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viscid fossil
buoyant barn
You should get the trinket from rep in voidstorm
viscid fossil
jk i hate pvp im so bad
strange comet
Mood
viscid fossil
was actually talking about tbc so you got me
cedar cairn
in exe range on slayer do i want to spam exe when window opens or only prio on proc?
viscid fossil
but am curious why sudden death isnt mentioned there
its prob just still not worth / worth mentioning
modest lagoon
Is cleave's slam DW fixed?
latent moss
its prob just still not worth / worth mentioning
caus eu execute anyway
having sd doesnt change anything u play like usual
buoyant barn
15+ is the new 10+
wicked aurora
easier season is not it
buoyant barn
I mean, its easier to farm crests at least
soft peak
bro
is mythic raiding that easy only pugs in mythic wtf
back in my days is wasnt like this
buoyant barn
Mechanics are easy for the first few boss, like always
marsh forge
yeh and more ppl pugging i feel like
buoyant barn
You could do first 4 in raid since always nearly
marsh forge
cus u don’t need the same lock out to get 1 myth vault slot now
since u can tap chim and imp
buoyant barn
But yeah, since we gear up easily, its easier to pug
soft peak
idk this
is too easy bro
i have almost 3k rio and 270 ilv in 2 and half days
wtf is this
buoyant barn
The real grind will begin soon dw
viscid fossil
caus eu execute anyway
yea no makes sense. really nice to see how execue is lowest prio during execute range btw
soft peak
The real grind will begin soon dw
yes i know what i mean is that you gear up a lot easier and keys are easy af
latent moss
i mean its not really
u press it by far the most
out of any other ability
prio means nothing if all other buttons are based on conditions
viscid fossil
bc its available yeah not bc its good
strange comet
but am curious why sudden death isnt mentioned there
Based on this execute is going to get mashed pretty often. You need at least 2 execute to get #5, and ava/col have decent CDs
viscid fossil
no youre right i phrased it wrong. obviously SD makes no sense in exec
latent moss
tbh with u i dont play like that
i dont prio op>exe
i prio op>exe if im low on rage
strange comet
That prior list doesn't even have MS without stacks on it. I'm real dumb but I can mostly read
wind hatch
i prio op>exe if im low on rage
idk why archi removed that condition on the guide
viscid fossil
yeah op was the confusing part kinda
latent moss
That prior list doesn't even have MS without stacks on it. I'm real dumb but I c...
ye cause u never press it in exe without
2x ep
wind hatch
i mean if you're capped on rage pressing op > exe is a loss right?
strange comet
ye cause u never press it in exe without
Ye that's what I'm saying. I do as the Archie guides. Or if it glows and I'm panicking
latent moss
not sure i didnt run slayer sims but i can guarantee u that was checked already
if u want the full apl u can find it on simc
or run a quick sim and go html report -> profile
viscid fossil
yeah getting another big value global in can outweigh the rage
id assume this has been simmed
latent moss
i mean if you're capped on rage pressing op > exe is a loss right?
the thing is
this should never happen realistically
maybe while transitioing into exe phase
and sending bladestorm
and lucky skyfury
wind hatch
and sending bladestorm
yeah mainly bladestorm
latent moss
also exe>op leads to starvation
tame perch
Did they fix the bug(s) yet? Cba even playing rn
sudden owl
how good is arms warrior in decor duels?
latent moss
at some point u will starve badly
i think the apl says exe with sd or more than 40 rage
then op then exe
dire hinge
remembers what?
soft peak
Whats the best to do in certain times when in raid
limber valve
Did they fix the bug(s) yet? Cba even playing rn
colo bug is so minor, we might even be the least buggiest spec rn
soft peak
Think of next ability
wind hatch
i think the apl says exe with sd or more than 40 rage
its op > exe when less than 80 rage
latent moss
makes sense why its not included in the guide
its prolly sub 1% to follow these conditions
wind hatch
yeah
latent moss
u do not want to see pre archi apls
wind hatch
you basically never overcap on rage anyway
latent moss
full of sub. 5% increases xddd
latent moss
you basically never overcap on rage anyway
ye and ig keeping ur rage healthy by prioing op
avoids starving
and starving is legit unavoidable if u press exe a lot
u will eventually run out of lucky sd procs and skyfury procs
then u will sit at 22 rage with nothing but exe to press
and it WONT proc tactician
cause the game is evil
wind hatch
i miss old tactician tbh
lone yarrow
and it WONT proc tactician
dire hinge
Think of next ability
well there's always the 1-button rotation if you dont want to follow a 4 button priority system 
delicate jasper
Does Arms use everything in M+? or is there something that you guys never press
latent moss
what does everything mean
dire hinge
Does Arms use everything in M+? or is there something that you guys never press
we use most things in different situations.
