arms

[spice epoch]

Oooh haha

[somber wave]

in m+ build do you ever cleave on 1 target? if you have a proc or during ravager maybe?

[crude knot]

how does arms get funnel ?

[thick kelp]

Fervor of battle + increased demolish CDR when having 2+ targetes

[warped owl]

Cleave extending Colo smash through tier set too

[slow saddle]

On 3

Is mad

[somber wave]

so do we only cleave on 3+ targets in m+?

[latent moss]

y

on 2t with collateral damage stacked

[hollow sage]

Hey all - new to this as I was playing prot. Swapped to arms and I’m at 272 ilvl. What kind of DPS should I be pulling single target and aoe in m+?

[soft peak]

Theres no exact number, it depends on what stats you have trinkets etv

[hollow sage]

https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/moon-guard/pullsmore/

Sorry- just trying to get a ballpark because I don’t think I’m where I should be

[sudden owl]

What are u at

Quick simming your guy on raidbots will be close to what you should do in a raid group with all buffs

[hollow sage]

Ahh raidbots - alright I’ll try that out!

Well not sure on AOE but I’m like 17k below where I should be on single target - thanks for the suggestion

[sullen stirrup]

Check out wowhead for the guides on warrior, unless your armory isn’t updated you do not have any crafted embellishments.

[delicate mulch]

with buffs will arms slayer be better then colo in m+?

[slow saddle]

No

Its opposite most likely still

[delicate mulch]

rip

[slow saddle]

Who cares

It might be better in pugs

[delicate mulch]

me thats why i asked lol

[slow saddle]

Just play it

Wednesday. Id say in m+ pugs with low funnel, theres a chance it at least may be qol improvement

Better boss dmg and such

But deffo less aoe ofc🤣

And less 2t // 3t dmg

[untold pewter]

Do we actually still cleave on 2 targets with collateral or do we prio slam because of MW?

Keep seeing people say this but did it not change with .5?

I thought we no longer care about cleave for 1-2 targets despite collateral stacks

[soft peak]

what talents are you rolling at m+?

[wraith lichen]

I do it at max stacks

[rancid robin]

Sry for the brightness, my screen are fcked up

CcEAjLzRlq54bI5v+r8Sr9Xw4jZmxsMzMzYGAAAghphZGmZzMzMzYmxMDAAAAgxmZgtYAbmxwCMwMajGDWAzM2GGMbmtBzMAAmhB

[unborn patrol]

Anyone happen to know if you can do your voidcore roll as (e.g.) arms, and then switch to prot to loot the chest?

[covert patrol]

maybe, but you could definitely do the reverse

you can switch freely before rolling. unsure about the chest

[harsh depot]

hi guys do you always cast colussus smash before demolish or no?

[ebon tendon]

can we get a sunglasses warning next time pls and ty

[toxic socket]

what is the best best m+ spec/hero talent atm?

[vocal flicker]

ddh udk aug dlock

[toxic socket]

on warriors of course..

[wintry dome]

• ret?

[ionic mica]

colossus

but you can play slayer if you hate colo

[frail hearth]

Slayer is bad till Tuesday.

[warped owl]

Slayer can still keep up in 17s and 18s

[pliant crypt]

i think for fury is good buff but for arms it will be very little different still arms needs rework special to pvp

[last birch]

wowanalyzer and wowhead shows 2 different prio lists - which one should i follow

[dusty gazelle]

Thanks.

[cosmic creek]

anyone got sims for post buff?

[elder path]

99 percent sure your loot is generated the moment the key is done. Before you even loot the chest you can get Champion/Hero of the Dawn achievement because the game knows you got a piece of loot that brings you over the threshold

[crystal rain]

do we care about the ring set bonus our should i swap the light one for pit ring

[reef glade]

[sacred zodiac]

to add ontop of what that guy said, your m+ chest is rolled on key completion but your bonusroll is decided when you click the button

[sacred zodiac]

sim it

[tropic magnet]

any videos or guide on taunt reflect where can i find guys ?

[tight basin]

So after reset will slayer be viable or better than col?

[glacial ore]

Is slayer will be over Col as arms again ? Or atleast equal thing ?

Hate col :x

[icy mulch]

These mythic item rerolls have been pretty damn nice. So far of the 4 that I've used, only 1 was kind of a dud. Weapon, neck, ring, and cloak, all from Pit so far.

[ionic mica]

there is a list of spell reflects on maxroll pinned in prot channel, the only taunt reflect video i have noticed is the last 2 bosses in Seat in a Biz video

[clever crag]

Not in m+

only they keys it did good on

Skyreach,aa

[icy mulch]

And that's only because every boss is ST

[delicate mulch]

what are people using for party CD tracker

[undone aurora]

is there a list somewhere that shows every spec that benefits from battle shout

some are clear like hunter etc

but others im like

does unholy?

does ret?

dh?

[nova marsh]

Any spec that uses strength or agility

[undone aurora]

so enh shaman too?

[nova marsh]

Shout isnt buffing a specfic damage type, its buffing a stat

Yes

[undone aurora]

oh cool

[nova marsh]

Literally evrey melee + hunter

[undone aurora]

oh nice

[nova marsh]

Its why bshout is arguably nore valuable then monk debuff

(Or was at some points)

Like shadowlands

Cuz evreyone did tons of magic damage in shadowlands lowkey

[grim oasis]

everyone still kinda does outside of a few edge cases

[nova marsh]

Warrior, outlaw...kind of enhanxe as totemic I think? Feral

Bm

[ionic mica]

totemic would be still a lot of magic damage

the only phys things are sundering and the totem

[nova marsh]

Is sundering still like half ur aoe damage?

[ionic mica]

yeah a lot of the aoe is sundering and totem

but once you add enough targets flametoungue procs start going crazy

[nova marsh]

Oh true they always did

[ionic mica]

hunter phys vs magic tends to depend a lot on how much damage their hero talents do

[nova marsh]

I haven't played enhance since tww s2

[ionic mica]

dark ranger and sentinel sometimes just become all magic damage

[nova marsh]

Oh

[ionic mica]

there have been times where phys specs are just arms fury outlaw surv feral

[nova marsh]

Didnt know that actually

....dosent survival do fire damage

[ionic mica]

i think they arent so skewed at the moment but dark ranger in tww was just all black arrow shadow damage

yeahy but also a lot of phys i think

depends on aoe vs st probably

might give surv a go not tried it in a while

pack leader dagger man sounds funny

[nova marsh]

I might go survival as my second character next tier

Over rogue

[ionic mica]

but then you wont be rogue guy

[nova marsh]

Honesty

If trickster stays next season for law

Im not playing it

[ionic mica]

rogue in general seems like it managed to draw 3 bad hero talents

[nova marsh]

I think fatebound on law feels good

Never played stalker

Trickster on sub is okay

Its just the cloud sucks

But I can live with cloud

But

Spending at 6 for outlaw and cloud + killing spree is actually awful

[late lantern]

Will Arms Colossus still be best in M+ after the buffs?

