arms

[hybrid needle]

No

Dont take feral

2 classes with no st and your key is ded

[pulsar frost]

Worse then ducking col arms

[spark mango]

i did magister's with feral and outlaw, felt like doing 10

[nova marsh]

I genuinely find that hard to believe

[pulsar frost]

It used to be simple take MM

Then you're fine with whatever for ST

But mm garbo rn

So idk who else to take

[hybrid needle]

SV?

[blazing solstice]

Take surv

Problem solved

[pulsar frost]

Surv is eh

[spark mango]

you can't do bad damage with shaman,monk, warrior and druid buff tbh, its skill issue

[pulsar frost]

The players I've met are not the brightest

Compared to MM hunters

[hybrid needle]

Surv will whoop your boot in aoe burst anf st

[spark mango]

both feral and colossus arms without funnel will do 70k+ and rouge is chilling on 100

and aoe packs melt

[hybrid needle]

They easily burst 800k in aoe and do 95k+ st

[nova marsh]

You underestimate how terrible my skill truly is

[spark mango]

also timer is lenient in most keys and coming wenseday we have more options to do St damage as warrior when comp calls for it

[hybrid needle]

Just dont invite cats

[desert briar]

So after reset it looks like:
AOE: Colossus, Mountain, Fury Slayer, arms Slayer right?

[candid garden]

Who strongest ST classes

[desert briar]

And ST basically the other way around?

[hybrid needle]

Some Sims ive seen say thane better than col aoe. Dont trust what i say

[viral fiber]

Just when I wanted arms fury is stronger now damn

BTW our bis weapon is from pit right?

[jolly cedar]

from m+ build and raid build, which CD's are supposed to line up with each other and be used together?

[nova marsh]

We dont know yet

Sims are not finalized i dont think

[viral fiber]

What about weapon

[nova marsh]

Pit weap yes

[viral fiber]

I am using all my voidcores on pit

[nova marsh]

Yes

Gamba in pit

Roll cloak

Roll weapon

[jolly cedar]

is that mace from pit also bis on fury?

[nova marsh]

Fury wants crafted OH and liferippers irrc

Ph wait

Im a dumbass

The magisters 2h i think is better....tbh id just sim it

[hybrid needle]

In case of doubt ask wowguide head

[nova marsh]

In case of doubt ask the clanka

also wowhead guide

[hybrid needle]

Wowguide head

[nova marsh]

Wow guides my head

[hybrid needle]

[dim basalt]

guides wow my head

[hybrid needle]

Soo do i reroll Outlaw

[nova marsh]

I stg warriors sharing a braincell rn

[nova marsh]

No

Dont play the fart spex

fatebound is technically p close now but depresso

[hybrid needle]

Why not

[nova marsh]

Because outlaw....is so close to being great

Also

I wish theyd kept crackshot

That shit was goated during remix

[hybrid needle]

Havent played rogue since mop

[nova marsh]

Ahhh

Do u like fury

[hybrid needle]

Yes

[nova marsh]

Ehhhh you'll probably like outlaw

Imagine fury, but with a gun and a lot more rng

Also...without like half the defensives

[hybrid needle]

I literally like all 6 war options.
But thane fury is def the last on the list

[nova marsh]

I think slayer is closer to law tbh

In feel

[hybrid needle]

Idk what it is

Thane prot is fun. Why isnt thane fury fun

[nova marsh]

Ig because prot always uses clap?

So thane just makes it better

And it slots in nicer then fury over just giving you a juiced up ww essentially

[hybrid needle]

Its prolly just cause thane fury feels wrong

[nova marsh]

I like thane fury...but honestly

I still hate hero talents

[hybrid needle]

Its less of a hack n slash and more of a shaman on drugs

[nova marsh]

Shaman but without the spells

[hybrid needle]

Sounds like a shaman, looks like a stomping shaman..

[viral fiber]

I hope arms not dead tomorrow rolling from prot to arms since stats are same. Cant reroll to fury

[astral yarrow]

Stats dont mean as much as people think it does

but lack of crit will make arms feel sluggish

[viral fiber]

Yeah 100 mastery not gonna help fury

Prot haste and crit are almost equal

1k 1k to be honest

[astral yarrow]

as long as you have haste, fury is good and feels good

so if you prefer fury, theres no reason not to play it over arms

[viral fiber]

I am playing whichever is best

[odd cipher]

arms damage profile just provides more value imo

[viral fiber]

I have no prefer over fury or arms but avoid fury since no mastery

[hasty pumice]

Why would arms be dead tomorrow after buffs

[astral yarrow]

with the buffs arriving today/tomorrow, fury might be good in more cases, but as it is right now, arms outperforms in most scenarios

[viral fiber]

Fury might be better buffed idk

[hasty pumice]

M+ colossus will still be king, in raid it depends on the encounter and context

Best case is our dragon mythic fight for example

Normally arms is way better there but since we don't have a blood DK we struggle with orbs

[viral fiber]

I am pushing 19+ dont care about raid got all bis trinkets

[hasty pumice]

So I play fury to kill most of them due to massive aoe range but sacrifice boss damage

I'm pushing +21

[viral fiber]

So you pushing as fury?

[hasty pumice]

No

[astral yarrow]

[viral fiber]

Will you push as fury tomoroow?

[hasty pumice]

No

I just swap to what's best

[astral yarrow]

I think we might see fury be better in Algethar

but i doubt it anywhere else

[hasty pumice]

If fury is better in e.g. skyreach I go fury

If fury is better in a raid fight, I go fury

Arms I more fun but idc which one of the two I have to play

[astral yarrow]

pulls are just too big everywhere else

[viral fiber]

Do you switch gears when go fury?

[hasty pumice]

Yes, that's why you keep all relevant gear

My fury gear isn't bis but I still get to 800 mastery

[viral fiber]

I dont have mastery how am I going to play fury

[hasty pumice]

On fury I have like

700 crit, 1200 haste, 800 mastery

Not the worst

[astral yarrow]

you get a ring+neck with mastery

and dont care too much about stats

i dont think it has been simmed this xpac, but in TWW, the difference between bis profile and full vers gear was like 5%

so its not like stats are end all be all

[hasty pumice]

Fury utilises all stats pretty well

Obviously haste mastery focus is way better than some crit, but it's not a huge diff

[astral yarrow]

It just gets kind of overemphazised

[hasty pumice]

I mean some specs are just really shit with a certain stat so I get it

[astral yarrow]

I get that specs can feel worse when not having the right amount of haste or crit

but that is very rarely the actual issue

[viral fiber]

Well even if I wanted I dont have a single 2h anyways hoping to get 1 from voidcore

[astral yarrow]

you sort of have to start there then dont you xdd

or craft a 2h

[viral fiber]

As you know no spark

[astral yarrow]

diff between 289 and 285 embellished is also not that big

[viral fiber]

Used all my crafts

[astral yarrow]

how would i know you dont have a spark man

[viral fiber]

How am I be pusihing 19s without using all my spark on each week 🤣

[astral yarrow]

19s are not that hard my man

[hasty pumice]

How are you pushing 19s without crafting a weapon

[robust ridge]

You absolutely don't need to have used all sparks to push 19s

[viral fiber]

I mean I am prot

[astral yarrow]

18s and 19s were done first week in 270-275 ilvl

[viral fiber]

I have 1 h but nit 2h

[robust ridge]

Also - plenty of people are picking up items from M Raid or bonus rolls, and often that's a more worthwhile investment of crests over crafting

[hasty pumice]

If you crafted a 2h you could've gotten a mythic 1h and shield and upgrade them for free to 285

https://tenor.com/view/stonks-up-stongs-meme-stocks-gif-15715298

Obviously easier said that done

[viral fiber]

I am switching only because prot is dead

EU title range only 1 war in cut

[astral yarrow]

be the 2nd

[viral fiber]

Easier said than done

Go arms zug2 better

[astral yarrow]

as with most things

[viral fiber]

I would try to be 2nd only if pugs werent meta slaves

I got 0 invite

[astral yarrow]

yea im not playing if im pugging

life is too short to pug

[raw sapphire]

how much of a dps boost is skyfury for arms?

