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rose matrix
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Warrios not even on the list again

nova marsh
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I think this is a summary of todays

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But still wtf

brazen sigil
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lmao but still haven't fixed the arms bug huh

nova marsh
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This is taking taking the piss

olive nest
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lmfao

nova marsh
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Tuning happened this week lmao

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I want my fucking bug fix

brazen sigil
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lol they need to correctly tune warrior

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dps warrior shouldn't be competing with tanks in st lmao

nova marsh
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Ive given up on st

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Warrior is gg go next season to me at this point

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also please nerf tank damage ffs

wind hatch
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not looking forward to it

hybrid needle
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..... warrior fix?

nova marsh
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Nope

nova marsh
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Guess we just pray for reset

calm hollow
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that socket was actually huge, wtf

hybrid needle
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Can some1 remind Blizz we exist

calm hollow
pulsar frost
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@nova marshi dontl ike these slayer chances

nova marsh
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Tbh I wish like

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Slayer had guaranteed sd from bs

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Or cs

rare kite
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thank fuck i'm benched on it

olive nest
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dude like i dont even know what to say

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its so bad

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im just perma not hitting anything

nova marsh
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Crown looks horrific

olive nest
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its so dogshit

nova marsh
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Even on heroic just so much movement

olive nest
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shit on the floor literally perma

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its so ass

calm hollow
nova marsh
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Ur just done for the tier

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Rip

calm hollow
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yea, paladin was my endboss

rare kite
nova marsh
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Whelp

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Now u can play other stuff

calm hollow
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never had season end this fast in wow tbh

rare kite
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arms pretty good on lura, just show them poptart corndog kill

nova marsh
calm hollow
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they want 1 brown, and thats our prot warr

nova marsh
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Im finishing my warrior push next season

calm hollow
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kinda meh

nova marsh
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week

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And then I think I just log off

celest iris
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Is two target cleave basically the single target rotation? having a brainblock on paladins prog when only two of them around to hit

rare kite
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i mean for m+ arms is really really good right now @nova marsh

hybrid needle
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Im dedicated to getting 1% on warr
But then again im also dedicated to just play a different game

nova marsh
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Oh ik

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Its been fun blasting

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But I dont feel like I wonna push to high keys

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And get 3.4k

rare kite
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that's fair, i might go to 3.4k as well later. i want the red shadowlands ksm mount

hybrid needle
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Wdym u dont have 3.4k

rare kite
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only one i'm missing

nova marsh
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That

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And irl emergencies have kept me out of wow a lot

calm hollow
nova marsh
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Last couple of weeks

rare kite
calm hollow
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yep, just slight recolors

hybrid needle
nova marsh
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Woops

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(Please kill me)

pulsar frost
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nah rogue this spec do doo

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i go back to col

rare kite
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like the new one is light blue, rather have the red one

calm hollow
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praying for your old man ๐Ÿ™

nova marsh
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Oh he's fine now, they just need to let him out

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Its just been 2 weeks of hell kinda

balmy kindle
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3400 is just a case of do you have a tank buddy okayge

nova marsh
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I do not

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Lmao

safe tundra
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this on a progression kill feels crazy good (M dragons)

nova marsh
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I honestly

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Feel like I could 3.4k on arms

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Not outlaw fuck that

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But colo arms is comfy

hybrid needle
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Can you not answer sarcasm with scary shit it makes me feel bad

nova marsh
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Sorry

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Brain is mush

rare kite
calm hollow
sudden fox
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Hotfixes out and no deep wounds fix mentioned pog

hybrid needle
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Atleast havoK getting fixed

nova marsh
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Poor havoc

safe tundra
nova marsh
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Living in devs shadow

shy dew
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Ty blizz for fix havok, who cares about deepwounds being bugged

rare kite
balmy kindle
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Kek try being deva evoker now with Aug being op

nova marsh
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Is deva still omega bad rn

hybrid needle
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Delete dragons

nova marsh
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I hate that one

rare kite
nova marsh
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Ahhh

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Tale as old as time

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Spec is fine just lives in busted specs shadow

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So evreyone just hits N

hybrid needle
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We are back to "Tank, Heal, Aug, 2 dd" and i hate it

rare kite
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yea it's still in the upper half damage wise. but why run it when aug just fits in any comp, god i hate aug so much

balmy kindle
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Aug is like the biggest io inflator

rare kite
nova marsh
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Ngl

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I avoid aug

balmy kindle
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You can literally do nothing and nobody can say anythingkeks

nova marsh
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Idc if its good I dont want to share my dps

safe tundra
hybrid needle
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I declined a 3.7k aug to my +12 just to feel good

calm hollow
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we have 2 ddh, 2 aug, 2 hunter(before nerfs)

nova marsh
calm hollow
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try padding

nova marsh
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Delete pad

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Please

calm hollow
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i hate pad

nova marsh
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Please delete pad

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Let us be ethical

hybrid needle
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They cant think of other mechanics that u can play without requiring addons but "add more things to attack"

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Thats blizzard

nova marsh
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At this point

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Fuck it

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Make evrey fight a dancr

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Copy 14

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Idrc

hybrid needle
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Quick reminder that every major point of wow lore since wotlk turns out to be "mindcontrolled by xyz"

nova marsh
rain fiber
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did they fix FOB bug?

nova marsh
rain fiber
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Ah fuck

hybrid needle
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My favorite anduin was the one in was able to beat down in shadowlands raid

rain fiber
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Should we close our discord?

hybrid needle
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We arent paladins, we have honor

nova marsh
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Does the color of your name look pink?

