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so for aoe colossus smash > cleave > opportunist?
opportunist is a slayer buff whenever tactician procs
my bad aoe colossus smash > sudden death exe > cleave > opportunist
you probably mean overpower
i just hate that opportunist buff
big same
nah hs always top prio
You're sending oppurtunist op over execute in the m+ build?
like there are so many times that i have both sudden death and opportunist light up.
Charge rend. Cds so ava cmash. Bladestorm. 3 cleave. SD if proc. Op cleave etc ez pz
Exe if high rage or less then 2 ep if at 35
actions.slayer_execute+=/mortal_strike,if=buff.executioners_precision.stack=2&(talent.martial_prowess|!talent.martial_prowess&debuff.colossus_smash.up)|debuff.colossus_smash.up&talent.battlelord
actions.slayer_execute+=/overpower,if=buff.opportunist.up&talent.opportunist
actions.slayer_execute+=/overpower,if=talent.fierce_followthrough&!buff.battlelord.up&rage<80
actions.slayer_execute+=/execute,if=rage>40|buff.sudden_death.up
actions.slayer_execute+=/overpower
actions.slayer_execute+=/execute,if=talent.improved_execute
like can i just drop this god awfull opportunist and get mortal strike buff? god i hate it when sd oportunist and hs all lgiht up at the same time
I just vibe play tbh
same
I could be a lot more optimal but like im just pumping so idrc
Id like to imagine exe doing more anyways. Slayer is the exe vibe imo
Ima judt click it on cd when i can. Idrc
Do yall just spam execute in duungs or what
I mean to a point. Exe do a lot on. Bosses as well
Exe usually my top 3 dps. Should be my 1 or 2 tho
I thought AoE is Exe on SD > OP > MS with 2 EP > Exe ?
Cleave. SD op ms
oh
You even send rend before ms at 5+
Well exe apparently over op when at 35 if high rage and or less then 2 ep
I honestly dont and wont
cleave > sd or exe if <2 stacks of ep or high rage > op > rend > ms
Idc. Doesnt sound right to me
I don't really either tbh
I will only rend on reapply
But it's better
Idc about its optimization
I dont think
What does ! stand for in apl
ty
Im excited to spam exe over op in aoe im ngl
ST rota still is the same tho ye
Gonna drain all my rage and not care
outside of exe
if we don't press ms in aoe do we wait when cleave on cd, no sd procs, no op charges?
I mean
If cleave is on cd. Click op. When op is on cd click ms then slam probably
Or rend
Or whatever
So wait you don’t press ms with 2 stacks u just keep spamming exe?
is dungeon slice good for simming for m+?
No
Slightly better but exe still seems so weak man
pit 16 for testing purposes
Is the first pull of AA just ass for arms ir
Like, if i play colo i cant hit good demolish hits. And on slayer i also have downtime bc of sporadic movement
No its grest
Greatest
If tank is good
Its a decently harsh pull 2 manage as tank
Make sure u kill a lasher super fast tbh more importsnt than overall kill of pack
Ye i usually try but they kite weirdly so idk
Ppl also seem more focussed on aoe rather than prio dmg
Kite in a line and you’ll be fine
your overall wont be as high as some classes but you are pretty good at nuking a vile lasher
whichi s the important mob
I mean rets wanna mass aoe for funnel
To lasher. So make sure 1 is marked
Make all kill, ans have a class that can remove bleed
Dwarf 
II feel the same way as Slayer, most other classes leave me in the dust
The problem with the first pull in AA is that 99% of tanks don't know how to play it
Which fucks us more than other specs
If your tank needs to kite you might as well go next
Focusing on raw aoe is how you wipe that pull
Ngl
Why are the 3400 mounts so ugly wtf
As someone with a fresh alt, should I send all bonus rolls in pit for 6 myth track pieces or hold out for 3x mythic dreamrift what we think?
