#arms

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latent moss
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i shall cross that bridge once i get to it type shi

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ye its 99% gonna be pit

thick kelp
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my SP is gonna sit in NXP for rerolls

latent moss
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upgrade ilvl on neck

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weap

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ring

calm hollow
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i will roll for weapon, after i got my second nexus ring

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3 items left in nexus, so if rng doesnt fck me, will be next week

plush hill
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puzzlebox, raid trinket or extra roll? im lost.

latent moss
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bro actually got 4 trinkets in vault

astral yarrow
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wonder if there is a cap on the bonus roll thingies

latent moss
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axaxxaaxa

latent moss
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idk guidon is very good for m+

thick kelp
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Pbox is very good for m+ dander

robust cliff
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my rolls this morning are going great in pit. helm and cloak so far 1 more left hopefully 2h or neck but ill probs get belt lol

thick kelp
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and raid

latent moss
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puzzle box is very good but i refuse to play it

astral yarrow
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i plan to just pile them up (on) and then not play warropr in raid until like last 3 weeks and walk out full bis

latent moss
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guidon kinda not good in raid i think

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1:30 never aligns with anything

plush hill
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i'm only focussed on m+. pugging 3 bosses in raid

latent moss
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guidon then

calm hollow
latent moss
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i would reclear first tho

plush hill
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but guidon will be replaced with 2 raidtrinkets, no?

astral yarrow
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Aagaardhntas oneshot mtyh track dagger into survival one trick

astral yarrow
latent moss
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but i think guidon is bis

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in m+

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but i also heard gaze has some funky scaling

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at 298

thick kelp
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but you play 2h in raid on survival

latent moss
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is that true

astral yarrow
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Then they'll have to give me a stick

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it does a lot of damage but somehow has less nuance than fury

thick kelp
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daggers r for keys only

reef birch
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is the bug we bellyached all last week about fixed yet?

thick kelp
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its like -6% dps to play in raid with daggers vs 2h

latent moss
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how is that possible

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ramp tc ramp tc ramp tc

astral yarrow
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spec is legit 3 buttons

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raptro striker, mongoose strike is same button

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bomb

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and then you have kill command that buffs the next 2 abilities

latent moss
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u play mongoose bite?????

astral yarrow
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yyou never press anything without that buff

latent moss
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pack leader?

astral yarrow
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y

latent moss
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HOOOOOOOOLY

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MONGOOSE BITE ‼️ @rodwave2703

astral yarrow
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idk if its bite, i just press the button that converts to another button and then back

latent moss
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where is rodwave gg

gentle gyro
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Is it worth it to bonus roll Solarfire Prism? I don't raid

astral yarrow
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the boomstick thing is kinda weird though

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doesnt fit whatever i feel survival hunter is lol

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randomly pulling out a shotgun while im stabbing idiots

latent moss
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wait mongoose bite is gone

dim basalt
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Got pbox in vault but I already have guidon

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hmm

latent moss
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@astral yarrow im looking at wowhead

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they legit removed EVERYTHING

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from the spec

astral yarrow
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yes

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there is 3 buttons

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boomstick and your "do more dam" button

thick kelp
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boomstick kinda cool

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like a better demolish

latent moss
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AHHAHAHAHA

thick kelp
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:omega

upper sparrow
astral yarrow
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but your rotation is 3 buttons where one of them is to buff the other 2 lol

gentle gyro
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Or should I spend my bonusrolls in WS for crit haste gloves? Have heroic vers tierset ones

latent moss
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U JUST NEVER PRESS ANYTHING WITHOUT TIP

reef bone
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sentinal is kinda fun though

latent moss
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fuck sentinel

astral yarrow
latent moss
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where is mongoose bite

astral yarrow
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check packleader bm hunter st rotation

latent moss
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ye they just removed mongoose bite

astral yarrow
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talk about nuance xd

latent moss
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xddd

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and people say fury is braindead

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fury being melee automatically makes it 90000000 times harder in m+ than bm

astral yarrow
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wonder how short the apl is

hybrid needle
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Im sure thats doable via one Button macro

reef bone
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nah that natures ally bufff is actually kind of a ball ache

astral yarrow
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nah the cooldowns on the stuff is varied and with resets, so doubt it

latent moss
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so what cds

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does survival have

astral yarrow
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apes together strong

reef bone
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eagle

astral yarrow
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which just gives you 20% dam

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called takedown

latent moss
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ye i can see it

astral yarrow
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basically a short duration avatar with a charge attached

latent moss
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its demolish kinda

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does big dam and increases ur dmg done

hybrid needle
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Its funny how Blizzard thought "lets give the bowmaster a shotgun and some bombs, then call it a melee"

astral yarrow
latent moss
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is it fun

astral yarrow
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also, their st rotation is the aoe rotation, so there is not a lot going on

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idk if its fun

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but its as braindead as warrior and does numbers

latent moss
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is it reliant on skyfury

astral yarrow
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hasnt felt that way

dim basalt
latent moss
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ye im just gonna play 2 1h

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everywhere

astral yarrow
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samesies

latent moss
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im not a radier

dim basalt
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2 daggers

hybrid needle
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Is it true that MM got completely murdered for m+ ?

latent moss
astral yarrow
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you just onebang the dagger from nexus point and then craft the second

latent moss
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@thick kelp new rat

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for 10s

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wait is it even timewalking

thick kelp
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Holy

latent moss
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fuck reset

thick kelp
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nah tw ended

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you can play with my devourer

latent moss
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what lvl is ur devourer

thick kelp
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239

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but it has a 10

latent moss
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90?

