FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
#arms
slender sonnet
wind hatch
listen I need the numbers on my logs to be orange
ionic mica
yeah after first kill i just went 2t gaming to stop people complaining
candid kindle
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
Bro this season is fucked for parsing do not worry
Its actual aids
minor gust
Bro this season is fucked for parsing do not worry
This is cope
slender sonnet
I hate my life saj
daring heron
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK
r u ok
daring heron
did you die
slender sonnet
yes
wicked aurora
Sir in what world is our aoe busted?
hasty pumice
Sir in what world is our aoe busted?
Play M+ and you'll find out
thick kelp
Buddy I was doing dragons with 3 devourers
wicked aurora
Play M+ and you'll find out
I do but also there are plenty of other classes that do both more overall and more burst aoe
slender sonnet
Buddy I was doing dragons with 3 devourers
adds for me were dead before demo finished cast
wicked aurora
And those classes also don’t have shit single target
hasty pumice
I do but also there are plenty of other classes that do both more overall and mo...
nobody has as high of sustained AOE as us
our burst isnt the biggest yeah we arent "bursty" bursty
wicked aurora
nobody has as high of sustained AOE as us
Bruh have you seen devourer?
wind hatch
our sustained aoe is very good
wicked aurora
No one is claiming it’s not
wicked aurora
But saying we have busted aoe is laughable
hasty pumice
because one class is giga overtuned
wind hatch
Sir in what world is our aoe busted?
you are?
hasty pumice
But saying we have busted aoe is laughable
what
thats the worst ragebait today
lol
thick kelp
adds for me were dead before demo finished cast
minor gust
He's a Ricky Bobby follower leave him a lone
verbal folio
our aoe is amazing, our st is rly bad though
minor gust
If you ain't 1st your last
native niche
how low should Chimaerus be before intermission - atleast?
hasty pumice
He's a Ricky Bobby follower leave him a lone
I feel like I'm glad idk who that is
hybrid needle
our aoe would be better if they fixed fob 
minor gust
I feel like I'm glad idk who that is
EU brain can't comprehend the greatness of Ricky Bobby
hasty pumice
holy true
wicked aurora
Can’t be bad at sustained aoe if you’re buffing the aoe classes
minor gust
vapid goblet
https://tenor.com/view/talladega-nights-gif-2188610581406104465
i am just as poor and stupid as you!
umbral badger
bruh i am so rusty cuz i just log in in raid days now, i had to die in the one try where i could ahve pulled 115 on second boss 😮
with deep wounds applying on slam i feel even less inclined than before to rend as arms
might as well just rmeove it from my bars xd
quick acorn
Hi guys! With colateral damage in 2t, and inside execute phase, do we still use cleave at 3 stacks as prio?
umbral badger
Hi guys! With colateral damage in 2t, and inside execute phase, do we still use ...
not loggin gin all week i forgot to look this up after deepwounds removal
from cleave
wind hatch
Hi guys! With colateral damage in 2t, and inside execute phase, do we still use ...
its right below OP on prio
wicked aurora
I really wish they’d just delete ravager
wind hatch
unless ravager is up, then its above op
wicked aurora
Button is awkward as hell and they can’t figure out wtf to do with it
umbral badger
its right below OP on prio
at least numerically isn't just 2 target slam higher dmg than no-stacks cleave now that slam does deep wounds ? or maybe we don't ahve enough crit chance for that yet ?
wind hatch
at least numerically isn't just 2 target slam higher dmg than no-stacks cleave ...
talking about 3 stacks cleave
quick acorn
its right below OP on prio
this only in execute right? if we are not in execute phase its still prio I guess
umbral badger
oh i thought he asked about exeute-nostacks
minor gust
Good news for both of you a screenshot of the Colo APL was just posted scroll up to find it
umbral badger
like evne in execute i don't see cleave doing better than slam numerically "at least based on tooltiip" now that slam does deepwoudns and cleave does not
minor gust
wind hatch
this only in execute right? if we are not in execute phase its still prio I gues...
mass execution doesnt really effect rotation anymore
umbral badger
mass execution doesnt really effect rotation anymore
yea that's what i thought ty
wind hatch
fishy posted apl up here
minor gust
fishy posted apl up here
@thick kelp yeah Fishy thanks for posting
wind hatch
lmao
thick kelp
<@865605822638063647> yeah Fishy thanks for posting
no problem
minor gust
slender sonnet
Guys you'll be pleased to know we're doing alt run and I assassinated the fury warrior\
with my evoker
arms for life
umbral badger
progging alleria
nice, i lost interest fast if the guild is not going hard
wind hatch
Guys you'll be pleased to know we're doing alt run and I assassinated the fury w...
you're doing your part 🫡
god bless
wind hatch
what I do is I use it on CD if I think my next demolish will be up before my next CS ends
and the answer to that is usually yes
quartz linden
Should i always use ravager + avatar + CS? or is it ok to use ravager with just cs?
minor gust
You can send ravager with CS no ava
wind hatch
^
minor gust
Think of Colo as a 3 min spec
All CDs align at 3 min
In-between that you just pair rav or ava with a cs
quartz linden
got it, thanks
umbral badger
Think of Colo as a 3 min spec
not gonna lie while it is true, it also sounds so unreal and cope to think of it that way :p what have blizzard done to us? 😮
smoky kayak
If you can't read it wowhead guide will answer for the most part as well
WH guide simplifies a bit since there’s a lot of stuff in the APL that only exists to catch odd situations or non-optimal talent combinations
minor gust
WH guide simplifies a bit since there’s a *lot* of stuff in the APL that only ex...
Yeah that was kinda my implication when I said for the most part
Cuz wowhead would answer his demo question
gaunt owl
Guys wtf is this?
because facebook i guess
soft peak
Where is this
thick kelp
probably on the big ass marker on the map
smoky kayak
Guys wtf is this?