[thick kelp]

alot

[hasty pumice]

Roughly 10%

[viral fiber]

What how 3% stat give 10%

[hasty pumice]

You get double auto attacks occasionally, which gives you 40+ rage instead of 20+

Without shaman rage is very scarce

With shaman you'll likely never have problems

[viral fiber]

Ok noted

[robust cliff]

I actually simmed this the other day it was 11% increase for me over 5t 5 mins

I am generally under the impression that outside of the meta poop comp the actual next best is phys comp if you manage to get a monk who can pull around warrior funnel. every warrior main can only wish they were good enough to play with monksea this tier

[raw sapphire]

yea its gr8 when tanks pull for funnel

then you have paladins spamming storm on the funnel and killing them

but finding a shaman is rough these days

[dusty gazelle]

Do all shamans have skyfury in midnight? Or just enhancer for the windfury effect?

[zealous wigeon]

All shamans

[dusty gazelle]

Great, thanks! 💚

[radiant patio]

With the next reset, does MS get low prio? Like do we even send it in execute phase?

[astral yarrow]

as slayer you send it at 2 stacks of EP during colossus smash, but otherwise no

[radiant patio]

On retail there very rarely spec specific buffs, the only one i can think of is aff lock with curse of the satyr

[astral yarrow]

i am actually unsure if that only applies to the m+ build

[old glacier]

Am I crazy or ar there lots of spells we can't reflect anymore that we could last week?

[astral yarrow]

let me check

[radiant patio]

M+ i was thinking, yes

[thick kelp]

yes

it has the MP line

actions.slayer_execute+=/mortal_strike,if=buff.executioners_precision.stack=2&(talent.martial_prowess|!talent.martial_prowess&debuff.colossus_smash.up)|debuff.colossus_smash.up&talent.battlelord

[hasty pumice]

Why would it be low?

In aoe it's 2nd highest priority, in ST it's highest minus heroic strike procs

If you play colossus

[astral yarrow]

yeah i didnt remember whether the additional conditionals made a difference between the builds

i just show up and press buttons this tier

[radiant patio]

bcs OP gest a buff and reap the storm also gets a buff, so they get more prio

[rain cipher]

During that window in execute phase? I didn’t get it

[astral yarrow]

mortal strike if 2x EP and CS up

if not then just execute

[hasty pumice]

Yeah but SD doesn't necessarily get prio, if you're on one stack and MS is up, why would you press SD before MS

Rather get mortal strike on cool down

Let's say you have cleave, MS and one SD proc up

No reason to send the SD proc immediately unless you don't have 5 overwhelm stacks

If you have 2 stacks then yeah SD deffo takes prio

Cause you don't wanna overcap on SD

You always wanna keep the CDs rolling in the ideal scenario cause we don't have spammable GCDs minus slam

[dusty gazelle]

Afaik windfury was spec specific for enhancer some years back in BfA, dragonflight, maybe even tww.
Thanks for your response.

[drowsy torrent]

Hello guys
Im doing a DPS alt to play some keys when team isnt here, are u able to do some keys are warriors or is that impossible ? Ig warrys get invited quite fast in physical Comps but im not sure there are a lot in high keys pugs, and ig itll be easier to get in keys looking at the buff tomorrow ?

[deft bluff]

Getting invited is a blessing

[dim basalt]

Depends what you define as high

In 19+ there really arent that many phys comps unfortunately and you need to get a bit lucky because there will always be a warrior with a higher rio

Below that you get invited easily

[robust cliff]

the easiest but hardest thing I have found is pug your own key if your warrior. you may or may not get bots who grief your key but at least you aint playing lfg sim for hours to get invited to a key that bricks in the 1st pull or whatever

[drowsy torrent]

Ye talking about 19/20 wont be for this week for sure but thats the plan

[crystal nexus]

a crit mortal strike w/ sweeping strikes reduces the cd of demolish by 20s right?

[dawn shale]

hello fellow warriors

[candid garden]

Warr in Ors

[bright grove]

If both hits crit, yes

[crystal nexus]

i haven't played much recently, so i only just noticed it today and it feels insane

[radiant moon]

anyone knows if the ST buff is in sims atm given that na should already have the patch?

[astral yarrow]

theres usually a banner at the top of the site that says "xx/months hotfixes are implemented" or something along those lines

sims with "latest" tomorrow should at least have them in

[ionic mica]

NA patch also doesn't go live technically until later in the day for EU

Closer to evening

[quick horizon]

For tomorrow, for 10 to 12s just for flex in overall which spec and hero talents would u guys says might come on top? Arms colossus is not the answer for sure XD

[rancid willow]

What sort of DPS do I need to be doing for +16’s? Feeling like I’m too low.

This was without hero/drums all dungeon. But I still feel like for my ilvl my dmg is too low. As you can see, I didn’t die and mechanically I was pretty solid. Lot of kicks.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/BhxfAVqCy13D8NKQ?fight=4&type=damage-done

[strong flame]

Are you guys using the TBC sharpening stones? for rogue atleast its used on MH (and oil on offhand) but was wondering if anyones done the math on how good its for warrior?

[fresh spire]

Rogues only want x haste any more Is wasted. Likely using oil to cover the 700 haste BP then using ap

[strong flame]

used on assa aswell

the weapon damage makes it about 0,8% better than oil on MH for assa

[mortal rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/finding-nemo-today-todays-the-day-excited-gif-13929260

[strong flame]

(its obviously not intended to be usable but the stat squish made the usable ilvl to be capped at 320 instead of current ilvl gear)

[dense jungle]

hi guys im new here about the buff are we now gonna play slayer in m+ ?

[fresh spire]

It's going to be viable. Are is lower but st is much better than colossus.

If its enough to push colossus down is another question.

Questions this week is more if fury just dethornes arms

Aoe is lower*

[slim zenith]

New alt in the making 3.4K dh main. Is it arms or fury the best to start off with in 0-12 keys ? And then you switch ? Or is arms all the way ?

Very broad question

[thick kelp]

pick your poison after nxt weeks tuning

[kind kernel]

Probably fury, as a dh main you may be overwhelmed by all the buttons available to you as arms.

[slim zenith]

Old hunter mage ect so buttons not so much

Scard of

[kind kernel]

I'm being silly, try what you like. I think arms is a blast in both lower and higher keys due to its burst

[slim zenith]

So arms works up to 15 or all the way to 20?

