#arms
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my SP is gonna sit in NXP for rerolls
i will roll for weapon, after i got my second nexus ring
3 items left in nexus, so if rng doesnt fck me, will be next week
puzzlebox, raid trinket or extra roll? im lost.
bro actually got 4 trinkets in vault
wonder if there is a cap on the bonus roll thingies
axaxxaaxa
I hope not
idk guidon is very good for m+
Pbox is very good for m+ 
my rolls this morning are going great in pit. helm and cloak so far 1 more left hopefully 2h or neck but ill probs get belt lol
and raid
puzzle box is very good but i refuse to play it
i plan to just pile them up (on) and then not play warropr in raid until like last 3 weeks and walk out full bis
aagardhntas
i'm only focussed on m+. pugging 3 bosses in raid
guidon then
you say this like they are taking you in for that 3 weeks

i would reclear first tho
but guidon will be replaced with 2 raidtrinkets, no?
Aagaardhntas oneshot mtyh track dagger into survival one trick
ill weasel my way in 
im not sure as i dont have gaze heart and guidon on myth
but i think guidon is bis
in m+
but i also heard gaze has some funky scaling
at 298
Holy based
but you play 2h in raid on survival
tmy told me survival owns
is that true
Then they'll have to give me a stick
it does a lot of damage but somehow has less nuance than fury
daggers r for keys only
is the bug we bellyached all last week about fixed yet?
its like -6% dps to play in raid with daggers vs 2h
what the helly
how is that possible
ramp tc ramp tc ramp tc
spec is legit 3 buttons
raptro striker, mongoose strike is same button
bomb
and then you have kill command that buffs the next 2 abilities
u play mongoose bite?????
yyou never press anything without that buff
pack leader?
y
idk if its bite, i just press the button that converts to another button and then back
where is rodwave gg
Is it worth it to bonus roll Solarfire Prism? I don't raid
the boomstick thing is kinda weird though
doesnt fit whatever i feel survival hunter is lol
randomly pulling out a shotgun while im stabbing idiots
yeah do it
wait mongoose bite is gone
AHHAHAHAHA
:omega
Bring back caltrops
but your rotation is 3 buttons where one of them is to buff the other 2 lol
Or should I spend my bonusrolls in WS for crit haste gloves? Have heroic vers tierset ones
U JUST NEVER PRESS ANYTHING WITHOUT TIP
sentinal is kinda fun though
fuck sentinel
if you feel that is funny
where is mongoose bite
check packleader bm hunter st rotation
ye they just removed mongoose bite
talk about nuance xd
xddd
and people say fury is braindead
fury being melee automatically makes it 90000000 times harder in m+ than bm
Im sure thats doable via one Button macro
nah that natures ally bufff is actually kind of a ball ache
nah the cooldowns on the stuff is varied and with resets, so doubt it
apes together strong
eagle
ye i can see it
basically a short duration avatar with a charge attached
Its funny how Blizzard thought "lets give the bowmaster a shotgun and some bombs, then call it a melee"
bad take
yuh
is it fun
also, their st rotation is the aoe rotation, so there is not a lot going on
idk if its fun
but its as braindead as warrior and does numbers
is it reliant on skyfury
hasnt felt that way
samesies
im not a radier
2 daggers
Is it true that MM got completely murdered for m+ ?
you just onebang the dagger from nexus point and then craft the second
Holy
fuck reset
what lvl is ur devourer
90?
man wdym u can play this shit will take
495368 years to level
if no timewalking
the all delves -> do 5 levels -> turn in + craft is not too bad
Biz's St build w/ martial prowess and OP finish has been helping alot with pugs who tend to not pull a ton
not saying worldboss lags
but
i was in that last 0.0 sec for 25sec
So having both Gze + heart
we agree next bonus roll time is just pos r
@slow saddle i try to vouch for you 
3 rolls in pit. head,cloak,ring. just want the 2h 
he took another warr...
at least now on the loot table I only have belt/2h/neck
I got chest and shoulders from my 2 free ones last week
yeah thats nice
well free ones ?
if u got em BACK they are stilll in ya loot table
Hello Warry, FoV still bugged ?
yeah well I rolled in pit once and got head and then rolled 1 in nexus and got the void ring when it was bugged
yes
so w my 2 free ones I rerolled and got chest and shoulders
so they should be off the table now
kek
thats cheating
i mean that also means its kindda rough if u wanna start rollin in nexus later i guess, but who cares
i like these new bonus roll
s
i like them a lot more than dinars tbh
You should get your item faster on avg
tbh I am thinking the ring from pit and the crit haste one from nexus is good no?
both crit haste?
