arms

[slow saddle]

Well with funnel

Cleave does cleave + slam?

And since it has a cd

Its just cleave > ms > op

• cleave also keeps up cs

[ripe field]

and the auto slam applied by cleave hits for 150% damage

this applies to Heroic Strike as well

[slow saddle]

Exactly, big slam

So cleave + 150% slam beats 1 ms y

[tidal acorn]

yea I know how it works just wondered if it was enough to beat ms 🙂

[slow saddle]

Also the cleave buffs with multiple target

Does make cleave be decent st

This is 3 targets minimum ofc

At 2t u wanna ms>op>slam>cleave id wager

[viral fiber]

Slayer is better now?

I see half of the people switchhed to slayer

[stable fiber]

im playing it cause the overalls dont seem much worse but you have way better boss dps

[candid garden]

How is the aoe burst?

[stable fiber]

with SD procs its actually very good

[candid garden]

Reaching 1m dps in seat/academy first pulls?

[stable fiber]

slayer has better uncapped aoe

uhh

seat i do like 500-700k

depends on sd procs

i havent done a algethar yet

its my last 15 for resil

[candid garden]

Ah ok slayer thingie not target capped

Thats good to know

[stable fiber]

yeah reap is uncapped

its reduced past 8 but

still fairly high

[slow saddle]

Y i mean overall farmin is deffo a col angle

Or if u can funnel every boss

If u can ye gods slayers nice on bosses

Just spam that executes🤣

[ashen night]

can i get this crapton of cdm to make my execute light up all the time when a mob is <35%?

my brain only responds to shining Buttons nowadays

[viral fiber]

How much buff is windfury for slayer

I know for colo is 10%

So slayer overall is around 150k while colo is 180k

For example

20% diff?

No funnel for bosses ofc

[slow saddle]

I dno man

Its a per key basis

Its better 2 say, col is higher aoe potential

[mortal crag]

No what

Wthelly

That sounds wrong

[viral fiber]

So what is actual number

Slayer or Colo for pug no funnel bosses

Top overall

Also windfury good or bad for slylayer

Like 10% for colo

[dim basalt]

Arms is hardly playable without Skyfury

[glass plank]

hii hii ! ..I want to try massacre .. so for AOE it'd be normal slayer rotation, once prio is exe range Cleave - Exe - OP ?

[dim basalt]

And if you want estimated numbers you should maybe give a scenario

[mortal crag]

What ilvl

What key level

[viral fiber]

So its still same big buff

[mortal crag]

Yes

[dim basalt]

Unfortunately ye

[viral fiber]

Now main question

Slayer or colo

[mortal crag]

??

It's per key

U can switch

[viral fiber]

Slayer only on aa and sr?

[mortal crag]

Seat
You play entire key as Colo
Before last boss you switch to slayer

Nexus/aa/sr/wrs
I would go slayer

Rest I would go Colo

Matter of fact I would go slayer on mt as well if I don't have a colossus route

[viral fiber]

Dont like it when both hero talent on par with each other have to respec on every instance

[mortal crag]

What key level are u doing

[viral fiber]

We cant go out?

[dim basalt]

Then just play Slayer

[mortal crag]

U can use dungeon teleporter after 3rd boss

To teleport out and switch and go in

[tacit crystal]

need to have tp saved!!!

or gg

[mortal crag]

Just make sure u don't have veterans vitality as colossus in hero tree

[viral fiber]

What is dungeon teleporter

[mortal crag]

The portal u get when u complete it on 10

[tacit crystal]

why not

[mortal crag]

It's a passive that procs with a 60s cd

Untrackable

[viral fiber]

I go out and have to run back?

[mortal crag]

Will block u from changing

[tacit crystal]

LMAO

[mortal crag]

No.. There's a way stone. U have a checkpoint

[mortal crag]

Ye i had to run last boss Colo cuz of it ETA GF

[tacit crystal]

did you find that out the hard way

or

[mortal crag]

GG

Yes

[tacit crystal]

gg

[mortal crag]

👍👍👍👍😁

Horrible

[tacit crystal]

sounds like you just go fury

[mortal crag]

Teleported. Got cucked.
Luckily was resi so we timed next attempt.

[tacit crystal]

and not arms

[mortal crag]

Fury is bait

[dim basalt]

fuck Fury

[tacit crystal]

i mean

[mortal crag]

Fury has 0 prio

[dim basalt]

all my homies hate Fury

[mortal crag]

No it's just bait

[tacit crystal]

that talent is surely a noticeable amount of healing

[mortal crag]

Not really ig? It's only 3rd boss that fucks you there

And you play it basically half dstance anyway kekw

[mortal crag]

Based on what I'm reading, play slayer on all keys

[viral fiber]

So if I play slayer on all keys its not griefing?

Evev on colo keys

[tacit crystal]

skyreach hurts so much

you cannot soak the beams i feel

hi biz

:3

[mortal crag]

Biz typing

😮

Gio u scared him

[candid garden]

How do I tp out?

[dim basalt]

What key level are you playing

[tacit crystal]

🫣

[candid garden]

One thendungeon eye icon?

[mortal crag]

With dungeon

Portal

Like the level 10 m+ portal u get

[candid garden]

Ah

So tp to dungeon in generao spellbook

[mortal crag]

Has to be after 3rd boss

[mortal crag]

Yes

[viral fiber]

19

[tacit crystal]

but you can also time it without doing it

[mortal crag]

Just play colossus for half the keys and slayer on the other half

[tacit crystal]

this was in my 20 seat

ig you can drop it without losing much

[mortal crag]

I mean it's only seat anyway where u do it

[viral fiber]

No not only seat but all keys

[candid garden]

If I walk to dungeon normally before start I could do this after any waypoint?

