arms

[minor gust]

ID stacks is gained from using SD you just hit a dummy before key start with 3 SDs

the buff lasts a minute so its easy to carry into the first pull on most dungeons

[stone beacon]

every time i think about how bad arms warrior single target is i just think to myself, i could be worse i could be a ret main rn

[pulsar frost]

Hm prestacking with dummies

[stable fiber]

dumb

is it really just execute spam

[minor gust]

[stable fiber]

that isnt real right...

[minor gust]

this is slayer M+

slayer raid wont change

[stable fiber]

oh

so

sd

ic

[minor gust]

MS with MP talented still owns

without MP its prio goes down

[thick kelp]

actions.slayer_execute+=/mortal_strike,if=buff.executioners_precision.stack=2&(talent.martial_prowess|!talent.martial_prowess&debuff.colossus_smash.up)|debuff.colossus_smash.up&talent.battlelord

[minor gust]

thats a long line

xD

[soft sigil]

I labbed this build a bit in high-ish keys before the deep wounds fix, definitely less AOE but the ST felt quite strong. Excited to try it again on tuesday

[rose matrix]

Feels like all M+ rp is just long enough to lose Colossal Might stacks

[bright ginkgo]

Crawth is one rp that makes my fingers tingle

Always just a second too long

[marsh forge]

can u pop down a turnip or something while it rps lmao

[clever crag]

Lmfaooo

Cant use anything in m+

[thick kelp]

Run around to lf a critter

[keen siren]

guys slayer is back

every1 play slayer on tuesday

[rose matrix]

Sadly it's not back for M+

[viral fiber]

Boys arms vs fury which better after reset

[teal pollen]

Hey guys, what embellishment should I be getting? Guide says Devouring branding, most warriors using arcanoweave bolt

thanks

[hybrid needle]

Thats an forever to be found out question

[hybrid needle]

What kinda guide are you looking at? Cause devouring Branding is your choice for pvp

[viral fiber]

Just damage wise for pushing 20s

[teal pollen]

Was looking on Method, might be in PVP section, my bad thank you

[viral fiber]

I know fury getting same buff + 5% on all damage

Dont care about playstyle I can adjust just need the best numbers on meter

[cunning burrow]

hello friends, there are a guide to sim arms warrior?

dungeon slice etc

[hybrid needle]

For pushing 20s you can already play what you want really.
Rn col is best and its probably gonna stay that way
Will have to wait for actual numbers to hit after real world testing

[dim basalt]

Yeah no youre not gonna push 20s as Slayer rn lol

[viral fiber]

What I want doent matter for pugs. I need the best meta spec on war

[ashen night]

In every dungeon or are we going slayer in aa and sr?

[dim basalt]

Realistically you can play col in every dungeon

Just in AA and SR you might wanna pick up some ST talents

[viral fiber]

So I play colossus but arms or furt that is the main quetion. Which one gets the invites

[astral yarrow]

just play aug and get carried

but to answer the question, i dont think it matters which warrior spec you are

[dim basalt]

^

[viral fiber]

Aug is nerfed and stop trolling I am not fotm player

[astral yarrow]

nerf doesnt mean bad xdd

[dim basalt]

Arms gets as many invites as Fury

Doesnt really matter

[astral yarrow]

ddh got nerfed and its still miles ahead

[warped owl]

Aug barely got nerfed

[dim basalt]

ye Aug will still be giga broken

[viral fiber]

So I am switching from prot to arms since stats are same. I hope fury not better than arms

[dim basalt]

Nah Arms is better, at least as of right now

[astral yarrow]

it may or may not be with the coming tuning

[dim basalt]

But the spec doesnt matter, still

Both specs can time bleeding edge keys

[astral yarrow]

it sort of depends on what the bottleneck ends up being

[dim basalt]

The boredom of playing Fury is the worst bottleneck

[twilit oyster]

yeah fury its the same with ret for me, for 1-2 hours it feels so fun then gets boring really quick

[stone beacon]

anyone know if the crest cap will be removed so ik if i should reroll another arms warrior or not

[minor gust]

[dim basalt]

Havent heard of a crest cap removal for .7

[stone beacon]

feels like fury hasn't changed since legion/bfa

[dim basalt]

Fixed it for you

[minor gust]

if only there was a proc rate buff alongside the rest

[dim basalt]

They could easily increase it to 30%

20% is just so low

[stone beacon]

is there a proc rate limit for slayer?

[forest eagle]

Do we play slayer again on next patch?

[astral yarrow]

20% chance and was removed from mortal strike

so overall less

[astral yarrow]

slayer does a lot better in singletarget but trades a boatload of aoe

[viral fiber]

So I just need 2h and I am ready to change from prot to arms

[forest eagle]

I know but how are the incoming buffs?

[viral fiber]

No stat change needed

[astral yarrow]

#updates-midnight

[dim basalt]

Just be Kha and pull off 2x BS in 1 CS in AA or something

[minor gust]

just proc bro

what you cant proc?

psssshhh

loser

[astral talon]

ok guys, i got almost every item with bis stats, and mythic garfrost weapon, where the fuck do i craft embelishments xD

if at all?

legs/back?

boots/back?

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-gb/character/eu/burning-legion/Artji

i legit have no clue where to craft my shit xD

its fresh character, geared this week

[summer shore]

colo arms in keys, pure st, mortal strike still take prio over heroic strike

?

[warped owl]

I usually craft back/bracer since they have lowest stat budget

[bright grove]

hs > ms, but its like 0.0x% difference

[astral yarrow]

that only really goes if you have any prospects of getting everything at 289 ilvl though

[forest eagle]

Thank you!

[warped owl]

Isn’t quite realistic to get that now since you can get 3 myth items each week excluding raid

[astral yarrow]

if you have to upgrade everything from 276->289 its gonna take a while because of the crest cost (given you get the hero track piece to 6/6 first). Killing the later mythic bosses with for example 4/6 myth gear speeds up the process a boatload

[warped owl]

True

[astral talon]

i might have full mythic in like 3 weeks max

most likely in 2

thus im not sure where to craft

or if its even worth it, im gonna assume it will be worth it

so back wrists?

[inland drift]

might recraft weapon for mastery since Pit was so gracious with a myth weapon

and then, a second mastery weapon

[stable fiber]

me mentioned

[clever crag]

Is there like a tier list sim with the tuning changes out ?

We prolly still mid, low mid anyway

[thick kelp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SD3SpjXSVts

[astral talon]

devourer will still be crazy strong

sooooooo ye

[dreamy sandal]

Anyone know if our execute phase rotation changes for Slayer after the buffs?

Like do we press more executes now cause its big dam?

[thick hamlet]

i dont think we can press more execute even if we wanted to

[warped owl]

We are already kind of rage starved in execute so nothing really changes in gameplay

[dreamy sandal]

Ok, so we are not putting prio on sudden death charges in execute phase?

