden garnet
Yes, true statements
Does not change the fact that Colo provides higher overall, which means faster keys
atomic crown
quick question: wowhead guide multi target rotation means 2+ targets right?
olive nest
3+
mortal crag
wallahi
tired nova
where would I find an updated APL for arms slayer?
olive nest
run a quick sim and open the full html
mortal crag
If i dont have windfury i will just play Slayer fury
someone checked
and took bloodsurge
i think over pm
and it was like a 3% dps icnrease lmao
tired nova
run a quick sim and open the full html
did, but that one still has the cleave line for st in it
and i think i already saw somewhere in here mention that you dont do that anymore
twin hazel
What enchants are you all putting on your 2 handers?
leaden garnet
What enchants are you all putting on your 2 handers?
Your options are haste, crit, or strength. Go with whatever the sim says
mortal crag
im rocking intelligence
finite cradle
Hey gamers
I'm leveling up my Arms right now, currently level 87. Tryin to learn as I go
I discovered Wrecking Throw kinda fuckin blasts. It seems to do more dmg 1:1 than anything else I have besides maybe execute. Why isn't this in the rotation?
Suppose people wanna save it for the anti shield function, or a gcd while at range, but if I'm feelin froggy seems fine to throw out normally too yeah? Cus it chunks?
mortal crag
Hey gamers
I'm leveling up my Arms right now, currently level 87. Tryin to lear...
well its on a 45s cd
finite cradle
i know
mortal crag
it is on the rotation, if u have nothing to press
thing is, it doesnt generate rage (or consume any tbf) and doesnt have any real amplifiers besides colo/ava
finite cradle
oh i haven't seen it listed on any prioritys in guides
so im not crazy then tho, ppl do press it
mortal crag
yeah because from a rotational standpoint it doesnt interact
with anything
e.g. u can fish overpower resets with slam procs
u can fish mortal strike resets with overpower procs (battlelord etc)
finite cradle
ya thats what i was thinkin, it doesnt really move anything forward like the rest
but if i just wanan burst something seems good to hit then, or def if i have nothing else
checks out
mortal crag
also
wt does less damage tahn my slam
on colossus
so probs leveling/gear scaling as well
matter of fact wt does same damage as rend
(25-27k on dummy)
finite cradle
Ahhh I see, the other things are gonna outscale it too
Ok now it's lack of mention in the guides is making more sense
Cus yeah it's like two slams for me
rn
toxic osprey
It's a powerful (imo) 3 sec silence range, can save some situation with it like in Chim MM if the adds that fear spawn far away
But "that's it", still good to shred shield in mono
mortal crag
the only time id press it in a rotation is if literally have nothing to press
no rage and no overpower ig
finite cradle
I was playin with Bloodsurge talent earlier and I like never ran out of rage as long as I did the priority properly
but now i'm playin without it and I do run out sometimes. always makes me feel like such a noob, but sounds like it does just happen sometimes eh
brazen sun
hi there fellas . how much haste to play slayer arms
latent basin
hi there fellas . how much haste to play slayer arms
Its not like you need an exact number to play a class anymore i think - Atleast warrior
If you wonder wich stats should you aim for i reccomend you use raidbots and select the TOP GEAR section
brazen sun
thanks for info
mortal crag
Its not like you need an exact number to play a class anymore i think - Atleast ...
SOME classes do have caps
but yeah, warr just stacks crit/haste til sims tell u to stop doing that
(which is very high btw, im at like 1k both almost)
my bad im over 1k both
latent basin
SOME classes do have caps
Yes but its not like you need to reach certain breakpoint for that class to be able to play it - your dps might be lower but its not like its unplayable
mortal crag
yeah
on another note
any exboss gamers
that knows where the fuck do i find this
its the grim skirmisher
bitter vale
during paladins hammer soak, is there any way to know where hammers will spawn? or safe place to position to not have it spawn on me
silver sapphire
Check if there’s a target range on them in spellbook
unborn patrol
Is there a reasonable way to play with 2nd wind with the M+ spec? I really love that talent...
I was thinking ditch rumbling earth for it and sure enough that's the top build on Archon lol
dark ledge
Anyone else having issues lately with suddenly not having a target in packs?
little trellis
no
dim basalt
Can Blizz just fix rage finally
echo ibex
anybody have a decent arms build for Vanguards M?
dim basalt
Im so tired of running out of rage in raid
dire hinge
I was thinking ditch rumbling earth for it and sure enough that's the top build ...
Honestly it’s fine to drop it for that, but you also shouldn’t need it unless your healer is hurting. Neither are super required talents
dire hinge
anybody have a decent arms build for Vanguards M?
Just take the one from WarcraftLogs
echo ibex
Just take the one from WarcraftLogs
🫃
fossil stag
guys if you play slayer when do you rend in single target?
dim basalt
guys if you play slayer when do you rend in single target?