If you're looking to reduce button bloat, remember that you dont have to cast Heroic Striike in AoE (Cleave casts it for you)
delicate jasper
what does everything mean
Skills
lone yarrow
Does Arms use everything in M+? or is there something that you guys never press
I mean we don't have shit to use to begin with hammer/wave and here goes our util
intim cry if you're feeling spicy
lone yarrow
cleave on st is not anymore even with ravager colo
latent moss
but i think it needs to be in mass exec window
dire hinge
Never press whirlwind 
(only appears if Cleave is **not **talented)
lone yarrow
but it's still very minor just slam may still be better
latent moss
ye i just dont ravager on st ever
lone yarrow
Never press whirlwind <:gladge:963970137701109820> (only appears if Cleave is **...
umm blizzard I can't find whirlwind in my spellbook
stable fiber
thats a good meme
wicked aurora
ye i just dont ravager on st ever
?
lone yarrow
thats a good meme
frost mages fumin
dire hinge
umm blizzard I can't find whirlwind in my spellbook
tbf Sweeping Strike is hidden for a lot of people's CDM by default for some reason
delicate jasper
Mortal Strike only ST , right?
latent moss
thats a good meme
bro i kinda gamed in that mythic pug lowk
wicked aurora
Mortal Strike only ST , right?
no
latent moss
bro surely
dire hinge
Mortal Strike only ST , right?
no, you press Mortal Strike a lot in AoE.
It gives you a tremendous amount of Colossus stacks and resets your Demolish rapidly.
latent moss
2 slots
lone yarrow
Mortal Strike only ST , right?
hell nah aoe is cleave > op > ms on slayer and cleave > ms > op on colo
lone yarrow
your ms giga glazes your demolish
latent moss
i rolled 9 on heart
i rolled like 80 on myth chest from chim
won it
then bonus rolled and got it again
lone yarrow
because ms sweeping strikes gives 2 stacks and each of these can crit for 4 stacks at a time
latent moss
sybau blizz
elder zodiac
is slayer completely dead in M+? or is it still the play with pug groups?
safe dagger
how much of a damage loss is fervor not working atm
vocal flicker
elder zodiac
damn, so gotta bite the bullet and do tank damage on bosses ig
prisma crag
Is fervor of battle still bugged or was it fixed?
icy atlas
damn, so gotta bite the bullet and do tank damage on bosses ig
If you want to play Slayer, just play Slayer. You’ll do fine
clever crag
for hc is it better to pot at pull with hero or exe phase ? when you only get one
rigid ravine
damn, so gotta bite the bullet and do tank damage on bosses ig
if you're not doing big push keys like last guy said you're fine playing w/e you want
dire hinge
Is fervor of battle still bugged or was it fixed?
Fervor itself works but it’s free slam doesnt apply mortal wounds
wicked aurora
is slayer completely dead in M+? or is it still the play with pug groups?
seems competitive still
elder zodiac
if you're not doing big push keys like last guy said you're fine playing w/e you...
I'm currently doing 17/18s, but the tanks are very hit or miss with pulling stuff onto bosses where possible
wicked aurora
I'm currently doing 17/18s, but the tanks are very hit or miss with pulling stuf...
shouldn't even matter that much tbf
in the overall success of the key that is
obviously big gain for colo boss dam
elder zodiac
yeah, that's why I was wondering if slayer was still a viable choice
in case of pug tanks mostly
wicked aurora
slayer isn't even down bad
elder zodiac
and maybe boss heavy dungeons like AA
wicked aurora
slayer does good aoe
gaunt canyon
can arms sim dungeon slice for aoe
elder zodiac
thank you all for the answers
soft peak
critcake is playing slayer and is doing very good in high keys
its good for ST too
mobs die fast
wind hatch
can arms sim dungeon slice for aoe
dungeon slice is not maintaned well atm
soft peak
how do you get scam with this fam 
elder zodiac
downloading from sketchy websites most likely
pulsar hollow
I think its a discord exploit with access. That was me yesterday without going on any sites or clicking shit. Ive been just playing wow with rl mates in call for like 6-7 hours and it just happened 🥲
wind hatch
I've seen several of those scams recently
viscid fossil
was it crypto or tiddies
pulsar hollow
Crypto tiddies
viscid fossil
pog
pulsar hollow
BoobCoin
viscid fossil
hodl forever
pulsar hollow
Hodl has a whole different meaning here 
viscid fossil
thats the yoke
hybrid needle
does it tho
feral breach
Did i miss 100% live nude women again 
viscid fossil
this man might be biased
viscid fossil
Did i miss 100% live nude women again <:sadge:820202363359854633>
not sure yet
feral breach
scarlet mortar
rose matrix
The ST isn't even great
halcyon valve
Slayer aoe is alright
rose matrix
Just better than whatever it is that Colossus st is
hasty pumice
holy fuck man
skyreach 20 last boss does not scale well
the damage is crazy
halfway there 🙏
@dim basalt time for you to catch up
minor gust
does it tho
I don't lie
minor gust
you claim you're the saviour of slayer
If it wasn't for me you would not be able to proc reap on SD
keen siren
Every1 switched to colo it’s over for slayer
minor gust
Cowards and posers
tardy crag
kind stag
slayer is for real playas
soft peak
its more fun
vale stirrup
268 here
vale stirrup
hasty pumice
Every1 switched to colo it’s over for slayer
spec is just stronger and tankier
with endless scaling damage intake that sadly is the criteria to look for
:peepostr
no global emotes i forgor
soft peak
You play slayer?