That cannot be, blizzard is famous for fixing bugs quick and efficiently 
i mean sometimes i can understand it
but it feels like it'd be such a simple one to fix
Yeah a lot of times the bugs seems like they have obvious fixes, but guess they just dont have the manpower, or the warrior bug fix guy is on vacation
yea i dont work for blizzard
i dont code either so lowkey im just talking out of my ass i just want it fixed lol
Its 100% an easy fix
if it was, it would probably already be fixed
oh u were talking about apex
like raptor strike upgrading
itself
is the apex ye
and u just play st rota in aoe what the helly
i am pretty confident Warrior is pretty low priority at blizzard hq, played almost all classes and this class just feels almost as left behind as rogue
yup
They only like fake melee specs like ret paladin and Dks
design is stuck in df
thats kinda why im saying its somehow less nuanced than fury lol
maybe im tweaking but seems more engaging than fury tho
boomstick sounds kinda cool to press icl
gunning down everything
Slayer arms is my fav but they had to kill it
idk outside shotgun, there isnt much about the class the feels oomph or however you wanna describe it
better demo
what isnt better demo at this point
fyralath
nah i just padded on the roots
cba mickey mouse strat so that my raiid wipes anyway
man i dont remember actually
compared to shamans and shit
yeyeye
@stable fiber crazy lura dam
at least thats what i did
the kill is like 25 seconds faster than most other damn
oh yeah it was reset for na yday
not that weird then, but like fast kills earlier were 9:14-17 ish
with the norm being 9:30-35
WHY IS VIL 285
the thing is
our p4 could have died faster also
we almost killed the boss before the p3 gate
holy
we did yeah
nice
dont have to do the whole last part of p3
dont wanna play the last part in a casual guild
would b like extra 50-100 pulls
there for skyfury
its like 2 things
him and the bm hunter got beef, and also ele apparently just sucks to play
(if he went ele the bm would play surv)
its like for fun beef not actual beef iykwim
but the hunter played surv regardless
surv bangs though 
ohh
1 is bm the other is surv
BM just hits boss till it dies
our kill time is crazy asf though
for like a effectively 19 man p4
18 man at the end
eh it was mostly 20 men
nvm
xff
couple deaths later in the phase
may i ask here for vault tips? its between hc plume and myth solarflare
sabo oneshot p4 lol
close to sub 9 mins
xdd
we trolled with blazes
was about to ask
how many blaze shit my pants wipes
the boys still lived
now I didnt blaze noting
but it was a horror game some pulls
i also only got it twice in those 11 pulls
so
Arms without embellishment for Dragons or Fury?
why would ur arms be withouth embellishments
just leave the hunt embellishment on
Because I’m a Fury player with a crafted weapon and cape, and the non-crafted weapon sims higher.
uhh
ig u just run the non crafted then
whats ur comp
is what matters more
do you have a blood dk
Yeah, I could ignore the sim. It didn’t make sense to me either. I used crafted weapon for Mythic Silken Court to keep my embellishment back then.
Yes
do you have TWO blood dk's
Glad they keep finding warlock bugs to fix and still haven’t found a way to fix fervor slams ☠️
Yes, we have two
play arms
Alright, bet! I’m gonna try it out!
just slam the colo m+ build
can use cs + demo on pull
then avatar like 30 seconds into pull
I feel like I have so many more binds than TWW Arms or Fury.
cleave when 3 targets to funnel onto bosses
I gotta get used to it or map it better.
people clown on warrior, but i go play other specs and we have like 10 more buttons then other classes
dh i have like 8 keybinds
Yeah, Arms has me using a lot of Shift. Even Thane isn’t so bad.
with 2 bdks you 100% play arms
with 1 bdk its like 50/50 play w/e ur comfortable on
no bdk u play fury 100%
Might also be because I’m used to having certain binds in other places, maybe I can work on some macros or rearrange some shit
Dumb ass question but will Blizzard’s assist help guide me roughly along the right path with Arms?
