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mortal crag
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then 2min later again

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so a 6min sim might not get the last cast

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or itll get the cast and then the sim ends

maiden notch
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can u leap on last boss skyreach?

granite sun
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looking at wowhead opener for multi target its defaulting to colossus, how do i open if im playing slayer?

ionic mica
low pond
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Any1 got a link to slayer exe build?

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for M+ that is

ionic mica
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CcEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAgZmZmFzYmZGAAAghphxYmZzMzMzYmxMDAAAAgxyMDsFGLbDsAGwMMhMD2AzMMMY2mZbAmZAwYYA

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i think thats what you want

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you can move powerful momentum somewhere else if you like

ionic mica
low pond
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thanks dude

ionic mica
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yw ๐Ÿ™‚ was on the wowhead page for Steak anyway so not much extra

clever crag
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damn how is warrior still so shitty lol

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almost bottom on most bosses

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both specs

smoky kayak
tranquil moth
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Watching logs seems that Fury is eating the toast to Arma in most raid bosses

stable fiber
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LMAO

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i look so boosted

pulsar frost
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How much was the 21 boost ๐Ÿค” monkahmm

mortal crag
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@hasty pumice hall of fame moment

pulsar frost
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I saw your 14 seat kha

stable fiber
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we timed it with 0.2 seconds left on the timer

pulsar frost
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Can't convince me not boosted

mortal crag
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khazix57 more like boostzix57

stable fiber
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dude i died

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4 times

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gg

mortal crag
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drop the breakdown

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slarms?

stable fiber
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its not good

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i died in cds

mortal crag
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ms-less build?

stable fiber
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like 3 times

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slarms

pulsar frost
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How one get 19 deaths in a 14 smh

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Geoup wise I mean

mortal crag
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@stable fiber this?

stable fiber
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ye

strange comet
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Just on wowlogs?

short crescent
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am I stupid (yes) or is there no way to use the default CDM to track rend duration on a mob? For my assassination rogue, CDM lets me put an icon that shows how long the bleed has remaining

granite sun
# ionic mica

thats the rotation tab, if you flip to the opener that toggle doesnt show up

ionic mica
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slayer is just press cds then cleave

vagrant hull
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Honestly end up using the unit frames more often and ignoring rend on my CDM. But yes it's there

short crescent
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Yeah, but for my rogue it will like change the button to show the duration, so I can quickly glance at it and see I don't need to press rupture for another 30 seconds or whatever

echo ibex
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is wowhead updated on our rotation for the new patch?

vagrant hull
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ah, that would be cool but I don't know how to do that on the CDM, or if it's possible

tacit crystal
stable fiber
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stomply resil 21's

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the goat mistweaver

tacit crystal
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gg

uneven minnow
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imagine doing resil's smh

tacit crystal
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do that a few more times and you pass me

tranquil moth
uneven minnow
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weapon helm chest legs are the high stat slots right

pulsar frost
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Ye

vast kernel
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yo o/ is there a way to track the overall duration (20 sec) of the rend? cdm look at the current target

smoky kayak
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No, and that wouldnโ€™t work very well when it came to refreshing timers separately anyway

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Nameplates will show the debuff on each target though

winged phoenix
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Are male orc sounds fixed yet

gray herald
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execute build is fun!!

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just a weekly but feels good man

heavy heron
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raid dmg feels terrible ๐Ÿซ 

woeful kelp
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Is shaman raid buff bugged

deft bluff
pulsar frost
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our damage is ok, fine, just mid

elder patrol
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hi ! in slayer arms build m+, we want overpower >> MS in multitarget ?

vast tinsel
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Yes

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And take tactician

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Sorry oppurtunist

sacred zodiac
mild sierra
heavy heron
sacred zodiac
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i mean ur melee on alleria what do you expect

nova marsh
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If u expect good damage on a high downtime fight for melee

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Dunno what to tell ya

heavy heron
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idk what you are going on about, i just said it felt terrible

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maybe it feels great for you

nova marsh
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I dont disagree but like

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Ur complaining about alleria specifically

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Probably the worst fight for melee in a while, and the worst fight for melee in this tier by a longshot

wind hatch
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its also just p1 rng lol

nova marsh
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...

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Im not lol

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I just think its goofy

pulsar frost
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its ok

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he gets triggered easily

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but we like him decently enough

nova marsh
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Smh yall are ragebaiters

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Also

rose matrix
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So how we looking in raid

nova marsh
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Evrey discord needs a trash player

rose matrix
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Bad enough to get another small buff?

pulsar frost
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woah

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are you calling the guy who asked or said it is bad?

nova marsh
pulsar frost
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thats messed up

nova marsh
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Not u guys

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Trust me

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If you can even step foot into mythic

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You are better

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109%

pulsar frost
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i mean you can probably just pug dreamrift or imp

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even i dcan

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and im not that good raider

nova marsh
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I mean I have considered dreamrift

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Cuz my trinkets are garbo

tight basin
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So after some testing, what is damage difference between slayer and col in m+=

pulsar frost
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need heart mna

nova marsh
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I heard vora was rougher

pulsar frost
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idk vora is kinda easy

