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Shattered the flow, lost lust with 2 deaths
Completely fucked key GG
I don't really mind thou
I don't need spire, I already did on a 14 I just wonna reroll the key
What are the chances of arms getting a buff and unh getting nerfed
0
-1
Close enough welcome back aug+fmage+spriest
Unh found to be overperforming, Arms nerfed in compensation.
+dev buff
Tbh
Before 12.0.5 arms was seen to be challenging the holy trinity and that's the greatest crime of all
I'm gonna keep it a buck, I genuinely think FDK has a higher chance of buffs
Sp? Buff coming ?
i miss frost oblit cleave
No they had their time to shine in DF SP is just lucky they didn't get the fire mage treatment
I feel like if it wasn't tied to DND Id like that
if it was pre rework frost dk and they baked dnd into remorseless winter i would actually play 2 characters
So they fixed fervor but we got nerfed in ST?
Yes
time to shut down
Great
when they adding fervor animation back
kick the dev voker
Arms warrior had a bug, it was doing slightly more damage than intended. When does we shut down the discord until blizzard gives us a buff?
Im up! Im good at crying...wait was that out loud?
we're too worn down for that
we're used to ts
crying is the only thing we got left
because we aint doin damage or be a relevant part of the raid
Really feels shitty though. Insta dying add pat with our no burst aoe and horrible ST.
How many years has it been of warrior being mid tier damage?
Arms was one of the best specs in 10.0.5 I believe
You can also count the amount of seasons prot has been meta on 1 hand
And most of the fingers are classic wow
Fury was also good in M+ in 10.1 before aug came out
prot has been meta so many season at the start but like always when warrior is on top devs go to work and nerf it
Fury was very good for a couple fights in 11.0 before the 6 nerfs in a row incident
I mean that's just a bad take
If they said udk maybe
but then you'd be playing a paladin... gross
chief also said evreything besides seat is a fury show
and like
lmafo no
I mean you can play thane in every key and you're not trolling
How are arms doing in mythic raids ? Should i stick to my fury ?
that's honestly
Very good on dragons and paladins, about the same as fury on everything else
kind of a low bar mate
Warrior in raid? Aren't you just brought for battle shout now
we weren't before?
No. Im top 5
tf kinda group are you raiding with
Hhhhhh dont ask. But i do press buttons fast
Im bored of Fury. Arms is better in March, right ?
Probably a mid tier raiding guild where all the ranged dps players dont know how to DPS their way out of a wet paper bag
No
show logs
We have four raiding teams. Our top team is 7/9 Mythic
Im in the fourth team. We struggle but we are scrappy
So our Guild is not bad
I dont get it
what race is everybodys warriors
Arab
real
Dractyr is the only answer
salam
ew
KT
Walaykom il Salam
Bro i can immune knock backs without using a leap or charge its so OP
And ur crotch is smooth
Just dont be in dragon form 5head
then ur a twink
let's be honest the human forms kinda make it worse ngl
If u want survivability / ease of life go nelf or dwarf
human
Orc
We have charge for a reason broski
Plus bladestorm plus demolish
Ur case is better mobility ?
Yes we have charge but trust glide walking
We have leap and 2 charges
enjoy your life as a ren faire face painting gone horribly wrong you asked for a tiger got dracthyr
Plus if ur a dracthyr warrior ur kinda a failure who couldnt become an evoker
I use my x2 charges on adds and boss
Its sad
Dude. That millisecond wont matter
who here is a gnome
They exist?
I am shutting down my discord now in protest
Pugged with a protection gnome once. Had to icon his ass to see him
Being a dragon on chimera is so free never get knocked back and always have charge and leap
you can't tell me that knockback is in anyway relevant
Its news to me as well
i used the atomic recalibrator on beloren and had gnome and had to zoom in to see if i was purple or gold
Charging knockbacks for rage is the way
Must give him an extra 10k dps
I save charge and leap for adds and dispell so I never get caught lacking
Are u trolling ?
you save both charges? bruv that is insane cope
And lose rage ?
I charge adds, adds die, I charge boss
You need crit haste
Yea thats sorted. I basically have all the drops in my bank
Yea 70k on a good day it seems
Yep
ya know I keep feeling like I'm doing something dramatically wrong in ST
Like I have to be
Or you dominate your tank and make him pull funnel for you each pull
Permission to take the tank out for a night of drinks before key?
Do what must be done
Saving up my cooldowns to pump up my numbers on adds doesnt feel right
Shit i'll get in bed for more dps 
If someone has the dave chappelle crack addict meme plz post it
Welcome to this tier, enjoy your stay
I’m swapping to colossus, I tried to hold out
Got removed from a +15
“XD slayer”

Nice
ya know what
I actually outdpsed the tank in ST consistantly.