Suggested highlights.
I figured it might because there are a lot of abilities but it’s pretty straight-forward, it seems like.
can we sim droptimizer but with embellishment replacement? 289wep sims 0.1% better but replaces embelisment so i want to add my extra arcanoweave in here to see the actual gain
Should I take Gaze myth track (have it on hero) or myth salhadaar neck with avoidance?
Is fervor of battle fixed ?

Insane indie company
Dlc
Everyone’s gotta pay £20 to getfervor of battle fixed
already paid more then 20
gg my arms outsims my fury in ST now
Thinking of switching to arms now, but it feels so slow compared to fury. I know its better for vanguard, but is it ahead on the last 3 as well?
for logs on 2/3 of them yes
Hmm 😒 I hate slow specs 🤣
then play fury
most of our good players play, what ever is like 1% better at like last 3
i dont think the gap is as vast as it may seem
u can deffo prog those as fury just fine 😉 ure still not great ofc. and arms deffo is better last part of lura. and fury isnt good on any parts particularly id say
I can get used to it i guess.
tbh u are "fast" if u are at vanguard
but u are gettin 1% buff per week
and i guess once u kill lura u at 15% most likely
YEHAAAA!!! So next week pit prison finally ends. But im gonna get ring and cloak with regular 2 bonus rolls. Hammer gonna be the 3rd bonus roll im gonna take from vault. the best is yet to come.
which means every1 should be able to do shit, unless u got SUUUPER insane comps
yeah i have Belt + chest + weap + ring + cloak left ^_^
3 out of 5 is someting i want
so we know its gonna roll chest- cloak 😄
big
Full bis is 102k
sooo
u are saying theres a CHANCE 😄
that i could hit 99K
coz bis ill never prob have
man its depressing 102k
like fr
whats ret ? 115?
ok so ret only 108
hmm i still feel like ret has so much more ST how is that possible ?
wait frost dk sims 122? and uhdk 133? are these old sims ?
No they still sim high
Fellas
Can u get tier token from bonus rolls or are tier tokens excluded from bonus rolls?
Yo anyone got this bug? my talents import and exports are fucked and i cant even sim bc this bs loadout loads in with 105 points in the arms tree. i checked with the addons and its bugged with 0 addons loaded
guys quick question: mythic track weapon is more important then having right stats right? i have a high haste low mastery myth weapon in vault. how can i tell if i should take it. or buy more bonusrolls onto PiT or just bonus roll gaze and take the weapon? is that simable? im thankful for any help!
you can add any item to top gear and sim it that way
Will you make more bonus rolls in the pit? If you do, then you will likely get crit/haste mace anyways
but the vault thing is guaranteed, while rolling in pit is in no way guaranteed
if u do allready have crafted honestly id prob just take bonus roll, u gotta get trhough A LOT of pit items
its a risk ofc
nope no craftted one
thanks sir!
hmm changes things id say. id prob take the weapon for insta gain then
and keep in mind at some point u will replace. but such is the way of wow
power nor or more power later is always the choice
i would've taken weapon and went for the techincal bis very late
i rolled there 3x already and got rid of the bad cloak already. now is the question if i keep going or blow the 2 rolls on mythic gaze and take the weapon. and optimse later on
wait u dont have gaze yet?