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count 3

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hit adds, break walls

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hit boss

nova marsh
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Na

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Let evreyone else hit adds

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Nuke boss

pulsar frost
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we have nuke boss damage?

nova marsh
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In my dreams

pulsar frost
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chimmy easier in the sense since its 1 boss lockout youcan just join another group easier then vora

paper dove
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Anyone know why top Warrior players are always night elf?

pulsar frost
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shadowmeld

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is a very strong racial for keys

spice field
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critcake

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oh

paper dove
spice field
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i'ts because crit and haste %1 buff

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ig

paper dove
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true thats actually bis

pulsar frost
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thats dif not it

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plus panda would be better then

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or humans 1/2% every stat

rare kite
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Nah it's just meld

pulsar frost
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its either panda or dwarf is the meta races

nova marsh
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Idk

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Vanish on evrey class is p good

grim oasis
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meld is insane

pulsar frost
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being able to meld the annoying shit is better

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like MT

grim oasis
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haste/crit buff nice too

pulsar frost
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like in MT you can meld off being targeted by runic glaive

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being targeted by 2 at the same time? meld

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getting beamed by the robt? meld

grim oasis
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even melding one at all goes hard

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stops the cast completely

pulsar frost
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charge rend ripped aggro off the bear tank? (pre buff)

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meld

paper dove
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yeah meld would have saved my ass plenty times by now

spice field
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which dungeon are best for slayer build

pastel whale
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we were born with the aggro, melded by it

pulsar frost
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i would be nelf but like

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id rather not race change again

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enjoying the panda animations

grim anchor
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whats the difference in rotation moving from colassus to slayer?>

pastel whale
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big

pastel whale
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colossus is a lot more complex than slayer

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slayer is much much easier

spice field
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can you tell the rotation differences tho? i wonder why it's easier

pulsar frost
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i think cause for some folks having to get stacks and working around demo is harder then slayer, at least for newer players

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slayers is just cleave on cd, bs on big packs and thats about it

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that and demo if tank moves out just sucks unelss you leap with demo

mortal crag
mortal crag
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Colossus just needs a tank to play for u

pulsar frost
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i agree

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i dont think col is that much harder, funnel is funnel

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but overall wise its not that hard imo

mortal crag
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Slayer 3 weeks ago I would say is the dumbest variation of arms

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Now I would say slayer is harder than Colo

spice field
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arms itself is the most complex class in wow imo

mortal crag
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Hot take

pastel whale
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i meant more the CD side of colossus is a lot different to slayer though

mortal crag
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U just fucking send shit nonstop

pastel whale
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no

mortal crag
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Colo doesn't have cds

pastel whale
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no

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no

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no

mortal crag
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Yes

pulsar frost
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its true tho

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even archi said

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lol

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you can legit send Demo on cd now

pastel whale
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the fuck

mortal crag
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U just don't send Ava or ravaged

pastel whale
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after patch?

mortal crag
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Without anything

pulsar frost
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yes?

mortal crag
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Yes?

pulsar frost
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demo comse up so quick dude

mortal crag
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U can literally send demo without como

stable fiber
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colossus is the easier spec imo

mortal crag
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Colo

stable fiber
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but

mortal crag
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Colossus is omega braindead lol

pulsar frost
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ye

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shits mad easy

mortal crag
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U get double demolish in one cs

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RAAAA

pastel whale
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lol well fuck biz then

mortal crag
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? Bizs guide us

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Is pre patch

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It's out of date

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It was literally made a week before the changes

pastel whale
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true, i didnt think colo changes at all

paper dove
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Played Slayer and Col 3 weeks ago, Slayer felt easier, But now they both feel kinda equal tbh

mortal crag
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He isn't inherently wrong at all

spice field
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biz shared that a month ago bro

mortal crag
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But some changes have been made lulw

pastel whale
mortal crag
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Bro had a meltdown spamming no

mortal crag
pulsar frost
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Col change was before this patch

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The patch before

mortal crag
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There was a Colo change 3 weeks ago

pastel whale
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ahhhhhhhh mb

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i must of missed that

mortal crag
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Bruva

pastel whale
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brev

mortal crag
mortal crag
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On another note

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SLARMS IS BACK

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FURY NOT ON TOP

paper dove
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I got so used to playing col, i still do no ST damage even with Slayer

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dunno what i am doing wrong there

mortal crag
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The no ms talents?

paper dove
pastel whale
mortal crag
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Before slam maybe but it depends on rage

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Ur st rotation is pretty much
SD proc > exec > overpower > ms > slam

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Kinda

paper dove
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with these?

mortal crag
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Uhhhhhhh

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Ye

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Altho I think I play powerful momentum iirc

drifting warren
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Double EP MS doesn't come before exec?

mortal crag
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I think that does

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I just meant out of exec phase ig

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But natty ms you only press as filler kinda ig

paper dove
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so in exec phase aways do 2 exe > 1 Ms

mortal crag
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I still didn't rly get used to it but

mortal crag
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Or if u get sudden death

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Iirc sudden death is a guaranteed reap

paper dove
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yeah SD procs feel so good to press