Exactly when the condition of the guide is met
fossil stag
the guide doesnt show it in opener
thorn void
Im so tired of running out of rage in raid
it's so fun not being able to press anything
thick kelp
anybody have a decent arms build for Vanguards M?
CcEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAgZmxsMzMzYGAAAghphZYmxyMzMzgxMDAAAAgxmZgtYAbmxwCMwMsRjBLgZGbjtBzmZbwMDAwMDD 🫃
dim basalt
the guide doesnt show it in opener
But it is in the priority breakdown
short crescent
looks like we ignore it during excute then
🫃
short crescent
Brother I wouldn't be playing warrior if I could read
thorn void
Brother I wouldn't be playing warrior if I could read
wouldn't that be more in line with paladin?
copper swan
rend still being a button to press in 2026 
fossil stag
ye i dunno if you dont wanna help just dont answer, no need for the passive aggressiveness
fresh spire
thorn void
question to this actually, "Execute during sudden death or near rage cap"
What we do if not near rage cap? Just follow regular single target?
short crescent
during exe prio?
thorn void
ye
short crescent
You follow the prio list and ignore the top half
thorn void
hmm yk what ignore my question
thorn void
You follow the prio list and ignore the top half
yeah i just realized
mb
that's my iq check for the day
fossil stag
it says when to reapply it but never when to use it first, the opener doesn't show it too
still rapids
for colossus are we going the old build or martial prowess?
fossil stag
nvm i cant read
broken spear
Hey guys sometimes in M+ aoe my demolish will come up like 15+ seconds before colossus smash is back off cd, do i still hold it to send em together in that case or try to sneak one extra in?
short crescent
listen I'm trying to reinforce the "warriors can't read" bit here but you are making it hard
xD, apply is way down there for ST
fossil stag
that sneaky little "to apply or"
thats why i asked the original question, i missed it
thorn void
Hey guys sometimes in M+ aoe my demolish will come up like 15+ seconds before co...
depends on how long Colossus is on cd for as far as i know
short crescent
I think you hold it for double demo
CS, Demo, MS, Cleave x3, MS and you are probably close to demo'ing again within the window
thick kelp
aoe send it ST hold
umbral badger
bruv for whateve rreason i feel i am doing less dps this week than last week 😮
or just bad rng
still rapids
for colossus are we going the old build or martial prowess?
anyone knows?
barren vortex
when do people user slayer for M+?
wind hatch
when do people user slayer for M+?
in keys that have a high emphasis on single target like AA and SR
still rapids
Am i missing something? i do way less damage with this build than the martial prowess
barren vortex
in keys that have a high emphasis on single target like AA and SR
thank you!!
wind hatch
Am i missing something? i do way less damage with this build than the martial pr...
Switching out one talent isnt going to drastically effect your damage at all
still rapids
Switching out one talent isnt going to drastically effect your damage at all
yeah of course but ST is unbareable without funnel
wind hatch
Taking martial prowess is a minor st gain for a minor aoe loss
but taking mass execution is higher overall
still rapids
Alright thanks
barren vortex
is there a good guide going over the rotations? a few times in M+ colossus smash and demolish will end up about split 15 seconds and I was wondering if its better to let it rip or hold until they sync
cobalt lodge
so i saw that arms climbed a few spots; is it good in most raid encounters now or still really bad outside of paladin fight?
still rapids
is there a good guide going over the rotations? a few times in M+ colossus smash...
if theres time for colossus smash still active use it if not save it to use it with colossus smash
warped owl
is there a good guide going over the rotations? a few times in M+ colossus smash...
If there is more than 10 seconds on cd for colossal smash, I just send demolish if it’s up
It will be up again in that Colo smash window
Assuming 3targets+
umbral badger
is there a good guide going over the rotations? a few times in M+ colossus smash...
unless we are talking about ST here, 15 seconds are roughly 1 single mortal strike "with sweeping strikes" if you have 10 stacks of colossal might.
umbral badger
Taking martial prowess is a minor st gain for a minor aoe loss
also and tbf i think martial prowess is only good if the dungeons "or the tanks" are not pulling for funneling, more and more tanks have been doing that anyway though.
torn rivet
yo lads, on m+ in ST do you send cleave too or nah?
umbral badger
yo lads, on m+ in ST do you send cleave too or nah?
short answer is no :p
torn rivet
lol fair
forgot to mention, talking abt slayer. Still unsure whether to rock slayer or colo in M+
umbral badger
oh slayer never needs to think about cleave short or long answer :p;
colossus can find "situations" where they can Cleave on ST still" primarily only on lats boss execute phase with ravager up"
tranquil swift
On opener for Col, obviously as rank is gathering we are building stacks. Do we avatar cs then cleave 3 times to get the 10? Or do we send demo right after CS on opening pull? Usually if I do that I have like 6-8 stacks
maiden moon
sorry to ask but what are the spell or conditions that reduces demolish cd ?