Looks familiar…
umbral badger
Looks familiar…
is there a reason stated of why they won't let 1.5 min cds reset on wipes ?
so annoying sometimes
smoky kayak
Just to fuck with you
minor gust
real
smoky kayak
You specifically
rose matrix
So you can panic when the pull timer starts and you are on cd
smoky kayak
So you can hit ready and then say “wait wait don’t pull”
rose matrix
lol
raw sapphire
im guessing ferver is still bugged?
hybrid needle
Correct
raw sapphire
fixed unholy real quick didnt they
tender plaza
we deserve an extra toping on top of the fob fix, MS damage increased by 30%
hybrid needle
I just had a laugh at that wowhead Post after seeing the graphs
Arms right in the middle
Fury on the bottom in 12.0 AND 12.0.5
Blizzard be like yep, thats fine 
raw sapphire
needed a nerf actually
hybrid needle
Gotta make sure ranking is consistent
deft kraken
Watching Critcake prog Lura and HOLY HELL ITS DEPRESSING.
rose matrix
It would have been rough if Unholy wasn't meta until Tuesday
hybrid needle
Im not depressed enough to play dk yet
rose matrix
As much as I think about it I can never bring myself to reroll off Warrior
deft kraken
I'm fully depressed enough to play DK. Raid wants warrior buff and to complain about why I'm not doing more damage. Send help.
hybrid needle
Im right there with you. An occasional alt is fine, but main stays poop color
wicked aurora
it hurts being above 200k overall and then you have two bosses back to back and end like this
radiant moon
it hurts being above 200k overall and then you have two bosses back to back and ...
you mean you dont like doing tank dmg?
radiant moon
I'm fully depressed enough to play DK. Raid wants warrior buff and to complain a...
its even worse when u got prot war in your grp
you get benched unless hes off
pulsar frost
it hurts being above 200k overall and then you have two bosses back to back and ...
But last boss is good damage
nova marsh
it hurts being above 200k overall and then you have two bosses back to back and ...
Seat?
nova marsh
Ahhh
pulsar frost
Ye you're cookrd
pulsar frost
it hurts being above 200k overall and then you have two bosses back to back and ...
Dk afk tho
wicked aurora
I mean I'll take the overall for the dungeon tho
wicked aurora
Seat?
hear me out, you play colo for all of seat, then after third boss use your port to the dungeon and swap to arms and you're back in before the RP is done
radiant moon
but if u want to not get severe big sad just put on overall 😄
nova marsh
hear me out, you play colo for all of seat, then after third boss use your port ...
But
radiant moon
idk if that would actually be worth
would be worth slayer does way more st
nova marsh
1 million demos
still cove
Where can i go to see if my dps is good? anywhere to see what median dps is for m+ keys?
radiant moon
Where can i go to see if my dps is good? anywhere to see what median dps is for ...
warcraft logs
if you are logging
nova marsh
Log and let them decide if ur trash
radiant moon
change raid -> m+ and then points -> dmg
still cove
ok ty
pulsar frost
hear me out, you play colo for all of seat, then after third boss use your port ...
Might not be bad to switch to slayer after 3rd boss
ionic mica
might as well, you have 50s to wait anyway
nova marsh
might as well, you have 50s to wait anyway
Bring a warlock
umbral badger
So you can hit ready and then say “wait wait don’t pull”
trust me every raid they ask me "why are warriors and mages like this" as if i am the dev responsible for it 🤣
ionic mica
Bring a warlock
the getting back in time is not an issue
i meant there is plenty of rp time so you dont even lose anything to go out and back in
idk if colo has weird things that are "on cd" that stop you swapping talents, in that case just go raid fury build
nova marsh
i meant there is plenty of rp time so you dont even lose anything to go out and ...
Assumes you didnt use port to get there
radiant moon
trust me every raid they ask me "why are warriors and mages like this" as if i a...
surprised its not fixed if its affecting main character class
umbral badger
Might not be bad to switch to slayer after 3rd boss
imagine if we start doing this for every RP, like last boss in windrunner.
ionic mica
Assumes you didnt use port to get there
luckily you have total control over that
nova marsh
True
ionic mica
if you dont need to swap for timer then just send it as colo its fine
leaving also resets your details overall sadly
so you have to log to see overall
umbral badger
i have to say guys , from my experience with how colossus change feels so far, it feels shit on lower / middle M+ and feels good on higher m+. is that how others feel about it ?
like on anything below 15 i feel like if i demo in between CS they die before iget to reset my demo for next CS
uneven minnow
huh
I 1st time colossus in my magisters 10 and was fine, with a havoc and devourer who matched my damage exactly
hybrid needle
I would agree with that. You also cant benefit as much from a second cs + mass execution if mobs die quicker
uneven minnow
brewmaster doing 82k as well
I just opened up CS /avatar/bladestorm but not into demolish + triple cleave and it felt fine for me
maybe I dont understand how to use for max effect
hybrid needle
Bladestorm and demolish? Xcuse me?
mortal crag
brewmaster doing 82k as well
thats low
uneven minnow
more damage than majority of tanks I have
mortal crag
ur opener (assuming 10 stacks of might) should be:
scarlet mortar
unhdk meta my ass to the moon
uneven minnow
was this run
minor gust
unhdk meta my ass to the moon
mortal crag
nothing timed today
sadge
@minor gust mayhaps this weekend resi20
after we leech my tank's aa20
uneven minnow
get a better pocketwatcg
hybrid needle
I learned that u shall not compare yourself to others to live a happy life
watched biz or critcake play keys
Yep, my dmg sucks
uneven minnow
why compare to losers who m+ all day
mortal crag
why call them losers
scarlet mortar
why compare to losers who m+ all day
yikes
uneven minnow
they lose keys the most of all the playerbase
ionic mica
why compare to losers who m+ all day
youre in the wrong neighbourhood pal
uneven minnow
therefore losers
mortal crag
huh
uneven minnow
hybrid needle
Sooooo
mortal crag
bro did not save that
hybrid needle
Rwf players are losers cause they have more pulls than some guilds that start later, right
uneven minnow
method who btw?
nova marsh
Do you see HS / Slam auto casts through FoB in logs?
U should
ionic mica
When checking timeline
i dont in mine, just went to look
nova marsh
It should show them cast at the same time
uneven minnow
why does FoB always proc like a 3rd of a second behind hitting cleave
always makes me think it doesn't apply
ionic mica
so we can hear how cool it is
mortal crag
wait
ionic mica
Do you see HS / Slam auto casts through FoB in logs?
in events they dont show either
polar sundial
not taking myth track shoulders or chest out of vault to gain a bonusroll onto pit (since they are in the table anyways) smart play for a completly fresh char? didnt craft anythigns itting on nearly 600 mythic crests. trying to minmax
rain prism
for m+ if cleave is on CD to cast slam if nothing is possible
mortal crag
u can see in logs that slam is doing damage when cleave is
but if cleave is on cd you press mortal strike
and if mortal strike is on cd you press overpower
and if overpower is on cd you press slam
or rend if you need to refresh it
rain prism
but I dont want to press slam, I want it bound to cleave
so if its on CD it will cast slam instead
ionic mica
u can see in logs that slam is doing damage when cleave is
yeah the damage is there just not the cast event/timeline entry
weird
vast helm
new bug huh?
rose ibex
do you guys know if you can use voidcores on bosses you've already completed on that character?
ionic mica
do you guys know if you can use voidcores on bosses you've already completed on ...
a friend said they could on heroic
but idk if they bonus rolled the first time
rose ibex
a friend said they could on heroic
i just did dreamrift on my alt and forgot to pick up the voidcores
stable fiber
new bug huh?
i dont think this is a bug
rose ibex
hope i can still roll on it
stable fiber
its not a actual cast so it doesnt get counted as such
rose ibex
if i redo it
rose ibex
ill do it for science :)
fleet kite
I just got a 90 character. What dungeon do u guys think I shoul dprioritize to use my rolls on for mythic? https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/vmkTNazUodaUpWvsJUvXak
hybrid needle
Pit. All items there are good
nova marsh
Literally the only item you dont want from pit is cloak
sacred zodiac
i hope this is bait because if it is it is really good
fleet kite
so I should just use them on pit?