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but i they are so few

mortal crag
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Js about high or low rolling

paper dove
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i feel like 3 weeks ago it procced more frequent

mortal crag
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All I can say is that I finished first pull nxp21 on nearly 600k

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As SLARMS

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So it's defo gaming

paper dove
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with 0 stacks on bs?

mortal crag
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I didn't prestack

paper dove
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damn

mortal crag
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I mean we bricked it ofc and ofc the one we timed I finished that pack 400

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But I still finished that pack close to 600 so I take it

paper dove
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is SLARMS overall viable now in every key or should just be taken in specific ones#

mortal crag
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I think it's viable in every key

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It's not bis in every key

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But it's playable

rose matrix
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Dude

mortal crag
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I would prioritize it in sr, ws, nxp, aa

rose matrix
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I might like Colossus over Slayer

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It feels so bad in st when you just get 0 sd

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Which happens a lot

mortal crag
rose matrix
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Yea but Colossus aoe is so much better to play imo

mortal crag
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It's also way easier

paper dove
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What i hate about both, having no rage and being afk mid fight for 3 secons

mortal crag
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Or maybe ur dropping rend

paper dove
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rend generates rage?

mortal crag
mortal crag
iron frigate
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is arms giga after these buffs? really wanna play it but my main is like the worst dps rn so i like meta alts ๐Ÿ˜„

mortal crag
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Go read bloodsurge

mortal crag
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It's great

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But it's not meta

iron frigate
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i mean not meta, just great works for me

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do either specs feel fun to play after tuning? tuning ruined a lot of the classes for me

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looking at havoc ๐Ÿ™

paper dove
mortal crag
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HOLYYYY

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Chat clip this

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Yes u want to play with bloodsurge

paper dove
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this is embarassing

rose matrix
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Pretty sure Slayer didn't

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Colossus does

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Idk if it changed for Slayer

drifting warren
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To be fair a lot of the builds going around for SL Arms are not running it

mortal crag
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I cannot imagine a reason why either spec won't play it

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I could be omega degen from playing nothing but colossus for 3 weeks straight

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But lemme check

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Nope I play it

minor gust
mortal crag
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Maybe I trolled?

minor gust
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Def

mortal crag
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Idk, no rage issues and I cranked

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So

minor gust
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Slayer also doesn't need that rage that bloodsurge provides

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Link your talents what did you not have for bloodsurge lol

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Curious how much you trolled

mortal crag
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Wait nvm it's raid talents I think

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1s

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I might be double trolling

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Lemme check old sims

minor gust
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Would be really funny if you forgot FOB

minor gust
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That doesn't have bloodsurge!

mortal crag
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Yeah ur right

pastel whale
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Bloodpurge

minor gust
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How did you like running PM instead of mass exe? @mortal crag

mortal crag
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I apologise @paper dove

drifting warren
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Chat, clip this.

mortal crag
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So all I can say is that I obscenely demolished prio targets

paper dove
minor gust
mortal crag
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But maybe mass exec should still have been taken

minor gust
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Fat execute cleaving

mortal crag
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Since we did have some big pulls

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And we did funnel me

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Like my boss damage was just nasty

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Almost 100k first
200k second
And like 90k 3rd

stable fiber
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has anyone tried IMP sweep

paper dove
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Time to gift Blizzard 25โ‚ฌ for a race change and trying my best to not feel robbed

stable fiber
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lowkey think its good

mortal crag
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It sims the same

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And I'm scared it's just simbait

stable fiber
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i think its good asf if ur chaining

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more sweep uptime

mortal crag
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I mean kinda ig but I didn't really feel sweep issues?

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Khazix u timed Sr21

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Surely u can test it in some 22s no?

stable fiber
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i went from 12 sr to 21 sr

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i for sure know what is going on

rose matrix
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What cutoff are you guys sending Execute over op in st?

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60 rage?

mortal crag
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In st?

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Hmmge

rose matrix
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In m+ in st

mortal crag
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I kinda feelycraft it

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65-70 sounds abt right tho I think

rose matrix
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I have been doing about 70 and keeping op at 1 charge if I can

mortal crag
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Tmy gave me a cranked tip though

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Arms is literally just flow

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Apl can say whatever it wants

stable fiber
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just push the buttons

mortal crag
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if it flows well it's probably good

rose matrix
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Feels weird just smashing execute in aoe

mortal crag
ripe field
mortal crag
ripe field
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just a joke that it doesnt feel great to press sweeing strikes

mortal crag
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Idm pressing it

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I just click it when main ability is on cd

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E.g I'll hold it on 1 gcd to send a cleave

pastel whale
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better than pressing puzzle box ๐Ÿ™ƒ

mortal crag
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Then sweep

ripe field
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True

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I have puzzle box myth on my alt warrior

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Its pain

pastel whale
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i just drop it

mortal crag
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Ur gcds outside of ur main spells don't matter

pastel whale
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heart and alnseer for me

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fuck puzzle

mortal crag
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Cleave > 2 useless gcds > cleave

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That's ur rotation

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On both slarms and col

paper dove
ripe field
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That'd be insane. The class would feel too good. Blizz would have to intervene

paper dove
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As we all know, fun is not allowed

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ask Mage

ripe field
hybrid needle
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What in the world is that list for

elder zealot
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Yeah you can't just post a random chart with no labels or context

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it could mean anything

minor gust
pastel whale
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tbh mages can do one, they always strong every patch

brazen jacinth
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with critcake bringing fury to lura today and seeing some good numbers, anyone in lura prog considering to swap over to fury? I'm about 100 pulls in as arms and hesitant to swap. Think it really doesn't matter too much. Arms seems to have better damage later and fury is better on ads? Anyone have solid input?

pastel whale
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isnt lura super execute heavy?