thorn stream
I still play slayer almost everywhere besides some bosses and a few dungs
keen siren
I like slayer more but colo just does more aoe dmg
Reap doesn’t do enough dmg
Buff reap proc rate or dmg
leaden garnet
Or make MS proc it again
leaden garnet
Unnecessary nerf for a low tier ST spec
Warriors are NOT allowed to be strong before the .3 patch
thorn stream
They did that so they can buff single target anytime soon
Without reap they probably can buff other stuff
But who knows exactly what they are doing/planning/thinking
peeking to devourer
minor gust
Reap doesn’t do enough dmg
It could use some but at least BS is fucking good
rain storm
im new to arms, like fresh 90 and im looking what to use voidcores on, is pit of saron good choice if im not gonna use it in raids?
thorn stream
It could use some but at least BS is fucking good
Amen to that
minor gust
minor gust
Amen to that
BS in a 17 MT goes hard
thorn stream
BS in a 17 MT goes hard
I like this distribution, ngl
ashen trout
BS in a 17 MT goes hard
did u make any adjustments to ur tree for .5? or just running wowhead
ashen trout
is it ST or 2t
somber wave
probably 2t
minor gust
did u make any adjustments to ur tree for .5? or just running wowhead
For that key I did wowhead build. But I have been doing a new build
This is like .5% ST loss for 2.5% more aoe and access to powerful for dungeons with multi target bosses
Only issue is it requires a shaman
minor gust
Or else the ST loss is much bigger
ashen trout
it feels like im playing classic the way i hunt for shams lmao
hybrid needle
BS in a 17 MT goes hard
Bu whats overall
minor gust
Think that key was like 180 and was only 2nd because I had 2 bad deaths
Otherwise I woulda been top
hybrid needle
Skilltree ?
hybrid needle
damn, no stance mastery?
nova marsh
damn, no stance mastery?
You can drop crushing force for it
hybrid needle
where u at @minor gust
hasty pumice
damn, no stance mastery?
You only really need stance mastery in high keys for the extra DR
vale stirrup
you guys have really good macros or really usefukk ones?
hybrid needle
ok
soft venture
I can’t get slayer to compete but then colossus seems so easy to do big dam now they like swapped from before lol
nova marsh
You only really need stance mastery in high keys for the extra DR
Extra dr can still be nice, especially if you fuck up mechs
hybrid needle
Casually doing keys
Casually do 20s 
paper gulch
Only issue is it requires a shaman
You could just sit on a totem. Ez.
minor gust
Casually do 20s <:okayge:917646812519739433>
Tell my friends to get on more so we can do more keys
We been playing like one day a week lately
Right now it's just me and my rogue shammy friend casually pugging a key or 2 a day
Think I'm like 3500 rn
wind hatch
Extra dr can still be nice, especially if you fuck up mechs
b-b-b-but less damage 🥺
viscid fossil
i mean, just dont
paper gulch
Idk if your bleeds are still ticking you can do dps while dead
viscid fossil
rend should do 1000% damage when youre dead so its viable to die at 2%
viscid fossil
yeah but er + dstance enables you to just soak otherwise deadly shit for more uptime
like knockback guy in AA
soft venture
If you do slayer in keys with bladestorm buff do u send it before the cleave spam in big aoe?
minor gust
If you do slayer in keys with bladestorm buff do u send it before the cleave spa...
CS then BS then cleave spam
soft venture
CS then BS then cleave spam
If ur in AOE and get a lot of procs so BS comes back before CS, do u send? Or just hold for next CS
wind hatch
i should play some slayer keys
smoky kayak
You can drop crushing force for it
dropping Jav is the harder part
vale stirrup
Guys is Plume worst than hunger both hc ?
nova marsh
dropping Jav is the harder part
ye cuz voice is basically worthless
hybrid needle
Think that key was like 180 and was only 2nd because I had 2 bad deaths
Thats my MT16 col. Guess im just bad
still cove
is slayer best raid choice?
only been doing m+ and just got picked up for a mythic guild. need to learn rotation asap. assume slayer is best for raiding?
mortal rivet
Thats my MT16 col. Guess im just bad
Just remember that the ret and hunter benefited from your sacrifice (battle shout)
So really you outdpsed them
viscid fossil
is running bl pet any loss for hunter?
wraith lichen
is running bl pet any loss for hunter?