[paper gulch]

Nope F tier

[nova marsh]

Yes, expect slayer to be a good pick for dungeons like reach, aa

[late lantern]

Cool

[nova marsh]

You can reasonable play slayer if y want

It was already competitive with other classes but now its better and absolutely a good pick for the no funnel dungeons

Or if ur in low key hell with tanks who dont funnel

[balmy kindle]

certainly be interesting to try slayer in new patch kek

[nova marsh]

Honestly happy its back

[languid torrent]

i just like the ability to swap between the two with different dungeons

[nova marsh]

Also

The last boss fury tech in seat will be even better now

[languid torrent]

like i love slayer more in like MT and nexus but youll pry colossus outta my cold dead hands for pit

[nova marsh]

I like slayer in aa

The prio is still pretty good with unhinged

[languid torrent]

ive honestly found slayer way more enjoyable in AA too

you cant really pull mobs onto the boss and the only boss thats like fun with it is tree

[grim oasis]

sub is also all physical now

except blades amp

[nova marsh]

Ehhh kinda

Assa is like shadow and nature?

[grim oasis]

assa is mostly nature

bleeds are phys ig

[dapper scroll]

can any1 tell me the correct rotation/prior skills for arms ? im a fury main but wanna try arms as well

[languid torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/made-up-making-things-up-misinformation-spreading-misinformation-lying-gif-5615616319157116451

[grim oasis]

its just shadow blades and the apex right

its majority physical i think

[languid torrent]

no clue

[grim oasis]

war got 8 ilvls this morning

hit every pit of saron roll

its fate

[languid torrent]

i hope you succeed in life and eventually have nothing left to live for

[olive nest]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/8dgHwdsHGFWG38fKRCJKfg
ez 100k with next weeks crests
@latent moss

(well nevermind the tuning buffs kek)

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kuHXk9aQGc3gymX5reGxRB

assuming I take socket from vault

only way thats not true is if gloves are in there

[reef glade]

100k vantus

[olive nest]

yuh

[mortal crag]

yay! we can finally reach 100k

on another note, some classes reach 130-140k 🙂

[thick kelp]

ok whos alleria timings can I steal

[languid torrent]

after the nerf shits gonna be SOO much different

they kinda gutted that boss

[thick kelp]

Good thing im progging pre nerf

for 2h more

[languid torrent]

like fresh prog?

[thick kelp]

yeah

hella fresh

[languid torrent]

yea just yolo it

lol

[latent moss]

is this with new tuning

[olive nest]

oh true i didnt sim with mimron

higher with mimron

surely

[languid torrent]

the dps check is pretty tight in p1. and youll probably spend most of that 2 hours learning movement.

[thick kelp]

dont need mimiron

[thick kelp]

I will own

P1

alone

[olive nest]

does latest use the buffs?

[thick kelp]

400k dps minimum

[languid torrent]

you know what

[thick kelp]

not before weekly reset

[languid torrent]

i believe it

[olive nest]

right

[wind hatch]

shirly has a good video for it

[olive nest]

so i just simmed with latest, which doesnt have the buffs next week

[thick kelp]

Not watching him after that nexus king guide

boss 4% -> ava bs cs small balls

[thick kelp]

Try with

# execute
override.spell_data=effect.486196.ap_coefficient=2.421252
# overpower
override.spell_data=effect.2780.ap_coefficient=3.85614
# reap
override.spell_data=effect.1143165.ap_coefficient=7.719088
# slayers strike
override.spell_data=effect.1142515.ap_coefficient=8.4042 ```

[wind hatch]

problem?

[thick kelp]

in expert mode base player customization

[latent moss]

ye 100k low

[thick kelp]

Already carried prot pala damage on paladins

[olive nest]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5jNUR4kZ1kQ1i2TAV26Ew1

thats better

[latent moss]

hoooly

[flat willow]

who is the highest single target after patch

surely not still unholy

[olive nest]

def unholy

xddd

[thick kelp]

Fuark

R11 on paladins

[wicked aurora]

where do I paste this?

[wicked aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/salute-captain-america-chris-evans-my-work-here-is-done-thank-you-gif-1405615095296157354

[wicked aurora]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ocUox9y3VoyUSH9wNTysgn

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/aF7DLJu9Sn9S3ixPRdp4i1

sheeesh huge gains

[silk marten]

With the upcoming tuning changes, will arms still be the go-to for m+?

[wicked aurora]

idk bro how much is fury doing overall in keys rn?

[olive nest]

you can really play whatever you want

[silk marten]

Statistically not better than Arms, but based on the announcement It seems like Fury is gaining about a 6-8% increase in MT while Arms is gaining a 2-4% increase.

[blazing holly]

Is cleave a cast in the front of me?

or is it aoe

[thick kelp]

160 cone infront of u

[blazing holly]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1205267724696031273/1407563922780717130/sideyeing.gif

[silk marten]

and since they're different stat weights. Crit > Haste versus Mastery > Haste - trying to decide which boes I should invest in.

[thick kelp]

Check what they cata into

Most of them cata into crit haste

[blazing holly]

on vanguards

is cleave low prio when only 2 bosse are available?

[thick kelp]

yes

rotation page on wowhead tells when

[silk marten]

I know the chest is whatever, thats going to be cata'd into tier. For example, the boots cata into Crit/Mast which is listed as bis for Fury, but bis for Arms are the chim boots. Maybe I just buy 2 boe boots, cata one and keep the other one Mastery>Haste

[thick kelp]

stats dont matter this much to buy 2 for diff specs

[wicked aurora]

So if you know the rough percents you can apply that to your overalls....

so if we use the average, arms goes up to 147.6k and fury goes to 137.1k

[dim basalt]

Theres so much wrong with this table

[wicked aurora]

it's just an average of logs

[dim basalt]

ye but not separating hero specs is whack

[wicked aurora]

I agree but at the same token how many fury/arms boys are playing slayer in 16+?

[dim basalt]

With how easy 16s are this season prob still a bunch

[wicked aurora]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[dim basalt]

And for Arms?

[wicked aurora]

99% colo lol

[dim basalt]

nvm

I defo expected more Slayers

Frozen is the 1%

[wicked aurora]

granted this is not the whole data they're using for the previous graph

this is 18-21 for fury and 19-22 for arms

and the graph is 16-22

so

[dim basalt]

ah well

Who the hell played Slayer in 19+ lol

[fresh spire]

bozo

[wicked aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/ben-kenobi-hes-me-gif-23727931

[fresh spire]

[wicked aurora]

jk

[dim basalt]

Frozen doesnt play 19s tho no?