Well you would be able to send all 6 rolls in a day ans get 6x myth pieces rn today in however long it takes to do 6 pits at 10 or higher level. Or you would have to rng mythic dreamrift either once or twice at most 2 weeks
PIT PIT PIT PIT PIT PIT
I'm curious about the conditions of using only the excute at the timing of the excute in the shymk after the patch and sometimes using the stroke of the transcription
What
the guides are updated, but assuming you're talking about Executing as Slayer in a Mythic+ build, you should prioritize
- Heroic Strike
- Mortal Strike @ 2 Executioner's Precisions during Colossus Smash
- Sudden Death
- Overpower
- regular Execute
if you don't have Colossus Smash active, skip Mortal Strike entirely
if you have Skyfury, you can prioritize normal Executes at high rage above Overpower, but without Skyfury you're gonna starve
Run +10 keys.. easier to find groups. I did a mistake and used my first bonus roll in +11 key. Wasn’t easy to find 6 more +11 keys 😂
Which interaction does CS have with MS? Except from the basic 30% bonus ofc
Tier extension
Yes
hello, what trinkets i should mainly focus on and which dg is best to spend bonus rolls? just finished arms yesterday so now gearing phase hh
big thx
Raid trinkets (bis): Heart of Ancient Hunger from Vorasius & Gaze of the Alnseer from Chimaerus
Dungeons: Solarflare Prism (Skyreach) & Heart of Wind (Windrunner Spire)
Best dungeon for bonus roll is Pit of Saron almost every item is amazing (including catalyzing slots into tier pieces) and also BiS weapon there
ok bis weapon is a big thing, thx alot
just one small question, i dont believe to get gaze, i feel like heart is "slightly" easier to get, with which other trinket would you comb it? HoW or Prism? Thx
Why do you think you cant get gaze
Its a trivial Boss to pug and a 1/3 to bonus roll
cuz i have done it like 15 times over all my characters and i didnt even get close to get it on any of them 😄
oh, pc performance, I thought he was talking about player performance
Use your bonus rolls.
Do we still generally lean towards Colossus over slayer for m+ except for certain keys like AA?
this is wrong on method site right? 16 crest in a 12?
yeah it is 16
pushing 17-18s now i feel in a fixed group colo has more value ? the AOE is really good
slayer does have benefits in keys like nexus though, or in any comp where you need boss dmg
The lusted slayer opener in m+ is a thing of beauty on ST
for sure, feels nice to actually feel like you are doing smth in bosses
Colo can never do even close to that
also on higher keys massacre has huge value
Unless tank pulls mobs for you
I might start running slayer for everything just cuz I pug
^^ on my pos 18 so touched when tank pulled mobs for funnel
And pugs usually suck on bosses
ive been going slayer on my alt but ive been wary of the new massacre build, does it not get clunky without battlelord?
not really because u dont press MS much
even with the 4set?
Thanks lads, appreciate the thinking points
just did a 17 as slayer and the prio dam felt nice with my groups comp
yea because cleave op and sudden death procs / exe become prior
you only hit MS when u have 2 EP
and cs is up
guys as arms in pvp to apply rend should i clap or use rend? i wanna have 1 less bar to press overall
rend is a stupid attack to use i hope when we get e rework they remove it
I need to fix some common errors I think I make to my rotation; do I always save Bladestorm to be lined up with collosus smash? (slayer m+ build)
are sudden death procs rng?
yes
mc slayer or colo
Always colo
Arms Slayer just uses Mortal Strike with 2 EP in execute now in single target builds, or 2 EP & CS in AoE builds.
what is CS?
and I see some people use execute talents for slayer in m+ and some into bloodborne + battlelord, that changes your execute rotation too?
Colossus smash
Guides say yes
Thanks
Trying to evaluate my log. Is there anyway of detecting Battlelord procs?
shows up on buffs
Am I cooking too hard, thinking of going massacre build for VS drags proge. we dont have bdk. 🤔 E: Simmed it, dogshit idea better to go COL 2 target build for pure boss dmg
THATS A JUICY ONE EXILE
1 roll left this week, ring hat and weapon left to get
I see the wowhead now puts haste/mastery bracery above crit/haste bracer - does this actually matter or is it like a .002% change?
Hi guys, for mm+18-19, we can play colossus for Skyreach and academy?
With buff slayer, slayer better colossus? thx
cuz I mean, I ain't getting a mythic l'ura axe or midnight falls since my guild fell apart and I'm looking to trial for rest of tier 🙁
Depends on group tbh, if boss damage is good play whatever. If boss damage lacks play slayer. Keys propably will only fail on slow boss kill time
Especially in AA
Thanks for answer ❤️
I had to double take cuz ur pfp is the same as one of my guildies from classic lol
If pugging i would just spam slayer every key :D
slayer comfy, colossus not comfy 😠
Do you have any form of gathering for the orbs? Colo 2t boss damage is very good and you'll probably get a lot of FoB cleaves if the orbs aren't tightly gathered
If anything could be extra boss damage
as slayer do you also prio execute over MS on aoe or only on ST?
