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nova marsh
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It kinda just bricked my key

pulsar frost
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i need to do it on a 17

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but i cba

nova marsh
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Shattered the flow, lost lust with 2 deaths

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Completely fucked key GG

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I don't really mind thou

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I don't need spire, I already did on a 14 I just wonna reroll the key

stone beacon
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What are the chances of arms getting a buff and unh getting nerfed

mystic summit
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0

nova marsh
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-1

stone beacon
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Close enough welcome back aug+fmage+spriest

timber shadow
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Unh found to be overperforming, Arms nerfed in compensation.

mystic summit
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+dev buff

nova marsh
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Tbh

stone beacon
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Before 12.0.5 arms was seen to be challenging the holy trinity and that's the greatest crime of all

nova marsh
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I'm gonna keep it a buck, I genuinely think FDK has a higher chance of buffs

naive steeple
mystic summit
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i miss frost oblit cleave

stone beacon
nova marsh
reef glade
mystic summit
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if it was pre rework frost dk and they baked dnd into remorseless winter i would actually play 2 characters

maiden apex
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So they fixed fervor but we got nerfed in ST?

lean geode
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Yes

slate island
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time to shut down

maiden apex
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Great

nova marsh
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It's okay guys

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ST dosen't matter

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it's a pad tier

mystic summit
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when they adding fervor animation back

slate island
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but everyone is better at padding

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collapsing star takes all my pad away instantly

nova marsh
stone beacon
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Arms warrior had a bug, it was doing slightly more damage than intended. When does we shut down the discord until blizzard gives us a buff?

maiden apex
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Im up! Im good at crying...wait was that out loud?

nova marsh
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we're used to ts

slate island
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crying is the only thing we got left

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because we aint doin damage or be a relevant part of the raid

maiden apex
stone beacon
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How many years has it been of warrior being mid tier damage?

nova marsh
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Idk

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since literally TBC

lean geode
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Arms was one of the best specs in 10.0.5 I believe

stone beacon
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You can also count the amount of seasons prot has been meta on 1 hand

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And most of the fingers are classic wow

lean geode
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Fury was also good in M+ in 10.1 before aug came out

slate island
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prot has been meta so many season at the start but like always when warrior is on top devs go to work and nerf it

lean geode
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Fury was very good for a couple fights in 11.0 before the 6 nerfs in a row incident

nova marsh
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Dude I talked to a random warrior

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I HATE

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HOW RIGHT HE IS OMFG

lean geode
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I mean that's just a bad take

nova marsh
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I mean

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for colo no

lean geode
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If they said udk maybe

nova marsh
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Colo it's literally true

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ew

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fuck that

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I'd rather die then become like UDK

mystic summit
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but then you'd be playing a paladin... gross

nova marsh
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and like

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lmafo no

lean geode
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I mean you can play thane in every key and you're not trolling

abstract lion
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How are arms doing in mythic raids ? Should i stick to my fury ?

nova marsh
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that's honestly

lean geode
nova marsh
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kind of a low bar mate

stone beacon
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Warrior in raid? Aren't you just brought for battle shout now

nova marsh
abstract lion
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No. Im top 5

lean geode
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tf kinda group are you raiding with

abstract lion
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Hhhhhh dont ask. But i do press buttons fast

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Im bored of Fury. Arms is better in March, right ?

stone beacon
abstract lion
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No

nova marsh
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show logs

abstract lion
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We have four raiding teams. Our top team is 7/9 Mythic

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Im in the fourth team. We struggle but we are scrappy

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So our Guild is not bad

slate island
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I dont get it

mystic summit
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what race is everybodys warriors

abstract lion
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Arab

mystic summit
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real

stone beacon
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Dractyr is the only answer

slate island
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salam

mystic summit
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ew

nova marsh
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KT

abstract lion
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Walaykom il Salam

stone beacon
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Bro i can immune knock backs without using a leap or charge its so OP

mystic summit
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ya but ur a scaly

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gross

abstract lion
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And ur crotch is smooth

stone beacon
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Just dont be in dragon form 5head

mystic summit
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then ur a twink

slate island
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let's be honest the human forms kinda make it worse ngl

abstract sphinx
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If u want survivability / ease of life go nelf or dwarf

mystic summit
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human

abstract lion
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Orc

balmy kindle
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Dragon is best

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Gliding negating knock backsokayge

abstract sphinx
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We have charge for a reason broski

stone beacon
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Also movement speed from glide

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Non dragon warriors will RP walk back to boss

abstract sphinx
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Plus bladestorm plus demolish

abstract lion
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Ur case is better mobility ?

balmy kindle
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Yes we have charge but trust glide walking

abstract lion
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We have leap and 2 charges

slate island
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enjoy your life as a ren faire face painting gone horribly wrong you asked for a tiger got dracthyr

abstract sphinx
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Plus if ur a dracthyr warrior ur kinda a failure who couldnt become an evoker

stone beacon
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I use my x2 charges on adds and boss

abstract sphinx
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Its sad

abstract lion
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Dude. That millisecond wont matter

mystic summit
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who here is a gnome

abstract sphinx
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They exist?

slate island
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I am shutting down my discord now in protest

abstract lion
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Pugged with a protection gnome once. Had to icon his ass to see him

stone beacon
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Being a dragon on chimera is so free never get knocked back and always have charge and leap

balmy kindle
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Never take dmg on knock up and falling down

rare kite
abstract lion
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Its news to me as well

mystic summit
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i used the atomic recalibrator on beloren and had gnome and had to zoom in to see if i was purple or gold

abstract sphinx
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Charging knockbacks for rage is the way

abstract lion
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Must give him an extra 10k dps

stone beacon
abstract lion
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Are u trolling ?

rare kite
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you save both charges? bruv that is insane cope

stone beacon
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Yes

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I never charge knock back

abstract lion
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And lose rage ?

stone beacon
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I charge adds, adds die, I charge boss

abstract lion
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So switching to Arms will not fuck my dps ?