I was thikning Sky Reach maybe but maybe im wrong
I was thinking the trinket or weapon would boost me big time
hybrid needle
Pit
pulsar frost
💀
ionic mica
pit is such a cracked loot pool for us
pulsar frost
ah yes the 30k dmg increase weapon from pit will be less then what you get from skyreach
ah yes
ionic mica
3 tier pieces weapon ring neck belt
stiff kettle
I for one would love a 30k dps increase lol
sacred zodiac
could be a potential 284 ilvl increase on the bracer
ionic mica
I was thinking the trinket or weapon would boost me big time
the skyreach trinket is nice yes, but you would prefer everything else from pit
pulsar frost
I for one would love a 30k dps increase lol
i miss big increase, now these days im happy looking at a 1k increase
hybrid needle
I just want mythic gaze
ionic mica
i miss big increase, now these days im happy looking at a 1k increase
i occasionally put a fury sim on wowaudit without an offhand by accident, it was nice to see 35k upgrade from a weapon drop
idk how fury would still be doing 50k without an offhand
hard dragon
Didn't get myth gaze this week but I got my myth chest piece at least ig
It titanforged avoidance
pulsar frost
next week
hybrid needle
I keep rolling pit. Gaze will come.. eventually
pulsar frost
1/2 chances left
pulsar frost
I keep rolling pit. Gaze will come.. eventually
i rolled gaze first week, now all i have to do is pit
rather get gaze out of the way first
hybrid needle
Since every single drop in pit still is an upgrade id rather get 2 guaranteed Upgrades instead of a gamble. But i see where u comin from
pulsar frost
I mean pit still gamble in a sense. I rolled a chest I had gotten from dreamrift already
Tho got ring after
Hoping for weapon snd neck next week
hybrid needle
I want neck and Ring next week. Even belt would be fine. Got the Hammer
crystal rain
I got cloak 🙁
pulsar frost
Trying to replace weapon stats. Have a myth mastery verse currently
hybrid needle
Whats cloak stats on catslyst ?
pulsar frost
And neck is just nice extra stats. Shoulder and helmet isn't bad either all upgrades
crystal rain
lemme check
crystal rain
haste vers on cloak
hybrid needle
Yikes
crystal rain
better rolls next week 
polar sundial
guys should i not take mythic shoulder/mythic chest from vault, but buy bonus roll? since im planning to roll in pit anyways and there could be chest and shoulders so i might scuff myself next week
hybrid needle
Cant tell if not seeing vault really
rose ibex
you can confirm it for us 🙂
it does indeed work!
ionic mica
guys should i not take mythic shoulder/mythic chest from vault, but buy bonus ro...
if that is the only good thing in your vault then yeah you might as well take an extra bonus roll. Also, are your vault items 272 or higher than that cos its a raid slot?
rose ibex
did you get anything good?
a shitty belt 🥲
rose ibex
yeah its just alt stuff anyways
polar sundial
if that is the only good thing in your vault then yeah you might as well take an...
i got cloak with good stats, but i think we craft cloak no? its a completly fresh char. nearly full mythic crest nothing crafted and waiting for next week for max power gain. so its an alt basically
ionic mica
i got cloak with good stats, but i think we craft cloak no? its a completly fres...
then yeah i think you just take extra bonus rolls, you are going to roll minimum 7 out of 8 times for items in pit so removing the risk of getting a chest or shoulder that you already took from vault seems sensible to me
haughty gate
Is anyone else just unsatisfied with the current state of warriors? Especially arms (raid wise)
Just curious, maybe blizz will actually pay attention to us
ebon tendon
we need to threaten to shut down the discord
haughty gate
I feel like slayer for example is a giga gambling machine atm, and super unreliable
hybrid needle
Arms is fine honestly. U wont see yourself in the dmg Meter but its not Thaaat horrible
pulsar frost
Raid arms is whatever. But key arms is so fun
I have my myth trinkets besides heart so idrc for raid anymore. Tho I still need heart but meh
haughty gate
Dunno, before 12.0.5 I was actually doing some numbers as slayer in raids
Now im just dogshit
ripe field
Only arms complaint is that Demolish should feel more impactful.
haughty gate
Ik its skill issue too but it just feels so ass
pulsar frost
Only arms complaint is that Demolish should feel more impactful.
It is impactful tho
Demo does nice big deeps
pulsar frost
Said it should feel more impactful. Im only saying its impactful. Not that you didnt say it wasn't impfactful.
hybrid needle
Especially with the 5s reduction on might cap it feels very great
pulsar frost
Especially with the 5s reduction on might cap it feels very great
I do wish cs was same or slightly more cdr
But overall I like the changes
haughty gate
I just want slayer to actually be viable in raids
pulsar frost
I need to do more slayer. I've done 1 slayer key and it felt meh
haughty gate
Colossus is good in keys
hybrid needle
Did you see the bossdps Charts
ionic mica
arms just needs more damage in all its ST buttons
hybrid needle
Fury last spot by quite a bit
ionic mica
adding anything to any of our aoe stuff would get silly very fast
pulsar frost
I just wish our ST in keys was better without funnel
ionic mica
they could buff the main target damage of demolish i suppose, like they did with tempest for enhance about 10 times last expansion
while keeping the cleave part the same
pulsar frost
Judt increase every ability damage ez pz
ionic mica
that and some MS/exe/OP damage would be plenty
well
not cleave
(ofc i would take an aura buff)
pulsar frost
Ms and op. Exe is just useless for col
ionic mica
yeah but it would be nice for slayer to not be left in the dust
pulsar frost
If they judt reverted slayer changes they would still be decently good
Or competitive
haughty gate
Yep
hybrid needle
Removing rts from ms is yikes ye
wicked aurora
I just want slayer to actually be viable in raids
you mean playing slayer on 6/9 fights this tier isn't viable?
polar sundial
at what key lvl does warrior become strong again after cleave change? when can i double demolish?
wicked aurora
at what key lvl does warrior become strong again after cleave change? when can i...
?
pulsar frost
at what key lvl does warrior become strong again after cleave change? when can i...