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man wdym u can play this shit will take

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495368 years to level

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if no timewalking

thick kelp
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download

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follow the arrow addon

astral yarrow
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the all delves -> do 5 levels -> turn in + craft is not too bad

thick kelp
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and pick alt leveling guide

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it takes me 3hours

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to go 80-90

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with that addon

cedar cairn
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Biz's St build w/ martial prowess and OP finish has been helping alot with pugs who tend to not pull a ton

slow saddle
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not saying worldboss lags

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but

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i was in that last 0.0 sec for 25sec

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So having both Gze + heart

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we agree next bonus roll time is just pos r

quaint otter
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@slow saddle i try to vouch for you gladge

robust cliff
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3 rolls in pit. head,cloak,ring. just want the 2h sadge

quaint otter
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he took another warr...

slow saddle
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i rolled neck last week

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big sad 😭

robust cliff
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at least now on the loot table I only have belt/2h/neck

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I got chest and shoulders from my 2 free ones last week

slow saddle
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yeah thats nice

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well free ones ?

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if u got em BACK they are stilll in ya loot table

native merlin
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Hello Warry, FoV still bugged ?

robust cliff
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yeah well I rolled in pit once and got head and then rolled 1 in nexus and got the void ring when it was bugged

thick kelp
robust cliff
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so w my 2 free ones I rerolled and got chest and shoulders

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so they should be off the table now

slow saddle
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kek

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thats cheating

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i mean that also means its kindda rough if u wanna start rollin in nexus later i guess, but who cares

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i like these new bonus roll

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s

wind hatch
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i like them a lot more than dinars tbh

mild sierra
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You should get your item faster on avg

robust cliff
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tbh I am thinking the ring from pit and the crit haste one from nexus is good no?

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both crit haste?

reef prairie
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bro how is fervor Still not fixed

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xd

dreamy sandal
reef prairie
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i mean sometimes i can understand it

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but it feels like it'd be such a simple one to fix

dreamy sandal
reef prairie
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yea i dont work for blizzard

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i dont code either so lowkey im just talking out of my ass i just want it fixed lol

dim basalt
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Its 100% an easy fix

astral yarrow
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if it was, it would probably already be fixed

latent moss
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like raptor strike upgrading

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itself

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is the apex ye

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and u just play st rota in aoe what the helly

paper dove
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i am pretty confident Warrior is pretty low priority at blizzard hq, played almost all classes and this class just feels almost as left behind as rogue

astral yarrow
dreamy sandal
astral yarrow
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thats kinda why im saying its somehow less nuanced than fury lol

latent moss
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maybe im tweaking but seems more engaging than fury tho

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boomstick sounds kinda cool to press icl

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gunning down everything

dreamy sandal
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Fury atm just plays worse than before

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And i love fury

latent moss
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idk tmy told me its fun

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i will trust him

paper dove
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Slayer arms is my fav but they had to kill it

astral yarrow
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idk outside shotgun, there isnt much about the class the feels oomph or however you wanna describe it

thick kelp
latent moss
thick kelp
latent moss
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it did a lot mroe damage than demo chatting

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and was cooler visually

thick kelp
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yeah if u got the

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shitty funnel

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from tindral roots

latent moss
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nah i just padded on the roots

thick kelp
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you would

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reck ava of

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roots

latent moss
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cba mickey mouse strat so that my raiid wipes anyway

thick kelp
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and then start channel

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so roots died before last hit

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big boss dam

latent moss
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on 2nd set u only had of

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u would charge of charge on opener

paper dove
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visuals for warrior be like

latent moss
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man i dont remember actually

paper dove
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compared to shamans and shit

latent moss
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after 400 pulls

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gg

thick kelp
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i think u held ava

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for 1st roots

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then of 2nd

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then uhh

latent moss
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yeyeye

thick kelp
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pray 3rd?

latent moss
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u would ava first

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of+leggo 2nd

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ava 3rd

thick kelp
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@stable fiber crazy lura dam

latent moss
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at least thats what i did

astral yarrow
latent moss
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warr diff i am afraid

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chatting

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he did astroblast the boss tho

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top boss dam

astral yarrow
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sabo got it 0.2 sec before hard enrage at 9:33

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velocity got it at 9:42 lol

thick kelp
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yeah vdka kill time is crazy

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but ig raid buffs + ilvl

astral yarrow
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oh yeah it was reset for na yday

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not that weird then, but like fast kills earlier were 9:14-17 ish

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with the norm being 9:30-35

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WHY IS VIL 285

stable fiber
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our p4 could have died faster also

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we almost killed the boss before the p3 gate

thick kelp
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holy

stable fiber
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almost**

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not also

thick kelp
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just removing the hard part of p3

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for most guilds then

stable fiber
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we did yeah

thick kelp
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nice

stable fiber
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dont have to do the whole last part of p3

thick kelp
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dont wanna play the last part in a casual guild

stable fiber
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yeah its uh

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bad

thick kelp
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would b like extra 50-100 pulls

stable fiber
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that is very very tough

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vodka damage is through the roof

thick kelp
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skyrocketing dmg dealers

stable fiber
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its good in p1

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but uh

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boss dmg bad

thick kelp
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there for skyfury

astral yarrow
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ele is good on lura though

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or is it just enh onetrick

stable fiber
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its like 2 things

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him and the bm hunter got beef, and also ele apparently just sucks to play

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(if he went ele the bm would play surv)

