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stable fiber
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that button is too good

latent moss
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its like if slam was a real button

stable fiber
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yup

latent moss
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also u said its like giga broken tanky but idk doesnt feel like it looking at the defensives am i missing something

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blur is like what

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dstance + stance mastery

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in terms of dr

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i guess insane leech cause dh

stable fiber
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its dr isnt crazy

latent moss
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holy 20% leech in meta

stable fiber
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but 20% leech in meta + consume soul

hasty pumice
latent moss
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ye makes sense

hasty pumice
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This season doesn't have a lot of burst damage

latent moss
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timewalking is so

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mentally draiing

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i cant do ts anymore

hasty pumice
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Why are you doing it

latent moss
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leveling

hasty pumice
stable fiber
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double checking

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oh dont i change the 2 no gcd cleave

stable sapphire
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non shaman build o gosh

stable fiber
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tactical edge

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yeah im doing a key with no shaman

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dedge

stable sapphire
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give up

latent moss
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ye

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tactical edge

stable fiber
latent moss
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its 5% more st

stable sapphire
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They gotta do something with raid buffs man

latent moss
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and like a few % more aoe

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crushing combo is a massive loss

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on st

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without shaman

stable fiber
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ic

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how close is this to the normal build

latent moss
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without skyfury?

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or with

stable fiber
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without skyfury this build

latent moss
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5% more st

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i forgot aoe but its like 2-3%

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bot is telling me to drop efficiency for bloodsurge but that shit isnt simming right

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its starving on aoe

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i refuse to believe u can starve on aoe as slayer

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WITH TE

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like no fucking way

balmy kindle
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ive tried the TE build on lowish keys around the 12-14 range, u never get rage starved

latent moss
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on aoe

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its something like

balmy kindle
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but losign massacre kind of blows

latent moss
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cleave>op with opp>sd>ms with te up>op

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rest doesnt matter

balmy kindle
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the build does have VERY high op dmg for whats worth

hasty pumice
latent moss
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nah kha was asking

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about the no skyfury

hasty pumice
latent moss
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and without it u kinda have to play te

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if u want st

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from my experience massacre ct is kind of fine maybe without skyfury

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but u can starve so bad

hasty pumice
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Idk in the 21s and most 20s I didn't do a single dungeon without shammy

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Not worth

latent moss
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ye

hasty pumice
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I don't have a desire to giga gimp myself

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Oh yeah I got resi 21 yday Mr slayer arms warrior2

latent moss
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W

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goat

hasty pumice
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Next stop: 22s

latent moss
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easy

hasty pumice
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Hopefully assembling a Phys stack with Arrigos

balmy kindle
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every lobby : wtb shaman

stable fiber
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ok yeah

hasty pumice
stable fiber
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OP does big dam

hasty pumice
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Luckily

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If rshaman was shit, we'd be in a rough AF spot ngl

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Cause ele shammies are rare

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And enh is shit

balmy kindle
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its aite here in the 17-18s but the lack of dps shams kinda stings

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Rsham of course is still the SSR for phys comps

hasty pumice
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I mean ele is super squishy

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Probably why many don't play it

balmy kindle
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yeap, i dont blame em

hasty pumice
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And enhance is also super squishy now and shit

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I was in a key with crimsf where he tried out enh

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And he just went "yeah my spec doesn't exist GG"

balmy kindle
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rofl yeah like its just astra shift and afterwards they just fall over

hasty pumice
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Nah even in terms of damage. It was after the enh shammy buffs

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The aoe burst was fine but nothing crazy and the ST was meh

balmy kindle
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really, damn thats rough...

i do know enh has alot of pad dmg. On overall it looks amazing but stuff just dont die

latent moss
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dont they lose prio dmg

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if u pull shit

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on top of boss

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or is that ele

stable fiber
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i timed the +21 with a enh

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he didnt seem THAT squishy

hasty pumice
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He has one defensive

stable fiber
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infact i seemed squisher as a slayer arms

hasty pumice
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That's a self report

stable fiber
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u sure

hasty pumice
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100%

stable fiber
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idk man

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can i really afford to go dstance

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every bleed

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in sr

hasty pumice
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Bro you survive mana bomb + wyrm overlap in AA21/22

balmy kindle
stable fiber
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i mean thats a obvious

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dstance

hasty pumice
smoky kayak
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haven't experienced it so possible some kind of addon issue, could also just be some obscure CDR calculation bug

open galleon
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Fresh warr here .Better to upg crafted Enbell wep> 295 ? Or bonus roll garfrost POS wep >298 (I don’t have yet ) ?

smoky kayak
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upgrade your weapon; voidcrests aren't limited and it'll save you some more mythic crests on upgrading that weapon once it does drop

sage tartan
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does anyone else run into an issue with the hs macro on to ms, where it gets stuck on hs? I think it happens if you get a loading screen and hs times out during it but not entirely sure. The only way to fix it I have found is relog

open galleon
latent moss
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how do u play without slam on bars

smoky kayak
latent moss
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dont craft it then

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its a waste

smoky kayak
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of course, if you're 2 rolls away from Pit weapon, just get it after the next reset

latent moss
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is it crest neutral?