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Im alreadu recrafting

stone beacon
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You need crit haste

abstract lion
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Yea thats sorted. I basically have all the drops in my bank

abstract sphinx
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It will fk ur st

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But then again fury is ass too when it comes to ST

nova marsh
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meh

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ST is dead af

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on warr

abstract lion
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Yea 70k on a good day it seems

abstract sphinx
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Yep

nova marsh
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ya know I keep feeling like I'm doing something dramatically wrong in ST

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Like I have to be

abstract sphinx
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Or you dominate your tank and make him pull funnel for you each pull

nova marsh
abstract lion
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Im cheesing adds and i feel cheap

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In raids

abstract sphinx
abstract lion
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Saving up my cooldowns to pump up my numbers on adds doesnt feel right

nova marsh
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Shit i'll get in bed for more dps keks

abstract lion
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If someone has the dave chappelle crack addict meme plz post it

sand totem
nova marsh
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blizz

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bring back being ethical

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PLEASE

upper sparrow
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I’m swapping to colossus, I tried to hold out

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Got removed from a +15
“XD slayer”

gentle gyro
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Nice

nova marsh
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ya know what

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I actually outdpsed the tank in ST consistantly.

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(I can't believe I'm celebrating this

bitter kestrel
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it's the little things in life

mystic summit
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i accidentally started my key with st build after simming the other day

nova marsh
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Rippers

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unironically

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The Prowess build kinda helps

mystic summit
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luckily the tank folded in 10 secs so it didnt matter

fierce meadow
nova marsh
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Bird pull in a +13 btw

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Holy shit that was so good

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skyreach

strong radish
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bro

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critcake needs to drop

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skincare routine

mystic summit
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i imagine critcake with a patrick bateman routine

strong radish
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bro is always low cortisol

limber valve
cedar cairn
nova marsh
cedar cairn
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oh my

nova marsh
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That shit was actually disgusting

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That pack got vaporized

balmy kindle
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It's all cleave

mystic summit
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anybody know a simple rage bar addon

balmy kindle
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There's actually a personal resource display by default but it's really wide and ugly

rigid flicker
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there's an addon that allows you to customize the default blizz cooldown manager that gives a useful ragebar

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AyijeCDM

mystic summit
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ur right that shit is ugly

nova marsh
balmy kindle
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It's the only W our spec has now

nova marsh
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I mean also die is fun

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I got death mark

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Shaman stunned

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Pack still alive

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Pop die

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Dosent matter

nova marsh
slow saddle
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Yeah i use that as well at times. But 2 big brain

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Arcui is the choice

nova marsh
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After setting it up I like arc a lot

slow saddle
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Its weakaura light 4 sure😁

rose matrix
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I tried Arcui at the start but it was not very friendly to switching characters

slow saddle
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Its not very userfriendly. But i guess u can make profiles now?

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Pr well dl some good dudes setup

rose matrix
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I set it up for Fury then I switched to my alts and found out I'd have to do it again for them so I just swapped to Cooldown Manager Centered

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And sensei resource bars or something like that

slow saddle
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I downloaded a profile for my dk-war fpr cdm and use sensei + uuf

rose matrix
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Queued for a pit 18 and this guy won't take me and he has a warlock, brew, surv hunter, demo warlock

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Doesn't know what he is missing out on

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Pit is our pumper key

slow saddle
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Needs sham

deft tiger
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I played lastnight colossal and feels slow not sure if the talent I picked or stole (critcake) or the there Is min maxing the stats differs from slayer in m+

clever crag
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Hell yeah from green logs straight to 90 average

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Wish I got some decent trinkets finally

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Colo is slapping btw on Chimaerus and first

hybrid needle
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Colo only slaps on first if your raid doesnt eat up the adds

clever crag
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Yeah they do but only like first 2 sets

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Then I eat

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I was also fucked by the mechanic 3 times should be 95 ez next week

hybrid needle
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I gave up on everything man. I just play singletarget slayer everywhere xD

slow saddle
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Y. Not dragons + pala

clever crag
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Dont do it nooo deadge

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I love colo tbh

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You suck dick do tank dps and then bam to the roof

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And on Chim the intermission adds are like prio to die asap

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Why not demolish them

blissful tinsel
clever crag
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The dev was playing dk KEKW

slow saddle
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2 dks 2 locks 2 rets 1 aug 2 ddh

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I play st

clever crag
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But if you can get 10 stack demo in + 3 cleaves thats enough

clever crag
graceful sun
slow saddle
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Sadly

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Thats how we do it

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🤣

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.mny point arms parses are so freakin dependant

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Sometimes id just wish thane was tune to god and just clap em

clever crag
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Hell no

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Im so glad to not play fury

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Its so boring and spammy

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Slayer is alright I guess but thane keks

fresh spire
slow saddle
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My guilds range wanna more

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If i comment ill get flamed

graceful sun
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I asked to sit out on dragon reclears. If you're not going to do it properly you're just wasting my time.

slow saddle
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We need to kill it

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Guilds shit

smoky kayak
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although unfortunately one of our dks is literally always 2-5s late with his grip and I don't know why; really infuriating when trying to play Colo since it's so easy to whiff CS and Demo

frozen crater
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i assume this opener, Bladestorm only for first tick and /cancelaura bladestorm mortal strike ?

warped owl
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Why cancel bladestorm it extends your Colo smash through tierset

frozen crater
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ah i see

warped owl
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Unhinged sending mortal

brave silo
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I think this is for slayer anyway