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its like for fun beef not actual beef iykwim

thick kelp
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but the hunter played surv regardless

astral yarrow
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surv bangs though ratge

stable fiber
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the other hunter

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we have 2

thick kelp
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ohh

stable fiber
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1 is bm the other is surv

thick kelp
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i didnt notice

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he was so low on the meter

astral yarrow
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BM just hits boss till it dies

stable fiber
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our kill time is crazy asf though

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for like a effectively 19 man p4

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18 man at the end

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eh it was mostly 20 men

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nvm

thick kelp
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xff

stable fiber
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couple deaths later in the phase

still latch
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may i ask here for vault tips? its between hc plume and myth solarflare

astral yarrow
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sabo oneshot p4 lol

stable fiber
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close to sub 9 mins

stable fiber
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smh

astral yarrow
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xdd

stable fiber
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we trolled with blazes

thick kelp
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was about to ask

astral yarrow
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we had 0 movement speed planned

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somehow

thick kelp
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how many blaze shit my pants wipes

astral yarrow
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the boys still lived

stable fiber
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now I didnt blaze noting

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but it was a horror game some pulls

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i also only got it twice in those 11 pulls

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so

astral yarrow
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how is left right late left hard

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or maybe we just highrolled locked in players

gilded saddle
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Arms without embellishment for Dragons or Fury?

thick kelp
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why would ur arms be withouth embellishments

stable fiber
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just leave the hunt embellishment on

gilded saddle
stable fiber
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uhh

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ig u just run the non crafted then

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whats ur comp

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is what matters more

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do you have a blood dk

gilded saddle
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Yeah, I could ignore the sim. It didn’t make sense to me either. I used crafted weapon for Mythic Silken Court to keep my embellishment back then.

gilded saddle
stable fiber
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do you have TWO blood dk's

forest dove
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Glad they keep finding warlock bugs to fix and still haven’t found a way to fix fervor slams ☠️

gilded saddle
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Yes, we have two

stable fiber
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play arms

gilded saddle
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Alright, bet! I’m gonna try it out!

stable fiber
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just slam the colo m+ build

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can use cs + demo on pull

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then avatar like 30 seconds into pull

gilded saddle
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I feel like I have so many more binds than TWW Arms or Fury.

stable fiber
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cleave when 3 targets to funnel onto bosses

gilded saddle
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I gotta get used to it or map it better.

stable fiber
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people clown on warrior, but i go play other specs and we have like 10 more buttons then other classes

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dh i have like 8 keybinds

gilded saddle
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Yeah, Arms has me using a lot of Shift. Even Thane isn’t so bad.

stable fiber
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with 2 bdks you 100% play arms

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with 1 bdk its like 50/50 play w/e ur comfortable on

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no bdk u play fury 100%

gilded saddle
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Might also be because I’m used to having certain binds in other places, maybe I can work on some macros or rearrange some shit

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Dumb ass question but will Blizzard’s assist help guide me roughly along the right path with Arms?

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Suggested highlights.

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I figured it might because there are a lot of abilities but it’s pretty straight-forward, it seems like.

late lantern
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can we sim droptimizer but with embellishment replacement? 289wep sims 0.1% better but replaces embelisment so i want to add my extra arcanoweave in here to see the actual gain

polar wraith
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Should I take Gaze myth track (have it on hero) or myth salhadaar neck with avoidance?

granite night
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Is fervor of battle fixed ?

vocal flicker
granite night
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Insane indie company

proper atlas
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Dlc

slender sonnet
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Everyone’s gotta pay £20 to getfervor of battle fixed

stable fiber
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already paid more then 20

hasty pumice
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gg my arms outsims my fury in ST now

manic belfry
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Thinking of switching to arms now, but it feels so slow compared to fury. I know its better for vanguard, but is it ahead on the last 3 as well?

manic belfry
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Hmm 😒 I hate slow specs 🤣

slow saddle
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slowly gettin there

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still dno how to break 100k :D:D

slow saddle
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most of our good players play, what ever is like 1% better at like last 3

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i dont think the gap is as vast as it may seem

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u can deffo prog those as fury just fine 😉 ure still not great ofc. and arms deffo is better last part of lura. and fury isnt good on any parts particularly id say

manic belfry
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I can get used to it i guess.

slow saddle
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tbh u are "fast" if u are at vanguard

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but u are gettin 1% buff per week

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and i guess once u kill lura u at 15% most likely

buoyant cargo
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YEHAAAA!!! So next week pit prison finally ends. But im gonna get ring and cloak with regular 2 bonus rolls. Hammer gonna be the 3rd bonus roll im gonna take from vault. the best is yet to come.

slow saddle
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which means every1 should be able to do shit, unless u got SUUUPER insane comps

slow saddle
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3 out of 5 is someting i want

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so we know its gonna roll chest- cloak 😄

fresh spire
slow saddle
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sooo

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u are saying theres a CHANCE 😄

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that i could hit 99K

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coz bis ill never prob have

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man its depressing 102k

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like fr

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whats ret ? 115?

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ok so ret only 108

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hmm i still feel like ret has so much more ST how is that possible ?