[hard juniper]

Can probably do the same after windrunner 3rd boss too with that RP

[mortal crag]

Just play colossus for half the keys and slayer on the other half

[mortal crag]

Tried it, it's like a 10-15waiting time

[dim basalt]

rp isnt as long so you lose some seconds

[slow saddle]

Dstance anglr

With sr

[tacit crystal]

yeah i started to dstance

[viral fiber]

SR, AA, WS is slayer keys got it

[mortal crag]

Just play slayer on windspire

[tacit crystal]

but it feels so bad

i think you just need to have tanks oak with you

[mortal crag]

And nexus if ur tank doesn't send u a good route

BASICALLY if u play no funnel just go slayer

[slow saddle]

Meh u can just do it if u low or dont have dbts // sr // iv

[tacit crystal]

windrunner is a good colo key with funnel

[viral fiber]

Ok noted my tank will never give me good route

[slow saddle]

Id just dbts 1st sr dstance sr

[mortal crag]

It's just dog for last 2 kinda

[candid garden]

I must be doing something wrong cos my slayer variant feels about sameish on ST dps

[mortal crag]

U are doing sth wrong

[slow saddle]

I nean nexus u absolutely blast as slayer

[mortal crag]

I know

I cranked

[tacit crystal]

i mean not really

[mortal crag]

and we timed

[tacit crystal]

you can get funnel on 3r

d

and the aoe is good

[mortal crag]

Yes but it's wonky and it's not perma/long

I'm not saying u can't play Colo

[tacit crystal]

yeah

[candid garden]

I love those ressing skellingtons in maisara

[mortal crag]

I'm just saying I fucking hate playing Colo in that key

[candid garden]

Just keep 2 alive for second and third boss

[mortal crag]

First pull u don't really have a lot of time to prestack

Many pulls are small target count/chained slowly

[tacit crystal]

yeah i agree

[mortal crag]

Buncha downtime after bosses

[tacit crystal]

i did it as slayer with the buffs

it felt good

[viral fiber]

So maisara is also slayer key?

[mortal crag]

No

We spoke abt windspire

[viral fiber]

Og

[mortal crag]

Maisara is not a slayer key

Bro ur doing 19s no?

[candid garden]

I failed academy 17 with like a minute

[viral fiber]

Yes just starting

[candid garden]

They will change the time

Trust

[viral fiber]

Got 18 resi yesterday

[mortal crag]

Ok so u should be able to get a feel of what to do

And what to play

It's not black and white

[viral fiber]

But I dont have 2h yet bro. Played as prot

Next week I switch

[dim basalt]

[tacit crystal]

^^^^^

that was my exact face

im deadass

[dim basalt]

You better practice Arms in lower keys before ruining others 19s

[mortal crag]

If u want the shortest answer possible imo

Nxp Sr aa wrs - if no funnel on route go slayer

Mt mc pos seat go Colo

[mortal crag]

I do have this one

[viral fiber]

I do my own keys

[viral fiber]

No one will pick me with prot IO

[candid garden]

Xddd

[dim basalt]

What did philliam do to ruin the npx that way

[mortal crag]

I don't remember

Sometging about the tank not playing for melee so he had like horrendous st

[dim basalt]

Yeah col saves that shorley

[mortal crag]

But ig he just hated the playatyle even more under those conditions

[dim basalt]

But ngl many tanks are like that in NPX its crazy

[candid garden]

What paths are good in AA? We tried it on 17 but all of us got gray key% log feels like we pulling something wrong

[mortal crag]

I needed a few pulls to get the hang

[mortal crag]

Ur all dogs

TRUTH NUKE

[dim basalt]

[mortal crag]

If every dps played bad all the dps will have grey logs

[candid garden]

Nah probs just knowledge gap

[dim basalt]

Didnt know there are multiple routes in AA

[mortal crag]

If there's a routing issue but the dps played well it should be at least someone with blue or purple

At least 1 dude

[candid garden]

How so?

If your pathing is bad wouldnt that equally affect all dps?

[mortal crag]

Because if literally everyone did dogshit on a key that 70% of the pulls there are static

Then it's not a route issue

Did u guys have deaths?

[candid garden]

Yeah 3

[mortal crag]

The only area where u can kinda control the pathing is after bird

But even then all variants should be roughly the same

Esp in a 17

[candid garden]

I saw some guys going to the third boss mobs first and then like pulling birds to wind guy

[mortal crag]

Were they big deaths? Was it 1 death per dps?

[mortal crag]

That's been fixed

[candid garden]

Yeah all dps died once

No boss deaths tho

[mortal crag]

I'd have to see log to judge ig

[candid garden]

Idk it felt awkward like we did too small pulls or something

Only big pull we had was start

Then it was basically single pack pulls chained

[mortal crag]

Sounds like a 17

[candid garden]

I fking hate those teleporting breath wyrms

[mortal crag]

Like I said

[mortal crag]

Bait them on tank or meld them

[stable mountain]

they go to farthest person always

then face tank with breath iirc

but that person should move it to group

[mortal crag]

Yep it's why tank baits them and u can just go w

[tacit crystal]

how much of eu

has resil 21

[mortal crag]

Idk not a lot

I'm only 2 21s down

[tacit crystal]

but a lot of 19 and 20?

[mortal crag]

Oh yeah

People omegabuy lol

[tacit crystal]

na is starting to get its wave of 20 resil

[mortal crag]

Gg gl

[tacit crystal]

it started like last week

most people

[dim basalt]

I need to push again

[tacit crystal]

i think a few groups had it the week before but those arent pugging

[dim basalt]

Still sitting on resil 18 cuz I havent done shit for 2 weeks

[tacit crystal]

you arent missing out on much dw

[pastel whale]

sitting on resil 14 because i was too slow and now all i get are dribblers

[candid garden]

Whats 18 resil score

[dim basalt]

atp title cutoff will be like half 22s

[candid garden]

3600?

[tacit crystal]

36xx

??