shy dew
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Nah

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We are warriors, we need to stand still

languid torrent
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but maybe i just need new glasses

nova marsh
rain fiber
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no but for real, who do we have to talk to in order to report the bug?

nova marsh
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Youre ret now

nova marsh
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Try pinging NA Customer support

nova marsh
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It worked for rogues

shy dew
hybrid needle
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25 reports? So basically all warrior Mains?

shy dew
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Its impossible, we are too many? i thought we`re 5 ppl

languid torrent
hybrid needle
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Fair point. Not a Single warrior to be found in #pvp either

languid torrent
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but i got thrown into ret jail

rain fiber
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warrior used to not be as bad

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something happened at early TWW when fury got gutted

shy dew
rain fiber
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warrior main dev got kicked or something

shy dew
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last time i saw war pretty simple and good was in DF

rain fiber
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I don't know, but it's clear no one has a pulse on the spec/class

hybrid needle
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I skipped df. Cause dragons. Can we just delete them?

rain fiber
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at least from a DPS perspective

leaden garnet
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I almost came back in DF because I like dragons so much

shy dew
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its bcs we don`t have a dev since DF

leaden garnet
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Not a furry, but-

shy dew
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prob they saw a janitor in blizzard and hired him to be our dev

rain fiber
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because arms gameplay is weird or unsatisfying, and Fury has been nerfed continuously without even being that OP

hybrid needle
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Well, drsgons are awesome. Dractyr are not. Idk what they are supposed to be but.. holy cow

balmy kindle
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Flame shaper Dev in TWW s3 was pretty rad

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Fat ignite bursts wicked

wind hatch
hybrid needle
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Mate. They look like an undead had a child with an Blackrock whelpling

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Might even be lore accurate, idk

wind hatch
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lmao

balmy kindle
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Man I feel offended going dracthyr

hybrid needle
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I wouldnt complain if our "shapeshifting dragonforms" looked like this

leaden garnet
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Too spindly imo

hybrid needle
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I just dislike that we got bony, skinny creatures sold as "elite dragon soldiers"

slow saddle
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Yay bluepost

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No warrior post

elder sandal
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is this skill priority from top to bottom sufficient enough to learn arms in m+?

vast hinge
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When there was a major bug with professions back in DF, i spammed popular wow streamer chat with how to replicate the bug and it got fixed in a day

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althogh that bug was benefitial to the bug users though so this is probs diff lol

vast helm
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save us

fossil token
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Has anyone else had a duplicate item from bonus rolls since the supposed fix? I just got the plate shoulders from Pit of Saron a second time

shadow osprey
fossil token
shadow osprey
fossil token
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ah ok thats how they implemented it, ty

elder sandal
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at 2 targets do i cleave or heroic strike? or both?

shadow osprey
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Essentially to reset back to neutral even if that's not technically how it works

dusty dagger
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Looking through the hotfixes for fervor fix, will report back when i find it.

fossil token
noble sonnet
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is slayer dead in M+, or is the ST still worth it in some places?

icy mulch
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It's pretty dead right now. It's fine but drastically reduced. I was doing 230k per 5 mins on target dummies before patch. Now, with the same rotation it barely holds 200.

minor gust
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Aoe nerfs to slayer kinda sucks but if your good you will still keep up and beat most people

icy mulch
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Yeah, between the bugs and the lack of Reap procs. Colossus is just better.

minor gust
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Bug affects both but yeah reap is in a weird spot because it really just needs some buffs to compensate the loss of MS procs

icy mulch
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I do hate avoiding execute during execute phase though.

elder sandal
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bro how does 3.4k rio get declined on +10s

minor gust
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I don't mind that got no problem with Colo not giving a shit about execute

elder sandal
icy mulch
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Yeah, without the Reap proc on MS single target feels like buns.

minor gust
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It's really losing that extra chance to proc reap in aoe

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That sucks

icy mulch
minor gust
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BS kinda owns now atleast

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BS can be top dmg in overall in high aoe dungeons

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It's cool to see

dusty dagger
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I don't trust the devs who almost went through with removing 100% reap off sudden death

icy mulch
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Yeah, BS is neat, just wish it still had the same buff as ravager gives.

minor gust
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I'ma make a forum post about rage as well for 12.1

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Gonna need yalls help to spam the post

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We gonna get this rage bullshit fixed

icy mulch
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Thankfully they realized how awful that would of felt.

stable fiber
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my god

jade ember
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new bug fixes
fob isn't one of them
cest la vie

stable fiber
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that was not a fun l'ura execute pull

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rage was not above 50 the entirety of p3

minor gust
bleak arrow
minor gust
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I will save our rage next

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I promise

jade ember
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Blizz gives every Arms an emotional support Shaman that queues with you for every M+

hybrid needle
stable fiber
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unplayable rage bar im pissed

bleak arrow
jade ember
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I'd lowk take the imba buff over our super situational one

minor gust
hybrid needle
minor gust
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They wanted to make more of a focus in AOE. Well cool! They did that. Now let's see some actual reap tuning because they have yet to do that

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Which is annoying

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Slayer for the first time ever is competitive with Colossus and then not even a few weeks later they kill it

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It's frustrating but at least it still plays well

nova marsh
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Make reap like

nova marsh
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35% proc chance and buff it