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wait frost dk sims 122? and uhdk 133? are these old sims ?

fresh spire
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No they still sim high

thick kelp
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illegaly high

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most specs sim higher in 1t5mins at like 260

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vs warriors in bis

supple blade
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Fellas
Can u get tier token from bonus rolls or are tier tokens excluded from bonus rolls?

finite panther
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Yo anyone got this bug? my talents import and exports are fucked and i cant even sim bc this bs loadout loads in with 105 points in the arms tree. i checked with the addons and its bugged with 0 addons loaded

polar sundial
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guys quick question: mythic track weapon is more important then having right stats right? i have a high haste low mastery myth weapon in vault. how can i tell if i should take it. or buy more bonusrolls onto PiT or just bonus roll gaze and take the weapon? is that simable? im thankful for any help!

slow saddle
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i mean

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do u have crafted weap?

astral yarrow
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you can add any item to top gear and sim it that way

cunning smelt
astral yarrow
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but the vault thing is guaranteed, while rolling in pit is in no way guaranteed

slow saddle
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if u do allready have crafted honestly id prob just take bonus roll, u gotta get trhough A LOT of pit items

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its a risk ofc

polar sundial
polar sundial
slow saddle
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hmm changes things id say. id prob take the weapon for insta gain then

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and keep in mind at some point u will replace. but such is the way of wow

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power nor or more power later is always the choice

astral yarrow
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i would've taken weapon and went for the techincal bis very late

polar sundial
slow saddle
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wait u dont have gaze yet?

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then theres no choice

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u roll gaze take weap

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until u have gaze imho

polar sundial
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i dont even have gaze on hc

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only have prism and some very bad trinket

slow saddle
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y i mean id roll vora and chimera mythic then obviously

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now i got both now. so im just sending into pit, but i allready had mythic weapon pre rolls and crafted ^_^

polar sundial
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okey okey shit thought pit was the play last week, but i couldnt clear mythic there anyways

slow saddle
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i mean thats the Q

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are u clearing mythic ? raid

polar sundial
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now yes its my alt

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first 2 + chimerus

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with pug

slow saddle
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yeah so then u actually got 2 bosses u wanna bonus roll from in raid 😄

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but ofc chimera is where id spend it first

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then id prob look into rollin on vora as well 🙂 dno how many u compete with for that one depends on raids i guess

polar sundial
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okok, i also think the differnce between stats on weapon aint that big

slow saddle
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i mean it is

polar sundial
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only secondary stats thats scuffed

slow saddle
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we dont want versa mastery

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but ofc i mean as u said its not HORRID 😄

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but its more about being effective 😄 than anything else

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but i would take weapon instantly and take the dmg increase

polar sundial
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it has high haster tho low mastery

slow saddle
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heck i did that WHEN i had crafted weap ( before bonus rolls though )

polar sundial
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not sure if it makes itt better

slow saddle
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i mean haste is quite good id take it, and smile tbh

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what did u craft then btw?

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bracer - cloak combo ?

polar sundial
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yes sir

slow saddle
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y deffo just take weapon and upgrade it

polar sundial
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and sitting on 510 mythic crest after farming today

slow saddle
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u wont waste crests. maximum waste is a bonus roll, but lets be honest if it takes u 1 or 2 more weeks

polar sundial
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this char just got max lvl like 1 week ago

slow saddle
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so u are waiting for main to hit ilvl cap or?

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so u can get upgrades at 10 a pop ?

polar sundial
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i dont think thats reachable i just wanted to wait on raid and rolls this week before i craft or upgrade. tried to minmax 😄

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or rather didnt wanted to make mistakes

slow saddle
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i mean u can ofc start by upgradin bracer - claok to max if u havent

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just for ease of mind

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then upgrade weap as well

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i presume u send all hero crests ?

polar sundial
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yeye i have hero discount from main and spend all. and crafted wrist + cloak arconweave

slow saddle
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ok 🙂 well take weap upgrade and smile

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and hopefully u roll gaze

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in drops

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and have 2 bonus rolls for pit later 😄

polar sundial
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i hope so sir ❤️

slow saddle
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for me its gaze - pit - npx rolls

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so now its pit - npx if i roll weap + belt from pit next week imma look into npx ( just for rings )

polar sundial
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you have lots of vault gear tho? i feel like i have many crests but nothing to spend on

slow saddle
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i mean

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its my main, i cant even upgrade everything i have

polar sundial
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ahh got it ye

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the struggle is real 😄

slow saddle
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yeah

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i mean it is what it is 😄

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cant complain when i get shoulders from roll, and gaze in a week last week i got feet

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so i dont had any saved up

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so after i send on all the "main" stays i just meme em

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like legs-chest-helm-trinkets-weapon

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but lookin back i should prob have held feet for another week or so, but honestly our dmg is so bad anyways who cares 😛

polar sundial
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hahaha i feel like when its your main and you playing it actually you cant rlly wait all the time on alts its way easier

abstract sphinx
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What do you guys think about Guidon? I was originally planning to target mythic gaze with bonus rolls. (Currently using myth hunger & crucible)

soft moat
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best drop there get it

abstract sphinx
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Guidon or myth gaze with bonus rolls u mean?

frosty basin
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I got Guidon and it sims ok

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But its weird for arms as it doesnt align with anything really

abstract sphinx
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It alligns with avatar no?

fervent urchin
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gaze foir arms is way better

frosty basin
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Choose to go for windrunner spire gloves instead

frosty basin
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Because of Anger managment

heavy heron
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lets go 8)

reef bone
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How big is it a ST loss to drop bloodbourne for the SS talents?

slow saddle
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sim ti

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but its not to bad

slow saddle
reef bone
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I just notice that wowhead has bloodbourne on basically every fight, I would have thought more sweeping strikes would work well on say mythic imperator

slow saddle
reef bone
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meanwhile I got 2 different types of shoulders and a vers weapon... gz dude

slow saddle
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Whats next then ? bonus roll wise?