[strong copper]

heyo folks I got plenty of questions since the guild I joined progressed far faster than I did on some bosses
considering I didn't play colossus until now and tonight is mythic dragons, i've seen people doing ~70% on void orbs, and i'm not interested in padding so I figured I'd ask anyone with exp such as common guidelines

do you wait for colossus smash to be back up before pressing demolish? do you full combo the orbs (=> colossus, demolish, cleave x3)

can you squeeze in the rend beforehand?

sorry if I sound like a dumbass I've pretty much only played slayers (except for vanguard) and since I'm behind on progress gameplay wise I gotta try and cheat the intel out of you folks

[slow saddle]

8% when u 20% behind is a gap closer but as ppl say mid

[strong copper]

( also, wouldn't slayer be better output using the colossus smash sweeping strikes for prog? )

[slow saddle]

Nah

[thick kelp]

If you arent interested in padding slam CS on CD into the boss and optionally you can press demolish on the bosses too on Cd unless you need more orb dam

[slow saddle]

Tbh mby wednesday

[thick kelp]

go to wc logs and filter by boss dam

and check a 2t build from there

[slow saddle]

Alsp very dependant

Where do u mass grip adds

[thick kelp]

i did that for you too CcEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAzMzsMzMzYAAAAMMNMzYmZZZmZmZwYmBAAAAwYzMwWMgNzYYDGYG2oxgFgZwYMbWmZbwMDAYGDD

[slow saddle]

My guild in a spot where i cant hit boss and asd

[thick kelp]

Treat the fight as a 2T fight cds on cd bla bla

[slow saddle]

So i just sens demo // cs on boss

Press the free cleaves on adds coz why not

[strong copper]

first week doing dragons with them, but from what I'm told the orbs gets evaporated ye

just joined them this week and been underperforming quite a bit (mostly because I didn't run colossus on chimaerus and was overall not familiar enough with the fights)

thanks for the advices tho folks

[thick kelp]

You dont run colossus on chima in the first place

[clever crag]

Nah run it

Its good tbh

For the intermission adds

[thick kelp]

and thats it

as if

the inter adds live longer than

5s

XD

[clever crag]

The st build is hyper trash there unless youre in some top 100 guild

On your usual prog guild they will live longer for sure

[thick kelp]

not even

[slow saddle]

Do u got ddhs + ret

[strong copper]

2+1 ye

[slow saddle]

If yes slayer😅

Tbh ftom wednesday, mighy be slayer on dragons

Ill have 2 check the 2t sims

[clever crag]

I did that on hc and was decent

The adds are just pad anyway

[strong copper]

top 1 slayer on vaelgor mythic is parsing 66 feelsbadman

i guess such is the life without padding

[clever crag]

Oooooooooooof

Not happening then even after buff

[strong copper]

it's averaging +10% output on bosses but yeah

[ionic mica]

Colo 2t is very good anyway

[clever crag]

Yeah

Just demo is good

[strong copper]

we don't send cleave into 2 targets right?

unless no sweeping strikes + ms

[clever crag]

I think not

I do send the empowered tho

[ionic mica]

Not sure on the exact prio since the slam changes but yeah you can cleave on 2t with 3 stacks of collateral damage

Doubt it would be a huge difference if slam has overtaken it

[latent pasture]

hey guys, I have one craft available, what do you think would be better between a back and a neck (or maybe something else)?

[edgy cloak]

farm neck from Pit and craft back but at this time at season ohter myth backs 289 itl would be better i think ]

[latent pasture]

ok thanks

[plucky bramble]

hi, is there something different i need to be dooing while playing slayer?

cant get good numbers on raid

[elder moat]

Hey! Does Anyone know if berserkers rage with fearless talented removes the gargoyles Plungegrio in Pit? can’t test atm

[slow saddle]

What evers the most boss dmg is what id play for prog

[ionic mica]

it does not, clears snares not roots

[slow saddle]

Cry 4 paladins

[ionic mica]

or monk

or play nelf and meld

[thorn scarab]

In 2-target cleave should i be spending my collateral stacks when they hit max?

[slow saddle]

I think above pressin slam maybe?

Not certain though

As slam can deep wounds

Id say if u c u runnin out of sweeos

Send a cleave

[ionic mica]

someone could check the apl but a 2t quick sim as colo keys build casts cleave at 3 stacks of collat if it cant HS, MS, OP, or send a cd

ahead of slam

[thick kelp]

filler after OP at 3 collat stacks or ravager up

filler after MS at 3 collat&ravager up

[viral fiber]

Do we switch between slayer and colossus on dungeons

[thick kelp]

this week no

next week maybe

[viral fiber]

If switch where

Skyreach?

[thick kelp]

skyreach/aa

[short crescent]

Okay lads I've read the wowhead guide but am more of a visual learning. Who should I watch for a beginners guide to arms warrior

[blazing solstice]

Biz’s guide helped me alot

[short crescent]

I'll check em out, thanks

[sacred raft]

Anyone have any good addons for sweeping strikes by chance? Sometimes in the heat of the moment I forget to look at the buff duration and realize it has dropped. Def a skill issue but I’m trying to get better at Arms lol.

[halcyon valve]

track it with the cooldown manager

[sacred zodiac]

You can add a sound when sweep gets fully consumed in the cdm might be good to condition yourself to know the timing

[sacred raft]

Thanks for the recommendations, I’ll look into this.

I’ve been playing outlaw here and there and there’s a quite a few adds on that remind you when blade fury either drops or should be used in multiple target vs single target situations so i guess my brain got used to that 🤣

[frigid rose]

Trying to sim my warrior to figure out gear to go arms.
(It was prot to tank keys for my guild)
Hes only simming 84.4, is that due to awful stated jewelry? None have crit
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2vx3QWQFQ9qC1Gba7LXHXy

[thick kelp]

yeah

[feral breach]

Welcome to warrior, with our very good single target damage

[frigid rose]

So I shoild probably send rerolls in pit for neck and ring then?

[rigid wedge]

Who do you think will be better after the reset, Arms or Fury, for dungeons and raids?

[plucky bramble]

do we know how much closer slayer will be for dungeons? i prefer slayer much more and single target is killing me

another thing, any stat change for slayer? or still crit > haste

[desert briar]

Bro you can add a Sound effect in Cooldownmanager when the buff expires. Basically get a notification when it drops

[dim basalt]

If only it worked well

[desert briar]

Sometimes is better than not at all tho

[astral yarrow]

i hate the addonpocalypse i hate the addonpocalypse i hate the addonpocalypse i hate the addonpocalypse i hate the addonpocalypse i hate the addonpocalypse i hate the addonpocalypse

or rather, i hate how wholly incompetent the handling of it has been

"lets replace 20 years of passion developed addons in 6 months with a workforce of 5 dudes"

queue the "i thought addons were gone???" chatters in race to world first streams 💀

[warped owl]

Colo likes crit a bit more and slayer haste a bit more but it’s so close it does not really matter

[radiant ore]

Hi, just dinged and about to get ''boosted'' through +10. What's the best dungeon to use rerolls on?

Coming from a guy with no gear

[plucky bramble]

for arms pit prob

[radiant ore]

thx

[sinful pawn]

Pit for weapon and Neck for sure!
Skyreach and Academy for trinket

[brave current]

With the buffs coming, what’s looking to be the premiere M+ spec?

[plain violet]

Its still gonna be Colossus, but you'll probably play Slayer in Skyreach and Academy

[vocal flicker]

Colo

[tight basin]

How big will the difference be?

[brave current]

What about between dirt and arms?