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tbh fury now has execute at a higher prio than BT so this might be why

latent basin
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Is there any reason why my raid leader doesnt want me to SS the first add on p3 on crown mythic?

neat crane
sacred zodiac
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you can play fury if you need more crystal damage iirc but then what are you even doing

pastel whale
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Yeah Iโ€™m pretty sure arms will always come out on top in lura

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Critcake is a fury lover so could be why he switched now itโ€™s more inline with recent buffs

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Doesnโ€™t necessarily mean itโ€™s better

neat crane
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critcake loves whatever is good

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he doesnt care which spec

pastel whale
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Iโ€™d say he favours fury over arms though

neat crane
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cuz fury's been arguably better for far more tiers recently

pastel whale
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True

brazen jacinth
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thanks for the input peeps! I agree, made the game time decision to stay on arms for pulls tonight

pastel whale
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Gl gl!

outer terrace
blissful tinsel
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Guess the buffs weren't enough lmao

pastel whale
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Whatโ€™s that for?

blissful tinsel
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Mythic over the last week

pastel whale
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On all bosses?

blissful tinsel
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ya

neat crane
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i mean the patch has been out 2 days

grim oasis
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simply play better and youll beat 90% of your raid

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shrimple

neat crane
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so its still using pre-patch nubmers as well

pastel whale
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Iโ€™m guessing he filtered to 1 day info

blissful tinsel
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Gimme another 10%

grim oasis
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this is 1 day

pastel whale
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Middle of the pack

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Not terrible

grim oasis
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bosses that matter

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no data really for lura

neat crane
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thats a good spot to be in dude, middle. considering this raid sucks for fury anyways

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we have a doo-doo tier set, and actually sim pretty well

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we get a half decent tier set next tier, we're laughing

pastel whale
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True

neat crane
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(baring we dont get raid design cucked again)

grim oasis
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.7 is also likely to be another big tuning pass

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as its the "real" .5 patch

pulsar frost
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Extends smash

neat crane
pastel whale
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Yeah we need more mechanic heavy ST bosses man, enough of this ADDS ON EVERY BOSS shit

neat crane
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more of just a minor content patch

pulsar frost
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They'll be a patch for m+ title push

grim oasis
pulsar frost
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Alqays is

grim oasis
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this .7 is more inline with the usual .5 patches

rugged hill
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Help:
arms slayer M+ opener for multitarget: charge - potion - avatar - rend - cs - bladestorm - cleave spam - prioritize execute>overpower>mortal strike ?

Not sure what I'm doing wrong but I can't seem to get the numbers I'm seeing other warriors pull when starting a big pull.

pastel whale
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Where is CS

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Colossus smash isnโ€™t in your opener

wraith lichen
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Isnt CS right there after rend

pastel whale
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Oh it is

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MH

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Mb

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Iโ€™m blind

pastel whale
rugged hill
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by a good amount

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is the priority order correct?

pastel whale
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Are your stat prios correct with good trinks? The opener looks fine to me

rugged hill
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followed the wowhead info... got the duo nexus rings, pit weapon at myth full upgrade. 280 ilvl

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idk. maybe i'm just slow lol

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felt like I was doing better as colossus before the patch

pastel whale
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Hmm not sure then, keeping sweeping strikes active after opener?

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The stacks go pretty quick

rugged hill
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yea they go fast

pastel whale
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There will always be a point where you have like 3 seconds downtime between sweeping strikes

ripe field
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hitting sweeping strikes during the initial dungeon countdown and asking your tank to put a couple of GCDs into a mob while they gather so you can hit mortal strike 1-3 times

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can really help opener

pastel whale
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Yeah plus also popping your potion pre key start so you have an extra 15 seconds of burst

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Depending on key ofc

rugged hill
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big one I feel it in is AA

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that opener man ppl in group doing 500-600k dps

pastel whale
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AA depends on your tank

rugged hill
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and i'm at like 270

pastel whale
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And your positioning

ripe field
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That and recklessness pot takes most Arms war crit from ~35% to ~65%. Mortal strike critting cuts down on number of GCDs to hit 10 stacks

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meaning getting into your burst more quickly

latent moss
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i mean

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we are also capped quite aggressively

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cleave is 5 softcap

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at 25 targets

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its not doing much

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losing deep wounds didnt help for that pull

pastel whale
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270 does seem low though for AA first pull

minor gust
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You feel the soft caps as arms

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First pull AA moment

latent moss
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oh it is low for sure