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but you'd want to use full bladestorm - it casts MS which extend CS

daring heron
frozen crater
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yep, mah bad lol thats for slayer..

daring heron
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i am empty

dusk lake
quiet bramble
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I’m lost in thoughts

gentle gyro
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Did I just cook or did I poop?
Could this save Arms ST (both hero talents)?

quiet bramble
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Can slam perma turn into sth deadge

floral tide
gentle gyro
quiet bramble
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Had cortisol spike when pressing slam and rend seramore

stone beacon
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if i cope hard enough and remove the pad adds from M+ logs arms does better than unh dk sometimes

deft tiger
stone beacon
upper sparrow
halcyon valve
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Hot take
I dont mind avatar

gentle gyro
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sadge I didn't cook sadge

stone beacon
spring inlet
gentle gyro
gentle gyro
elder zodiac
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I had a 200k something crit with puzzlebox and cds up

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and I feel like that should be somewhat a norm under CDs without box

grand pivot
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The only time i have fun this season is nxp 2nd boss and seat last boss, mortal striking for a million makes me warm inside

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So when is blizzard gonna do something? Or are they just gonna keep us in dooky tier for raid, and nerfed in m+? AGAIN btw

fresh spire
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We're always in dookie tier

elder zodiac
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if you buff ST, you gotta bring cleave a bit down

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since our funnel becomes higher too

fresh spire
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10% aura. 5% cleave nerf

gentle gyro
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You get more from apex

empty sluice
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I Wish demolish would get wake of ashes treatment, get rid of that channel and slow

grand pivot
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I just find it so annoying that classes with so much more damage then warrior ALSO has so much more of other shit, like its just not balanced in the slighest

fresh spire
gentle gyro
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Idk why is it so hard to develop a normal arms warr spec

molten horizon
fresh spire
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Ideal world.

Ravager is removed for something more simple like Cs does 200/300% more damage. Numbers have been checked and it works out stronger for St and same for aoe

Bleeds in colossus are rebuffed to allow for more St while not indirectly buffing slayer.

All non cleave abilities need to be buffed. If aura cleave needs to be nerfed.

More of our aoe talents need to be gutted and the power put back into cleaves baseline (ravagers 50%/mass execution are both bad for rotation and st/low target count)

fresh spire
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Only aoe talents id want to survive if given the choice would be cleave/fob/collateral. Rest can go.

stable fiber
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op needs rage gen

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baseline 10

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maybe 15 in execute

fresh spire
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Long sweep also feels so worthless when Broad is just the same thing but better.
Merge the two making broad give 18 stacks.

Sari had a good idea of execute lowering ms cost.

Bake it into ep and shoot critical thinking.

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Free mortal strikes after 2x execute would help rage flow a fuck ton.

fresh spire
grand pivot
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maybe its time to take up the mantle and become a tank instead

fresh spire
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Like old times

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Now imagine we didn't have to talent cleave as its just baseline.

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Ofc put it on the other side so it's connected to fob

stable fiber
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i do geniuenly think they have a robot doing some of the .5 changes btw

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or just somebody who has no idea what colossus does

grand pivot
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clanker changes

fresh spire
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I mean this whole patch is a mess. The changes to hunter during the middle of progress is absolutely ridiculous

stable fiber
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cause im still pissed they added WHIRLWIND damage to practiced strikes

fresh spire
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Should have been a 1.0 change

stable fiber
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whirlwind damage...

flat willow
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but does the clanker know fury and arms had some of the worst single target in the game

stable fiber
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in a hero talent that has to play cleave...

flat willow
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before it nerfed them, I mean

stable fiber
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whirlwind

stone beacon
thick kelp
slow saddle
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Is super needed

molten horizon
slow saddle
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@thick kelp take execute crits dw half em u get loss

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Solution press exe less less loss🤣

empty sluice
thick kelp
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dont play slayer in keys

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Deadge

slow saddle
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Like would be nice if smash did like dno 3 times as much as now?

empty sluice
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Cant even remember last time it did some dmg

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Probably bfa with some azerite traits

slow saddle
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I mean it doesnt need 2 do a lot

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But something

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Whats the breakdown now?

empty sluice
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2%?

slow saddle
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Id like for it to be 8?

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In keys at least?

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Mby 2 high?

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Also hs desperately needs 2 work like sd!

empty sluice
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Wdym

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It kinda does

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Or you want it to be free?

astral yarrow
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just revert to ToS arms bedge

empty sluice
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I liked df s3

astral yarrow
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I liked both DF S2 and 3 arms, but Tomb of Sargeras arms has to be the best version ever

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funnily enough, wotlk and cata arms was also kinda good

empty sluice
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Yea theyre not gonna go back to that version

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Because warrior would be actualy fun to play and strong

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That is reserved for rets

astral yarrow
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its the fun thing that sort of died for me this xpac

empty sluice
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Yea I might be the only one, but i dont think colossus is fun to play

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Even slayer is kinda meh

lunar acorn
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can anyone pelase share focus kick marker macro

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for m+

astral yarrow
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i dont like how any of the builds play right now, so im not even playing warrior. Im just praying for changes come next tier and if not, ill just play it for progress again and then something else for farm like this tier

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Didnt enjoy warrior whatsoever, so when it looked like warrior was sort of bad to mid for the last 3, i asked to just bench me entirely rest of tier and let me irl job hunt instead

lunar acorn
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let me guess

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Unholy?

astral yarrow
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that was my split alt, so that is bricked

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im playing survival

empty sluice
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Surv, outlaw and ret are nice to play imo

astral yarrow
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surv is very simple lol

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and i so far dislike the pet thing

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why does that shit randomly die

balmy kindle
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Surv is highly dependent on tuning though historically keks

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Like if MM and BM were any stronger it's decline city

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I enjoyed tww S3 bomb spam a lot myself

vale cradle
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I tried unholy at start of season and its rotation put me to sleep

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Colossus so much more fun then pressing scourge strike and epidemic over and over in keys

vapid goblet
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when do you get the outgrow gilded crest achiev btw?