then theres no choice
u roll gaze take weap
until u have gaze imho
y i mean id roll vora and chimera mythic then obviously
now i got both now. so im just sending into pit, but i allready had mythic weapon pre rolls and crafted ^_^
okey okey shit thought pit was the play last week, but i couldnt clear mythic there anyways
yeah so then u actually got 2 bosses u wanna bonus roll from in raid 😄
but ofc chimera is where id spend it first
then id prob look into rollin on vora as well 🙂 dno how many u compete with for that one depends on raids i guess
okok, i also think the differnce between stats on weapon aint that big
i mean it is
only secondary stats thats scuffed
we dont want versa mastery
but ofc i mean as u said its not HORRID 😄
but its more about being effective 😄 than anything else
but i would take weapon instantly and take the dmg increase
it has high haster tho low mastery
heck i did that WHEN i had crafted weap ( before bonus rolls though )
not sure if it makes itt better
i mean haste is quite good id take it, and smile tbh
what did u craft then btw?
bracer - cloak combo ?
yes sir
y deffo just take weapon and upgrade it
and sitting on 510 mythic crest after farming today
u wont waste crests. maximum waste is a bonus roll, but lets be honest if it takes u 1 or 2 more weeks
this char just got max lvl like 1 week ago
i dont think thats reachable i just wanted to wait on raid and rolls this week before i craft or upgrade. tried to minmax 😄
or rather didnt wanted to make mistakes
i mean u can ofc start by upgradin bracer - claok to max if u havent
just for ease of mind
then upgrade weap as well
i presume u send all hero crests ?
yeye i have hero discount from main and spend all. and crafted wrist + cloak arconweave
ok 🙂 well take weap upgrade and smile
and hopefully u roll gaze
in drops
and have 2 bonus rolls for pit later 😄
i hope so sir ❤️
for me its gaze - pit - npx rolls
so now its pit - npx if i roll weap + belt from pit next week imma look into npx ( just for rings )
you have lots of vault gear tho? i feel like i have many crests but nothing to spend on
yeah
i mean it is what it is 😄
cant complain when i get shoulders from roll, and gaze in a week last week i got feet
so i dont had any saved up
so after i send on all the "main" stays i just meme em
like legs-chest-helm-trinkets-weapon
but lookin back i should prob have held feet for another week or so, but honestly our dmg is so bad anyways who cares 😛
hahaha i feel like when its your main and you playing it actually you cant rlly wait all the time on alts its way easier
What do you guys think about Guidon? I was originally planning to target mythic gaze with bonus rolls. (Currently using myth hunger & crucible)
best drop there get it
Guidon or myth gaze with bonus rolls u mean?
I got Guidon and it sims ok
But its weird for arms as it doesnt align with anything really
It alligns with avatar no?
gaze foir arms is way better
Choose to go for windrunner spire gloves instead
It doesnt, because avatar is not 1.5 min cd
Because of Anger managment
lets go 8)
How big is it a ST loss to drop bloodbourne for the SS talents?
ye if its those haste - crit gloves those are pretty great
I just notice that wowhead has bloodbourne on basically every fight, I would have thought more sweeping strikes would work well on say mythic imperator
i had some good stuff today
philliam been cookin man Jesus
meanwhile I got 2 different types of shoulders and a vers weapon... gz dude
Whats next then ? bonus roll wise?
dont use bonus rolls in random dungeons
i am also very confused here
i hope u meant in vault btw 😄
ha, yeah
i had socket last week 
and we arent far enough in raid
you got mythic feather?

possible
very dependant on when its topped off
where as i feel gaze and heart are pretty steady
feather is prolly dope in academy
y
but i mean i dont think i will get to beloran
b4 i will have all the rolls in the world anyways 😄
Hey guys making an arms warrior alt, colossus for dungeon leveling I'm guessing?
does this mean u will roll for pit one more tim
to be totally honest
id level as fury
for what
belt
my fourth roll was helm
who let this guy in?
trueth, but which dungeon can u roll belt from then?
trueth 😄
or just turn a mythic belt from raid into cata belt
i guess this is a talk for next wednesday 😄
go slayer dude - colossus requires a bit more structure
who drops belts ?
collosus also requires gear
like no crit collosus no thx man shits cursed
dragon dn
hmm we are proggin dragon, i dare say i am not first man on belt in my guild
as we actually have some of those meta classes 😄
my RL does have a soft spot for me
what/who did you sacrifice bro... come clean
crit mastery 🙁
xDD
lol
id rly play slayer fury tbh as leveling
we aiming for this or the shadow dmg ones ?
