arms

[thorn stream]

[slim iron]

What were they doing during maintanence if they had to hotfix the class changes in after?

[sacred raft]

pretending to busy.. who knows

[stoic oriole]

Taco Tuesday🌮

[slim iron]

Ohhh I thought the maintanence was so they could do the deployment and not each tacos. It all makes sense now

[graceful axle]

taco tuesday with margaritas

[limber badger]

Wait when did the hot fixes go live? I ran a key at like 9:30 pst and thought slayer was still dog

[sacred raft]

Yeah it is Cinqo De Mayo here in the US, you know the holiday that not even Mexico celebrates.

[slim iron]

How can Mexico not celebrate their own holiday

[spring vale]

they fuckin lost texas and cali dawg what are they gonna celebrate

[olive nest]

Lmao

[sacred raft]

Little historical significance as they treat their independance from Spain as their real Independance day

[grand pivot]

am guessing the hot fix isnt live on raidbots for warriors yet?

sim less now then yesterday

[olive nest]

Surprised if sims didn’t go live with patch

They are usually on top of that

Maybe busy

[spring vale]

did you check that its latest

instead of weekly

[bitter kestrel]

so blizz trolled us... well played

[minor gust]

slayer owns also that prot pally was a terrorist that key

[olive nest]

Yo!

How’s the boss dam

[limber badger]

What key lvl was this?

[minor gust]

dont hate me I fucked up game itself wasnt logging

[icy atlas]

[ashen trout]

are you running the talents you linked earlier?

[limber badger]

I did a slayer key this morning and it was dog but before the hotfixes

[minor gust]

Just a 17

[visual otter]

"just a 17"

[robust cliff]

what key?

[olive nest]

Elitism showing smh

[minor gust]

BS almost caught up

[olive nest]

[robust cypress]

Every prot pally pug is not a real human

[robust cliff]

13% from reap is good

alot better dmg

[minor gust]

I feel like I got some bad RNG on bosses was emberdawn

[spring vale]

man that udk was sleeping

[bitter kestrel]

Is that with the buffs though? Sounded like they didn't include the warrior changes. Or was that just applied after the fact

[minor gust]

that key was with buffs

[olive nest]

Nice nice

[icy atlas]

Man, Udks amazingly convince themselves that their class is bottom tier lol

[stoic oriole]

Good good , I'ma work on my 17s only playing slayer

[olive nest]

Sometimes procs screw ya wcyd

[frigid jewel]

Were their nerfs as bad as they're making them sound or is it just appropriate tuning

[spring vale]

udk nerfs are peanuts

[olive nest]

Man not playing with battlelord as slayer sounds rough ngl

[spring vale]

its 1.6% in ST and just under 8% in AoE, they're still the best spec

[frigid jewel]

Oh lol

[minor gust]

just alays have a shaman

[jovial hare]

this sounds disgusting all around
battlelord makes the spec flow so much better

[icy atlas]

From what I can tell, rightful nerfs to AoE for M+, they were overperforming. But it also nerfs their single target, which apparently their raid performance isn't that impreasive.

So, still top tier in M+

[olive nest]

True xdd

[wind hatch]

udk is performing very well in raid

[icy atlas]

I don't doubt, if you thought Arms dooming was bad. These guys doom even when they're good lol

[primal kettle]

what are thoughts on arms vs fury after patch?

[spring vale]

[thick kelp]

brooooooooo

[slim iron]

Ohh I thought Cinco del mayonnaise was to celebrate being free from Spain in exchange for Texas. Thats why you drink

[wind hatch]

true lol

[flat willow]

you should see dev dh

they are acting like the spec died

[keen siren]

how is slayer arms felling rn

guys

[dry canopy]

are our buffs even live?

i'm being told they arent even live.

[minor gust]

they are now yes

[spring vale]

deserved

[olive nest]

Frozo the slayer enthusiast

[keen siren]

@minor gust

[spring vale]

Froyo

[keen siren]

link ur build

plzzz

[minor gust]

First key of the day 17 WS

[left shard]

lets go

we love slayer

[keen siren]

build?

i want to run the correct talents

[minor gust]

Trying this out for now

you will be fine with wowhead talents just giving this a shake right now

[spice field]

Guys what is the weekly quest now?

hc item or something??

[keen siren]

big exe build

is it still 2 stacks then ms right?

[dreamy moss]

is cleave worth using on two target fights? (edited cuz it sounded weird)

[minor gust]

Only if CS is up and you got x2 stacks with this build. Otherwise spamming op/exe

[keen siren]

@dreamy moss i think its worth using over slam esp if target is below 35% health

[fervent cedar]

What's the boss dam looking like

[dreamy moss]

allright, thank you

[minor gust]

scroll up I posted emberdawn

[keen siren]

i could be wrong tho

im not an expert

[minor gust]

My RNG was pretty bad tho

[fervent cedar]

Not too shabby

[ionic mica]

cleave > slam if you have 3 stacks of collateral damage

[minor gust]

ive done higher than that before buffs so like

need to do more keys

[fervent cedar]

Fair

[pulsar frost]

All about sample size

[pulsar frost]

Lemme know when you get a sample size of 8

[keen siren]

do we upgrade weps this week?

[dark minnow]

what is the slayer m+ build

[left shard]

dont we cleave on 3 stacks of collateral?

whoops

[ionic mica]

haha yes

[icy atlas]

The Wowhead build should still be it

[left shard]

i might know why im doing less dmg than i schould

well we dont slam anyway in aoe

but like 3 or 2 targets

[ionic mica]

the question was about 2t

where you cleave if you have 3 collat stacks, otherwise slam is better

[frigid jewel]

Next week p sure

[boreal bay]

next week

[keen siren]

oh wow they changed the execute animation

it does like a sweeping cleave now

oh wait

[icy atlas]

It does with Sweeping Strikes up

[olive nest]

Upgrade weapon and both trinkets next week

[ionic mica]

do we know how tf it works yet, like how they are acquired?

[keen siren]

did it always do that

[dark minnow]

whats slayer arms m+ build ? ? ? /

[icy atlas]

Since TWW I think

[ionic mica]

or is it just the vague "you can start to obtain the item that upgrades your weap/trink"

[olive nest]

End of dungeon/delve and raid bosses

[ionic mica]

do you just loot them?

like cata charges

[olive nest]

I assume they are acquired randomly just like the catalyst charges

[ionic mica]

okay nice

no timegate would be nice

[icy atlas]

Just copy the Wowhead/Icy Veins guide

[olive nest]

From what I’ve read, there is no timegate just rng

[soft venture]

got a 170k overall on pit with this one as slayer lol (only a 14 so might be bias)

[minor gust]

[soft venture]

Idk if its just me but it felt like a lot more free execute procs than i am used to

[olive nest]

Wait did I read this right..
You are saying that you don’t cast MS unless CS is up?