[wicked aurora]

I wish it was me

[fresh spire]

🤷‍♂️

[empty sluice]

that was me

[dim basalt]

Maybe Biz or Crit for testing right after patch

[wicked aurora]

either way it's imperfect data but it does give you enough to go on to figure that fury is not going to overtake arms for keys

neither in the avg or the top performance

[weary storm]

Hi y‘all

hope you‘re doing fine

I have one question: I started playing my orc arms warrior and there is no sound for my mortal strike, overpower and execute. It works perfectly fine for my other warrior races but only not for orcs. does someone have similar issues and what did you do to fix the issue? There is also a post on the blizzard forum about this so it does seem to be some kind of bug

[wicked aurora]

Time to smoke some chicken @olive nest

[minor gust]

I haven't done a 19 yet no. Haven't played much recently

[olive nest]

Yoo that looks delicious!! 🔥

Spare ribs going on the grill today over here

[wicked aurora]

nice

[minor gust]

Most people are just followers that's why you are pretty much just gonna see Colo. I guarantee you if Biz did 1 slayer key and said yeah slayer still good you would see more slayer players.

[wicked aurora]

I have a bunch of drumettes and flats too but just not enough space so they'll go on later

I saw that

[barren finch]

I timed a 20 AA with slayer, dmg wasnt that good tho

[minor gust]

You still timed tho so like who cares

Slayer will be a lil better on reset at least

[thick kelp]

"timed"

[barren finch]

Well it is timed lol

[olive nest]

[minor gust]

Damn bro Walhe stalking your ass

[olive nest]

Bro was checking the deats

[thick kelp]

I will be fact checking

[ionic reef]

With the slayer arms buffs will slayer be good in m+ again?

[upbeat mountain]

yo team what if sudden death procs worked with 4 set woudl that be crazy op or just a good change?

[minor gust]

Walhe number one slayer hater will not accept any slayer success story

[thick kelp]

I will accept it once it does real aoe

[minor gust]

Maybe next expansion it will

[thick kelp]

even this guys timed 19 is as colossus

smh

straight up bullshitting

[minor gust]

Before 12.05 was the closest slayer ever was to Colo in keys

[barren finch]

You want the log from the 20 as slayer?

[thick kelp]

Sure

rio isnt uptodate then

[barren finch]

Its straight up gargbage dmg tho

[thick kelp]

yeah no shit

[minor gust]

Send it I'm curious too. Cuz in my experience slayer dmg ain't garbage

It ain't good but not garbage

[thick kelp]

YOu lose by like 600k dps on the first pull

to any real spec

[minor gust]

Tbf Colo loses to any spec in that first pull too

[thick kelp]

Only seen it lose vs uh or feral

but UH without aug its

[barren finch]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/2XFTn6DtdMLWRGJP?fight=1&type=damage-done

[thick kelp]

50/50

[upbeat mountain]

lol

[thick kelp]

150k

holy

[minor gust]

150 is crazy low wtf

[thick kelp]

your 1st pull is big ?

Surely you would peak higher than 400k

[minor gust]

I've done 170 in AA as slayer

[hushed patrol]

this is because algethar academy timer has been increased to 31 isnt it

[barren finch]

It was def higher than 400k idk

[thick kelp]

had to zoom in to find the 1milly peak

mb

[minor gust]

Thing that sucks for first pull AA as slayer is it's hard to pre stack ID because first pull takes forever to get together

[thick kelp]

Yeah you just gotta pray you get early SD to extend it till its together

if you prestack ID

[minor gust]

Yeah

[barren finch]

I didnt even bother i just wanted to try slayer in a 20

[minor gust]

Fair

[thick kelp]

but your Crawth dps is

low

asf

[minor gust]

Prob shit rng

[thick kelp]

86k is like colossus number

on that boss

[barren finch]

Yeah might be shit rng or i just played like shit i cant remember

[minor gust]

But still that's a timed 20 as slayer

Respect

🫡

[barren finch]

Will be better wednesday, slayer is just more fun for me

[thick kelp]

Slayers more fun for most people

[minor gust]

Same. Colo is annoying piece of shit to play

While slayer is relaxing

[silk spade]

real

[thick kelp]

I despise slayer

cant stand the rng

[minor gust]

Only thing that sucks about slayer is rng

[thick kelp]

1min BS cd or 30s CD

cant decide

[minor gust]

Yeah

[barren finch]

I wouldnt mind it so much if they increased the colossas might timer

[minor gust]

But besides that slayer is a vibe and I love it

[mortal crag]

even i timed 19s

crazy stuff

also slayer is incredibly fun and i cant wait to play it in keys without funnel

[minor gust]

Slayer has funnel too

[mortal crag]

30s bs = OMG YAY SLAYER YIPPEE

[minor gust]

Just not as much

[mortal crag]

1min bs = I WANT TO NOT PLAY THIS GAME

[thick kelp]

realeast

[mortal crag]

yeah but i mean, u play slayer cuz u want more st

😛

[minor gust]

Yeah

[mortal crag]

so if u have funnel u might as well colo

[minor gust]

It's gonna do good ST too with new slayer build

More than 100k sims

[mortal crag]

hows the aoe tho

how behind is it

to colo

colo still peak aoe on all iterations of warr no?

[minor gust]

Only 17% behind compared to what 25% before buffs

[minor gust]

Nah thane is

[mortal crag]

srs?

fury is bis now?

[minor gust]

From Sims I've seen. Real keys is different tho

Sims also aren't finished

[mortal crag]

i mean

my colo 10t 1min sims

same as my fury

but in actual key

it aint even close

[minor gust]

Yeah hence why simming for M+ is stupid at times

[mortal crag]

ye

ofc

uptime destroys both specs

etc

fury aoe is more pad too imo

like tclap spam

[thick kelp]

colo 10t 1min is like 700k

slayer 10t 1min is 500k

colo is like 81k ST vs slayer 100k ST in m+ build

assuming raidbuffs

[minor gust]

Oh yeah well I'm just gonna get insane SD and reap procs and do 800k

You can't stop me

[mortal crag]

go slayer > proc two SDs in 50 seconds > bladestorm ONCE in 2 pulls > reroll dk

https://klipy.com/gifs/lil-b-based-1--k01KQQQDNZXX1R9Y69FRMSN6F6Q

[empty sluice]

said warrior who didnt play slayer

[minor gust]

In my experience as slayer with how much dmg BS does sometimes it's not a good idea to send that 2nd bladestorm if it's almost dead. Especially if next pull is gonna be big

[vast helm]

this the problem now, at the beginning of the season DW becomes a pool, so they remove the DW from BS and Ravager, and now cleave no longer trigger DW, i think they really need to add DW to BS and Ravager back , at least we'll feel more powerful to use a 60 sec or 90 sec bs & rav .