(I can't believe I'm celebrating this
it's the little things in life
i accidentally started my key with st build after simming the other day
luckily the tank folded in 10 secs so it didnt matter
this is crazy, I clap a 15 as fury. smooth brain group leader
i imagine critcake with a patrick bateman routine
ive also never seen a single wrinkle on his face bro
bro is always low cortisol
toner
slayer?
Colo
oh my
anybody know a simple rage bar addon
There's actually a personal resource display by default but it's really wide and ugly
there's an addon that allows you to customize the default blizz cooldown manager that gives a useful ragebar
AyijeCDM
ur right that shit is ugly
Cleave and a genuinely disgusting demo
It's the only W our spec has now
I mean also die is fun
I got death mark
Shaman stunned
Pack still alive
Pop die
Dosent matter
Senseis resourcebars
Arcui has served me quite well too
After setting it up I like arc a lot
Its weakaura light 4 sure😁
I tried Arcui at the start but it was not very friendly to switching characters
Its not very userfriendly. But i guess u can make profiles now?
Pr well dl some good dudes setup
I set it up for Fury then I switched to my alts and found out I'd have to do it again for them so I just swapped to Cooldown Manager Centered
And sensei resource bars or something like that
I downloaded a profile for my dk-war fpr cdm and use sensei + uuf
Queued for a pit 18 and this guy won't take me and he has a warlock, brew, surv hunter, demo warlock
Doesn't know what he is missing out on
Pit is our pumper key
Needs sham
I played lastnight colossal and feels slow not sure if the talent I picked or stole (critcake) or the there Is min maxing the stats differs from slayer in m+
Hell yeah from green logs straight to 90 average
Wish I got some decent trinkets finally
Colo is slapping btw on Chimaerus and first
Colo only slaps on first if your raid doesnt eat up the adds
Yeah they do but only like first 2 sets
Then I eat
I was also fucked by the mechanic 3 times should be 95 ez next week
I gave up on everything man. I just play singletarget slayer everywhere xD
Y. Not dragons + pala
Dont do it nooo 
I love colo tbh
You suck dick do tank dps and then bam to the roof
And on Chim the intermission adds are like prio to die asap
Why not demolish them
because the Dev has already killed them
The dev was playing dk 
But if you can get 10 stack demo in + 3 cleaves thats enough
Thats pad city oof
A good dragons parse relies on your BDKs not mass gripping the adds BEHIND the melee 🙂 🙂 🙂 Kill me.
Sadly
Thats how we do it
🤣
.mny point arms parses are so freakin dependant
Sometimes id just wish thane was tune to god and just clap em
Hell no
Im so glad to not play fury
Its so boring and spammy
Slayer is alright I guess but thane 
Our guild mass gripped at a melee so they was near boss hit bosses so people can still pad boss properly
Not gonna happen ever
That is a big brain tactic.
I asked to sit out on dragon reclears. If you're not going to do it properly you're just wasting my time.
my group mass grips onto me 
although unfortunately one of our dks is literally always 2-5s late with his grip and I don't know why; really infuriating when trying to play Colo since it's so easy to whiff CS and Demo
i assume this opener, Bladestorm only for first tick and /cancelaura bladestorm mortal strike ?
Why cancel bladestorm it extends your Colo smash through tierset
ah i see
Unhinged sending mortal
I think this is for slayer anyway
but you'd want to use full bladestorm - it casts MS which extend CS
you're misreading it, fully channel the bladestorm and then mortal strike
yep, mah bad lol thats for slayer..
Are you upset
i am empty

I’m lost in thoughts
Did I just cook or did I poop?
Could this save Arms ST (both hero talents)?
Can slam perma turn into sth 
You forgot
° ravager has been removed
I unironically did forget that
Had cortisol spike when pressing slam and rend 
if i cope hard enough and remove the pad adds from M+ logs arms does better than unh dk sometimes
Would you link talent please
CcEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAgZmxsMzMzYGAAAghphxwMbLzMzMjZGzMAAAAAGbmB2iBsZGDLwAzwGNGsAmZYYwsZ2GMzAAMzwA
Also
Avatar has been removed
Hot take
I dont mind avatar
I didn't cook 
blizzard will see that and nerf cleave again
Is this official? Do you have a link?