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is it 285??

candid pecan
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I guess, I'll let you know next week, probably ratge (currently 284)

rain cipher
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I just started playing Slayer Arms in M+. Do I need to use Bladestorm in the Colossus Smash window? It feels like their cooldowns don’t line up.

thick kelp
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yes

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but dont play slarms in keys

thorn stream
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Hard to defend it anymore

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As slarms big coper

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Just play colossus and cleave to win

flat willow
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it's nice nerfing slayer every patch

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20 more buffs for dev dh please

astral yarrow
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as is tradition first tier of xpacs bedge

opaque trail
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hello guys where can i find other discord class comunity pls ?

floral tide
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Does the wowhead guides have that info? I usually just Google it

vast helm
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buffs post today for sure

tender plaza
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Arms so sad it made me play Tainted Grail only to feel like im playing Arms

clever crag
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Its good to see the colo freaks instantly take top logs tho

fresh spire
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Slayer in keys just down bad after .5 and recent dw fix

rancid willow
naive steeple
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hey guys, Murder Row Fleet Feet count as embelishment? or i can make and use with my bracer and weapon embelishment?

feral breach
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It is considered an embelishment, yes

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Unique-Equipped: Embellished (2)

naive steeple
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aaaaa i dind't see

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thank you

torpid acorn
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For vorasius mythic in the last 24h (after bugfix)

calm hollow
torpid acorn
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i think the dev puts "balance war for me" in the AI and just craps on everyclass starting with war

calm hollow
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To be bottom

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Whats up with warlock tho? Is it really worse than us with all 3 spec?

torpid acorn
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im just using vorasius because its the most ST fight

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its ST is lacking too

finite wasp
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dont u guys love how blizzard thinks warrior is too weak so they decide to nerf it

calm hollow
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They just fixed us

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They love us

clever crag
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You can cheese in some dmg on Vora

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By exe cleaving the adds

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But wasting cds on them is worthless I think

blissful tinsel
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They die too fast, I got a 96 just by sitting on the boss

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Lose more damage going out to try and pad

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Logs this tier are scuffed I don’t care anymore

calm hollow
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If they fixate you tho, we have to go so far we are out of melee range on 1st wave

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So stupid

blissful tinsel
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Yes there is that which is annoying

bleak arrow
torpid acorn
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at this point is like picking between a turd and poop

clever crag
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I can only cleave executes on em 3rd pack

torpid acorn
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if your raid has 2 Demon Hunters, and due to popularity it probably does, every wave of adds is a Mirage

clever crag
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No flow to that shit

kind stag
clever crag
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Youre supposed to spam but due to extreme haste you can do 2x rampage and fuck up your prio

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Slayer fury is ok

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But Im tired of shitty thane

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Its ret paladin with 2 weapons

kind stag
torpid acorn
# clever crag Nah fury is so bad

i actually enjoy playing both.. funny enough one of the things i really liked about warrior when trying it out on the pre-patch was the fact that reap the storm proc from MS or BT was a really feel good mechanic and reminded me a lot the times of windfury on classic/sod

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oh boy, they were quick to adress it with the fun police

clever crag
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I played mostly fury since Legion but this is like the worst iteration

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They are quick to shit on warrior yeah

deft bluff
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I do genuinely question why the devs are so reluctant to make war good / competetive

clever crag
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I think what annoys me how raging blow is just trash

deft bluff
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Aren’t we quite a popular class?

clever crag
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Not really

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Like lower mid popular lol

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But ppl are fotm slop enjoyers

deft bluff
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People arent chads

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I forgot

brisk sedge
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so bugfix costed us a %5 st nerf ? when they will stop

kind stag
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not top 3 but like 5th or 6th

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warrior players also keep playing warrior, lot of current dk players are fotm rerollers for example

weak rain
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what if they bugfixed it, to increase DW damage by 100% today

kind stag
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we are still shite then

strange comet
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What are we looking for overall DPS (col) wise in keys around ~15s or 16s? Obvi can depend on group and the ways your tank pulls, but what number do you normally land around.

chilly geyser
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Why is everybody using the omission of light and occlusion of void set. I have 289 purloined wedding ring. It sims better when i sim it? Is the sim wrong or am i stupid?

dim basalt
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I think Im losing to the lfg boss

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3h in total without a single invite atp

thick kelp
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160k might b abit low end at that range cuz im doing this on my weekly 12's

torpid acorn
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What i really feel about Warrior, specially Arms is that we lack serious class identity.
The Mastery is a good example.. what kind of non-imaginative crap is that? extra damage when wielding 2H, like theres an alternative?
We have no burst, making our damage profile quite flat, but unlike a burst class that is rewarded by using his CDs at the right time, we get no reward if we maintain uptime on the boss.
i believe that trade-off is only logical.. but no.
Arms specially has one of the most serious cases of rigid builds, having to make a choice between good AOE or ST (mediocre), no flexibility whatsoever.
Resource Managing, this pisses me off. most classes are rewarded well if they manager their stuff. Arms is stuck in a loop where if you manage your rage well you do mediocre damage, if you dont can't press any ability.

rancid willow
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Feel like Warrior needs a complete redesign from the ground up

radiant moon
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idk i feel like we need rage gen buff + more power into our sht

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i like how the class plays except for akf waiting cuz i ran out of op stacks in exe

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give ms + hs like 15% buff

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exe like 10%

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we would most likely end up middle of the pack anyway

torpid acorn
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i wish we were middle of the pack

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thats the best place to be

radiant moon
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yeah same

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what i meant was we prob would be middle of the pack after those changes

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i dont want warrior to be op, just be viable in raid

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like cmon

torpid acorn
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i want to not having to parse 99 just to keep up with people parsing blue

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i think thats reasonable

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yesterday pugging HC Crown

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the warrior parsing 85 was below a 47 unholy

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warrior parsing 99 was on par with frost mage scratching his balls

thick kelp
#

I know the feeeling

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im doing 99 parse vs grey parse aug

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exact same dps

torpid acorn
#

theres no rewarding feeling playing warrior

naive steeple
torpid acorn
#

... HC Crown?

misty bridge
gentle gyro
vital zinc
#

Have no fear bois, we're getting patch notes (maybe) today for more nerfs

gentle gyro
#

Why today?