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u should be doing 500ish prolly

rugged hill
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Yeah I watched biz he was doing over double that

minor gust
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We don't have thunderous roar anymore

latent moss
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we have no uncapped aoe anymore

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aside from rend

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and rend does a lot on that pull

minor gust
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I did 450k in an 18 as slayer for first pull AA

pastel whale
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A lot of it is positioning though

latent moss
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always is

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with arms

rugged hill
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yeah I feel like I struggle staying on a lasher

latent moss
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u gotta actually hit mobs

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with cleave

rugged hill
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with all the poison shit

latent moss
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stand on tank

pastel whale
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Yeah and if your group is just randomly ccโ€™ing everything as the tank moves, itโ€™s infuriating

latent moss
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y

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ngl its just a terrible pull for us in general

pulsar frost
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Itd vastly different how range is on that fight. Played my boimkin. Stayed in the back and did dam near a mill

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Meanwhile my warrior deadge

latent moss
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classic ranged in m+

pastel whale
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An arms warrior is generally as good as the team he plays with, as having a good tank can make the difference

pulsar frost
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Expecting tank to move right then moved left

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Cries inside

pastel whale
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๐Ÿ˜‚

rugged hill
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yea i only pug into groups with shamans now

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as adviced lol

pastel whale
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Fair lol

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WE NEED THAT SKYFURY YO

pulsar frost
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Those are rare man

pastel whale
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yeah ele shaman getting a beating this patch

pulsar frost
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I need to buy a cheap shaman somewhere

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Not even ele

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Judt them in general like resto

olive nest
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bruh.. progged bird and had tons of pulls where we die right before second egg and im at like 130k and then the pull we kill i die on the last group soak becuase its on me and i didnt dstance zzzzzzzzz

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g

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g

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gg

pastel whale
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Your telling me your group let a warrior into bird?

latent moss
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arms owns now

olive nest
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yeah i was owning most pulls

pastel whale
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Not 2/2/22 paladin hunter fest

olive nest
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ez 120-130k top 5

pulsar frost
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Why wouldn't arms be allowed on a exe boss

pastel whale
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Because they love 2/2/22

latent moss
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bro what did paladin do ๐Ÿ˜ญ

hybrid needle
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Imagine being top5 with 130k in egg

pulsar frost
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You're still one of the best exe specs

olive nest
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i mean were a world 500 team

pulsar frost
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Given you get lucky with SD and not rage deprived

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Kek

pastel whale
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Ohhh I read it as pugged ๐Ÿ˜‚

olive nest
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pretty solid numbers

pastel whale
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Not progged

pulsar frost
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No one's pugging bird

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Dont think at least

pastel whale
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Not myth no

pulsar frost
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Maybe a few weeks from now

leaden garnet
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Unless it's heroic bird, and nobody's pulling 130k on heroic bird

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Context clues

pulsar frost
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Well its brew

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We all know folks be talking about mythic

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Who flexes heroic bosses

leaden garnet
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People without mythic raising guilds

pulsar frost
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Its ok im not in one either

minor gust
rose matrix
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What we think

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Colossus or Slayer in a 19 NPX

flat willow
rose matrix
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Lol

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I tried Slayer for a few lower keys earlier and it didn't feel as good as some people were making it sound

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I would agree slightly lol

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Can they just make shaman a tank spec already

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Way higher chance of the buff

paper dove
rose matrix
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Yea

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I am sending more around 70 rage not 60

paper dove
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you guys are having rage in execute phase?

rose matrix
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For Slayer

minor gust
paper dove
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if you have no OP charge, but 30 rage, what do you press? exe?

minor gust
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Exe

rose matrix
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Yea just hit execute

minor gust
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Better than not pressing anything

rose matrix
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And be rage starved until you get bs

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or get a shaman

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Another good thing about slayer is you can remove some of those roots in dungeons

paper dove
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Can blizzard pls finally move on from classes having downtime because of 20 year old resource management?

minor gust
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Rage is just a massive issue because it's impossible to balance for modern arms.

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Too much RNG sources for Gen and spending rage.

paper dove
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i'd rather have it cosmetic just like Mana is cosmetic for Damage Casters (except arcane)

rose matrix
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You guys running stance mastery in Slayer too?

latent moss
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yes

hybrid needle
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Slayer? Whats that

pulsar frost
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I do like colo more i think. Havwnt played much slayer besides my vault has been busy

hybrid needle
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"Fun" he said

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No rts on ms isnt fun ๐Ÿ˜ข

minor gust
minor gust
quiet bramble
olive nest
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@stable fiber was the 1:15 pot intentional?

stable fiber
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2nd set of crystals

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its still up for the lust execute

olive nest
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kk havent gotten there just was curious

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tyty

stable fiber
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dont do 3rd set of crystals

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or itsa not

rose matrix
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Dude Slarms is not that good

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Idk why yall are on about lol

olive nest
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yes it is

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play it better

rose matrix
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It's better

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But it doesn't even compete with Colossus still outside of 2 dungeons

pulsar frost
pulsar frost
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Just not as high

sudden owl
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I feel like the not getting to attack for 15 seconds part of this beloren guy is really making the rng coarse

reef glade
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the like dmg stop? or u mean him just flying in the air

sudden owl
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The stop and then him fucking off yeah

reef glade
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yea i mean stop a little annoying especially if ur super ahead