Fury*

[tight basin]

Between colo and slayer? if its close might worth playing slayer

[plain violet]

Fury is behind right now. The AOE is worse and the single target is better, but if your tank knows how to funnel onto bosses its also falls behind there

[brave current]

Good to know was just wondering if I should start practicing it

[inland tartan]

is warrior still cooked, chat?

can i come back to wow or am i still single player game gaming

[winter hedge]

Hi ! With update wednesday, arm better or fury? (Mm+)

+18 19

[dim basalt]

Hm I wonder if someone answered that question just a few messages ago

[fresh spire]

https://giphy.com/gifs/its-over-were-back-so-r6oVCm8D7n6KRXHEke

[astral yarrow]

https://i.gyazo.com/ee7ef7b4bcfc516453025c9d2762c325.gif

[feral breach]

Oops im dooming again

[astral yarrow]

this xpac is pure doom so far

[thick kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/dumbo-t1-lol-league-of-legends-esports-gif-15310081642824361258

[sacred zodiac]

arms blasts !!! (in 2 days) (not really)

[fervent cedar]

Both are quite playable

[dim basalt]

People will not accept a "skill >>>>>>> spec" answer

[winter kernel]

Ive noticed my cleave being quite a bit lower %dmg share in keys (18s), like in the high 20s, as opposed to sometimes even 40ish. Any immediate idea besides positioning why that is? Small thing would be squeezing more casts by always pre-using before WB but I doubt it would amount to that much of a discrepancy

[icy mulch]

Sadly you can't advertise skill when you que up for a dungeon. They only see class and spec. Hence why a lot of ppl complain. It has gotten pretty petty these days, but no where near as bad as Dragonflight was.

[dim basalt]

And both specs get invited decently

dunno

[nova marsh]

We all hate it brother

[astral yarrow]

i wouldnt know

[sacred zodiac]

slayer m+ st rotation in execute is that one condemn m+ mickey mouse season rotation

[astral yarrow]

yeah krispi or cone showed the sims shortly after buffs were announced

[dusty slate]

does armor pen from apex talents buff everyones dmg or just the warrior?

[astral yarrow]

MS needs buffing bad

[sacred zodiac]

idk kinda funny

press the button the phase is named after

[thick kelp]

batchest

[sweet kite]

Yours. If it were raid wide we would be mandatory.

[astral yarrow]

the amount of waiting even the sim does is an atrocity

[sacred zodiac]

waiting for resource went really hard in sanctum

now ppl mald when it happens

[astral yarrow]

I was looking at ways to get bloodsurge, but it doesnt even matter outside multitarget

[sacred zodiac]

not real arms players

[astral yarrow]

in sanctum i could chargeweave

now i dont have a fucking swingtimer

[strange comet]

Wait so is slarms rotation changing at all with buffs? Or in the execute window at least

[nova marsh]

no

It's only buffing the stuff we already have at high prio (execute, overpower in M+, reap with cleave and such)

[astral yarrow]

shhh dont tell him

[dim basalt]

that was only outside of cs tho right

[nova marsh]

I should've just said overpower in general MB lol

[dim basalt]

I dont think the exe spam makes it into the guides lol

Its pretty dumb

[nova marsh]

I just saw it lol

Even if it's more dps

problem

is if you spam exe you just rage starve

[dim basalt]

Just proc more windfury

?

[nova marsh]

• sims don't account for downtime do they?

[dim basalt]

Sims are 0 downtime ye

[nova marsh]

yeahhhh

don't think exe spam is practical

[astral yarrow]

yes

actions.slayer_execute+=/mortal_strike,if=buff.executioners_precision.stack=2&debuff.colossus_smash.up
actions.slayer_execute+=/overpower,if=buff.opportunist.up&talent.opportunist```

middle line

[dim basalt]

Spamming exe just to have 0 procs of anything going into cs

The dream

[nova marsh]

So question

does the sim use HS?

[astral yarrow]

just above the BS line

[nova marsh]

ahhh

[dim basalt]

I wish the apl would use whitespaces

Its so horrondous

[astral yarrow]

we just got syntax highlighting

so slowly getting there

[nova marsh]

Yeah idk how yall stare at that

[dim basalt]

Im a code monkey and still hate this

[astral yarrow]

you'd take it into something with syntax highlighting like notepad++ or some other good text editor

sarri is a psycho and just uses a million raidbots windows

[nova marsh]

Yall APL coders concern me

[astral yarrow]

just dont download notepad++ when its randomly backdoored

[astral yarrow]

why

the process is pretty simple and quite satisfying actually

its kind of fun getting an idea and trying to model it

then suddenly it doesnt cast mortal strike at all

in DF S2 i was trying out whether using avatar how i'd been doing it actually was a dps gain, but i started out somehow deleting avatar from the opener

[nova marsh]

Sounds about right

[thick kelp]

:(

[zenith warren]

if you guys had bis trinkets, would you next roll pit for a weapon or nexus for rings?

[nova marsh]

Did u craft weap

[zenith warren]

vers mastery weapon from vault

[nova marsh]

Very poopy but

Depends on what other myth items ur missing i'd say

if ur missing tier, belt, or neck too I'd go pit

I got liferipper's and garfrost's is only a 500 dps increase

[fresh spire]

[icy mulch]

I've been lucky with my reroll tokens. Got the ring, neck, weapon, and cloak from Pit so far.

[nova marsh]

goated

[icy mulch]

Replaced a crafter weapon, so now I need to craft another embellishment.

[rustic reef]

is there any situation where you are using ravager before warbreaker in aoe ?

[dim basalt]

yeah, always

[rustic reef]

dont u lose cleave 2 full globals worth of cleave

i mean 1 global of cleave

[dim basalt]

Im not sure if you do but the other way you lose cs uptime

[proven veldt]

the global inside CS has to be worth more than a global inside ravager

[sudden owl]

I think there was some debate about that before 12.0.5 but now that cs resets cleave CD you probably always do it before

I'm not a pro tho

[rustic reef]

I've been doing it all wrong then thanks

[clever stream]

feel like I must be doing something very wrong seeing people burst up to 600k on first pack of magisters when I'm prob only at half that with 272 ilvl 38% crit. pre-casting sweeping before hand, not sending demolish until 10 stacks, getting 2 demolishes in the first CS and just not seeing it. feel like a dummy

[thick kelp]

pre casting sweep is bad

bad bad bad

holding demo till 10 stacks on pull is bad

[rustic reef]

pre sweeping is only good if by the time you use cs you have 15 seconds left on the sweeping cd

also are you using rend are you cleaivng on cd are you sending demlosh off cd

would have to see a log tbh

[lone raft]

where do we do re rolls?

[granite swift]

pit

[lone raft]

we can re roll right from the vault?

at the bank?

[pulsar frost]

No

[granite swift]

you can take 6 tokens from the vault to get another voidcore to use to roll yea if thats what you mean

[lone raft]

Ok ty… I understand the what, but where

I don’t see the button to re roll at the vault

[candid kindle]

I think this is just worth if you already have almost everything and youre looking for very punctual stuff

[lone raft]

is it done at the place in the void for that weekly event? We need to beat raid bosses to unlock it?

[fallen dome]

You take the 6 tokens from vault then speak to the vault reward vendor and purchase the bonus roll.