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Give colo some st love

balmy kindle
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Thing with slayer is like its so dependent on reap procs for any sort of aoe

minor gust
jade ember
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Ya everyone hates the rng thats just a part of Slayer rn

pulsar frost
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Its ok. Its the time where I just do guild raids. My 8 keys vault and then I go touch grass or play other games

hybrid needle
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Remove rts, increase bs damage by 100%.
Problem solved and no more rng

minor gust
nova marsh
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Im probs just gonna get 3k and log off for the season besides helping my friens

pulsar frost
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Id like 3500 push sometime but meh

nova marsh
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Imma be honest

minor gust
balmy kindle
nova marsh
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I dont enjoy the dungeon line up enough to push for 3.4k

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Its...kinda boring almost

pulsar frost
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There's good dungeons tho

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Most of them are fun

nova marsh
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Oh ik

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But then like terrace

minor gust
pulsar frost
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They're great col arms keys if you ignore ST bosses lol

nova marsh
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Or skyreach

pulsar frost
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Big packs

minor gust
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Terrace is one of my favorite dungeons

bleak arrow
elder zealot
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Yeah I think this season's line up is great

hybrid needle
nova marsh
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Id like terrace more but the bosses just...kinda suck

balmy kindle
pulsar frost
nova marsh
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Also glaives

pulsar frost
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Got my druid to 3k then meh

nova marsh
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To become a better player

balmy kindle
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Wdym runic glaives one tapping your healers keks

hybrid needle
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I recommend you guys to play healmonk.
People love u and all u gotta do is Spinning crane kick okayge

pulsar frost
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majority of my guild is pissed at this season with how they handle everything edpically voidcores so they're play time or will or wanting to play is dropping from the looks of it

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Which is kinda lame since keys with guild is fun even if they only do low 10-14a

scarlet mortar
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No fervor bug fix despair

pulsar frost
nova marsh
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I just dont have desire to play this season hardcore because its been funbleded

minor gust
pulsar frost
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Define hard core

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Personally dont think 3.4k is that hard core

nova marsh
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Eh

pulsar frost
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Id like to go higher but I cba ques

nova marsh
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For me its wayyy higher then I've ever even attempted

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The highest I did before tww s2 was a 12 in current system (22 in df)

pulsar frost
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They tuned this season so much weaker then last season dispite last season having better gear

minor gust
nova marsh
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The tuning sucks

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I kinda hate classes

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Like

pulsar frost
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I mean mythic plus

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Not classss

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M+ this season is vastly easier then last

nova marsh
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Yes but I dont have fun in m+ without fun classes

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I dont feel like im having fun on any of the classes I've played a lot of the time

pulsar frost
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I think arms been fun

nova marsh
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Arms is fun besides bosses

pulsar frost
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Tho i started as fury and im sad for my fury

nova marsh
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Packs are omega satisfying

pulsar frost
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I enjoy big aoe packs more then bosses anyways

nova marsh
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True

minor gust
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Arms is fun on bosses just not Colo arms

balmy kindle
minor gust
pulsar frost
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Id like more ST for bosses but it swhaywvwe

minor gust
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I'm piss vibing on bosses as slayer

pulsar frost
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Let me big boy deeps aie

balmy kindle
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One Cleave to rule them all

nova marsh
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Those are always more fun to manage cuz m+ bosses have less going for them then a normal raids boss

pulsar frost
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Which is funny since when I was transactioning to arms I liked slayer more then col

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Now I like col a lot more

hybrid needle
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Ive lost to an affliction warlock in aa16. I feel like i dont even know how to warrior anymore

nova marsh
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Honestly I just wonna

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Not feel like im afk on bosses

pulsar frost
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I probably honestly dont care much any more . I'll do my stuff i do. Get vault have fun on those 12s or whatever and just go do other things

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No point in coping snd being sad

nova marsh
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True

pulsar frost
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I have so much shit to play or watch or do

nova marsh
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Honestly kinda at the point in the season where im ready to finish and move on

minor gust
nova marsh
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Finish up pragmata, got the warframe update soon

hybrid needle
nova marsh
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It wont

pulsar frost
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Idk i just do a lot less deeps on slayer after changes

nova marsh
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Well

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Na it will

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We have like 4 months

jade ember
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Really? We still have a whole raid that's not out yet

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One boss but still

nova marsh
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Based on blizzards normal cycle

pulsar frost
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I mean its just how seasonal cycles are

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Sane shit for poe1/2

balmy kindle
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Just chill and take your own pace keks

jade ember
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P sure we locked into ~6mo seasons atp

nova marsh
pulsar frost
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Do my weekly shit then do other stuff. No real stress

nova marsh
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Even before df

pulsar frost
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Need to play more shapes 2

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Waiting on discount for other games

nova marsh
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Ill probably vibe on the weekends with weeklies

pulsar frost
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Nah just do them on tuseday where every good plaher wants them done

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Weekend for other crap

minor gust
hybrid needle
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Dont forget to run your dungeons of Dundun okayge

nova marsh
minor gust
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I also got a build that does more aoe on slayer but it requires a shaman

nova marsh
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Our schedules don't align when I work

pulsar frost
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Op over ms sounds wacky. Am I sending 2 op before 1 ms?

minor gust
stable fiber
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GAME

minor gust
pulsar frost
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Whats opp and ff again

nova marsh
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this circled node

pulsar frost
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Pretty sure I already have that. I'll try prio op over MS if I do another slayer key

minor gust
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Try to be smart about BS usage too don't just send to send on a dying pack like before

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BS actually fucks and is a lot of your aoe

novel raven
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rip still not fervor of battle bugfix?

covert patrol
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as m+ colossus spec, sub-20%, do we use slam exclusively over non-SD execute? im looking at two 20 AA logs on crawth and one uses execute as filler, the other uses slam as filler

nova marsh
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no gg go next

hybrid needle
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You will ragestarve with execute and end up only autohitting

covert patrol
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so generally just slam unless you have excess rage for some reason?