[dim basalt]

3660ish

[haughty gate]

3640 around there

[dim basalt]

50 if bad timers

[haughty gate]

according to raider.io

[dim basalt]

But I almost 2 chested 3 keys or so

[mortal crag]

3973 for resil 13 imo

[pastel whale]

just went into a +15 and was met with "yeah im just learning resto atm"

i love low keys

[candid garden]

Xd

[mortal crag]

Sounds fine

It's a 15

[pastel whale]

its not fine believe me

[candid garden]

I had this legend

[mortal crag]

Ur only like 25 ilvls above it

[dim basalt]

I farm 14s for crests and never have issues

[candid garden]

Had to invite him

[haughty gate]

id insta invite

[pastel whale]

probably because of your io

[dim basalt]

No I mean with my groups

obv I get invited

[pastel whale]

if you slack off and dont push keys early, all you get are dribblers signing up

[dim basalt]

I think you overestimate the skill of players in 19s and 20s

lmao

[pastel whale]

fair lol

[dim basalt]

Ive seen the worst wipes in 19s man

[candid garden]

Tried 18 seat as well

But third boss

Damage wtf

[mortal crag]

Yes cuz they buy keys there

Source: 🙂

[pastel whale]

im not saying im amazing, but when im the only player interrupting/cc'ing its kinda annoying

[dim basalt]

Havent seen people buy higher than 16s but Im not actively checking so

[candid garden]

Im sad for not running javelin talent for extra interrupt

[pastel whale]

me 42 interrupts, Tank 4

[mortal crag]

Speaking from experience stj

[dim basalt]

damn

How much does that cost

[ebon holly]

Hey guys, help me pls with ST rotation of arms. Im just watching some top DPS warr on warcraft logs and it tells that all warriors use MT back to back in a 1.3 sec cd. How is it possible ?

[mortal crag]

1m+

[dim basalt]

Must be stupidly expensive

[mortal crag]

Per key ye

[mortal crag]

Use what back to back?

[candid garden]

Main tank back to back

[mortal crag]

Magister terrace?

[pastel whale]

Just launch the tank at the adds

back to back

[ebon holly]

oh my bad. MS (Mortal Strike)

[candid garden]

Mby thats during slayer bladestorm?

[ebon holly]

aaa

[pastel whale]

^^

[ebon holly]

im dumb ty

[mortal crag]

Probably is

[atomic mountain]

hey guys. i played arms in tww and rerolled in season 3 on to prot. now i only get picked as dps in 14/15 keys.... what has changed to tww arms? do we still play colo and send all cd´s at same time and what is main rota?

[candid garden]

Click slam

Kill all

[atomic mountain]

Oo slam???

[mortal crag]

W bait

[candid garden]

If you do 10 slam in a row something special will happen

[viral fiber]

Do we put slam in keybind?

[halcyon valve]

Its true

[viral fiber]

So we just spamming slam

[candid garden]

Make sure u have azerite power with 20x slam proc

[halcyon valve]

Oh imagine a 20x heroic strike

[atomic mountain]

nvm dont asking again.... thx

[viral fiber]

Heroic strike? We dont have that ability

[candid garden]

But u have to enter a timewalking bfa dungeon then leave grp and get summoned by a warlock into the key you wanna do

[viral fiber]

Used to be on wotlk as I remember

[halcyon valve]

We literally do

Its new in midnight

Apex talent for arms

[pastel whale]

it procs on slam mate

soslam is needed tom be keybinded

[candid garden]

Also make sure you use all CDs before using draught of souls

[viral fiber]

So we slam only when heroic strike

[candid garden]

Also you can use scabbard of kyanos for big damages

[pastel whale]

also make sure you drink water between each pull, gotta stay hydrated

[pastel whale]

depends if your ST or MT

3 targets you dont HS

you cleave

[candid garden]

There is also a weird blue trinket that gives you a second bladestorm (or first if u rava)

[viral fiber]

I see

[mortal crag]

Man

Just go to wowhead

And read

[pastel whale]

wowhead is your best friend

[viral fiber]

I need my 2h 1st

[pastel whale]

you dont have a 2h

[mortal crag]

So why are u even thinking about

Arms stuff rn

[viral fiber]

4 loot wasted on pit

[pastel whale]

OH LAWD

just craft one?

[mortal crag]

4 sparks

[viral fiber]

4 loots left with 3 voidcore next week

No spark

If unlucky 2h will be last to drop

[pastel whale]

go into a normal raid and grab a 2h, noone will need on it

[candid garden]

If you put honey smoke marinade on it the day before it loses the pork taste

[viral fiber]

Cant go into 19 with hero or champ 2h

[pastel whale]

19?!?!?!

ma dude

your asking about slam rotation and want to do 19's

[viral fiber]

I learn fast

[mortal crag]

I'm sure u do

On another note

[pastel whale]

okay 🤣

[mortal crag]

Funny haha

I didn't even notice the guy wrote arms is harder than fury

Til after I sent it

Lulw

[pastel whale]

lel

[candid garden]

Fury is for the young players

Arms is for the laidback dadgamers

[mortal crag]

I play both

Arms is easier than fury imo rn

[halcyon valve]

Broke: arms is harder than fury
Woke: arms is better than fury

[pastel whale]

Truueeeee, but yeah arms is easier than fury

you have a lot more time to plan rotation with arms

[atomic mountain]

how do we aply rend on mobs? do we realy dot all? or do we have an ability that spreads dot?

[pastel whale]

fury you are constantly staring at your procs and rage

[thick kelp]

press rend

[limber dirge]

yeah, rend

[halcyon valve]

Rend is aoe

[candid garden]

I played fury for like 10 years, spec just plays itself imo

But idk more to press i guess

[pastel whale]

yeah its more to press and if you want to keep perfect rotation its fast paced decisions

[candid garden]

Dont rly like rampage tbh

[atomic mountain]

lol. since when?

[halcyon valve]

Since prepatch iirc

[atomic mountain]

ah okay. didnt played arms since season 2

[candid garden]

Rend is actually bae

[mortal crag]

Hold on

Elaborate on how is arms more to press

Outside of your cds which is not really saying much

Or u mean fury is more to press?

[viral fiber]

We press rend only on ST right? And for what purpose

Filler?

[thick kelp]

no

you press rend always

to keep up the debuff

[ashen night]

i dunno if im doing something wrong here.. after i use cs ss Stacks i cast ss but i still sometimes have a couple seconds without ss until cs becomes rdy again.. is that normal?