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Anyways, nerf arms

vital zinc
#

typically class tuning on friday but who knows

#

pretty sure they're doing one more tuning at least from what ive heard

gentle gyro
#

AI says that we need to buff aug, demo, unholy and devourer. Don't think that warriors are even in the mix

vital zinc
#

true

vocal flicker
#

ddh, udk, aug, dlock buffs inc

clever crag
#

Honestly I only care about the parse

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If Im like top 5 and mf above me blue parse ggs you suck

clever crag
gentle gyro
#

Also that rend buff is laughable

clever crag
#

Rend does nothing

#

Such a pos ability rn

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Rend rn is like rend in vanilla

torpid acorn
flat willow
#

Put some respect on rend, it's the only reason you are allowed to press buttons in aoe

tribal sail
#

guys a question. i only use demolish with CS. do i try to sync also avatar with CS or just use it when available?

flat willow
#

Hold avatar for Cs yes

tribal sail
#

even if its 15 sec+ cd?

flat willow
#

Yes, avatar is worthless without Cs

tribal sail
#

does the same aply for ravager?

gentle gyro
flat willow
#

You hold ravager for Cs yes

gentle gyro
flat willow
#

Don't just throw a ravager alone

gentle gyro
#

At least that rend procced OP

#

This just exists

torpid acorn
#

Rend is pretty good damage per cast and gives back rage. its not that bad. its just not a fun to use ability

gentle gyro
#

Agree to disagree

torpid acorn
#

its up there

#

again, its the problem i was talking about. you are not rewarded if you keep a good uptime. you're just not punished.
thats bad design

sharp sequoia
dim basalt
#

Unless aoe

torpid acorn
dim basalt
#

Rend hasnt been this bad in all of TWW

torpid acorn
sharp sequoia
torpid acorn
#

Heroic strike is a proc that turns Slam into a new ability. it has one of the highest AP ratios for arms. 600% AP. and also buffs your next colossus smash to give more damage amp

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it has high prio in the rotation

halcyon valve
trim night
#

Hey if I craft a weapon to 285 then get another 2 hander does it consume crests to upgrade?

torpid acorn
#

up to 285 is free

trim night
#

Awesome. So it’s basically 100% worth crafting cause you can use your craft wep as offhand for fury later on

torpid acorn
#

works like that yes

trim night
#

Nice thanks

sharp sequoia
astral bolt
#

Guys, I need a macro to change stances and found
#showtooltip
/cast [stance:1] Berserker Stance; Battle Stance

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But it doesn't work

restive jay
#

Well first of all you do not have berserker stance as arms

languid torrent
astral bolt
#

Oh

astral bolt
sharp sequoia
honest seal
#

ppl going so aggrosive to warrior, i keep getting decline for key 6 and 10 while i am 3200 rio :l

gentle gyro
#

I will be forever stuck in that rio

manic path
#

is pit worth bonus rolling on?

indigo cradle
#

sim

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but probably yes

#

like, I can't see your gear, idk how many mythic bosses you are killing, I don't know anything from that question

abstract jetty
#

not sure if this is the appropriate channel, does anyone offer any coaching ? Progging on M crown and analyzing my logs is the worst part of me as a raider

rustic reef
#

How do you guys play paladins hammers+divine tool overlaps

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Hammers from the other groups are so hard to dodge because they are tight and divine toll shields are enough to kill you if you arent topped

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I usually pop dstance sr there and i dont have that big issues survining there but im loosing so much uptime

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How do i maximize dmg there

mortal crag
#

idk what happened

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but it worked

nova marsh
thick kelp
radiant ore
#

Hi guys

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I was just checking Arms warrior on murlok io. Is there any reason everyone is going night elf warrior? Because i cant find any information on this

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Can someone explain?

jovial hare
radiant ore
#

Thanks

abstract goblet
#

Guys, aren't we supposed to get a proc buff for heroic strikes? It doesn't show any overlay on the screen or proc buff

abstract goblet
#

my slam doesn't change either T_T

vital zinc
#

Do you have it macro'd to something?

silver sapphire
#

Maybe he’s talking about the passive when he uses it

abstract goblet
#

somehow its now working after a reload ._.

nova marsh
#

...Holy fuck

#

how do you do damage with a dk and demo

umbral linden
potent drum
#

Can someone please confirm priority

3+ targets:
cleave>mortal strike> overpowered >exec proc > slam/exec filler ?

Single target
Mortal strike > overpowered > exec proc > slam/cleave/exec depending on boss % ?