2 stack ms > execute
aoe is 2 stack ms > 0-1 stack ms > execute
Is the buff called Battlelord? Ctrl + F search gives nothing over a 5 minute fight.
Can you post the log
Ngl, 88 parse on king hc first time killing the boss, without good trink is very good for me
And 80 on beloren
heroic? or myth?
Heroic first time
going from not killing saladbar to him, dragons, and belo screams hero to me
And didnt play slayer atnall
gotcha
congrats 😄
I was just like wtf how'd u go from not killing saladbar to him, dragons, and belo in 1 log
First time i paid boost when i was 270 ilv to have hcs to get invited, honestly
And belo i killed after i did the raid with pug
I would recommend using the wow recruitment discord if you're interested in doing heroic, there should be a good amount of guilds looking for people to play in heroic still I imagine
It was good with pugs too, after 1 wipe people left but only dps and we found fast others
I joined a guild now, its new, and i hope we will do great things
noice
Heres the log. I also put up a post under help-log-review. Appericiate the help
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Ax92JFykG3dfqXYV?fight=1&type=damage-done&source=13
I feel like I barely got any tactician procs. Would like to check Battlelord as well. Not happy with how the fight went, just trying to understand.
Yes I am aware, I meant check Battlelord as well as in to see wether or not I was unfortunate with Battlelord procs
there's no 'buff' for battlelord as far as I can see
Well that resolves that mystery lol
Arent I the stupid one. Thanks
Indeed
hey whats the best way for us to sim shit? the usual 5min 5 targ good?
what kind of damage are colo arms doing on final boss of AA
nexus, slayer or colossus
pick one and play it
for mythic paladins - cleave only when all 3 in range or always
Okay this slayer iteration is actually mega fun. Doing almost double my boss dmg from colossal and still melting prio targets in pull just less pad
3 in range = on cd, 2 = cleave when your cleave has max stack
thanks kindly
Slayer has a lot of qol coz it can remove circles 3 different ways
But higher keys u do feel slayer is less defensive
I'm feeling pretty comfortable with arms in M+, but my raid dps is not feeling great, any tips for that?
press buttons
How have I used an odd amount of myth crests? I haven't downgraded any :I
getting weird numbers from keys
but that doesn't use the crests?
thats collected so far not spent
I've collected 658 -> I have 8 -> means it's telling me I've spent 650
but idk how'd I spend 10 without downgrading any
alt got achivement for half price upgrades?
nope its my main
maybe u upgraded hero crest to myth?
but then I'd have 18 instead of 650 no?
i guess yeah idk how many that upgrade gives
30 hero to 10 myth
Delve shenanigans?
maybe nullaeus 30 crests counts as 10 used for some reason?
delve should be the same way I think?
idk its blizz w.e
now that i think about it
i spent
790 crests
but thats cause nullaeus i think? cause i have 10 left
Started pushing keys again yesterday
2 hours in u have no idea what anything is or means
6/8 done for +19 resil gg
AA and WS to go, not looking forward to AA
I mean, it should be
nah its not bad anymore
After the latest nerf the timer isnt bad
you can say ass
NPX is worse
mini boss low cortisol gameplay
flexing my 0 cd defensivesd
love dstance sr-ing the knock
doing high level keys could not be me holy moly
Is that enough to live in a 19?
theres no risk
meanwhile in 13 AA I'm getting 70% hp chunked by the arcane boss mana bombs
Do people find arms easier to succeed with then fury? I’m playing fury and it’s super simple but I find that it’s so fast that I’m constantly looking at what’s available to press and missing mechanics
ye in high keys u just dstance and stance mastery does the rest
what a broken defensive lol
yeee
Is it better to send a opportunist op in aoe over exe at high rage?
arms to me feels a lot simpler than fury @plush anchor
first boss magistesr
it also doesn't have procs that you don't use
Just press SR lol
need sr to ignore dmg from wyrms dying
ah well
slayer prio
colossus prio
That's not even correct
I am aware of the rotation on wowhead
Whenever tank pulls wyrms in pug theyre nuked within seconds
Instead of actually using the funnel
we pull them for funnel on burn phase
Pug tanks not smart enough for that
I hate the word funnel (it reminds me of bad times in league)
lmao what
what do they funnel in? the 2 packs in front and 1 to the right?