[mortal crag]

Good thing u learn fast

[pastel whale]

noooo fury is more

[mortal crag]

You can be in spots where u have 2-3 gcds without ss, yes

[pastel whale]

not arms

[viral fiber]

Even in MT? We cant spread rend like mountain thane?

[mortal crag]

?

[thick kelp]

Wrong chat bro

[mortal crag]

Literally we said 4 sentences ago

[pastel whale]

this guy wants to do 19's btw

[limber dirge]

just push the button lol

[mortal crag]

That rend is aoe

[mortal crag]

Not even 8 mins ago

[ashen night]

i sometimes have like 7-9 seconds left.. does that mean i use to much OP and not enough rage spenders to accelerate cs CD?

[mortal crag]

Maybe, or maybe ur overlapping ss without noticing

[viral fiber]

Wow true

No1 opener I guess

[mortal crag]

Just go to wowhead bro

I beg u

Just go read wowhead stuff

[viral fiber]

How about icy veins

[mortal crag]

I can't imagine a single question u will have that isn't answered there

[viral fiber]

Which one better

[mortal crag]

Go to wowhead

[viral fiber]

Ok see you next week with my max 2h

[pastel whale]

naaaaaah this guy is trolling surely

[mortal crag]

Has to

[ashen night]

thx! i have a log but im unsure how to find out what to Look for in my case

[pastel whale]

look at buffs and see if you are overlapping instances of SS

like if your sending SS when you have 4 charges left

[candid garden]

I kinda wanna glowing button on SS when i have CS on more than 10 sec CD and have no sweeping stacks

[meager ravine]

someone told me that arms is only good for high level keys. I am mostly doing 10s. Is that too low to get value out of arms and I stay fury?

[outer willow]

It's fine, your cds are quick so you can burst more often and it's not too bad if packs die too fast

[tulip breach]

aight so for slayer m+ how are people's execute damage so high? is it having a higher priority in aoe outside SD procs?

[slow saddle]

I mean basicly

I exe when i can exe

And not cleave

[tulip breach]

wait you're executing over cleave in aoe?

[slow saddle]

Id play slayer arms

Nono

If i can exe but not cleave

Cleave is king

[tulip breach]

are you target switching in order to be able to execute if you don't have a prio target?

@slow saddle

[slow saddle]

I meean🤣

Yes

I am slave 2 sexecutin

[tulip breach]

that's gotta be hell on rage pool

[meager ravine]

is slayer arms best for mythic dungeons

[tulip breach]

no

[tulip breach]

it seems from just very basic testing that it's worth sending ms with 2 exp over execute, no?

[slow saddle]

Only in cs app

Its worth

As we dont play with martial prowess

[tulip breach]

even without it, it seems to do more damage with 2 exp

[slow saddle]

Well seems is not what sims say

If it did we would?

If u low on rage u op

Keep in mind exe gets cs up faster

As far as i understand thats why

• critical thinkin returns rage spebd

[dim basalt]

Slayer has a lot of execute modifiers + DW

But its a very, very tiny diff from only sending exe vs ms with 2x EP

Like 500 dps or so according to Walhe

[tulip breach]

i see

[unique aspen]

Just got 90 with my warrior..my guildies help me through some +10 to use my bonus rolls. Im rolling stuff in pit already got the weapon. Is this the right choice or is there a better dungeon to use them??

[sacred zodiac]

pit is probs best ye

[spice field]

pit is best even if you get the weapon keep using it

[summer shore]

hows everyone finding slayers in key

[spice field]

can i get optimal slayer talent build guys?

i am going to try it on AA

[royal escarp]

slayer > colosus ?? thks

[rare kite]

I play it myself, not found other slayers

[strange comet]

I enjoy the slarms aoe execute build a lot. I still seem to do better in most keys with Col, but I think I like slayer better. They are close though

[paper wasp]

anybody here spell reflects seat's last boss disintegrate? as a dps warrior

[slow saddle]

I slay

Only 17 goin into 18s

[slow saddle]

Col requires 2 much hand holdin

[iron robin]

as slayer arms or even as colossus will i use the free cleaves after colossus smash in single target? or what will be my rotation after CS?

[slow saddle]

Follow prio

[rare kite]

I was mostly memeing on the way he wrote the question xD i know other people play slayer as well

[slow saddle]

True, well i im a sexecutinor

[hasty pumice]

Follow thegokke on tiktok for more warrior lifehacks

[slow saddle]

Yup

Tired

Follow prio

Sleep>caffeine>amfetameins

[slow saddle]

Ok, i was today years old, when i noticed u are dr.phill

[hasty pumice]

What

[slow saddle]

Ya name

Dr. Phill i am

[hasty pumice]

What about it mon ami

[slow saddle]

I never actually noticed is all🤣

[hasty pumice]

[slow saddle]

Dr.bladestorm

[hasty pumice]

Somebody here recognised me from my MH videos so I was wondering

[quiet bramble]

Who

[slow saddle]

Nah i watched u on american tv🤪

[hasty pumice]

[hasty pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/kirk-if-ied-gif-8896930698438413014

[short crescent]

How much damage am I missing if I don't have a shaman in M+ or raid?

[radiant ore]

So is slayer better now then colussus in m?

[mortal crag]

No, in st you don't send leaves

Cleave*

[mortal crag]

Me when I slay monsters

[slow saddle]

Sim it

But hardest part without is not starvin

[royal escarp]

up

[mortal crag]

Roughly 10%

[mortal crag]

In pos/seat/mt/Mc u still Colo

Since u can funnel almost everything there

Rest u can safely slarms

[slow saddle]

I mean puggin

Slarms prob

[radiant ore]

Thanks!

[royal escarp]

any one with talent for slayer thks

[thorn stream]

I just slarm everywhere

[olive nest]

Bro Hollyy Lura is wicked

Super cool fight

[tepid tartan]

So I’m trying to learn, in aoe I’m fine I can keep up but in single target I feel like I have to fight for my life to stay above the monk tank (granted he has 15 ilvl on me)

My prio rend up > hs > execute proc > 2 stack op > ms > op > cleave rage dump.