[glacial plume]

Did they nerf chrusing combo? Am I crazy or was it 3 free cleaves? I can't find any patch notes about it.

[kind kernel]

Yes its down to 2

was last patch

[glacial plume]

Ah ok, thanks for the confirmation. I wasn't sure. Sad. It was so fun. At least huge buffs tomorrow!

[kind kernel]

took forever for my musclem emory of spamming cleave to adapt lol

[slim zenith]

So first craft be wep then I recon

[glacial plume]

Yeah same. I am so bad with muscle memory I can barely swap between Fury and Arms let alone classes lol

[feral breach]

Yes, highest Initial gain for arms and fury

Alternatively, go pit 10+ with heroic weapons and pray for 2t hammer

With bonusroll

[slim zenith]

Tru i Get 4 bonus this week (ding yesterday ) so 2 this and 2 next

[feral breach]

Pit in general has some good items for arms

Not that much for fury

[slim zenith]

Will look up gear path when home

[slow saddle]

Tbh if slayer arms just has better st 2t

Id be happy

For my keys funnel strats arent used

[feral breach]

[radiant moon]

pit has lots of crit haste

i believe that terrace has mostly haste / mast

[slim zenith]

So hast mastery is bis as arms ?

[wide pebble]

Crit haste

[feral breach]

No

Crit haste, yes

[slim zenith]

Crit haste okay

[wide pebble]

But some mastery is good, but not over crit haste

[slim zenith]

And fury ?

[feral breach]

Fury is mastery/haste

[latent moss]

prolly not ngl

u can spam bonus roll pit

[feral breach]

With a bit of crit sprinkled in

[slim zenith]

So fury is like dh dev hast/mastery and then crit hast as arms okay

[latent moss]

and its not even cause 289 + 2x arcanoweave is much better than 285 crafted with hunt + arcanoweave. its barely simming better

[slim zenith]

Noted in small dmg brain

[latent moss]

it just prevents wasted crests and sparks

that u can use to fill weak gear

[wide pebble]

Id probably wait to start sending your bonus rolls until a little data comes out this week about arms vs fury

[slim zenith]

Yahe was the plan

[wide pebble]

Because it may influence your decision whether to bonus roll pit or MT

[slim zenith]

Was craft wep and get 4 set is the ide

[dim basalt]

Or you just play what you like more and send anyway?

[slim zenith]

And then se if I need to roll a second wep for fury or fish for mych trac

[dim basalt]

Because the spec will not determine whether you get invited or not

[latent moss]

legit doesnt metter

[dim basalt]

Otherwise Fury would be down bad

[latent moss]

matter

especially after reset

[wide pebble]

Of course

But it seems like he’s starting from a blank slate and may want to do something depending on the data

[latent moss]

thane fury is good st good aoe

slarms is dead

colo arms is bad st insane aoe

[slim zenith]

It’s a alt so I’d prefer 1 spec to start then work in the others as time goes

[latent moss]

its also secondary stats in 2026

[dim basalt]

Just play what you enjoy more

really

[latent moss]

ran a sim in full bis and replaced all stats with vers

and its 5% behind

[wide pebble]

I’m starting Lura prog this week and may just send slayer fury, kinda looking forward to it

[paper gulch]

How are people kicking from groups without blizzard saying "You have been removed from group"

[slim zenith]

Dident want to spark a discussion more tips 🙂

[latent moss]

not arm...

[wide pebble]

Whatever’s better. Probably still will be slarms

But kinda hoping it’s not lol

[latent moss]

....

ungodly rng btw

[wide pebble]

Yeah I’ve seen that log

[dawn shale]

where can i find talents to copy in this discord ?

[dim basalt]

#dps-faq

[dawn shale]

thank you good warrior

[olive nest]

Morbillion executers

[fair gust]

would ya play Arms or Fury for Midnight Falls?

[brisk sedge]

by the looks of wclogs arms still would be the play for lura

anyways it is arms season for me. i am tired of playing fury every season

[fair gust]

ya i mean my gear is a bit better suited for arms right now - and the "buffs" are for both arms and fury so

[brisk sedge]

arms looks superb for p3 and p4 damage

[naive steeple]

and for m+? still pick arms instead fury

?

[brisk sedge]

we ll see next week. i suggest hold onto extra rolls. maybe watch top streamers to decide. Critcake, Biz, Noxiv, Gucciwarrior etc. see the numbers and decide that way maybe

and if you are not pushing really high keys like 20s it realy doesnt matter in my opinion. play the one you like more

[pulsar frost]

I'll still play arms for keys

Exited to try slayer both specs today tho

[naive steeple]

yeaaah

exited too

[soft peak]

finally a good trinket

[rose matrix]

Is Slayer just going to prio OP over MS in all situation in aoe now?

Since we might be dropping Battlelord

[pulsar frost]

yes even with battlelord

[rose matrix]

I see

[slow saddle]

I mean we arent takin battlelors

[quiet bramble]

buttlord

[slow saddle]

Tbh idm of

Buttlord is more for col

But then imho they should move fatality

Coz it kindda belongs with it

[fresh spire]

I miss buttlord

[slow saddle]

Just buff dreadnaught

[weak rain]

buff bleed buff dreadnaught

BUFF OVERPOWERING FINISH SO IT GIVES 8 RAGE WHEN OP HITS TARGET BELOW 35%

[quiet bramble]

bleed

[weak rain]

bleed buff=execute phase buff

+colo st buff

[slow saddle]

Remove 35% part

[burnt gale]

Is there a pin or reference for the exact impact of today's tuning? For best spec for keys/raid and any rotational priority changes?

[pulsar frost]

there was once a time where OP just gave you rage on use

[ionic mica]

#updates-midnight message

raid specs wont change, maybe thane fury is better in some keys than colo arms

will be more info after its live and people can actually play

[thick sierra]

[burnt gale]

Thank you. I'm only pushing to the 3400 rating for the mount, currently Colo Arms. Largely these changes won't impact me, but if a rotational change happens Is like to know.

[pulsar frost]

theres no rotation change for col

[burnt gale]

Perfect

[slow saddle]

Tbf play slayee then

[burnt gale]

Why? Does Slayer do better in keys at the 15-16 range?

[pulsar frost]

its more friendly and frogviing on the pug tanks

COL does more overall damage but ST stucks without funnel

[strange comet]

It's gonna have more prio/boss damage. Suffers less in small pulls

[pulsar frost]

col has the better prio damage but worse Boss damage without funnel

[slow saddle]

Also tommorow mby slayers funnel improves?

[strange comet]

^ that.

[slow saddle]

Imean prio

[pulsar frost]

idk cleave just also hits like a truck

[slow saddle]

Big executes

[burnt gale]

I'll try it out on my bonus roll keys in Pit of Saron

[slow saddle]

Same🤣🤣

[split idol]

does anyone know the timer for SR on last boss in seat?

[granite night]

any addon showing melee max range ?

like a crosshair or something

[deft bluff]

Gang, I have my crafted weapon and embelished wrists. Am i better off with a myth weapon + wrist/cloak, or do i get wrist and cloak with embelish and keep the crafted weapon?