[dim basalt]

Thats why I like col more

[rare kite]

bladestorm already fucks tho. it does alot of damage

[wicked aurora]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-more-gif-21856591

[thick kelp]

https://tenor.com/view/dumbo-t1-lol-league-of-legends-esports-gif-15310081642824361258

[minor gust]

It's just more of a thing if next pull is big and has smallies that will die quick you want to be able to BS them. I made a mistake in a MT sent BS at the end of 3rd boss to finish and didn't have it for the massive pull after which killed my overall

I love this breakdown

[empty sluice]

u can do 19/20s as slarms without problems, its just comunity issue

[nova briar]

Is arms better on higher keys? On 15-16s i feel like i do less damage

Does it depend a lot if ads live longer?

[tough gulch]

Anyone tried simming and playing around with the Loa Worshipper Band? Is it just bad? It doesnt sim to bad on my guy but I couldnt find much with google

[slender sonnet]

paladins is crazy

[winged phoenix]

Male Orc sounds still broken?

[humble grotto]

How do I fix the auto-swap equipment when I want the offhand to go in my mainhand from Fury to Arms? I have 289 + 285 and want the 285 for the embellishment but it trhwos an error and I forget to swap sometimes

Does anyone have a solution?

[thorn stream]

[minor gust]

There is none unfortunately besides just don't play fury

[humble grotto]

ty

[minor gust]

It is very annoying tho

[wind hatch]

if you're doing less damage its most likely just because you're less familiar with the spec

[mortal crag]

@minor gust currently noxiv sims higher than deepps

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/1irKScuTUv5bh3ekdbHmST

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/a217KRjSDzGio3p3gsJ2tX

[minor gust]

1ilvl diff clearly

[mortal crag]

but we all know the overall gap in keys

SUERLY

with BL its 660k vs 630k btw

prio dam is 100k for arms and 90k for fury, with bl making it 146k and 110k respectively

the big gap comes in the fact that arms just ALWAYS does that damage

*mechanically

like, u dont need procs or anything

colo is just bonk

[minor gust]

[teal junco]

Hey guys! Am I aloud to play fury now?!

[mortal crag]

ur always allowed

i timed AA19 as fury

[minor gust]

Should ask in the fury channel

[mortal crag]

didnt have fun but i did it

also timed it on 20 as arms

colo 100k damage to bird btw

ETA GG

[teal junco]

I’m so tilted from colo, it must be a stat thing, i can never get two demolishes in my CS

And every thing just gets desynced

[minor gust]

Did u use the Colo MP build for that or did you just Crit everything?

[vast helm]

[mortal crag]

MP?

ah yeah

i did

[mortal crag]

mortal strike can get you literally -20s off your demolish if u crit on sweeps

[flat willow]

I'm gonna play slayer in every key next week

[teal junco]

Yeah I literally know that, what does that have to do with what I said

[mortal crag]

that u maybe can prioritize more MS to get more demolish

but it shouldnt be a big deal

[flat willow]

maybe not pit

[mortal crag]

u semi-rarely get 2 demolishes in one CS

outside of BL

(possible but u just gotta get mega crits)

[languid torrent]

slam too high

[teal junco]

So what happens when you don’t, do you just send demolish after the CS runs out?

[wind hatch]

if cs cooldown is > 10 seconds, just send demolish on aoe

[mortal crag]

yeah

[teal junco]

Aight

[mortal crag]

i kinda like to send it at 12+s tbf

but

u can do it on 10

[soft venture]

Use MS a bit more with sweeping and it’ll happen, more crit too so u can get 4 stacks per MS more often

[uneven sandal]

Hey , do we plan to play slayer on council after the buff ?

[minor gust]

No

[uneven sandal]

Okayy

[uneven sandal]

i'm new on that , but if u crit on MS you get your demolish comeback way faster ? because u spend more rage so the AM effect is better ?

[wind hatch]

demolish isnt tied to AM

Mortal strike and cleave both give one stack of colossal might (2 on crit) but mortal strike can hit 2 targets with sweeping strikes which is 4 stacks total

each stack is 5 secs cdr if you already have 10 stacks

[nova marsh]

Paladins is just the most colossus fight ever created

[uneven sandal]

thanks you , both

[wintry scroll]

this bullshit is bugged btw

it ninja pulls

I was like wtf is that random yellow bolt pulling enemies

then i go and hit dummies and it starts coming out

and this is the only explanation

[candid pecan]

BRO your profile picture

but ty, good to know that the ring combo ninjapulls, that's very bad

[cedar cairn]

Hell yea, hate being reliant on tank funnel

[mortal crag]

Pretty sure cleave is always one

[wintry scroll]

Ty

[paper gulch]

Doesn’t mortal strike critting give you 2 stacks

[wintry scroll]

It’s a classic

I’ve had it since 2016

[wind hatch]

yeah

[viscid fossil]

can you target a mob, equip to set and see if it fires

and if it works from 50 yards

[wintry scroll]

Idk tbh i was on monk and i was pulling and i saw a yellow ball fly from far away and pull like 3 extra mobs

[viscid fossil]

there has been a case where equipping a set would fire off an effect

[wintry scroll]

I was next to them but didn’t pull them in seat and then a ball came out from me and pulled

I was like 20 yards away

Or 30

[viscid fossil]

it worked on the gryphon, you could target enemy faction player from the air and kill them lol

lowbies that is

[wintry scroll]

Anyway it’s just good to know you have to be extremly unlucky for it to ninja pull

But if it does now you know who to blame

[ionic reef]

So after patch it's colo for m+ and slayer for raid?

[frail hearth]

Not sure yet. Slayer might be playable in M+ now. We will see

[stiff kettle]

The thought of never having to Press Ravager has me salivating

[granite night]

why do some arms warriors go into a pull with d stance while stacking col might ?

is it a threat thing ?

[mild sierra]

less threat built, less dmg taken if u do rip threat ig

[fervent obsidian]

hey peeps
is Slayer gonna be even remotely competitive with Colo in M+ come reset?