Should be able to 10 and above
granite coral
Get a shaman and a monk, then you do good damage
polar sundial
im doing 10s rn but wihtout monk or shaman tho
most of the time all mobs but 1 are dead
before ic an demolish agian
pulsar frost
Judt spam MS ez pz demo
granite coral
First demo you can send at 5-6 stacks when you pop CDs on a pull then only send with 10 stacks
polar sundial
Judt spam MS ez pz demo
ms prio higher then cleave? no right in aoe
polar sundial
First demo you can send at 5-6 stacks when you pop CDs on a pull then only send ...
copy that
wicked aurora
3 targets cleave>ms
granite coral
Sometimes you can get lucky with crits and you’ll have like 8-9 stacks
pulsar frost
I mean 1 or 2 MS in aoe espically if crits gives like 15-20 sec cdr
Maybe not 20. But lots of cdr
pulsar frost
You can weave in 1 or 2 extra MS and get demo up
Normally how you get another one up before Cs comes up at 10 secs
pulsar frost
First demo you can send at 5-6 stacks when you pop CDs on a pull then only send ...
I always send at 10 even at pull
wicked aurora
just do
pulsar frost
I never do 5
granite coral
pulsar frost
I can try to find the timeline. On phone
ionic mica
you can also get a decent amount of stacks while the tank gathers
stuck yacht
This season, most likely, there will be no more class tuning?
ionic mica
the answer really is to just crit ms a lot
pulsar frost
you can also get a decent amount of stacks while the tank gathers
Thid is true
ionic mica
This season, most likely, there will be no more class tuning?
impossible to tell
minor gust
This season, most likely, there will be no more class tuning?
very likely no more tuning
pulsar frost
This season, most likely, there will be no more class tuning?
There's always M+ tuning
minor gust
this is around that time they usually stop
ionic mica
no more pre-announced tuning like we had first 4 resets of the season though
minor gust
and focus on next patch
pulsar frost
Later into the season
minor gust
There's always M+ tuning
pulsar frost
Im prepared for the arms nuke tuning for when they tune m+
stuck yacht
There's always M+ tuning
More buff for dk/lock/aug?
wicked aurora
kinda excited for the new FFXIV expansion ngl
pulsar frost
https://tenor.com/view/showme-show-me-morpheus-gif-5144220
First pull im able to get 2 demo off in 1 cs
wispy kettle
There's always M+ tuning
another 15% to devour dh 
granite coral
So as I said above you can get lucky with crits and pull off 10 stacks for each, but you wait for 10 stacks every time?
pulsar frost
I mean getting to 10 stacks isn't hard and you get to 10 for most part before demo even comes up. Where do you think the cdr comes from
Are you doing keys where you dont have stacks or have demo come up with 10 stacks?
Besides some downtime in keys. You shouldn't have to. Send 5 stacks demo in AOE pulls
Only time I send 4 or 5 is in ST bosses tho
dense hound
Is arms the go to for raid now, or still fury
granite coral
Both are meh
pulsar frost
I’m only talking about on pull
Just MS and cleave while tank gathers. Solved this ez pz
granite coral
Ideally yes if you get 10 go for it, but if you get extremely unlucky don’t withhold sending it because it’ll impede your damage etc and it’ll be hard to catch up in the key
hybrid needle
Why devourer so low? Needs buff
rustic reef
Anyone had a problem on paladins where they wouldnt have enough rage in the opener? Im doing charge rend cs avatar into demolish ravager i cant consitetenly get enough rage to get triple cleave off in the ravager window in the start
ionic mica
pray your auto attack on pull isnt when the boss is immune
pray it crits
you could OP after rend to give a little more time for rage gen if you find youre regularly struggling
deft bluff
I struggle for rage on Dragaons mythic too
I just
Struggle for rage
It happens often
hybrid needle
Isnt it lovely when overpower is on CD and you are eyeing your grayed out Mortal strike
plush jacinth
Has the deeo wound sbug been fixed? or is that coming with weekly reset?
wicked aurora
pray your auto attack on pull isnt when the boss is immune
Why would you target the two that go immune?
ionic mica
Why would you target the two that go immune?
idk what this person is doing
frosty inlet
you probably wanna wait a little on pull to rend to make sure the mass dispel has gone out (ideally shouldn't be more than a second), so I tend to overpower once first. Then again, my logs are ass, so I probably don't know what I'm talking about
vale stirrup
hey guys , is heart better than plume?
granite coral
Sim it
echo tendon
sim it
vale stirrup
i dont see anyone using plume tbh
granite coral
Most don’t have it
echo tendon
its a lot easier to get a mythic heart than a mythic plume
latent moss
ye
granite coral
Has the deeo wound sbug been fixed? or is that coming with weekly reset?
Still broke methinks
hybrid needle
In singletarget specc or m+ specc
leaden garnet
How mmuch u guys doing ST on dummies
Sim yourself and compare your performance to the Sim
Adjust the sim parameters to remove the raid buffs you don't have
runic heath
arms bug fixed?
warped owl
No
near ice
They don’t even know it exists I’m pretty sure
warped owl
Write a bug report. That’s what I did
runic heath
ty team
haughty gate
What bug?
runic heath
interaction with apex, bleed, and fervor
we're not getting bleeds when spending our heroic strike with cleave
sacred zodiac
just slams in general from cleave
gaunt canyon
is there any real point in switching to slayer for AA
sharp galleon
more ST dmg
haughty meadow
what should our ST be in m+ for colo
sand totem
hey lads, when are we expected to receive the refund on nebulous voidcores? on reset?
stray vault
hey lads, when are we expected to receive the refund on nebulous voidcores? on r...
We got them a couple days ago I believe, if you didn't use your voidcores before the fix you'll get nothing now
hybrid needle
what should our ST be in m+ for colo
Im sitting at 60-70k pure ST based on procs and mechanics. Id like to believe thats a good average
stray vessel
istheir a way to add the trinket to the cd manager?
haughty meadow
Im sitting at 60-70k pure ST based on procs and mechanics. Id like to believe th...
can you explain your rotation I feel like mine is still low
HS>MS>OP and then SD exe swaps prio with OP in their range. CDS its just cleave 3 times and follow that correct?
upper sparrow
Is macroing CS and Avatar okay?
sage haven
hiho how do we sim for m+? 5 targets 1 min or 6 targets 1 min?
hybrid needle
can you explain your rotation I feel like mine is still low
Keep Rend up > MS > HS > OP > SD > Slam
I dont ever press cleave in St anymore tbh
I usually hold CS for a few seconds until demolish is actually up since it tends to not get reset early enough in ST
hybrid needle
Is macroing CS and Avatar okay?
I wouldnt. In execute cs you would waste a good ammount of avatar uptime
hybrid needle
hiho how do we sim for m+? 5 targets 1 min or 6 targets 1 min?