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I heard for ST slam above overpowered but overpowered reset mortal strike so I thought it would be better

umbral linden
nova marsh
umbral linden
potent drum
#

Yes yes

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I should have precised

ionic mica
umbral linden
#

dw is good
no dw is bad

ionic mica
#

as well as you missed out maintaining rend

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and missed out heroic strike

potent drum
umbral linden
potent drum
#

And heroic strike > mortal strike? 😮

ionic mica
#

we dont change the priority based on if deep wounds is on the target

potent drum
ionic mica
#

makes very little difference to your damage

potent drum
#

Ok

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And overpowered doesn't get prio even at 2 stacks

nova marsh
#

Now I'm just sad

#

3k achieved but I trolled last key

sharp sequoia
# ionic mica aoe

Can i play ravager avatar and colossus togheter with a single button?!

ionic mica
umbral linden
sharp sequoia
ionic mica
#

the bleed damage will happen either way and it only does damage

radiant moon
#

will send my macro gimme a sec

umbral linden
umbral linden
#

when i first logged in arms in tww i thought that i'd have a wonderful execute phase, as it was before

radiant moon
umbral linden
#

like resetupping dw every gcd looked good on paper, but it just doesnt work as told

ionic mica
#

its just to stop you worrying about refreshing the bleed "early"

prime nimbus
sharp sequoia
umbral linden
#

i thought it stacked initially

radiant moon
#

no it just increases the dps

marble fable
#

you guys are much nicer than the druid discord

umbral linden
#

guess thats just too much

radiant moon
umbral linden
#

buff udk

sharp sequoia
marble fable
radiant moon
ionic mica
radiant moon
#

fair

ionic mica
#

just press ravager before csmash if you are about to spam cleave

#

you would want control over when you press rav anyway

radiant moon
#

you esentially dont press it outside of 3x cleave window from smash anyway

#

its just merciles bonegrinder at this point

sharp sequoia
#

How do i get 5 master of war charges? I get up to 3 at most, maybe I'm doing something wrong

thick kelp
#

by not pressing CS on cd

glad cosmos
#

be lucky, dont be unlucky

radiant moon
#

and pray to rnjesus

rose matrix
astral yarrow
#

@thick kelp do i take guiDON or a bonus roll out of vault

rose matrix
#

Wrong reply

cunning smelt
#

Guys I wanna balance my stats between two specs without spending my gold on enchants, how do I know which gems are better for fury and arms together

radiant moon
rose matrix
#

Yeah I meant to reply to someone else but either way it works

radiant moon
rose matrix
#

Outside of pull I always send Demolish before Ravager

radiant moon
#

you cant really ballance stats for both

cunning smelt
radiant moon
#

id suggest pick a spec (we suck while in both in raid) and just stick to it

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and switch to whatever they buff

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if they ever buff dps warrior

cunning smelt
#

yea I just wanted to check if its possible without spending money for the spec I wanna play

#

Like I wanna play arms for M+ and Fury for raiding

ionic mica
#

any of the 3 of haste crit/haste mast/crit mast

halcyon valve
#

Pivot to only playing arms, you wont regret it

rose matrix
#

Yeah if I was to choose I would just play Arms

umbral badger
#

this is the worst season for me in the history of wow i am not even being invited to raids because i am a warrior 😄

cunning smelt
#

thats cap

radiant moon
#

Thing is mast is huge on fury while arms without crit feels so bad

pulsar frost
#

i get invited to raids fine

radiant moon
#

I mean you could play mastery arms

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But meh

pulsar frost
#

playing mast arms temp is fine

radiant moon
astral yarrow
pulsar frost
#

till you just get a set for crit arms

umbral badger
#

they don't want warriors on fights like crown and beloran :p

pulsar frost
umbral badger
#

even when i historically did very well they just don't wanna bother with warriors

pulsar frost
#

i heard crown p3 is good for arms tho

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since exe

astral yarrow
#

i figured guilds doing those bosses at this point would need warm bodies more than whatever is optimal

radiant moon
#

Yeah but you gotta carry it P1 and P2

#

Same as lura also we slap in P3

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Or whatever the phase before the secret phase is

sharp sequoia
#

but are there classes that are faster in their rotation, right?

umbral badger
cunning smelt
#

I still favor Fury ngl, far more satisfying to play, still I think Arms is better than the time when I played TWW

pulsar frost
#

i just like col gameplay

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it feels good and fun

radiant moon
pulsar frost
#

slayer was fun before changes

umbral badger
#

just early was trash

radiant moon
#

Late ce guild things

astral yarrow
radiant moon
#

Not good enough to get a better one sadly. My 1st myth tier was nerubar 1st CE was gally

#

Started raiding in vault of the incarnates

astral yarrow
#

just need to guild hop a lot til you find your home or people with the same goal as you

radiant moon
#

i mean the guild is fine

#

ppl just mental boom when we struggle on bosses

bleak arrow
astral yarrow
radiant moon
#

i mean maybe 298 weapons will make us good copium

nova marsh
cunning smelt
pulsar frost
#

fury just isnt good rn

#

in both pve content

nova marsh
# cunning smelt whys that?

The rampage apex is extremely jank and makes reck feel awkward, especially when reck ends right as you're about to press rampage
rend SERIOUSLY dosen't belong in fury
Bad tuning
Not being able to take enraged regen without a dps loss is kinda cringe. Not the end of the world but I do think it has to be mentioned
In general the different prios inside and outside of CDs feels very awkward as well, as it makes it a bit rougher to learn for me personally