hasty pumice
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dont use bonus rolls in random dungeons

slow saddle
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i hope u meant in vault btw 😄

reef bone
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ha, yeah

hasty pumice
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i had socket last week peepoBlush

slow saddle
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y i need Weap - ring - belt from PIT then imma swap over to NPX

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my trinkets are bis

hasty pumice
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I'm missing mythic slot arms, belt and legs

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then I'm all myth

slow saddle
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and we arent far enough in raid

hasty pumice
slow saddle
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yeah i wont c it

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also imho prob simmie trappie

hasty pumice
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possible

slow saddle
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very dependant on when its topped off

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where as i feel gaze and heart are pretty steady

hasty pumice
#

feather is prolly dope in academy

slow saddle
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y

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but i mean i dont think i will get to beloran

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b4 i will have all the rolls in the world anyways 😄

desert panther
#

Hey guys making an arms warrior alt, colossus for dungeon leveling I'm guessing?

slow saddle
slow saddle
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id level as fury

hasty pumice
slow saddle
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belt

hasty pumice
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my fourth roll was helm

reef bone
hasty pumice
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oh perhaps

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but

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set belt is also good

slow saddle
#

trueth, but which dungeon can u roll belt from then?

hasty pumice
#

vault

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kek

slow saddle
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trueth 😄

hasty pumice
#

or just turn a mythic belt from raid into cata belt

slow saddle
#

i guess this is a talk for next wednesday 😄

reef bone
slow saddle
#

who drops belts ?

#

collosus also requires gear

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like no crit collosus no thx man shits cursed

hasty pumice
#

dragon dn

slow saddle
#

hmm we are proggin dragon, i dare say i am not first man on belt in my guild

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as we actually have some of those meta classes 😄

hasty pumice
#

you never know

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I prefer dragon belt anyways

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cause its 1 free upgrade

#

279

slow saddle
#

my RL does have a soft spot for me

abstract sphinx
abstract sphinx
slow saddle
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hmm its the bis ones

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for

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dk

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^_^

abstract sphinx
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xDD

desert panther
#

I mean shit I'm just gonna go slayer because I'm gonna slay like a queen fr

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💅

abstract sphinx
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lol

slow saddle
#

id rly play slayer fury tbh as leveling

velvet vessel
#

we aiming for this or the shadow dmg ones ?

abstract sphinx
#

u will slaying yourself out the group

slow saddle
#

and switch over once u hit max lvl

slow saddle
#

but u can sim it

velvet vessel
#

my aim is with bis gear, sim now kinda skews it

slow saddle
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towards?

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also bis gear includes shit u prob wont c?

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like lura ring

abstract sphinx
#

does bis gear even exist or is it just psyop

slow saddle
#

but it does seem like we are trying to keep versa to absolutely 0 😄

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From what i can c is haste seems to be lower gear scale if u dont have that absolutely insane haste ring 😄

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so u prob want haste even more i dno ?

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like its a fully haste weap + ring we are missing id wager that means we prob want more other places if possible

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like boost are prob crit - haste choice if possibl

slow saddle
#

yup

abstract sphinx
#

i refuse to believe fully upgraded guidon is a 1.3% increase over crucible (+18 route SEAT sim)

velvet vessel
slow saddle
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id guess, but u might have to sim, mby wedding band is better

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than set dmg hard to say its pretty close

astral yarrow
slow saddle
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also follow it like a slave no matter content

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end of story

gentle gyro
slow saddle
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😄

gentle gyro
#

But I swear both occlusions were bis before

slow saddle
gentle gyro
#

Yeah But I already got both so I am incredibly sad

slow saddle
#

but im rollin pit anyways until i get it then in swithcing to npx prob for rings dependin on vault

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on mythic track?

gentle gyro
#

1 myth

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The Mastery one

slow saddle
#

which 1 ?

#

well so sad

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from br or vault?

gentle gyro
#

Br

slow saddle
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ah so u allready went all in

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😄

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i guess u shall keep rollin 🙂

gentle gyro
#

I went iiinnn

bronze nest
#

one thing i dont understand

flint cedar
bronze nest
#

in a multi targetscenario why mortal strike takes prio over OP ?

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op cast Dreadnaught

slow saddle
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and gear ya self:D

gentle gyro
#

Sweeps

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Is our bread

spice field
#

is it just me or you guys having a hard time to join a key in pug? i can't even get invite to 10s ?????

bronze nest
#

on a 3target i get it, I am mostly concerned about 5+

flint cedar
slow saddle
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it was easier to get into a 16 today than a 10-12

gentle gyro
#

I will never forgive Blizzard

slow saddle
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we want it back asap

graceful sun
gentle gyro
slow saddle
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inno also fucking rebuff DN 50%

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and buff op 10%

spice field
gentle gyro
spice field
#

i feel like community has something negative against arms warr in m+

gentle gyro
#

At least double those

slow saddle
slow saddle
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its a CRIME that dreadnaught doesnt fuck, would also really help in raid 😄

gentle gyro
#

YOU MUST have friends

empty sluice
slow saddle
#

tbh didnt struggle last season either as arms

slow saddle
#

best iteration we had was beta ;D

gentle gyro
#

It was like 200 RiO behind every other spec

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In s3

slow saddle
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Yeah but struggle didnt start until like 19s