[left shard]

no the other way around

no im dumb

i thought u guys were talking about bs

i cant even read

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-gif-17998277

[ionic mica]

its okay we are arms not eyes

[olive nest]

Truuuu

Xdd

[cosmic pecan]

anyone know why there is like 6 different ilvl for boe items in ah

[olive nest]

Different difficulties

[minor gust]

without MP talented yeah only MS when CS is up and you have x2 EP

[olive nest]

For the execute phase only correct?

[minor gust]

20% exe buff big

yeah

[ionic mica]

wtf exe must be hitting like a truck

[minor gust]

again this would only be with no MP talented so a M+ build

raid is normal

[olive nest]

Wow that’s going to feel so goofy to play

[brisk sedge]

any NA brothers have sims yet ?

[dark minnow]

do we use execute as a spender now

[olive nest]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3MNT3XPx1mii89Ba2fhkYw

I haven’t spent my crests yet this week because I haven’t logged on but I’ll be at about 108.5k once I can log on

Oh with vantus**

[icy atlas]

Inc Mortal Strike buff

Surely???

[brisk sedge]

damn that exe dps

[flat willow]

what talent do you think would be the least bad to drop for fatality

[minor gust]

theres not really anything else to drop in that build especially for something as shit as fatal

[flat willow]

but i like fatality

[olive nest]

Fatal in M+ is bad

You don’t fight the target long enough

[minor gust]

alright 18 MT time

[flat willow]

I just wanna vibe on slayer for a week until I have to get back to colossus

[olive nest]

Ooo big aoe key

Glgl

[elder zealot]

Question to you all about gloves: are you going for the gloves from Seat or the crit/haste ones from WS?

[olive nest]

For me with my stats the seat ones sim .2% better so I’m going for them

But the WS gloves are bis

[elder zealot]

Yeah it's a tough call 🤔

[olive nest]

Also like, the seat gloves have flavor and I don’t mind sacrificing a 100 or 200 dps to have a cool item equipped because my skill and ability will not notice that difference whatsoever

(If I was full best in slot)

[elder zealot]

For sure, and I think it's like 0.1% extra DPS over the course of a dungeon

[frigid jewel]

Did they ever fix the cleave/slam animation?

[elder zealot]

and if we ever get Alleria neck, I think it'll activate that

[olive nest]

It does

[quasi sapphire]

Is arms execute phase stronger that fury? Assuming both are slayer

[olive nest]

It increases the neck damn by .3% if you have both gloves and rings iirc

I could be wrong on that idrc

[random trout]

bro I did the same thing....

[elder zealot]

@olive nest which rings are you going for then? Purloined Wedding Ring + Occlusion of Void?

[olive nest]

I have both nexus point rings on myth track

[elder zealot]

How much damage does the set bonus proc do over a dungeon?

[minor gust]

nope tank didnt soak an orb on first boss moved out last second

[olive nest]

Hate to see it

[olive nest]

You know I honestly haven’t looked in while lol

[ashen trout]

not MSing unless in CS is crazy lol

[olive nest]

Only during execute phase* without martial prowess**

[ashen trout]

@minor gust rly think 2x critical thinking is better than 1x CT and Powerful momentum?

my balls tell me that 25% SS dam is bigger than the exe but im prob wrong

[copper socket]

the crucible sims higher for me that fully upgraded gaze. Grok is this true?

[slow saddle]

I mean fury st is real

113k

Tis gettin there

[sacred zodiac]

crucible punches above its weight class it is plausible idk abt it beating myth gaze

make sure you have its upgrades though

[storm canopy]

We are back

[wintry dome]

I mean thane fury seems highest mt now from the stuff in updates

[olive nest]

Must have a very weird gear setup for that to happen

[minor gust]

Sims at an even st vs aoe trade off pick your poison

[sacred zodiac]

thane fury always simmed higher than col arms

[wintry dome]

not according to stuff shown in updates channel

[storm canopy]

Are we better then unholy dk now?

[sacred zodiac]

i dont even know what is simmed there

[olive nest]

Probably 5T

[wintry dome]

yeah not gonna die on that hill just noticing

[olive nest]

Wait no that’s gotta be 10T

[sacred zodiac]

i mean numerically its certainly better but a player can leverage more out of arms than thane probably

mass execution my beloved..

[olive nest]

Bizbuild owner

[sacred zodiac]

what does biz build swap

[silent saddle]

Are we back?

[sacred zodiac]

good question

the edit ruined the bit

[silent saddle]

Haha sorry meant to reply to the comment above

[copper socket]

the table @smoky kayak posted is great. I wish we also had the ST damage with MT build added to it. I wanna know what my boss damage looks like with each MT build

[calm hollow]

how much without vantus?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9ZjAngXUTC4f2tnrT4KvQq

[bright grove]

So in Slayer M+ spec we dont press MS during execute phase ?

[sacred zodiac]

non vantus sims are kinda fake for prog since you should probs be running reck

[bright grove]

nvm im dumb

[olive nest]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/rNfVakcKhT3DYGLMw31TW5

[calm hollow]

[olive nest]

That’s before this weeks 100 crests into my helm I’m just lazy to make it on mobile lol

[calm hollow]

same, we are EU guys

[olive nest]

So we’re about the same roughly

Ahh yes eu slammer

[soft venture]

yeah slayer feels pretty solid, doing like 160-170k overall no aug, and ST is like 2x or more what I do in colossus lol. Given I have only tested pit so i can use my tokens lol

[olive nest]

I have to figure out how to make WS gloves an upgrade incase my vault drops them xdd

But I still stand by my earlier comment that seat gloves are just cool

[calm hollow]

i got them last vault, so took it

[olive nest]

Ye can’t not take a bis item

[calm hollow]

i will roll my 2nd nexus ring this reset too

[sacred zodiac]

voidclaw?

[calm hollow]

so i can roll on pit next

[olive nest]

WS gloves are technically bis

But voidclaw is just cool to have equipped

[olive nest]

Glgl 🙏

[pulsar frost]

wanted WS glvoes from vault, but got the voidones today, saves me rolling them tho

[sacred zodiac]

voidclaw cantrip..

[weary laurel]

so how much % is arms getting buffed, and how much % is fury getting buffed

[calm hollow]

3 item left there, so there is a chance i wont get it

[sacred zodiac]

ST demon..

[olive nest]

I have omega Crit so they are unironically simming worse than seat gloves right now lol

But with perfect gear they are bis

[olive nest]

I got spooned and mine dropped back to back in the same week lmao

[hybrid needle]

There literally is all the info in #updates-midnight

[pine oar]

How much did two target cleave get buffed?

