arms

[latent moss]

)))))))

45k dmg

[olive nest]

Alright time to maybe hit emerald 2 in wild rift brb

[latent moss]

wild rift...

[olive nest]

Lmfao

Bro gotta get the gaming fix at work

Yk yk

Degen behavior

Wcyd

[latent moss]

🐐

behavior

[minor gust]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yeah-its-all-coming-together-kronk-the-emperors-new-groove-gif-15921603

[fresh spire]

i need to look more into opportunist usage again in ST

is it worth pressing shiny button again

[minor gust]

Might be with op buffs now

[fresh spire]

same shit

[slow saddle]

Ms 20% when

Buff

[minor gust]

Damn thought it would with no MP

[candid pecan]

wtf...

okay then

[thorn stream]

exe build so much fun

[tacit crystal]

wtf

at what point do we go fatal mark

[fresh spire]

tbh i did some testing for non EP

but ST ep is worth alot

[tacit crystal]

how much of a loss is ava and ep for 2 bb

surely its just worse

[misty wind]

new arms player. do i press cleave in 2 targets as slayer?

[tacit crystal]

only over slam i think

[proper iron]

is slayer our m plus choice now?

[nova marsh]

Only with 3 stacks of Collortal (or when it clows)

[strange comet]

Col still pumps if you're pulling decent

[deft bluff]

i died a few times, but

[nova marsh]

Colo probally still better for overalls, expect for in some dungeons like AA or skyreach

[deft bluff]

on a 14

not awful

[nova marsh]

what the mage doin

[deft bluff]

the amge be 261

[nova marsh]

oh lmao

So just their best

[deft bluff]

id be higher up if he did real dmg too but

i think id have been at 170

im really liking the slayer

[nova marsh]

Pit?

[deft osprey]

??

[deft bluff]

yeah it was pit

so i think i can pull bigger with colo

[red parrot]

do you hold bladestorm for CS or just send whenever it comes up

[fresh spire]

[icy mulch]

Wow, is that ST? Or to be more specific, what fight is that?

[nova marsh]

Barbaric is probably more dps

But if you need nore survability during prog stance mast might be more valuable

[fresh spire]

nexus 13

[slow saddle]

Actually its not rly

When u get enuf exexuties

[icy mulch]

Hmm, that execute buff really pumps now. Very nice.

[slow saddle]

Yup

[pulsar frost]

Slayer should be exe

[slow saddle]

Now rebuff dw 33%

Ms 20%

Keep in mind they nerf dw 33% but now fixxes the 2 x proc🤣🤣

[grim hull]

@smoky kayak nice log on Dragons man

[slow saddle]

Slayer dragon?

[grim hull]

he was Colo

[tough pond]

Dragon slayer?

[grim hull]

US/EU

[slow saddle]

No fam imma slayer 200%

[nova marsh]

Hmmm...sim angle?

[slow saddle]

We got 2 many ddhs

[slow saddle]

Pls do

Im not on pc

But seeing we dont ms unless 2 x ep and cs

I mean

[icy mulch]

I wonder if they will actually buff it now. Would make sense. Though Blizzard is not known for their logic.

[nova marsh]

Yes but have you considered stance mast dps wise is kinda bad

[pulsar frost]

thats so weird that i gotta get use to man

2x ep i get but has to be with CS is wack

[maiden apex]

Did any st or cleave slayer spec fir raid change or only m+ spec?

[nova marsh]

Sure lemme grab my character rw

[pulsar frost]

its the same for both

[olive nest]

With the new build not even this is true anymore lmao

Literally ms filler lmao

[pulsar frost]

i mean the slayer savior enjoyer dude doesnt MS till 2x ep and cs still

with his new build

[olive nest]

#arms message

[surreal spade]

for sim collossus, is that right?

[maiden apex]

Ty

[olive nest]

Sure that works

[latent moss]

dont use nightly

use latest

for simc version

[olive nest]

Oh word didn’t look at version xdd nice catch

[candid pecan]

NO way... bonus rolled 7 times in PIT....no weapon

atleast next one is 100% guaranteed

[surreal spade]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6EcjMD4aU6rkUWSdb4ZfYr Plume hc simming better than gaze myth '-'

[heavy dune]

That’s rough

[surreal spade]

can i trust this?

[thick kelp]

i mean

ofc

crit stick sims higher

in Cd window burst

[nova marsh]

ur simming AoE

[thick kelp]

over mainstat stick

[stone marsh]

Any good slayer build for M+?

[nova marsh]

Sim patchwreck 1 target for 5 minutes

[foggy citrus]

do we have access to the nillhammer yet?

[surreal spade]

theres a way to sims like a overral dps ?

[thick kelp]

nxt week

[nova marsh]

No don't sim for keys

Just sim ST for gearing descions

[surreal spade]

ty for advice

[nova marsh]

Also the duration is a problem cuz you're not letting procs get even with eachotehr too

[foggy citrus]

okay thanks

[surreal spade]

im feeling so inconstant

[frosty basin]

whats the rotation in that build anyway?

[stone marsh]

Does it do okay in keys? I guess not as good overall as Colossus in AoE but still viable I hoe

[surreal spade]

like, some keys i do 175-180 overall

[nova marsh]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2GKjxrWwS1kraZrVAEaUrf hmmm

[stone marsh]

That''s pretty good

[nova marsh]

Those are....interesting results

[bronze mountain]

for the Arms Slayer build that doesn't run battlelord, basically use only MS with 2 stacks of EP in execute ST and only MS with 2 stacks of EP and CS in AOE?

[nova marsh]

OH

One sec I think I scuffed it

[pulsar frost]

Jokes on you I always sim for keys

[nova marsh]

Have fun with sim weirdness?

[pulsar frost]

I do

My gearing has been fine with simming for keys

[dreamy sandal]

Guys, is there any way to track the battlelord buff?

[nova marsh]

I mean I'm just saying

[thick kelp]

in st you spend 2ep ms in CS and on aoe its a filler after cleaves, SD's and OP's

[nova marsh]

I don't think 8 targ 1 minute is a good way to determine if gear is good or not

[pulsar frost]

Oh I dont do that

I do 5t 5 mins

[thick kelp]

even worse

[smoky kayak]

Thanks, it's about time I had a good one! I swear every week something downright comical would happen to brick my parse

[nova marsh]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/69NZZ4G5jFPHbvaXAEnZkM Okay so...what the fuck is going on here

Even with latest there is no way stance mast is a 20% gain.