Defensively but thats it
viscid fossil
ty
minor gust
If ur in AOE and get a lot of procs so BS comes back before CS, do u send? Or ju...
Always hold BS for a CS
lean geode
Bozo you'll be happy to know I finally updated wowa for arms after saying I'd do so like 3 weeks ago
Been v busy irl
minor gust
Thats my MT16 col. Guess im just bad
I mean yeah that's not bad at all.
lean geode
Well I opened the pull request, who knows when it'll be approved
minor gust
Thats my MT16 col. Guess im just bad
I'm sure with some better play and better RNG you top that easy. All 3 of you were close
viscid fossil
I'm sure with some better play and better RNG you top that easy. All 3 of you we...
very motivational
lean geode
Now when ppl ask about wow ana I can say it's updated
turns out master of warfare has multiple different spell IDs, and also that adding heroic strike to the spells list only mostly works, and you ALSO have to add it to an "abilities" list too
who knew
fuckass code base
in my defense on the MoW thing, I'm p sure it was different in beta logs that I was using to get most of the logic written months ago
urban fjord
WS is a tough key for overall since you do 0 dps on last boss
blissful tinsel
@smoky kayak any news on a fix for arms? Do we need to cry harder on the forums
hybrid needle
i mean.. i do like.. 60k singletarget? Thats cryworthy for sure
urban fjord
you did 60k on last boss?
shy cairn
60k ST gang. make it stop
minor gust
16 WS with full wipe lmao
Topping meters that's all that matters.
pulsar frost
16 WS with full wipe lmao
if beating the other 2 dps thats all the matters (besides timign the key ofc)
just timed my first 17 was fun, attempted the 18 was rough but fun, overtimed it by 2 mins or so
sand totem
Fuck timing the key. Its not enough that I succeed, others must fail.
A house built with no bricks, shall not stand.
pulsar frost
to a certain point and depending on what it is, id like to time my 17s for 3500 then idrc much
if its just like 15-16s, id agree, at long as i blow theo ther 2 dps out of the water im happy
rose matrix
It feels so bad doing no damage on ST
It's so bad I feel like I am being judged
Like why is the shit warrior doing as much as the tank on the boss
smoky kayak
if you're doing as much as the tank, you're doing something very wrong
hushed flower
I guess it's because if they buff our ST too much, we'll sweep it onto everything else and be doing too much dmg...
rose matrix
Does it matter tho
hushed flower
maybe to someone at blizzard 😄
viscid fossil
bringing bad dps leaves more dps for you
viscid fossil
It's so bad I feel like I am being judged
real
minor gust
Without a shaman I use the wowhead one. With the shaman I use this
languid torrent
yea i have a shaman for a few keys guildie
nova marsh
Guys
languid torrent
sending rn
nova marsh
Is the arms st just a way to get people to self report
vast helm
we fixed?
cedar cairn
Love how slayer feels just bummed about the reap change
uneven minnow
still stay st slayer spec for mythic chimaerus?
sand totem
Love how slayer feels just bummed about the reap change
I didnt think much of it, till I did 8k less than before on Heroic Vor. Every ability was the same, but 11kdps from reap down to 3k
I know its not huge, but I was malding trynna figure out what I did to lose like 12% dps till I compared my own logs lmao
minor gust
Slayer got overall buffed in ST with the patch
you didnt lose dmg
your reap number may be smaller but other areas got buffed for more than enough to compensate for it
minor gust
im talking ST
minor gust
yes aoe is down than before
sand totem
your reap number may be smaller but other areas got buffed for more than enough ...
My slam did not carry its weight in proccing deep wounds lmao.
minor gust
not every pull is the same you did less damage than last week because you played worse or got worse RNG. Not because reap is less of your overall
sand totem
I'm not saying I did worse strictly cause of lack of reap. But reap did substantially less damage, which is mean... it obvs would
sand totem
Lmao all Gucci dog, appreciate the insight regardless
sand totem
you know what after a reread I think I misunderstood what you were saying
Actually after rereading what I wrote, I also coulda been clearer lmao
urban fjord
resil 18 done fuck AA
raw atlas
resil 18 done fuck AA
Grats !
jovial hare
resil 18 done fuck AA
amen and gz
slender willow
So is colossus the new thing in ? M+ or is slayer still close enough that it wouldn't matter unless your pushing keys?
soft venture
Do any of yall who run slayer in m+ have streams or videos of the runs? Just would like to see where im going wrong lolol
mystic bronze
Do any of yall who run slayer in m+ have streams or videos of the runs? Just wou...