[lone raft]

gotcha ty

[fallen dome]

It costs 6 tokens, same as if you were buying a socket.

[fallen dome]

Wowhead shows the initial pull rotation for colossus aoe. If you have more than one monitor, you can keep it up for practice until you get the muscle memory.

[tribal latch]

hey friends. learning arms warrior here (still leveling 80-90) but I was going through wowhead rotation guide and it says to use mortal strike before demolish during CS window. i was wondering why that is if I am missing something

[clever stream]

Wowheads initial pull rotation is literally just charge rend, avatar/CS, 3 cleave, MS, demolish

[sacred raft]

Will try this when I get home haha ty

[clever stream]

Not only would that not be a great idea to send on the first giant pull without taking the first two seconds to get the extra stacks of colossal might

[fallen dome]

Trust the suggestion. It works.

[clever stream]

Lol

[fallen dome]

That line right there is correct. Add your dps pot with cds and it works

But 3 cleaves after demolish

[tribal latch]

I am not arguing the line, someone much smarter than me put it together, I was just curious if there was a reason why MS is prioritized over that first demolish

[barren void]

Been away for 2 weeks, do we try to prio bonus rolls for a wep if we have a crafted one atm? Assuming im only clearing Chimaerus and first 2 Voidspire

[craggy steeple]

sweeping strike mortal strike crits give u tons of colo strength buff

makes ur demolish stronger

[tribal latch]

ah... perfect. thank you! see I figured there was a good reason I wasnt seeing. like I said I am still learning so I appreciate you breaking it down

[craggy steeple]

cleave will only ever give u one stack of colo strength so just keep that in mind when your thinking about your stacks

mortal strike gives 1 stack for every target hit and 2 if it crits

[tribal latch]

so the MS gives big buff to demolish if it sweeps in CS window

[willow jay]

This true?

[fallen dome]

Also gives collateral dmg stacks

[craggy steeple]

yes

[tribal latch]

awesome! tyty

[fallen dome]

It’s true

[craggy steeple]

when your at 10 stacks it also converts all the stacks u would be getting into cool down reduction for your demolish allowing you to get more of them off

[clever stream]

Pre casting sweep as the key starts is not bad, it will be up again before the broad strokes one finishes and it starts you with collat

If you mean sweeping before a CS in general than obviously yes it's just wasted

[fallen dome]

You’re gonna overlap CS SS stacks and you will run out before it’s back up.

[craggy steeple]

i mean you can precast it before key is put in and it will keep your stacks up into the key

and by the time u actually colo smash it will already be off cd

[clever stream]

Exactly

It's what literally everyone does

Idk what they are on

[craggy steeple]

u just dont do it as ur running into the pack

[fallen dome]

That part is true. Thought he mean going into first pack

[craggy steeple]

oh how i wish details still worked how it used too

one of the things im trying to get better at is sweeping strikes uptime and i hate going into logs to see it

[soft peak]

What is CS

[barren void]

What did you guys prio your bonus rolls for?

[limpid hornet]

Beloren trinket and i missed twice already

[sacred zodiac]

please dont bonus roll hc

[limpid hornet]

why, i won't do it in mythic anyway

[sacred zodiac]

dont think theres a sim combo that exists that has hc beloren trinket sim better than a good myth trinket combo

[ionic mica]

you can roll for chim/vorasius/averzian mythic in pugs if you dont want keys trinkets

[limpid hornet]

Did sim myself before going, the only one close is the Skyreach one with 200 dps behind

[barren void]

Pit of Saron also looks decent to roll for no? Im also kinda set on trinkets with puzzle box + heart mythic

[sacred zodiac]

if you're arms you roll chim or vorasius or pit p much

[barren void]

Yeah PoS seems pretty nice, gonna go for that

Need a weapon still too

[olive nest]

Pit is all good except cloak

Safe place to roll

[sacred zodiac]

always sim it since it kinda depends what items you have already

[barren void]

I feel like the loot table in PoS is gonna be bis from the things I can do

[sacred zodiac]

unless you cook your sims to the point where a hc trinket sims best for you maybe dont trust that

[jolly cedar]

why is colossus rank 2 for dps throughput overall, out of all specs/hero talents but slayer is the recommended raid build on wowhead lol

[sacred zodiac]

whats the rank 2 stat based on

[neon shale]

Servers crashed?

[sacred zodiac]

and slarms does bossdamage which is the damage type warrior would be brought for

[sacred zodiac]

i dont even know what website this is

[jolly cedar]

💀

[reef prairie]

What kinda fuckass website are you looking at lmfao

You play colossus on a couple bosses

Slayer is the primary raid spec though

[sacred zodiac]

on paladins you should probably be on slayer on everything else

[jolly cedar]

maybe its a new website idk but i was looking at archon

[sacred zodiac]

archon just aggregates stats

[olive nest]

[sacred zodiac]

decent data point but you shouldbnt base your opinion around it

[bleak arrow]

Too late Claude just cooked me an addon that sets my talents in real time based on archon data.

[sacred zodiac]

oh i mean i think i get how this table came to be?

they probably nabbed all logs that played colossus and averaged the dps on it? and since you only play it on paladins it looks good

idk

[nova marsh]

This is truly how to make your M+ runs RNG

Find out real fast if they're trolling

[ebon rock]

I’m using my 3x Cleave AFTER Demolish. Am I trolling or

[dim basalt]

no

[ebon rock]

Thought so, but after previous messages I Got a bit unsure. Thanks mate

[fallen dome]

I just follow Biz. He broke everything down over a few videos. Found out about pure single target in seat and thought it was troll but it worked out nicely and made 17 feel much easier killing prio targets and bosses.

[barren void]

Doing a +10 is enough for myth track items with the bonus roll right?

[jolly cedar]

ye

[barren void]

ty

[jolly cedar]

its based on whatever you'd get in vault

[barren void]

Same track level with 10 and high too i guess then oke

[ionic mica]

oh yeah those are fine, was more in response to nirvana bonus rolling on hc beloren

[jolly cedar]

is it based to go high mountain tauren for arms

[nova marsh]

If you have max stacks id use them after

[nova marsh]

Its based to go tauren for warr in general

[jolly cedar]

race changing to HM tauren now

[strange comet]

Join us brother

[jolly cedar]

i wanna be based, im tired of being fake based

[ebon rock]

👍♥️

[hybrid needle]

will it ever stop

[bleak arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/robzombie-headbanging-scottpetershaha-gif-15600005671718571275

[toxic osprey]

Hey, do we absolutely pass by the Archon app for the logs ? I read a lot of people having problem with the app (privacy and the app take a lot of ressources from the pc) so i was wondering if we can put the logs on the website warcraftlogs without the Archon app ?

[minor gust]

You don't need Archon to log

Use the Warcraft log uploader app you can get from Warcraft logs site

[toxic osprey]

The one who work with Overwolf ?

[strange comet]

There's one without overwolf

From the same site

[toxic osprey]

ok, gotta keep searching

[charred wraith]

Hey Guys! Crown of the Cosmos is single target or cleave better ?