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because things shift so much

ionic mica
#

i just think its dull 🙂

nova marsh
#

that too

ionic mica
#

it was fun for levelling and the first week of max

nova marsh
#

Fury's been working off of the same base since legion/bfa

flat willow
#

just bfa

#

legion fury was very different

ionic mica
#

and that is only because i havent mained warr since SL

cunning smelt
#

I mean I have criticisms
the fact u cant have Avatar and Bladestorm at the same time and u have to choose between them.
Slayer tree is disgusting

pulsar frost
#

i enjoyed s3 TWW fury when i breify played

#

i dont like MT in general tbh

flat willow
#

but yes rend feels very awkward on fury

cunning smelt
#

agreed

nova marsh
#

Idk if it's something else but

#

I just can't get behind current fury as an off spec

cunning smelt
#

which is why I play Thane cuz it will automatically give rend

ionic mica
#

rend you dont press any more anyway

#

either tclap or ww does it

#

outside of pure ST builds i guess

cunning smelt
#

Another reason not to play Slayer

nova marsh
#

or to raid lol

cunning smelt
#

thats fine man I agree most of your points

nova marsh
#

I honestly don't mind ava and bladestorm being a choice node

cunning smelt
#

I still like playing fury even tho playing Thane ST for the first time didnt feel right

nova marsh
#

I think that's actually good, to prevent button bloat even a little bit

#

oh yeah also

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thane ST is a disaster lowkey

ionic mica
#

its not even bloat as fury you just macro ava to reck

#

rare fury W

cunning smelt
#

Its the only build that boosts your Bloodbath dmg

#

and its RNG

#

ffs

nova marsh
#

That complaint I can apply to arms too

cunning smelt
#

its like playing mini Outlaw rogue

nova marsh
#

Outlaw rogue but what if restless blades was split into like 3 seperate sources

pulsar frost
#

lol

nova marsh
#

I also can't understate how much I dislike having multiple sources of CDR in a spec.

nova marsh
#

Idk my thing is like

pulsar frost
#

i would love having avatar back on slayer

#

its just increased 20% dps

#

imagine that with BS again

nova marsh
#

I mean I also just wish

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avatar was moved to thane

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But that's a hot take noone agrees with apparently

cunning smelt
#

its stupid but whatever

nova marsh
#

Yes

cunning smelt
#

Im used to Thane now so I cant complain

nova marsh
#

it's a hero talent choice

ionic mica
#

good thing bs is better than ava for slayer

nova marsh
#

Ignoring season start and pre patch where BS was comedically undertuned

ionic mica
#

it might as well be a passive you get when changing hero talents

nova marsh
#

at this point

cunning smelt
#

a hero talent u can choose but one abillity making you use either Avatar or bladestorm is kinda silly

nova marsh
#

I wouldn't mind if ava, rava, and BS were moved into hero talents

#

well actually I would mind if rava was because fucking delete that shit

#

I mean I'm at the point where I also dislike avatar as a cooldown besides on thane

cunning smelt
#

ravanger should a passive that just randomly appeares when u press your abilities

nova marsh
#

Yeah

ionic mica
#

lmao nah

nova marsh
#

put ravager on CS

ionic mica
#

proc rav is pointless

nova marsh
#

ravager in general is also pointless

ionic mica
#

if you want it gone, just bake the effects into other cds

nova marsh
#

Honestly no

#

don't even do that

ionic mica
#

which they did for loads of other specs just not warrior for some reason

nova marsh
#

Cleave is busted enough as is, can we please put some of that power into other buttons

#

Espically ST

pulsar frost
#

why not just have both

ionic mica
#

thane should just add avatar effects to reck, rav should just be gone and have its cleave buffs put into cs or avatar

cunning smelt
#

cuz blizzard doesnt think like that

nova marsh
#

FFS I wouldn't mind loosing some AoE if it meant I can have actual reasonable ST without needing the fucking stars to align at a quarter past noon

pulsar frost
#

why not just have strong aoe and decent or good ST

nova marsh
nova marsh
#

warrior isn't allowed to have that shit

cunning smelt
ionic mica
#

most spec trees eventually get around to being aoe and st with a couple of swaps

#

but for some reason warrior hasnt had that yet

pulsar frost
#

i like keys anyways

ionic mica
#

and its been 2+ expansions of new trees so maybe it just wont happen

pulsar frost
#

id love big strong aoe

cunning smelt
#

same brother

pulsar frost
#

and force the other 2 dps to do ST damage

nova marsh
#

We will have both wheb we get an actual rework

pulsar frost
#

i dont really care tbh

pulsar frost
#

hence why i like COl arms currently

nova marsh
#

I do care

#

It feels awful to suddenly become prot in st

#

And also I gotta point out

#

Blizz wanted hero trees to be reasonable viable in all situations

#

But ig that idea got thrown away somewhere

ionic mica
#

they say a lot of stuff

cunning smelt
#

they dont play melee classes

#

scratch that they dont play their game

ionic mica
#

its just one more roll of the dice to see if your spec/hero spec combo is good in the content you like

flat willow
#

for every class in the game

#

(except warrior)

nova marsh
#

So true man like

#

You want thane or colo to be usable in raid

hushed topaz
#

Most specs move a few talents to optimize ST / aoe, but we have to change to completely different hero talents okayge

nova marsh
#

Outside of like paladins

pulsar frost
#

first boss col is fun

nova marsh
#

That too if you're a pad monster

pulsar frost
#

adds need to die

cunning smelt
#

Odyn burst on first boss is so fun

pulsar frost
#

good prio/funnel damage

#

i see no issue

nova marsh
#

Maybe I juat dont raid enough

pulsar frost
#

i will enjoy my 99 parse tyvm

nova marsh
#

Which is actually true lol

#

Fuck raid minigame

cunning smelt
pulsar frost
cunning smelt
#

well sorry princess I dont have cutting edge

pulsar frost
#

i dont either

#

i only have 3 mythic boss kills this season

#

guild doesnt really do CE

cunning smelt
#

Im mostly pugging

pulsar frost
#

i need to be pugging 2nd boss for heart from now on but i cba tbh

hidden meadow
pulsar frost
#

kinda happy iwth guidon and gze but meh

cunning smelt
#

I have all 3 trinkets

#

idk which is better with which spec tho

#

im mostly using heart and gaze cuz thats what everyone is using

pulsar frost
#

guidon is nice with col

#

heart sims better for me but its whatever

cunning smelt
#

Gaze not being here worries me

#

but in AOE it favors Gaze so idk

candid kindle
#

that's st? with no buffs or lust im guessing?