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but some small things arms can do to improve egg dmg a bit and dmg overall that phase is like sling 2 exes right as he's about to fly up so u get double EP mortal strike as you land on the egg

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you also could/should have some stacks of heroic might up going into egg which is big with lust/pot

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but yea not too much else to do but just sit there and chill

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explode some birds in p1 and stuff

sudden owl
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Yeah the variance between slayer strike, sd procs and heroic strike procs is wild tho

reef glade
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yea during the egg is when its p significant with all cds/buffs n stuff

sudden owl
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Some eggs I get two bladestorms and do 215k some I get one and no procs and do like 140k

reef glade
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yea

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happens sadga

rose matrix
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That's why slayer feels bad imo

reef glade
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just needs manaforge 2pc in tree

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and its perfect

rose matrix
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ST is a roll of the dice

reef glade
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truth supernova

minor gust
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That's my only complaint really for slayer specifically. Solve the extreme RNG that it has and that spec is pretty perfect

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Could use a reap proc buff on cleave too but that's minor af

rose matrix
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I tried it in m+

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Sometimes I just get nothing in st

cunning smelt
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Make an executioner prock like 30% but half the effect

rose matrix
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AoE is also pretty random

minor gust
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It's weird that BS CDR from slayer has 2 layers of RNG which is what makes it feel awful. You have the Slayer strikes RNG and SD RNG

rose matrix
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I mean st colossus is bad but I think slarms feels much worse to play

minor gust
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Well BS isn't exactly consistent

rose matrix
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Yeah bs is not at all

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It's pretty bad tbh

minor gust
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Tbh is not that bad because you don't always wanna send a 2nd BS at the end of the pack

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You have to be smart with BS as slayer

flat willow
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My overalls go from 150 to 200 k and I swear it's purely rng I play exactly the same

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But sometimes I have bladestorm on every pack

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Sometimes I'm a piece of shit

minor gust
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Which is what really determines overall

flat willow
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Idk col feels pretty consistent, I just wish the single target wasn't so damn disgusting

minor gust
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Idk my overalls as Slayer usually feel pretty consistent

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Like obviously it varies between dungeon, but if I run the same dungeon twice my overalls are usually pretty close

pulsar frost
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i find my col pretty constant, im almost always at the tyop of the meters for overall, ST is a hit or miss, as long they buff or fix it i think col would be completely fine

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ofc i dont get funnel so ST bad anyways

nova marsh
minor gust
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Colossus rng exists but it's not crazy like slayer

nova marsh
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Depends

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Well

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Actually no

minor gust
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Colo is just did you Crit and how many BLord procs did you get

nova marsh
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I dont like colos rng but slayer is INSANELY swingy

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I dont need to feel like arms is outlaw lite

latent moss
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but its just crits xdd

nova marsh
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at least arms dosent have purple buff to make me wonna slam my desk

minor gust
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I like RNG for procs that's healthy and Crit but RNG for CDR is pretty bad gameplay

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Hopefully we could get a BS CDR change

latent moss
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if ur spec feels shit without good rng

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its just bad design

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i dont dislike procs or rng but

nova marsh
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Ehhh

latent moss
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not getting blord or tactician

nova marsh
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I feel like it depends lije

latent moss
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makes colo play like horseshit

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slayer too

nova marsh
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Outlaw rng is half the selling point

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But like

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It isnt for arms

latent moss
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idk outlaw anymore but back when i played

nova marsh
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When I think "master tactican"

latent moss
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u played kir and if u were good

nova marsh
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I dont think dice roll

latent moss
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u could somewhat control

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ur rolls

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i mean if

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we didnt have

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90000 impales

nova marsh
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Yeah you still can

latent moss
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maybe the delta betweencrits and non crits

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wouldnt be that big

nova marsh
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With kir, loaded dice, the stage system

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But then you have BTE resets keksquad

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But outlaw aside, Id rather we just have impale

minor gust
#

then talents bring certain abillities to like 50%

nova marsh
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Give ms 50% cc

latent moss
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for as long as i can remember

stable sapphire
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@stable fiber just beasted lura

latent moss
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arms parses were dictated by crits

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obv not fully ye

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but played a big role

nova marsh
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Thats true

nova marsh
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But like....you can kinda argue that with any crit spex

latent moss
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if u were parsing in the rank 15-20 range its usually just crits

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i mean i remember

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some korean arms

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with 80% ms crit

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on smolderon

nova marsh
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Holy fuck

latent moss
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and 70% exe

nova marsh
latent moss
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like how do i compete with that

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swordish did like

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221k

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on egg

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80% ms crit

nova marsh
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So

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Delete crit

latent moss
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like how mm got aimed shot

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apex

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and collapsing star apex

nova marsh
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...id mention outlaw cuz it is a crit spec but zero in exists