u para the necrolyte
which on eis the deathwhisper
and pull the 0 hp mobs
Thats nasty
138k is diabolical
cleave poggers
imagine slam/hs could apply the fkin bleed
bad
Why did he play Slayer in Pit anyway
to try it
Probably testing it out still
for me solarflare was outsimming gaze at equal ilvl
but that sim was ages ago
gaze has weird scaling
at 298 its bis at 289 it isnt
Sounds low af for funnel
skyreach does have gloves too hmmmm
real
just pug chim
surely there's not a huge trade off for not doing windrunner spire gloves
and just doing crit mast gloves instead of crit mast boots off chim
saaaaaaaaaame
can't fuck up rotation harder if I don't use puzzlebox
should pug chim and roll for gaze
rn i got myth heart and hero gaze
should roll for gaze imo
ig using rolls on chim isn't too terrible
im finally free from raid rolls
roll as prot spec and just hope i go gaze + gloves
sent 2 rolls on pit already
you have 6/6 myth eye of midnight ?
and 6/6 axe? 😛
no and im never gonna have them
rip
and eye of midnight requires
mickey mouse restatting
to be bis
and its barely bis
yeah the bis thing seems scuffed
'acquire the 2 hardest to acquire items' for bis
wheres the damn reasonable bis list
and its not bis for colo and im playing both
Slayer or Colossus better for MC?
bis lists that is
Colossus
its wild to me that bis lists are better implemented in classic than retail
but probably has to do with the sim basis of retail
I need to start sending on vora next reset 
bis lists on retail exist
cause there are people who dont wanna sim for whatever reason
does classic not have actual weird items that make a bis list make sense? in retail some crit or haste difference isnt going to break anything
vs cantrip weirdness
ye
retail who cares about a list just get stuff and sim it
classic has 45 buffs to abuse xd
The cantrip in retail isnt even that big like the gloves
but its the "same" game so people want a bis list for retail as well
whats NP?
Nerubar Palace
the trinkets?
I just want to be free from raid trinks. I need heart then I dont havw to touch raid ever again unless guild wants
Is Shame since ei havw to pug it
The neck had insane value
I got lucky, we killed vorasius the week before we started dying to roster boss
2 dropped and went to the warr tank and me 🙂
I thought that would be the case but saw on r.io that the best timed ones with arms were using Slayer so was wondering why
I miss old collateral
I remember those juicy cleaves with all cds ravager and a stacked collateral
Guild has the rroster problem but mainly the skill issue problem
Got lucky on dreamrift got it the very first night of turboboost
Both are played apparently, I did expect it to be full of col
Then just haven't bothered getting heart till now. But its the last actual good bis item I need
Besides that I only need legs and boots then im full bis
everyone did ngl
I mean that dungeon does everything col wants
Slayer pumps
1st boss 2T
but slayer is much better than expected
Slayer buffs good. Ms buff when
jesus christ people asking 10-20k for a craft now in trade, what is going on lol
Rage gen buffs when
change the max rage +30 talent to min rage 30 :angri:
go into trade and type LFC and link ur item
I want to always be angry!
Doesnt even allow you to click exe once lol
well the way I see it, it lets you use infinite 30 rage rather than being unusable
😛
No
hoooooly breakdown
Only like Autos give rage or whagever
That looks like insane reap rng
Well ye. If reap is top fps or doing 40m its very rng lucky
reap does insane dmg
Its kinda nice seeing a even damage spread then just 40% cleave
But its not consistent. Its very rng
Is strong when it actually procs at a decent rate
Same thing with exe SD
St is a hit or miss either high deeps or not as high based on sd
my 2nd warrior is in the weird spot of having half mythic tier and half normal lol
I should probably level a 3rd one today to max bonus rolls zzzzzzzz
earthern in 3-4 hours or a race with actual racials hmmm
2nd warrior ominous
?