I am pretty clueless on the crafting thing

[pulsar frost]

first one

[ionic mica]

its every time the boss gets to 4 stacks of its buff, biz shows it in a seat he did a week or so ago

tell your tank you're gonna do it though, keys tanks arent used to losing aggro on a boss

usually just do the reflects that come up in the spinning beams so the boss cant melee you

[vale warren]

I personally swapped to mythic 2 ton hammer and crafted wrist and cloak

But I’d advise simming your gear

[spice field]

i feel like i wasted sparks by crafting a weapon and also i have used every bonus loot on m+ dungeons, i don't have both raid bis trinkets not even the hc ones, i have mythic solarflare + algethar puzzle hc

my single target dmg sim is 80k

could it be reasonable to leveling a fresh warrior

or go on like this? i am 276 btw

[sacred zodiac]

if you want to sit there and grind insane amounts of time you can probably end up with a stronger character than you currently have if you did that

realistically though everyone else also has "wasted" 4 sparks on a weapon craft cause it was optimal early season

although you should certainly be higher than 276 im pretty sure you can hit ~282 from just using every crest you can gain right now

[spice field]

my focus was always getting myth items/tier sets and upgrade it later to prio str like shoulder,head,chest crafting a weapon as you said it was optimal to do

but now i have shittiest trinkets ever

[fair gust]

how much crests have you left?

[spice field]

seasonal?

250

[fair gust]

huh, 250 myth crests? And your 276? what items are blow 276?

[sacred zodiac]

ye something doesnt line up

[pulsar frost]

everyone that started playing the first 2 weeks wasted 4 sparks if you think about it, bonus rolls didnt come till sometime in april

[fair gust]

I wouldnt really say "wasted" Sparks - only if u got lucky with 1st Vault or Myth Boss Early - we dont really need that much crafted pieces - and we certainly didnt waste crests there aswell. And we have more than enough sparks right now no? With Bonus Rolls atm its even less optimal to craft

[untold pewter]

If you crafted a weapon NOW you probably did waste sparks
If you crafted with your first 2 sparks it's never really a waste, and unless you're in a HOF guild it won't matter one way or another in the long run

[fair gust]

did u waste myth crests? For Example Upgrading fresh Myth pieces from 272 to 276 and higher?

[cyan stirrup]

My Arms ST dmg is bad, has anyone tried dropping 1x BattleBorne, 2x Bloodborne, 1x Dreadnaught and moved them over to Deep Wounds, Massacre, Critical Thinking, and Fatality. I'm thinking this would give us a very strong Execute phase for ST damage.

or would we lose too much AOE dmg?

[worn knoll]

is this colo or slayer arms? Are you talking about a single target boss fight or a M+ key run?

[cyan stirrup]

M+ Thane seems great in AOE. ST damage boss fights in a M+ key is poor

Just looking to keep or slightly reduce the AOE and gain some ST.

[balmy kindle]

the issue with execute is you have no rage

[worn knoll]

wat? Thane is a fury spec, you're asking an Arms question. Are you playing Colossus or Slayer arms for these keys?

[cyan stirrup]

I'm dumb. I meant col

[worn knoll]

Try switching to the slayer M+ spec if you want to reduce aoe and gain ST a bit

though personally I prefer colo across the board, if you get a tank who pulls trash into boss so you can funnel you won't feel the ST weakness that much

I wouldn't advise speccing into execute as colossus tho, slayer gets a lot more mileage out of the same talents and colossus starts running into rage sustain issues if you try spamming execute in ST like kyo said

[olive nest]

Today’s the day

We are LARGE

[dim basalt]

cope

[flat willow]

I'm gonna play slayer all week, probably go back to col next week

just have a single week of having single target

[plucky bramble]

i want to try slayer in keys too

[shy dew]

i wish back old reap the storm

was too more consistent

[dim basalt]

Cant have nice things here

[slow saddle]

Wrongnanswer

[quiet bramble]

blizz loves war(lock)

[slow saddle]

I want more sd procs!!

[warped owl]

The inconsistency makes sudden death execut give bigger dopamine (if they proc)

[deft bluff]

do we take haste or crit in AA

[worn knoll]

I'd rather they just rework the Reap the Storm talent so that it's no longer a proc and instead upgrades whirlwind to be an actual worthwhile button to press in AoE for slayer. Let colo be focused around cleave + demo and slayer can be focused around whirlwind + bladestorm spin 2 win

I just hate that whirlwind is literally a dead button in 99% of situations

[flat willow]

I really don't care about whirlwind

I just want more sudden death procs

[warped owl]

Would make more sense to have a full spinny hero talent and a frontal hero talent. Bit of variety

[quiet bramble]

sudden nut

[warped owl]

Get DF whirlwind back

[flat willow]

and removing 6 fucking aoe talents, so that we can swap from ST build to aoe by switching 1 or 2 talent

like every other dps in the game

and not 8

[worn knoll]

my thoughts exactly. as it is now if you're in a ST fight with add spawns you don't press WW because it's effectively a wasted GCD, and in any fight where you DO want to be AoEing those adds any harder than that, you just spec into cleave lol. I just want whirlwind to have a valid use-case in the gameplay loop for arms, if not just delete it and make cleave baseline idk

[ionic mica]

raiding early on as fury/enhance was so nice, 2 talents swaps between full aoe and ST

enhance has a different issue of just no talents full stop, there are barely any talents you dont take

[spice field]

yeah mate, i make both mythic tiers 289 chest and shoulder, then i upgrade trinket, crafted 285 wrist, back and two hand weapon

[worn knoll]

cleave and powerful momentum talents should both just be baseline imho.

[slow saddle]

Powerfull. Momentum makes sense imho as a talent

Cleave does not

Either we ww or we cleave imho

[olive nest]

Should be cleave and not have WW as a option, that is for fury only

That makes the most thematic sense imo as well

[spice field]

hey, let me share my armory and check it out if you can

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/twisting-nether/arkothanir/

[slow saddle]

Exactly

[spice field]

i've started 2 week late

[fair gust]

ah i more so meant - if u wasted Crests - since if u upgrade heroic fully u get to 276 - standard myth pieces start on 272 - if u upgrade them right away and dont use heroic crests on a heroic piece to 276 - you waste 20 myth crests on each piece. And 276 is like every piece on heroic max upgraded - that should be easily done now.

[spice field]

oh i understand now

i don't think 276 item level is end game also i don't have bis trinkets/weapon anyways, do you think making a fresh char would be reasonable?

but even then

should i craft 285 weapon OR use bonus rolls to get mythic pit of saron weapon what is our priority

[rancid willow]

Pretty sure Mythic Garfrost Mace is BIS...at least what I just heard in Biz's AA video

[charred brook]

Isn't mythic luura 2h bis

[fair gust]

Well - no i dont think so - maybe it could be worth - but it would mean u have to play alot to even catch up. So no.
How many Crests Heroic and Myth Crests do you currently have? And are u capped or can you farm more? - If so - Farm crests and upgrade all of your heroic pieces to 276 - that should be easily be done.