Is it my rotation prio or am I just bad at the game lol

[vale warren]

Am I the only one that thinks slarms feels weird? Maybe cause I’ve only played colo

[thick kelp]

very bad rotation

read wowheadguide

[olive nest]

It plays entirely different so that makes sense

[tepid tartan]

Ok I thought that’s what it said. I’ll go back and read it again

[mortal crag]

Bro is doing everything wrong

[mortal crag]

It does, u don't press ms, counter intuitive at first but cranks once u realize it

[flat willow]

welcome to arms

you got the spec that doesn't press mortal strike

or the spec that doesn't press execute

[radiant ore]

are we talking abuot slayer?

[mortal crag]

Yes

[radiant ore]

St or aoe?

or both

[mortal crag]

Both kinda

[radiant ore]

Kekw

[mortal crag]

I mean in st you click it

[radiant ore]

What is this patch

[mortal crag]

Cuz u have to

[olive nest]

In multi target build

Ms is low prio

[mortal crag]

Yeh

In regular st its fine

It's still high prio

It's just in aoe build

[thorn stream]

In st it’s the same as always

[sacred zodiac]

ok what do you do when you run out of cleave op and sd???? noob

[radiant ore]

OP > ms in aoe?

[mortal crag]

Uhhh

[olive nest]

Yes

[mortal crag]

"wait for resource"

Chatting

[sacred zodiac]

just ms noob

[olive nest]

It’s like cleave > execute > op > ms > rend

[wary raft]

rend 😻

[sacred zodiac]

you skip pressing ms outside of cs now

[sacred zodiac]

also on cd!

[mortal crag]

Just chill for a sec then

[wary raft]

grrr!!! I A F K

[flat willow]

[mortal crag]

Fish for op with slam

[sacred zodiac]

i wonder if theres a button that does more damage and also does that..

[flat willow]

hmmmm

[mortal crag]

Yes

A slam that crits

[flat willow]

doesn't come to mind

[olive nest]

You not pressing slam unless absolute last resort Kek

[flat willow]

I look for a target with a shield and press wrecking throw

[mortal crag]

[flat willow]

if there's no target with a shield I still press wrecking throw

[mortal crag]

Charge weave

Fish for op with impending victory 5head

[flat willow]

I press hamstring to fish for a tactician proc

with that tactician proc I then press colossus smash

focused x3

battlecry

into 5 million damage mortal strike

[sacred zodiac]

maxed on rage and sd, cleave, op, wrecking throw, rend are on cd

and an enemy is about to heal to full hp

[tepid tartan]

Is wowhead considered the proper rotation for colossus single target prio? I know a lot of classes that varies

[sacred zodiac]

ye wowhead is an accurate resource for warrior

[mortal crag]

Switch to other target with charge and by the time I arrive I send a slam into heroic strike reset

6 SLAMS INTO COLO SMASH

[tepid tartan]

Do we delay cs for 3-4 seconds to catch demolish when the windows don’t line up?

[slim vapor]

Max delay 10 secs

[flat willow]

thats a very specific question but as a general rule never delay cs

[tepid tartan]

Ok, do you just not press demo without cs? (Wowhead mentioned specifically when cs up)

[rose matrix]

In st you hold

AoE it's a bit different

For the most part you can just send it because you are getting a lot of cdr

If CS is like less than 10 seconds away

[flat willow]

in aoe situations you have so much cdr that you should always be able to press demolish in CS

[rose matrix]

I'd just hold Demolish in aoe but other than that I'd send it

[flat willow]

you can hold demolish for cs but you shouldn't hold cs for demolish

[tepid tartan]

Ok thanks 🙏

[latent moss]

rend

[vale warren]

That would make sense wouldn’t it? 🤣

[latent moss]

actions.slayer_aoe+=/cleave
actions.slayer_aoe+=/execute,if=buff.sudden_death.up|buff.executioners_precision.stack<2|rage>60
actions.slayer_aoe+=/overpower,if=talent.dreadnaught
actions.slayer_aoe+=/execute
actions.slayer_aoe+=/rend,if=dot.rend_dot.remains
actions.slayer_aoe+=/mortal_strike

[thorn stream]

In ST ?

[latent moss]

@mortal crag how insane is this tho

you can send ms with 2x ep and cs up over rend its within variance

[leaden garnet]

Orange parse for M Imperator

[latent moss]

nvm u cant

xddddddd

idk why it was simming within variance yesterday now its a loss

[leaden garnet]

Sorry did I say orange? It's actually pink

Poggy woggy

[latent moss]

pad or ethical

[leaden garnet]

Half and half

Didn't coordinate to pad since it's mostly a pug group, but also playing colo

[slow saddle]

So pad

[short crescent]

Lol

Collo is like only pad right? Or mob killing anyway

[slow saddle]

Y

[short crescent]

Tbf I don't really think killing adds is pad though, get those high parses however you can

[latent moss]

gg my r4 is now r36

[ashen night]

what are ppl using instead of WA now? i cant with this Blizz cdm anymore

[mortal crag]

If no 2ep and cs, u rend, no?

Actually insane rend is above ms unless u have 2ep and cs

[sacred zodiac]

depending on your talent setup i dont remember which one you need

[mortal crag]

So the aoe rotation is literally
Cleave
SD proc
Op
Exec
Rend
Ms
?

[latent moss]

u never ms

well u do but

its below rend

[flat willow]

what the hell did I just read

alright that's it

[latent moss]

this was simming within variance but now i resimmed and its just

[flat willow]

no more slayer

[latent moss]

a dps loss

[latent moss]

actions.slayer_aoe+=/cleave
actions.slayer_aoe+=/execute,if=buff.sudden_death.up|buff.executioners_precision.stack<2|rage>60
actions.slayer_aoe+=/overpower,if=talent.dreadnaught
actions.slayer_aoe+=/execute
actions.slayer_aoe+=/rend,if=dot.rend_dot.remains
actions.slayer_aoe+=/mortal_strike

[flat willow]

back to the no execute spec, you took it too far

[olive nest]

That’s strictly high target count

Like 8+

[latent moss]

its barely an increase to ms>rend

at 5t

[sacred zodiac]

what about 28 million targets

[latent moss]

spam rend

[mortal crag]

Ywah I mean if all on cd

[mortal crag]

What about 5 gajillion targets

Wait ok, first pull algethar

LMAO

Wtf do u do there

[latent moss]

6.2 morbillion

[sacred zodiac]

rend

[latent moss]

u dont ms

[mortal crag]

Is it literally

Yeah obv doggo

But

[flat willow]

at 5 gajillion targets I just play unholy

[mortal crag]

Is rend higher than say op there?