Well they should
I made this bro 🥀🥀
I'd honestly like for MS to hit hard
I had a 200k something crit with puzzlebox and cds up
and I feel like that should be somewhat a norm under CDs without box
The only time i have fun this season is nxp 2nd boss and seat last boss, mortal striking for a million makes me warm inside
So when is blizzard gonna do something? Or are they just gonna keep us in dooky tier for raid, and nerfed in m+? AGAIN btw
We're always in dookie tier
Wtf stop touch cleave
if you buff ST, you gotta bring cleave a bit down
since our funnel becomes higher too
10% aura. 5% cleave nerf
Wdym, read the entire thing
You get more from apex
I Wish demolish would get wake of ashes treatment, get rid of that channel and slow
I just find it so annoying that classes with so much more damage then warrior ALSO has so much more of other shit, like its just not balanced in the slighest
Think the slam isn't to much of an issue more that you also have the double swing. Having it work like that paladin hero tree or just being the final slam on its own would be nice. Would be much faster and responsive at least
Aoe is competitive. Overall goes to shit after ST fights
Idk why is it so hard to develop a normal arms warr spec
Hey. #updates-midnight message
What does this look like in numbers for ST and AoE?
Ideal world.
Ravager is removed for something more simple like Cs does 200/300% more damage. Numbers have been checked and it works out stronger for St and same for aoe
Bleeds in colossus are rebuffed to allow for more St while not indirectly buffing slayer.
All non cleave abilities need to be buffed. If aura cleave needs to be nerfed.
More of our aoe talents need to be gutted and the power put back into cleaves baseline (ravagers 50%/mass execution are both bad for rotation and st/low target count)
those who lie
Only aoe talents id want to survive if given the choice would be cleave/fob/collateral. Rest can go.
Long sweep also feels so worthless when Broad is just the same thing but better.
Merge the two making broad give 18 stacks.
Sari had a good idea of execute lowering ms cost.
Bake it into ep and shoot critical thinking.
Free mortal strikes after 2x execute would help rage flow a fuck ton.
Rebake rage gen from op into overpowering finish. Given its a sub 35% node
maybe its time to take up the mantle and become a tank instead
Like old times

Now imagine we didn't have to talent cleave as its just baseline.
Ofc put it on the other side so it's connected to fob
i do geniuenly think they have a robot doing some of the .5 changes btw
or just somebody who has no idea what colossus does
clanker changes
I mean this whole patch is a mess. The changes to hunter during the middle of progress is absolutely ridiculous
cause im still pissed they added WHIRLWIND damage to practiced strikes
Should have been a 1.0 change
whirlwind damage...
but does the clanker know fury and arms had some of the worst single target in the game
in a hero talent that has to play cleave...
before it nerfed them, I mean
whirlwind
So no one know any numbers?
simming pos shows arms does more damage than unh dk looks like unh needs another buff and arms needs more cleave nerfs
-4-5% Slayer ST
Id say free hs
Is super needed
thx, and for slayer arms in M+?
@thick kelp take execute crits dw half em u get loss
Solution press exe less less loss🤣
Yea colossus smash being just dmg amp feels bad
I do agree
Like would be nice if smash did like dno 3 times as much as now?
2%?
Id like for it to be 8?
In keys at least?
Mby 2 high?
Also hs desperately needs 2 work like sd!
just revert to ToS arms 
I liked df s3
I liked both DF S2 and 3 arms, but Tomb of Sargeras arms has to be the best version ever
funnily enough, wotlk and cata arms was also kinda good
Yea theyre not gonna go back to that version
Because warrior would be actualy fun to play and strong
That is reserved for rets
its the fun thing that sort of died for me this xpac
Yea I might be the only one, but i dont think colossus is fun to play
Even slayer is kinda meh
i dont like how any of the builds play right now, so im not even playing warrior. Im just praying for changes come next tier and if not, ill just play it for progress again and then something else for farm like this tier
Didnt enjoy warrior whatsoever, so when it looked like warrior was sort of bad to mid for the last 3, i asked to just bench me entirely rest of tier and let me irl job hunt instead
Surv, outlaw and ret are nice to play imo
surv is very simple lol
and i so far dislike the pet thing
why does that shit randomly die
Surv is highly dependent on tuning though historically 
Like if MM and BM were any stronger it's decline city
I enjoyed tww S3 bomb spam a lot myself
I tried unholy at start of season and its rotation put me to sleep
Colossus so much more fun then pressing scourge strike and epidemic over and over in keys
Sl season 2 was also ok
I guess, I'll let you know next week, probably
(currently 284)
I just started playing Slayer Arms in M+. Do I need to use Bladestorm in the Colossus Smash window? It feels like their cooldowns don’t line up.