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So I do see ur point

latent moss
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can coup

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not crit

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iirc coup is ur only hard hitter

nova marsh
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No

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Bte fucks

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That shit on a crit is kinda nasty

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But like u said

latent moss
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idk they changed that spec too much havent played it since s3 df

minor gust
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Outlaw abillities dont do dmg its all bladeflurry

latent moss
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real

nova marsh
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Ur not wrong

latent moss
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i mean what makes ms not critting extra bad

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is when u spend 80 rage buffing it

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(2 exe)

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and it hits for 60k cause it didnt crit

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or 3 billion if it did crit

nova marsh
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I feel like reck just as cc wouldve been good for arms

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Or maybe do something like zero in for arms

latent moss
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whats zero in

minor gust
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I have aligned 3 different MS modifiers now just win the crit dice roll

nova marsh
latent moss
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that kinda owns no

nova marsh
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Dont recall if the aas need to crit

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Yes

stable fiber
nova marsh
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Its so good you take dagger OH

latent moss
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ms always crits

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:))))

latent moss
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classic

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outlaw always gets something that makes them wanna dagger oh

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istg

nova marsh
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Goated mog combo thou

minor gust
nova marsh
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Demolish always crits

minor gust
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now if the apex was CS makes MS and Exe always crit

stable sapphire
minor gust
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then we cooking

nova marsh
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Next tier yes frozen

stable sapphire
nova marsh
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Cuz the provlem rn is cs uptime is stupid

latent moss
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axe bis i heard

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(cope)

minor gust
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im right there with you

minor gust
stable sapphire
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Saj

stable fiber
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and im...

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playing holy priest

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chills

latent moss
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chudmaxxing

stable fiber
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this spec fun asf tho

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i cant lie

latent moss
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what do i coin

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i dont wanna coin algethar cause i will just guidon surely

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dont wanna coin skyreach cause no weapon

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windrunner has giga ahh pieces

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algethar and pray i dont get the fucking other trinket

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dragon games equipment

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fuckass trinket

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i need semi human gear before applying to chim pugs for gaze

sharp flame
latent moss
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idk haste is simming like ahh

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i dont think unholy wants haste

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u just get guidon

sharp flame
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this is warrior disc

latent moss
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so u have haste in army

limber valve
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nah this is his personal blog

latent moss
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no one talks about warrior here

sharp flame
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LMAO

limber valve
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i think you spend more time typing here than anything else

latent moss
rose matrix
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you ever forget to repair before a m+

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And one death and you're fucked

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I need to buy some repair bots

latent moss
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idk they used to be cheap

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get an addon that screams at u when durability is low

rose matrix
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Might have to

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I was living on the edge in this Sire I was just in

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spire*

proven delta
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method collosus build the one to go with for m+?

stable mountain
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im blasting with slayer but i dont really do past 13s atm

wary raft
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best weppy best off piece for tier and v good ring and good (but annoying as fuck) trinket

stable mountain
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yea got myth weap from pos

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op yep

latent moss
wary raft
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dk

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crit mast shoulder wp and ring form those 3 dngs

latent moss
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prolly just coin algethar angle right now no

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tier pieces

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ring

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i mean realistically as long as im getting something its good

wary raft
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ya aa owns if ur just chasing whatever outside of dragon games equip and back

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other two are more for chase pieces youll never take off

latent moss
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i kinda dont want puzzy b but also like

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mythic guidon isnt very close

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considering i have to pug it

wary raft
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I bonus rolled that put it in the cant trade window with my bddy and de'd it

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I hate that shit

latent moss
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xdd

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i mean as unholy its kinda w/e i feel like

wary raft
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it sims real well

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but I cba using that shit

latent moss
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y

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i just want guidon cause i can just macro it and never see it again

wary raft
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same reason

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I dont like that its a 2m on a 1.5m class and a channel

latent moss
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y

stable fiber
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holy priest kinda mad fun wtf

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i just have no mana

smoky garden
# stable mountain yea got myth weap from pos

I got it as well but it sims ~500 lower than the hunt embellish, do you have any idea is it worth crafting an embellish for back slot and play with it?
I see almost all top warriors on murlokio plays with hunt weapon

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So I was wondering what was better, do I sacrifice 90 myth crest for potential not dmg inc

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Is it possible to create and sim embellish item on raidbots?

minor gust
#

@magic canopy Holy Madox in POE2

magic canopy
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hell yeah

stable mountain
lime ruin
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Do you guys cleave the two mobs in phase 3 on alleria or ST the boss

steep walrus
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Do people who Play arms and fury have multiple sets of crafted gear or do they recraft?

edgy canyon
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Neither you just play the other spec with slightly suboptimal stats

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Change your jewelry and game

blazing holly
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are we cooked

hybrid needle
blazing holly
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my guild wants to bench me for alleria

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and eventually lura

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what was the point of all of this

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can I even get CE if I reroll

hybrid needle
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"We care about the player not the class"

blazing holly
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or am I permanently excluded from that

hybrid needle
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๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ

pale agate
#

guys, for ST arms slayer, what is the prio ? i feel like there is diff info

wowhead has MS above HS but isnt MS very weak in arms slayer ?