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then i found my self not wanted at all

gentle gyro
#

And Fury was just miles ahead

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And I hate fury

spice field
bronze nest
#

I absolute hate pressing rend 😄

gentle gyro
slow saddle
gentle gyro
#

282 ilvl, finally, still declined in 12s

late lantern
#

280 and declined to +10's

slow saddle
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ppl still bonus rollin

velvet vessel
#

didn change the build xD is it that bad?

slow saddle
#

its got little to do with class more to do with being dps

slow saddle
#

as slayer?

velvet vessel
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simming a decent one now

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used a outaded sim as baseline

gentle gyro
#

Should be easier to get in kinda

slow saddle
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nah

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lower keys higher meta slaves

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thats nothing new for real

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like i c way more requirements in 10-12s

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than in 14-17s so far

gentle gyro
#

I can always push towards the end of the season when it doesn't mean shit

slow saddle
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ppl realising matters more if u can play than what u pla

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y

oblique cosmos
#

bois, im doing mythic chim today, should i try to roll for mythic gaze? i got the hc. or should i roll for something in m+

slow saddle
#

then u prob hit 18-19 and ppl are hard copin for only great setups

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but ANY phys comp they need arms

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so we get decent amount of spots tbh

velvet vessel
#

need to redo all of it

gentle gyro
slow saddle
oblique cosmos
#

o7

slow saddle
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which is pretty cringe 😄

gentle gyro
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Nope

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Always guardian or monk

slow saddle
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ok, well i dont do super high keys yet

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only in the 17-18 bracke

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t

gentle gyro
#

Bro I am trying 13s 14s

slow saddle
#

but i dont rly struggle to bad gettin invites, not more than u do when u are trying to get into keys

gentle gyro
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I am super behind everyone

slow saddle
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i mean thats an issue,

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how to get into m+ is being top ilvl

gentle gyro
#

I started 3 weeks late

slow saddle
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and have good rio from last season and this season

gentle gyro
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Idk what to do

slow saddle
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like i dno what to say, ppl are pretty selective

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in their 13-14s if they can get a bitter rio // spec they choose it

gentle gyro
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I understand, it makes sense

slow saddle
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did u try sending ya own keys, and seeing how many ppl sign

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its madness esp dps

gentle gyro
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And 258 healers tryna do a free +14

spice field
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like communtiy is punishing you just because you've started 1 week late

gentle gyro
#

It's not that atrocious

spice field
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yeah but not everyone has to play with friends/guilds

gentle gyro
#

But still sad

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Well I don't either

spice field
#

this is pure toxicity you know what i mean

rose matrix
#

Just do your own key if your behind

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That's basically your only option to catch up

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Once you get like 4-5 keys timed in that bracket you can usually start seeing invites to other keys of the same level

spice field
#

i am doing my keys and to get higher io i am trying to do 14-15 keys, but people selective as he said they are looking at your io not your key

rose matrix
#

Unless you're way below what you should be for those levels I doubt that is a huge issue

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It can just take a while to find tanks and healers right now at odd key levels

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14-15 is a bit weird since a lot of people who push are past that point

spice field
#

so it became something like dead end

rose matrix
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Not really, you just gotta be patient

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I get it's not fun but it is what it is

desert panther
#

Hey guys setting up my UI atm, I keep seeing like battlelord or some shit the thing that reduces ms rage in text but it's half covered by my action bars, how do I move it? I don't think it's my ui addon text

spice field
desert panther
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Or how do I just turn it off I'm gonna just use MS when I can anyway most of the time

gentle gyro
thick kelp
rose matrix
#

I don't get how people play with any floating text

desert panther
rose matrix
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Just a bunch of garbage on your screen

desert panther
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Yeah it's so shit wtf

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I mean the aura is pretty cool for procs right but I don't need text to tell me yo MS has -33% rage bro like cmon

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Aight that fixed it thanks man

rose matrix
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Don't really think I am

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Honestly think its more people playing with on by default and getting used to it

desert panther
#

battelord battlelord sudden death

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battlelord

clever crag
#

Honestly fuck dps lfg

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I say go tank and just spam keys

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Brick them if needed

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I spent 1hr staring at lfg screens for 12-13s when Ive done 14,15

rose matrix
#

What's you char?

clever crag
#

Same char name as my disc name

rose matrix
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Yeah not sure why you wouldn't get invites tbh

untold pewter
#

Tanking is the way
Also not difficult at all

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If you want to get things done quickly

teal junco
#

Are you guys consistently getting two demolishes in your colossus smash window?

untold pewter
#

It can happen with perfect uptime yeah

teal junco
#

Seem to be only getting one and having to hold a demolish for a long time

rose matrix
#

You can send it without CS

vast helm
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We fixed?

rose matrix
#

Only time I would hold is if CS was like 10 seconds or less

#

No

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We are not

clever crag
#

Gotta have aug, dev and demo

gentle gyro
rose matrix
#

Yep it can be annoying

#

It gets even worse when you get higher

#

Demo isn't as bad anymore it's usually Unholy

clever crag
#

And then you get a key and tank bricks it on 2nd pull

rose matrix
#

Every once in a while you see a phys comp that needs a warrior

gentle gyro
#

It's gonna get better guys, it has to..