Hard to defend it anymore
As slarms big coper
Just play colossus and cleave to win
as is tradition first tier of xpacs 
hello guys where can i find other discord class comunity pls ?
Does the wowhead guides have that info? I usually just Google it
buffs post today for sure
Arms so sad it made me play Tainted Grail only to feel like im playing Arms
Its good to see the colo freaks instantly take top logs tho
Slayer in keys just down bad after .5 and recent dw fix
Yet we still aren’t considered part of the Meta
hey guys, Murder Row Fleet Feet count as embelishment? or i can make and use with my bracer and weapon embelishment?
For vorasius mythic in the last 24h (after bugfix)
Yes, 285 average ilvl
i think the dev puts "balance war for me" in the AI and just craps on everyclass starting with war
We are so back
To be bottom
Whats up with warlock tho? Is it really worse than us with all 3 spec?
dont u guys love how blizzard thinks warrior is too weak so they decide to nerf it
You can cheese in some dmg on Vora
By exe cleaving the adds
But wasting cds on them is worthless I think
They die too fast, I got a 96 just by sitting on the boss
Lose more damage going out to try and pad
Logs this tier are scuffed I don’t care anymore
If they fixate you tho, we have to go so far we are out of melee range on 1st wave
So stupid
Yes there is that which is annoying
Better than fury
at this point is like picking between a turd and poop
We doing some strat whete they are kited all the way back lol
I can only cleave executes on em 3rd pack
if your raid has 2 Demon Hunters, and due to popularity it probably does, every wave of adds is a Mirage
Nah fury is so bad
No flow to that shit
people be like "wow bad logs bro!" dude most raids dont let the adds live longer than 1second!
Youre supposed to spam but due to extreme haste you can do 2x rampage and fuck up your prio
Slayer fury is ok
But Im tired of shitty thane
Its ret paladin with 2 weapons

i actually enjoy playing both.. funny enough one of the things i really liked about warrior when trying it out on the pre-patch was the fact that reap the storm proc from MS or BT was a really feel good mechanic and reminded me a lot the times of windfury on classic/sod
oh boy, they were quick to adress it with the fun police
I played mostly fury since Legion but this is like the worst iteration
They are quick to shit on warrior yeah
I do genuinely question why the devs are so reluctant to make war good / competetive
I think what annoys me how raging blow is just trash
Aren’t we quite a popular class?
so bugfix costed us a %5 st nerf ? when they will stop
actually somewhat popular yeah
not top 3 but like 5th or 6th
warrior players also keep playing warrior, lot of current dk players are fotm rerollers for example
what if they bugfixed it, to increase DW damage by 100% today
we are still shite then
What are we looking for overall DPS (col) wise in keys around ~15s or 16s? Obvi can depend on group and the ways your tank pulls, but what number do you normally land around.
Why is everybody using the omission of light and occlusion of void set. I have 289 purloined wedding ring. It sims better when i sim it? Is the sim wrong or am i stupid?
160k to 180k probs
I think Im losing to the lfg boss
3h in total without a single invite atp
160k might b abit low end at that range cuz im doing this on my weekly 12's
What i really feel about Warrior, specially Arms is that we lack serious class identity.
The Mastery is a good example.. what kind of non-imaginative crap is that? extra damage when wielding 2H, like theres an alternative?
We have no burst, making our damage profile quite flat, but unlike a burst class that is rewarded by using his CDs at the right time, we get no reward if we maintain uptime on the boss.
i believe that trade-off is only logical.. but no.
Arms specially has one of the most serious cases of rigid builds, having to make a choice between good AOE or ST (mediocre), no flexibility whatsoever.
Resource Managing, this pisses me off. most classes are rewarded well if they manager their stuff. Arms is stuck in a loop where if you manage your rage well you do mediocre damage, if you dont can't press any ability.
That’s exactly how I feel.
Feel like Warrior needs a complete redesign from the ground up
idk i feel like we need rage gen buff + more power into our sht
i like how the class plays except for akf waiting cuz i ran out of op stacks in exe
give ms + hs like 15% buff
exe like 10%
we would most likely end up middle of the pack anyway
yeah same
what i meant was we prob would be middle of the pack after those changes
i dont want warrior to be op, just be viable in raid
like cmon
i want to not having to parse 99 just to keep up with people parsing blue
i think thats reasonable
yesterday pugging HC Crown
the warrior parsing 85 was below a 47 unholy
warrior parsing 99 was on par with frost mage scratching his balls
theres no rewarding feeling playing warrior
what boss are
... HC Crown?