#

oh its colo

radiant moon
#

its all about padding on adds 😄

cunning smelt
cunning smelt
candid kindle
#

jsut play slayer in st

cunning smelt
#

only playing arms in M+ for now

radiant moon
#

and mostly about adds not getting nuked for u to actually pad

candid kindle
#

same for fury lol

cunning smelt
candid kindle
#

just pl;ay slayer st

#

wtv the spec

flat willow
#

not for long since both slayer specs are getting nerfed every week

candid kindle
#

weird gaze not being there tho

flat willow
#

soon colossus doing more st than slayer

radiant moon
#

1 xpac max

pulsar frost
radiant moon
#

time for glad war to make it back to the game

cunning smelt
cunning smelt
#

and replaced by Guidon of all trinkets

pulsar frost
#

guidon slaps man

#

underrated trink

cunning smelt
#

yea but replaced my Gaze

#

kinda worrisome

ionic mica
#

get more haste elsewhere i guess

#

just keep simming as you go

cunning smelt
#

need haste enchants

candid kindle
#

sim the same but select different flasks and pots

#

and dif enchants yes

#

like for me i have enough crit as is so sims tell me to go haste flask and berserker's rage enchant

pulsar frost
#

and do you have heart

flat willow
pulsar frost
#

im kinda fine with 70k

#

tbh

cunning smelt
#

My fury doing better in ST than arms

#

thats what I simmed

candid kindle
candid kindle
pulsar frost
#

hm i have around 1.1k base with no heart and other flask/pots is a dps loss

opaque drift
#

Ive seen some top m+ streamers have an addon that plays an audio sound “kick” when something needs to be kicked. Anyone know what addon that is?

wide apex
#

no clue but cringe

mortal crag
mortal crag
sharp sequoia
#

14% mastery is low guys?!

noble pivot
#

Wheres the best place to use our voidcores

radiant moon
#

depends if u need chim trink

#

also make sure ur in prot loot spec

radiant moon
#

what it says is best stat distro

#

its prob the best

paper gulch
paper gulch
#

Are you related to Pussi?

#

Because Jussi Pussi would be sweet

unreal fern
#

Is the raid rotation for arms the same as the multi target rotation

lean geode
cunning smelt
#

I get that Cleave no longer applying deep wounds with auto-casted HS. But does it really affect the amount of damage deep wounds deal since I am applying it with MS anyway?

still cove
#

Hi gang, I landed a trial for a mythic guild and I haven’t raided at all this xpac.

Any good guides yall recommend? Going to be working my ass off this weekend learning fights and damage windows.

Trying to u see stand what fights are colo and which are slayer, etc

Will clear heroic this weekend if I can find pugs

warped owl
#

Try and watch Shirley bandit on yt for raid

olive nest
#

First 6 bosses you’ll have a fantastic time

#

After that Godspeed 🫡

nova marsh
#

Which makes this funny

nova marsh
#

Oh

#

And mythic dragons

olive nest
#

IMO
Colo on chim, dragons, vanguard
Slayer on everything else

nova marsh
olive nest
#

I like it yeah better if you’re group 1 but works for both

still cove
#

Oh lawd, thanks all hahah

#

I’m afraid of doing terribad dps but will figure it out

indigo cradle
sharp sequoia
wind hatch
#

i think colo on chimaerus is just unethical padding tbh

sharp sequoia
nova marsh
#

This tier is not ethical lmao

radiant moon
#

small adds just get nuked before you get to smash

#

same with orbs on drakes

#

no use going for pad if your demolish final hit never connects

wind hatch
#

you play colo on dragons anyway just because the 2t is good

#

for chimaerus there's no reason to play colo unless you're specifically trying to parse

#

even then you can easily parse 99 playing slayer

noble pivot
#

So sexy

somber wave
#

do you use cleave proc in st after multi target happened?

torpid acorn
#

does the lust count for the recklessness potion? i.e it will always give hast if popped during lust?

#

or still counts the stat with more rate?

olive nest
#

Lust shouldn’t effect it because lust is a % increase not a raw stat amount

#

The weapon enchant berserk and embelish hunt can proc haste and switch the pot

#

So you add cancel auras for those two buffs in your potion macro

torpid acorn
#

i have more haste than crit atm.. so i should turn it on only after ancient hunger procs i guess

olive nest
#

I would simply use light instead

#

Until you have more Crit

#

Or just whatever sim says is best

torpid acorn
#

sim says its reck, by 1,5k

#

thats why im asking. i can manage controlling the crit trink

#

just wanna make sure BL didnt affect

#

it would take a while to get more crit

vast helm
#

blue post where?

slow saddle
#

Buff warrior when?

woven rune
#

what are buffs

rich kernel
fresh spire
#

surely buffs

slow saddle
woven rune
#

ye love when roots dr my disarm

astral yarrow
woven rune
#

n other pve nerfs

#

i mean even at 3.5-3.6k i was getting gate kept from 10s

#

smh

thick kelp
#

coin something fun

stone beacon
#

i never invite rogue or warrior players to keys because 90% of them are bad

#

or they are a slayer arms

dim basalt
#

Do I level an evoker

reef prairie
#

Chair spec

ivory tinsel
#

How important are gear embelishments for arms? I use to tank an want to off spec Arms but i don't have any the crafted items (wrists, cloak) will not having those really hinder me?

dim basalt
reef prairie
#

As a bit

#

I heard its fun

#

Augmentation

dim basalt
#

ye Im only interested in aug tbh

reef prairie
#

Its strong and fun, might as well level it

smoky kayak