[smoky kayak]

managed to hang onto my Rank 1 Beloren too

[nova marsh]

I heard! grats man

Oh

Oh

I see

[smoky kayak]

you're only running two sets of talents - comparing AoE to ST

just scroll down to the list of results and you'll see there's only two entries

[nova marsh]

Yeah I'm trying to compare barbic to stance mast

[smoky kayak]

well that's not what you did lol

[nova marsh]

And I realized I'm a dumbass simming the colo build lol

How I did this I have zero clue

I literally was in raid build

[smoky kayak]

press the button at the top that says "run sim again" and scroll down to talent builds

no, you started off in a cleave build

and the only one you have selected (at the bottom) is your ST stance mastery one

[nova marsh]

Okay this is just weird

I copied it in the raid build...

Okie thanks this makes a lot more sense

[smoky kayak]

I'm guessing you either didn't copy/paste something, or mean to select another one of those talent sets in the UI, like the one called Raid maybe?

it happens a lot

[nova marsh]

Or I was using the last Simc input

Actually probally

[nova marsh]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/gXZdncSA7Qv1BMwCP1riPL Okay for real now

Interestingly enough...they're about equal

[smoky kayak]

yeah, has been for some time

[nova marsh]

Neat

Now I don't feel bad for dropping anything for stance

[smoky kayak]

in fact, you can even drop Crushing and keep Barbaric for the same results

[nova marsh]

hmmm

very nice we get options

[smoky kayak]

I would normally keep Crushing, but if you really want Javalineer for some reason, it's an option

[minor gust]

[smoky kayak]

but yeah, my recommended ST builds always take Stance Mastery when able
multitarget builds are a lil more contentious, because I find that most players don't use DStance that regularly, and Javalineer has good use, especially within the lower-mid range of keys

[nova marsh]

Pretty fair

I never managed to feel like i get good use out of jav

[cerulean yarrow]

guys, sorry for this question, it must have been asked quite a few times before:
285 + embellishment or 289 2h

arms

[smoky kayak]

kinda comes down to preference and circumstance, some players are just better about looking for interrupts, others are better about stance dancing, etc

[smoky kayak]

https://giphy.com/gifs/hM9zK1qvsrwek

[cerulean yarrow]

both? so the garfrost haste/crit myth weapon in my vault is a pass if i have 285 crafted weapon?

[olive nest]

No way

Take that weapon

And then plan to craft 2x Arcano

[nova marsh]

Id take weap

[smoky kayak]

the real answer is it depends on what you're doing and what you have access to

[nova marsh]

And then keep embellishment for fury

[cerulean yarrow]

i was thinking exactly that but sim kinda says it doesnt care

[smoky kayak]

are you coining pit and do you need most items from there? taking hammer from vault may be a waste if you coin it anyway

[olive nest]

^

[smoky kayak]

do you have crests available to actually craft something, or are they all going into upgrading existing items?

[granite swift]

hmmm just did a slayer AA and for the first time was frowning at infrequent reap procs

with sham

could be in my head

[smoky kayak]

na it's pretty inconsistent

basically 1/5 cleaves

[granite swift]

yeah was blasting the run before felt like

[smoky kayak]

it's not a change or anything, that's just how it works

[cerulean yarrow]

that is a good point, i will need all crests for upgrades

ty fam

[smoky kayak]

you can also craft a heroic piece if you need an embel but want to save myth crests

[cerulean yarrow]

smart, so many options, how shall my SMOrc warrior brain comprehend all this

[warm plover]

so we always sim st for gear pieces? I never raid so i guess for m+ also st?

[granite swift]

the heck, idk why i didnt think of this, my crafted wep kept simming over my two ton hammer

[smoky kayak]

just gotta look at all the angles!

[granite swift]

tyyyyy

[warm plover]

Just came from work, are r1 armsies going slayer yet? or colossus still better on m+

[spring folio]

I was baited into recrafting to fury, I can’t wait to get off work and swap back to arms

[granite swift]

checks currency tab and remembers he sent all hero crests to myth last night 🥲

[spring folio]

Timed my first 19 as a fury warrior tho

[smoky kayak]

I mean it's what I did - when you think about it, you're taking -4 ilvls for a heroic cloak so that you can gain 4 ilvls on weapon, and we all know that weapon is way better than cloak

and then by crafting it heroic, you save your myth crests to put into stronger pieces

[cerulean yarrow]

i had a slayer armsie hard-fisting ST while still being crazy strong in AOE in MT18 earlier, it's annecdotal but seems to be super strong

[olive nest]

I did exactly this still rocking hero wrists, myth crests best spent elsewhere

[thin garden]

Fury sims higher than arms in st and aoe, is arms still the preferred m+ spec?

[viral fiber]

no one giving clear answer on that

always say both viable

[hushed patrol]

just check bis list

[smoky kayak]

sim performance does not necessarily equate to practical performance, there are a lot of variables that get in the way

[strange comet]

Everything is pretty close. I've heard fury best for prog as it's a bit more forgiving/tanky but idk I just repeat shit smarter people say. Edit you said m+, pls ignore me

[smoky kayak]

Fury was already doing well in M+ if your name is Noxiv, but I suspect Arms is going to continue to dominant the majority of high end rankings

if only because more players are more used to playing it at this point

[weary star]

do we need to apply rend manually?

[clever stream]

Why baited?

[delicate narwhal]

and as i understand every one still playin Colosus - not slayer? or

[smoky kayak]

yes, Arms always uses rend manually

[viral fiber]

they should add rend to cleave

[thin garden]

What bosses would you recommend arms on for mythic prog? I’ve been thane fury up until paladins, progging paladins as col arms

[viral fiber]

like fury and prot

[clever stream]

I love playing both it's just hard to maintain the crit haste and haste mastery sets together

[ashen night]

biz was saying he recommends slayer for pugging and col if u get funnnel on bosses

[weary star]

can someone share a screenshot with our damage breakdown on how it should look?

AOE and ST if possible

[rugged cobalt]

Are the guides on wowhead updated to new rotations and stuff, thinking especially about slayer

[weary star]

is this slayer or colossus?

[spice field]

you were savior of slayer what happened 😄

[thick kelp]

idk

[stone marsh]

Colossus obviously

[reef prairie]

Im gonna guess that one is slayer

[rugged cobalt]

You can see Slayer strike and reap the storm.. 😄

[stone marsh]

With slayer's strike

[latent moss]

why exe so low

[tawdry sphinx]

Zug zug

[weary star]

does heroic strike have different effects when you press it?