Critcake's 18 aa run is a good slayer run
gusty compass
\
wicked aurora
how scuffed am I?
soft venture
Critcake's 18 aa run is a good slayer run
Ahh gotcha I meant after the 12.0.5 nerfs sorry
mystic bronze
Ahh gotcha I meant after the 12.0.5 nerfs sorry
He'll probably post a video of a run soon, but you could also check his rio profile to see if he's got some vods of recent keys
nova marsh
how scuffed am I?
Key and level?
nova marsh
15aa slayer
For a scuffed key id say thats genuinely good
wicked aurora
Well I mean you do
near ice
lol
wicked aurora
gentle gyro
I just hate colossus so much
mystic bronze
It's so fun wdym
gentle gyro
Gl playing with a tank that pulls 3 mobs the entire dungeon
mystic bronze
Oh yes, then it's ass
nova marsh
Gl playing with a tank that pulls 3 mobs the entire dungeon
All dps is ass like that
wicked aurora
I will say while I enjoy Slayer, I feel like I have no burst when playing it
wicked aurora
like big pull I feel like I'm just eternally chilling ~300k
minor gust
indeed a slayer moment
you get some bumps with BS but your dmg comes from basically doing the same dmg every single pull
minor gust
bro got more SD procs than you
slow saddle
bro got more SD procs than you
Same number of procs 2m shorter fight?🤣
cedar cairn
Slayer just sends execute on proc or when over 80 rage right?
latent moss
i had
slow saddle
Are there more as fury?
latent moss
7 more sd
slow saddle
In 2m more min😅🤣
reef glade
would really like to see some deep wounds dmg next week
yea probably
I also got 4 pi’s so the pig behavior cancels itself out ig
minor gust
reef glade
yea I mean I hard focused ms on cd for demo cdr
latent moss
ye but cleave mega giga turbo fucks + fob 50% more damage slam cleaving for 100% dmg
latent moss
true...
slow saddle
Ikr!
muted herald
Hi folks, wanted to ask what's a good embellishment to add to the Blood Knight's Warblade?
mystic bronze
Hunt
viscid fossil
whatare you guys rougly simming for at 280ish for colo
viscid fossil
had typo meant what not why :F
mystic bronze
1 boss, 4 minutes & 10 bosses, 1 minute
viscid fossil
is this fully optimized arms gear
latent moss
1 boss, 4 minutes & 10 bosses, 1 minute
cheating with martial prowess overpwoering finish!!!!!!
mystic bronze
It's what I have, and I've followed a bis list and been watching at Biz a lot
viscid fossil
just asking bc i have full fury gear and its not looking great atm xd
latent moss
ST Colo build from biz
ye ik i was joking
viscid fossil
ah tbf its 5min
mystic bronze
knock it down to 4, see what it gives
latent moss
3 min is most realistic
mystic bronze
ye ik i was joking
fair enough xD
I'll try mine with 3 min as well then
That's not too bad
viscid fossil
thats cheating
mystic bronze
What is?
viscid fossil
adjusting sim parameters to improve the number
mystic bronze
He said 3min is more realistic, so I changed it to that
viscid fossil
so whats the play, craft a cloak and leave bloodknights warblade in bags for arms
mystic bronze
If bloodknight's warblade is the best weapon you have you use that
my mace is myth track
so I went with double arcanoweave embelishments
viscid fossil
yea garfrosts sims higher despite missing an embellisment for me
mystic bronze
It's a nutty mace
mystic bronze
Yeah, well, it is what it is. Warblade was my first craft but double arcanoweave + garfrost is better than warblade
What are your stat totals rn @viscid fossil ? Because if you're full fury geared you've got a boat load of mastery that would be better as crit and haste
viscid fossil
with garfrost and crit rings, everything else is mostly haste mastery gear
was just trying to find out if im griefing too much if i start practicing arms with fury gear + maybe im missing something with the crafted gear, im not used to that system
and im too poor to just yolo recraft lol
mystic bronze
pretty close to me then
my haste is higher than my crit in raw stat value, but flask pushes it back up over so recklesness still boosts crit
viscid fossil
does reck sim higher than lights for you
radiant moon
just feels kinda whack letting warblade rot
was good boost at the start of the season, arms cares a lot about raw weapon dps tho
mystic bronze
does reck sim higher than lights for you
This is 1 boss, 4 minutes, light's pot
Compared to the 77 that reck gave in my first ss
latent moss
sim droptimizer
viscid fossil
yeah.. ig i just craft cloak next week, dont wanna fuck over the fury gear too much just in case
latent moss
u prolly need a lot more crit
radiant moon
i for example am running this
cuz i really needed those secondaries i crafted neck
ill be removing it next week 😄
viscid fossil
droptimizier without premium is a bit shite hence i was asking for a quick evaluation haha but guess ill have to
bright ginkgo
unbuffed 🙂
viscid fossil
damn
latent moss
sim it
viscid fossil
but recraft will fix that and i have hero pit neck at least
not fix but improve
time to farm gold mao
hard dragon
This is 1 boss, 4 minutes, light's pot
I have like 2 ilvl less than you but I'm doing like 20k less dps wtf
viscid fossil
ok now post your stats
hard dragon
latent moss
hard dragon
I feel like I'm missing something
latent moss
holy i actually got no upgrades
viscid fossil
I feel like I'm missing something
that does sound like an error in the setup?!