[willow lance]

a little more than st?

[pine oar]

Curious if arms is still the play on Alleria or if fury is better now

Probably due to p3, but was curious if someone did the numbers on how much two target went up.

[calm hollow]

idk in new sims they are pretty bad

at least for me

[elder zealot]

500 DPS isn't much though + you get a cool cantrip

so it probably just comes down to preference / level of sweats

[calm hollow]

dude, what 500 dps

[pulsar frost]

it also depends on if both drops

vault gave me voidclaw, and i didnt have myth gloves

so its a easy pick to take the voidclaw and not worry about the slot like ever

[hybrid needle]

And here i Am, arguing if i should Stick to col or go and play thane

[urban fjord]

with the numbers for slayer MT vs colo arms MT, fury slayer is the play for keys now no?

small aoe loss for significantly more ST dps

[smoky kayak]

You can and should do your own sims, that table is not at all reflective of what you are or should be doing

[calm hollow]

oh wait, gloves is a loss, because of the loss of crit, so reck pot will shift to haste instead

[smoky kayak]

Do what you want

[wintry dome]

yeah I'll just copy w/e critcake is doing 😎

[smoky kayak]

Good reason not to use reck pot, it really ain’t worth

[hybrid needle]

Oh i am. Im arguing with myself cause i dont mind either

[smoky kayak]

Then do both

Flip each key

[hybrid needle]

Its a nice spot to be in tbh

[smoky kayak]

Follow your heart

[wintry dome]

flip a coin

[calm hollow]

well currently its worth it, in my gear, might not in the future, will use always the optimal pot

[smoky kayak]

It’s worth until you change a piece of gear, until you think an upgrade is a downgrade because you didn’t change a gem, or you use a vantus rune on bosses that actually matter

[calm hollow]

yea

but in 284, almost full bis, i wont change a lot

maybe after lura, but thats not happening soon, since bench would be cold without someone sitting on it

[little trellis]

is this the "correct" slayer build?

[lethal fiber]

Guys, sopmething change? or the ST and AOE still the same build?

[thick kelp]

no

[hybrid needle]

I cant play thane, just realised i dont even have mastery gear lol

[thick kelp]

Move bl + bb points -> massacre anf CT

[primal kettle]

whats main damage dealer in 10+ targets?

[lethal fiber]

have some log to see then?

[nova marsh]

cleave

[olive nest]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/wyP6QaMHbx2tNhLBd4Rtv6

[primal kettle]

so arms whole gig is colo smash and demolish on hitcap stuff?

cause like in 5 targets dosent look impressive and 1 target is giga trash

[sacred summit]

[small hamlet]

Will Colossus continue to be used, or will there be a trend towards Slayer Fury?

[primal kettle]

or am i missing smth

[olive nest]

It’s possible myth helm 289 changes things with gloves but Idk hard to say

[thick kelp]

arms whole gig is funneling

and owning any 2+ situation

if you arent owning then l2p

[fervent cedar]

On 3+ targets you are modifying cleave with things like CS and ravager to do maximum cleave damage
We have a bit of funnel, so in single target youre sad or the tank pulls stuff onto the boss and you can funnel into the boss

[wind hatch]

funnel is op damage profile

[olive nest]

Nuking the prio target in every pack is invaluable

[wind hatch]

^

[plucky bramble]

how much damage u guys do overall on keys? as slayer

[thick kelp]

arms might no joke have the best funnel in the game

[olive nest]

I’d argue it does as well

Literally double ST dps to the target when 2 punching bags are nearby

[fervent cedar]

Current theory is you Will play slayer in more st focused keys like AA and SR, then colo everywhere else

[wanton pine]

wait so whats better post update MT or S

[thick kelp]

colossus

[wanton pine]

ty king

[primal kettle]

what do you mean by funneling?

[fervent cedar]

Hitting multiple targets to "funnel" more single target damage into a priority mob

[primal kettle]

oh so more rage u mean

[fervent cedar]

No

[nova marsh]

Demo stacks, slams

That's kinda funnel

[fervent cedar]

It is done through fervor of battle, a talent that slams your target when you cleave 3+ targets

[primal kettle]

ah kk

[nova marsh]

Also our tier set with cleave to extend CS

[zealous sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/its-free-real-sate-gif-7215175

[thick kelp]

funnel situation you can like double your cs uptime on your prio target aswell

[primal kettle]

so then on what ammount of targets do you stop useing heroic strike?

[fervent cedar]

3+ targets

Always consume heroic strike with cleave

On 1 or 2 targets you can press hs

[primal kettle]

ah i see what u mean now

[minor gust]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/gxckK71z8CR93ZGm

[scarlet mortar]

so whats the arms slayer m+ build now cause im seeing warrior dropping cleave lol

[primal kettle]

only just swaped arms to do some dummy testing and on 5 targets it was meh and 1 target it was horrible

[minor gust]

I coulda played better but 17 MT

[zealous sphinx]

That be dope

[fervent cedar]

You shouldn't be dropping cleave in M+

Go to wowhead

[zealous sphinx]

A good hybrid would be fun for like skyreach

[scarlet mortar]

i think talents have changed because of the execution/overpower changes

[minor gust]

I accidentally did this key with 1ct + Powerful xD 17 MT

[fervent cedar]

They have not

#updates-midnight

[vagrant hull]

Still running as slayer?

[minor gust]

yee ofc

[bleak arrow]

Slayergodx

[surreal spade]

share talents please

[dim basalt]

Open wowhead and press copy

[glad scaffold]

Click his report from logs above they are on there

[surreal spade]

thought was changed

zzzz

[minor gust]

ive posted them multiple times

jsut scroll up or search my From me in discord

[glad scaffold]

His MT report from logs is like 7 messages up

Also sick dmg frozen

[dim basalt]

Frozen the Slayer God

Just imagine what he would do as col

[scarlet mortar]

see those talents arent from wowhead

[halcyon gulch]

@minor gust do you see any specific use case to play the mass exec build vs execute build? I saw you mentioned priority changes in aoe, how did that feel? Pretty fluid overall?

[glad scaffold]

Is prio not just execute on demand for reap?

[dim basalt]

Not pressing exe immediately does not lose dps

Unless you're capped on SD

[minor gust]

wdym what builds are you talking about im playing mass exec with exe talents still

[halcyon gulch]

Sorry, specific to critical thinking vs mass exec

[quasi swallow]

When arcji says arms slayer during execute phase multitarget mortal strike if 2 EP &CS does he mean to MS if 2EP stacks and MS if CS and no EP stacks or only if 2EP &CS?