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Support group atp

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AA

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Arms anonymous

clever crag
#

And it was so EASY

#

Still you see like 1 phys comp for every 30 cookie cutter meta slave comps

rose matrix
#

My success rate has been pretty decent when doing 17s surprisingly

flat willow
#

arms is part of the second best comp in the game right now

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arms is like 5th best dps spec in the game for m+

clever crag
#

Ive kinda stopped trying for now, dont really wanna push on tank

rose matrix
#

It's a bit misleading with Arms though

clever crag
#

PvP is better roi lol

rose matrix
#

It's a lot stronger in a coordinated group than a pug

clever crag
#

Or mythic raid

rose matrix
#

It's strong but the ST is just so bad

gentle gyro
clever crag
#

Your tank has to funnel some mobs for you

rose matrix
#

We aren't

#

Arms is doing really good damage right now

#

The ST just sucks

gentle gyro
#

It was never about the damage

flat willow
#

I'm not being sarcastic, this is one of the best season to play arms in like

#

ever

gentle gyro
#

We are not getting invited

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That's it

#

That's the hard part

rose matrix
#

Tbf that's not only and issue with Warrior

flat willow
#

most seasons will be a lot worse than this one

clever crag
#

Well other seasons were worse true

gentle gyro
clever crag
#

There was no phys comp

gentle gyro
#

Back to tww days

rose matrix
#

Basically any class that isn't in the meta comp or doesn't have lust has a hard time

clever crag
#

I have no respect for aug,devo,uh players

#

Those specs are 3.2io on creation

rose matrix
#

I just tried floating damage numbers out

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Not bad on ST

#

AoE it's just garbage on the screen

untold pewter
#

If you reskin and filter damage numbers it's nice okayge

#

Now idk if that still works since this expansion cuz I just uninstalled the addon

rose matrix
#

I have the font changed

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Didn't know you could filter it

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But in AoE you can even really differentiate all the damage so it's just bloat on your screen

untold pewter
#

I forgor the name of the addon but you could like hide values under a certain threshold and color crits and what not

clever crag
#

Relaxed btw

desert panther
# rose matrix The ST just sucks

Guess that's why it clicks with rogue, I wish I could find a stable m+ team on my rogue but it's so difficult to find the right setup since our only comp is basically with arms warrior and everybody's playing different shit tbh

desert panther
#

A fine collection awaits you of the friendliest fotm players

#

If you're aug

#

3.5k+ main

#

link CE

umbral linden
#

found a +15 key with "arms pref" yesterday evening
still remember it like some sort of a dream come true

untold pewter
#

You sure you were awake?

tight basin
#

Still think single target is a big issue, if we get downtown like a milisec we lose 5k dps, 1 wrong pathing from tank and we chillin

umbral linden
untold pewter
#

ST is not hot, no question there

umbral linden
indigo quail
#

Paladin across the room just throwing hammers

umbral linden
indigo quail
#

Lmao

untold pewter
#

Nah those mfs can reach

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Lmao

umbral linden
#

also imma die on the hill of pushing 4th warrior's spec
smth gladiator-like, maybe "melee" spec with some reach like throwing sh

thick kelp
#

Support spec

indigo quail
#

I would like to have a commander spec

#

Banner

#

Shouts

umbral linden
#

or yeah, something like another supp

indigo quail
#

Like usefull ones

umbral linden
#

gimme critdmg banner right now

indigo quail
#

Fucking hate avatar

umbral linden
#

and bl

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war meta

untold pewter
#

Just give me dragoon sadge
I thought we'd get that instead of filth evoker

umbral linden
#

is there a solid comment from blizz on aug and supp specs future?

wintry dome
#

zuljin the spec, axe throwing and shit

ionic mica
untold pewter
umbral linden
#

because if they wont add new ones, we may see aug meta for like a few years

umbral linden
#

sad

indigo quail
#

Next week we gonna be bugged still

#

So i dont expect much from blizz

umbral linden
#

still dont understand what they were thinking when adding a supp spec, isnt it obvious (from other mmos for example) that supps will always be effective? and they are kinda hard to balance, if there is ONE supp spec in the game lol

untold pewter
#

As per the most recent situation with addons/UI

Blizzard often overestimates their capabilities

#

They think they are good enough to pull it off

#

Spoilers: they aren't

umbral linden
dreamy sandal
#

btw, anyone elses Algathar score not been updated? My group was 40 seconds over the timer, and as they just added +1 minute on reset to the key, should we not get it timed retroactively?

cold cargo
dreamy sandal
iron moat
#

yeah should work, bizentein also talked about it yesterday when doing AA

dreamy sandal
#

y, heard Noxivs group talking about it correcting after the reset

#

But on Raider I cant see it right now

mortal crag
#

WHEN DO WE FUCKING FIX MW BUG

iron moat
#

probably just incompetence as usual, just wait and see ig or keep going

iron moat
#

never fixing the fervor of battle/mortal wounds whatever, they don't like us

astral yarrow
#

i dont either

#

😡

wintry dome
#

is the fix a lot of damage?

untold pewter
#

It's significant

vocal flicker
umbral linden
#

especially if juggling targets in aoe

#

and in funnel situations

daring heron
#

missing 8% of our single target damage when doing aoe rotation atm

#

iirc anyway

umbral linden
daring heron
#

so pretty significant for prio damage

reef bone
#

If my stat weights now have haste > crit I'm assuming I should just go re enchant and regem my stuff?

dim basalt
#

It's 5% ish for 8T

#

But the lower you go the more it is

ionic mica
#

if you want to check changing enchants and gems you can do that in top gear too

candid kindle
#

Stat weight doesn’t do the actual best

#

The only tweek ive done in terms of stats back in tww is lowering haste bc it was uncomfortable for me and upping mast to compensate

#

But thats a personal choice

#

The dif in dps wasn’t that high to force that discomfort on myself

#

But that’s a me scenario

reef bone
#

Oh nice okay, I only did it becaue I'm seeing Light Company Guidon as my best trinket

slow saddle
#

I would never use that

misty bridge
gentle gyro
#

Is Gaze overrated? Gamebreaking?

olive nest
fresh spire
olive nest
#

🐐

inner shore
vast helm
olive nest
#

I think they just legitimately don’t care about Warrior

#

Actions prove it

potent drum
#

As a non-myth raider, what's the best trinket combo for m+?