oh wait he sims 3min
latent moss
for m+ sim
viscid fossil
and last screenshot was 4
hard dragon
that does sound like an error in the setup?!
Idk my dude just fucking sucks
hard dragon
I don't get what I'm doing wrong atp
viscid fossil
Idk my dude just fucking sucks
nah u prob sim default 5
hard dragon
Patchwerk 3 min light pot BL
latent moss
are u simming with no raidbuffs
viscid fossil
yeah this cant be right
hard dragon
Yeah, I don't sim with raid buffs
viscid fossil
lel
hard dragon
Maybe that's why lemme see
slow saddle
Patchwerk 3 min light pot BL
Warrior dmg sad
I post this on forums no context surely we get buffed
hard dragon
I'm really struggling to figure out why I'm not getting like 500k dps on lust pulls regularly
IT's not my rot
mystic bronze
sim it
I did, and I'm wearing the best gear I currently have access to, in both aoe and st scenarios. It tells me I should change my gems to crit + haste instead of haste + crit now that I'm using your 1/3 and 8/1 sims though
slow saddle
I'm really struggling to figure out why I'm not getting like 500k dps on lust pu...
Wrong class😅
hard dragon
No Col arms should be pulling 500k dps on lust pulls no?
hard dragon
Am I being gas lit rn?
latent moss
on aoe easily
hard dragon
I know it's a bit unfair to compare myself to goats but like
I thought that was normal
slow saddle
I presumed st
latent moss
u dont need lust to pull 500k on aoe
u can pull 500k on 3t in lust
xdddd
i burst for 500k on 2nd boss seat
maintain it for a bit
slow saddle
Well easiest way is, tankin being good
viscid fossil
i mean, popping cds on one pack isnt that hard to copy
the skill comes from overall
slow saddle
I hate the range of cleave ngl
hard dragon
Because I follow prio
viscid fossil
Because I follow prio
not trying to gaslight but you prob just do some mistakes
hard dragon
I do
slow saddle
Like seat 17 try yesterday i had a tank that never moved until all of packs died
Jkola most likely u arent hittin all mobs
viscid fossil
aka not really following prio
slow saddle
Positioning matters sooo much
torpid acorn
I dont know if this is public knowledge or not. but a friend of mine discovered that if he only presses Devour and Reap in meta, he never leaves meta. and does about 105-112k DPS unbuffed.
ive been watching him wack at a target dummy for 5 minutes now and its uncanny..
i cant reach that in a raid, full buffed.
slow saddle
I dont know if this is public knowledge or not. but a friend of mine discovered ...
Dh no broken gg
torpid acorn
proof of concept
he does not leave meta...
how is this buffed last patch
and warrior still in the gutter
silk spade
me when the new spec is strong (no one saw it coming)
untold pewter
and warrior still in the gutter
Our ret paladin and I completely crashed out mid pull yesterday when reclearing dragons because of this
We have 2 dh, adds spawned, got gripped I pressed warbreaker->demolish I'm not fucking memeing EVERY add died between the first and second demolish swings
untold pewter
I was like "this is bullshit" our ret paladin started screeching about it .1 second after lmao
torpid acorn
this is pure single target ofc.
but i just witnessed him wacking a target dummy for 11 minutes straight, never leaving meta. keeping 110k dps
wind hatch
Our ret paladin and I completely crashed out mid pull yesterday when reclearing ...
i like to send my warbreaker before the mass grip just to hit some of the orbs so I can guarantee my full demolish goes off and maybe get a couple of cleaves too
untold pewter
i like to send my warbreaker before the mass grip just to hit some of the orbs s...