[halcyon gulch]

thats what I meant by exec

[minor gust]

again sorry just a lil confused because this is what im running right now and it includes CT + Mass exec

[halcyon gulch]

ah okay, i thought you dropped CT for momentum and friends. interesting

Thanks! I got some homework to test 🙂

[minor gust]

oh yeah if u looked at that log I posted I accidentally didnt swap back. Was doing some sims with 1 ct + powerful before that

[ashen trout]

how was it feeling?

[halcyon gulch]

niceu

[ashen trout]

I tried the 1 u originally suggested and felt good, the lack of MS at low hp is weird af lol

[minor gust]

Caused occasional dry spell during execute even with shaman and that will just take some time getting used too

gonna be doing more keys with x2 CT tho

[ashen trout]

ye ill prob stick w x2 CT like u suggested

[scarlet mortar]

how does it change roation in aoe?

[ashen trout]

messing around between that and slayer fury rn

[thick kelp]

@minor gust Stance mastery is a gain over CF for slarms

[minor gust]

aoe prio doesnt change with this build basically besides when mobs are in execute you can do Cleave > OP > Exe rota

[minor gust]

really?

never checked

[thick kelp]

neutral ST for and +0.6% aoe

[minor gust]

stance mastery it is baby

gimmie that op shit

[mortal crag]

21 TIMED

WE'RE BIG

[thick kelp]

massive

[minor gust]

Massive ragish

[mortal crag]

1shot mc21

:3

bad overall

but timed is timed!!

220 ish

[wintry dome]

carried by a ret I bet

[quasi swallow]

In aoe slayer build in exec phase , when do u MS? And whats the prio list?

In wowhead only 'normal' MT prio is shown

[dim basalt]

Wat

[mortal crag]

nope

:3

carried by outlaw

mf did 240k

[minor gust]

outlaw strong

[mortal crag]

better buff dh

to compensate

[dim basalt]

Did you play with casualaddict?

[mortal crag]

no

babycrow

my beloved

[fiery inlet]

Did u play colo?

[mortal crag]

yeh

route wasnt most optimized for colo i believe

but honestly,

we were ahead on bl as well

like we didnt get bl last obss

boss

1:30 left on timer

[dim basalt]

Damn

[wintry dome]

holy pumper

[mortal crag]

ye

caught on stream too

OPA

sending sr21 now

[dim basalt]

gl

[mortal crag]

tyty

[scarlet mortar]

oooo slayer arrival

[mortal crag]

eu so yeah

[wintry scroll]

Is thane better than colossus now ?

[neon shale]

We doing Slayer in Academy chat?

[neon shale]

Doubt maybe close though

Playable 100%

[fiery inlet]

Ah fair enough, did u pull a pack into first boss?

[sacred raft]

bonus roll the plume worth it for H or just save it for M+ for myth gear?

[wintry scroll]

The sims are saying thane >

[fossil token]

Thats likely a 5 target sim

[dim basalt]

In good groups col will still be better I suppose

[wintry scroll]

Thnderblast has no target cap iirc

[fossil token]

Right but demo + cleave for arms vs just TB for thane

[thorn stream]

We could also do powerful instead of ME in „lower“ keys with the new slayer build, right ?

[static axle]

For low keys during gearing what should I play, arms of fury?

Know nothing about war this season ;D

[spice field]

prot

[rancid willow]

Play whatever you enjoy

[static axle]

I dont enjoy anything because my warrior is level 85

Im asking what works better for that period of time/gear

[rancid willow]

Play whatever you think you will enjoy

[sacred raft]

gacha's for gambling!

[static axle]

https://tenor.com/view/higuruma-hiromi-higuruma-jujutsu-kaisen-jujutsu-kaisen-meme-jjk-memes-gif-10370496866020481076

[rancid willow]

Prob fury in my opinion.

[drifting sparrow]

Either DPS spec but do delves prey and rituals IMO to gear

[rancid willow]

This

I skipped dungeons completely on my alts and went right to gearing via LFR, Delves & Prey. Then into M+

[static axle]

I have a group, we might reroll to phys comp

So gearing will be done via 12s

[olive nest]

Interesting choice

[hybrid needle]

Why 12s

[rancid willow]

Let’s see if it pays off cotton

[static axle]

Because they do nothing same as 10 but gives more crests

[rancid willow]

https://tenor.com/view/bold-strategy-dodgeball-cotton-strategy-tactics-gif-4957668

[forest dove]

we think slayer arms for algethar?

or what do people think?

[sacred raft]

are you particular to only melee dps?

[mortal crag]

@forest dove possible

we'll see how it goes

depends on comp as well

[sacred raft]

Could also try Enh Shaman for the skyfury to your phys comp

[mortal crag]

u go rsham

wym

[sacred raft]

in the instance he wanted to only choose between melee and they didn't have it, dunno

[olive nest]

BRM,Rsham,war/feral/hunt

That’s physical comp

[sacred raft]

I jus tplay what's fun

[pulsar frost]

is fereal the move? dont they also have dog ST?

[sacred raft]

which is why I don't log in much

[rancid willow]

Speaking of RSham

Any of you want one for some 14’s tonight? I’ll play it

[olive nest]

You could probably do an Aug instead of a hunt too lol

Aug is just rediculous at mob control

[rancid willow]

Maybe 16’s

[mortal crag]

aug flops with rsham

[olive nest]

Tru

[mortal crag]

same as hunt

its rough

[jade falcon]

why does aug flop with rsham?

[rancid willow]

I’m curious too

[olive nest]

He means they die

[hybrid needle]

Feral ST is almost as bad as colo

[grim oasis]

Aug is omega squish

[pulsar frost]

thats what i thought based on my fereal exp with folks

[grim oasis]

u check healing received in the Ddh/dk/Aug group and it's overwhelmingly Aug it's insane

[jade falcon]

currently, our group is BRM, Rsham, Aug, UHDK, and me as BM hunter, but I am thinking of gearing my prot warrior into arms

[pulsar frost]

Arms the way

[jade falcon]

is Rdruid a better pairing with aug?

[rancid willow]

Hpal got mega buffs…yall think we’ll see more of them in M+?