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to craft then get a 289 and upgrade it

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crests are so brutal man

thick kelp
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You save 20

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if u craft -> voidforge -> myth wep

smoky kayak
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correct

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if that's worth the sparks/gold, go ahead I guess

latent moss
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worth doing then if udont care about gold

smoky kayak
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though as a new player, I suspect there would be better things to craft in the interim

latent moss
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i mean u have like 5 billion sparks atp

thick kelp
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10ish sparks now?

latent moss
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isnt it 12 half sparks

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so weapon + 4 crafts

thick kelp
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oh 12 alr

latent moss
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i need keys on ret

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can u help me

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need crests and magisters to roll on

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so i can get discounts on warr

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if i get all discounts i can get

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3 ilvl next week

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kinda insane

stable fiber
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feels nice without shaman

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although this is with a aug

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but im doing like 300k overall in a seat

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we did not time it however

latent moss
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xdd

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show overall breakdown

stable fiber
latent moss
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hoooooly op

stable fiber
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2nd dps was a ddh

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he did 20k less overall

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idk if my combatlog worked

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wcl is like bricked rn

latent moss
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he did even less

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then

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i think

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idk wheenver i played with aug

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it was kinda ahh

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for me

stable fiber
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i think its solid for arms now

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slayer atleast

stable fiber
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cut like the last 2 mins off

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220k pretty much until full wipe

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its kinda good ngl

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the aug gave me more dps

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then the ddh

latent moss
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ye for no shaman prolly best

stable fiber
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but ddh did less dps

latent moss
stable fiber
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great

latent moss
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tho ig u didnt have a st fight

austere hamlet
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why do u think pre .5 col was harder than it is now ?

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just curious

stable fiber
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when i played it after .5 u kinda can just send demolish whenever you want and itll always line up with cds

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obviously if cs is 5 seconds out you dont send

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but there is less thinking now and more just send

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before you atleast had to wait

austere hamlet
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mmh ok that makes sense. I might be misremembering but I feel like it usually just lined up pretty well

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cs and demo on aoe that is

stable fiber
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it did line up well before the .5 patch

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pretty much perfectly

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the issue is now its TOO fast

austere hamlet
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wouldnt it be more difficult now then or ?

stable fiber
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hmm its making it sound like im saying its harder

austere hamlet
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haha

stable fiber
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the vods i watched of some colossus gameplay it seemed so braindead though

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just spam demolish perma

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dont even try to line it up

austere hamlet
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have u played any col yet ?

stable fiber
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i played it the week slayer was way worse

austere hamlet
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idk, I feel like there are more decisons to make post .5

stable fiber
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i havent played it recently though so im speaking on something im not enlightened on anymore

austere hamlet
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one thing though, u dont really get punished for sending demo at the tail end of a pull, so that part is a bit easier I suppose

stable fiber
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yeah i noticed that more often in the vod i watched

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the gameplay loop felt like you went

cs -> 2 demolishes (both while cs is still active) -> cs -> 1 demolish -> repeat

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atleast in aoe

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packs dont tend to live that long however

austere hamlet
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well before it was cs -> demo, cs -> demo, cs -> demo

stable fiber
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yeah

austere hamlet
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I was just curious cause I think col is hard to play atm

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and so much fun

stable fiber
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i think both are fun

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colossus aoe rotations feels impossible without a shaman though critcake

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just always play with one ez

austere hamlet
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yeah, I decided 1 week into the season to leave every group that couldnt field a shaman lmao

stable fiber
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slayer has it a little better with the new build that was discovered

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and slayer aoe is just less rage intensive anyways

austere hamlet
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can you link said build ?

stable fiber
stable fiber
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is that efficienty point worth it

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i feel like it sucks

latent moss
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nothing else to take

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its actually

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more than ct

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in terms of saving

stable fiber
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master tactician is worse then efficienty

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...

elder zealot
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Shai aren't you literally the #1 Arms warrior atm?

stable fiber
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he is yes

latent moss
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master tactician is 0.4% over an aoe talent

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on st

austere hamlet
latent moss
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yeah crushing combo is quite a big loss

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o nst

austere hamlet
latent moss
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without skyfury

stable fiber
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yeah tactical edge utilizes MS in ST to alleviate some of the ST rage issues

latent moss
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both te and efficiency help with unlucky procs

elder zealot
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Glad to see that even at the top, you'll look for info here 😅

stable fiber
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permanent state of learning>>>

austere hamlet
elder zealot
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Yeah, it's a great mindset

stable fiber
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millions must learn

austere hamlet
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the eternal student🙏🏻

stable fiber
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i dont like that efficiency point though

turbid solar
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So is there two builds we should use with and without a shammy?

stable fiber
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colossus idk

latent moss
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it simmed the highest

thick kelp
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@latent moss the hell you ratting your way to high ilvl

turbid solar
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The one above is for which and can we link the other

stable fiber
latent moss
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its awful

stable fiber
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idk i feel like more OP procs is OP

latent moss
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bloodsurge sims high but its like

balmy kindle
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they should make master tact be like 25% or smth

latent moss
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mickey mouse rage on st

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and aoe we dont need rage

stable fiber
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yeah but on aoe

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u dont use slam

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lmao

latent moss
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ye so both have 0 value on aoe

stable fiber
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not true

latent moss
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but efficiency has a lot more on st

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robot will tell

stable fiber
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i dont even think its a lot more on st either

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"think"

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i dont THINK

latent moss
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8t 1min

stable fiber
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bloodsurge jumpscare