[spice field]

yes

but it's not new, it was like that from the beginning

[stone marsh]

When you press it, it launches the attack, when you don't press it it does nothing

[minor gust]

From my experience it varys on the dungeons. AA 18 my exe was 4th

[weary star]

well I am new to arms, so...yea.teahc me snepai

[rugged cobalt]

How do you play it? If I do
Cleave > OP > SD proc > MS > executein AoE I find myself with 2x SD procs and OP rdy and I'm afraid that I'm munching procs of SD.. Am I missing something or is that correct to keep pressing cleave and OP if they're available?

[olive nest]

cleave>execute(sd / >2xep)>op>ms>slam

[reef prairie]

Read your tooltips my friend

[smoky kayak]

there are plenty of guides in #dps-faq

[spice field]

WTF

xDD

[minor gust]

Npx best dungeon for execute. Big execute spam on 2nd boss

[latent moss]

this was mt

[reef prairie]

Crawth feels great too

[minor gust]

Holy MT

[tacit crystal]

@reef prairie how many stacks of alnseer did you get during crawth

[reef prairie]

Bro idk

[tacit crystal]

bc you had to haev gotten super lucky

[minor gust]

Other dps kill small shitters? Reap and BS cleave owned for me when I did MT

[tacit crystal]

maybe op crits as well

[reef prairie]

Maybe I'm just the goat. Have you considered this

[tacit crystal]

@reef glade

[reef glade]

old statement

[tacit crystal]

we bricked the key if you couldnt tell

[reef glade]

also not my name or pfp so fake image

[tacit crystal]

by the fact that im typign

[calm hollow]

love the top logs

[tacit crystal]

all colo too

[calm hollow]

yep

[minor gust]

CN logs = ignore

[fresh spire]

[reef prairie]

They're simply too good

[thick kelp]

@latent moss ASCENSION

[tacit crystal]

die

[steep walrus]

I dont understand why light company guidon is simming higher than gaze no matter what I do

[steep walrus]

gratz

[calm hollow]

meanwhile the boss dam

[tacit crystal]

at least theyd ditn lose to the bear

[reef prairie]

30k is awesome

[abstract sphinx]

Myth?

[tacit crystal]

bro even i did more than 30k

[minor gust]

Bro I trolled myself this week i forgot to swap to prot and got other trinket from bonus roll

[steep walrus]

both hero

[tacit crystal]

L

[thick kelp]

I had the other trinket in my vault LOL reminded me to go prot

[surreal spade]

in NPX are u running slayer or col?

[abstract sphinx]

Huhhhh… u kinda tellin me not to bonus roll myth gaza cause i have myth guidon too

[latent moss]

w

[steep walrus]

i'd test it on your own. its weird. all last week it was saying guidon, then yesterday it said gaze, now its saying guidon again

[abstract sphinx]

Prob your haste

[dim basalt]

Guidon is okayish for Slayer and pretty good for col

Lots of trinkets are really close so it mostly depends on your stats

[minor gust]

Lmao

[steep walrus]

which is interesting im

[thick kelp]

which is intresting im

[abstract sphinx]

Crit or haste flask?

[thick kelp]

no flask

[abstract sphinx]

Which one u use

[tacit crystal]

spoonfed

[flat willow]

juiced out of his mind

[thick kelp]

Crit

[dim basalt]

need moar crit

[tacit crystal]

all spoonfed

[dim basalt]

I barely got any raid loot wdym

[flat willow]

why are there so many void elves in this discord

[steep walrus]

maybe cuz of neck?

[abstract sphinx]

I think st would favour haste with your %s

[thick kelp]

nope

[steep walrus]

its crit haste but idk

[thick kelp]

simmed it alr

[abstract sphinx]

Huhh

I need to resim my shit then

[thick kelp]

let me show you the secret sauce

[tacit crystal]

oh nah

[dim basalt]

how much do you sim st Walhe

[tacit crystal]

that and guidon is banned

[thick kelp]

Like a 100

[dim basalt]

Same as me then

[thick kelp]

my vorasius ring is

holding my DPS back

[abstract sphinx]

What method of simming

[old ermine]

how did u do to make to hold 2 2hand weapons ?

[minor gust]

Surprised your slayer doesn't want more mastery mine did. Unless that's your Colo setup

[thick kelp]

slarms ST setup

im running haste mastery gems

[clever crag]

got gaze finally

but fury now simming 104.5k and arms 99.8k

[abstract sphinx]

Gz

[clever crag]

its over

[old ermine]

today i got weapon neck and head from pit with 3 bonus rolls

[olive nest]

Big!

Gz

[minor gust]

Same. It still wants more mastery think I'm at 20% rn

[old ermine]

still dont have gaze

[clever crag]

idk if bonus roll heart now or spam pit kek

[olive nest]

That’s interesting maybe I should check mastery gems or something

[clever crag]

only last 2 hero pices

[olive nest]

Mines like 15% mastery

[old ermine]

pit

[tacit crystal]

guidon has to be banned as slayer no?

[olive nest]

Yes I would not use guidon on slayer

Only Colo

[clever crag]

what

why ?

[minor gust]

Prob not the best for slayer

[thick kelp]

Mine is still yearning crit haste

[minor gust]

Nothing to align with for slayer

[thick kelp]

from nxp it wants the crit haste ring

[olive nest]

Guidon on Colo sims good
Guidon on slayer sims bad

[thick kelp]

the mastery one is midish

[clever crag]

I have this shitty guidon

[minor gust]

Haven't simmed in a bit maybe I try again with these buffs

[clever crag]

dont tell me its bad lol

[olive nest]

Guidon fucks just not as slayer

[minor gust]

Yeah I got Crit haste on like everything then I got the ring set it refuses to give up the haste mastery ring in st and aoe for slayer

[olive nest]

Same boat here

My sims like the ring combo

But I have no mastery except tier items, the light ring, and gaze

[clever crag]

well guidon still sims better than Kroluks warbanner for me

both mythic

[reef prairie]

Yea idk if i was doing something wrong but I couldn't get anything to sim higher than my ring 2set

[steep walrus]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5PsUPTmfHmhzfcxpRqxDYB

[reef prairie]

Even as colossus

[steep walrus]

mine is simming good for slayer

[olive nest]

No you’re not doing anything wrong you just have good stat spread

At about 1k haste sim wants all the crit it can get its hands on

I can’t speak for mastery I think you just get what you get tbh

[steep walrus]

what are the best raidbots settings to sim slayer vs colossus

[bronze mountain]

is the build the same for colossus?