[pulsar frost]

We dont get reworked every season like hunters do

[rancid willow]

I haven’t grouped with one all season long

[jade falcon]

cuz our Rsham is also gearing a Rdruid

[rancid willow]

Same for Pres Evoker

[pulsar frost]

You'll be sad if you go arms if he switches off sham

Skyfury is very nice

[jade falcon]

ya his Rsham works for BM hunter as well which is nice

[pulsar frost]

Its not the it works for hunter. Col kinda needs it more then hunter

Actual dps loss if arms doesn't have sky. Tho not sure on slayers end

[reef glade]

socket vs bonus roll

dont tell anyone i picked the one on the right

couldve been left tho if game wasnt cringe and i didnt have to actually run down the entire loot table of this dungeon for my last ring to be the last roll

[dry frost]

0 vers life

[reef glade]

[pulsar frost]

I was one of those. Till game gave me myth void gloves

[hybrid needle]

Game gave me myth void gloves and crit haste gloves in vault.
I did not pick voidgloves cause sim said no

[pulsar frost]

I also would've picked the WR one if I had option

[visual otter]

myth void are bis for fury so i take them for simplicity when swapping spec

[frail blade]

There a Slayer M+ build to try out with the buffs?

[hybrid needle]

Yes but now that thane is in a better light im crying a lil bit

[ivory remnant]

dam fury slayer over takes ST, why arms hated on man

[gaunt owl]

don't be Jelly

both spec are hated by blizzard

its pure mathemical coincidence that Fury slayer pull ahead

[torpid acorn]

where?

Raid?

[ivory remnant]

yea

[soft peak]

Honestly 5-6 k dps is just min maxing at this point

You can play whatever you like most

Between arms and fury

Good thing is that fury is better and people can enjoy it too

[ivory remnant]

my issue is THEY ALWAYS put fury to the top, litteraly never let arms be a top spec

[torpid acorn]

6k is substancial

[soft peak]

Nah bro, anyways next patch both specs will be nerfed

[ivory remnant]

im sure they will

[clever crag]

6k is massive tf

fury shits cleave

arms does not

still not playing fury tho

[gaunt owl]

false fact

sometimes Fury got hit so hard they got the dumpster tier treatment

literally last dps spec in ST

[neon shale]

This ST arms slayer ?

[keen siren]

i think slayer fury is good now too

might try out fury

slayer arms feels pretty decent i would say

[nova marsh]

Pad tier

St is irrevlant

[raw sapphire]

Do you take ct for m+?

[minor gust]

18 slayer MT FDK ST kinda fucks

[pale mantle]

@minor gust dude

cursed key

haahahaha

its me

[minor gust]

that was indeed cursed

[raw sapphire]

Frozen ur the slayer expert why are you taking ct for m+

[minor gust]

sad because we time that ez with no dc 🙁

[pale mantle]

yes

we were with the same overall

until I dced

on second boss

[minor gust]

your boss dmg on emberdawn was crazy

HOLY

[pale mantle]

hahahha

[visual otter]

can someone translate for me

[pale mantle]

I got 15 stacks of alns + pot + fallen crusade + everything I had

[pulsar frost]

so how is it sir

does it feel

[pale mantle]

on opening

I think I got like 300k

[tulip breach]

is arms playable on chimaerus now?

[minor gust]

exe 20% buff. MS falling a lil behind x2 CT allows for exe spam in keys for a slight higher gain

[gaunt wigeon]

When unga bunga boss, frost dk UNGA BUNGA

[random trout]

u giving me hope brotha, i been wantin to go back slayer arms so bad lol

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-thank-you-bow-steve-carell-gif-5009516783019270794

[minor gust]

having a bit of fun mashing the fuck outta execute

feels good

[pale mantle]

ahaha I would have 180k or more if wasnt for my dc

fuck me

[random trout]

talent tree my good sir?

[raw sapphire]

is execute prio over ms in aoe too then?

[minor gust]

im still not able to get some crazy good results on ST with this build. Maybe just needs higher key not enough time in execute range

F log doesnt have that last 18 attempt

[soft venture]

how do yall manage rage in execute with the new ST? It still feels rough

[uneven minnow]

does our single target regular/execute rotation/talents change for the changes?

[minor gust]

with this build in aoe its Cleave > OP > Exe rota. Exe rota is MS only with CS and x2 EP > OP > exe

[random trout]

https://tenor.com/view/i-really-appreciate-you-curtis-payne-house-of-payne-bag-man-s9e3-gif-25260160

[soft venture]

so in exe without cs up we just spam execute and overpower + hit heroic strik procs?

[minor gust]

execute dmg went off in that 18

[minor gust]

yee

MS without MP kinda weak exe cranks

[nova marsh]

Holy shit

[minor gust]

Lol the recognition was funny

[uneven minnow]

what he doesnt mention is the 8 minute boss fight

[random trout]

the fact we actually hit execute puts a big ass smile on my face lol

[minor gust]

I was having some good SD rng that dung during aoe as well

also had some good low health mobs to finish off at the end of the pull where I was just spamming the fuck outta exe

getting my CS back super fast

[stable fiber]

@minor gust

slayer is nasty

only a +12 btw

so shit was dying instantly

[wind hatch]

aug?

[stable fiber]

i didnt have cleave on the first pull because i forgot to have it bound

ye we had aug

[wind hatch]

still crazy

i need to try it

[stable fiber]

we pulled funnel into the 2nd boss of maisara

i did

180k boss dps with aug?

not sure how much the aug removes

[wind hatch]

even without the aug thats still insane

[stable fiber]

yeah

[random trout]

disgusting... aug or no aug this is NASTY 🔥

[stable fiber]

i was kinda relearning arms in aoe

slayer arms*

oh btw

that is without a shaman

im gonna try slayer on every boss today i think

including dragons

not paladins but

ehh fuck it ill try it on paladins

[minor gust]

Slayer?

[stable fiber]

ye

[clever crag]

slayer meta

[minor gust]

based and huge

[clever crag]

seen it here first

[minor gust]

x2 CT + massacre or blord?

[stable fiber]

gonna log my keys

2x ct yes

• massacre

[minor gust]

how was boss dmg prob meh on a 12?

not enough time in execute

[stable fiber]

we killed the 2nd boss

in like 40 seconds

lol

[minor gust]

lmao

[stable fiber]

2nd boss maisara

i did 185k dps

to the boss

(with aug)

[minor gust]

slayer does have funnel too

[stable fiber]

ye

[gaunt owl]

funnel my duck

[minor gust]

PPaww come back and player slayer you can spin and spam execute

[gaunt owl]

if its not funneling like rogue did back in BFA its nothing

[clever mulch]

is consensus slayer over colossus rn in m+?