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how is bloodsurge 2%

latent moss
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exactly

stable fiber
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i didnt feel rage starved at all

latent moss
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my point

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its -0.3% on st

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wait i have wrong apl

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bro i need a way to store apls

stable fiber
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if i have something i need quick access to i send it to my discord alt dms

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like elvui strings

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op strategy

latent moss
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fuck i ran 8t 3min

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who cares

latent moss
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something is wrong with it

stable fiber
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is it something to do with execute

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thats the only thing i can think of

thick kelp
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smth smth swaps to the exe apl when targets reach the threshhold

latent moss
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not on aoe

thick kelp
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smth smth exe apl doesnt have a cleave line

stable fiber
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let me check smth

latent moss
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does it swap to exe on aoe too?

thick kelp
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check how it calls the lists

latent moss
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im running a sim will do

thick kelp
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the exe part needs to have a target check

latent moss
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i managed to make bloodsurge sim more by forcing it to op more

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how

thick kelp
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send me the apl

latent moss
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im telling it to spend less rage

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and its making bsurge sim more

stable fiber
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dude im checking quick sim breakdown

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(maybe fake)

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but its making the abilities hit harder

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lmao

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it has the same casts

latent moss
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idk its stupid

thick kelp
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crit crit sahur

stable fiber
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it gave me 9k dps and is making every ability hit for like 1.5-2% more

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but the same amount of casts

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even the voidclaw gained +19 dps

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wtf bruh 😭

stark siren
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hey, how are we feeling about crafting boots ? as there are no haste/crit boots in dungeons/raids is it okay or do we still prefer any other boots 289 ?

stark siren
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teach me king

stable fiber
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the CATALYST

stark siren
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YOOOO

stable fiber
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gives crit haste boots

latent moss
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i was about to send

stark siren
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THANKS KINGS 👑

stable fiber
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catalyst turns 5 of our pieces into crit haste

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unknown op tech

stark siren
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was wondering what my next upgrade on this alt could be, pogchamp!!

stable fiber
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chest/wrists/belt/legs/boots all turn into crit haste

stark siren
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and am I right, do we try to get seat gloves on M-track as bis gloves ?

thick kelp
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non

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its like 50/50

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that or spire crit haste glows

stable fiber
thick kelp
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I got spire gloves atm and seat gloves are sim loss

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when I sim for a prog fight

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the versa is just super bad

stark siren
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okay, great to know !

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damn didnt think it would be so bad, alright thanks guys ! <3

deft tiger
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Is there an addon or built in setting to track rend I always forget to reapply

deft tiger
stable fiber
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also a good source of a little bit of mastery

daring heron
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lura ring plz

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this is vs my 276 set ring

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my crit haste set ring is 289

stable fiber
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i honestly think i wasted 4 rerolls on that lura ring

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like i dont even want it now

daring heron
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4?

stable fiber
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yes

daring heron
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did you not prot loot spec it

stable fiber
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killed it twice and rerolled the wrong item twice

daring heron
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aaa

stable fiber
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uhhh

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the first week i killed it the lura weapon still simmed as bis

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so i was arms loot spec

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xdd

daring heron
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xd

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the neck was a decent upgrade over my pit hero neck

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i bonus rolled neck this week so next week is a 50/50 for ring

stable fiber
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🙏

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idk i think i just focus on npx rings

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it makes it so easy to proc reck pot since lura ring gives way too much haste

daring heron
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only problem is i dont think i can reck pot crit when i get lura ring xd

stable fiber
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yeah thats the issue with the ring

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and idk but reck pot just permanently sims higher for me now

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there are like 2 flex slots and its gloves and the 2nd ring slot (assuming first slot is npx crit/haste ring)

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everything else is locked

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lura ring better if you are lights potential wielder imo

daring heron
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idk maybe i can fix it by swapping weapons and sockets or something

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i'll worry about it when i get it

stable fiber
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if i was better with top gear i would try to optimize it more to figure out reck pot bis

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im too stupid

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also try crit effectiveness mainstat gem when you have the sockets

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it simmed slightly better and only gets better the more gear you have

daring heron
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ye i already use that gem, got full sockets now

stable fiber
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W

latent moss
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🥄 ...

austere hamlet
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why are yall hating on npx 2-set..

stable fiber
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its good

latent moss
stable fiber
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goated perhaps

daring heron
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it is good

latent moss
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u should slam > exe if <40 rage

daring heron
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but it also can randomly pull sometimes xd

austere hamlet
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no way..? havent had that happen yet I think

exotic horizon
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what is the fastest way to farm voidshard guys ?

stable fiber
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it bricked a prepull we did in a dungeon because it put me in combat with the prepull training dummy

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LMAO

latent moss
daring heron
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ye if you accidentally target something thats out of combat and it procs it'll pull it

austere hamlet
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mmh ok, so its a skill issue

daring heron
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also it's p much a single target effect

stable fiber
daring heron
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an extra socket from lura ring would do much better in aoe

stable fiber
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the 300 haste seems so overkill to me though

austere hamlet
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yy. I have a ton of haste so its not simming very well for me

daring heron
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although col prolly doesnt benefit that much from a pure haste ring

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ya

stable fiber
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it starts to go into DR numbers

austere hamlet
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also, I think sets are cool so

stable fiber
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and at DR numbers vers becomes a better stat then haste

daring heron
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adjust the rest of your gear xd