u will slaying yourself out the group
and switch over once u hit max lvl
id wager this one
but u can sim it
my aim is with bis gear, sim now kinda skews it
does bis gear even exist or is it just psyop
but it does seem like we are trying to keep versa to absolutely 0 😄
From what i can c is haste seems to be lower gear scale if u dont have that absolutely insane haste ring 😄
so u prob want haste even more i dno ?
like its a fully haste weap + ring we are missing id wager that means we prob want more other places if possible
like boost are prob crit - haste choice if possibl
yup
i refuse to believe fully upgraded guidon is a 1.3% increase over crucible (+18 route SEAT sim)
id guess, but u might have to sim, mby wedding band is better
than set dmg hard to say its pretty close
bis is just the best simming combination of every possible item in a 5min st sim
Idk someone told me that crit haste from pit is BiS and I am a dumbass
😄
But I swear both occlusions were bis before
i mean it could be esp if u are collous
Yeah But I already got both so I am incredibly sad
but im rollin pit anyways until i get it then in swithcing to npx prob for rings dependin on vault
on mythic track?
Br
I went iiinnn
one thing i dont understand
That's like the realest thing said about that issue. SIM YOURSELF! Use the bis list as a loose guide but sim yourself. Be a wolf among sheep
in a multi targetscenario why mortal strike takes prio over OP ?
op cast Dreadnaught
tbh just enjoy the journey
and gear ya self:D
Colossal might, Demo CDR
Sweeps
Is our bread
is it just me or you guys having a hard time to join a key in pug? i can't even get invite to 10s ?????
loads of players few tanks
on a 3target i get it, I am mostly concerned about 5+
it was easier to get into a 16 today than a 10-12
DN is dookie compared to what it was 🥀
I will never forgive Blizzard
well demolish does more dmg on 5 targets
we want it back asap
Demolish buff stacks from MS
Well that is what I meant
i am more than 3k and can't get invite to 10s 😄 i wanted to try my mage alt low item level with low io and i am getting more invite than my main
3% from each stack is a joke imo
i feel like community has something negative against arms warr in m+
At least double those
dno man i got near 3.5k and 282 didnt get inv in the bonus roll keys this morning
ah i meant baseline buff
its a CRIME that dreadnaught doesnt fuck, would also really help in raid 😄
Stigma from prev seasons, no shot you're getting invited in pugs
YOU MUST have friends
It did on beta, never make it to live sadly
tbh didnt struggle last season either as arms
oh i know brother
best iteration we had was beta ;D
thanks for the answer i feel like a delusional if we all having similiar experience then it's a shame xD i must have find some guild to push ig
I absolute hate pressing rend 😄
I am probably exaggerating, but it is my current experience
what kindda cursed build is that
282 ilvl, finally, still declined in 12s
280 and declined to +10's
ppl still bonus rollin
didn change the build xD is it that bad?
its got little to do with class more to do with being dps
I mean, does it matter if I am not a meta devourer, udk or demo if we are doing a low key?
Should be easier to get in kinda
nah
lower keys higher meta slaves
thats nothing new for real
like i c way more requirements in 10-12s
than in 14-17s so far
I can always push towards the end of the season when it doesn't mean shit
bois, im doing mythic chim today, should i try to roll for mythic gaze? i got the hc. or should i roll for something in m+
then u prob hit 18-19 and ppl are hard copin for only great setups
but ANY phys comp they need arms
so we get decent amount of spots tbh
need to redo all of it
Everyday I witness someone taking a ret or enh over me in a phys comp idk
roll gaze. but make sure u are set to Prot loot spec
o7
then they have prot warrior
which is pretty cringe 😄
Bro I am trying 13s 14s
but i dont rly struggle to bad gettin invites, not more than u do when u are trying to get into keys
I am super behind everyone
I started 3 weeks late
and have good rio from last season and this season
Idk what to do
like i dno what to say, ppl are pretty selective
in their 13-14s if they can get a bitter rio // spec they choose it
I understand, it makes sense
Yeah, but 0 tanks
And 258 healers tryna do a free +14
the game shouldn't allow to it's community behave like this at first place these things are killing mmorpg exp
like communtiy is punishing you just because you've started 1 week late
Having friends or a helpful guild completely removes this problem
It's not that atrocious
yeah but not everyone has to play with friends/guilds
this is pure toxicity you know what i mean
Just do your own key if your behind
That's basically your only option to catch up
Once you get like 4-5 keys timed in that bracket you can usually start seeing invites to other keys of the same level
i am doing my keys and to get higher io i am trying to do 14-15 keys, but people selective as he said they are looking at your io not your key
Unless you're way below what you should be for those levels I doubt that is a huge issue
It can just take a while to find tanks and healers right now at odd key levels
14-15 is a bit weird since a lot of people who push are past that point
so it became something like dead end
Hey guys setting up my UI atm, I keep seeing like battlelord or some shit the thing that reduces ms rage in text but it's half covered by my action bars, how do I move it? I don't think it's my ui addon text
yeah thanks tho
Or how do I just turn it off I'm gonna just use MS when I can anyway most of the time
No tanks
search settings for smth like floating combat text
I don't get how people play with any floating text
This?