[spice field]

it is but i am not doing mythic progress, just killing 2 mythic bosses maybe it drops from vault

i mean i am asking in a fresh char what is the optimal way to spend bonus rolls

[rancid willow]

https://youtu.be/VDFiwGaP8lw?si=rk-5XnVmfuHo8yQ3&t=301

"Pit of Sauron has the best weapon in the game"

[fair gust]

I doubt you will Kill Luura Myth anytime soon 😄 So yes Use Bonus Rolls on Pit of Saron - its a good dungeon for Bonus roll - Second BiS Weapong - a good Ring - Helmet and such is also quite nice

[rancid willow]

Anyway yeah maybe 1% of the playerbase will kill Mythic L'ura by the end of s1 right?

[stable fiber]

l'ura ring and weapon might not even be bis

but might be nice to pick up

[spice field]

not %1 because mythic raids are way easy than before, but yeah very low population

[rancid willow]

I know my ass will never see it 😄

until next expansion

[fair gust]

The Difference Between Luura Weapon and Pit Weapon isnt big at all - so normaly you could say Pit Weapon is a very safe bet yes

[dim basalt]

As if raids havent always been easy at the end of a season

[rancid willow]

I got lucky AF. First bonus roll got the 2H

[fair gust]

But Anduril you should focus on maxxing up all your crests - upgrade Heroic Gear to Max and then start with upgrading your myth pieces.

[rancid willow]

next run, got cloak LOL

[spice field]

yeah thanks man i forgot that +20 waste crest

[fair gust]

I used Bonus Rolls on Pit Aswell - got Cloak and helmet lel.
But i also have the Myth Weapon from Vanguard

[spice field]

but i am still thinking in one week can i reach this item level with great items

bonus roll is a chance anyways

like it's not %100 to spend it

you can get a back from it

😄

[fair gust]

I mean - yes - since u could easily fill all your spots with heroic Gear - Upgrade everything to 276 - that means you are already 276 or more like 278 since crafted pieces - And with Bonus Rolls you could get 1-2 possible Myth Upgrades wich you could easily upgrade instantly to 289 - so getting char ready to 280+ is actually very easy

I Had a Hunter ready at 280 in a week aswell

And that was before Bonus rolls lol

[spice field]

like instead of getting bis two trinkets from raids (hc tier with bonus rolls) spending THAT bonus rolls 6 times and getting 6 mythic items is feels more valuable

[olive nest]

Alright somebody use willpower to amass a 279 helmet into my one raid vault slot so I can save 20 crests on it

[spice field]

ffs man why all of bis trinkets have to be in raids it's not even easy to find a group

if you pug

[dim basalt]

Dungeon trinkets are usually good enough

[sacred zodiac]

willing

[sacred zodiac]

from the first 2 bosses ye that are piss easy

[spice field]

@fair gust sorry if i bored you bro 😄

[olive nest]

My man

[spice field]

i just can't accept my foolish crest lost, bad management

literally playing like more than 10 years and still doing these stupid mistakes

xDD

[fair gust]

Haha all good - happened alot of people with the crests i think - even upgrading heroic pieces early which were below 266 was a waste - still people have done it

Me personally i would NOT use Bonus Rolls on Heroic Raid

Especially if u dont Myth Raid and dont Push to Title m+

[balmy kindle]

waist with slot or p box

[olive nest]

Die pbox die

[fair gust]

Fuck Puzzlebox

[balmy kindle]

tkaing the waist i think , 3rd p box in vault

[spice field]

i feel like these trinkets are huge upgrades

every warrior i see has those

[olive nest]

I took puzzle box week 1.. what a mistake..

[fair gust]

Sim it - i will tell you the sim will tell you otherwise - The Trinket u get from the Void Region on 263 is still one of the best Ones

I think i gained like 1,2k Dps switching from that to Mythic Alnseer trinket

And thats Champion track vs Myth track

[plucky bramble]

can someone help me a bit, if i pick pit ring from chest can it come after on bonus roll or it goes out of the pull?

i had a warlock weapon and got the same one from bonus roll

[pulsar frost]

bonus rolls only remove themselves

[fair gust]

Bonus Roll has nothing to do with the normal loot you get

[plucky bramble]

i see, ty

[pulsar frost]

hm

[stable fiber]

kill mythic l'ura just to get 3 fallen king pieces in my vault 🥀

feels good

[rancid willow]

Mythic track tier legs. ❤️

[reef glade]

alt juice finally

[rancid willow]

^ grats

[reef glade]

just my lock missing that now

[stable fiber]

i sure hope my dh doesnt just take tokens from my vault like my 3 other characters!

[hushed pine]

GAZE OF THE ALNU SUUR

[rose stratus]

you love to see it

[slow saddle]

Or coin for pits?

[untold pewter]

Coin for pit for me so I get the last 3 options

[pulsar frost]

is it time i try slayer with talent changes

[untold pewter]

[slow saddle]

Exactly

[red parrot]

does anything change with the slayer raid build?

[slow saddle]

Np

[untold pewter]

I'll spend 2 before picking tho ofc

Just need ring and wep

[slow saddle]

I need weap + belt + ring... but cloak still awaits

[untold pewter]

I have neck left there but I don't need it

Surely I won't get it in the last 2/3 rolls

Surely

[slow saddle]

I rolled neck

[pulsar frost]

surely i can rng helm on my first roll today

and not get cloak

and surely i can get socket on belt

[slow saddle]

Id say neck from pit id bis

Until u get midnigt ring

[pulsar frost]

ima try massacre and critical thinmking in slayer aoe build today

[slow saddle]

Ofc

Remove bleed and battlelord

I would like powerfull momentum

[random trout]

what we thinking my arms brothas? take tokens?

tbh still need belt/neck mythic track from pit

[solar hemlock]

Taking tokens is probably right for like 90% of vaults

[soft venture]

Any talent pages for slayer m+ I can copy from after changes?

[random trout]

https://tenor.com/view/you-got-a-point-usher-songland-i-see-what-youre-saying-i-see-what-you-did-there-gif-15897707422360759800

[latent moss]

idk if this is better but mr slayer savior himself sent it

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898720803586048/1500738583886299217/image.png?ex=69fad8b8&is=69f98738&hm=a853f905cfa3ddecec9a87f7d6273df69058499d7ffb051fb84d585a8766ba5d&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

[soft venture]

oooh we doing the old 2x execute build??

[latent moss]

not sure if its better than dropping both ct and massacre for 2x bb and blord

prolly is

[random trout]

this for M+?

[latent moss]

yes

[surreal spade]

this is the slayer build for now?

[latent moss]

ye pre these buffs

[surreal spade]

i wil ltry a nexus 16 with these

lets see

[latent moss]

this was go to for slayer until these buffs so idk

im eu not live for me

[surreal spade]

i get it on the bizz discord

hi posted yesterday

[latent moss]

ye its the go to slayer build

the standard build

he is eu too

i wouldnt be surprised if the exe heavy build was better

u prolly lose some insignificant amount of aoe

[sacred raft]

Ok so try the one you posted above without Battlelord and Bloodborne with live changes?

[midnight root]

I thought you would take massacre now

battlelord and bloodbourne for crit and massacre

Gonna test later tho

[slow saddle]

Id prob 1/2 thinkin and get powerfull

In mc an such dungeond

Blood surge duckin needs to be forced talent pick

[soft venture]

yeah pretty sure in theorycraft stuff it is trade some bleed stuff for execute talents

and the mortal strike reset one

[surreal spade]

anyone can share a good slayer build to try ?

after the reset*

[pulsar frost]

ok ive done a key, slayer feels not too bad, tho the random pug tank was garbo and pulled weirdly

i need a decent tank puller tho to fully test

[sacred raft]

what key was it?