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oh thats actually true

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i can just recraft my shit from haste crit to mast crit

stable fiber
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bellamy weapon perhaps

daring heron
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can prolly still guarantee crit pot

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ye i have that too

latent moss
stable fiber
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yes

latent moss
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i guess at dr numbers it might be good

stable fiber
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ur losing the mastery on the haste mast npx ring

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gotta make it up somewhere

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and drop haste in other places

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i might try to minmax a reck pot bis list tomorrow

rare kite
stable fiber
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yeah not a fan

latent moss
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prolly npx 2set + reck vs lura ring + main stat

stable fiber
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^

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thinking its just that

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recrafting only removes 90 haste

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but you gain 130+

daring heron
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plus weapon swap

latent moss
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wait i think

daring heron
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maybe boot swap if you can

latent moss
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two ton is gonna fuck me over

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i will have more haste than crit

stable fiber
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garfrost is -60

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so that its -150

latent moss
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garfrost is haste heavy

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right

stable fiber
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heavier crit

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112 crit 60 haste

latent moss
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oh

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thank god

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my crit is like 30 higher than haste

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and i have crafted still

stable fiber
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bellamys swap could work

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  • 2 recrafts
latent moss
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290 next week

stable fiber
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dont think you need to change boots

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balance the rest out with gems

daring heron
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yeye

stable fiber
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then you get +1 socket

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which could be aoe bis

daring heron
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ya

latent moss
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its 100% aoe bis

daring heron
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annoying that you cant rly top gear reck pot

stable fiber
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twilight barrage is like

daring heron
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you get the weirdest results

stable fiber
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1k dps?

daring heron
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surely barrage isnt that big

stable fiber
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nah it is

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i would love to check wcl

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but the site is just perma bricked

daring heron
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maybe i just rly want the haste

stable fiber
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haste good for slayer

daring heron
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cause 276 haste mast set ring to 289 lura ring is 1.1k

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for me

stable fiber
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did u sim the other 289 npx ring

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cause it buffs the proc as well

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npx set is like 1k overall in a key

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.4-.5 %

daring heron
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ye it was like 750

stable fiber
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ill do all this tomorrow perhaps

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check lights potential bis list + reck pot bis list

wild fractal
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Lets say, in pack of 5 add in execute range ; should I execute + cleave or use overpower/cleave ?

wild fractal
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slayer

stable fiber
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@latent moss do you have the picture for this fella

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i dont have it

wild fractal
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I have the pic if you mean prio pic

stable fiber
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off wowhead or

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from here

wild fractal
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from here

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it says use execute if you have have rage then op but I feel like I am always high rage so I spam execute, and at the end my execute damage is too high

stable fiber
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i would use that picture as a reference sheet, but the context matters a little more, in my opinion execute is the number 1 priority ALWAYS if its a prio mob that HAS to die

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think of the big void elementals in seat before the 2nd boss

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those mobs do massive aoe and shred the party

daring heron
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sd -> exec

stable fiber
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i would prio cleave > execute on those

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other times though like those packs in algethar before vexamus where all the mobs have similar priority to die (besides the ravagers), i would do cleave > op > exe

wild fractal
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I see your point

stable fiber
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in general though i would just follow that prio sheet

wild fractal
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ty

stable fiber
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np

heady shale
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I'm trying to get slayer to work on M+. Should avatar wait for bladestorm and vice versa or send it on CD?

stable fiber
wild fractal
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another questions is I follow aoe at 3+ target right on 2 target I follow ST rotation

latent moss
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ye

stable fiber
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if i have crazy BS rng and have a sub 30 second BS rng i will send it with my next cs without avatar

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which might be wrong technically but i hate holding that button

latent moss
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i dont care about avatar

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i just make sure its aligned with cs

stable fiber
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yeah i think thats right

latent moss
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i never hold cs

latent moss
heady shale
latent moss
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i was playing short meta until now

stable fiber
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why...

latent moss
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idk i thought more meta=better for timewalking

stable fiber
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no

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short meta is only good on mythic lura

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otherwise its awful on everything else

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even leveling

latent moss
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this creature...

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will rise...

stable fiber
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hey you hit the big number

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turn in the delve quests

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  • prof xp
latent moss
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didnt do delves

stable fiber
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well they are too hard for you now

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gg

balmy kindle
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Ddh monkahmm

latent moss
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are they?

stable fiber
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no i lied

latent moss
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i swear i did them at 87 on my ret

stable fiber
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you can go do all delves and hit 90 pretty easily

latent moss
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or 86

deft tiger
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question do cleave and heroic strike proc separately cuz sometimes i see cleave only proc ?

stable fiber
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another reason why fob is the most goated talent in the game

deft tiger
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yeah but cleaves sometimes only proc

stable fiber
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it shouldnt

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i dont think cleave it coded as a st spell

barren void
deft tiger
barren void
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After a certain amount of hits with sweeping strikes you get buff on cleave that makes it glow

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Heroic strike has nothing to do with that

deft tiger
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ok thanks

barren void
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Cleave glow is just increased damage

deft tiger
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but not prio when ms glows right or exc

barren void
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On aoe cleave is always prio

deft tiger
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am running the gem thats gives .15% dmg on crit with eagle enchants is that good call ?

stable fiber
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actually better

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but you need to have all 4 gem colors equipped for it to work