[minor gust]

no colo likely still better especially with coordinated groups

[gaunt owl]

having too much fun irl now no time to get depression playing WoW

[minor gust]

well encase you ever wanna hate life again wow is always here waiting

[gaunt owl]

https://tenor.com/view/friends-joey-tribbiani-matt-le-blanc-monica-geller-courteney-cox-gif-17957136

i will always be lurking til my last breath or wow end up dying too

[minor gust]

Even execute in that 17 MT cranked with this

[shadow void]

damn thane numbers are higher than colo in the sims? does this translate to real dungeon runs or?

aoe i mean

[rigid ravine]

sims always reflect the ideal situation but not one you will always be in

things "should" be in a state where you can play w/e and be fine

[shadow void]

sure but even if its close, with the higher ST wouldnt it just be better

(i know you can play w/e)

[wintry dome]

people will do real keys and figure it out, hard to account for all the little details from the sims alone

[ripe field]

For whatever reason, sims have shown Thane to be superior to Arms Slayer all season in all target counts. But real world data suggests that Arms is superior to Thane.

[shadow void]

fairs and true

as long as slayer arms is blasting im happy, i dont have the jittery high apm in me anymore

[random trout]

question guys, https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vSynbQ9qukZsr3R8NucG3o those boots are those crafted? its not showing in the dungeon stated they should drop from

[sacred zodiac]

theyre catalyzed boots

[sacred zodiac]

shown by the little "cat" in the top left corner

[random trout]

gotcha, appreciate you bro

[sacred zodiac]

@random trout check if enchanting a second eyes of the eagle on your rings is a dps increase

[random trout]

will do

[radiant trail]

is the void ring combo simbait?

[ionic reef]

so my guild is progging March if i wanted to do the most dps i could would i go arms or fury>

[sacred zodiac]

define simbait

[random trout]

same results brotha

[sacred zodiac]

interesting

[radiant trail]

@sacred zodiac performing better on sims than in content

[sacred zodiac]

no its not simbait

[radiant trail]

Ty sir

[bright marsh]

take the socket

[wary nest]

hello fellow gamers, whats the best warrior dps spec for m+ now

[wind hatch]

arms

[limber badger]

has anyone run some 19s/20 with slayer yet?

[cyan skiff]

I've been strictly using reckless pots, should i not?

[dire hinge]

just sim it to see which is better based on your current stats. Reck is usually better, but can situationally be worse.

[tulip breach]

???

[dire hinge]

also hello im back from vacation 👋

[sacred zodiac]

gm hrothmar the shapoid

[willow lance]

Yes?

[wind hatch]

it's always been

probably still one of the worst specs on that fight

chimaerus is really easy anyway

[willow lance]

Which would be worse, slayer arms or thane fury

[wind hatch]

slayer arms

thane fury has better dmg profile for the fight

[sudden fox]

If you aren’t going down second and cheesing the end of the fight, sure

[shadow void]

do you guys press avatar before key countdown for first pull

[proven delta]

for simming for m+ what options should we select?

[wind hatch]

nah

[pulsar frost]

Avatar doesnt come back up on key

[wind hatch]

8t 1 min and 1t for 3/4 min

[pulsar frost]

Blizzard doesnt like min halfs

[stable fiber]

200k in a mt with no au

aug

solid

[pulsar frost]

Slayer ?

[stable fiber]

210k

slayer

100 for key level

[proven delta]

hectic cleave?

or patchwerk

[wind hatch]

patchwerk

[minor gust]

Just first key without a shammy on this build

[ripe field]

waiting on resources

[minor gust]

yeah x2 CT still isnt enough shammy required

[fierce swan]

Slayer feels waay better now

[stable fiber]

doing 100k boss ps

dps

feels so good

[torpid acorn]

not enough rage

[ripe field]

Ya finally breaking the 100k ST mark feelsgood

[novel raven]

@minor gust do you not even think its better for SR/AA?

or when you said colo still better were you referencing the other keys

[fierce swan]

Even AOE with those buffs feel good also

[ripe field]

Im guessing that any dungeon you can bring funnel onto bosses or is already 2t, Colo is still the play

[minor gust]

Ive only done a handful of keys since buffs real answer is TBD.

either way genuienly play what you enjoy more

[novel raven]

just scrolled thru and saw you say it

[proven delta]

sorry to question spam you, i assume a crit trinket (fiber of living agnony) is simming lower than void stalker contract, because ive hit crit soft cap?

[ripe field]

Depends on your other substats as well

I had my Crit and Haste so high that sims suggested I start using Mastery flask

[proven delta]

i just hate to fully trust sims, since its a perfect world scenario

anyone mind looking at my string? i only have standard raidbots, not preumium

[vagrant hull]

You going to trust nerds in discord over sims?

[proven delta]

yeah 🙂

i like the nerd input

[vagrant hull]

That's a bold move cotton

[proven delta]

i lost my shins

[pulsar frost]

Who do you think made the sims

The nerds

[ripe field]

Its fair to question the validity of sims, but for verifying which option is best in your situation for substats you have sims and feelscraft

[teal pollen]

Hey guys, super new to Warrior been playing it for a week and now with the changes, are we playing Arms still, and if so Slayer or Colossus? This is for M+ only not raiding. Thanks

[soft venture]

slayer in keys in execute feels like i just have no rage lolol

[pulsar frost]

Folks are testing slayer currently

[wintry dome]

it will be clear after few days of gamers running keys

[teal pollen]

Thank you !!

[pulsar frost]

Col has no rage. I dont run into this issue as much on slayer

[proven delta]

ill take this void contract with trust

simming close to 100k ST now, which is fun

[fallen dome]

Have you tried dropping dreadnaught for overpowering finish? Is that an overall dps loss or worth if you're trying to focus more single target damage?

[ripe field]

I dont get what's going on with War sims generally. Thane looks like it should be better than Arms Colo and Arms Slayer, but it just isn't....

[minor gust]

DN is ST dmg too. Even if the dmg is meh not dropping DN for keys

[ripe field]

Crazy that Thane sims higher in MT than Colo. Anyone who has played the two extensively can tell you that Colo is way ahead

[minor gust]

because they are just aoe and ST sims and simming for M+ isnt gonna be accurate with how M+ functions

[proven delta]

two on use trinkets seems so gross

[pulsar frost]

Which trinks

[wind hatch]

most likely, because for me the fiber of living agony sims better

[pulsar frost]

Only need 1 or 0 on use

[wind hatch]

sims are good for determining gear upgrades but I wouldn't really use them to determine the viability of a spec

[proven delta]

sealed chaos urn and void stalker contract is what raidbots is saying to use out of my current gear

[ripe field]

I understand this. Its just that usually sims map to real world data pretty accurately. And more generally speaking they probably still do. This is the first time ive seen such a huge disparity

[pulsar frost]

Cursed

[vernal pebble]

do we have a veredict about what is strong rn?