I currently run
Gaze(hc) + Solarflare(hc) or
Gaze(hc) + Puzzlebox(hc).

I have the option to get the myth puzzle box in vault (vs a myth tier piecr) but it im not sure about that, the puzzle box is always siming really high but im not sure if its the best.

soft moat
#

shiets jus annoying to use

olive nest
#

Puzzle box is nice burst but it sucks to use so I wouldn’t run it personally

potent drum
soft moat
#

its good but if you can move away from it do it

#

ez

olive nest
#

I took it from first myth vault and used it for 1 week before regretting that decision and never using it again 😂

potent drum
#

Hahaha

#

So you run double heroic ones instead?

olive nest
#

Well I mythic raid so I have myth guidon, vorasius heart, and gaze also as options

#

For you imo
Best possible combo would be heart from vorasius and gaze from chim

potent drum
#

I see

olive nest
#

Solarflare is also good

slow saddle
#

Esp as col it seems rather good

olive nest
#

Could run Solarflare with vorasius heart

#

Omega Crit all the time

slow saddle
#

I did until i got m gaze 2day

potent drum
gentle gyro
olive nest
#

Plume is another solid option also

#

Plenty of good trinkets besides puzzle box

#

Forget that trash

gentle gyro
#

I will run anger + myth prism till the end

#

I don't raid

vale warren
#

I personally like my rubix cube. We will see after a week of having to solve

modern cove
olive nest
#

Logging as warrior simply sucks this tier

#

Add pad fiesta

#

For saladbar, You need your tanks to slowly kite saladbar near orbs so you can sweep them the whole time

#

That’s why log is bad aside from possible rotational errors

pulsar frost
#

I run guidon and gaze

#

Me like

modern cove
runic igloo
#

is it alright to craft boots for arms

modern cove
#

Chimerus boots (you can catalyst) are the usual option

mental crater
#

Can someone explain to me why plume and heart sim WAY better than gaze and heart. i tried so many different combinations. even with the Bis lists on icy and wowhead the plume sims better than gaze. am i missing something?

runic igloo
#

i have crafted weap with embellishment but i just got the POT one so i need to put embellis on something else either cloak or boots but i have myth cloak already. Still craft cloak or?

wind hatch
#

crazy chimaerus pull last night

quaint otter
thick kelp
wind hatch
#

im like the only one playing slayer

quaint otter
#

Sheesh

#

Add padders

maiden apex
#

@godwalker16

wind hatch
velvet vessel
#

only one on adds or what?

olive nest
#

That does damage and gives some rage from bloodsurge

#

Also not a single cast of sweeping strikes

#

You want to be sweeping orbs

thorny mason
#

is solarflare that bad ? at 289 it's simming 0.3% upgrade compared to my crucible i feel like taking the tokens is better (mainly for m+ for context)

vale stirrup
#

Guys, this might be a stupid question, but how should you sim your vault? Should you include all your gear fully upgraded, even items in your bag if you have them, or only the vault items at max upgrade? And could you explain as well? It’s something we were discussing in our guild.

deft tiger
#

guys question on [Nebulous Voidcore] its max 4 this week

olive nest
#

I sim vault based on crests available

deft tiger
#

can i have the vault token will it be 5 ?

olive nest
#

I sim droptimizer as max ilvl equip and drops at 289 so I know what to roll for

proven veldt
wary raft
vale stirrup
#

I usually just sim vault item max upgrade but apparently I’m wrong

olive nest
#

Not necessarily wrong just depends what your goal is

#

Are you trying to maximize dps for that specific week

olive nest
#

A specific boss?

proven veldt
#

rend is a low priority filler for slayer ST, not something you keep up all the time

olive nest
#

Dungeon build?

#

Long term dps

#

Etc

vale stirrup
#

Usually it’s for raiding

olive nest
#

Yeah same here I focus on raid build ST when I sim

wind hatch
modern cove
velvet vessel
#

so how did you managed taht? Im parsing greens

#

im handicapped, must be

wind hatch
#

just try to have bladestorm + cs when you're soaking to get as much damage on them as you can

olive nest
wind hatch
#

yes

#

hold bladestorm on pull

#

send cs, you'll barely have it back ip

vale stirrup
#

well aparenttly im wrong :p

polar sundial
#

guys when i dont have weapon crafted but i craft now and later get mythic weapon from somewhere. what do i actually lose? 4 sparks and 20 mythic crest right? thats it no?. cause i have lots of sparks witthout usage anyways

velvet vessel
buoyant cargo
polar sundial
#

yeah but i can cheese the first craft right? with hero weapon. so i would technically safe a bit if i would not craft it.

#

nvm you just did tha sorry haha

buoyant cargo
clever crag
#

Remember most of your parse is your raid group and spec

velvet vessel
#

yes mythic ofc

#

heroic is a meme

strange forum
#

Question from non-warrior for title key routing. What is the % value increase for dps at 3 targets vs single target. In M+ build on 2-3 minute boss

clever crag
#

A Joe Bozo on his UDK with 10k parses whos raid parses all 95-99 will have much easier time than you in a casual mythic guild on arms with 1k parses

clever crag