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cant just be 1 color

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if you dont have enough sockets then just use the normal main stat gem

deft tiger
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and what enchants

stable fiber
#

eyes of the eagle are bis

#

always

latent moss
#

eyes of the eagle

stable fiber
#

so you already have them

deft tiger
#

is that good should i increase the mast and reduce the crit

latent moss
#

sim

deft tiger
#

ok thank you guys alot

hasty pumice
wild fractal
#

I only play m+ how should I sim my stat or gear ?

latent moss
#

st 3min 8t 1min

wild fractal
#

ty

rustic igloo
#

Can anyone tell me what colossus arms funnel is coming from??

elder zodiac
#

and demolish CDR tied to MS/cleave

rustic igloo
#

many thanks!

latent moss
#

many things

#

2 of the 3 biggest are mentioend above ye

#

3rd big is tierset

sacred zodiac
#

another niche removed from warrior

#

🔮

latent moss
#

id be fine with a fob nerf and a ms buff

#

though that would hurt slayer a lot

#

although a ms buff would probably push it high in prio

#

would also have to be a very big ms buff

dark sparrow
#

18 seat, fury or arms :S heeeeelp

latent moss
#

arms

sacred zodiac
#

arms for everything wowie

dark sparrow
#

slaaaay?

wet current
#

since last update, my CS, avatar, and demolish never line up after the first couple of times. it feels so out of whack. is it just me or do others feel this? it's like a clock that's not in sync anymore. I've only played arms since dragonflight and this feels the most odd feeling a rotation. I've just completely lost my groove with arms. on Big first pulls of a mythic by time i hit everything, other classes are already doing 400k and I'm just getting started and only get into the 200/300k. my overall dps at end of runs isn't terrible but I'm ending around 100k to 110k at ilvl 277. why i come here crying is you look at archon and other sites and arms are listed near top, but unfortunately not in my hands lol

latent moss
#

slayer is safer

#

colo requires pulling around

sacred zodiac
latent moss
#

cooking first crafts

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for xp

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or does it need to be a real profession

sacred zodiac
#

you are asking the man who has one level 90 character

latent moss
#

truth nuke...

sacred zodiac
#

100k is also insanely low even for the low ish ilvl youre at

latent moss
#

yeah 100k is very low

sacred zodiac
#

i dont think theres an up to date video guide but you can probably check wowhead basics again and maybe watch a critcake/biz vod of the spec you're interested in

latent moss
#

sounds more like a rotation problem

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are u pressing cleave on cd and ms on cd

sacred zodiac
#

i played paladins on wed after like a week of only playing slayer and i forgor i was meant to ms

latent moss
#

gg

#

-9 trillion dps

sacred zodiac
#

literally doubled dps on pull when i rmeembered for next pull

wet current
#

skyreach leading up to the boss by time we're at second pack avatar and cs are no longer aligned

latent moss
#

alignment doesnt matter

wet current
#

first boss

latent moss
#

shit will desync

#

u never press avatar without cs

#

u never press ravager without cs

wet current
#

ok well there go

latent moss
#

u dont need to sync avatar and ravager they will be desynced usually

#

demolish should align for the most part

#

generally u either open on the pull with 10 stacks

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or if u re 0

wet current
#

so just start holding everything for cs

latent moss
#

send demo instantyl

#

builindg up to 10 is a loss

#

on pull

#

if u have 0 colossal might stacks like first pull of a dung

#

send demolish first

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then spend cleaves/ms etc

wet current
#

ok ty I'll hit the dummies some

latent moss
#

for me from 0 stacks

#

i cs->demo

#

i get demo back before cs expires on main target

silent kestrel
#

Anyone have a link to a good video /guide for beginning on arms?

latent moss
#

and cs is on a 15 ish second cd

wet current
#

if demo is off cd before cs, do I hold it for ca

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cs

latent moss
#

depends

#

if cs is <10s cd

wet current
#

ok ty

#

do i use cleave in mythic+ on single target as well?

latent moss
#

no

#

wowhead has the rotation

#

for both aoe and st

wet current
#

ty

misty zenith
#

we still just colo on m+ yeah or has slayer come good again

latent moss
#

slayer just as good

#

more flexible profile

misty zenith
#

i was playing slayer pre .5 will give it another go 🙂

misty zenith
#

cheers appreciate it

fiery inlet
#

is not having skyfury for a dungeon just a swap to fury? or do we have a build that isn't as cooked?

golden smelt
#

I tend to just swap to fury, the rage starving gets me maaad

latent moss
#

cleave>op with 2x opp>sd>ms with tactical edge up>op>ms>exe

#

in aoe

#

on st same as regular

#

just be more conservative with exe

#

basically opp op>exe if high rage>op>exe

#

kha tried it in a real key and did good damage and never had rage issues

#

without shaman

#

with shaman this build is worse than the massacre ct default

untold pewter
#

I thought we just MS at 2EP regardless of CS

latent moss
#

only with mp talented

cosmic totem
#

do we need minimum versa % or its fine if i have 0%?

latent moss
#

its fine

latent moss
#

but tactical edge is basically up while cs is up

#

its top prio so u will spend it quickly

cosmic totem
#

but i saw people adding versa gems maybe the reason for pot usage so u lose ur versa % not mastery ?

ionic mica
#

but no we do not care about vers, can just do what your sim recommends

cosmic totem
#

u mean powerful eversong diamond?