[rose matrix]

Probably not

Maybe in a dungeon like AA

[fervent obsidian]

dang
tbh I am already doing way better with slayer than colo, but that's a personal skill issue I assume

[vast hinge]

did a MT +18 today on my alt arms with our guild group

Tank types ?? After the 2nd boss where there was no funnel

I looked at dps, I did 51k he did 53k lmfao, nothing I did was wrong

[warped owl]

Could be comp dependent, if your comp already got lots of aoe and bad ST it’s good

[spark mango]

if i start with 10 stacks on boss with all my cds really without funnel i end up doing like 70

but i've seen 50-55k on St as colossus aswell

[fervent obsidian]

cool cool

[inner panther]

Is it me or is warrior just downright dogshit? Compared to my alts, the dmg is atrocious even at 280

In raid this is

M+ colo is fine

[minor gust]

raid is a combo of poor tuning and fight design

[inner panther]

Like its actually embarrassing playing it outside of like 1-2 bosses

Bring back tomb of sargeras arms

[vast hinge]

I run with a bunch of dks and dhs and augs in keys

And colo does NOT look ok lol

[inner panther]

Well i meant ok as in…yeah it OKAY

[vast hinge]

In AA I get gapped like 60k overall by them

[inner panther]

Not good by any stretch

[vast hinge]

It’s so comp dependent, your basically forced to run with a shaman and can’t have a Aug in group

[inner panther]

I only care for raid nowadays. Burned out of m+ from tww

And warr is NOT good in raid it seems

[vast hinge]

Will be good next week atleast in raid

The buffs are more raid targeted

[inner panther]

Cant see such a small buff making it good tho

Itll still be average at best

[vast hinge]

? It’s like 8% ST and AOE

[wind hatch]

8% isnt really small

[vast hinge]

That’s not a small buff by any means

[inner panther]

Maybe we are significantly further behind than 8% then

Feels that way

[vast hinge]

I think we’re middle of the pack without huffs

[wind hatch]

i keep up in raid on most fights just fine tbh

[vast hinge]

And next week all the top specs get merged

Nerfed

While we get buffed

[inner panther]

I obliterate my arms dps on my havoc ret and even now my frost dk

[vast hinge]

Is this in mythic?

[inner panther]

I gotta be doing something wrong despite literally doing exactly as the prio says

[vast hinge]

Cus there shouldn’t ever be a havoc or FDK in mythic

[inner panther]

I main havoc and frost in one of my alts

Refuse to play devourer. Its soul destroying lol

[vast hinge]

Your guild is trolling to even consider havoc and frost, my guild lead wouldve bench those classes and forced a reroll in week 1

[inner panther]

Good thing im not in your guild then lol 🤣

I do just fine on havoc

[vast hinge]

Just fine is like missing 20% dps compared to the other spec lmao

If your pushing CE that shit matters

[inner panther]

Playing devourer would make me quit the game

[vast hinge]

If your just clearing heroic then it’s W/E you could pilot a potato and it’s fine

[reef glade]

i mean no boss at this point matters what spec u bring

[inner panther]

Average myth guild. Only 4/9

[reef glade]

and while sure dev better than havoc pretty sure havoc still was better than dps warr

so bringing a warr trolling then?

yea i mean doesnt matter what u play in guild like that just ball

[inner panther]

Pretty sure shad plays havoc in lura myth

[warped owl]

Still need shout tho, havoc relies on shout soo

[vast hinge]

Our main issue is we have a roster of 23

And anything off meta vets benched lmao

[inner panther]

Warr has raid buff, HAVE to have 1 lol

[warped owl]

Prob already got a dh for brand

[inner panther]

Yeah too tryhard for me. Those days are behind me

Havoc when played well flies under the radar cuz devourer is just so overtuned

Hopefully uh gets gutted even more and we get frost meta again. Way more fun to play

[vast hinge]

Plying havoc right now is as troll as playing single minded fury last xpac, given it’s the same class

[inner panther]

Depends

[vast hinge]

The difference is so staggering Lol

[inner panther]

Theres some shit devourers out there

In fact id say most are bad

Its a surprisingly high skill cap spec for such a braindead rotation

[reef glade]

they seem pretty close together on vorasius

[vast hinge]

Yeah but at mythic raid level, even for a guild that’s doing 3/9 prog, players are probably decent enough

[leaden garnet]

[vast hinge]

I’ve found that devourers are all shit at like 16keys or below

[leaden garnet]

No. What you're looking at is 17k parses vs 3k parses

[vast hinge]

When you get to 19keys the devour players obliterate us lol

[reef glade]

dang havoc better on mythic lura??? only 5 logs??

or all turbo pad hmm

[leaden garnet]

The people playing fotm Devo are not all dedicated mains

The people insisting on sticking to Havoc are dedicated mains

[inner panther]

Shad thinks its significantly better on lura

[vast hinge]

Like literally they’ve been out for one patch

[leaden garnet]

Despite that, Devo is still strictly ahead

[inner panther]

Devo is just aids. Plays horribly and is just overtuned af

[vast hinge]

Pretty sure a devo on one button rotation would outdps arms

On ST

[inner panther]

Ofc lol

Warr is just in a diff league atm

Which is sad

Cuz i mained warr for a good few expacs

I have faith tho

Shit always comes back around

[tight basin]

Anyone has a good tip on how to deal more ST in higher keys, skyreach first boss for example, reaching 55-60k there pure single target with no Bl is struggle

in like+17-18 keys

[inner panther]

Reroll 🤣

[steep escarp]

^

[inner panther]

Bring adds onto voss

Boss*

somehow

[vast hinge]

I struggle to even live on that boss

[rancid willow]

Looking for some 1-on-1 coaching. I feel like I suck so freaking bad at Warrior.

[wind hatch]

colo st is just bad unfortunately, only thing you can do is maybe have your tank bring adds onto boss if applicable for funnel

[vast hinge]

Instinct charge when getting knocked back

[reef glade]

pretty certain one of the 60 dev logs on lura are as good as the best havoc player thats been playing for so long, it literally just is like a 3 button spec

[steep escarp]

Can snap for that boss if you have an aug

[reef glade]

and if the best havoc log is like 30k dps higher than the best dev log

i think we blowing out of proportion how bad havoc is

ofc sample size 5 maybe they are the 5 biggest padders in the world and no one else does aoe in their kills

[steep escarp]

I love havoc

[inner panther]

Havoc is not down bad

[steep escarp]

Dev is stinky

[inner panther]

But it is a bit compared to dev

But everything is down bad compared to dev

Because its blizzs new baby

Has to be broken

Cant have people not playing new spec

Imagine no one played it in mdi

Would be huge failure

[steep escarp]

Consume, consume, consume, consume, consume

[hybrid needle]

Meteor, meteor, meteor, meteor

[steep escarp]

Their meta window is pretty cool yeah

[inner panther]

Its just too un engaging

I HATE standing still to cast…even eyebeam upsets me

Imo dev is just giga lazy design

[steep escarp]

I feel like the play style of it doesn’t match the flashy nature of DH at all

[inner panther]

Couldnt figure out how to make it cool and fluid so they just made it op af

Dev seems more like a warlock pet

[stable fiber]

this is lowkey cope

[steep escarp]

Sad part is i think they could have made that spec bad ass

[inner panther]

Just heavily rework the other hero tree

Could save it

[steep escarp]

And it released flaccid from a playstyle PoV in my opinion

[inner panther]

Like i get void ray but cmon, couldve at least been adventurous

[stable fiber]

idk i think it plays sick asf

[frail hearth]

Bruh devour is a dogshit spec what? Its going to get nerfed. Havoc is just better. Aint no 20%. Its just the flavor of the month. Lets talk next season.