[steep walrus]

i think so

slayer changed

[candid pecan]

we stil lcant track Heroic might...

[nova marsh]

Use ur bars

OH might

Its not that important

[dense jungle]

soooooooooo wgat about slayer is it better than colo rn ?

[latent moss]

st

[dense jungle]

and m+ still going to be colo ?

[latent moss]

if ur group pulls around u

ye

if they dont then its slayer

[dense jungle]

damn wat

[jaunty drift]

Big pulls - colo wins

[rigid ravine]

I mean you can probably do either or n be fine

[latent moss]

u need funnel on bosses

[dense jungle]

haaaaaa

ok

[jaunty drift]

Small steady pulls - slayer

[dense jungle]

i see

[latent moss]

ye i mean u dont HAVE to

both will do fine

in basically all keys except 21s 22s

[dense jungle]

ye ofc

[latent moss]

then you should optimize routes etc

[jaunty drift]

I got up to 19s as slayer, swapped to Colo depending on group comps and tank route

[latent moss]

but colo st feels so shit to play

[jaunty drift]

It does

Agreed

[latent moss]

like its genuinely bad enough for me to not want to play it

[dense jungle]

and btw

is fury better than arm now with buffs ?

[latent moss]

no?

not sure tho

noxiv was pumping

[jaunty drift]

Yeah, I feel the same tbh. But I dabble with Colo depending on comps

Was running feral aug arms, that was a good comp for Colo the way the tank pulled

[rigid ravine]

He's like an exception to the rule but both specs are fine even in the highest keys

[latent moss]

i dont have shaman so im prolly

gonna stick to fury

[rigid ravine]

More solid data will come up over the week

[jaunty drift]

Colo still feels like poop without skyfury absolutely

Slayer is at least playable

😂

[rigid ravine]

But we're in play whatever territory till you're pushing up up

[jaunty drift]

Arms4lyfe

None of that fury nonsense

[nova marsh]

No skyfury=play fury

[proper iron]

anyone with m plus slayer spec pls.

[tacit crystal]

CcEAjLzRlq54bI5v+r8Sr9Xw4jZmZmFzYmZGAAAghphxwMbLzMzMDzYmBAAAAwYZmBEGLbDsAGwMMhMD2AzMWGLDmtZ2GgZGAYGGA

[proper iron]

thanks

[fiery monolith]

Is that the preferred slayer m+ build over the one with bloodborne and battlelord

[olive whale]

b

[minor gust]

Still testing but the execute one is a lot of fun. Lil more ST and a lot of execute spam. Execute top dmg is funny to dee

[latent moss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898720803586048/1501641987693084732/image.png?ex=69fcd095&is=69fb7f15&hm=0bbdc3c9cd370cfb96105e840e89667ed1d92c8240693ef78490f9c5c456b9d7&

magisters xdd

[woeful fossil]

So is the play to just send execute anytime its available?

[latent moss]

cleave>sd or exe if high rage>op>ms

[woeful fossil]

ms fill?? lol

[latent moss]

yeah

[woeful fossil]

what a world.

[upper sparrow]

[nova marsh]

Ms as a filler feels illegal

[mild sierra]

We are so fucking back (Salhadaar)

[minor gust]

Yeah been doing this. Just gonna keep doing this till the Fish finishes cooking

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-fried-rice-shrimp-chef-chef-shrimp-shrimp-cooking-gif-2080655355267938534

[latent moss]

hoooly

[mild sierra]

No externals, just natty arms

[latent moss]

W cook

[minor gust]

🐐 🦐

[manic topaz]

do you guys know the prio in execute single target?

[minor gust]

With what build and in what content be specific

[manic topaz]

slayer raid

[mortal niche]

is colo ever getting st help

[calm hollow]

@olive nest 1st roll in Pit

[minor gust]

Wowhead prio is set up for that but it's MS at x2 EP > OP > exe

[olive nest]

Let’s goo big!

And leech!

[dark ledge]

Do you guys think its worth getting a socket for my fully upgraded head instead of a extra bonus roll?

[sacred zodiac]

no socket vendor unfortunately

[calm hollow]

[minor gust]

Depends if you have enough crests to upgrade the gear. If not take the socket

[steep walrus]

slayer st for this?

I tried running slayer in nexus point and felt like my dmg was crap

[calm hollow]

now only need a myth chest, and done

[steep walrus]

wished I was colossus the whole time

[dark ledge]

Yeah going for socket I think, bonus roll can be a useless item aswell. Atleast the socket is a guaranteed upgrade

[mild sierra]

YE

but this is raid

[minor gust]

Yee that's what I did this week took socket

[mild sierra]

not m+

[minor gust]

Prio sockets then extra bonus rolls

[weak wave]

Can we see in logs if anyone in a key used his taunt?

Got a monk healer who got meleed by Gemellus

[stable fiber]

Yes

[vast tinsel]

check his casts

[stable fiber]

Check the monks casts

[vast tinsel]

for provoke

[stable fiber]

I think the monks taunt is called provoke

[halcyon valve]

good job blizzard

[stable fiber]

Fillmore beat me to it

[halcyon valve]

i used my bonus roll for mythic salhadaar to get the necklace

instead, i got the helmet... FOR THE SECOND TIME

[worldly apex]

hey guys, if i got the mythic saron neck from the vault, can it drop from bonus roll after?

[vast tinsel]

yes

[stable fiber]

Yes

[worldly apex]

sad, thx

[weak wave]

Can i see that in the dps meter too?

[stable fiber]

No

Provoke doesn't do damage so it shouldn't show up

But blizzards meter is weird

[vast tinsel]

which dungeons do we still play colo in squad

[minor gust]

Whenever you wanna play colo

[stable fiber]

I think you can do it in everything but skyreach and Aa

They both are so similar

[vast tinsel]

rgr

[stable fiber]

Depends on group Comp I suppose

[minor gust]

Colo in SR is fine if you got a grp that's gonna skip and pull funnel for first and last boss

But only something a 5 stack grp would do really

[rugged cobalt]

Just did the execute slayer build in AA14, this is my breakdown

I feel like I suck

we're all 280 ilvl

[minor gust]

That's a lot of OP dmg

But like overalls don't tell us anything really on how you did

Besides really obvious prio mistakes

[rugged cobalt]

Yeah.. so in AoE I'm just keeping rend, then pressing Cleave > SD > OP > MS > Slam in order, I keep bladestorm for colo smash

In ST I'm keeping rend, pressing Exe > Heroic STrike > OP > MS > Slam.