[tall socket]

i'll say cleave, first phase has heavy cleave, second less cleave but still has, and final phase is ST

[charred wraith]

Thx ❤️

[short crescent]

I'll have to check this out, I thought it was only archon

[robust cypress]

Hey guys, is it better to craft bracers or gloves for arms atm assuming Im not bonus rolling windrunner's for awhile

[bitter kestrel]

gloves has higher stat weights iirc so a myth piece would give you more than crafted 285

but it probably depends more on what you are replacing. could just sim both and compare

[wind hatch]

single target is better

void droplet damage is irrelevant

[short crescent]

P2 adds are somewhat significant

[wind hatch]

they die extremely fast

just pop ss before they spawn

and run full st build

[tall socket]

did they removed the second hit animation from Fervor of Battle?

[wind hatch]

yeah

[fiery inlet]

is there like an addon to scream at me to apply rend? ^^

[tall socket]

:V sad, that was cool

[wind hatch]

yeah i hope they bring it back

[minor gust]

If they dont advertise it on the site anymore cuz of archon I'm sure you can find it by googling around because mine still works and receives updates

[minor gust]

Because of bonus rolling bis setup has adjusted to fit in the seat gloves so you don't wanna craft there if you can help it

[robust cypress]

Oh bis is seat gloves? Yuck

[vast helm]

We good?

[robust cypress]

My war isnt mythic raiding so it wont see M crown/lura at all, how much does the bis list change in that case?

wowhead still shows windrunner gloves as bis

[nova marsh]

If ur not raiding, windrunner gloves are likely better yes

[wraith lichen]

Just sim ur upgrades

[nova marsh]

This too

[pulsar frost]

trust the robot

[minor gust]

Wowhead bis doesn't get updated because Bis lists are a bit silly. But current sim bis is using it

[pulsar frost]

seat gloves is a dps loss for me, wind runner glvoes dps gain

ezpz

[minor gust]

Tiny ST upg

[small hamlet]

Can anyone give me some advice on how to improve my cleave damage? I can't get past 70 million :C and my single-target damage is pathetic haha

[minor gust]

Sim your character using training dummy and keep reviewing wowhead guide till you beat consistently beat the sim

[steep walrus]

so I was told that for rotation it should mortal strike, then 3 globals then mortal strike, if overpower procs, is it worth hitting that as a 4th global while its still glowing before mortal striking?

[honest seal]

so next update will be slayer or still clossuss ?

[latent moss]

powerful

[honest seal]

its shit

every 2 mins haste which useless when u r cap

[wind hatch]

?

[honest seal]

FTW

crit for lifeeeee

[tacit crystal]

@fresh spire @minor gust have you guys noticed that sometimes sudden death / execute doesnt give executioners precesion

[dim basalt]

Except that it isnt for M+

[latent moss]

its 1:30 which aligns with ravager

[minor gust]

Holy you are huge. I'm hoping we decide to reclear and not extend this week I still want guidon for Colo. We had a 0.01% wipe on Alleria last night

[latent moss]

[minor gust]

Hoping with nerfs on reset we just reclear

[latent moss]

dps warr on alleria

[minor gust]

Because of the bug fix I sat myself on Alleria

DPS warrior so shit and didn't make sense I was in and our only rogue was sitting when sub owns on Alleria right now

[minor gust]

I have I assumed because of it been parried but I think I've noticed that happen in M+ too

Which shouldn't have Parry besides certain bosses

[tacit crystal]

ive noticed it both in raid and m+

[latent moss]

oh

makes sense tbh

idk dps warr just does nothing on that fight

[minor gust]

Difficult to replicate

Yeah DPS warrior is dead weight

And it just didn't feel right for me to be in

[latent moss]

lortharxxian

can parry

log ur runs ig idk

[steep walrus]

no one has an answer to this?

[wind hatch]

treat the rotation like a priority list, you always just press what's highest priority on that list

[pulsar frost]

i like this trinket, it fits so well with col arms

its not the greatest on slayer tho

[wind hatch]

i feel like player skill is way more relevant at this level and i don't think it would be incorrect for me to say that you're one of the best players in your guild

[sudden owl]

I think I'm one of the better players in my guild and I had a miserable time on that fight, its just not fun as melee unless ur fake melee like udk

[pulsar frost]

which fight?

[dim basalt]

Mugzee flashbacks

[sudden owl]

Crown

[minor gust]

Our rogue is good too which also why I suggested to swap us. He's the guy I do keys with

Prophethood. Good rogue player

[wind hatch]

oh yeah that makes sense

[midnight root]

https://tenor.com/view/bedge-pepe-sleep-gif-24023312

Are we sleeping good tonight?

[minor gust]

But yeah in my guild level player skill is all that matters

[minor gust]

Tho I'm probably leaving to finally join a HOF guild next tier

[dim basalt]

Damn

[minor gust]

Think it's time

[wind hatch]

huge

good luck gamer

[dim basalt]

I joined a 500-600 guild for now

Good enough for just 6 hours tbh

[pulsar frost]

i should leave and join a CE guild, guilds holding me back but the folks arent bad folks

[minor gust]

I had an HOF guild reach out to me before the tier started. Told them I already committed this tier with my current guild. The guy msged me while they were starting Lura prog if I was still down

So I'm probably gonna join them once my current guild is done with the tier

[dim basalt]

They want that dih

How much do they raid?

[minor gust]

3 days

[dim basalt]

3 or 4 hours each day?

[minor gust]

3 hours I believe

Same as my current guild

[dim basalt]

Thats crazy good then

[minor gust]

Shout-out parallax gaming

I don't remember their WR I think it's 150+

[wind hatch]

some people in my guild did a mythic alt reclear with them

they're good

[minor gust]

Here's to hoping I pass their trial then

I've gotten a lil lazy with my current guild so I've been making some silly mistakes. Hoping going up will kick me back into shape

[dim basalt]

No doubt you will

[prisma bluff]

Hi everyone, I have a question. Now that they're making changes to the arms, what should the order of the stats be? This whole thing is confusing me.

slayer for raid

[wind hatch]

nothing is really changing in that regard

[prisma bluff]

Would critc still be valid until mastery true?

[thick kelp]

Sim yo self

[prisma bluff]

crit ,haste, mastery , etc

[dim basalt]

download simc addon
type /simc ingame
paste into raidbots
wear what the sim tells you

[prisma bluff]

ty

[nova marsh]

Pop off man

Rooting for your trial to go well

[vast helm]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/outlaw-upcoming-tuning/2302295

you guys see this?

[nova marsh]

Na chief deserves to crash out

Literally worst case possible for outlaw

Nerfed and you still run trickster

[wind hatch]

average blizzard tuning:

[nova marsh]

Honestly

Thats tame compared to his crashouts I've seen in ravenholt

"Take the 13% back! I dont want it!"

[minor gust]

[night mauve]

the Imgur he posted with Arms topping all the list of overalls, is what I dont want blizzard to see

[vast helm]

i think he post that damage overall images from his team&comp are not quite appropriate , in particular, the planned routes and combinations were not very accurate.