Have no fear bois, we're getting patch notes (maybe) today for more nerfs
typically class tuning on friday but who knows
pretty sure they're doing one more tuning at least from what ive heard
AI says that we need to buff aug, demo, unholy and devourer. Don't think that warriors are even in the mix
true
ddh, udk, aug, dlock buffs inc
Honestly I only care about the parse
If Im like top 5 and mf above me blue parse ggs you suck
I WISH IT WAS AI
Warrior insta S+ tier
Did you also make this yourself just like I did?
Also that rend buff is laughable
but you still have to press it to have enough rage generation 😄
Put some respect on rend, it's the only reason you are allowed to press buttons in aoe
guys a question. i only use demolish with CS. do i try to sync also avatar with CS or just use it when available?
Hold avatar for Cs yes
even if its 15 sec+ cd?
Yes, avatar is worthless without Cs
does the same aply for ravager?
Nice
You hold ravager for Cs yes
or wrath
Don't just throw a ravager alone
Rend is pretty good damage per cast and gives back rage. its not that bad. its just not a fun to use ability
Agree to disagree
its up there
again, its the problem i was talking about. you are not rewarded if you keep a good uptime. you're just not punished.
thats bad design
sorry but what is heroic strike for?
Rend is pretty bad damage per cast lol
Unless aoe
that print is pure ST
Rend hasnt been this bad in all of TWW
dont understand the question
Sorry, I just started the game. What is that ability for?!
Heroic strike is a proc that turns Slam into a new ability. it has one of the highest AP ratios for arms. 600% AP. and also buffs your next colossus smash to give more damage amp
it has high prio in the rotation
It also gives a stacking buff that increases mortal strike and cleave damage, and gives you armor penetration
So all around more damage
Hey if I craft a weapon to 285 then get another 2 hander does it consume crests to upgrade?
up to 285 is free
Awesome. So it’s basically 100% worth crafting cause you can use your craft wep as offhand for fury later on
works like that yes
Nice thanks
I use the Blizzard illuminated assist. So when it illuminates it is ok to use it?
Guys, I need a macro to change stances and found
#showtooltip
/cast [stance:1] Berserker Stance; Battle Stance
But it doesn't work
Well first of all you do not have berserker stance as arms
If its illuminated that usually means its proc'd and 100%. You wanna spend that proc asap
Oh
#showtooltip
/cast [stance:1] Defensive Stance; Battle Stance this?
Ok thank you
I still have a question. I can't get 5 stacks of War Master. Where am I going wrong?
ppl going so aggrosive to warrior, i keep getting decline for key 6 and 10 while i am 3200 rio :l
Welcome to the club
I will be forever stuck in that rio
is pit worth bonus rolling on?
sim
but probably yes
like, I can't see your gear, idk how many mythic bosses you are killing, I don't know anything from that question
not sure if this is the appropriate channel, does anyone offer any coaching ? Progging on M crown and analyzing my logs is the worst part of me as a raider
How do you guys play paladins hammers+divine tool overlaps
Hammers from the other groups are so hard to dodge because they are tight and divine toll shields are enough to kill you if you arent topped
I usually pop dstance sr there and i dont have that big issues survining there but im loosing so much uptime
How do i maximize dmg there
also looking for this
Slayer?
More arrows
Hi guys
I was just checking Arms warrior on murlok io. Is there any reason everyone is going night elf warrior? Because i cant find any information on this
Can someone explain?
shadowmeld
shadowmeld can cheese mechanics
Thanks
Guys, aren't we supposed to get a proc buff for heroic strikes? It doesn't show any overlay on the screen or proc buff
it only shows on slam
my slam doesn't change either T_T
Do you have it macro'd to something?
Maybe he’s talking about the passive when he uses it
somehow its now working after a reload ._.
you dont
Can someone please confirm priority
3+ targets:
cleave>mortal strike> overpowered >exec proc > slam/exec filler ?
Single target
Mortal strike > overpowered > exec proc > slam/cleave/exec depending on boss % ?
I heard for ST slam above overpowered but overpowered reset mortal strike so I thought it would be better
slam is higher than sd proc, if i remember correctly
especially when no dw on target
I trolled AA 🙁
Oh wow ok
i'm talking about colo, ofc
the wowhead guide will show it better but we dont cleave in ST any more, and you dont slam in aoe
dw is good
no dw is bad
Sorry what's dw
deep wounds
And heroic strike > mortal strike? 😮
Ok perfect, I wasn't tracking it 😅
yes but i think someone said recently it really doesnt matter which way around you do these as youll press the other one immediately after anyway
makes very little difference to your damage
Can i play ravager avatar and colossus togheter with a single button?!
no as csmash and ravager are on the gcd
know this, but hmm
sd proc is better than dw sustain?