Just a bunch of garbage on your screen
Yeah it's so shit wtf
I mean the aura is pretty cool for procs right but I don't need text to tell me yo MS has -33% rage bro like cmon
Aight that fixed it thanks man
Don't really think I am
Honestly think its more people playing with on by default and getting used to it
Honestly fuck dps lfg
I say go tank and just spam keys
Brick them if needed
I spent 1hr staring at lfg screens for 12-13s when Ive done 14,15
What's you char?
Same char name as my disc name
Yeah not sure why you wouldn't get invites tbh
Tanking is the way
Also not difficult at all
If you want to get things done quickly
Are you guys consistently getting two demolishes in your colossus smash window?
It can happen with perfect uptime yeah
Seem to be only getting one and having to hold a demolish for a long time
You can send it without CS
We fixed?
Ppl too fixated on the stupid magic comp
Gotta have aug, dev and demo
Me every day buddy.
Yep it can be annoying
It gets even worse when you get higher
Demo isn't as bad anymore it's usually Unholy
Its honestly super annoying
And then you get a key and tank bricks it on 2nd pull
Every once in a while you see a phys comp that needs a warrior
Thats how I got my higher timed keys
And it was so EASY
Still you see like 1 phys comp for every 30 cookie cutter meta slave comps
My success rate has been pretty decent when doing 17s surprisingly
actually, it gets a lot worse
arms is part of the second best comp in the game right now
arms is like 5th best dps spec in the game for m+
Ive kinda stopped trying for now, dont really wanna push on tank
It's a bit misleading with Arms though
PvP is better roi lol
It's a lot stronger in a coordinated group than a pug
Or mythic raid
It's strong but the ST is just so bad
I know you are being sarcastic and we are being crybabies, but we are indeed in the trenches atm
Your tank has to funnel some mobs for you
It was never about the damage
Tbf that's not only and issue with Warrior
most seasons will be a lot worse than this one
Well other seasons were worse true
Oh we are not getting this perf anytime soon
There was no phys comp
Back to tww days
Basically any class that isn't in the meta comp or doesn't have lust has a hard time
I just tried floating damage numbers out
Not bad on ST
AoE it's just garbage on the screen
If you reskin and filter damage numbers it's nice 
Now idk if that still works since this expansion cuz I just uninstalled the addon
I have the font changed
Didn't know you could filter it
But in AoE you can even really differentiate all the damage so it's just bloat on your screen
I forgor the name of the addon but you could like hide values under a certain threshold and color crits and what not
Relaxed btw
Guess that's why it clicks with rogue, I wish I could find a stable m+ team on my rogue but it's so difficult to find the right setup since our only comp is basically with arms warrior and everybody's playing different shit tbh
They're chilling bro
A fine collection awaits you of the friendliest fotm players
If you're aug
3.5k+ main
link CE
found a +15 key with "arms pref" yesterday evening
still remember it like some sort of a dream come true
You sure you were awake?