I do Singletarget and 5 mobs.
Some do 3, 7 or 8 mobs. There is no "right or wrong" answer
sage haven
I do Singletarget and 5 mobs.
Some do 3, 7 or 8 mobs. There is no "right or wro...
i wish they would make dslice good^^ would be so nice to have only 1 option for m+ sim to make it fast and easy xD xD xD
haughty meadow
Keep Rend up > MS > HS > OP > SD > Slam
I dont ever press cleave in St anymore ...
your not cleaving during ravager?
haughty meadow
Keep Rend up > MS > HS > OP > SD > Slam
I dont ever press cleave in St anymore ...
and MS over HS now always?
nova marsh
your not cleaving during ravager?
Tbh you dont even have to press ravager in st atm
hybrid needle
your not cleaving during ravager?
Nope. I used to but it feels bad
haughty meadow
Tbh you dont even have to press ravager in st atm
ok
and MS is always over HS now?
teal glen
Quick question, do we keep avatar untill ravager is back up for m+? everything lines except ravager and avatar
hybrid needle
Well i mean MS increases cs duration. Since overpower triggers both ms and hs you press whichever comes up or back to back anyways. Best case you can get both globals into cs if you go with ms first, plus ms has a cd while hs doesnt.
Thats my logic behind it, even if wowhead says hs over ms
sand totem
We got them a couple days ago I believe, if you didn't use your voidcores before...
Oh its in currency tab. Im a fool. Thank ye
stable fiber
WOOHOOOOO
haughty meadow
Well i mean MS increases cs duration. Since overpower triggers both ms and hs yo...
whats your opener look like to get into 10stack demo asap
hybrid needle
whats your opener look like to get into 10stack demo asap
In ST just send it.
Charge > Rend > CS > MS > Demo. If no rage for ms i Demo on 0
regal prism
So im getting information now that Arms is doing better than Fury? m+ and raid?
rose matrix
You know it's bad when you got to queue for a m+ and the only time you see a warrior in the group is when they're leader
stable fiber
@latent moss IT MUST DIE TONIGHT
well it could die tomorrow i guess
but IT MUST BE TONIGHT
vivid pike
Do I use The Wowhead Raid Multitarget for Paladins or do i use the M+ talent tree
stable fiber
Do I use The Wowhead Raid Multitarget for Paladins or do i use the M+ talent tre...
use the m+ one and change the spec tree to fit more for raid
polar sundial
guys i bonus roll 2x, PIT. one time chest one time cloak. will the 3rd roll be weapon?!?!
smoky kayak
Do I use The Wowhead Raid Multitarget for Paladins or do i use the M+ talent tre...
they're the same build, just arterial bleed + different class talents since you don't need stuns
nova marsh
guys i bonus roll 2x, PIT. one time chest one time cloak. will the 3rd roll be w...
If you believe hard enough sure
polar sundial
thank your sir! thank you so much @nova marsh
reef glade
vivid pike
they're the same build, just arterial bleed + different class talents since you ...
Stupid question but what bosses would I use this Tree for?
nova marsh
Stupid question but what bosses would I use this Tree for?
Probally just paladins
finite wasp
does anyone here also have puzzlebox simming higher than gaze?
silver sapphire
W
dusty dagger
why fervor still borked 🫠
scarlet mortar
anyone tried using bizentiens ST Col build?
steep escarp
Simming my 280 arms warrior for ST just makes me wonder how balancing ended up the way it is this season
icy atlas
My guess is Blizzard decided Warrior was a cleave class this season. And balanced that by making a ton of cleave fights
steep escarp
That's great that we can cleave
But Unholy can also cleave and deals an ass ton of ST
icy atlas
Tell me about it 🫠
steep escarp
Genuinely prefer to play my arms warrior over my DK but it's starting to feel troll at this point in keys if mobs aren't pulled into the boss
minor gust
icy atlas
Sounds like you should stick to DK
icy atlas
Don’t worry, next season it’ll be someone else’s turn at the bottom
steep escarp
have you tried doing something about it instead of whining in here
Nope, this is about as far as I've gotten.
tepid hull
have you tried doing something about it instead of whining in here
Ever considered he might be a tourist here
minor gust
tepid hull
Tell me I'm wrong
steep escarp
Tf are you even on about
tepid hull
A "tourist" in a hobby is a derogatory term for someone perceived as a temporary, insincere participant—often a newcomer or outsider—who doesn't share the core community’s values, deep interest, or long-term commitment. They are accused of trying to change the hobby's culture, forcing outside ideologies, or participating only for social clout, often by newcomers or those deemed "not real fans"
leaden garnet
have you tried doing something about it instead of whining in here
What can we actually do about it? there are so many morons complaining at blizzard that surely they just ignore people bitching on the forums
And they already have access to logs and other performance metrics
vast helm
What can we actually do about it? there are so many morons complaining at blizza...
True .
wicked aurora
does berserker rage fear immunity work for dragons fear breath if you cast it before the breath?
smoky kayak
does berserker rage fear immunity work for dragons fear breath if you cast it be...
it does
minor gust
What can we actually do about it? there are so many morons complaining at blizza...
When it comes to tuning absolutely nothing!
rose matrix
Can't wait for Tuesday to check for patch notes scroll down and not even see warrior on the list
delicate mulch
we just send colo smash on CD in keys?
rose matrix
It's better to send with CS
But sometimes you will get really good CDR cause of good crits
delicate mulch
but the CDR is way shorter
rose matrix
That's when I just send it
delicate mulch
gotcha thought so
fringe slate
What is the %dps loss of this bug in raid and M+?
rose matrix
Obviously observe the pull as well and decide whether or not it's worth
fringe slate
hwats bug?
Arms warrior change to the Mortal Wounds talent that made it apply Deep Wounds on Slam crits rather than Cleave crits is bugged. Slam/Heroic Strike crits for casts triggered by the Fervor of Battle talent (automatically casts them when Cleave/WW hits 3 or more targets) don't apply Deep Wounds.
unkempt wren
After weeks of trying for some crit gear and finally going back arms last week. Hi again,god i fuggin hate fury xD
pastel moss
did colossus get ST buffs? is that why everyone's playing it now?
rose matrix
It did and Slayer got aoe nerfs
hybrid needle
did colossus get ST buffs? is that why everyone's playing it now?
Slight ST buff, slight MT nerf.