maiden moon
alright, that means ms give 1 stack and cleave possibly 3 ?
crystal rain
With sweeping you can get alot more
wind hatch
alright, that means ms give 1 stack and cleave possibly 3 ?
cleave only ever gives one
MS can give up to 4
dim basalt
Lura is...wild
The private auras stuff is shit but otherwise P1 seems kinda fun so far
rich lance
any kind sould that could help me with a sim
minor gust
The private auras stuff is shit but otherwise P1 seems kinda fun so far
First person to like P1 Lura
dim basalt
Its just awful that we are super useless in P1 lmao
Ele sham chills at 180k-200k
We are half of that
minor gust
Yeah typical arms raid experience
Complete useless first half the fight
Then end up top by the end
hybrid needle
Others parse 4 when being alive for the whole fight, be proud of yourself
dim basalt
Could be worse
dim basalt
ye its bad
minor gust
Parsed a 4
Bro I hate this game. All my parses are good then you just look at crown and it's forever cursed because we are bad at P1 blobs
Also our tanks position weird so anytime I get obelisks in P2 I'm most likely off the boss to be able to hit add
It's real cursed
minor gust
ionic mica
at least you guys get to play, i got benched for arms being "awful for lura" because they saw crit swapped to fury??
dim basalt
lmao what
ionic mica
when i can also play arms
idk man i cba to fight over it
belo made sense, needed immunities and egg burst w/e
minor gust
at least you guys get to play, i got benched for arms being "awful for lura" bec...
Just link em Khazixs kill
Arms on top baby
ionic mica
once i realised it wasnt for any melee restrictions etc it was for "arms bad lol" i cba
id be fighting to get someone else benched anyway, literally would either be a dev who just went havoc or my ret friend i joined the guild with
minor gust
Yeah that's crazy because arms isn't even bad on Laura. It's just bad and P1 and P2
ionic mica
he just found it more comfy
thick kelp
Guys I thought arms was supposed to do bad Egg dam on belo
ionic mica
i think officer had his stream open when he decided to go fury and misunderstood what he said
minor gust
Guys I thought arms was supposed to do bad Egg dam on belo
2nd egg starting in execute
hybrid needle
should've lived longer to make it a 6
Sir
nova marsh
Please don't execute me for a crap joke
ebon tendon
Please don't execute me for a crap joke
execute execute execute execute execute
hybrid needle
Are you a good rogue
hybrid needle
Hmm
hybrid needle
Ok question
nova marsh
Bozo vouches for em
hybrid needle
Fatebound is all passive pm right, nothing to pay too much attention to?
nova marsh
mostly ye
there are only two real big chanegs for fatebound
spend at 5 and don't pre pop AR
before u pull boss
well okay
spend Dispatch at 5
hybrid needle
Yeh since its all about le coins u cant really plan around anything so it doesnt Affect your rotation at all right
nova marsh
aside from it makes spending at 5 very good, yeah it dosen't affect much
hybrid needle
I think spending at 5+ has ALWAYS been the rule of thumb regardless
wind hatch
i think officer had his stream open when he decided to go fury and misunderstood...
just tell them to look at lura logs lol
hybrid needle
Can you gimme a tldr for trickstee
ionic mica
just tell them to look at lura logs lol
i know and they know
cba to argue other people out of a spot if its not obvious
nova marsh
Trickster is more annoying:
You don't need to stay in the smoke, just dip in once you cast and then at some point before the 10 seconds ends and the buff expires for full duration
Spend at 6+ exclusively
Try and spend Coup at max Combo points for a big burst of CDR
You can spend Killing Spree at 5, and I think you can cancel it early once at max points for a small gain or loss
oh
ionic mica
theyre also only one night in and already have people complaining so idk how long some of them will even last progging p1
nova marsh
cancel Spree early if ur about to cap on energy
wind hatch
theyre also only one night in and already have people complaining so idk how lon...
my guild took 120 pulls to get to intermission for the first time
hybrid needle
Cancelling killing Spree sounds like a massive Design Flaw. It always was THE ability for combat rogues
nova marsh
Please turn down particle density for your own sanity
KS is in such an awkward spot atm ngl
at least it dosen't kill u anymore
ionic mica
my guild took 120 pulls to get to intermission for the first time
think the avg prog time is over 20 hours or something
hybrid needle
One more question
ionic mica
and people complaining after 2.5
hybrid needle
at least it dosen't kill u anymore <:keks:936231610850897992>
Im playing assa rn to get into flow of things, from the stats it looks like all rogues use the same spread roughly anyways.