[minor gust]

Ah there's were all that extra op dmg came in

[rugged cobalt]

and execute I just press execute until 2x EP, MS and fill with OP basicall

[minor gust]

MS > OP in st

[rugged cobalt]

But all the "we don't press MS unless 2x EP + Colo"?

Am I just misunderstanding that

[tacit crystal]

thats only in execute

[minor gust]

Yeah that's for execute phase

[rugged cobalt]

ah, my braincell didn't catch that

[minor gust]

When your not in execute it's still the normal MS OP Slam

[tacit crystal]

is op at 2 stacks lower than ms

surely it is if you have opportunist

[minor gust]

Op still lower is what I'm doing

Fishy is still cooking on the details with that build

So subject to change

[tranquil moth]

some results from voidspire nm with a good fury in raid. (he won me on the other bosses. but this is not a good refernce since im not a pro )

[steep walrus]

skyreach is the execute build right?

[steep walrus]

what was ur build here?

[proven veldt]

does this rule apply to raid builds, or just a new AOE build?

[lament tapir]

yo frozen does this look ok dmg breakdown wise or am i doing smt wrong

[minor gust]

You are new or returning warrior right? Just stick with one build till you get the spec down. Don't need to be swapping around on a per dungeon basis

[tranquil moth]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Dx6dJRWvKYk3N1CG?fight=12&type=damage-done&source=8

[minor gust]

Only if you do not have MP talented. So this is only really for M+ builds

[proven veldt]

got it

[minor gust]

Raid is exe prio as normal

[slate gorge]

Heyo all, I'm testing Arms as a Fury main right now, and just wondering if the sims are wonky with either class, and/or does Arms HEAVILY value crit over mastery? Obviously, without farming gear, my crit falls low and mastery is high for an ideal Arms build, but I'm dealing almost 60-80k dps more in 5-target aoe as Thane Fury vs Colo or Slayer Arms.

And my sims aren't far off from those numbers, either.

[stable fiber]

Arms loves crit

And also fury oversims a bit

[slate gorge]

Oversims? It's undersimming for me

I get about 248k sim at 275 ilvl and doing 260k in practice on target dummies

Though, that's probably due to Executes on the dummies, now that I think about it

[minor gust]

You are gonna do more on dummies because they are easily in execute range

[slate gorge]

yee, my bad on that

[minor gust]

You good

[steep walrus]

yeah pretty much. but i've mostly been playing colossus

dont want to use it if its super bad compared somewhere

and i run slayer for raid

is skyreach okay on slayer?

and is it the execute build just so i know

[minor gust]

Slayer is more than ok in every dung. Should have no issues. Can use the BLord build or execute. If you don't have a shammy and hate rage starve moments rock out with BLord build. And execute build if you got a shammy or ok with the occasional rage starve

[clever stream]

Was he playing thane other bosses

[steep walrus]

can you please give me code s

so I know i have it right

[minor gust]

Not at home right now or I would. Blord build is the m+ one on wowhead. And if you want execute one just take the BLord build and drop BLord + x2 blood Bourne for massacre and x2 critical thinking.

[steep walrus]

also what about colossus in every key? I like it and seem to do much better with it

okay I have one from bizentein I think its right

[minor gust]

Colo good in every key too. You can rock Bizs more ST focused Colo build for SR and AA

[dim basalt]

^

[minor gust]

I think it's just the Colo build dropping mass execution and powerful momentum for martial prowess

[dim basalt]

correct

[minor gust]

You aren't gonna get a definitive what's straight up best in each dungeon right now

Just not gonna happen this quickly

[dim basalt]

Man I wish Efficiency, Brute Force and Master Tactician werent so dead

[minor gust]

Anyone who says what's better is working with old info or talking out their ass

[elder path]

the best build is the one you like playing

https://klipy.com/gifs/truth-nuke-true-3--k01KQZC3R26PEB23VSFBH41ZHDE

[dim basalt]

Unironically yes

[steep walrus]

this is the biz build i run

[radiant dawn]

look at grandpa with his high visibility cursor

[dim basalt]

Keep in mind that even Biz is just trying out stuff and he said himself that colo will still be the play in a premade group

[upper sparrow]

[dim basalt]

Though there hardly is any reason to play col in AA, will see

SR might still be col in good groups

[nova marsh]

If you got people to get mobs in second boss (and I think first)

I think colo is great there

[rugged cobalt]

This looking abit better then? That's PoS15

[minor gust]

Real and true

[wary spindle]

considering there's ppl topping the charts with every build as warrior that is true

[old ermine]

academy 16 big ppull all around first boss what im i doing wrong

[dim basalt]

Blizzard pls give Slayer M+ and Col Raid season

[thick kelp]

everything by the looks of it

[languid torrent]

Its so weird coming to arms from a couple other specs because everyone here seems to be play slayer OR colossus. I love that I can swap either for any dungeon based on comp

[old ermine]

using new build from biz

[random trout]

Have to be hyper aggressive that academy big pull man, I know green pools is distracting and u run out and lose a lot of upon on dps but it matters.

I have the same issues, got to stick on that tanks ass right in front and go ham

[dim basalt]

For very high end it will still be col but Slayer is doing great again for anything else

[old ermine]

yea i get scared around those

[dim basalt]

Though Biz has been pulling pretty good numbers in 20s

[languid torrent]

There are probably 20 people in this discord that it truly matters. And I feel like im over exaggerating that number

[dim basalt]

On this discord prob only 4 or 5

[languid torrent]

In your weekly and even like 17s you can easily swap around

[dim basalt]

Which is still pretty high Id say

[old ermine]

does it matter if u Smash before avatar or u should avatar then smash

[languid torrent]

Its just a weird mindset ive seen players have where they dont wanna play both

[minor gust]

I will his boss when I'm home but I'm thinking slayer will def be fine and viable in 20s

[nova marsh]

Because evreyone is a one trick for builds

[minor gust]

Slayer funnel still good

[dim basalt]

yee

[languid torrent]

Big if true

[dim basalt]

Hes on par with demo and outlaw in pit 19 rn

[nova marsh]

Actually

[dim basalt]

It feels a bit unreal that Slayer can compete well in aoe and completely crank in ST

Like 95k+ is stupid

[nova marsh]

Id love to see genuine statics on how much of wows population is one tricks

[old ermine]

is everyone using same slayer build

[indigo quail]

Except me

Im using smooth brain colossus

[dim basalt]

Nah everyone trying different stuff

[indigo quail]

For EVERyTHING

[nova marsh]

Colo in raid is crazyyy

[indigo quail]

I know

Its terrible

[nova marsh]

Wait what

Oh no

Oh god

[indigo quail]

YES

https://tenor.com/view/yes-monkey-gif-17161736773310556283

Just bringing those dps charts down so we keep getting buffs

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-use-your-brain-use-the-brain-think-brain-gif-7914082

[nova marsh]

Please dont grief ur raid for us

[stable fiber]

Grief ur raid for us

[tranquil moth]

yes

[stable fiber]

😈

[nova marsh]

Yall are wild

Good thing theres no pure st fights

[minor gust]

He try the execute build yet? Or still playing blord?