Issue is more that Slayer got nerfed which Puts col in a better light
rose matrix
Which is really sad because Slayer felt way better
pastel moss
does the ST buff entail actually pressing execute? or is that still just a dead button outside of procs
rose matrix
You don't press it at all outside of SD anymore in Colossus
hybrid needle
Pretty much dead. If you press it my accident say byebye to your rage for the rest of the fight
pastel moss
that was the whole thing for me why i wasn't really interested in arms this season lol
the spec known for execute running a build that doesn't actually press execute
kinda cringe
hybrid needle
Slayer is all about exeqt and bladestorm, youll like it
knotty charm
execute feels like dogshit to press for all specs, even in slayer its not great. u get rage starved way too easily now
they took away 45% crit chance and dmg with slayers marks
rose matrix
It feels good in Slayer to me
knotty charm
and gave us 3% crit chance and damage instead with fall off stacks
minor gust
Arms did not have 45% crit chance with execute that was fury
knotty charm
slayers mark from slayer tree
3 stacks was 45% crit chance and dmg
speaking about slayer specifically
and especially with last tier set, guaranteed 1 stack, (15%) and easily get to 2-3
rose matrix
I prefer it being a buff than a target debuff
knotty charm
I prefer it being a buff than a target debuff
but 3% down from 15% per stack???
now we maybe get 4 stacks, 12% after getting very lucky
executioner stacks feel like nothing now aside from CDR on BS
stable fiber
this version is much better in execute
since executioner applies to all executes now
rather then the debuff which was just 1 execute
stable fiber
now we maybe get 4 stacks, 12% after getting very lucky
it only goes up to 3 stacks
but yeah
they neutered the amount it gives
because it applies to all executes now
the only cringe thing is that if you dont have any stacks
execute gives 0 cdr
on bs
minor gust
3 stacks was 45% crit chance and dmg
it was 5% not 15% per stack of MFE
man trying to find a TWW slayer tree so I can double check
knotty charm
it was 15%
per stack of marked for execution
15% damage, crit%, and crit dmg
i can concede that the fact it affects all executes now is "better"
stable fiber
i think he is right btw^
knotty charm
but it doesnt feel as chunky
knotty charm
and i feel like big chunky dmg is what atleast Arms is all about
worn knoll
they could totally give us focused rage back ngl
empower rune weapon on frost is the same thing basically
minor gust
im just tryna remember didnt realize x3 MFE executes had like a 80%+ Crit chance when u add MFE + ur Crit and talents in TWW
vast helm
they could totally give us focused rage back ngl
we have no rage how to focus
worn knoll
we have no rage how to focus
remove slam GG
minor gust
Either way design wise this version of slayer plays insanely better they are just off the mark on tuning.
only thing it it still has the slot machine casino just in a different way
wicked aurora
Either way design wise this version of slayer plays insanely better they are jus...
eh
TWW slayer played good
jade ember
I get pretty triggered playing Slayer in keys sometimes rn
wicked aurora
the problem was Ashen Jugg
jade ember
Getting unlucky with execute resets and not having bladestorm for that big pull is the worst feeling in the world
knotty charm
slayer could be tuned fine, itd still be so annoying to play currently how it is designed
wicked aurora
All they really needed to do was get rid of jugg
minor gust
TWW slayer played good
sounds like someone who never tried playing slayer in a key
and how cursed it was to play
knotty charm
hell, Arms in its entirety is annoying to play rn imo
rage pooling sucks. execute phase feels terrible when u cant press execute or u griefing
jade ember
TWW Slayer during the last season was pretty cracked but we also got to spam reap pretty much every single bloody global
minor gust
slayer could be tuned fine, itd still be so annoying to play currently how it is...
whats annoying about it outta curiousity?
jade ember
Oh as fury though
vast helm
At this critical juncture, I've given up all hope for Blizzard. I just want them to fix the FoB bugs as soon as possible and at least add Mortal Wounds to BS and Ravager, so we can feel more power of these two abilities when we use them.
minor gust
TWW Slayer during the last season was pretty cracked but we also got to spam rea...
tjat was firu
holy
I tried typing
knotty charm
whats annoying about it outta curiousity?
bladestorm feels good, the unreliable CDR from falling off executioner stacks feels bad. if they introduced based CDR per execute itd fix that. Reap is good when it happens, but now only works in aoe outside of SD. Constantly having to gamble whether you you can a SD proc before losing all ur executioner stacks just feels like dogshit
worn knoll
Either way design wise this version of slayer plays insanely better they are jus...
I like slayer for single target, but honestly sweeping strikes + rend feel horrid to press on anything 2+ targets
knotty charm
atleast last season, consuming MFE gave u CDR, didnt require SD
worn knoll
wouldnt mind sweeping so much if it was off GCD at the very least
knotty charm
the SD requirement for getting CDR feels like shit.
and that wasnt how it was in TWW. Any execute could consume the MFE and therefore give u CDR. giving you more control of your BS especialyl for M+
empty sluice
Idk why there isnt something like after cs your next 2-3 cleaves will proc reap
vast helm
Idk why there isnt something like after cs your next 2-3 cleaves will proc reap
Ya , or maybe after CS your next 2-3 MS for free
stable fiber
i hate BS
jade ember
Just put bladestorm back on AM. SD triggering reap is good enough.
leaden garnet
Putting BS on AM means you often don't have three stacks of imminent demise
And personally one of my favourite things about playing slayer in m+ was the variable CD of BS which meant sometimes it was correct to desync from Avatar to use on AoE
minor gust
bladestorm feels good, the unreliable CDR from falling off executioner stacks fe...
yeah after our last convo I cant help but agree that RNG CDR with executioner stacks is not ideal. I still think it plays better than TWW slayer overall but I wouldnt object if they remove BS CDR all together from slayer and just add BS back to AM
I think that would be best case
leaden garnet
Putting BS on AM but not Ravager would be strange though
empty sluice
Would rather add mortal back to reap proc 😀
leaden garnet
And if Ravager goes on AM then Colossus gets a big aoe buff
leaden garnet
It'd be a problem
stable fiber
BS doesnt proc reap, its CDR is inconsistent, it doesnt really do that much damage in aoe, locked into a animation for 5 seconds
F tier button
leaden garnet
Colossus already has extremely strong aoe
rose matrix
Lowkey should have even better aoe considering whatever that st is
vast helm
we can still dream and hope
leaden garnet
Or Colo could have actual single target
Not like other classes have to pick one or the other
Cough UH cough Devo
Ret too
rose matrix
It's funny because both of thos specs also take no skill
minor gust
Putting BS on AM but not Ravager would be strange though
in a just world ravager would be removed
leaden garnet
I also feel that the cdr change to Demolish didn't fully fix the ST issues
You still don't have Demo up for every CS unless you get lucky with crits
knotty charm
remove bladestorm from spec tree, just add it to slayer tree. let it inherit effects of AM, give BS CDR to SD regardless of executioner stacks.
leaden garnet
Lower the cdr to 3 seconds and make MS (and shield slam) give 2 stacks baseline and 3 on crits
vast helm
I don't know why, but playing a warrior makes me feel like I'm missing out on some human rights.
leaden garnet
Make it 10 seconds Blizzard
The issue is you can have CS off cd and still only have 9 stacks
rapid ermine
I did my bonus roll on PoS and got the neck, what's the next best dungeon to use it on?
minor gust
thats a question only you and your current gear can answer
cedar cairn
I don't know why, but playing a warrior makes me feel like I'm missing out on so...