very ominous
ominous
Better yet
Earthen
Then race change

play whatever race and however many warriors you want
its just a bit unusual to have the same class twice outside of RWF or roleplay purposes
87 warriors, all named clarence all worgen
i roleplay
ig? I like the class though
multibox and line up my warriors
im aware
I had 2 enhance shamans in tbc c
ominous
spongiewarr is my only level 90 character 👍
failed to click the correct class to level to 90 at the start of the expansion AGAIN
can't win
I did 80-90 in like 4? maybe 5? hours with harldar guide
I think i butchered his name
s2 arms meta
in raid
highest st in the game
aware
sod 2.0
is this 🔮 or is it actually pretty good
aware
arms gonna giga suck in s2
cause they will forget tierset is carrying us
"carrying"
theres just not too much point in having two functionally identical characters? unless you specifically enjoy the gearing process or like roleplaying two different characters
tww prepatch ahh
dw next tier set will be the most creative dogshit theyve ever seen (sd casts tc)
peak
actually betrayed by people liking that tier set
man we need
ruined class design for another 28 years
hero talent tiersets
not this generic fuckass
imagine sd casts 2 reaps
hoooooooly
that was the intent no? and then they just cba'd
i like the idea of being able to have 2 mythic raid runs each week rather than 1
New tier set: whirlwind casts cleave
surely next tier we get a bonus that impacts gameplay more than being passive
each auto triggers reap
(Slam tier bonus)
6 paragraphs tierset
hitting slam slams the target 2 additional times
20% more slam damage
Slam bonus that is bugged for the first 3 weeks of the season where it doesnt affect heroic strike
Hoooly voluntary post tier splits
ganna split all over waow
Slam has a 5 second cooldown (reduced by haste), but guarantees one tactician proc, and does 250% increased damage
me when i get mythic boe and sell it for big gold
me when I buy mythic boe because WOD gold has carried me over a decade
me when i get mythic boe and trade it to gm
ok but ure rich
im not
if you try to touch my mythic boe I'm gonna break your kneecaps (in game)
where is my slayer manaforge 2pc blizzard....
i also get free shit and gold to buy out tier and trinkets from strangers so
free feces pog
stranger danger they say...
no
no
gg
i am challenger in league of legends so I'm better (I'm not)
deserved
8 billion lp or doesnt count
(the master+ reset did nothing)
I mean my peak is 1300 in s14
now I just get first/second month chall and burn out
600-800 games in 6-8 weeks is not fun long term
hoooly
idk i kinda quit in s12 was 689 lp gm which was like 150-200 lp off chall then had to quit to prepare for uni entry exam
casual since then
playing arena
type shi
and full premade flex
climb is fun, early season shenanagins are fun, long term sustain playing sucks ass
I did 4700 games during covid, never again
4 games a day is like, 95 minutes
ye
I'd have like 7 hours free
gk type shi
fastest red card ever in the regional league
for a gk
corner wanted to punch the ball away and missed it and instead punched a guy
cinema
has the sudden death bug been fixed

afaik they are aware
it was reported when .5 launched but it was low prio
for obvious reasons
this bug is like tww old no?
ye
sees warrior -> low prio
ever since slayer came out afaik
Yeah ngl. Was insane
Played poorly kept up and beat feral + outlaw
I got a small peak into how it feels 2 be in a real grp
They just going in alphabetical order /s
What does it do ?
i did 130k
on boss
p1 chim
reck pot gave me haste
is this tech
outsie of execute - when i MS it sso damn weak. do I still MS or wait for 1 stack of EP at least? (slayer, m+)
u ms on cd on st outside of exe
on aoe ms is filler
if u cant cleave op exe rend
u can ms>rend if u want its a small loss
I see S: MS hits so low sometimes, like 28k
theres either mass execute or overpowering finish no?
yea
unless sd or less than 2x ep and less than 60 rage
that 60 rage is based on vibes
if u feel like it might starve u and u dont have a lot of op stacks
just op
when you execute with 2 charges of sudden death, you get +1 second on the cooldown of cs and avatar
why do we care about ep in aoe
ah that one
idk
it was there when i fucked around with it
you dont
walhe
yep
i did 130k on chim boss damage in p1
and i got madness
and a circle
reck pot gave me haste
i had 3 bs
in p1
big
wait 4 bs
eta gg
3 on boss one on adds
we wiped in intermission ofc
y
ok lemme rewrite
yeah looks right
cleave
sd proc/exec phase AND HIGH RAGE
op
exec
rend
ms?
hs
sd
ms
op
slam
ah yh mb sd above ms
hs execute ms 2 ep cs op
thats in exe phase
outside of exe u ms on cd
yeah
yes
is it better to execute at 20 or slam
do NOT look
"do i press the ability that has 19 modifiers or slam"
cluegi
afk
how gio must feel rn
arms broken or
what wr are u now
1.3k
wr30 to wr1300 ahh
ahh
ok ST non-exec
hs
sd
ms
op
rend
exec phase
hs
ms 2ep+cs
sd
exec
op
right?