Can i swap between and play what i want with same gear or does Outlaw need other weapons as in swords instead of daggers
nova marsh
Law needs one sword
OH dagger is about a 1% gain against a second sword of same ilvl
Other then that, seems like the same stat prio for both
sudden owl
false
hybrid needle
So 2 daggers not viable ?
sudden owl
all of your pistol damage scales off your offhand damage
nova marsh
So 2 daggers not viable ?
no
nova marsh
all of your pistol damage scales off your offhand damage
Dosen't matter
Zero in matters more
And like
vagrant hull
Puzzle box users. In M+ are you holding it for cs or using situationally by itself based on pulls?
sudden owl
oh i think i misread what you're trying to say
you want high ilvl in both slots as outlaw > everything
tardy crag
6
sudden owl
because between the eyes and pistol shot scale off of your offhead weapon dps
wind hatch
Puzzle box users. In M+ are you holding it for cs or using situationally by itse...
use before cs
nova marsh
you want high ilvl in both slots as outlaw > everything
I did say dagger sims about 1% better then same ilvl OH of sword mace or axe
hybrid needle
Is Outlaw far ahead over assa
vagrant hull
use before cs
Much thank
nova marsh
I don't think so?
sudden owl
in raid yes in keys no
hybrid needle
In keys specifically. I enjoy spamming tempest until everything is bleeding. Cant tell u why but it increases my dopamine levels
nova marsh
ele or enhance?
hybrid needle
What?
nova marsh
OH
sudden owl
no in keys assa is technically the most powerful guy last i checked
sudden owl
of the rogue guys
you will not have fun if your tank doesnt pull huge or mobs die too fast tho
hybrid needle
So youre saying Outlaw more pug friendly
wide apex
outlaw also seems more succesful in m+ than assa right now or
hybrid needle
Outlaw always is 55-60% overall dmg with blade flurry. Seems boring
wide apex
its more fun than fury
nova marsh
It'd be like if fury WW counted all the damage of WW stacks as WW
wide apex
yeah to me outlaw is like a fun fury spec
hybrid needle
Would you rank assa or Outlaw as more fun and which one is simpler considering you play fatebound on both
Probably assa eh? Assa is easy af
wide apex
assa is easier imo
nova marsh
I dont like dots
hybrid needle
The wowhead for both speccs seem so scuffed
nova marsh
Assa easier and probably more consistent
Bro
U should see
The sub wowhead page
That shit feels omega scuffed
nova marsh
Press tech in shadow dance
hybrid needle
Burst from subs is crazy tho
nova marsh
The burst is great
wide apex
yeah idc about numbers
hybrid needle
Ive seen them pull 350-400k singletarget on m+ bosses for half a minute
hybrid needle
Question
Do you seriously use fan of Knives for 2 targets?
Feels like it doesnt generate any cp
hybrid needle
That seems so wrong idk
I can KIND OF understand why assa does it, cause poisons.. but sub ?
hybrid needle
Meh, it is what it is.
Ill play assa for now and roll all my cores in pit, if it gets too boring ill craft a sword and try Outlaw ig
nova marsh
Backstab is df slam levels of bad imo
hybrid needle
I just hate that dance is just a casual ability now. Used to be a big cd with massive dam
And i need a break drom warr, depleting a 20aa by like 5 seconds gave me depression
hybrid needle
Idk how Outlaw works, never played it cause i dont vibe with pirates
Last time i played Outlaw pistolshot had a 20s cd and was used over dispatch as spender. So technically i lied
rose matrix
I'd say Outlaw is the best for M+
8 of the top 10 rogues are Outlaw
2 of them are Sub
nova marsh
Outlaw reminded me you can have actual good st in m+
wary raft
Outlaw always is 55-60% overall dmg with blade flurry. Seems boring
so imagine if warrior whirlwind cleave just showed as whirlwind damage on details, thats why outlaw looks boring (I didint read past this and I am not sure if this was told to u alr or not)
outlaw fkn cranks and its fun
rose matrix
We’re gonna get turbo nerfed after mdi aren’t we
Why? Warrior isn't even close to needing a nerf
nova marsh
But... trickster..
Fatebound isnt active and is pretty close now
I agree thou fuck trickster
deft bluff
Why? Warrior isn't even close to needing a nerf
Getting lots of play in mdi usually goes hand in hand with a nerf
void compass
good evening folks, quick question, does arms truly suck on raid or am i doing something majorly flawed ? stuff like wowanalyzer says nothing major is wrong but it also said it's not up to date. idk where to look at really to do better https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/ch4aLk73rgXvRHTF?fight=37&source=47&type=summary
rose matrix
Pretty sure you're forced to play other specs in mdi now