[pulsar frost]

pit 11

[slow saddle]

St dmg?

[pulsar frost]

there was like no pits 12s or even 10s when i qued

on reset

[slow saddle]

Vs col

[pulsar frost]

i mean its slayer vs COl, it was a lot better, tho i didnt have good uptime and such since mech and tank being not good

[elder path]

is Col actually good on M Chim or are top logs just people "padding" on ad phases

[pulsar frost]

eethical padding

adds need to die

[vivid fox]

You need to have a raid that's slamming boss dam and not really hitting them for it to work

[ashen trout]

we take gloves prob right?

i have M track gaze and H track vor trinket atm

[minor gust]

I did some sim comparisons between the two it's like 1% aoe loss for 2-3 ST

[elder path]

yea i feel like if i bring col into guild reclear tn im just trolling

[olive nest]

The logs are organized sales so they get to be the add damager that’s how they parse

[warm violet]

hey do we always use demolish with a smash or do we press it on cd even if sometimes its not align with Csmash

[sacred raft]

Adds die too fast anyways

[elder path]

yea im aware

wanted to see if my inclinations were wrong tho

[olive nest]

In a reclear with everyone trying to parse at the same time most get fucked and one ore two get the log

It is what it is

[ashen trout]

whats the new slayer talents gamers? just got home

[signal heron]

any change on talents?

[fervent cedar]

Dont think talents are changing

[wooden lava]

is the 298 upgrade this week or next?

[signal heron]

next I believe

[ashen trout]

gloves rolled avoidance too pog

[sacred raft]

I'm assuming everyone is slapping that 298 on weapon first, right?

[fervent cedar]

Yeah fs

[olive nest]

You can do all 3 items in the same week

Once the system is open you just have to farm

[echo tendon]

From how they described things it sounds like you should be able to farm enough for all the upgrades in a week

[sacred raft]

oh that's cool thought it was timegated as in upgrade 1 item per x amount of weeks

[minor gust]

It still requires some key testing but going to be trying this out today

[fervent cedar]

W actually

[ashen trout]

sweet ty gamer

[fervent cedar]

How do you farm

Just do normal stuff im assuming?

[fervent cedar]

This looks a bit spicy

[olive nest]

The ascendant void cores drop from end game content

So basically raid bosses, dungeon chests, delve chests, etc

[echo tendon]

Seems like it's basically going to be the same as getting catalyst charges

[olive nest]

Yes

[fervent cedar]

Sweet

[olive nest]

Afaik

[fervent cedar]

Should be ezpz

[warm violet]

Hey !
Do we use demolish on CD like CS or do we pair it with CS like ravager and avatar

[unborn oxide]

Is the 298 upgrade a one use per week per char?

[wind hatch]

use it on cd if cs cooldown is > 10 seconds

[warm violet]

thx 🙂

[cedar cairn]

For slayer do i ever send BS w/ out CS?

[minor gust]

No

[pulsar frost]

L

got the cloak, now i have to come back just for 1 roll on the helm smh

[sacred raft]

Got that last week too

[pulsar frost]

i had 3 rolls left, got the belt no socket tho, but i needed and wanted the helm

shitty ass cloak

[cedar cairn]

Thanks king

[obsidian echo]

How we feeling Arms vs Fury will be performing in M+ now?

[minor gust]

Tbd

Both good

[primal spear]

did the buffs go through? why does my tooltip dmg look the same

[stone marsh]

Slayer viable in keys after buff?

Or still nah

[fringe leaf]

speculation is slayer for AA and SR rest colo

[dim basalt]

High keys prob still colo for SR

Cuz you can add funnel to first two bosses

[cedar cairn]

what if funnel isnt in play?

[stone marsh]

Due to boss damage?

[uncut hound]

are the M+ talents changing?

[civic dagger]

does it matter for bonus rolls if i use them in higher than +10?

[ember axle]

anyone figure out a fix for ability sound effects bug? been 3 weeks now. I keep submitting bug reports

[hybrid needle]

DKs give me crippling depression

[minor gust]

Bugs like that don't expect to be fixed

[fervent cedar]

No

[rapid bronze]

bois how are we simming for dungeons these days?

[wicked aurora]

hugggggeeeeeee

[hybrid needle]

Everyone does it different. I do ST and 5target 1min

[rapid bronze]

merci

I've been doing 8 targets for 1 min but not sure if it makes sense

[rose matrix]

Did our Slayer build change at all for m+

[fallen dome]

What key/lvl and was that colo or slayer?

[hybrid needle]

18 MC colossus

[dim basalt]

178 is pretty low for MC

Did you have no funnel?

[fallen dome]

Gotcha. Thanks

[hybrid needle]

for second boss? no

[quiet bramble]

funnel deez

[dim basalt]

Oh cadimonk is a friend of mine

Time to flame him for not adding funnel

[hybrid needle]

he did

but the ret ccd them

[dim basalt]

Average ret brain

[latent moss]

wake auto stuns them unlucky

he would have to wake the iar

air*

[fringe leaf]

yeah slayer better for boss damage

[hybrid needle]

do mericans have the slayer buff already

[dim basalt]

Dont think unh should outdps arms ever in that dungeon tho

MC is way too perfect for us

[minor gust]

Yes

[hybrid needle]

how does it feel

[minor gust]

Idk haven't logged on yet. About too. It's only noon right now

[sacred raft]

sadly, no guns are added to the slayer buffs

[minor gust]

Survival for the real gun

[rugged hill]

What’s the play, early gamers? Fury or arms?

Post patch

[ebon tendon]

its like asking do i want to be worst or second worst

[dim basalt]

Whatever you enjoy more cuz it literally doesnt matter

[ebon tendon]

play what u want otherwise go dh :3

[static garden]

raidbots says my bis gloves are the mythic version of the seat of triumvirate gloves, however I think BiS lists say you should get the windrunner spire gloves instead, anyone know which one is actually better?

[dim basalt]

Doesnt matter because you will never have the full bis list equipped

[hybrid needle]

Seat sims better ST, Spire sims better MT

[static garden]

ah I see, thank you

[dim basalt]

remove bis lists

[rose matrix]

Seat gloves are better

[minor gust]

Can't wowhead requires them for the casuals

[dim basalt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933386399279878154/991343673419763753/caption.gif

[reef prairie]

up big thank you weekly reset

[muted notch]

How does arms compare to fury in M+?

[rose matrix]

It's better

[reef prairie]

it strong

[minor gust]

Hopefully that or gaze in my vault

[reef prairie]

both good rn

[minor gust]

[dim basalt]

I bonusrolled that 2h with speed

vroom vroom

[minor gust]

Nice bis tert stat

[dim basalt]

Still feel like a wheelchair though

[minor gust]

You got speed shoulder enchant?

[dim basalt]

I think so

[minor gust]

That enchant alone is like 6% movespeed

[dim basalt]

Whats the alternative?

avoidance?

[minor gust]

Leech avoidance

[dim basalt]

mhh I think I got the avoidance one then

[minor gust]

But those are so heavily nerfed it's a who cares

Melee wants move speed

To play the game

[reef prairie]

yea i think the speed is worth on that enchant

its got so much

[dim basalt]

oh ok

[obsidian acorn]

What build are people playing in m+ after changes today? and did the buffs go in?