minor gust
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you can pretty much never press execute besides SD procs as colo

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in M+

covert patrol
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ok thanks ๐Ÿ™

woeful gull
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damn just re subbed, execute not red again?

nova marsh
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hasn't been condemm for a while

woeful gull
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im sure it was red in tww? maybe im tripping

pulsar frost
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Run. Dont come back

nova marsh
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Also ye

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FREE YOURSELF FROM WOW

pulsar frost
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I shouldn't have came back either

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Tbh

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Was suppose to be 1 summer

nova marsh
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kinda same

pulsar frost
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Honestly dont even know if its worth doing 4-8 keys since dim getting to the point of needing a few myth pieces and like pit has 4 or 5 more pieces i need

gentle gyro
woeful gull
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yeah is non-red execute a dealbreaker, it might be

rare kite
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we got a sick new heroic strike animation tho

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or atleast the nelf one is sick, idk if other races have the same

warm zodiac
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How do I make Colo ST not be poop

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Cause man I either suck at it or it sucks

novel raven
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you dont

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(or have 2 adds ontop of the boss)

warm zodiac
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Is Slayer Arms any good?

rare kite
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no

warm zodiac
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Why does warrior hurt me so

rare kite
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out of curiosity how much st are you doing as col? assuming monk buff and shaman buff

warm zodiac
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Like 70-80k

rare kite
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that's pretty decent, it's not like tank dps before the buff. that's usually what i do as well, it's not great ofc but atleast it's not gigatrash

warm zodiac
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I think itโ€™s just combined that it feels a lot less engaging than when I play fury

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Just makes the whole experience feel bleh

rare kite
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col does crazy aoe tho, should top overall

warm zodiac
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Yeah the AoE is super nice

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And THAT part is the only redeeming factor

rare kite
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and if tanks pull mobs into bosses then you top boss damage as well, ofc you can't do that on all bosses

elder sandal
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at how many targets does arms outperform fury?

upper sparrow
elder sandal
stable fiber
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1+

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it just outperforms fury

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on everything

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except hitting adds that other people kill faster anyways

elder sandal
wind hatch
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notice how there's no furyowns emote

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checkmate

maiden apex
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So still no fervor of battle or slam/deepwounds fix it seems.

wind hatch
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then they'll get to us

maiden apex
hybrid needle
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Fr. Havok comes first

balmy kindle
nova marsh
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ye

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KT does

ionic bane
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my arms damage is so shit idk why. i have the correct stats and every enchant

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om collosus

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im usually the 3rd dps lol

rare kite
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overall? if so you're doing something wrong

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prob holding cds too much

nova marsh
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what keys u playhin

ionic bane
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i make sure to keep my cds goimg

sand totem
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3rd dps ST or overall?

ionic bane
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overall

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probb trinkets matn

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mayb

nova marsh
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Hey guys

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Does the pvp neck have a crit haste one?

hybrid needle
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They should all have vers
Just craft your own

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What do u need it for tho

nova marsh
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Literally just a track upgrade

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Tempted to just craft

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But wait till vault tomorrow.

hybrid needle
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Just run 30 pits like we all did

nova marsh
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eh ye I'll be runnin pit tomorrow too

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To gamba on neck

pulsar frost
nova marsh
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I love how you say

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REACTING TO THE MESSAGE WHERE I SAID YEAH I'LL RUN PIT TOMORROW

pulsar frost
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You love my timings

nova marsh
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Just gonna farm hero crests and chill tn

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so I can have evreything upgraded then get neck and just need gilded

pulsar frost
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Ha jokes on you I finished hero

nova marsh
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yeah yeah I'm behind af

hybrid needle
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Imagine Capping hero crests

nova marsh
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I have nothing better to do lol

hybrid needle
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I have 2 myth pieces in my inventory and no catalysator charges cause i havend dropped a Single one in 30 or so dungeons

nova marsh
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ngl it's kinda chill thou

marsh needle
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I got a duplicate item on a bonus roll

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just now

nova marsh
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system was reset ]

marsh needle
nova marsh
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whatever you got before wensday dosen't count

marsh needle
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so fucking dumb lol

nova marsh
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yes I know

leaden garnet
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Holy fuck how is the FOB bug still not fixed

hybrid needle
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Everyone > Warrior

radiant moon
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start submiting bug reports

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if they see a lot of them

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they will fix it as a prio

raw sapphire
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It shouldnt be this hard to fix the fob bug too

hybrid needle
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Shoutout to whoever this is

rancid willow
quasi sapphire
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Does the voidclaw gauntlets from seat which does shadow damage on hit interact with the Eternal voidsong chain neck?

nova marsh
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yes

quasi sapphire
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oh great

slow saddle
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so they should be aware as to how to fix it

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but again both arms and fury needs like 10-15k ST buff

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well esp fury, but arms could use antother 10 on slayer and 15 on col

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and yes arms would then dominate 2t fights ? but arent we heavily supposed to do that ? isnt that our niche like

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paladins should be arms on top

nova marsh
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I genuinely feel like we lean heavily towards a 3 target niche

slow saddle
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like the fact that we arent Destroying council

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is geniunely a joke

slow saddle
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but yeah i totally agree

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i still think fob should be made 2t instead

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if that is really what they want for us

nova marsh
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They say 2 target is our niche and then buff the living fuck out of cleave and fob being at 3 too

slow saddle
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though that means making cleave vablueble at 2t which is prob bad ?i dno

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would require everything to activate at 2t

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which IMHO would be fair if thats our niche, then remove powerfull momentum

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and let the FOB be the mad 2t increase

nova marsh
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I honestly dont even disagree

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I think that'd be fine

slow saddle
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i just rather have the 2t niche, than 3t

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but mainly coz they said we should be 2t kings ๐Ÿ˜„

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and Fury deffo need to sim in the top 5 of st dmg

nova marsh
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Blizz also said warrior were bloated with damage cds

slow saddle
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just coz how fucking flat the profile is

nova marsh
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Then kept ava and ravager

slow saddle
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we are less so now !!!