[sacred zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/that-friday-feeling-morbius-morbius-sweep-jared-leto-dr-micheal-morbius-gif-25674269

[latent moss]

no u just want to make sure

its 100% uptime on all mobs

[mortal crag]

https://tenor.com/view/morbius-im-about-to-morb-its-morbin-time-morbius-sweep-marvel-gif-25782014

Ms stands for morbius strike btw

[latent moss]

truth nuke

[flat willow]

then why isn't it top priority

[mortal crag]

Do we actually send slams today with new info?

Holy peak?

Slarms*

New apl dropped

[mortal crag]

This is 8t right?

So realistically basically every pull?

[latent moss]

y but its the same on 5t

[olive nest]

Bro when that guys vamp powers appear.. hollyy visual cinematic peak

[latent moss]

u can ms>rend on 5t for like

0.4%

[mortal crag]

Yy basically only on 3t or less?

U ms over rend?

[pastel whale]

https://tenor.com/view/jim-carrey-throw-up-puke-vomit-gagging-gif-16080834

[mortal crag]

Matt Smith is the only good thing about morbius

[latent moss]

morbius slander

[latent moss]

y

[flat willow]

I can't believe it

all morbius non believers, the fury channel is the next door to the right

[pastel whale]

https://tenor.com/view/zaruth-cat-closing-door-gif-7124770088060029268

[flat willow]

I just scream in vocal during the entire key " I'm in SINGLE TARGET BUILD " while blasting bladestorm

feels great finally doing boss damage

[mortal crag]

I'm just gonna scream that I'm morbing every time I spin

[mortal crag]

https://tenor.com/view/maintaining-the-agenda-agenda-is-priority-priority-agenda-maintain-the-agenda-the-agenda-gif-3278548794073012331

[latent moss]

its morbin time

[cedar cairn]

Still using my 6/6 Umbral plume, do any of you have any success with Heart of the wind? Having a hard time letting it go

[hasty pumice]

colossus morbins warrior2

MORB BY THE SWORD

[latent moss]

morbin arms warrior

[paper gulch]

is there anyway to get premade groups filter to filter out OCE groups

[vale warren]

What’s the hate with OCE? I’ve pugged m+ with them and had no issues

[grave mulch]

oh goodness

[flat willow]

ping

[paper gulch]

Its not hate, its ping.

[rose matrix]

Is it actually better damage to send execute above OP or just better prio?

[mortal crag]

You don't send exec above op

You send SD proc above op

Prio is

Cleave
SD proc
Op
Exec
Rend
Ms

If 5 targets or lower, ms>rend

[strange comet]

This is the exec slarms build ya?

[latent moss]

y

[royal escarp]

i use this talent

[vale warren]

Ahh that’s makes sense @flat willow @paper gulch I guess I don’t notice it? I’m in NY though

[mortal crag]

Can u check mass exec

Does it change anything?

Probs not?

[royal escarp]

i try some sim with mass exec it sim less then this one

0.1 diff

in Multi

and lot of loss in ST

[rose matrix]

Doesn't that apl have Execute above op if you're above 60 rage?

[olive nest]

https://tenor.com/view/take-a-look-stare-scary-angry-growling-gif-16072788

Peak cinema

[paper gulch]

as am I and my ping triples, theres no way yours doesnt

[vale warren]

Yeah I’ve only had one key where the tank was running in place 😂 I’ll have to pay attention the next time I queue with OCE.

[umbral linden]

how do you pump st as slarms now? saw some screenshots with 100+, cant do even remotely close, 90 at best

in m+ ofc

2ct build

[rose matrix]

High roll and get lucky

Also aug

[dim basalt]

95k-ish is possible without aug

[umbral linden]

bl-aug-rng
got it

[mortal crag]

It has it with SD

[mortal crag]

I sim 95k for full st 5min with all modifiers

With bl etc

So in a 4min with bl and not everything it drops to like 90k

So if u get 85+ ur fine

Unless it's like a pure patchwork boss with no mechanics

[umbral linden]

i guess it's rng of some sort, i just starve sometimes or get full spent, especially pre-execute

[rose matrix]

actions.slayer_aoe+=/execute,if=buff.sudden_death.up|buff.executioners_precision.stack<2|rage>60

Thought | meant or

[olive nest]

It does

[mortal crag]

Ah then I misread it

[tardy hawk]

Is everyone still playing collossus keys or are many testing slayer, finding it good?

[rose matrix]

Colossus in all but AA and SR

Slayer is more pug friendly

[dim basalt]

NPX also

And MT is debatable

[flat willow]

MT does have a lot of big boys to focus

but do I really wanna sacrifice my overall damage for the greater good of the key

[dim basalt]

be ethical

[ionic mica]

colo MT feels great til you are staring at the last boss

and his hp isnt moving

[rose matrix]

Tried to run my own key for the first time. Dps doesn't let tank gather and dies first pull in AA

Tank insta leaves

Take it from me, never do your own key. It's better to just wait in queue forever

[nova marsh]

Na

Just invite and vet better. Or take those losses on the chin and move on

*also ur first mistake was even whispering people after a failed key that never goes well

[hot barn]

This one or massacre build ?

[rose matrix]

Yeah you're right but it was a resil so I wasn't overly picky. Just wanted decent io

But I only whispered because he left for some reason instead of just waiting for the abandon vote

Which was like 30 seconds away

But still doing your own key is horrible

[nova marsh]

Na

Pugging in general is

Thats just how the dice roll of people always is

The only difference is you loose key levels, but since its resil I wouldnt be mad

[pale agate]

guys

is 19 xenas, ARMS SLAYER or COLOSSUS key ???