[left shard]

i hate u

[fervent cedar]

Basically back to what we were doing before
Slayer in AA and SR, colo in everything else

[stoic oriole]

Just did a AA 14 2ct and massacre feels good to press execute so much 125k overall, boss damage was really good

[obsidian acorn]

Thanks

not sure I have the right builds but my slayer sim is 5% ahead in st but behind 20% in mt

[minor gust]

holy gg

[umbral wagon]

I mean after today's buffs I would say its safe to play either in all keys. It really depends on how ur tank pulls more than anything

[minor gust]

buffs didnt go through

they forgor us

[umbral wagon]

did they not?

[hybrid needle]

huh?

[olive nest]

Lmfao

[minor gust]

my rts

[umbral wagon]

ik the tooltop was borked

but is it not actually in?

[shy dew]

wait did they forgot to buff us

[minor gust]

EU rts

[minor gust]

was hitting dummies too RTS isnt doing more dmg than it was doing last night

[umbral wagon]

hmmm

[obsidian acorn]

Brewmaster monk tooltips has not changed

is the patch not applied at all?

[quiet bramble]

Blizz

[minor gust]

someone at blizz forgot to press a button

when servers went live

[olive nest]

Eu gets bigger talent numbers and then brags about winning race at the same time

Imagine

[rancid willow]

They didn’t prompt Claude to update the tooltip

[sudden owl]

🙂

[thin quail]

does pre using sweeping strikes work in raid encounters?

[minor gust]

yes

[wicked aurora]

125k overall seems pretty low tbh, I was getting close to 150k overall in slayer before patch

[minor gust]

overall has like 10 different things that go into it being different every dungeon besides your gameplay

I wouldnt think much about it

[umbral wagon]

the big man is typing in the updates channel, im ready to be disappointed with him telling us the buffs got reverted last second lmao

[muted notch]

having issues with CDs, I feel like they are all over the place. Am I doing anything wrong or is it normal that avatar and CS become misaligned

[minor gust]

hold ava for CS

it can be normal in keys

raid shouldnt really misalign

[muted notch]

ravager, should that be held for anything?

[umbral wagon]

when you can spam cleave

[graceful sun]

CS+Cleave

[frigid jewel]

Blizzard realized the human intern accidentally nerfed devourer, so they're fixing that before they drop ours

[rancid willow]

You’re being very optimistic that they still use humans

[quiet bramble]

Blizz loves war(lock)

[ashen trout]

did other class hotfixes not go thru or just warr? lol

[rancid willow]

$20 says they’re deep into using AI

[wicked aurora]

Well that explains why his numbers seemed low

[minor gust]

hold ravager for CS just like ava

[wicked aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/smurfs-dance-party-smurf-dance-smurf-gif-22270931

Blizz intern rn

[rancid willow]

And are too afraid to reveal that out of fear of the backlash

[limber valve]

did other hotfixes go out?

[quiet bramble]

Time to close the discord

[frigid jewel]

These tunings actually make some sense so the stench of ai is less present

[muted notch]

tyty

[slow saddle]

Wtf

[rancid willow]

Rofl

Hahhahahah I’m dead

Who called it??

[minor gust]

Folg

[slow saddle]

Only warriors didnt get? Or just generallynall

[minor gust]

I wanted to test the new slayer build while im off today

fuck you blizz

[slow saddle]

Hopefully beta na

[frigid jewel]

Warrior dev dared to ask for a 5 minute bathroom break during his 14 hour surprise shift, buff privileges revoked

[slow saddle]

Eu tommorow

[pulsar frost]

would explain my numbers in the 2 dungeons ive done

[slow saddle]

Exe not great?🤣

[last salmon]

i was about to post asking if people felt different, cause i was doing same damage as yesterday lol

[slow saddle]

🤣

[pulsar frost]

OP wasnt that great either

or was reap

[slow saddle]

U jusy got 10% worse over night

[umbral wagon]

time to cope they get hotfixed before tonight lmao

[wicked aurora]

It's ok, when they said it was a hotfix they meant it was going to be hotfixed in at 9pm tonight not at patch time 🙂

[last salmon]

😂

[slow saddle]

No warrior change is for 12.07

[wicked aurora]

oh truuuuu

[frigid jewel]

Warrior dev has been placed back in the punishment cage for insubordination

[surreal spade]

CS ?

[weak rain]

I mean understandable, warrior is already op af, they had to cancel buffs

[slow saddle]

Wtf is this totallu ineptitude???

[wicked aurora]

colossus smash....

[vast helm]

what a company Blizzard

[slow saddle]

Like what kindda ppl have they got

Microsoft

[frigid jewel]

Small indie company, give them a break, im sure they forgot to pay the AI subscription bill

[slow saddle]

More like nanosoft

[tawdry sphinx]

Small indie companies. they'll get it one day.

[slow saddle]

Tbf i blamw trump

Closed hormuz

[frigid jewel]

They're nerfing our warriors

[slow saddle]

Now not even patches coomin through

[weak rain]

Stop thinking that they made a mistake, jsut think that they canceled the buff(which is mroe probably knowing how this season was for warriors)

more probable*

[tawdry sphinx]

I demand an extra 5% buff for this clear SLAP IN THE FACE

[frigid jewel]

"Its honestly their own fault for not rerolling Devourer, yeah... the beautiful devourer spec. Love those guys. They do BIG damage, yes they do. All thanks to me."

[fervent cedar]

Name checks out carry on

[umbral wagon]

5% aura buff or riot

[frigid jewel]

"If the warriors want their buffs, then they're gonna have to give up their battle shout, what can I say? It's about time. They've had it too good for too long."

[quiet bramble]

time to pull the closing discord trick

[naive steeple]

guys

can i use same embelishment in two diferents gear? like cape and bracer with arcanoweaver ]

[vernal agate]

NOTHIN LIKE BLIZZ NOT ADDIN HOTFIXES GJ 10/10 GAME

[weak rain]

it got canceled

[vast helm]

what a crime Blizzard

[wind hatch]

W Blizzard?

this happen to any other class or just us?

[balmy basalt]

they are just adding 20% bonus dmg to wrecking throw then hotfixes coming fs dont worry guys /s

[umbral wagon]

yes

[tepid citrus]

but increased cooldown time to 2 min

[vast helm]

Blizzard is hotfixing that warrior players are too much's issue.

[umbral wagon]

apparently they were found

[minor gust]

saved xD

[balmy basalt]

wrecking throw now creates an unholy dk for you when you break an absorb shield

[ashen trout]

wait so are they in now or?

[candid pecan]

Heroic Might trackable with BCDM?

[quiet bramble]

guys, i'm omega malding

[wind hatch]

we are so back

[tepid citrus]

False Alarm! We are back to semi slamming again

[gentle gyro]

Can't wait to do 2% more damage as slayer tomorrow

hype

[surreal spade]

male orc still with sound bugged? lol

[minor gust]

wasnt a false alarm it was a oh shit moment for blizz xD

[smoky jungle]

Better a false alarm instead of whipping out the pitchforks

[tepid citrus]

Me on last boss, Magisters Terrace full Colo build.