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keep in mind Ravager automaticly targets opponent

nova marsh
#

I think arms's profile is actually kinda great

slow saddle
#

thats a reduction in skill

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^_

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i mean i think arms profile if Collosus is great

#

i think slayer overall is a fucking mess

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of a choice

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theres a reason why the shared dps talent tree for DK is riders

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purely passive purely for looks

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where as slayer on warrior tries to make BOTH specs execute and bladestorm focused

nova marsh
#

Slayer needs a rework

slow saddle
#

and i tbh think thats a horrid choice

#

nah slayer needs deleted

#

give arms Thane

nova marsh
#

Na

slow saddle
#

thane is mainly just looks

nova marsh
#

They can make slayer work

slow saddle
#

not across 2 dps specs

#

not without making what they do to similar

#

tbh let arms slayer die and just make col the better st spec as well

nova marsh
#

Just make it a tww stormbringer situation

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Where both play vastly differently between specs

#

Idk I think slayer is salvaged into a blade master isea

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They're already halfway there with bs

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Also

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If they they rework slayer and move away from exe focus, they can buff exe baseline

slow saddle
#

i mean that would mean a design overhaul

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and it no longer being slayer

nova marsh
#

Yes

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Thats what I want

slow saddle
#

i think the whole execute part is the biggest issue as well ofc

nova marsh
#

Keep the bladestorm stuff, maybe tie cdr to something else

slow saddle
#

like which is why i suggested thane

nova marsh
#

Scrap evreything else

slow saddle
#

as empowered lightning mortal strkes

#

would work and claps as well

nova marsh
#

I mean I also hate hero talents at this point

slow saddle
#

visually it would as well

nova marsh
#

But we're stuck with it

slow saddle
#

i like collosus tbh

nova marsh
#

The provlem with thane

slow saddle
#

is?

nova marsh
#

Is then warrior is just a pure aoe class

#

Thane has okay st

#

But I think that'd just destroy us for raid

slow saddle
#

nah thane would have great ST

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as raid

#

it empowers Exe and MS decently

#

i grant we might be to flexible for blizzards way of thinkin of arms ๐Ÿ˜„

#

and tbh for Gameplay loot to work, it might need to move the clap onto overpower or something hmm yeah theres issues

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coz just lettin us clap for huge dmg is prob not what blizzard wants, though it would work rather well in riad

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sd>ms > emp clap > op

nova marsh
#

Also at that poibt

#

Literally just delete execute from the game

slow saddle
#

nah

nova marsh
#

Lowkey

slow saddle
#

execute would then baseline fuck

#

keep in mind as arms an empowered MS

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WITH eps up

#

would totally smack

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and ofc heres the issue, in pvp that would prob cause issues ๐Ÿ˜„

balmy kindle
#

To hell with pvp

#

keks they can always tune PvP separately

hybrid needle
#

Pvp has all different numbers anyways

slow saddle
#

well then this would be amazing no ?

hybrid needle
#

Ive heard atleast 7000 things that would be awesome
The issue is none of us is a developer (i doubt anyone is tbh, this has to be AI) and hence we wont get any of it

nova marsh
#

Honestly I kinda see blizzards idea with slayer

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In df arms struggled hard to do any meaningful aoe well maintaining good st

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By amdrassil it wasnt even worth touching adds really, and if your guild needed add help you literally swapped fury

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So the idea was to make bs good in st and aoe to give us at least one tool

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And it....kinda works?

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Actually you could argue colo wanted to try its hand at this too but uhh....colos st

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Its never held a candle to slayers, in part because a lot of our st power is in execute....the button colo wants to avoid pressing at all costs basically

balmy kindle
#

Ez fix just make Arms or demolish have more juice

nova marsh
#

100% agree

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Just make demolish have added damage against 1 target

balmy kindle
#

Bassline execute hits like a wet noodle too

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While costing stupid rage

nova marsh
#

Hell doubble demo in st

hybrid needle
#

Imagine pressing Demo in st and seeing 500k crits on third hit

brazen sun
#

question on skyreach last boss can you Heroic leap to avoid falling . is it possible?

nova marsh
#

But you need fast as fuck hands

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It was possible on lich king during past xpacks when he wasnt one shottable

hybrid needle
#

P sure youre Stunned during the fall and/or have pathfinding problems

nova marsh
#

Are you stunned?