[ionic mica]

i know its mostly translation wording but the CN player cracks me up

[astral yarrow]

oh its the no voice group

[ionic mica]

Outlaw remains one of the most complex, reaction-heavy specs in the game, where the punishment for a single rotational mistake is absolutely massive. Many of us spend countless sleepless nights analyzing logs and fine-tuning our rotations just so we can execute dozens of split-second, micro-decisions correctly in a single pull.

brain surgeon spec

[icy atlas]

Outlaw players:

[sudden owl]

my rogue player does it easily and farms all of u and he doesn't need this ego boost

please say it's a meme spec thank you

[rain fiber]

Rogue is such a sad class, their gameplay has been hit or miss for years, Sub was literally murdered over the sins of Uldir and was left dead for years, while Outlaw (being a special spec for a particular subset of players) is so high on procs and reactions while having so little reward that I don't get the concept. Can they rework the specs and modernize them? Because (in the case of Outlaw) target capping them or having no CD's doesn't make sense in the modern systems, raids or dungeons (Yes, this applies to Fury Warrior too)

[ionic mica]

procs and full uptime is the point of outlaw

the reward is the gameplay 🙂

[flat willow]

outlaw is what rogues claimed their gameplay was since vanilla

[naive sage]

To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Rick and Morty. The humor is extremely subtle, and without a solid grasp of theoretical physics most of the jokes will go over a typical viewer's head. There's also Rick's nihilistic outlook, which is deftly woven into his characterisation - his personal philosophy draws heavily fromNarodnaya Volya literature, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of these jokes, to realize that they're not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Rick and Morty truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn't appreciate, for instance, the humour in Rick's existencial catchphrase "Wubba Lubba Dub Dub," which itself is a cryptic reference to Turgenev's Russian epic Fathers and Sons I'm smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Dan Harmon's genius unfolds itself on their television screens. What fools... how I pity them. 😂 And yes by the way, I DO have a Rick and Morty tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It's for the ladies' eyes only- And even they have to demonstrate that they're within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand.

[flat willow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1170102876094349443/1172279811415232594/nht9vrlrgpo61.gif?ex=655fbda6&is=654d48a6&hm=45fb6cec14fa25100173a3a36f7d9422aac456aca59f618dfe2a643e1971c2a6&

[rain fiber]

issue is that the fights haven't been designed around 100% uptime for years, now every fight has you move to drop puddles, swap targets or things like that. Just on this rotation of raids I think Paladins is the only legitimate fight where you can have high uptime, but otherwise the concept of sustained damage classes is contrary to current design, but that's my take.

[flat willow]

that's the actually gameplay for most of their lifespan

[steep walrus]

so I think the answer to using overpower if its lit up as a 4th global instead of hitting mortal strike is actually no

[ionic mica]

the alternative is 3 specs of rogue that are all basically the same

[steep walrus]

you hit mortal strike

[ionic mica]

cd window power

just like all the other specs in the game

they can get the fire mage treatment and go from high uptime on cd to tearing their eyes out but i think theyd want to go back to current design

the challenge of uptime specs is learning to get the uptime

[rain fiber]

I don't want to say that every class needs to be a CD reliant one, but that's how Blizzard has made their game, considering the prevalence of "Adds will spawn every 45/1 min/ 1:30 mins" or how M+ is designed around having packs every 30 seconds or so, so that classes benefit from it will always shine.

I think what would fix this is having more patchwerk bosses, where uptime is something easier/guaranteed, but it gives certain specs their time to shine

[bleak arrow]

Make warrior 10y range. Remove OF/Ravager. and I’m content.

[hybrid needle]

10y range with whqt

Everything ?

[ionic mica]

oh for sure the game is geared to burstier specs, but is all specs like fury and outlaw need to "feel good" is to have better tuning

[flat willow]

that was rogue in dragonflight, wasn't it

[bleak arrow]

Yes.

[night mauve]

Wait… did I just walk into Ravenholdt? Warrior rejoice,, we dont want rogues to be good

[hybrid needle]

Go play SV then. I like being melee. I wanna be in the enemies face when i bully them

[ionic mica]

optimisng uptime being the challenge is fine if the reward is actually useful damage. right now neither of them have that reward xD

[flat willow]

SV has 10 yards on their abilities?

brb, levelling my hunter

[latent moss]

idk uptime never had a real reward

u just got to deal the same amount of damage as other specs

[ionic mica]

if fury was 30% stronger it would have 🙂

[icy atlas]

That’s the approach FF14 takes, melee jobs on average have higher peaks than range jobs because of uptime

[ionic mica]

rather than "nail your cd window" like all the other specs, it would be uptime and constant good gameplay

[icy atlas]

How successful that was, I’m not sure

[flat willow]

optimizing uptime is one thing, but with specs that rely on uptime to get CDR on their abilities

[ionic mica]

but if the damage is low then who cares

[flat willow]

they are punished twice

[bleak arrow]

Horrible example. Those hit boxes are fucking insane.

[flat willow]

every time a boss has a mechanic where they have to leave melee

[rain fiber]

They could have fights like Lady Ashvane or Orgozoa, I remember both being a blast, plus Fury had amazing tuning, but Orgozoa was a fight built for Fury (P1 was at least)

[ionic mica]

oh yeah agreed, i have played enhance and warrior for 4 expansions i know the cdr pain

[icy atlas]

Wasn’t always that way to be fair lol

[ionic mica]

but its also way more fun to play a proc cdr spec idk

imo ofc

[flat willow]

I agree it's pretty fun

[latent moss]

proc specs are more fun i agree

[flat willow]

just outside of raids

[latent moss]

idk about cdr but proc specs are fun

[ionic mica]

rip spirit dogs

[bleak arrow]

I think FF melee have a larger range than a mastery stacking MM in wow.

[hybrid needle]

Proc specs are only more fun if you proc alot

[latent moss]

also true

[icy atlas]

It’s more the bosses themselves having massive hitboxes, which started around Endwalker

[latent moss]

bosses should just have giant hitboxes

[ionic mica]

big hitbox bosses are cool, but they need to also have a big cleave hitbox

so annoying when a giant boss only cleaves from the centre of its hitbox

[hybrid needle]

Bosses should REALLY have bigger hitboxes

[ionic mica]

bloodbound horror good, basically every other giant boss bad

[latent moss]

love when chim parries me from the side

👍

parry = melee texture

true blizz true

[ionic mica]

imagine if spells could be resisted

[latent moss]

add spel resist

ye

[ionic mica]

50% of the playerbase would go on strike

and it would be fixed by tomorrow dinner time

[latent moss]

thing is

if it was possible to stand behind the boss at all times

it wouldnt be a problem

but u legit cant

[ionic mica]

we just have to deal with "ting" and your heart dropping

[hybrid needle]

Hey atleast we dont have hit chance anymore... right?

[stable fiber]

i notice my abilties getting parried even without noise on

sometimes you just feel when it happens

[ionic mica]

pressing heroic strike and it not going away

[wintry dome]

add expertise

[ionic mica]

oh i better go again

[ionic mica]

the noise is just to cement the despair in your soul

[hybrid needle]

Heroic strike damage is so insanely underwhelming to press in ST

[icy atlas]

Thing is, expertise was stacked to eliminate dodge chance

[flat willow]

my idea to fix rage generation without windfury

[icy atlas]

You then needed double that to bypass parry lol

[flat willow]

was adding a buff to rogue and all casters would randomly go oom without that buff

to see how long blizzard takes to fix that

then when they do (1 day later) you can ask to fix the damn rage gen of arms

[stable fiber]

it removed parry chance from the back as well but yeah you could still get parried from the front

[ionic mica]

and theyll say "who is arms?"

whats rage? thats a bear druid thing

[icy atlas]

Riiiight, yeah. It something only tanks worried about more or less

[rain fiber]

btw, where can I check ST sims between Slayer Fury vs Slayer Arms?