[nova marsh]

Its 10s have fun with it

[pale agate]

noo

19

sry

typ

[nova marsh]

Oh 19

Kinda depends on comp id say

If ur comp sucks in st id go slayer, if your st is fine id go colo. Both are capable.

[exotic horizon]

i reached a point where siming for slayer and closus give me tottaly diff stats . and i dont know what to aim for slayer or closus . closus is amazing for me in adds but when boss fight i feal boosted and usal pug wont bother change his pull so you can funnel in boss . arms single is good but his tottal is less than closus

[nova marsh]

Colo favors crit more then slayer does because it has more crit damage

I think slayer favors haste? Id just sim slayer

[rose matrix]

They both love crit I think

[nova marsh]

Yes

[rose matrix]

But Colossus does like it more

I believe at least

[nova marsh]

Exactly

[rose matrix]

I was pretty high on crit and Slayer still wanted more a while back when I swapped from Fury

[meager bay]

Good afternoon everyone, regarding Heroic Strike, do I use it when there's more than one target or only when facing a boss? I mean, in terms of priority?

[rose matrix]

You use it at 1-2 targets

Colossus it's top prio under cds and in Slayer it's below ms unless in execute where it goes to the top

You don't use it above 3 because it gets used automatically through Cleave

[onyx rapids]

the more i ply slayer
the more i pray for a SD Proc...

it really sucks

[exotic horizon]

not as much as slayer . crit value when closus is so much higher when i go slayer . haste is 1st and crit is 3rd

[steep walrus]

Anyone know of any arms coaches?

[dusty gazelle]

Read the guides.
Capture a video of your gameplay.
Look at your bars on the gameplay and hold the rotation guide next to it.
Check if you failed.

Or pay me 300$ per hour and I do the same thing.

[dire hinge]

can post in #1347646810457636974 and get insights from the community as well

[rose matrix]

Does Colossus have anything for the plungegrip

[ionic mica]

the bats in pit? nope

and even worse it can interrupt demolish

[rose matrix]

Ye I know

Feels terrible when you get selected

[ionic mica]

feels like demo should make you immune ngl

[rose matrix]

It should

[ionic mica]

bat stronger than arm

[rose matrix]

You basically can't do shit up there

[ionic mica]

play nelf and meld, then pray you dont get it again for 2mins

[rose matrix]

And it's timing is always when you are pressing demolish it feels like

[ionic mica]

or play with a monk/pal

[sudden owl]

they need to make the berserker rage talent remove roots too

And then just remove the pvp mini game from the game so they can make other good decisions

[rose matrix]

I tried pvp a while back in Shadowlands

It's just not that fun

The entire idea is just CC then burst

Never found it fun being cced all the time

[rancid willow]

basically...

[red lagoon]

so, I wanted to ask, what happens with arms? it was apparently buffed this week but on WL it is almost the last on raid

and if irc it was better poisitioned last week

[steep walrus]

Lets make it $30 an hour

Where is the arms rotation guide? Wow head?

[vale cradle]

Just press mortal strike and whatever lights up

[dusty gazelle]

[dusty gazelle]

Yea

Also there is a dps faq channel in this discord.

[umbral linden]

ty wise man

now i can bs AND meld
im immune to bats

[smoky garden]

can someone share a slayer build for scryreach

is the massacre one good?

[river tapir]

the massa one has better st but less aoe

and it could feel clunky without a shaman

[tranquil moth]

noob question. how to add socket to helmet?

[ember axle]

Item from the vault vendor bought with the tokens

[limber cove]

hello , is pre stacking before dung start still a thing or not working anymore

[thick kelp]

it is

[tranquil moth]

you only get that tokens by chosing them when u dont need anything from vault. right?

[ember axle]

correct

[tranquil moth]

raidbots is thinking my helmet has a socket and i cant change it

[ember axle]

click the + should have options to add/remove socket

[ember axle]

the pvp items add sockets too. idk if it would work or be worth the currency to apply the galactic varnish to your helm then apply the jewel setting

[dim forge]

is there a good resource to help decide between arms slayer/colossus between all the raid boss's M+ dungeons?

[smoky garden]

does anyone have a problem with tanks holding their aggro, from 2-3 days the moment i charge + rend and i get one tapped. i even w8 2-3sec for the tank to pull threat

is this some kind of bug, i know i'm not dealing that much dmg

[dim forge]

or do you need to just pick one because stats are different

[bold turret]

When i cleave while i have fervor of battle talented will it use the HS proc?

[nova marsh]

Yes

And you always want to cleave HS over manual presses for the 50% buff from fervor

[bold turret]

thank you

[rugged hill]

Happened a few times last night but I chalked it up to a combination of me being too early and tank being a little slow gathering

[nova marsh]

Stats arent that different

But in general id say aa and reach are hardcore slayer dungeons (particularly aa)

Evreything else colo will probally do equal or better in

[rose matrix]

Dude hunters are so troll on first boss AA

They delete the adds and do little to no funnel

[ember axle]

Yes. From my understanding the tanks are having tuning issues. Basically if not a brew, they’re struggling

[ebon jacinth]

guys, how do i install jundie plater

[thorn stream]

Copy his profile from wagio and import it in plater or platynator

[short crescent]

is wow analyzer up to date for arms?