ionic mica
#

but that again is just a sim question, if it sims better than Indecipherable Eversong Diamond + all crit haste gems

cosmic totem
#

im asking because my warrior acting weird after i change the last items that have versa and went with 0 versa

ionic mica
#

whats weird? if its a sim that surprises you, you can link it here

feral breach
#

Do you suddenly start dying because you miss that 1% dr

cosmic totem
#

lol no

latent moss
uneven minnow
#

I did decent last night in my trial for new guild methinks 🙂

#

obvs the turbo boost of 27 ilvl from ascendanct voidcores helped

snow eagle
#

what is the difference between mace 2M craft wapeon and sword 2M craft?

feral breach
#

None

weak rain
tranquil moth
#

are these stats ok for warrior arms for raid?

brave silo
#

looks fine

#

sim stuff if you need

vapid sable
latent moss
#

@thick kelp the horror

vapid sable
#

yeah ok, I saw the name was collossus war and I was like, aint no way thats collosus rotation wth

latent moss
#

collapsing star top 1 global oat

vapid sable
#

do you have one of those for colossus? :P

latent moss
#

wowhead has it

latent moss
uneven minnow
# latent moss

ganna need a ban from this discord on this user, warrior is clearly #1 always and i will not accept anything showing otherwise

craggy timber
#

hey guys sorry if this is common knowledge, does someone know how much of a DPS gain is the skyfury shaman buff?

viscid mica
#

not expert but i guess depends on build but sim it and see for yourself

potent reef
#

It's definitely at least 6

craggy timber
#

yeah guess i'll sim it but ty anyways ❤️

toxic osprey
#

Do we have a "cap" for secondary stats in arms ? Ive got 38% in crit with flask, 23% haste and 14% mastery and when i check some people, they have way more mastery (don't have gaze yet so i'm missing some mastery)

flat willow
#

there's no cap, every stats' value change depending on all the others so you have to sim every piece, in your case you probably have too much crit for slayer and should sim the haste flask

toxic osprey
#

ok ty

uneven minnow
#

every raid should have every buff

toxic osprey
#

Can change the stats on my crafted ring for haste - mastery instead of crit so i was wondering + change some gems, doing a lot of different sims but it's quite overwhelming at some point when you're not familiar with it haha

deft bluff
#

Ey warrior got play in mdi??

steep walrus
#

Did heroic lura last night. Was parsing so well until the kill. On the kill I was one of 2 people in the same spot that got the p2 soak. I made a decision to hero leap across to the empty spot so we didn't wipe. I think since that was so unexpected I just had a brain fart, saw the line for the planets coming back, and instead of thinking GTFO my brain thought MUST SOAK and I got hit by a planet. We ended up killing that pull. Feels bad but at the same time kind of feels good. I had pulled so many times without something like that happening I was basically auto piloting the script and that change just really threw me off. About 4 weeks into raiding now so hopefully in the future I can adapt better.

echo ibex
#

Does anybody know What the condition for OP reset is? 🤔

feral breach
sacred zodiac
echo ibex
#

Thanks!🙏

valid rampart
#

what is prio for slayer massacre build?

pulsar berry
#

heroic crown rankings

#

how did this happen did i accidentally find an exploit LMAO

#

not that i'm a bad player but i have no idea how I could have cleared the next highest arms player by 60k dps

#

for scale i have no recollection of doing anything out of the ordinary on this fight, besides that we practically skipped p2 by lusting there and just exploding the simulacrum

thorn stream
#

Did you have a good p1 ?

pulsar berry
#

according to the log i came out of p1 at 196k dps

thorn stream
#

So you went from 196k pretty much to execute according to you saying you guys skipped p2 ?

pulsar berry
#

yeah just about I suppose

#

the gap still seems like borderline not believable but I guess that makes sense

#

since the intermissions don't count in your logs dps anymore

thorn stream
#

Maybe I just have a thinking error - didn’t do heroic crown for a while
But that might be it

#

Your fight is also 2 minutes shorter because of that ig

pulsar berry
#

yeah I guess that's basically it is just that p2 and p3 literally only lasted like one cooldown rotation

#

and I had a good enough p1

thorn stream
#

So you did carry over more of your p1 dmg

#

Yeah my thoughts

#

Congrats anyway

untold talon
#

Guys, what do I increase with the cide forge first? the weapon no

#

void*

uncut cave
#

if i have a mythic 1/6 2h weapon and craft a mythic 2h weapon, can i upgrade my 1/6 for free to 5/6? or does it lvl them up seperately like rings/trinkets?

flat willow
#

you can upgrade for free cuz it's a 2 hander

#

if it was a 1 hander, you'd have to pay twice like rings and trinkets

marsh thistle
#

should I send ravager on CD in M+ keys?