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Id have to check i haven't gone over yet

brazen sun
#

have any of you tried it ?

nova marsh
#

I haven't been thrown off

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Only my poor healers have

balmy kindle
#

Because if leap works dragon glide will work too no

hybrid needle
#

I havent cause i dont wanna rip the key. You can SS the thing and the boss tho, so if youre in bird and tank follows u its dmg gain. Why waste it okayge

balmy kindle
#

^^

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Bird is a good funnel for demolish cdr

brazen sun
radiant moon
#

you mosly fixed colo st

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without making it broken for aoe

#

and buff rage gen in exe

#

so i dont have to fish for shaman for 30 min in LFG

#

oh also remove rend, screw rend

balmy kindle
#

Just bake more dmg into deep wounds remove rend okayge

We save one button

radiant moon
#

oh wait

#

we were there

#

and it still did little dmg ๐Ÿ˜„

#

but y we already have more buttons than most spec this xpac

#

i dont get the "you bleed" and "you bleed but different" thing not like we are a dot spec

balmy kindle
#

TBH current deep wounds interaction is kinda intuitive,

Before it was either a massively long dot or dmg multiplier

radiant moon
#

just take its wording, put it on our mastery again and make it work in the same way it does now. Saves a talent point

#

our mastery rn is really boring imo

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"do more dmg"

#

vers 2.0 without dr

dim basalt
stable fiber
#

very few masteries do anything cool

#

think ench shaman is like one of few that does anything

hasty pumice
dim basalt
hasty pumice
#

Can you give me caverns 20 please stjpa?

#

Last key I need

dim basalt
#

M8 Im still waiting to time a 18 NPX

#

Because tanks just fuck it up every single time

hasty pumice
dim basalt
#

Damn your +20 MC last night is sad

marsh thistle
#

when are the bugs going to get fixed

elder zodiac
hasty pumice
#

But I can't get invites

#

They rather take a 3.7k DK or DH over an almost resi20 warrior

thick kelp
#

dk is just budget warrior

hasty pumice
#

You mean-

#

No no

#

You're right surely

thick kelp
#

no but fr

#

tell me what dk does better

hasty pumice
#

Yeah nothing tbh like

elder zodiac
#

Doesn't have to be played around as much as arms ig

hasty pumice
#

They don't have BR, infinite healing, debuff immunity, grabs and higher tankiness luckily

#

So we're good

thick kelp
#

arms is arguably tankier than uh

hasty pumice
#

I'd say depends on the situation

#

But yeah improved Def stance was a massive tankiness buff

thick kelp
#

imp def stance, sr, dbts makes arms crazy tanky

hasty pumice
#

I'm not denying that we're S tier tanky haha

minor gust
hasty pumice
#

But DH also has insane tankiness overall this season due to a tooon of rot damage, their perma 10% DR and huge leech

#

Obviously not as good against burst

#

But there's not too much burst this season

thick kelp
#

well DH is just busted

dim basalt
#

And will stay busted until next season ggwp

minor gust
#

next season

#

kek

#

next expansion

thick kelp
#

probably an evoker situation

dim basalt
#

perhaps

thick kelp
#

good thing i am prepared

hasty pumice
#

Guys DEV DH gem alert

minor gust
#

Expect DDH to be good all expansion

hasty pumice
#

Open the fucking buff patch notes

#

Or I will end you

balmy kindle
#

But obviously blizz cannot let the signature spec of midnight be bad keks

elder zodiac
#

At this point I'd be happy if I open patch notes and they fixed mortal wounds fervor interaction

thick kelp
hasty pumice
#

Dev DH has to be one of the coolest new specs in some time

#

Demon hunter generally is already a cool factor for many

slow saddle
#

What if as slayer arms

#

Execute extended

#

cs window ?

stable fiber
#

wish we had killed on this pull for multiple reasons

stable fiber
#

p4 padder

#

i went nuclear ngl

thick kelp
#

u even have space to improve

stable fiber
#

tbf i think the ms crit chance goes crazy in p3

#

ok wow

#

it was badf

#

wtf

thick kelp
#

39%

#

in p3

#

ome

stable fiber
#

im using crit reck pot btw

thick kelp
#

XD

#

skill issue

stable fiber
#

outside of reck pot it was 35%

#

hmm

#

wait

#

ye 35

#

during reck pot it was only 57%

thick kelp
#

massive skill issue

stable fiber
#

i have like 75% crit chance during reck pot btw

thick kelp
#

could be 100

scenic matrix
#

Hello is highlighted assist ok for learning arms or should I avoid it?

stable fiber
#

this spec has a stupid amount of execute varience also

#

with wf/sd procs

#

1 p3 pull i didnt go above 40 rage the entirely of p3 except bladestorm

#

the other i had 80+ rage the whole time

thick kelp
#

yeah

#

same on opener

#

can swing like 60k dps

#

I have done 160k openers and 100k openrs

#

on vorasius ex

stable fiber
#

i had a crazy one when i was reck potting on pull

#

ofc its mythic l'ura so there is some crystal pad happening

#

but i did like 220k or smth

#

180k to the boss

#

w/o lust

#

then other pulls im LITERALLY below aug on the details meter

stable fiber
#

ive played arms the entire tier

#

wut

#

smh

hasty pumice
#

You know it's cracked when you have bladestorm back for the 2nd CS

open totem
#

hello im new to arms, when playing the m+ build in single target, should i be holding collosus smash a bit to make sure demolish can go in its window?

dim basalt
stable fiber
#

might spam link that clip

minor gust
#

you almost had the refresh on CS too

open totem
stable fiber
dim basalt
#

Im sure if the clip went longer he would still be bottom dps

spark mango
#

guys, do you know with what ability do monks pull through wall on first pack of magister's terreace?

stable fiber
#

i didnt expect that to happen

stable fiber
#

i end p1 with like 140-150k dps

minor gust
stable fiber
#

yeah ik

spark mango
#

no idea, just wanted to tell to my tank premde

minor gust
#

Chi Burst

dim basalt
#

Ive never paid attention but iirc its the only ranged ability they have

#

oh

minor gust
#

is what they use to pull through wall for first pull MT

dim basalt
#

Same for SR then I guess?