[vagrant hull]

Boss am I going to do more damage tomorrow

[brazen peak]

where is the discussion for classic anniversary warrior?

[vagrant hull]

Is my vault finally going to relieve me of my delve trinket tomorrow?

[brazen peak]

i'm looking for some help, newbie here

[nova marsh]

Look up fight club

[thick kelp]

https://discord.gg/RbCZJtw

[brazen peak]

thank you !

[terse nimbus]

friends, do i ever press execute in aoe?

[nova marsh]

As slayer yes

As colo only if ur luck is trash with op resets

[terse nimbus]

hmmm i see

[nova marsh]

As slayer u press exe the instant sd triggers always

[terse nimbus]

i saw critcake playing slayer on alghetar

[latent moss]

algethar is probably a thane fury angle on reset

[terse nimbus]

trying to figure why i cant do dmg on that pull

[latent moss]

slarms does less st and less aoe

on reset

[hybrid needle]

You prolly watched the vid from when ms still did rts

[terse nimbus]

now im playing colossus arms

but wondering if slayer will be viable next week

its easier to play i feel

im struggling a bit

[drifting sparrow]

How can slayer arms do less on reset? Isn't it just getting buffs

[hybrid needle]

Bozo Simmed that out to be a 20k-ish difference in aoe i think

[terse nimbus]

less aoe but we do some single target i guess

should be good on academy

[drifting sparrow]

Also the discussion about parry above didn't they remove the parry thing from behind the boss

[ionic mica]

its about thane fury and slayer arms after reset

[drifting sparrow]

Ahhhh

[ionic mica]

some bosses can parry from behind, some cant

for reasons

[terse nimbus]

i guess i will need to learn fury

[ionic mica]

some dont parry at all

for reasons

[hybrid needle]

Nice red scratching but we can still see it was @terse nimbus that wrote something threre

[flat willow]

Didn't they say parry were removed from anything but raids

I could swear I'm getting parried in m+

[ionic mica]

i didnt want to confuse people by making the 3 messages look connected xD

[drifting sparrow]

So after the reset it will basically be sl arms ST, thane 2-4 and Colo 5+?

[ionic mica]

colo will still be cracked on anything 2t and up

[hybrid needle]

You can still play col on everything

[terse nimbus]

do we know by how much colo is ahead of slayer?

for dungeons

[hybrid needle]

Take this with a Grain of Salt

[ionic mica]

the short answer is idk, but aoe colo is 20% ahead (from what i remember seeing of someone simming) with a similar gap the other direction in ST for slayer

[latent moss]

i would never play it over thane fury in algethar

u do like infinitely less st

[ionic mica]

thane fury also has the benefit of being chill to play

its not like you swap spec and have to learn crazy things

[latent moss]

ye u just swap

neck

and a ring

muh stats

who cares its 2026

[ionic mica]

i bonus rolled alleria neck today

surely i can wear that for fury

[latent moss]

ez crest save

xdd

[ionic mica]

i would wear it already but i want to reck pot and it make smy haste go too big

[ionic mica]

bonus roll more like bonus crests

[reef glade]

would say alleria neck only wearable as fury

[ionic mica]

we had 4 people bonus roll it

[reef glade]

giving up 12 million crit as arms too sus

[latent moss]

y i dont see arms wearing it

especially colo

[hybrid needle]

If it comes to a point where i have to play thane for ONE key id play it for All

[ionic mica]

yeah its too much crit to drop really, just need to bonus roll a pit neck now that i have the crest save

[latent moss]

get salhadaar neck ez

[hybrid needle]

Im rolling in npx for my haste mastery Ring
Sims better now

[reef glade]

man I’m gonna get some random 282 loot in raid vault but don’t think I could take any of it…

belt maybe only thing I’d go for tbh

[ionic mica]

maybe the vault finally gives me it, been locking out for 2 resets

[latent moss]

hi guys im full bis i cant take anything

ahh

im 🥄

[reef glade]

it is a tragic state of affairs

[ionic mica]

not seen a single salad neck drop all tier

any chance the 40s egg makes us worth bringing to beloren?

i assume not lmao

[latent moss]

if colo did st

maybe it would burst

[reef glade]

I mean anyone can bring you to any boss

[ionic mica]

hold BL for execute egg phase

[reef glade]

0 reason to pretend like arms is bad on that boss now

irrelevant dps check and we’re getting buffed a ton

and we’re good on p1

[ionic mica]

yeah idk they want to bench me so it is what it is

[reef glade]

Yea they are dumb then

Unless you are like actually running it down

which is possible

[ionic mica]

pwarr tank back from "baby break" where they played 4 chars all season

[reef glade]

but should not be necessary at all

to kill boss at least

[latent moss]

are u on lura

[ionic mica]

yeah im sure it would be fine if i was in

[reef glade]

ya

[latent moss]

i hope ur execute crit chance is 80%

on ur kill pull

[ionic mica]

but im not gonna win the argument to get in over a ret or ww or rogue

immune cringe boss

[reef glade]

well ww barely different from you

[latent moss]

didnt ww burst explode

[ionic mica]

oh yeah just better egg and they decided to let him be rostered for first time since week 1

i like the ww so i dont mind xD

[reef glade]

yea I mean kinda unfortunate if ur like a trial then by the laws of the world u naturally have less rights than others but if ur a longer stayed member of the guild like over a year id say just kinda cringe/unfortunate but if got no pull with words can only hope to just own on reclears to maybe show em ur a baller next week with buffs and maybe they change their mind, but also if u dont reclear then gg

[ionic mica]

we are both new this season, technically my trial ended a few weeks ago and im full raider

i think they made the choice to bench me for belo a couple of weeks ago and are sticking to it now they told ww he will be in

and they dont need the raidbuff

[reef glade]

yea still fresh off the press I suppose tho but gratz either way

yea I mean it would’ve been more warranted a few weeks ago

we’re def like bottom 2 classes there

but after buff would hope solid middle of the pack ish

considering top performers also nerfed

I think especially if the extra 10 seconds lets u get a 2nd bladestorm off on first egg that’d be massive

[latent moss]

if colo did st it would own

[ionic mica]

2 BS 2 CS would be very nice

[reef glade]

u already got a few seconds of second cs but bladestorm almost impossible

[ionic mica]

particularly if it hits 35% at 30s or something 👀

[reef glade]

I got it once in like 100 pulls

in the 30s

[ionic mica]

2nd cs into execute phase would go hard

[latent moss]

just high roll

[reef glade]

but maybe in 40 u can

[latent moss]

ez

its that simple

[reef glade]

Just get 5 sudden deaths and 5-6 slayers strikes

cluegi

[ionic mica]

tyty

[latent moss]

manaforge 2p

[dim basalt]

obligatory just be like Kha

[reef glade]

literally yes

[ionic mica]

just proc out your ass

[latent moss]

funny how

manaforge 2pc

just makes

slayer infinitely more fun

but they refuse to add it

gg

[ionic mica]

wear alleria neck, reck pot haste, bl, slayer strike every chance you get

[reef glade]

I procced insane on my belo kill with crits whipped out a disgusting 221k dps first egg

literally never done that in my life highest before was 205k with a 2nd bladestorm I believe

but 84% mortal strike crit le funny number

[warped owl]

can relentless pursuit from slayer break gargoyle grip in pit?