uncut cave
flat willow
#

you can cast it at the start of a boss fight but you shouldn't send it when the boss is already low or you might not have it for the next pack

dire hinge
buoyant axle
#

ayyy fury guy here, i kinda have rage issues on 5 dummies when i press MS over overpower when MS is not buffed by battlelord (ofc as colossus) rota on wowhead says MS over OP no matter what so is rage starving normal on 5dummies? is shaman buff just required to not starve? or am i doin something wrog

rose matrix
#

First pull AA is the ultimate troll for slarms

nova marsh
latent moss
#

nah u do good dmg on big lashers

rose matrix
#

Yeah ik

nova marsh
#

Na man

rose matrix
#

But we look like ass in it

nova marsh
#

Fuck the overalls

rose matrix
#

Even though we aren't

nova marsh
#

Lashers need to fucking die

#

I could do single target level damage and not care

#

as long as lashers get vaporized and the pull is complete

buoyant axle
rose matrix
#

The breakdown for the first boss is always crazy too

#

Usually bottom for damage but like 50-60k higher st

latent moss
nova marsh
#

Yeah cuz other classes can do disgusting pad

rose matrix
#

It's honestly kinda sad too

#

Because if they didn't pad so hard it would be more boss damage

latent moss
nova marsh
ionic mica
#

its for recovering skyfury addicts

latent moss
#

the best non sky fury arms build

#

kha did a 20 with it and liked it

nova marsh
#

Slayer?

buoyant axle
#

sry slayer arms doesnt feel to good to me

latent moss
#

have fun losing 10% dps on st and aoe i guess

buoyant axle
#

just playing 2nd warrior for fun, no biggie

nova marsh
#

Is the rage actually okay?

latent moss
#

with the build i linked

#

yes

#

u never starve

nova marsh
#

so the answer was tacti talents

rose matrix
#

What do you guys think

#

Slayer or colossu for seat

nova marsh
#

Colossus

#

By a mile

rose matrix
#

That's what I was thinking

latent moss
#

nah both are fine

nova marsh
#

Yes but consider

buoyant axle
#

both fine, go colossus and switch slayer for last boss

nova marsh
#

Colossus fucking deletes second boss

latent moss
#

so does slayer?

rose matrix
#

Not like Colossus tho

nova marsh
#

But my demo crits are LETSGOOO

latent moss
potent reef
latent moss
#

humble 290k as slayer

nova marsh
#

For third boss?

latent moss
#

colo does like 310 there max

#

dont worry one of them will leap away and u wont get 3t value

latent moss
nova marsh
#

Yes

#

as in

#

You did 290k on third boss of seat

latent moss
#

2nd

nova marsh
#

yes second sorry

flat willow
latent moss
#

3t as arms

#

its just arms at 3r

flat willow
#

the best strategy when you don't have a skyfury slave is to hop on your unholy alt

#

that is more geared than your main cuz he got free crests

nova marsh
#

Ew

nova marsh
#

I'd rather play outlaw

rose matrix
#

To swap last boss seat you just use your dungeon port right

nova marsh
#

or fury

nova marsh
#

But

#

U gotta change out vet vitality before dungeon for no stranger to pain

#

otherwise it'll be on cd

flat willow
#

the only enh player in the world

nova marsh
#

Enhance 🙁

flat willow
#

and you made him roll dev dh

latent moss
#

or u just play slayer until u somehow deplete due to dmg output and not due to damage intake

flat willow
#

poor guy

latent moss
#

bro its insane

#

got like

#

7 or 8 stars

#

lusted

#

gg

latent moss
# latent moss

dont be surprised when u see this creature timing big keys...

#

have to do it just so that people can go to raiderio and see uwuxalatath...

potent reef
#

Real talk that build is actually gonna make me want to play arms again

#

Holy shit

latent moss
#

did u try it or

potent reef
#

Just on a dummy atm, but the feel alone is so much nicer

flat willow
#

I'm gonna make a post on the forums about poor arms players being forced to play disgusting builds cuz no skyfury

#

surely blizzard will listen

potent reef
#

Wanted to play arms so much I transmogged my 2nd wep to a fist wep keks

latent moss
#

yeah it feels good and does good dmg

#

and is more consistent

#

bit less rng

nova marsh
#

honestly

#

anything for less rng for arms at this point is a win for me

potent reef
#

It's either this or multibox an enhance as onebutton in all my keys

nova marsh
#

elemental

potent reef
#

I exclusively play melee, none of that caster bullshit thank you sir

minor gust
#

Simply just don't sign up to a key without a shaman or always make your own grp and grab a shaman

nova marsh
#

fair enough

potent reef
#

That doesn't sound very Warrior, needing another class

flat willow
#

that sounds the most warrior

#

since vanilla warrior is probably the class that is the weakest alone

#

well aside from that one time in mop

potent reef
#

😔

nova marsh
#

Yeah but like

#

I think the skyfury situation is atrocious

latent moss
#

arent warriors

#

just

potent reef
#

It's a word beginning with R that I'm not allowed to say because it gets me banned on reddit

latent moss
#

haha ure a pussy and I'm not so i will go and die for some greater good

nova marsh
#

No?

#

Warriors don't need to care about some greater good, that shit is paladin

#

Warrior is just "BIG SWORD, ME HIT"

torn rivet
#

no, warriors are like orcs. if they don't fight, they die

latent moss
#

i mean they get told its Honorable

torn rivet
latent moss
#

so they go and die

flat willow
#

warriors are the guys that go die because it's fun

potent reef
#

Tbh "you're a pussy and I'm not so I will go and die" is spot on

flat willow
#

that's why all the warrior characters are dead

nova marsh
potent reef
#

Greater good eeeh, greater fun

latent moss
#

i meant more like

#

they are willing to sacrifice themselves

candid kindle
#

And blizzard made sure they die quick making the class so ass so they do indeed die

latent moss
#

way more than others

#

cause its honorable

potent reef
#

In that way yeah, not wrong

rose matrix
latent moss
#

truth nuke...

flat willow
#

the exact opposite of these damn death knights doing 2M dps on the first pull of algethar...