bright grove
#

always chi burst

clever crag
#

Its just rng af

slow saddle
#

wTF

#

Can u reflect on

#

saladbar

rustic reef
#

Bro like what

#

Is with theese bugfixes

vast hinge
#

is my overpower meant to be higher % of voerall than MS

#

in a MT key

minor gust
#

Depending on the level of MT I can see it being possible

keen turtle
#

how much we will play with bug, week has passedsadge

bright grove
#

12.1

open totem
#

am i supposed to do aoe rotation on 2 targets?

bright grove
#

No. Afaik ST rota with SS uptime

open totem
#

ok so just never press cleave?

dim basalt
#

You press Cleave in 2T with 3 stacks of collateral

open totem
#

how high prio is that?

dim basalt
#

high enough

open totem
#

๐Ÿ˜ญ ya but i mean what do i press it over

bright grove
#

sure about that after deep wounds rework?

dim basalt
#

Cleave still does stupid damage

bright grove
#

but as filler for slam then? not over MS or OP i guess (with SS up)?

daring pagoda
#

I just press it instead of slam at 3 stacks

open totem
#

ok perfect ty

dim basalt
#

I press it over OP

#

ยฏ_(ใƒ„)_/ยฏ

bright grove
#

hmm less swept MSs and HS

dim basalt
#

Not really no?

#

It shouldnt clash with MS ever, or at least not often

bright grove
#

cleave on 2t doesnt proc HS, since no fob

dim basalt
#

And HS doesnt matter at all here

bright grove
#

HS is highest prio lol

thick kelp
#

rate the talents from a pug

latent moss
#

no bounding stride

#

explode IMMEDIATELY

thick kelp
dim basalt
#

Col cleave with 3 stacks does the same damage as base MS

flat willow
#

I'd rather explode in real life than play without bounding stride

open totem
#

when are u supposed to use active trinket? Just with avatar + cs or worth waiting for ravager too?

latent moss
#

nothing can be more urgent

#

than no bounding stride

dim basalt
latent moss
#

axaxxaaxax that tree is SO criminal

#

what the helly

balmy kindle
quick badge
flat willow
#

can't take ranged silence with stance mastery, gotta pay the talent tax

balmy kindle
#

Yeah but I mean, his points are kinda wack keks

#

Like no bounding stride

#

Blade storm on Colo monkahmm

flat willow
#

ep on col, so you are allowed to press execute without losing dps

#

๐Ÿง 

#

wait you always take it i'm dumb

#

gotta pick avatar

#

you just don't press execute even with ep

#

so I add executioner precision on the " talent tax " spreadsheet

balmy kindle
#

Stance Mastery is nice but the trade off is kinda ehh

hasty pumice
#

stance mastery is op

#

just dont take it when you dont do high keys

balmy kindle
#

High is 18+?

hasty pumice
#

idk but at +20 it feels insane

flat willow
#

stance mastery is op but I just wish they swapped javelineer and resonant voice

balmy kindle
#

Ah ok that makes more sense, because at 16+ I don't feel that squishy yet

flat willow
#

so you'd only sacrifice crushing force to take it

balmy kindle
#

I don't even know what resonant voice is for like can someone tell me what this talent is for keks

hasty pumice
#

guys do you think I'll get an invite?

#

jk we all know I wont

dim basalt
#

Do you not have to work or something

hasty pumice
#

public transport died so i got off today

#

ez

dim basalt
#

Oh Muleyo

flat willow
#

you take resonant voice cuz it's the cheapest way to access two handed weapon spec and wild strikes

#

it's just a talent tax

astral yarrow
latent moss
#

2 weeks ago i got flamed for pugging 20s

steep tree
#

hell yeahh

latent moss
#

bro high key pugging

#

will always be hilarious to me

steep tree
#

such a shame the warrior set sucks this season

latent moss
#

idk how do people do it

astral yarrow
#

I'd rather high key pug than whatever the fuck im witnessing in these 15-16s

steep tree
#

i pug all my shi bcz i got no friends that can play with me

latent moss
#

ye but 15 16s are right now the worst

flat willow
#

I think the warrior set would look really cool

#

without all the tusks

#

and I say that as an orc player

latent moss
#

cause its people progging those keys

#

good players are in 20s 21s

#

or in 10s for vault

flat willow
#

I did a few 10s on my alt this week

#

and this affix

astral yarrow
#

rn im just checking whether people have a decent amount of mythic boss kills rather than io

#

cause m+ people are demons

flat willow
#

makes +10 feel like +25

halcyon valve
hasty pumice
#

who couldve seen this coming

latent moss
#

holy pala lowk owns

hasty pumice
#

surely its not gonna be DK last

flat willow
#

surely

latent moss
#

survival hunter

astral yarrow
dim basalt
#

I feel safest with rshams

astral yarrow
#

the best healers ive had in these keys are rshams at least

flat willow
#

you love rsham cuz they give you damage

hasty pumice
#

you know meta slaving is cooked when you cant get into a 20 MC constantly with almost resi 20

#

what a week huh

latent moss
#

classic

hasty pumice
#

20 MC is arguably one of the easiest 20s

#

with pit probably

latent moss
#

100%

astral yarrow
flat willow
#

and probably the key where having a warrior is the best

hasty pumice
#

no way?