[lyric pier]

what the best build for slayer now ?

[dim basalt]

Didn't pay attention and Im not watching anymore

[lyric pier]

on m+

[nova marsh]

Its between execute and b lord

Id just use the wowhead blord if no sham

[reef prairie]

No sham? Bro log out

[nova marsh]

Eh

Blord slayer is pretty okay without shanan

Until exe then yeah

[surreal spade]

anyone here uses naowh UI ?

[carmine flower]

are we back to slayer in keys or

colo forever

[pulsar frost]

either is fine

play what you like

[rugged cobalt]

There was a lot of talk earlier today about thane fury slapping like crazy in m+

What's the latest on that? Worth trying?

[short crescent]

probably ask in the fury channel

[hybrid needle]

If you want to play thane, play thane. The damage is great. You will lose the strong point of being a great funnel/prio target class tho

[short crescent]

but i think it is good

[rugged cobalt]

What if my group are all shitters who don't pull stuff for me to funnel on?

[willow lance]

Are any of them shaman

[hybrid needle]

Its not about overall damage.
You NEED prio target damage in your group. Arms is great for prio targets. Thane is pure padding.
Without funnel your ST is very bad yes, but overall it shouldnt look worse than thane

[vast hinge]

DK is still the best spec in the game , though it looks like the nerfs hit Aug and dh abit

Last week for comparison (pre warrior buffs)

[rare kite]

did not hit aug hard enough. tho i don't think that's possible tbf

[vast hinge]

Aug got hit cus all its best teammates got nerfed lol

On top of the nerf they got themselves

[rare kite]

yea but they could always get nerfed more. even if aug is the worst spec in the game i hope for nerfs

[short crescent]

Aug is cool because every time I forget I have one and think damn I'm pumping

[rare kite]

yea and then you feel bamboozled coz it's all fake

[short crescent]

Yeah

its "our" damage

[vast hinge]

Just turn off the in game dps meters

It’s all fake anyway

Only logs are accurate

In game dps meters made it look like DK did lower damage when in actual fact they were giga gapping everyone lol

Cus it misses some pet damage or some shit

[short crescent]

Oh, so I'm probably actually top dps every time then

got it

[steep tree]

i solo'd nulleus

[hybrid needle]

Good job lad

You started that a few days ago, right?
Hope you enjoyed it, its a fun one

[wraith lichen]

I think he's been my favorite nemesis alondside Kyveza

[pulsar frost]

kyv was great and my favorite out of the ones ive done

did it on my boomkin, idk what my guildies was complaining about

[wraith lichen]

I think I did Kyveza on fdk, which was fun

[pulsar frost]

did that shit on a boomkin xD

[limpid lotus]

The only MS during CS and 2x ep in execute is only for slayer right?

[fresh spire]

when no martial prowess in keys yeh

Bozo

[minor gust]

Hi

[fresh spire]

[minor gust]

Holy

[fresh spire]

hes so back (for a day)

[minor gust]

What boss

[fresh spire]

belo

[minor gust]

Giga

[fresh spire]

the boys are back in town

[minor gust]

We start belo prog this week

[fresh spire]

(didnt totally play brutal finish on accident)

arms fucks on the boss now

[olive nest]

Oh yeah we absolutely own that boss now

I’ve been having tons of fun

[minor gust]

That's huge yeah Archi said 2nd egg is in execute

[earnest imp]

looks like arms is bis on the Bird?

[olive nest]

Ye

Second egg starts at like 35% literally

It’s giga

I’m trying to get pi

[fresh spire]

some guys are getting it even lower its nuts

[olive nest]

But the guy won’t do it

[fresh spire]

we was getting around 35-40 on average one raid warmed up

[minor gust]

I played slayer on dragons this week. It has potential

[fresh spire]

Sari said his guild gets it to 19% 😄

[olive nest]

Sheesh

[fresh spire]

ngl this boss stinked before buffs, not it actually feels good

[stable fiber]

wonder what phsy comp looks like

with bear being op now

[pulsar frost]

bear op?

[stable fiber]

yeah

[pulsar frost]

i charge rend after 10 secs of gather

[stable fiber]

its unkillable rn

[pulsar frost]

i get meeled

[stable fiber]

have you played with once since the changes

[pulsar frost]

yes

2 recently

[stable fiber]

thrash does actual threat now

[pulsar frost]

charge rend

meeled

[stable fiber]

pretty sure its like

bear-mw-warrior-ench-(ret or rogue)

[olive nest]

Guardian/Rsham/WW/War/rogue probably

[steep walrus]

is the arms raid build on wow head correct?

[olive nest]

Or ret

[stable fiber]

i think enh shammy

is actually good now

[pulsar frost]

those dont like exist

im still fine with monk, rsham, war, prbobably a rogue if they eixts and whatever the last one

[olive nest]

Shaman is fine ye

[pulsar frost]

could probably aug now

since slayer arms has decent ST now

[stable fiber]

ehh

i think its just a ret

[pulsar frost]

doesnt ret also have bad ST

[stable fiber]

lol

[minor gust]

Played with one in a 18 AA he kept up pretty well.

[stable fiber]

no

[olive nest]

No way ret fucks st

[pulsar frost]

maybe all the ones ive seen are just bad

[olive nest]

Probably one of the highest

xdd

[pulsar frost]

hear theyre cracked with skyfury

[stable fiber]

ret doesnt need to have any niche shit to do good st

but if you do niche shit they still have some funnel

[pulsar frost]

hm, monk rsham, warrior, ret and rouge is probably solid

or dk instead of rogue

[stable fiber]

need motw somehow

and bear is just the best tank imo

better then bm monk

[pulsar frost]

swap rsham for resto druid and rogue with ele or ench shaman

[ebon jacinth]

Hello guys

[pulsar frost]

ive barely seen bears this season so

[ebon jacinth]

im kinda new to warrior, could someone point me in some direction as to what should i craft now ?