[stable fiber]

devourer is better then havoc

[frail hearth]

Dreams are real i guess

[stable fiber]

its very cope to say its the other way around right now

on some bosses in raid havoc is certainly better though

l'ura is a example

[frail hearth]

It’s not cope. It’s an opinion. People just play it till it’s nerfed to the ground.

[reef glade]

its definitely not better and probably still wont be dev only gettin like 5%ish nerf

but like its also wrong to say havoc is complete donkey dogshit

[stable fiber]

^

[reef glade]

ppl are clearly very close to dev dps on most bosses

as havoc

[stable fiber]

its not a opinion though, its just better dps wise on a lot of fights

and its ranged

[reef glade]

havoc randomly seems like 10-15% better on lura but maybe its the 5 best havoc players in the world

and they get to pad more or something

[stable fiber]

they go crazy in p1

[worthy lava]

will it be more colossus or slayer next week? are the slayer buffs high enough to take it?

[stable fiber]

and then have better boss damage because dev needs to take a talent that hurts their st on that boss

[frail hearth]

And its stupid. Unless they do the hybrid play-style. Then it’s cool. Pretty sick.

But otherwise its lame. It’ll get tuned. It’s dmg profile is terrible. I understand its doing more damage now if you play it right but jesus is the profile god awful. But w/e lol not my problem

[steep escarp]

It seems to be pretty polarizing in that aspect. Some people love it, others hate it. I’m personally really not a fan but I’m glad the spec is enjoyable for a lot of folks.

[wind hatch]

the only keys that i can potentially see people playing slayer on are aa and skyreach

[quartz adder]

Im curious, when playing Colossus, when do we find urself press Execute? i rather slam right?

[dark minnow]

do we play slayer tuesday?

[wind hatch]

only when you have sd proc

otherwise its just too much rage

[quartz adder]

So it has highest prio when we have a SD proc?

should be used at once?

[nova marsh]

No

SD proc is just prio over slam

[quartz adder]

ok, sub 30% then?

[nova marsh]

Nope

Don't press exe unless you have SD and nothing else to press

If u use exe with rage you risk starving yourself

• slam also gives deep wounds for colo, and exe dosen't

[vast hinge]

Does this change next reset with +20% exec dam?

[boreal torrent]

So for clarification for pressing execute as slayer. We go two and the ms, and then op if need rage right?

[nova marsh]

Likely not

Even with more damage, rage is still the issue

[quartz adder]

What is best, i see some arms playing Overpower finish + Martial prowess, and some playing powerful momentum + mass execution. idk which build to roll i M+? Sorry, new to warrior here 😄

[nova marsh]

use OP and MP if you want more ST and you know you won't get funnel as colo

Powerful and mass are non-negoationable for seat thou

[visual otter]

with the change to dominance reducing demo cooldown by 5 seconds, i was hearing that we are meant to try and cast demo twice within the same colossus smash window but i cant seem to make that possible... Is it luck based on crits and colossal might stacks or do we change gameplay to force it somehow?

[nova marsh]

Mostly luck based in lust

if you can do it that's great

if you can't, that's fine

[visual otter]

okay, just wanted to make sure i wasnt misplaying really badly otherwise. thanks

[quartz adder]

Thanks alot!

[viscid flume]

anyone have that gif of the discord being spammed with rip arms

[reef glade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898720803586048/1402024314978439373/Doom_Gif_2.0.gif

[viscid flume]

thank you

[lusty wigeon]

Just swapped from prot to arms cause I wanted to play dps for a bit. Tried target dummies to figure out the rotation. Is it normal for my single target rotation to be around 30k and my aoe 120k..?

[hybrid needle]

Well.. what itemlevel and stats are you rocking

[lusty wigeon]

Uhh I'm only about 245 or so with mostly trash stats but I was just curious about the huge difference really

[hybrid needle]

Oh yeah the gap is normal.
Your singletarget in colossus will be low. Youll battle the Tanks for 3rd place in dps from time to time

[brave silo]

You can also just sim yourself I suppose. See what the robot reckons you should be doing in an ideal scenario

[hybrid needle]

The point we Excel in is Constant good cleave and funnel damage. But.. yeah. ST just dont look at the Meter

[lusty wigeon]

That's fair. I'm assuming slayer, in return, is bad at multi target?

[reef glade]

not as good as colo but still ok

especially after buff next week gap closes a little bit

but like playing slayer arms in keys at that point just play fury

[lusty wigeon]

I see. Well, hopefully I won't be disappointed and go back to prot. Thank you

[dusty osprey]

Progging crown

In despair

[reef glade]

next week you will mog boss

warr buff and boss nerf

light as hell work

[dusty osprey]

Surely!

Might go fury

just to feel something

[reef glade]

idk if youll be feeling much more...

one of the most important things to feel good on the boss especially in p1 is timing cds well to get most dmg off when it has most stacks

[dusty osprey]

ahhh okay

wait what ab ss timings?

[reef glade]

can try to look at lorrgs or a more recent log to see what ppl do but at least my kill like a few weeks ago i sent cs on pull and waited until cs came back to send ava/bs

when first boss at like 60% health or less and has like 6-8 stacks of adds maybe

and ur cds just do like 3x more dmg

[dusty osprey]

Big okay

ty king

[reef glade]

first add not as relevant as later 2 tho since those basically guaranteed get 20 stacks and thats like 600% more dmg

so rly banking on some lucky crits/good cd timing to own in p1

but would say just look at a high log and try to copy

[dusty osprey]

yeah I am

[ionic reef]

Colo or slayer for AA

[icy mulch]

both work, but Slayer's ST is better for the bosses.

[lusty wigeon]

Did my first mythic+ with arms. I thought it'd be less apm lol, it went decently well

[rugged hill]

so are we just... terrible for 15+?

haven't been able to get a single invite all day long

wasn't too bad up to here but now hard stuck at 3300 with nothing but declines and delists filling up my feed lol

[tawdry violet]

you should only apply to groups with a shaman and one other melee

people running phys comp all the time and they need to have a warrior in there

[rugged hill]

yea was only looking for those but after seeing so few I branched out. But yea it's rough

plus just doesn't seem like too many keys are up at this level anyway

[tawdry violet]

I don't find it particularly more difficult than warlock

[astral moon]

I mean +15 that shouldnt matter right 🙈

[wind hatch]

if people are trying to optimize their comp in a 15 they're cooked

[rugged hill]

i guess they are idk. nothing but declines and delists tonight

or I post mine and sit with 2 other dps for 40 minutes lol

[grim oasis]

15 is some people's peak

can't blame them for trying to shoot for the best chance at timing their key.