Ok 👍🏻
i doubt it makes much difference, and you would be fishing for a slam crit anyway. chances are your MS has already crit, and maintaing DW isnt any more damage than reapplying it
the bleed damage will happen either way and it only does damage
you can macro colo / avatar
will send my macro gimme a sec
also wanted to ask
am i stupid? but dw talent wording says that overlapping dmg applies to new
but it doesnt
when i first logged in arms in tww i thought that i'd have a wonderful execute phase, as it was before
#showtooltip Colossus Smash
/cast Avatar
/cast [@mouseover,harm,nodead][@target,harm,nodead] colossus smash
/cast [@player, known:Ravager] Ravager;
like resetupping dw every gcd looked good on paper, but it just doesnt work as told
if you reapply dw, it takes the damage you wouldve lost out on by refreshing it and adds it to the new bleed
its just to stop you worrying about refreshing the bleed "early"
yup
does this even cast ravager? coz even if that does isn't just a waste of global to extend collosus?
Ah thank you ! I will try to save her but I don't know if I can 🤣
uhuh, now i get it
so you just get some of dw back
i thought it stacked initially
no it just increases the dps
you guys are much nicer than the druid discord
guess thats just too much
thats why we dont get buffed 😄
buff udk
Ravange better befor macro?
😅
nope, just refuses to work so instead of fixing it i just cast it manually
👍🏻
it will never work cos you have 2 spells that are on the gcd
fair
just press ravager before csmash if you are about to spam cleave
you would want control over when you press rav anyway
you esentially dont press it outside of 3x cleave window from smash anyway
its just merciles bonegrinder at this point
How do i get 5 master of war charges? I get up to 3 at most, maybe I'm doing something wrong
by not pressing CS on cd
be lucky, dont be unlucky
hs when you have it / spend it via cleave
and pray to rnjesus
I've been sending CS Demolish and then Ravager. Not sure if it is better but it feels like it
@thick kelp do i take guiDON or a bonus roll out of vault
Wrong reply
Guys I wanna balance my stats between two specs without spending my gold on enchants, how do I know which gems are better for fury and arms together
in colo if u demolish 1st you might want to ravager after
Yeah I meant to reply to someone else but either way it works
fury plays haste / mast arms crit haste
Outside of pull I always send Demolish before Ravager
you cant really ballance stats for both
fuck
id suggest pick a spec (we suck while in both in raid) and just stick to it
and switch to whatever they buff
if they ever buff dps warrior
yea I just wanted to check if its possible without spending money for the spec I wanna play
Like I wanna play arms for M+ and Fury for raiding
you could sim but if you wanted to just guess you would probably haste crit, it wont make a huge difference
any of the 3 of haste crit/haste mast/crit mast
Pivot to only playing arms, you wont regret it
Yeah if I was to choose I would just play Arms
this is the worst season for me in the history of wow i am not even being invited to raids because i am a warrior 😄
thats cap
Thing is mast is huge on fury while arms without crit feels so bad
i get invited to raids fine
playing mast arms temp is fine
Someone has to buff other phys specs
or a higher ilvl, more progressed candidate signed up 🤷♀️
till you just get a set for crit arms
they don't want warriors on fights like crown and beloran :p
i get invited while theres already a prot warrior so :D
nah talking about guild runs :p
even when i historically did very well they just don't wanna bother with warriors
i figured guilds doing those bosses at this point would need warm bodies more than whatever is optimal
Yeah but you gotta carry it P1 and P2
Same as lura also we slap in P3
Or whatever the phase before the secret phase is
but are there classes that are faster in their rotation, right?
sadly we all know that's not how the community works, it's a copy paste "meta" thing
I still favor Fury ngl, far more satisfying to play, still I think Arms is better than the time when I played TWW
Our raid team Is like 19 dps and we just got to palladins
slayer was fun before changes
later in TWW i was doing very well with arms
just early was trash
Late ce guild things
i dont think i could handle the perpetual progress thing people have going on
Not good enough to get a better one sadly. My 1st myth tier was nerubar 1st CE was gally
Started raiding in vault of the incarnates
just need to guild hop a lot til you find your home or people with the same goal as you
Then after 1-2 tiers everyone starts having different goals and you do it all over again.
hasnt been the case in my guild since forever luckily
i mean maybe 298 weapons will make us good 
I'd agree if current fury wasn't an abomination
whys that?