[safe vigil]

I might be wrong, but I think Brewmaster's (likely the tank your'e playing with) starting using different hero talents (with less initial threat), and also the threat on some instant heal they had on pull was fixed (less snap threat), their initial aggro is really bad compared to what it was before

[smoky garden]

Happened on monk, and guardian so far 3-4 times

[safe vigil]

I also started dying a lot from just rend this week, I've actually stopped prestacking completely unless I have parry

[smoky garden]

im playing only pugs

[safe vigil]

Yeah guardian has less aggro while gathering for sure

[smoky garden]

thanks for the respond

[rose matrix]

With Guardian just try to pay attention to when they Thrash

I seem to be find most of the time if I see Thrash to prestack a bit

fine*

[smoky garden]

i'm i waiting 2-3 sec before i even charge

[dire hinge]

with guardian just macro iron fur into all of your builders and hold W until you reach the end of the dungeon tbh

[rose matrix]

Hopefully all the brew fotm reroll to bear

[smoky kayak]

turn this off (you should never have it on tbh)

[outer token]

any1 have an ayjie cdm setupfo arms

for arms*

[steep walrus]

I saw critcakez playing arms in POS

wonder if it was the execute build

I meant arms slayer

[rugged hill]

Well shit

[toxic osprey]

Just saw briefly his recount and MS wasn't that high so i guess ?

[mortal crag]

SLARMS TIME AGAIN

STREAM LIVE

[latent moss]

@minor gust how does it feel

to be the inventor

THE inventor

[mortal crag]

@minor gust LETS GO

SR20 INTO 21

SLARMS

[steep walrus]

i've been mostly playing colossus everywhere but I wonder since I seem to fucking suck if I just go slayer all the time

[thick kelp]

ARE YOU

POWERFUL

MOMENTUM

?

[steep walrus]

I can't seem to do any dmg rn

weird

idk why I feel so dang weak today

[spice field]

I just play like shit with slayer build bro i feel bad xDD

i can't get used to it even it's easier than CS

[mortal crag]

YES

[daring heron]

are we back

we are barack

[buoyant axle]

pog

[reef prairie]

Discord moment

[mortal crag]

what are the odds

critty is on my stream rn

[minor gust]

What happened what I do

[mortal crag]

im running slarms on key rn

ur build

[minor gust]

Was suspenseful waiting for discord to unshit itself

[mortal crag]

LMAO

[spice field]

please share any optimal build for slayer m+

🙁

[mortal crag]

streaming one rn

https://twitch.tv/ragishwow

[spice field]

waiting for the ads 'sigh'

[mortal crag]

sighhhhhhhhh

wish i could do 0 adds

[spice field]

thanks b ud

[minor gust]

I didn't invent shit that was head Chef Fishy Im just the line cook

Discord still shitting I can't @ fishy

[mortal crag]

which fishy

theres like 30

[gaunt owl]

the fishiest of the fishy

@fresh spire

[minor gust]

Wdym which fishy

Theres only one that matters

And he's a Krispy Shrimp 🍤

[gaunt owl]

Discord dying again

[forest mesa]

Do we still use the same talents after this week's changes and same rotation too if I understood correctly from updates channel? Asking for raid only

[gaunt owl]

its my fault i stopped using Nitro now they dont have the fund to keep it running smoothly

[cunning burrow]

hey there!! noob question time

wich warrior dps spec is more easy atm? fury or arms

[sacred zodiac]

fury maybe

they're both pretty easy

[vagrant hull]

Fury is always easier, just make sure you have crayons for snacks and you are g2g

Go read a guide before you ask the fury channel for a talent build.

[halcyon valve]

overpower is so back

highest damaging ability in my keys rn running slayer

that includes dreadnaught of course but u get it

[mortal crag]

arms is easier

50000%

anyone saying anything else is omegacoping

[spice field]

i don't agree with that actually you might be right about the gameplay like you smash your keyboard in fury and following the true rotation within faster gameplay can be hard

but the complexity of arms is something else

[robust cypress]

eh?

[spice field]

i have 1.2k crit, 819 haste, 200 mastery those are my current stats on arms

i feel like mastery is a bit low

do you think it's ideal or not?

people??

[nova marsh]

Sim

Ask the robot

Altough id say its low if you specifically off spec fury

[mortal crag]

OMEGA disagree

even more

[nova marsh]

How is it not

[mortal crag]

it is NOT intuitive to hold rampages until max rage, to prio bt over all, to click WW over rb

to send tclap on cd when above 6 mobs

[nova marsh]

Imo its fine

[mortal crag]

its fine =/= its intuitive

[nova marsh]

You can normally reason all of that

[mortal crag]

its reasonable =/= intuitive

u give someone arms u tell them u spam cleave

theyll figure it out

you give someone fury u tell them u spam bt

theyll lose their mind on reck priorities

[nova marsh]

Oh

I forgot about reck prioilrities

Leemee delete that

[mortal crag]

🙂

fury is NOT intuitive this season

its not hard

but arms is

omega braindead

[nova marsh]

Typically it is intuive

I mean

I dont even agree that much that arms is omega braindead

At least compared to most specs now

[spice field]

bro it's not about spamming cleave it's just our opening and during warbreaker, what we do besides that is the important thing

you gotta focus on that

[nova marsh]

Maybe its placebo cuz I dont play evrey spec in the game

[flat willow]

idk arms isn't hard but once in a while you gotta charge weave which is pretty annoying without a damn swing timer

[nova marsh]

Hard isnt intuitive

[flat willow]

but every spec is pretty brain dead in midnight

[spice field]

nah we're not arguing on arms is a hard class we're comparing with fury

[spice field]

TRUE

[nova marsh]

Yeah idk why people say a specfic spec is braindead

Rn evreyone kinda is

[vagrant hull]

Yeah most specs are simple. Fury is just easier than arms in almost every situation.

[spice field]

what's the hardest class in wow right now tho?

i think elemental shaman but i am curious about ur ideas

[flat willow]

I heard they dumbed down shadow priest which was my default answer when asked that question since I never played the spec

all mage specs are braindead

[vagrant hull]

I only have time for warrior, so I'm not a good person to ask

[flat willow]

so idk, outlaw?

[nova marsh]

Dunno if its the hardest but its gotta be up there

[spark mango]

guys, this new slayer build without battlelord

[nova marsh]

Fucking discord

[flat willow]

you gotta react to your procs, which is probably more than any other spec asks

[slow saddle]

Arms just press execute

[spark mango]

it feels like just upsides when playing it

feels like i dont lose anytthing going for execute talents

[flat willow]

and outlaw gets punished more than other specs for mistakes