latent moss
#

if tank doesnt die

#

on first pull

thick kelp
latent moss
#

key is timed

flat willow
#

you just own on the first 2 bosses so hard

thick kelp
#

Suprised its uhdk and not demo lock

hasty pumice
latent moss
#

ye uhdk got a 10% buff

flat willow
latent moss
#

demo lock didnt

#

wild world we live in

#

where neither dps warrior has st

flat willow
#

we live in the world where unholy dk and dev dh got buffed and fury nerfed

hasty pumice
#

best arms key? hell yeah
3875 rio? OKAY YES

oh wait I have a

flat willow
#

of all the possible timelines

hasty pumice
#

3700 rio DK in queue

#

let me pick him

#

(idk the DK he prolly has more but yk)

#

this week is worse than the note tip meta gaming last season

astral yarrow
#

a guildie joined one of those, said "300" and got the key done

#

traded the guy 300 gold and left

#

highway robbery

hasty pumice
#

I know many people who said "200k if timed" and just didnt pay

#

I respect that

#

fuck every note tip key

steep tree
#

really seems very random

#

at least the dh and warlock sets are good

tender plaza
#

New hotfixes but no warrior awesome

bright grove
steep tree
#

hope i can get to 3k rating eventually

#

might be suuper hard

#

what would all the dungeons need to be

#

like 13 all timed?

potent reef
#

Nah, it's like 3-4 13 and rest 12

umbral linden
#

does good pathing really affect dps that much? 280 ilvl, 140-150ish overall as colo without aug/monk
i guess my problem is cd desync, but cant tell for sure
how do you get biz numbers?

#

also pugging in 14-15s is stupidly hard, i got my healers die every single time on orc boss slam in spire, i guess that works wonders with overall too

dim basalt
#

Pathing makes up a lot of dps yeah

#

The only cd that really desyncs is rav, demo you can cast on cd in aoe

#

Your dps will also go up a lot the higher you go in key levels as Arms scales really well

balmy kindle
#

Cleave it's all this

#

When every other class is struggling you hit Cleave

zenith warren
#

is cdm buggy at times? I have an alert to play when ss runs out but sometimes I swear I watch it disappear from buffs bar and it does nothing, works fine when testing out of combat though

lyric flame
#

i use them for bte resets on my rogue and i always react before the sound

bright grove
#

(and not played at all)

zenith warren
#

thats annoying

bright grove
#

Have observed similar behavior on my end

dim basalt
#

In ST my rend TTS triggers like 4 times sometimes

#

Overlapping with itself

bright grove
#

Honestly, I used it mainly to get used to keeping uptime on it in the beginning of switching to arms. After a while you kinda have the timing down on when you need to refresh.

molten glacier
craggy steeple
#

how big of a dps loss is that deep wounds bug

#

is it that crazy

inland drift
#

we still bugged?

#

bruhhh

craggy steeple
inland drift
#

rip, thanks Blizz

bronze nest
#

is there a place with aoe dummies that dont die fast?

craggy steeple
bronze nest
#

ah thanks, will checke m out

craggy steeple
#

once u walk in they are straight to ur left or right

#

cant miss them

bronze nest
#

yeah because in silvermoon they are always at 5% ๐Ÿ˜„

simple lintel
#

Anyone got a pointer as to why Mortal Strike has priority over Heroic Strike in the Slayer ST pre-execute rotation, but not in Slayer ST execute, or any of the Colossus ST rotation phases?

abstract sphinx
#

Prob cause of the executes that buff mortal strike

#

Dunno why heroic strike prio in execute phase tho

paper gulch
#

Because it maintains the armor penetration debuff

simple lintel
#

What do you mean, Heroic Strike maintains the armor penetration debuff regardless

#

I could understand that there is a difference in Slayer execute phase since the availability of Execute. What I dont follow is the discrepancy the pre-execute between slayer and colossus.

hard juniper
#

Its probably just that in execute there are higher value filler skills, where pre execute you want to immediately put MS on CD to fish for resets. Less chance of dead zones/spamming slams

flat willow
#

cuz slayer plays without battlelord, so you want mortal strike to always be on cd to avoid pressing bad buttons (slam). But honestly prioritizing heroic strike or mortal strike pre execute is probably within % of each other

simple lintel
#

That make sense, thank you

thick kelp
#

u wanna know why

#

cuz we placed it that way

#

it has 0.1% variance which way u press those two

fair gust
#

atm im proggin be'loren mythic as arms - men this boss sucks ass

safe island
#

iโ€™ve been playing diablo 4 since it came out and while playing barbarian there are some things i wish existed in wow too especially stuff like whirlwind sending out tornadoes or triggering firestorms i wish bladestorm had something like that

latent moss
slow saddle
fair gust
#

The Warrior Tank was swapped to druid ๐Ÿ˜„

icy panther
#

my guild is going to play without warrior buff

fair gust
#

am playing with heroic puzzlebox to squeeze more dmg on egg phase

#

but man its so fucking rng how much dmg im doing - highest was 213k but avg is more like 160k xD

fair gust
olive nest
#

We made it past the hard overlap in p3 with around 24% hp iirc so we kill tonight for sure Iโ€™d imagine

hasty pumice
#

please shoot DK and DH

#

every single key is meta slaving "NO i wont invite you hihi"

runic igloo
#

what other spells then freedom from paladins can cancel the pickup from plungetalon gargoyle in POT

vapid pine
#

Warrior buff is 5% of bear damage, important

fair gust
#

yo - i wanna sim for beloren egg phase - so i can put:
"max_time=30
fixed_time=1
vary_combat_length=0
fight_style=Patchwerk
desired_targets=1"
In the Footer of SimC Expert Mode - does anyone know how i could tell the sim i have 3 stacks of Executioner? from Imminent Demise Talent?

vapid pine
#

Rescue works too