I fucking gave up bro I'm playing it like a 2 target cleave fight
wind hatch
I fucking gave up bro I'm playing it like a 2 target cleave fight
lmao fair
wind hatch
i did the same.. couldnt even get close
yeah sadly arms just kinda gets dumpstered in st
torpid acorn
my fury is even worse!
hard dragon
untold pewter
how is this buffed last patch
gentle gyro
Well 3x
safe island
is there any diagram showing the range of cleave and demolish?
i feel like i need to know the exact range to position properly
radiant moon
aparently rep trink sims about as much dps as myth puzzle box
lucid niche
just had a cool interaction with demolish and gale surge ability on first boss skyreach
safe island
the hit ranges for cleave and demolish are confusing as hell i’ve just been winging it so far
forest dove
i feel like i need to know the exact range to position properly
I mean just go to a dummy and play around with the range. Probably would be worlds better than seeing like… a picture or whatever you’re asking for here
safe island
I mean just go to a dummy and play around with the range. Probably would be wor...
at least want to know what the shape of the range looks like
i think this is cleave
this is demolish? i guess
the problem is, it’s really hard to line it up against things like the magisters terrace jellyfish or vaelgor
i can’t tell whether cleave will actually hit or not
untold pewter
It's not a cone at all that's the problem
For the longest time I thought it was
But it can legit hit behind your character
From my testing it's an actual 10y radius around the target but it feels impossible to really determine the range sometimes
tawny thorn
WW maybe, no way cleave hit behind
tawny thorn
Ahaha alright, mabad then
untold pewter
Cleave is a cone yeah
untold pewter
this is demolish? i guess
Cleave is pretty much this yeah
It's quite wide
neon shale
Yeah positioning sucks sometimes depending on tank grouping
But maybe I suck too
Nah jk never
dim basalt
<@136186601092022273> time for you to catch up
Born to push, forced to Volksfest with guildies
dim basalt
Was fun tho
buoyant barn
So boyos
Either i commit to arms or fury
But i am not in love the bosses on arms
For the bosses*
copper cedar
is there a way to track rend on target ? the debuff
buoyant barn
Cooldown manager shows it
calm crane
it does under
buoyant barn
It does show duration too
calm crane
buffs
buoyant barn
Where can i have a guide for Arms in .5?
copper cedar
thanks !
buoyant barn
I'm doing my 15s rn but i feel like my boss dam is a shithole
flat willow
But i am not in love the bosses on arms
well the great news is that fury is garbage in single target too
so you can safely go arms
at least you'll have fun in aoe
flat willow
now I know damage to boss isn't the most accurate statistic
but it gives a vague idea of where you are standing
and by that I mean everyone is standing on fury's head
flat willow
in m+, you can go for the more single target colossus build
river tapir
Arms in m+ is slightly worse in ST but alot better in aoe, so no point to push as fury
dim basalt
^
river tapir
And in raid Arms has the better dmg Profile when it comes to the later bosses
dim basalt
Anything is viable but you will have the least headaches as col arms
fresh spire
fury st buffs when
you know fury bad when even archi is playing arms in everything :o7
mystic bronze
Why can't raidbots make up its mind about haste/crit or crit/haste gems >:|
buoyant barn
I'd say bc both are good?
mystic bronze
Like, for ST it tells me that crit/haste gems are best
For AoE it's Haste/crit
._.
Just gonna gear for st because that's where Colossus needs the most it can get
the aoe is solid regardless
zenith warren
how much sim dps did you guys gain when optimizing gear from fury to arms? my thane is like 2k ahead in st atm
clever crag
how much sim dps did you guys gain when optimizing gear from fury to arms? my th...
My arms is around 2k ahead
With most crit haste gear and proper gems /enchants
clever crag
you know fury bad when even archi is playing arms in everything :o7
Fury still has double the parses lol
fresh spire
Parses or not its st still stinks.
Fury has always been way more popular than arms. Arms could be ahead and more people would rather play fury as its simple and has the 2 sword fantasy
clever crag
Yeah thats true
mortal crag
in pure st we don't really care for martial prowess right?
(like we don play around it)
latent moss
huge
latent moss
anything but outlaw ✌️
mortal crag
assa is worse
outlaw can cancelaura
(zac does at least)
on bladeflurry
assa cant stop the funnel leech
its passive garrote/poisons
latent moss
ye
mortal crag
sub can just full send evisc/backstabs isntead of black powder
so we're gonna try some keyge today
rogue and druid finally kileld lura
mortal crag
so they'er free from 5day prison
latent moss
holy gaming
mortal crag
yh
meanwhile maybe we kill crown next week
we reached start of p3
@latent moss do wounds proc rage gen?
like if mobs have deep wounds etc on them
clever crag
Do you go full st send on myth Vorasius ?
mortal crag
but idk if im tripping cuz im used to the extra cleave lulw
mortal crag
Do you go full st send on myth Vorasius ?