Still think single target is a big issue, if we get downtown like a milisec we lose 5k dps, 1 wrong pathing from tank and we chillin
that is the question i asked myself, ye
ST is not hot, no question there
tank switched sides today at electrician boss in xenas without normal call, i stood there and watched them hitting boss for like 7-8 sec, jump cd
Paladin across the room just throwing hammers
"melee"
Lmao
also imma die on the hill of pushing 4th warrior's spec
smth gladiator-like, maybe "melee" spec with some reach like throwing sh
Support spec
or yeah, something like another supp
Like usefull ones
Fucking hate avatar
Just give me dragoon 
I thought we'd get that instead of filth evoker
is there a solid comment from blizz on aug and supp specs future?
zuljin the spec, axe throwing and shit
there arent solid comments from blizz on anything xD
Honestly even if there were, would you trust it?
because if they wont add new ones, we may see aug meta for like a few years
still dont understand what they were thinking when adding a supp spec, isnt it obvious (from other mmos for example) that supps will always be effective? and they are kinda hard to balance, if there is ONE supp spec in the game lol
As per the most recent situation with addons/UI
Blizzard often overestimates their capabilities
They think they are good enough to pull it off
Spoilers: they aren't
definitely looks like it
blizz is VERY conservative and often miscalculating resources
btw, anyone elses Algathar score not been updated? My group was 40 seconds over the timer, and as they just added +1 minute on reset to the key, should we not get it timed retroactively?
That only counts for the keys after the change no
Ah, cause this was how it was in TWW. We had a Dawnbreaker with 50 sec over the timer, and then they added one minute, and on reset it stod that we had completed it in time
yeah should work, bizentein also talked about it yesterday when doing AA
y, heard Noxivs group talking about it correcting after the reset
But on Raider I cant see it right now
WHEN DO WE FUCKING FIX MW BUG
probably just incompetence as usual, just wait and see ig or keep going
yep yep
never fixing the fervor of battle/mortal wounds whatever, they don't like us
is the fix a lot of damage?
It's significant
in the next season 
not "a lot lot", but not small
especially if juggling targets in aoe
and in funnel situations
sheesh, thought about 4-5%
so pretty significant for prio damage
If my stat weights now have haste > crit I'm assuming I should just go re enchant and regem my stuff?
Depends on target count
It's 5% ish for 8T
But the lower you go the more it is
you ignore stat weights and sim top gear
if you want to check changing enchants and gems you can do that in top gear too
Just sim top gear
Stat weight doesn’t do the actual best
The only tweek ive done in terms of stats back in tww is lowering haste bc it was uncomfortable for me and upping mast to compensate
But thats a personal choice
The dif in dps wasn’t that high to force that discomfort on myself
But that’s a me scenario
Oh nice okay, I only did it becaue I'm seeing Light Company Guidon as my best trinket
I would never use that
if that is the best trinket you currently have, use it. but there are better options.
Is Gaze overrated? Gamebreaking?
Fish mentioned how it’s 5.5% loss on 5 target Patchwerk sim so on 3T aka paladins it’s about 7-8% ball park guess

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I definitely do that at least five times a day.
impressive
As a non-myth raider, what's the best trinket combo for m+?
I currently run
Gaze(hc) + Solarflare(hc) or
Gaze(hc) + Puzzlebox(hc).
I have the option to get the myth puzzle box in vault (vs a myth tier piecr) but it im not sure about that, the puzzle box is always siming really high but im not sure if its the best.
shiets jus annoying to use
Puzzle box is nice burst but it sucks to use so I wouldn’t run it personally
Exactly
I took it from first myth vault and used it for 1 week before regretting that decision and never using it again 😂
Well I mythic raid so I have myth guidon, vorasius heart, and gaze also as options
For you imo
Best possible combo would be heart from vorasius and gaze from chim
I see
Solarflare is also good
Esp as col it seems rather good
I did until i got m gaze 2day
Ill try to get the vorasius heart then since I have a hc solarflare
All I needed to hear ty
Plume is another solid option also
Plenty of good trinkets besides puzzle box
Forget that trash
I personally like my rubix cube. We will see after a week of having to solve
Im struggling to get good parses in mythic raiding. Im pretty sure im doing rotation right and trying to use the cds in correct time. But i keep failing. In this kill i did some mechanics and lost uptime but a grey parse still a bit shame. Can some one help me understand? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/V3tjmJn4ANp1hxrb?fight=22&type=damage-done
Logging as warrior simply sucks this tier
Add pad fiesta
For saladbar, You need your tanks to slowly kite saladbar near orbs so you can sweep them the whole time
That’s why log is bad aside from possible rotational errors
Thanks for advice. I actually tried in some runs to copy your loorgs timeline. Cause you do big dam. But keep failing. Can you look at my rotation a bit?