The rampage apex is extremely jank and makes reck feel awkward, especially when reck ends right as you're about to press rampage
rend SERIOUSLY dosen't belong in fury
Bad tuning
Not being able to take enraged regen without a dps loss is kinda cringe. Not the end of the world but I do think it has to be mentioned
In general the different prios inside and outside of CDs feels very awkward as well, as it makes it a bit rougher to learn for me personally
because things shift so much
i just think its dull 🙂
that too
it was fun for levelling and the first week of max
Fury's been working off of the same base since legion/bfa
and that is only because i havent mained warr since SL
I mean I have criticisms
the fact u cant have Avatar and Bladestorm at the same time and u have to choose between them.
Slayer tree is disgusting
but yes rend feels very awkward on fury
agreed
which is why I play Thane cuz it will automatically give rend
rend you dont press any more anyway
either tclap or ww does it
outside of pure ST builds i guess
Another reason not to play Slayer
or to raid lol
thats fine man I agree most of your points
I honestly don't mind ava and bladestorm being a choice node
I still like playing fury even tho playing Thane ST for the first time didnt feel right
I think that's actually good, to prevent button bloat even a little bit
oh yeah also
thane ST is a disaster lowkey
That complaint I can apply to arms too
its like playing mini Outlaw rogue
Outlaw rogue but what if restless blades was split into like 3 seperate sources
what bloat, folks just bind ava and reck anyways
lol
I also can't understate how much I dislike having multiple sources of CDR in a spec.
That's the idea I mean
Idk my thing is like
i would love having avatar back on slayer
its just increased 20% dps
imagine that with BS again
I mean I also just wish
avatar was moved to thane
But that's a hot take noone agrees with apparently
I mind cuz playing avatar on the Slayer tree takes away half of your passive talents
its stupid but whatever
Yes
Im used to Thane now so I cant complain
it's a hero talent choice
good thing bs is better than ava for slayer
Ignoring season start and pre patch where BS was comedically undertuned
it might as well be a passive you get when changing hero talents
at this point
a hero talent u can choose but one abillity making you use either Avatar or bladestorm is kinda silly
I wouldn't mind if ava, rava, and BS were moved into hero talents
well actually I would mind if rava was because fucking delete that shit
I mean I'm at the point where I also dislike avatar as a cooldown besides on thane
ravanger should a passive that just randomly appeares when u press your abilities
Yeah
lmao nah
put ravager on CS
proc rav is pointless
ravager in general is also pointless
if you want it gone, just bake the effects into other cds
which they did for loads of other specs just not warrior for some reason
Cleave is busted enough as is, can we please put some of that power into other buttons
Espically ST
why not just have both
thane should just add avatar effects to reck, rav should just be gone and have its cleave buffs put into cs or avatar
cuz blizzard doesnt think like that
FFS I wouldn't mind loosing some AoE if it meant I can have actual reasonable ST without needing the fucking stars to align at a quarter past noon
why not just have strong aoe and decent or good ST
Unironically that's not a bad idea
because blizzard has basically made us choose between aoe and ST since dragonflight
warrior isn't allowed to have that shit
why did we get -2% ST when we did MID dps
and Dev gets +8%
most spec trees eventually get around to being aoe and st with a couple of swaps
but for some reason warrior hasnt had that yet
no clue but its not that bad of an idea that why cant we just get both
i like keys anyways
I will ask the same
and its been 2+ expansions of new trees so maybe it just wont happen
id love big strong aoe
same brother
and force the other 2 dps to do ST damage
We will have both wheb we get an actual rework
i dont really care tbh
hence why i like COl arms currently
I do care
It feels awful to suddenly become prot in st
And also I gotta point out
Blizz wanted hero trees to be reasonable viable in all situations
But ig that idea got thrown away somewhere
they say a lot of stuff
its just one more roll of the dice to see if your spec/hero spec combo is good in the content you like
and it is the case
for every class in the game
(except warrior)
Most specs move a few talents to optimize ST / aoe, but we have to change to completely different hero talents 
Outside of like paladins
first boss col is fun
That too if you're a pad monster
adds need to die
Odyn burst on first boss is so fun
Maybe I juat dont raid enough
i will enjoy my 99 parse tyvm
yessir
i talking aobut mythic
well sorry princess I dont have cutting edge
i dont either
i only have 3 mythic boss kills this season
guild doesnt really do CE
Im mostly pugging
i need to be pugging 2nd boss for heart from now on but i cba tbh
Nerf Fury
kinda happy iwth guidon and gze but meh
I have all 3 trinkets
idk which is better with which spec tho
im mostly using heart and gaze cuz thats what everyone is using
logs are kinda fake this season anyway
its all about padding on adds 😄
yepyep
Now u speaking my language
jsut play slayer in st
only playing arms in M+ for now
and mostly about adds not getting nuked for u to actually pad
same for fury lol
my goat
not for long since both slayer specs are getting nerfed every week
weird gaze not being there tho
soon colossus doing more st than slayer
soon prot will do more dmg than arms or fury at this rate
1 xpac max
i hope so, maybe i can finally have ST damage in keys
time for glad war to make it back to the game
I cant be bothered playing slayer on fury anymore, Im used to thane this season
It is
and replaced by Guidon of all trinkets
sim the same but select different flasks and pots
and dif enchants yes
like for me i have enough crit as is so sims tell me to go haste flask and berserker's rage enchant
how much crit pre flask pot oil is enough
and do you have heart
no no, both specs will just do 70k single target
key or no keys
i follow the sims man idk, but i guess around 1k or more crit
yes
hm i have around 1.1k base with no heart and other flask/pots is a dps loss
Ive seen some top m+ streamers have an addon that plays an audio sound “kick” when something needs to be kicked. Anyone know what addon that is?