#

while we carry the weight of killing the prio targets

latent moss
#

ret players taking about the 2 mil execution sentence

#

the humble 300k hs

#

for 3 globals in a row

#

the humble 300k cleave

silk spade
#

youre full aoeing to get that sentence tho

rose matrix
#

Unholy honestly still goes hard on lashers in that pull though

#

And they don't lose any hits really because of the swirlies

latent moss
#

wdym full aoe

#

thats the crazy part about arms funnel

#

ure doing max aoe rotation

silk spade
#

most people dont understand how ES works

hasty pumice
#

@latent moss is this a good overall for mt21?

latent moss
#

goated change tho icl

latent moss
#

arms abuser

hasty pumice
#

slayer btw

#

i died twice back to back on 3rd boss like a moron

latent moss
#

how much on last boss

hasty pumice
#

105k

#

had to move out a ton

latent moss
#

gg

hasty pumice
#

and i dont trust charge

#

charge can kill you there sometimes

#

randomly charging into tether

latent moss
#

ye classic charge

#

i remember charging on zskarn

#

and it randomly paths u through all the traps

#

W game

latent moss
silk spade
#

90 degree charge on ulgrax into stunning yourself with a web

latent moss
#

i always hated having to make that decision between which to take

silk spade
latent moss
#

i have no idea what im typing im mega tired

latent moss
#

20% or sum

rose matrix
#

I am scared every time I charge through gale surge in sr

latent moss
#

love warrior cause it almost always has a way to bullshit out of a mechanic

#

and thats the only fun part about dk

#

amsing mechanics

minor gust
#

Me when I spin through the incoming wall on last boss spire for some reason taking no dmg

latent moss
#

oh look gargoyle in pit

#

the humble charge with relentless pursuit

tropic lodge
#

is berserker rage removing roots? Just saw pilav doing maisara cavern and ragequit it because he got rooted into altar and died. I am curious if he could berserker rage it?

latent moss
#

no

rose matrix
#

Nope

#

It should

latent moss
#

its a root

rose matrix
#

But it doesn't

latent moss
#

it shouldn't

rose matrix
#

Why not

carmine tartan
#

warrior is like the only class in the game that cant remove roots

runic rock
#

is slayer the play now in mythic plus?

latent moss
#

can play whatever u want

tropic lodge
#

alright, thanks for info all

thick kelp
#

t

#

smh

minor gust
rose matrix
#

I know

#

I mean why should it not remove roots

carmine tartan
#

they even removed the root break from avatar

latent moss
#

u should be able to charge out as slayer

carmine tartan
#

such a mindboggling decision

minor gust
#

Charge out or meld

#

Ez pz

thick kelp
#

Slayer in MC

#

game game game

tropic lodge
thick kelp
flat willow
rose matrix
#

Playing pit as Colossus with the gargoyles is like gambling

flat willow
#

best racial in the game for 10 years now

rose matrix
#

Will it delete my demolish or not?

latent moss
#

and best race

tropic lodge
flat willow
#

worst race

minor gust
#

Play slayer in pit and never worry

latent moss
#

play slayer and never worry

minor gust
#

Yep

latent moss
#

no funnel

tropic lodge
#

I still dont know if its act for stream or he is really that manbaby and suck at warrior

latent moss
#

100k st

#

no skyfury

minor gust
#

Just play slayer always

latent moss
#

the curse

#

has an answer to everything

#

oh no a mechanic on me

#

charge

#

gg

minor gust
#

Perks of having a useless defensive node with death drive. You get an op one like relentless pursuit

slow saddle
thick kelp
#

u can with the talent

tropic lodge
#

he was the other hero talent yeah

languid torrent
#

like the circle

#

or the first adds in seat?

short crescent
#

I cannot seem to get solid dmg on my M Chim pulls, any general tips?

rose matrix
#

I rather do anything but fight the 3rd boss in Seat

vivid current
short crescent
#

Go slayer rather than colo then?

vivid current
#

100%

finite cradle
#

hey gamers

slayer - arms - cleave really takes its full priority spot in the rotation on 3+ targets right? not on 2?

cus on 2 you're prob just doin single target priority with sweeping strikes?

vivid current
#

Correct

finite cradle
#

thx

vivid current
#

You can throw in cleaves with 3 stacks of collateral damage as filler though

finite cradle
#

Ahhh that makes sense

#

Just picked up arms for the first time in years, it's pretty fuckin cool rn imo

#

A lot more complicated than I ever played it on tho

vivid current
#

It’s really fun rn big fan

finite cradle
#

ya this is sick

#

practicing in follower dungeons rn so i dont suck ass in a real pt

wintry scroll
#

guys is it normal that i'm being mogged by ww

#

are they new broken aoe class

radiant dawn
#

they should pull a lot more damage under cooldowns but im not sure if they should be beating you on overall

wintry scroll
#

i had some downtime due to handling interrupts but damn

#

slayer

#

not colossus i think on colossus i would've won

radiant dawn
#

might just be a slayer diff

wintry scroll
#

but i felt like sometimes packs would die too quickly

radiant dawn
#

or this guy is zooted as fuck and is just mogging you