[gritty burrow]

pretty much in the same shoes as you. 3.2k, still got 3 more 15s to resil. Its harder getting invites for dps warriors

[rugged hill]

we're getting some buffs tuesday right? maybe it'll change then lol

[balmy kindle]

Doubt. The easiest to get 3400 is just picking a meta lust class

[gritty burrow]

i sit around most of the time getting declines. mind you i aint even trying to apply for 16s. doing the climb the honest way

[balmy kindle]

ATM it's Aug

[wind hatch]

if you want to do that you just look at peoples logs and invite good players

[rugged hill]

yea same just doing each 1 at a time till I resil then move up one again

[wind hatch]

that is significantly more important

[tawdry violet]

there are just too many dps it's not really about your class

if you want to stand out get some 99 parses on your resume

which is easy if you just vantus any boss pretty much an automatic 99

[sudden owl]

it is actually mostly about your class but you should get invites as collosus arms

[tawdry violet]

well both arms and fury are semi-meta since they are both played in highest keys

that's what I mean

[balmy kindle]

Warrior is not that attractive outside of physical comp tho

[nova marsh]

Never is

[vast helm]

on 2 targets fight we don't use 3 stacks cleave right even during ravager

[balmy kindle]

The average meta sheep is going to run magic / 2 caster 1 dk

[wind hatch]

you do

over slam

[gritty burrow]

well that is the perception it is giving. but goesnt apply to general public folks like us who pugs 99% of the time

[balmy kindle]

Am pretty sure even a admittedly bottom clas like enh shaman can get invites just because sky fury and lust

[gritty burrow]

How are you guys looking at the incoming buffs after reset anyways? will it move the needle much?

[balmy kindle]

Think slayer might be interesting now

[wind hatch]

not very relevant for colossus but good for raid and maybe you might want to play slayer for keys like AA

[vast helm]

thanks sir

[fiery bronze]

Are we OP now ?

[nova marsh]

In physical comp we ball

If not LMAO NO

[uneven minnow]

How do I track if I missed a heroic strike press?

I don't think I did?

[lean geode]

Check the buff event, it should be "apply buff" for the initial stack, and it'll be "refresh buff" if you got a second proc while the first was active

Make sure you're checking the master of warfare that's actually responsible for HS being usable though 1269391 and not the buff it gives after

[silk spade]

🤓

[lean geode]

ask me how I know not to check 1269394

[uneven minnow]

yeah thats the one that is 1269391, the other one is a big up/down as i gain/lose stacks of the buff

[quiet bramble]

how do i heck do i get the bonus roll thingy in M+/raid?

[nova marsh]

Go to voidstorm

talk to decimus

Void guy with purple quest

Do those quests until u can't

[quiet bramble]

do we have the aoe sim import

or we just sim ST

[nova marsh]

sim st

[uneven minnow]

Is there a way to overlay my rage on this display?

[vast hinge]

we’re the ones providing the amp though in phys comp?

I guess technically feral druids too

[nova marsh]

Na

Feral druids dont provide crit anymore i heard

[vast hinge]

But like technically we do the same damage in a brew/rsham/dk/dev/war compared to something like brew/rsham/war/ret/rogue

[nova marsh]

Its us monk + shaman

[vast hinge]

With a DK and Dev as teammates I’m still getting shat on in keys lol

It’s about even jf I run with ret/hunter/rogue and some keys I’ll come on top

Bonus - if I run with a DK or Dev with the 3rd being Aug on a key like AA

They’ll do 1/3 more dps than me by the end

[nova marsh]

Tbh kinda just the warrior life rn

Also dk and deva are busted as fuckkkkkkkk

[crude rapids]

I keep seeing conflicting info what has prio outside of execute over MS or a HS proc

[quiet bramble]

i tried to like unholy, but didn't go well

[wind hatch]

HS > MS

[crude rapids]

Ty ty

[lean geode]

It's a difference of like 100 dps

so yes it's correct, but not the biggest deal

[nova marsh]

I believe wowhead lists hs as prio

[lean geode]

WH has MS > HS for slarms single target, but simc has HS > MS

Like I said though, it's an extremely small difference

[crude rapids]

I just need to get more time playing arms too much fury unga bunga 😅

[quiet bramble]

wait holy shit they change HS animation

[wispy kettle]

heroic strike does more damage because you jump in the air now

[quiet bramble]

jump slash instead of sloppy overhead slash

[hushed hamlet]

when you're 282 and the warlock is 280 and there is still a 25k dps differential and the warlock isn't specing correct talents. 😛

maybe I should just retire.

[quiet bramble]

reroll

warrior S tier next expac

[hushed hamlet]

true.

https://tenor.com/view/copium-meme-pepe-frog-gif-26117735

[blazing solstice]

Nothing i like is actually viable 🤣🤣🤣

Warrior is my best bet

[hybrid needle]

Warrior S tier in our heart

[blazing solstice]

Yessir

[quiet bramble]

ngl no matter what i do i still come back to warrior

[hybrid needle]

Im more surprised you even got into the group with 2 Casters

[quiet bramble]

probably i'm unsaveable lol

[hushed hamlet]

Same

[blazing solstice]

My mains are warr mm and ww and you can tell why i play warr atm 🤣

[hybrid needle]

My main is Fury, Arms and Protection

[blazing solstice]

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-chad-gif-20773266

[hybrid needle]

And sometimes when im really really daring.. i play pvp

[quiet bramble]

https://tenor.com/view/xqc-heart-xqcl-thumbs-up-finger-heart-gif-13130435

[blazing solstice]

Maybe i will stick to warr only too so blizz can disappoint me with only one class

[warm cosmos]

What do you guys think, in mythic keyen which will be better salyer or colossus?

[hybrid needle]

Side node tho.. Im bad at all of it. Lol

[hybrid needle]

Col

[wind hatch]

colossus will likely still be better, the only key where I think people might play slayer is AA

[quiet bramble]

if tank doesn't half ass pull, colo is better i guess

[blazing solstice]

Yea colo is for tanks with balls

[warm cosmos]

Im tired of colossus demolish, i want to spin

[wind hatch]

unless you're pushing very high keys I wouldn't really worry about the meta, just play what you like

[blazing solstice]

Wdym im having the time of my life with demo

[wind hatch]

slayer is more than viable

even now

[hybrid needle]

Do it. Ifs not unplayable

Switching between col and slayer always makes my brain lag

[quiet bramble]

slayer if you dislike colo

[hushed hamlet]

Remove hero trees. Get rid of collossus and Slayer. let's be chaotic.

[stone beacon]

arms hero talent tree is F tier

[hybrid needle]

Remove hero talents, remove apex, let classes be classes again

[stone beacon]

🤨

[hushed hamlet]

We all can't be top 96%

Some of us don't have hands

[hybrid needle]

The parse on the left is incredibly satisfying

[hushed hamlet]

Also I didn't get funnel. :/

[stone beacon]

you just made the mistake

of not having a shaman

[hushed hamlet]

lmao

[stone beacon]

shaman is like 20k+ dps

[hushed hamlet]

i have a warlock friend. not a shamman friend. damnit!