Or only is bladestorm the only cleanse

[ionic mica]

it should work with relentless puursuit

[stable fiber]

gulp

[ionic mica]

as the wording on the spell is the same as tigers lust and blessing of freedom "removes movement impairing effects"

but maybe it doesnt 😄

[minor gust]

2pc would be pretty insane with current slayer

[warped owl]

hmm yea was unsure since its hard to pulloff since gargoyle is already in melee so when you get gripped you are in charge deadzone

[ionic mica]

yeah youd need to charge someone on the far side of the pack

[stable fiber]

i wonder if you prepull avatar on beloren

hmm

i think you do

hope for good bs cdr rng so it lines up with the egg

then you can use cds a 2nd time in p1

hmmm

[latent moss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1248022608390393888/1309163778151022652/togif.gif

[stable fiber]

https://tenor.com/view/horse-nodding-yes-gif-17093779070272666336

[latent moss]

https://tenor.com/view/pig-electric-shock-pigman-electrocuted-electric-gif-13739997527188393816

[thick kelp]

didnt they remove

being able to prepull ava etc

[ionic mica]

you can prepull SS

[latent moss]

prolly half assed it

[ionic mica]

idk if it would be in the same category

[stable fiber]

i can check

[dim basalt]

Prepull SS shouldnt work either

[stable fiber]

ss works

[latent moss]

go torghast

get anima powers

[dim basalt]

...it works again?

[latent moss]

get summoned

[stable fiber]

"go torghast"

blow up

[latent moss]

torghast owned

torghast hate is forced

[ionic mica]

i prepull SS alleria for huge gains on those first voidshits

[stable fiber]

not forced that was ass

[ionic mica]

for sure works

[latent moss]

forced!

!!!

[stable fiber]

i prefer delves

[latent moss]

it was ass early on

[dim basalt]

They removed prepull SS in the middle of S2 TWW and now its back out of nowhere or what

I dont get it

[stable fiber]

yup

[latent moss]

was peak while bored gameplay

all they had to do was iterate a bit on it

add new anima powers

[ionic mica]

torg when you arent forced to farm it for resources was banger

[warped owl]

Wait SS prepull in raid works again?

[ionic mica]

or you were unlucky to have a spec with no good powers

[stable fiber]

yes

[latent moss]

only correct take

[warped owl]

since when

[ionic mica]

whirlwind sucking mobs to you was peak

[stable fiber]

since the start of this expansion

[ionic mica]

*on fury

[warped owl]

oh

[latent moss]

ramp casts ww...

[ionic mica]

the dream

vacuum cleaner with a blender inside it

dastardly duo can get in the bin, give us back torg

or w/e the tww boss mode was

[elder sandal]

is slayer arms playable in voidspire next week?

[latent moss]

yes

[elder sandal]

https://klipy.com/gifs/oh-oh-really-7--k01KQTCQ16ZZ48VV99V540PM769

[stable fiber]

it has been for awhile

3 colo bosses 3 slayer bosses

[elder sandal]

im mostly thinking about mythic vanguard and crown

[ionic mica]

crown slayer yes

vanguard colo

[elder sandal]

[ionic mica]

i just looked and there isnt a single slayer arms log in top 100 vanguards all season

but you could be the pioneer

(it will be worse)

[elder sandal]

i thought maybe the buff next week changes anything

[ionic mica]

but it will still be better than plenty of non warrior specs

i was wrong there are actually 5 slayer kills since week1

[ionic mica]

id be very surprised if it became a slayer > colo boss but the gap might close

a bit

[latent moss]

nah no way

[sacred zodiac]

please dont play slayer on paladins

[stable fiber]

what you think

maybe collat is best for padding

or broad strikes

[latent moss]

can u stack it fast enough

[stable fiber]

idk how long the birds live

[latent moss]

oh this is beloren

[stable fiber]

yes

[latent moss]

bro i havent seen

a boss after salhadaar

[stable fiber]

gg

[latent moss]

[stable fiber]

i might be burning the food idk

too much cook

[latent moss]

might raid at the end of tier

[latent moss]

[frail hearth]

changes are tomorrow?

[stable fiber]

yes

[frail hearth]

word

[stable fiber]

imma see if prepull avatar works

[frail hearth]

slayer M+ aw snap

[stable fiber]

prepull avatar works

[ionic mica]

do you want it for timings going into egg on belo?

[stable fiber]

yes

[ionic mica]

mmmm interesting

i shall add it to my folder of "if i get to pull this boss"

[minor gust]

Cleave for belo

With no collat

[stable fiber]

im not sure what is numerically correct

[stable fiber]

its a pad/parse strat

requires some good rng to work perhaps

you would also run some light cleave talents to funnel onto the boss when the birds are alive

slightly worse p2 egg dps

unless you can drag birds on the egg

[thick kelp]

Play colo with powerful

[stable fiber]

colo is too ass on beloren i think

useless unless you can drag 2 bosses on the p2 egg

then you maybe do the same burst as slayer

[thick kelp]

Fishy was doing numbers on it

[stable fiber]

we will reprog a little on beloren maybe since a new comp

oh i might not even be rostered

lmfao

gg

[thick kelp]

gg

[last saddle]

warriorlyfe

[latent moss]

shouldve done more damage on lura

[stable fiber]

i dont think i could have done any more then i did

that was the best rng out of 300 pulls

SD procs and Crits

[latent moss]

not classic

i get worst rng out of 300 pulls

on kill pull

[stable fiber]

well my paladins also my worst

and i havent gotten to rekill it

so it sits on my wcl page

being a ugly number

i cant look at it

[latent moss]

only orange on chim...

[stable fiber]

i do boss damage on chim

only

[latent moss]

boss damage cope...

[candid kindle]

i only have a purp in chim lmfao

[latent moss]

xdd

[candid kindle]

the rest is blues greens and grays in mythic

i tried asking pls can i pad

[wind hatch]

dont even ask

[candid kindle]

hard to do with 2-3 ddh's 2 hunts and a spriest

[wind hatch]

just pad

like a sigma

[candid kindle]

i do

but

[latent moss]

just go full st like a true sigma

[tall citrus]

https://tenor.com/view/i-play-wow-jace-hall-gif-26175799

[candid kindle]

shit just spawns and dies

[latent moss]

dont listen to pad cope

full boss dam

[wind hatch]

❌

[latent moss]

pad is high cortisol

[wind hatch]

wcl number is all that matters

[candid kindle]

i dont agree

[latent moss]

"umm can i use my cds now or do i have to hold for adds" = high cortisol

"i send on cd on boss" = low cortisol

[candid kindle]

wcl numbers make ppl do stupid selfish shit

counterproductive to prog

[wind hatch]

this is kinda true actually

[candid kindle]

based gigachad

[wind hatch]

wtf