is it alright to craft boots for arms
Chimerus boots (you can catalyst) are the usual option
Can someone explain to me why plume and heart sim WAY better than gaze and heart. i tried so many different combinations. even with the Bis lists on icy and wowhead the plume sims better than gaze. am i missing something?
i have crafted weap with embellishment but i just got the POT one so i need to put embellis on something else either cloak or boots but i have myth cloak already. Still craft cloak or?
Chinese warriors also had externals 
You could temprorarily place it in your boots if you have absolute 0 chance of getting myth boots. if you wanna forget about it, put it to cloack
they are all playing colossus on the fight too
im like the only one playing slayer
@godwalker16
yeah
First major thing I noticed right away is you don’t cast rend until 1:54.. you gotta maintain that bleed the entire fight
That does damage and gives some rage from bloodsurge
Also not a single cast of sweeping strikes
You want to be sweeping orbs
is solarflare that bad ? at 289 it's simming 0.3% upgrade compared to my crucible i feel like taking the tokens is better (mainly for m+ for context)
Guys, this might be a stupid question, but how should you sim your vault? Should you include all your gear fully upgraded, even items in your bag if you have them, or only the vault items at max upgrade? And could you explain as well? It’s something we were discussing in our guild.
guys question on [Nebulous Voidcore] its max 4 this week
I sim vault based on crests available
can i have the vault token will it be 5 ?
I sim droptimizer as max ilvl equip and drops at 289 so I know what to roll for
he's playing slayer and the fight has a lot of ST
the visible "cap" wont change in your currency tab, but if you buy one w/ vault tokens you will still get the extra
I usually just sim vault item max upgrade but apparently I’m wrong
Not necessarily wrong just depends what your goal is
Are you trying to maximize dps for that specific week
ty
A specific boss?
rend is a low priority filler for slayer ST, not something you keep up all the time
Usually it’s for raiding
Yeah same here I focus on raid build ST when I sim
adds were dying pretty quick
I did the sweeping with the colossal talent 🙁
just try to have bladestorm + cs when you're soaking to get as much damage on them as you can
That’s great just be sure to use sweep when you need to fill the gaps
you entered 1st right?
Okay!
well aparenttly im wrong :p
guys when i dont have weapon crafted but i craft now and later get mythic weapon from somewhere. what do i actually lose? 4 sparks and 20 mythic crest right? thats it no?. cause i have lots of sparks witthout usage anyways
I assume if ur g2
you send all on pull and save the 2nd usage
Only sparks. Crafted Weapon is 80 crests. Myth track weapon from vault is 1/6. Upgrading 1/6 to 6/6 is 100 crest.
yeah but i can cheese the first craft right? with hero weapon. so i would technically safe a bit if i would not craft it.
nvm you just did tha sorry haha
Yeah you are right. If you have a hero track weapon 6/6 upgraded with hero crests and you get a myth track weapon next vault you would only need 80 myth crests for full upgrade. If you craft a 285 youd need 80 myth crests and loose another 20 to upgrade a myth track weapon to 6/6 next week in case you get one in vault
Where ? Mythic ?
Remember most of your parse is your raid group and spec
Question from non-warrior for title key routing. What is the % value increase for dps at 3 targets vs single target. In M+ build on 2-3 minute boss
A Joe Bozo on his UDK with 10k parses whos raid parses all 95-99 will have much easier time than you in a casual mythic guild on arms with 1k parses
Heroic parses are what gets your foot in the door so hardly a meme lol