We're strugglers
nova marsh
I don't know why, but playing a warrior makes me feel like I'm missing out on so...
we are
Cuz we aren't omega magic junkies
potent drum
If your demolish is not synch with colossus smash, how long would you hold at maximum?
Lets say your colossus smash is coming in 15 sec? Would you wait to sync the 2 cd?
hybrid needle
Depends. Do u have a full Pack in Front of you that you can cleave like a madman for cdr?
Yes > Send demolish
No > Hold
potent drum
Lets say im in a pack about to drop my second demolish at around 40% pack hp
rose matrix
Honestly as long as you can get juicy 20sec cdr from sweeped ms
you're good to send it at 15+ seconds on cs
hybrid needle
Id go with yes then. If you hold cs u wont use demolish until next Pack
modest marlin
Am I doing something wrong if Crucible is outsimming a 276 Puzzlebox?
minor gust
no
modest marlin
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mA8AdNNMXLcYqUvFgE8Y5f scrub warrior alt, this just wasn't what I was expecting from the trinket sim lol.
nova marsh
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/mA8AdNNMXLcYqUvFgE8Y5f scrub warrior alt,...
With all upgrades?
potent drum
I also have a hard time with the first pack of the dungeon, I try to get my 10 demolosh stacks before sending all the cds but I either find myself greeding a few risky mortal strike before the tank has full aggro or falling so much behind in dps vs the group cause I hold my cd for a good 10sec
modest marlin
except for myth crests on the puzzle box cause well I don't have enough yet
modest marlin
yeah, all upgrades on the crucible of course
rose matrix
I also have a hard time with the first pack of the dungeon, I try to get my 10 d...
You can honestly just Ravager and Avatar/CS and send your three cleaves and MS then demolish
If you can pre stack on your way
potent drum
Yeah I try to avoid that to not pull aggro
Or do it sneaky safely
Amazing man, thanks
That helps
nova marsh
Yeah for crit classes it makes the thing cracked
Like unironically probally one of our better trinkets
rose matrix
I didn't replace it till I got the trinket from Vorasius
pulsar frost
Like unironically probally one of our better trinkets
I want heart. Gimme
modest marlin
alas, I got all excited about the puzzle box, I'm sure it'll pull ahead with passive STR after it's nilhammered
pulsar frost
Guidon is holding me well tho. Kinda cracked with col
rose matrix
Can't wait to get Gaze so I can retire Puzzlebox forever
pulsar frost
alas, I got all excited about the puzzle box, I'm sure it'll pull ahead with pas...
If the cast wasn't a hard cast it'd be good or the take choice but shit sucks imo
rose matrix
I was doing the 2 target boss on Pit
pulsar frost
Id rather take the time pre pull to just stack demo stacks instead of just hard casting it
pulsar frost
I have myrh trinkets already so I doubt I'll take puzzle box
If it comes even in myth
rose matrix
It's not worth it
Maybe for beloren
In Colossus it sims worse in st and slightly better in aoe
Slayer it is worse in both
For me at least
pulsar frost
I mainly sim for keys anyways. Have gaze and guidon. Heart Sims higher then gaze with guidon but I cba to do second boss on mythic pugs
I'll eventually get it if the guild starts mythic void. But im fine with my trinks rn. Am big fan of guidon
rose matrix
It dropped today I and I payed a guy 500k for Heart and it had avoidance
Worth it imo
Never have to pug to that guy again which can be a pain because of the mythic lockout
pulsar frost
My guidon makes col very nice in aoe and decently in ST
With the extra haste
Its whatever. Have gaze and a myth trinket. No real need to replace it till I actually get heart. Am not hard pressed. I do want the stuff from pit tho espically the weapon
keen oxide
Is Slayer better for low keys?
modest marlin
If the cast wasn't a hard cast it'd be good or the take choice but shit sucks im...
my warrior is never gonna raid though.
pulsar frost
my warrior is never gonna raid though.
fair, can use box or just get another trink from keys
but you could try mythic dreamrift its very puggable
modest marlin
If I do that it'll be on my main first haha
vale warren
owning... but didn't clear the key ;-;
balmy kindle
^^ I bet they were below you even in bosses
marble roost
how do i not blow my load and waste all my rage during execution windows?
I'm using overpower on cooldown and i still run out
minor gust
you are gonna rage starv it happens
hard dragon
Best thing you can do from what I can tell if time your auto attacks with a charge
If you can't charge then that's a gg
rose matrix
Is demo warlock rotation as easy as it look on wowhead or does it have some hidden complexity to it
hybrid needle
Its that easy. Watch impcount, Pop CDs based on that and.. thats it
uneven minnow
love to see it
slow saddle
Gz!
uneven minnow
i'm annoyed i have to spend more hero crests now though lol
rose matrix
I think he means myth
uneven minnow
no i'm annoyed cuz i was kinda hoping to get 1/6 ring
slow saddle
Yes u gotta craft a cloak // bracer combo for arcano
uneven minnow
and i'm capped on hero crests rn
slow saddle
Do u mean mythic crest?
rose matrix
Yea
rose matrix
It's either that or go for heart/gaze
slow saddle
Prob depends on gear u have
uneven minnow
crit haste all the way down in pit
slow saddle
Y i just didnt understand y u were complainin bout gettin the best item, besides many use ring set as col
Or well farover and biz do last i checked
pulsar frost
Y i just didnt understand y u were complainin bout gettin the best item, besides...
ring set as col 🤔
uneven minnow
Y i just didnt understand y u were complainin bout gettin the best item, besides...