oh wait
no rend
hs higher than ms in exec
exec phase
ms 2ep+cs
hs
sd
op if rage less than 90
exec
op
rend
looks right
apl from github shows hs>ms
in my head hs>ms cuz u get more buff for ms
idk if there were changes to the apl im unware of that didnt get pushed yet
i mean
this is just insane
play powerful
over both
idk op finish is fine i guess if u want more st but idk in skyreach there is relevant 2t
yeah cuz I fucking vibed it that way
based
classic apl
idk if high rage exe is a gain in aoe btw
i just vibed it
cause it feels good
my sim is 460k op vs 471k powerful
and if it feels good its good
Execute must be added 2 this
u save some time on crawth u lose some time on aoe crawth dangerous idk
literally why is powerful so busted
🤣
Mass exec stronger when lucky🤣
cranka
is arms just overall shit in raiding/ST? i cant pass 90k and a similarly geared fury can do 110k apparently, am i just bad or is this expected?
I don't understand why Arm work better on boss damage on Lura when sim put fury ahead in single target...
But fury sim much better in single target and lura is 99% single target
sim isnt real
whats this
chat how do we feel about me sending TWO bladestorms in one csmash window
yes that window was nearly 20s long

Sim execute
And u have answer 2 lura
xd
first group better for parsing 😎
I mean sim already calculate with a execute phase, so normally it's already done
lura takes double dmg in p3
during exe phase
sims are good for determining gear upgrades but very misleading in terms of spec viability
But he take double dmg out of execute phase too no ?
most of p3 takes place during exe phase
He just go back to 100% hp in P3
that's p4
Ok you're smart
you can also just compare the logs from your screenshot to see the exact breakdown of what is happening:
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/d72NwDB6JHkzCaYh/YJ8r1gCpHn7XAxB2?fight=19&position=569255&source=7%2C37&type=damage-done&targetclass=Boss
If you scope it to just P3 you can see Arms skyrockets
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/compare/d72NwDB6JHkzCaYh/YJ8r1gCpHn7XAxB2?fight=19&position=569255&source=7%2C37&type=damage-done&targetclass=Boss&phase=4
real quick, u dont cleave on 2 targets if u don't have martial prowess right? (paladins)
if it's 2 target you follow your Single Target rotation and keep Sweeping Strikes up
Ait, thanks
cleave doesn't get benefits (ie: Fervor) until it hits 3+ targets
Fair enough thank you 🙂
oh right, so if it's at 3, i cleave on 2?
but you also want Ravager out during that
it sounds like a lot of conditionals but basically for two targets:
- Do single target rotation + keep sweeping strikes up
- remember that Ravager buffs your cleave.
- if Ravager is up and you have 3 collateral damage stacks, it's technically beneficial to Cleave
- (or tbh... just hold Ravager for when you have 3 targets again)
Perfect thanks for making that so clear
of course! it's easy to overthink it a bit
Ravager in 2 target makes cleave better than Overpower, but like... just hold Ravager for 3 target when your cleave will start absolutely pumping huge numbers anyways. No point in blowing a ravager when it wont really give you much benefit
Yeah need to practice on paladins for sure
if the fight will end before your next 3-target window comes up then hell yeah just send it
thanks !
hey guys as a new arms player shall i go collossus ravager for mythics
are you playing with a premade that includes a tank and pushing highkeys OR do you enjoy colossus
if your answer is NO to one or both, play slayer m+ wowhead build
legit just getting max now and gonna play with 2 mates, will end up pushing high
but im a while away from that
You will have a better experience playing the slayer m+ tree from wowhead then
cheers dude
once you get into the 20+ range you can pickup colossus for the majority keys if you really want to
I think only key I would 100% play colossus is pit of saron
whilst AA/skyreach are 100% slayer keys perma
The ?? Delve will give a small amount of myth crests that don't count towards the limit.
okay so slayer with bladestorm im guessing that is
Col or Slayer now better for hight M+?
dungeon dependant
bra wb caverns or that one other key
uh
deat
Multiple 22 caverns are timed with Slayer
are they slayer the whole time or only rhe last boss
bc those are 2 very different things
after 3rd boss
long ass rp
you need to play colo for 2nd boss
you legit are 2 dps on that fight
@minor gust
were u 1st or 2nd soak
i was doing 140k boss dps in 2nd p1 xdd
also nice pi 🥄
maybe idk
i dont think it does?