i do cuz my guild r savages and i cba
i just kinda bladestorm adds if it lines up
clever crag
All top logs doo aswell
mortal crag
yeah i mean
ur not gonna hit the adds long enough
for u to cleav
cleave
so u can send bladestorm/colo on them
and maybe hit a couple of sweeps but thats it
mortal crag
yh
clever crag
At most get a bs in and a rend
mortal crag
i wouldnt even rend
the adds dont live long enough for rend damage to matter
id probs just colo bs and sweep mortal strike
ur sweep should be up in advance
since it lasts 30s
mortal crag
hate having to leave melee range
latent moss
ye
latent moss
imagine not being me
btw i did chim ye
mortal crag
BASED WORSTFERAL R1 LOG
latent moss
rolled like 80 on chest
flat willow
very good job, armsrework
mortal crag
latent moss
cant wait to get boots next week
flat willow
my little eye spies a frost death knight in for the love of the game
clever crag
My myth logs are fucking trash
latent moss
axaxaaxax
clever crag
Shoulda played fury
latent moss
fdk aint even bad
mortal crag
@latent moss wednesday sent rerolls:
chest (alrdy have) + cloak
got new rerolls yesterday:
helmet (yipeee i guess? but mine has socket so i need it at 289 to be a dmg gain) + cloak
🙂
4 rerolls = 0 useful
and now since i got 2 cloaks it confirms i can get the chest AGAIN from pit btw
mortal crag
so im calling
latent moss
and now since i got 2 cloaks it confirms i can get the chest AGAIN from pit btw
axaxxaax
flat willow
why 100, what an odd number
latent moss
how do i gear fast from fresh 90
latent moss
gg
flat willow
haven't done them but aren't those void invasions made to gear alts
latent moss
will try now
mortal crag
yy
mortal crag
truth nuke
flat willow
do you mean 20 yards on every ability
mortal crag
i think a better question is
latent moss
templar owns so hard
mortal crag
why is ret?
flat willow
I mean, the rets stole all our abilities, so it makes sense
mortal crag
make mortal strike hit for 5gajillion
zenith warren
for me fury should almost always be aoe/m+ go to spec but give arms great st and prio dmg with juicy heavy hitting ms
flat willow
hammer of light is just demolish but without the clunky parts
latent moss
truth nuke
mortal crag
just mogs cs+demo
i kinda disagree
i fuckin
love cs demo
my issue is just how
janky demo still feels
flat willow
I said it back in war within that demolish should replace c smash when ready just like hammer of light does
mortal crag
just make it full movement
or yeah make em the same
like make demo a talent that just builds csmash into it
flat willow
you can even keep the cdr, just like hammer of light
a bonus demolish cast every x stacks
that means once in a while you could do demolish, cs demolish again
mortal crag
truth
i still think
arms feels significantly better than fury this szn
which is sad cuz i love fury
flat willow
I think that's because fury is the biggest piece of shit this season
blizzard just took a dump on it for no reason
mortal crag
yeah they just shat on it
mortal crag
huh
flat willow
it's a small nerf, but it's a nerf on an already bad spec
thick kelp
flat willow
it's more like, fury gets nerfed while mostly everyone else gets buffed
so it's a double nerf
pale agate
flat willow
and by everyone else I mean unholy and devorer
flat willow
mortal crag
oh, so the question is How badly nerfed? I wanna try fury.
flat willow
before the patch every time you pressed bloodthirst you had 20% chance to proc reap the storm
now you only proc reap in ST with sudden death
thick kelp
yeah
mortal crag
cant imagine playing s1 tww arms
mortal crag
cant believe u went the better arms
thick kelp
what the
flat willow
yeah, why not pick cooler arms
fresh spire
👀
latent moss
real
sudden owl
weppy (neck)
wooden lava
we should be able to craft another piece this week right?
dreamy sandal
Guys, is it a bad idea to macro combat pot to colossus smash?
thick kelp
yes
fast plover
Guys, is it a bad idea to macro combat pot to colossus smash?
It's a 5 min cd, you can put it on a weird ass bind you'd never use otherwise
latent moss
surely 3.7 qualifies me for a 10
dreamy sandal
It's a 5 min cd, you can put it on a weird ass bind you'd never use otherwise
Yeah sure, just looking to see if people usually keep it seperate for different timings and so on
proper atlas
How much dos loss is the fervor bug
icy mulch
Did Slayer Arms get shot by the latest patch? Seems to be doing a noticable amount less.
thick kelp
Did Slayer Arms get shot by the latest patch? Seems to be doing a noticable amou...
yeah reaps gone from MS
thick kelp
How much dos loss is the fervor bug
a good chunk
proper atlas
Okay
icy mulch
Hmm, that sucks. Slayer was a lot of fun.
crimson cairn
a good chunk
i am guessing we still riding the bug wave?
thick kelp
@latent moss FUCK
icy mulch
Oof, reroll wasted
proper atlas
Nooo
latent moss
<@692035495718551564> FUCK
gg
slow saddle
Cant wait for next reset where i spend my bonus roll on gettin chest from chimeea
In time
U will get rewarded
Surely😅🤣
fresh spire
Tried to reroll my key for you too
i might have AA