[pulsar frost]

Get better trinks man

[proven delta]

trying :/

ive been back for 2 weeks after a 3 year break

[minor gust]

yeah in a patchwork scenario its accurate not in an M+ scenario

[pulsar frost]

Sims has good tanks. Real world tanks are debatable

[proven delta]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dHxEukjwuvFye6SX3mArvS

[pulsar frost]

40 sec Sims o.o

[proven delta]

thats what bro said to do above

3/4 min

for m+

the 1.5 min 8t says same for trinkets >.<

[wind hatch]

in this case the contract is just performing better because its higher ilvl than your other trinkets

flat damage trinkets like that tend to not scale well with ilvl so as your gear gets better it will probably perform worse

[wind hatch]

i meant 3-4 min lol

sorry

[proven delta]

lol gotcha, let me redo it

okay yeah, living agnony doing better with that time

which plays well with my brain

since im lacking ST, i think thats the move

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qvbfEu8Fz9gFZHC9PCKET6

thank for all the help!

[vale warren]

IS IT JUST CATA FOR MYTH TIER? OR THOSE WEIRD TOKEN THINGS

[stable fiber]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/p2QwFLydNwQvscd1MWE4Wd

is this good

execute above mortal strike 🥀

[minor gust]

yes

[wind hatch]

depends on what you have

[vale warren]

i went shoulders for myth tier :3

i mean i don't feel like the gem slot is that crazy? or am i severely undervaluing it

[shadow void]

how you guys simming aoe, just patch 5 bosses?

[dire hinge]

there's no prefect way to do it. If you ask 10 different people you'll get 10 different answers that all claim to be the best.
It's all basically an educated guess.

do single target, do 5 target, change the durations around if you want, but it should all be about the same recommendations anyways tbh

[wind hatch]

^

[shadow void]

okay thanks, will try that

[dire hinge]

beacuse of our current design you can pretty much just go 1 Target and it'll be mooooostly accurate anyways

[crystal nexus]

has anyone noticed if you use execute while sudden death is active and colossus smash is on cd it actually increases the cd

[minor gust]

17 seat slayer action ALSO HOLY MOLY EXECUTE DMG

[vast tinsel]

That’s wild

[dire hinge]

im just now coming back from vacation and haven't heard of this directly yet. What talents were you running? I can try and replicate it

[latent moss]

what the helly

2nd highest damn

[minor gust]

[mild dagger]

Looks like meat is back on the menu

[minor gust]

Shaman absolutely required for this build

and you unleash execute

[mild dagger]

Mind sharing your talents (if different bag the posted ones)? I’ve been itching to play slayer

[minor gust]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/gxckK71z8CR93ZGm?fight=last @thick kelp Look at execute dmg in this 17 seat lmao @stable fiber

[fierce swan]

Swapping crushing combo for powerful momentum feels way better also

as slayer that is

[crystal nexus]

standard m+ talents, just intimidating shout instead of bounding stride

my shadowplay was off, but i could've sworn i saw it go from 2s to 3s after i used execute

[minor gust]

its a bug thats been around since TWW very difficult to replicate

Archi thinks its just visual UI tho

[wind hatch]

I think its when you have 2 sd stacks

[crystal nexus]

i thought it was too, but i wasn't able to use colossus smash

unless im just giga dumb

[minor gust]

yee also affects ava now too not just CS thanks to AM

[vocal solar]

Is this post buffs?

[sharp bronze]

only exec on SD right ?

[dire hinge]

yeah i haven't been able to replicate it on my end, but Frozenbozo is likely correct here-- UI bug but not a practical one.

[minor gust]

yes post buffs and no not only with SD this is slayer not colo

[dusky kelp]

Hello friends, what talent amkes it so that rend works in Aoe

[minor gust]

rend itself

[dusky kelp]

Oh

You're right LOL

Cool

[ripe mountain]

Do we think arms is still the move on mythic l'ura?

[dire hinge]

yeee no reason to take Tclap unless you want an AoE slow

[blissful tinsel]

Does reflecting the transference in NPX do anything? The reflect sound goes off after a delay

[umbral wagon]

How does dropping battlelord for the execute stuff feel through a key? Haven't ran one without it yet. Been using Biz's build

[lavish iron]

Whats the build wanna try it tomorrow 👀

[rose matrix]

So we just run Thane over Slarms in AA and SR

[dire hinge]

it's currently marked as unknown/bugged so it's likely just a Deflect
https://maxroll.gg/wow/resources/spell-reflect-guide#chief-corewright-kasreth-trash-header

[analog carbon]

anyone have a good slayer m+ spec they can share?

[dire hinge]

CcEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAgZmZmFzYmZGAAAghphxwMbLzMzMjZGzMAAAAAGLzMgwYZbgFwAmhJwMYDMzwYbwsNz2AMzAAzwA

[analog carbon]

Ty brother

[fierce pebble]

That statement kinda throws me off a bit, since I’m also trying to assess this week’s changes effect on m+. Mind sharing why this would be?

[glass plank]

does anyone know whats going on? ive been always reflecting ick's death bolt flawlessly until last night on a +19 ..my spell reflect goes off instantly. so I tried it today on a +14 cause we thought it was my reflect going on cause of the green puddles ..so it just happened again, reflected idk what and the bolt hits me :c nothing shows up in logs too

[rose matrix]

Because Slarms aoe is pretty bad and the st is comparable between the two

[umbral wagon]

looks like the back shade was about to cast on you and it munched ur SR

[granite swift]

Why does it sound like you reflected something before it hit

[latent moss]

you reflected something else

before the bolt

[dire hinge]

yeah my guess would be one of the other adds was also targeting you but your bars aren't showing for them

[glass plank]

thats the problem like before i'd use spell reflect on 5 seconds before his cast and i would deflect NP ...but since last night I use spell reflect and i reflect something right away idk why D:

[fierce pebble]

I might be missing context, but why wouldn’t Colossus be a part of this comparison?

[wind hatch]

AA and SR are keys where single target is more relevant

[rose matrix]

You avoid it in AA and SR because of its terrible st

[umbral wagon]

just bad rng honestly. adds are up longer on higher key, more opportunities to get ur SR munched

[fierce pebble]

In AA, that’s surprising. Lotsa people try and do both big pulls at both tree and elemental. I understand more bosses makes it important, though, so I see why.

[wind hatch]

I think you reflected the shadowbind of the shade the moment it died

[reef glade]

@latent moss ethical ye or nay

just slayer

[latent moss]

hoooooly

🐐

[reef glade]

guild not doing paladins...

why do i even play this game

+10 minutes on lura so big

[wind hatch]

the problem is that you can't really funnel for either crawth or dorogosa and those are both pretty demanding bosses

[reef glade]

still need weapon to be allowed to play fury

but gg arms locked perma i guess

apparently i had mastery flask on that boss from when i tried fury on salhadaar

so my reck pot procced haste instead of crit

fun

never being whimsical again

[soft venture]

i wonder if there is any build we can take where when execute hits we only spend on execute. I miss those days

[steep walrus]

So whats the deal? Is pretty much every key still colossus?