[tranquil swift]

is arms still more overral than fury in m+?

[pulsar frost]

if they exist then bear, rsham, ret, war, rogue

all i want is my skyfury idc rest

[ebon jacinth]

o interested in that too cuz if not im swapping back lmao, got 2nd weapon

[deft bluff]

man i just got benched

[olive nest]

Cosmos?

[pulsar frost]

beleive col is still higher overall

[deft bluff]

nah off the entire myth roster

[olive nest]

wtf!?

[frank wing]

It's still early but it feels like you definitely have a choice between colo arms and thane fury now, it's pretty close. Play whichever interests you more.

[ebon jacinth]

F u werent zug zugging enough

[waxen owl]

Is it normal that a gurdian druid combined with aug evoker just out damage my arms warrior with colossus build in the academy first pull or am i just shit as hell?

[deft bluff]

i was zugging our other zugger

but he comes attached with a mage and shammy that are both great

[pulsar frost]

maybe both?

[ebon jacinth]

true

[pulsar frost]

i mean bear has the advantage that the mobs move to him

[stable fiber]

arms isnt actually very good on the first pull of algethar

btw

[pulsar frost]

then you have to move to ids

[waxen owl]

so you mean it is normal and im a bad player?

[pulsar frost]

could be a mix of both

[stable fiber]

arms isnt good on that pull

[pulsar frost]

but kha is correct

shit is garbo

you have to position very well with the tank and mobs

[stable fiber]

arms is still infact soft target capped a bit

i actually think

slayer is better on that pull

[pulsar frost]

played academy first pull on boomkin and it was a night and day diff

[stable fiber]

dont let people know that though

[pulsar frost]

i just stand in back, dot everything then spam 2 buttons

[minor gust]

Arms was giga on first pull AA but that was this thunderous roar

That shit fucked that pull up

Now we are pretty soft capped

[pulsar frost]

if you cant stand near every mob , cleave spam and hit a fat demo its kinda dookie

[stable fiber]

i feel like slayer might shred that pull

with a couple reap procs

[pulsar frost]

did you find out where i can buy a cheap shaman for my skyfury buff :(

[minor gust]

It's alright did an 18 AA last night did like 450k with reap top damage

Buyashaman.com

[pulsar frost]

id like if reap was a bit higher then just 20% imo

think in aoe would feel solid if it was like 30-35% or something, or im just coping

[ebon jacinth]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/burning-legion/mirandå/

so technically i should craft either wrists or back

but i have Myth wrists wrong stats on em and a hero back

well then i just answered myself lol, crafting back

[gaunt owl]

for some clunky ass apl line to align the star you mean ? 😄

[olive nest]

Lmao

[stone marsh]

Make it an even 100%

[olive nest]

Nah I don’t want my aoe dictated entirely by rng proc

[rose matrix]

Did Dev really get nerfed this bad? This is Garfrost with basically no funnel outside of first 5ish seconds

The guy was 286 ilvl

[tranquil swift]

im so torn between arms and fury hahaha is arms fun to play?

[olive nest]

It’s really a mater of preference

[tranquil swift]

is arms rotation hard? i just want to crank in m+ thats all xD

[olive nest]

I, an arms enthusiast, will tell you arms is more fun

Arms is definitely harder yes

[wintry dome]

true, arms is tiny bit more fun than fury imo

[proven veldt]

is arms harder?

[olive nest]

Fury thane you press thunderclap on cd and do 90 percentile damage

[neon shale]

Both fun, I was big fury enjoyer. It I don’t feel like switching stats again therefore I will say arms

[proven veldt]

fury's APL is as long as I can remember with different conditional for different situations

[sudden owl]

harder is subjective, in the case of fury being the melee glue eater spec basically since it's legion rework tho, yes arms is harder to play than that but it's not rocket science or anything

[proven veldt]

but maybe the delta between hitting wrong buttons and right buttons is smaller

[olive nest]

Arms requires a solid understanding of how the abilities synergize

[proven veldt]

fury is also a good way to acquire carpal tunnel syndrome

[neon shale]

I’d say arms is def a tiny bit harder just tiny

[olive nest]

People that tell you you just hit the glowy button have no idea what they’re talking about

[neon shale]

Indeed , I hated lust as fury

[tranquil swift]

seems like most of the big dogs are running arms

[olive nest]

Ye arms owns right now

[tranquil swift]

are they still tanky ? or are they squishy compa[red to fury

[olive nest]

Nah plenty tanky

Specially with stance mastery

[tranquil swift]

you seem like you know your shit brewjj

[hoary helm]

btw is def slayer meta in m+?

[olive nest]

Above average maybe, smarter arms players in here than myself

Khazix, wahle, frozo, cone, krispi all very good resources and they chat here often

Ask away with any questions

[tranquil swift]

dms brew!

[wintry dome]

lmao

[vestal raptor]

HELLO TEAM, IS UMBRAL PLUME ACTUALLY GOOD or is it simbait, every warrior seems to be using gaze and ancient hunger

we're discussing loot right now so any help would be pog, kissy kissy

[daring vine]

Ancient hunger is easier to obtain that's probably why

[sudden owl]

ancient hunger, gaze and plume are the best 3 trinkets in that order but they are close enough that ilvl>

other people want plume tho I think only warriors want heart (and tanks but they aren't real)

maybe ret wants it too idk

[hybrid needle]

If you believe the rolls on vora everyone wants heart

[minor gust]

Plume gaze and heart are pretty equal

you see a lot more gaze than plume obviously because plume is much much harder to get on myth

than gaze and heart

[sudden owl]

It's also static you cannot really get lucky or unlucky with plume but you can with heart

[fathom trellis]

looks like ColArms is still the move over SlArms for 16+?

[minor gust]

both are good again

play what you prefer

[fathom trellis]

I assume if we want more ST for certain dungeons like SR or NPX, we just run Slayer

[minor gust]

or if you got a 5 man grp that consistently pulls funnel for you then colo. if you are a pug enjoyer play slayer

[minor gust]

yeah you can think of it like that too

[fathom trellis]

Skyfury have more 'impact' on either spec or just feels better?