slow saddle
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Crit on lura

still fox
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can we already craft 298 or next week?

obtuse star
#

So with single target, what is priority after big CDs are down and how should i be doing my rotation after CDs?

pale agate
pale agate
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we need answers ragey

burnt gale
#

Icyveins goes more in depth for rotation help than wowhead

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You will notice is you go Colossus, MS and HS switch places in priority. Which is kind of odd to me. I would think in Colo you want to MS more, even if just slightly, to bring demolish back off cd.

pale agate
#

we are wondering for SLAYER

stable fiber
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that is slayer

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i think sudden death > ms tho

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in m+ talents

pale agate
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yeah thats what i mean

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ok

stable fiber
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its just SD > MS in m+ talents

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otherwise thats fine

calm oriole
#

its worth swapping to massacre for slayer Arms on skyreach?

onyx rapids
#

Quicl question guys!
when playing slayer execute build for M+, should execute be damage profile No.1 ? for me its usually cleave or some other aoe skill

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maybe im doing something wrong

pulsar frost
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trust wowhead, mr archi runs both but wowhead is the main site to go

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archi our lord and savior

pale agate
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lol true and okay, probably overthinking it

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its just annoying that MS is weak in slayer

pulsar frost
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idk what the convo is

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but i saw sites and cant disrespect the archi

hybrid needle
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Whatever it was, it got deleted. You Responded to an empty message

calm oriole
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other than that exe for 2 stacks then MS

burnt gale
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So in a scenario where CS and SS are on cd, and I'm fighting exactly 2 targets what's my priority? Rend obvi, but do I just go single target rotation? Or is Cleave better if it's up?

pulsar frost
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i decided to randomally do a bear key, they really turned this shit into a 3 button rotation taht just pumps

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๐Ÿ’€

slow saddle
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Its 1 a rage issue

pulsar frost
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MS is what RB is to fury but to arms

slow saddle
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2 op saving rage for exe

onyx rapids
pulsar frost
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but prob skill issue

onyx rapids
#

overall still should be Cleave or some other aoe right?

slow saddle
#

Nono

slow saddle
pulsar frost
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poor rng

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as usual with slayer and war

slow saddle
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Like ive fights where im slammin 3 times 1 ms still cd

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On op

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If u get a cd proc there life feels better

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Sd

pulsar frost
#

im still not used to exe

slow saddle
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Me when i slam i dont mind

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Mortal wounds

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Me when slam doesnt crit st 37% chance

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๐Ÿ’ฉ

pulsar frost
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me when nothing crits

slow saddle
#

Guess its time to whipe raid๐Ÿคฃ

hybrid needle
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I swear critrate is a lie

ripe pine
#

Is there anyone know how to play sound when slice and dice buff end?

smoky garden
#

In execute phase, when we had CS debuff up, doest MS takes priority over SD procks?

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Or we use 1 SD if at 2 stacks, and sacrifice 1s of CS debuff extender?

slow saddle
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If 2 ep send ms imho

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Unless u got 2 x sd

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Then id sd //

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Its prob hs prio 1 for me 2 x sd ( should never happen) ms

weary star
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quick question. what is SS for arms?

wind hatch
slim vapor
ripe pine
#

thx a lot

slow saddle
#

for the love of god

#

make bloodsurge baseline

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remove talent

onyx rapids
#

um does anyone know the cloak stats when catalyzed?

wind hatch
stable fiber
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solid day of pushing

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i have gone up 350 io

thick kelp
stable fiber
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xdd

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12 -> 21

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we spent 30 mins learning the dungeon and then timed it with .2 seconds left

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ez

thick kelp
#

ez

slow saddle
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Slayer?

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Or collosus

stable fiber
#

slayer only rn

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i like doing boss damage

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because im ethical

#

that 21 skyreach would not have been timed if i didnt do like 90-100k dps on every boss

robust cypress
#

is it normal for mastery flask to sim the best?

stable fiber
#

massive ahh sim

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its not nortmal

#

but that gear is crazy

#

its haste/crit on every piece except helmet and chest

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even trinekts

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like 400 mastery is good for arms rn and its probably trying to get that amount because you dont have it from your gear otherwise

robust cypress
#

Yeah fair. Havent been lucky with gaze on chim yet

stable fiber
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gaze helps yeah

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if you get gaze itll prob be crit flask

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cause you get rid of the vorasius trinket most likely

robust cypress
#

Nah I think heart of wind loses

rare kite
#

even without gaze your sim has it within margin

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mast flask

stable fiber
#

myth heart isnt that much worse then myth vorasius trink

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so it most certainly wont lose to a hero track vorasius trink

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but sims can be weird

robust cypress
#

ye let me rerun

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Hmm

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Back to crit it goes lol

hasty pumice
tidal acorn
#

As colossus when prioing single target damage with funnel, where does cleave land in the priority?

unreal mountain
#

Anyone know whats the best m+ specc now and which Hero Talent

ashen night
#

btw how do i determine if someone is in the top 1% of m+ rating?

tidal acorn
# slow saddle Nr 1

nice - so even outside of ravager & above 35% it deals more dmg to the main target than moral strike?