maybe in m+ build it does
FUCK I PLAYED OPPORTUNIST
imagine if i had r3 consumes
1st soak OP
no
172k vs 182k
in my gear
both m+ build
2nd soak only gets to soak once because 2nd soak after intermission is usually skipped
so less padding
holy
lmao
best dungeon to spam broll on fresh arms warrior?
pit
of
saron
ty ty
colossus or slayer in m+? 😄
both
what do you like
new to warr any tip?
reroll
read wowhead guide for rotation
press buttons, dont die 
Remove defensive stance keybind and charge boss on 1 not 0

why opportunist bad on chimaerus
he is going for boss dam
ic
mom'atath
uhm
119k
NOOOOOO
EXECUTE LOST ON OVERALL
NOOOOO
Man I love not getting a single SD proc in 30 seconds
Need old reap back
remove reap make it a sd only thing
make slayers strike aoe
and add manaforge 2pc back
Just make Overwhelmed 30s
Arms slayer ST raid build. Can you tell me which is the standard and execute rotation prio ?
the one on wowhead
Bro, this execute bug made me think that they actually could add this as a feature to colossus(to make execute feel not like shit and buff their st?), like a talent in colossus hero tree that would make execute apply 200% value DW
In colossus ST do I spam cleave at all with ravager after col smash? I assume not bc cleave isn't in the ST rotation at all but it feels weird letting 3 casts go to waste/not getting the col might stacks from it.
oh wait it only gives col might at >= 3 targets nvm
Also no point in using rav because it deals no damage in ST
Did somethnig fancy happen recently? Seen soem arms warriors in my keyes doing useful damage, as slayer of all things?
"Useful damage"
I feel attacked
I guess I was just confused then bc rav is in the wowhead ST prio
oh ye, but you can ignore it entirely
I believe its less than 100k per cast
And wasted if it does not come back up until next pack
what slayer build are u playing more guys?
Kewl. Thanks!
Is Slayer still behind Col even after buffs? Or close enough to not matter?
wdym middling damage while offering nothing extraordinary (3% attack power, rallying cry) which 1/3rd of tank setups already provide is so fulfilling and useful
What I wanna see come tier tier 2:
Reap the Storm proc chance 20% -> 50%
Losing this tier set is going to be really painful unfortunately
they need to just add it baseline
it totally depends on what the s2 tier does
then change the tier set to a generic 3%/5% damage buff so it doesn't become infinite colossus smash after it's added baseline
Slayer is more proc reliant. If you get good procs and are pugging itll beat col (specifically talking about puga tho where you cant count on any funnel)
If u know the tank col will be better. Gap isnt huge tho so play whatever
yoo guys, a quick question ! as a slayer if you have 2 choices, one pot on bloodlust "no execute phase" or pot on execute "no bloodlust"
which is better ?
assumign that rotationally you had same cds
pot on lust no exe
is it a big difference ?
pretty sure it is yeah
What dungeons favor Slayer vs Col? I still feel like playing Colossus in all dungeons except maybe AA or Nexus Point
i see, we are asked to not prepot on crown and hold it for bloodlust so i was wondering ifi can just prepot and execute pot
so rusty i did not play for 2+ weeks
potting in p1 is pretty useless
yea that's why i wanted to know if it's big difference , then i'd hold ofr bloodlust
if it wasn't big difference then it won't matter much if i had some fun prepoting
If your RAID wants you to do it you do it, no questions asked. Theres a reason they are telling you to and its most likely for specific dmg threshholds that need to be met.
Time to change your name my child. Welcome to the Church of Slayer
Sup Bozman
Sup
I need your slayerism to help me out
I converted as well 🙏
Slayer forever
But I hate Slayer in raid
Except I'm not 100% sure how I feel about massacre
stupid rng
Did the shoutout in the biz video hit like crack or what @minor gust
This was a testrun on pit16 and my exeqt damage sucks. I tend to prio OP over exe on 5/6+ targets.
Should i ignore OP more, dear slayer savior
The whole point is if you are investing everything into execute with x2 CT you kinda have to take massacre.
OP is fine if you dont need the prio
Yeah I know I just dont love it that much, I feel like I'm doing 90k ish on bosses without it
3700 atm, still figuring it out
It was nice but I don't wanna take all the credit away from the true Chef @fresh spire
@latent moss i was napping
Realistically massacre should just be made baseline but Blizz hates us

Just like CT, MBG...