I just meant it as light annoyance
slow saddle
ring set as col 🤔
I know, but it is seen
rose matrix
I think it might be a bit better st
uneven minnow
makes my spreadsheet brain angry
rose matrix
Not even sure if that is true for colossu tho
pulsar frost
i should probably sim it at some point, but i mean im rocking myth void and weedding ring, wedding ring isnt maxed tho since crest
uneven minnow
I'm not even really sure what to craft next week
rose matrix
Either way I am rolling Pit before I go to npx
uneven minnow
in the worldo?
rose matrix
He is running it because he has the other ring on 289
slow saddle
Probably y
pulsar frost
maybe cause he just doesnt have myth ring for second one or something
lemme go sim myself
uneven minnow
double crit haste ring beats out set bonus
i'm 99% sure
or crit haste + midnight ring
pulsar frost
gotta use what you have currently ya know, but lemme sim what i have vs what if i had set
slow saddle
On mythix
uneven minnow
i'm ganna highroll mythic ring so hard in my 2/9 vault
pulsar frost
ye no, even a maxed light ring at myth is a -5 dps loss to what im currently using, and once i upgrade my wedding ring to 6/6 its a .4% gain
ima gonna assume that guy is gonna try to roll for wedding myth and just use that instead of light
uneven minnow
well no, but as single target
slow saddle
Nah arms still better as slayee
uneven minnow
wack
pulsar frost
2 myth track weapons surely good
arms is gonna still hit harder lol
pulsar frost
i have a myth weapon but im in need of the pit one, its a win win, when i go back to fury ill have 2 myth
uneven minnow
my thought is belt
pulsar frost
IDK what to craft next week
belt?
slow saddle
Nothing
uneven minnow
I have to do 2 pits + see what is in my vault before crafting
slow saddle
Get upgrades
nova marsh
IDK what to craft next week
Belt and then you dont gotta craft anymore
slow saddle
Its a waste of crests though.potentially
uneven minnow
Its a waste of crests though.potentially
why?
slow saddle
Vault + bonus rolls then choose
uneven minnow
All the gear I have available to me is 1/6
slow saddle
Weak piece 2 upgrade
pulsar frost
you need a better trinket tho
slow saddle
Its a 20 crest cost
pulsar frost
ill probably just craft pieces for fury for haste mastery
uneven minnow
you need a better trinket tho <:KEKW:1486426802762154225>
🙁
pulsar frost
i have nothing else to craft on arms
uneven minnow
Its a 20 crest cost
wdym? 80 crests for 4 ranks is 20 per rank 1/5 to 5/6
slow saddle
U get 2/6
uneven minnow
out of vault? ye
slow saddle
For free if belt is 6/6 hc
uneven minnow
i'll check vault ofc
pulsar frost
hero upgrade
uneven minnow
and 2 pits
uneven minnow
ah
aint there yet ;-;
maybe next week depending on how bonus rolls go
if I hit ring belt I can upgrade trinkets and get hero achieve
uneven minnow
have this stupid thing
uneven minnow
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/hMrCd9DAb1gnmFN3?fight=36&phase=4&type=dama...
da hell u doing up there
pulsar frost
i mean its khazix
uneven minnow
pulsar frost
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/hMrCd9DAb1gnmFN3?fight=36&phase=4&type=dama...
your dks, demo, and dh all sleeping
what they doing
uneven minnow
that is a lot of damage
stable fiber
dks are same dps as me before they died
pulsar frost
idk dudes down 30k
uneven minnow
oh i see
wind hatch
i think the execute profile is just really good for the fight
uneven minnow
it's a small amount of time in phase 3
that's why damage so high
I thought that was the entire fight dps cuz I didn't pay attention to graph
pulsar frost
its mythic falls, 7:50 min fight on mythic lol
uneven minnow
ye
pulsar frost
even if he finishes his dps is still gonna be high
uneven minnow
I didn't realize the damage was only from phase 3
uneven minnow
ye
stable fiber
same with ddh
uneven minnow
slappa that execute button
wind hatch
he starts p3 near the bottom of the meters and if they didnt wipe he would have even more exe time
uneven minnow
it's the frostbolt meme but with execute + ms
wind hatch
as long as you dont get rage starved
uneven minnow
as long as you dont get rage starved <:clueless:1099922541923024997>
🙂
my shaman didn't show up to raid
I was very happy
wind hatch
even with shaman if you have shit rng it can happen
and you cant exactly charge for rage on lura
uneven minnow
just set up a target dummy /s
wind hatch
i felt rage starved at the end there
yeah I saw
stable fiber
think i need to OP more in execute
wind hatch
you had some diabolical sd rng
uneven minnow
surely my guild will kill 3/6 voidspire into chimaerus and I will get ribbon + gaze + heart
stable fiber
ye
ik the other boss technically isnt even targetable
but i wonder if there is a strange sweep interaction
the duplication of the duplication
iykwim
stable fiber
i mean you can pop sweep and see if it recues but i doubt it
oh also apparently the duplication damage is affected by boss debuffs on the other boss as well
so the mob you are hitting can have the 5% phys debuff, then it duplicates that 5% and if the other boss has the 5% phys debuff then it double dips
so 2x monk is needed on this boss
magic canopy
can monks/dhs tag each guy at the start
stable fiber
nah
magic canopy
they are close enough to be in range, but its prob why you never saw like warlocks double chaos bolting
in the race so makes sense
stable fiber
yup
magic canopy
sorry guys cant parse on lura we only run 1 monk hehe
marsh forge
im trying to learn arms for m+ and done a little prac in 16 tonight could anyone maybe peek at a log and see if theres anything glaringly bad i need to fix for me really quick?
magic canopy
if it double dips like that its pretty juicy
prob easy for devour since that spec is op you just have 2 or more
having 2x monk harder tho
rdruid is kinda cracked rn
magic canopy
yeah slayer is fine
minor gust
would slayer be viable pumps in the 12-16 range?
Fine in 17-18s play it if you just dont enjoy colo
clever crag
Meh its pretty decent in its niches
dim basalt
The niches the raid doesnt have besides paladins yes
hybrid needle
Well, you have 1 warrior per raidgroup and thats usually your tank (cause rwf, everyone wants to copy for whatever reason) Your DPS wont come close to quite a few other classes so warr priority is pretty low
bleak fog
Fuck this game, out of 8 items 6 is an upgrade (need or raw ilvl upgrade). Bonus roll gave med the 2 I did not need.. So after this week SOME ppl go away with 4 mythtrack extra if lucky (exploit or just Bliz that cant make anything right) and some with 0..
Bonusroll can go to hell
Ohh same happen on my monk 2 out of 10 item was no need.. Got the 2 there aswell
viscid fossil
Fuck this game, out of 8 items 6 is an upgrade (need or raw ilvl upgrade). Bonus...
yeah but lots of people got jack shit and people are myth track capped anyway and youre going to get a nice boost next week
bleak fog
I would say most ppl are not myth track capped?
Ppl that dont raid got 4
- bonusroll then
viscid fossil
what i am saying is, your not as far behind as you think
bleak fog
I know
radiant moon
you are if you are benched / not getting items due to being the hunter buff spot in raid 😄
radiant moon
i mean im 281.75 with 0 items from raid (we are 5/9 m atm)
with reclears every week
tame hill
Fuck this game, out of 8 items 6 is an upgrade (need or raw ilvl upgrade). Bonus...
calma i got 6 bonusrolls and out of 8 items i didnt get the 2 i need
thorn stream
you shouldnt have gotten 6 to begin with