[minor gust]

Skyfury especially with the new execute slayer build is a pretty massive impact. Tho if you dont like the potential rage starve Blord slayer will still do good

but the new execute build is a lot of fun

seeing execute top dmg in overall

[fathom trellis]

I'll check the pinned for the execute build, been looking to try it after seeing some of your detail pics lol

[gilded shuttle]

Hi, I have a question. What hero talent does Arms use now? 🙂

[fathom trellis]

#arms message

lolol

[gilded shuttle]

Oh, thanks, sorry, I just joined the Discord.

[dire hinge]

no worries!

[warm plover]

is this slayer?

[stable fiber]

i did 90k on my 277 ddh just now

think he just bad

[minor gust]

lots of fotm ddhs

[stable fiber]

think thats his main

that character killed mythic crown and beloren

[minor gust]

prob just a bad pull then

[stable fiber]

probably a cd thing then if i had to guess

id hope

you have to save cds as ddh sometimes

its weird

[warm plover]

so guys hows slayer comparing to colossus now in m+ anyone did the same run twice on diff specs?

[minor gust]

its back to how it was pre 12.05

both are good

Colo for high end 5 stack with consistent funnel. Or play slayer for an all around more pug friendly

[rose matrix]

No colossus

[rose matrix]

Yeah was just verifying. This guy was telling me it was because he held meta last 10%

He was saying that is why he lost to Colossus arms by 8k at the end

We had lust on pull too

[fresh spire]

[ebon jacinth]

guys

how many itmes can we craft

3 or 2 ?

[paper gulch]

You can craft as much as you’d like. Not worth it anymore but 2 embellishments

[stable fiber]

tbf i also held meta

in mine

so

[tropic dock]

Why is my champion Crucible Of Eractic Energies simming better than my Hero Puzzle Box? Does the Crucible tirnket not sim correctly?

[minor gust]

it sims correctly its just a good trinket

[rose matrix]

The guy just sucks ass. He was arguing with me about it and I don't play Dev so I was wondering whether or not he was bsing me

[stable fiber]

id expect like 90k minimum from a 286 ilvl dh on that bos slol

[rose matrix]

I asked him what his st sim was so we could compare

He told me two seperate numbers for in meta and outside

like wtf

Just tell me what it sims at

[stable fiber]

i sim at 90k at 277

[rose matrix]

He simmed at 94k

I simmed at 79k

[stable fiber]

94k?

[rose matrix]

And he lost to me by 8k

[stable fiber]

wtf

is he like

idk that seems low

[rose matrix]

How do you sim your st?

Any specific times?

[stable fiber]

5m

[rose matrix]

I just did 1 target 5m

Yeah still 94k

[stable fiber]

he prob has no raid buffs

ig

the guy should be doing more dps tho

[bronze flower]

Is slayer the go to build in every dung? Or colossus still better in some?

[rose matrix]

Wait

Idk

I had to enter in his name and shit to get his numbers

Since he wouldn't tell me straight up

Not sure how that would affect it

[sudden fox]

exe build in m+ feels crazy

[minor gust]

[rose matrix]

We thinking the prio damage of Slarms is worth it over MT?

[sacred zodiac]

talked to some people on the team and its gonna get emergency nerfed soon

[sudden fox]

pls no

[supple pasture]

What does execute slayer m+ change, compared to standard build?
Or does anyone have a link/screenshot to it?

[abstract sphinx]

I played arms in skyreach 18 felt pretty good

[abstract sphinx]

I stole it from bizz raider io check last dungs in AA/skyreach

Not at pc rn

[supple pasture]

Cool, thanks!

[ebon jacinth]

hey guys

is our bis weapon from pos ?

[abstract sphinx]

Ye

[rose matrix]

From M+ ya

[ebon jacinth]

oke then might have f up using those 2 rolls on nexus lmao, got wrists and 1 ring tho

[olive nest]

[minor gust]

[ebon jacinth]

dw guys used my 3rd one on pos got shoulders

surelly next run

oh right also what should we be crafting

back

and wrist ?

[calm oriole]

same here ... until i got the hungering trinket

[ebon jacinth]

cuz pzuzle is worse on arms

[calm oriole]

but simmed it on fury too and cruucible still wins

[ebon jacinth]

sim it again now in fury talents itll sim better

also why ru complaining fuck puzzle box

forces u to stand not dps

[calm oriole]

fuck cast trinkets fr

[ebon jacinth]

my 1st run on this warr (boosted 10 from guildies)
got both trinkets from academy

at first only puzzle box simmed better changed gear to better and suddnely the ball kicking was simming better than it lol

I just noticed biz is playing with only 1 ring from nexus

and on crafted legs huh

[scarlet mortar]

18 Seat with frozos talents

[minor gust]

not my build its FIshys I get it from the true Chef

[scarlet mortar]

okay fishys then

i peaked at 850k on the first pull

the sudden death procs were chefs kiss

[minor gust]

huge reap procs

[scarlet mortar]

i think you have to run with shaman

like its non negotioable

[minor gust]

I need to do more non shaman group testing

[ebon jacinth]

what are those

also yall using 1 talents for all dungs already

[minor gust]

from what ive seen Biz doing today Blord build still pretty good so its a good fall back if you dont have a shaman

[rose matrix]

Taking Massacre and ct

[short crescent]

Yo this Biz video says we are cleaving with ravager up in ST or at execute in ST

is that still true

[rose matrix]

It was at the time

Not anymore

[olive nest]

Arms owns

[stable fiber]

ok this st

is actually gross man

[scarlet mortar]

last boss of seat its v good

im a full believer in colo being a noob build LOL

slayer is where its at

[weak rain]

what are those

[olive nest]

@fresh spire cooked no doubt about it

[naive breach]

frozo deez nuts

[fringe leaf]

where's this build you guys speak of

[flint spear]

Yes I am also wondering of this build

[blissful tinsel]

nice, what's the import string? xo

[fringe leaf]

is it drop bloodborn and battlelord for massacre critical thinking?

[naive breach]

ep is back on the menu boys

[scarlet mortar]

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[short crescent]

Listen any numbers with an aug I'm skeptical of

[olive nest]

Don’t need or want Aug

You want shaman and you’re chillin

[scarlet mortar]

yes

but with shaman only

[short crescent]

Just saying, the numbers posted were aug and shaman

[scarlet mortar]

with no shaman i think you go original talents

[short crescent]

which is very nice

but not always what you get

[fringe leaf]

ok yeah saw that in bizcord thanks!

[fringe leaf]

how did it feel as for waiting around on procs or not?

im assuming with the shaman you werent waiting too long