Probably tell me when
no clue but cringe
colo
➡️
14% mastery is low guys?!
Wheres the best place to use our voidcores
chim / pit of saron
depends if u need chim trink
also make sure ur in prot loot spec
sim ur gear using raidbots
what it says is best stat distro
its prob the best
What are your other stats
Isn't it just too much vers?
Is the raid rotation for arms the same as the multi target rotation
By "raid rotation" do you mean single target? Or do you mean slayer vs colossus more generally?
Actually either way, single/multi target and slayer/colossus rotations can all be found in the wowhead guide here https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/arms/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps
I get that Cleave no longer applying deep wounds with auto-casted HS. But does it really affect the amount of damage deep wounds deal since I am applying it with MS anyway?
Hi gang, I landed a trial for a mythic guild and I haven’t raided at all this xpac.
Any good guides yall recommend? Going to be working my ass off this weekend learning fights and damage windows.
Trying to u see stand what fights are colo and which are slayer, etc
Will clear heroic this weekend if I can find pugs
Try and watch Shirley bandit on yt for raid
Go change class
Ya know its funny were back to the 200s
Which makes this funny
Evreything is slayer realistically besides vanguard. You can run colo on first boss too if youre a pad god but I doubt the adds will live
Oh
And mythic dragons
IMO
Colo on chim, dragons, vanguard
Slayer on everything else
Is colo really that good for chim?
I like it yeah better if you’re group 1 but works for both
You will, but dw, you bring battle shout
34 crit and 24 haste
i think colo on chimaerus is just unethical padding tbh
I can do it ok 👍🏻
I mean
This tier is not ethical lmao
i feel like going colo has no reason
small adds just get nuked before you get to smash
same with orbs on drakes
no use going for pad if your demolish final hit never connects
you play colo on dragons anyway just because the 2t is good
for chimaerus there's no reason to play colo unless you're specifically trying to parse
even then you can easily parse 99 playing slayer
So sexy
do you use cleave proc in st after multi target happened?
does the lust count for the recklessness potion? i.e it will always give hast if popped during lust?
or still counts the stat with more rate?
Lust shouldn’t effect it because lust is a % increase not a raw stat amount
The weapon enchant berserk and embelish hunt can proc haste and switch the pot
So you add cancel auras for those two buffs in your potion macro
i have more haste than crit atm.. so i should turn it on only after ancient hunger procs i guess
I would simply use light instead
Until you have more Crit
Or just whatever sim says is best
sim says its reck, by 1,5k
thats why im asking. i can manage controlling the crit trink
just wanna make sure BL didnt affect
it would take a while to get more crit
blue post where?
Buff warrior when?
its what you get called after leaving the gym
surely buffs
Our hotfixes makes us worse😅
ye love when roots dr my disarm
Warrior is relegated to keys for 3400
i never invite rogue or warrior players to keys because 90% of them are bad
or they are a slayer arms
Do I level an evoker
Chair spec
How important are gear embelishments for arms? I use to tank an want to off spec Arms but i don't have any the crafted items (wrists, cloak) will not having those really hinder me?
wdym
few %
Tbh nothing i just always say aug player is in the chair
As a bit
I heard its fun
Augmentation
ye Im only interested in aug tbh
Its strong and fun, might as well level it
guess the better question is what did you craft for prot instead, because they all tend to use the same embels