[willow lance]

wasnt a false alarm

they literally just got applied or tooltips just updated

ground current now does 4666 (looking at prot) when just 30 mins ago it was like 3200

[wintry dome]

AI forgot to turn the nob into on position

[tepid citrus]

Just needed to get to execute window to apply the buffs. Slight delay

[weak rain]

Oh its boring, would've been funnier if they canceled it last second for more "investigation" and "data"

[rain cipher]

more buffs plz .. more buffs

[vale warren]

We have to make a slow climb with buffs so people don’t insta complain about all our damage

Anyone get nice vault loot today?

[ashen trout]

what i got today pog

[stoic oriole]

Nice

[ionic reef]

so is it just the tool tips or are the buffs not live

[minor gust]

buffs are live now

[wicked aurora]

no changes in builds yeah?

[ionic reef]

so the tool tips are just fucked

[minor gust]

tool tips are updated for me

[vast helm]

we need Neo

to fix everything

[wicked aurora]

So like what's the actual proper execute/OP usage in execute range? I swear the guide used to say OP under 75 rage or something but now it's just OP>Exe

[robust cliff]

so whats slayer like

we cooking?

[minor gust]

alright its time slayer in 17 WS

[thick kelp]

Logg

[stoic oriole]

Log pls

[minor gust]

[ashen trout]

we thinking fury or arms for alleria after changes twins?

[reef glade]

is raidbots not updated yet for hotfix still only hittin 96k...

arms still as good as it has been, fury got a little closer but up to you really

theres no significant "execute" phase

just some small 2target in p3 arms likes

but can kill the boss as either pretty reasonably probably

[ashen trout]

kk, we're gonna prob be trying it out first time tonight and wanted to be whatever is optimal, i feel like ive seen more arms kills but realistically im a wet noodle on that fight either spec sadge

[wicked aurora]

doesn't seem like it

I'm simming the same I did on Sunday

[bleak arrow]

Smh my head. TC L.

[spice field]

american friends enlight us

how is arms doing after buffs

[wicked aurora]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dGPfbcrKaJqnBKcaLQzUXV

yeah with the manual advanced sim thing with changes I was way higher

[craggy steeple]

are the wowhead talents for slayer still good after all the changes or do i need to be looking elsewhere for them

for m+ specifically

[frigid jewel]

Warrior dev has been let back out of the punishment cave for good behavior

(The AI subscription payment didnt go through again)

[umbral linden]

i just love class' resource generating, when even sims use belf active for RAGE

[stoic oriole]

They boys are testing the tek rn

[dry canopy]

Are teh buffs live? i was talking to Deepps and he was saying they werent live?

[wintry dome]

claude servers were down

[whole fable]

On Vanguard M as Colossus Arms, do we just send 0 stack Demolish asap or wait until few stacks/max stacks?

[wicked aurora]

I'd rather actually have to play around my resource than it being meaningless

just wish they'd give us swing timers

[olive nest]

Yes but we should be able to “play around it” right now you can’t

You play perfectly and rage starve

That’s the bad part

[craggy steeple]

i mean theres a difference between playing around resources and becoming near useless if u dont have good rng

[umbral linden]

unfortunately we are at the leftmost point on the "play around-dont care" resource axis, id like some form of compromise

[craggy steeple]

if we had actually rage generators other than like auto attacks and a bleed talent then there would actually be good skill expression in rage usage

[olive nest]

Rage needs to matter enough so we can’t hurdur execute spam until boss hit 0

But what we have now is bad

[wicked aurora]

Idk man I genuinely miss SL where you could just be so bad at rage management by overspamming that you actually had to think about pressing MS on CD

That's basically not a thing at all rn

except for execute being rage starved

[craggy steeple]

they should give us back condemn

🙂

[olive nest]

I like ms on cd though since it’s our heavy hitter

[reef glade]

think sending 1 mortal strike for like 2-4 stacks is good so bosses get some extra vuln on them during all your cds and stuff

[olive nest]

But it’s a matter of preference I get it

[reef glade]

but prolly shouldnt hold till 10 cuz you just get it back so fast

[wicked aurora]

you did MS on CD in SL

[reef glade]

idk the actual math on that tho

[olive nest]

Right,

[wicked aurora]

unless you spent too much rage which was your fault

[reef glade]

cuz when i do it i just like walk in there hit em with a ms slam the demo and just cleave/ms away and i get the demo back like literally 10 seconds later and send a 10 stacker off while cs is still up

[wicked aurora]

Like we basically don't think about rage at all until execute since like DF

[olive nest]

The dreaded wait for resource line

[radiant moon]

hmm sim barely went up after changes lol

[wicked aurora]

sim doesn't seem to be updated

[radiant moon]

good

i got lil hear attack

[weak rain]

belf bis again LOL

[radiant moon]

does it actally give rage?

[wicked aurora]

ye

always has since belf could go warrior

[grand pivot]

if not dworf u troll

[weak rain]

Use mana torrent or w/e this is to get angrier

seems legit

[dreamy moss]

do you guys reckon slayer will somewhat close the gap with colossus in AoE tomorrow or will colossus remain king?

[wicked aurora]

colo still gonna be uncontested aoe king

[umbral linden]

nelf gang

[weak rain]

velf gang

[radiant moon]

recalibrator gang

[wicked aurora]

imagine if they just like....got rid of racials or made them a seperate pickable spell not attached to race

[umbral linden]

it is funnel matter, if you pug in bad dungs - slayer will more or less compensate aoe with better st

[weak rain]

thats boring

[wicked aurora]

how is that boring?

lol

[umbral linden]

if you got funnel - colo is 1

[thorn stream]

A zandalari troll to be precise

[radiant moon]

big if in pugs

[wicked aurora]

if you're picking a race for the racial I don't see how that makes the race interesting, it just means you value a power aspect more than anything

[olive nest]

+1

[ionic mica]

The true RPG would be to let us use any racial

[weak rain]

im satisfied with what racials do and aesthetics of velves so

[radiant moon]

imagine they gave us rage

btw just a wild thought could it be that due to being so rage starved in exe we might not be able to use exe buffs to their full extent?

[craggy steeple]

blood fury racial should give us rage because fury is awarrior spec

[wicked aurora]

ok then you wouldn't need to change your choice???

[weak rain]

yes

[stoic oriole]

I like taurens cuz horns

🐮

[thorn stream]

I like zandalari cuz troll

[wicked aurora]

Yeah so how is giving people more choice bad?

[thorn stream]

And upright

[weak rain]

yes

[cedar cairn]

Would 4th crafted piece be dumb for double arcanoweave now that I got 2h from Pit?

[wicked aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-i-see-think-thinking-pondering-gif-4994872

[reef glade]

presumably your 3rd crafted piece wouldve been a 2nd arcano

[spice field]

what is the weekly quest btw?

[reef glade]

but yeah having 2 arcano is good

[sacred raft]

not at all, that's what I did

[weak rain]

It's not is thats bad, it kinda..sigh.. just kills something in wow I guess? But again, they got rid of horde/alliance thing etc

[reef glade]

so make wherever makes the most sense

[weak rain]

so

[cedar cairn]

I crafted ring because I was having shit luck with drops and crashed out

[reef glade]

real