And is fury now "better" or is it pretty much the same as before just everyone does a bit more single target?

[stray pike]

weap or gloves?
current weapon is 276, but I can upgrade a haste/mast or crit/haste to 298 next week. Current gloves are myth track crit/mast.

Are voidclaw gloves that good?

[rose matrix]

They're harder to get than a weapon

[stray pike]

Fair

[blissful tinsel]

Ty

[minor gust]

@latent moss Lmao did it execute top dmg 17 npx

[olive nest]

bro that is so sick

same build?

[minor gust]

this shit feels so good when you have a shammy

[olive nest]

the one you linked earlier i mean without mp

[minor gust]

the abillty to just finish packs

yeah same x2 CT + massacre

ive stopped hitting op once lil mobs die off and prio target in execute

and im just spamming cleave execute

shit feels soooo good

[minor gust]

Feels good with a shammy without its questionable

[olive nest]

you got a import code?

[dark minnow]

whats the arms slayer build for m+

[latent moss]

holy peak

[minor gust]

CcEAjLzRlq54bI5v+r8Sr9Xw4jZmZmFzYmZGAAAghphxwMbLzMzMjZGzMAAAAAGLzMgwYZbgFwAmhJkZwGYmhx2gZbmtBYmBAmhB

[olive nest]

thanks goat

[minor gust]

This feels great

just spamming cleave execute fucking

alright im having fun again just need a shaman slave at all times

[flat willow]

are enh shamans back to existing with their latest buff

[dark minnow]

do we prio execute now out of sudden death in execute?

[latent moss]

ye i can imagine

[latent moss]

finally looks like a slayer breakdown

[minor gust]

just need to convince Biz to do a slayer key with this build

so I can see it in a 20+

[latent moss]

shouldn't be hard

[olive nest]

wicked good looking break down

[minor gust]

only thing is im not seeing that great of a ST boss dmg than I would like

lmao this was corewarden breakdown

[steep walrus]

Did nothing actually change with builds? Is slayer better in m+ now? It felt like it was all colossus last week

[olive nest]

[cunning burrow]

we have new builds for this reset?

[soft venture]

i feel like its a lot of rng, ive had like 75k, 85k, or 100k, but depends on the procs of execute you get and stuff

[steep walrus]

Idk bro no one will answer me ive asked twice

[vale warren]

havoc dk is pumping ;-;

bro had an 900k opener in pit lmao

[grim oasis]

havoc always cranked

ddh just cranked more

[minor gust]

you can play same builds relax

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1234949058121171069

[languid torrent]

@grim oasis eat shit, got it in vault

[cunning burrow]

how much ilvl this DH?

[grim oasis]

about time

nice ring, i got it too

war is JUICED

[languid torrent]

wep has avoidance

[spring vale]

Are there any numbers for the diff in ST between Slayer and Colo?

[languid torrent]

ALOT

slayer gaps

[spring vale]

Ahh 😔

[vale warren]

277

[reef citrus]

Ahh shyyt looks like we gotta reroll to fury boys. We now need full set of new gear??

[minor gust]

[grim oasis]

fury

[full grotto]

i already have a crafted cloak and have tier set at mythic

[brave silo]

Reroll token or a socket?

[gusty nymph]

should i get the mythic puzzle box^ i heard it is cluncky to use...

[steep walrus]

who says im not relaxed bud

[onyx rapids]

is fury pumping again... my god

all my gear is arms lol

[hybrid needle]

Just Stick arms

Nothing wrong with it?

[strange comet]

My gear is all arms and fury is simming higher in all content. but thats 5 target capped so Colo is still m+ king probs

[full grotto]

col arms is still the choice for big pulls it seems

also wtf is mountain thane you playing skyrim

?

[strange comet]

ngl i love MT, but thats okay

[hybrid needle]

Col has way better prio damage than MT, itll most likely still be the better pick
But just play what u like more and build your group around it

[rose matrix]

I would say MT Fury over Slarms in keys

If you are swapping for st

[flint wind]

hey hi)
what about slayer arms via execute talents (massacre, critical thinking ...)?

[minor gust]

Scroll up and find out

[rose matrix]

Idk if it's just sims but Thane literally clears Slarms badly

I was looking forward to Slarms but it might just be a fury angle

[wary spindle]

how bad is the difference between Slayer Arms and Fury?

[rose matrix]

In Sims it's pretty big

Huge aoe diff and even a large st diff

[wary spindle]

I've been running keys (15's 16's) as Slayer Arms and it does a very good amount of dmg I finished at 155k ovr in Skyreach

[rose matrix]

Don't swap if you like it, it's fine

I just swap based on damage for the most part

[wary spindle]

I've been playing warrior forever I love all 3 specs, just wondering which is best tbh

[hybrid needle]

You just wanna Stick to slayer in general ?

[rose matrix]

Colossus is probably the best bet if you can get funnel in all but SR and AA

[minor gust]

Fury yucky

[rose matrix]

Then I would bet Thane is the best in those two

Honestly Fury has felt way better than Arms for a while but I like both specs

[wary spindle]

Fury still plays Thane even after buffs?

[rose matrix]

Yea outside of pure st

[hybrid needle]

Depends on where

[wary spindle]

and slayer fury clears slayer arms in pure st?

or is it close

[hybrid needle]

Raid is Favoring rowards slayer now afaik

[zealous sphinx]

You gotta explain to me how your Execute dmg so high lmao

[surreal aurora]

this is what the fury channel posted

[wary spindle]

there's bosses where demolish is very good

tho

no?

like dragons

[minor gust]

More execute focused slayer build and pressing execute a lot

[zealous sphinx]

Yeah I tried the build but kept the same normal rotation, do you just execute whenever at 35%?

Execute when cleave on cd on 3target>

[rose matrix]

Probably just focuses it more at lower target counts

Instead of full aoe

[zealous sphinx]

Yeah but hes got execute top damage last log lol

[strange comet]

done some keys as slarms and MT so far. Slarms feels good, but MT is beating it by a bit

[rose matrix]

I mean I am way more geared for Arms than Fury and MT is still clearing Slarms by a lot

[strange comet]

tried the execute build that was posted earlier

[minor gust]

exe priority is MS with CS + 2EP only > op > exe.

In aoe cleave > op ms until small mobs are dead and prio target in execute then you swap into cleave execute spam

Shaman is required

Need to test more no shaman keys but might be normal BLord slayer if you don't have a shammy

[rose matrix]

So you only execute when you have both CS and 2EP stacks? Not just one or the other?

[minor gust]

You mean MS?