[stone beacon]

when blizzard nerfed arms warrior it was 100% because of shaman

shamanless key im homeless tier dps

[stable fiber]

what nerf

[hushed hamlet]

Sheesh

[stone beacon]

the 12.0.5 cleave nerf

[stable fiber]

idk overall that patch was a buff though

[stone beacon]

to single target

aoe nerf

[hybrid needle]

115k? What key is that

[rose matrix]

Well Colossus needs all the st itt can get

[stone beacon]

both pit same route and everything only difference is shaman

[rose matrix]

What key level

[hybrid needle]

Kick the mage, invite an Enhancer

[stone beacon]

shaman key was a 12 the one without was a 10

[stone beacon]

real

[rose matrix]

Well that's part of it

You're going to do more damage in a 12 than a 10 by default too

[hybrid needle]

You dont get ANY mass execution in a 10 tbh

[stone beacon]

even in a 11 i did 150k overall with shaman

[balmy kindle]

Outside of m+ and raids, we are still good in solo shuffle

[hybrid needle]

Solo shuffle. Kek.

[balmy kindle]

So you can farm 2500 conq like easy pz while warlock struggles

Hey I mean it's content

[hybrid needle]

Good luck being able to move in the first place with your whole lobby being Fmages, evokers and paladins

[balmy kindle]

I am washed as hell but was able to hit 2500 conq on 1600 rating in a day, pretty easy lol

[hybrid needle]

I hate solo shuffle. Im just in there if i feel like i wanna suffer

[balmy kindle]

Yeah but the transmogs

[hybrid needle]

I mean

Up to 1800 its free game

The suffering starts after that

[balmy kindle]

Well d stance zug only gets you so far

[hybrid needle]

Im sitting at like 1940 with about 2150mmr and i.. dont wanna press the Button

Screw the enchant at 1950. My sanity is more important

[keen siren]

guys is slayer back in mplus on tuesday

please tell me slayer will be good

[balmy kindle]

Probably?

[keen siren]

these r big dam buffs

[brave silo]

general consensus at this point is that col is still better

except in keys where slayer was already better, like AA

[keen siren]

ok but slayer will still be decent

surely

[wind hatch]

yes

slayer is fine even now

[brave silo]

yeah its totally fine

[wind hatch]

there are people who are performing very well playing it

[keen siren]

yes its just colo does way more aoe dmg

[minor gust]

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-ben-kenobi-of-course-i-know-them-theyre-me-gif-25185969

[brave silo]

https://tenor.com/view/look-up-scared-willem-dafoe-gif-17761333

[keen siren]

@minor gust is slayer back on tuesday

i want to play slayer

[minor gust]

it will be better than it is now

[keen siren]

and do big dam

these r big buffs

[minor gust]

not realy that big

but they are nice

new slayer build will be some nice ST focus

[keen siren]

slayer fury will be good too

whats the new slayer build?

u still run cleave right

[minor gust]

of course that wont change

gonna be testing with a no Blord/BB insteading playing into execute with massacre and x2 CT

[stone beacon]

ive never had a slayer a out dps a colossus in AA

[minor gust]

MS falling off a little with that 20% execute buff

[keen siren]

i dont understand a word of that laymans terms

[hybrid needle]

MS turns into filler on slayer soon

[keen siren]

please for the peasants

[keen siren]

wait isnt this what were running minus that talent on the left bottom

[brave silo]

I think it's less about overall and more about the ST needed bosses

[wind hatch]

yeah that's what he said he's switching

[keen siren]

oh ok

exe will do more dmg than ms now?

or what

[minor gust]

[brave silo]

thats post buff?

[keen siren]

how r u testing ytha

that

post buff

is that st or aoe or

wait st

no cleave dmg

ok now test aoe

[stone beacon]

colo in logs still does better boss damage but it could be just because all the good arms players are playing colo and not slayer

[hybrid needle]

Why rts non existent

[wind hatch]

people are pulling packs onto bosses in higher keys whenever they can

[brave silo]

Im not 100% sure - people above me talking about inting in AA if you play colo. You'll have to ask them for their resoning

[wind hatch]

arms has very good funnel

[keen siren]

ok now test aoe bro

[hybrid needle]

Oh, ok

[keen siren]

how r u testing this

[wind hatch]

the problem with AA is that you can't really pull packs onto most of the bosses

except vexamus

maybe u can for dorogosa too but that's really scuffed

[keen siren]

u can pull packs on every boss except the bird rigt?

[hybrid needle]

I mean, there is cols doing 20s/21s on AA even now. So how is it trolling

[brave silo]

First boss I don't think you can

[keen siren]

yes u can pull some bugs onto tree boss

[fringe leaf]

does anyone know if warriors can get back on platform last boss of SR? ive never tried nor have i watched a warrior do it, assuming it cant be done but wasnt sure if we could charge to the boss if its near edge or intervene a ranged person near edge

but iirc charge/intervene/leap wont work unless youre about to hit ground

[minor gust]

since u want the breakdown that badly

[stone beacon]

you can charge mid air on chimara boss

[nova marsh]

Hi mr.slayues

[fringe leaf]

but the ground is underneath you, last boss SR its nothing but air lol

[stone beacon]

yeah than you have to pray to the blizzard jank code gods

[minor gust]

[stone beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/my-boy-massacred-godfather-marlan-brando-look-gif-13993325

[fringe leaf]

yeah im gonna assume its just not possible lol ive watched enough Deepps on twitch via yoda streams and he never did it

[stone beacon]

slayer strikes fury season 3 TWW my beloved

[hybrid needle]

In my experience.. it doesnt work

[minor gust]

you cant need some sort a movement that doesnt require any targeting

like DH backflip

[nova marsh]

Which is odd because it worked for lich king

[pulsar frost]

So good sir the slayer enjoyer. Are you happy eith the buffs

[hybrid needle]

Does voidelf racial work

[fringe leaf]

ok thanks

[minor gust]

Of course because im gonna do more dmg on tuesday than I do now

I aint a slave to the dps meters so I dont need slayer to be better than colo to play it

[hybrid needle]

Bossman, you prio OP over MS?
How often do u need to slam in aoe

[minor gust]

yes and never

if I have nothing to press cuz no SD charges cleave ms op on CD I rather refresh rend

than press slam

[hybrid needle]

Do you send first BS in a dung immediately or fish for strikes

[minor gust]

if possible you should be prestacking ID before dung start but if not always just send BS after CS

heh funny sim line

[pulsar frost]

How you prestack it tho. Isn't it just auto attack procs for exe?

Cause for col its very easy to prestack demo by just mortal striking or cleaving