arms

[astral yarrow]

more specifically the vault tokens

lets you buy an extra roll with 6 of them

[half prawn]

12.0.5// Slayer vs colossus ?

[full obsidian]

slayer for meh

[half prawn]

Is there a big difference in DPS?

Slayer win?

[paper dove]

slayer is far worse, at least in m+ content

[tough gulch]

And if you did it early this Week you get another 3 coins

[half prawn]

👍

[vapid goblet]

2 weekly coins and 1 from vault from picking the currency

[storm canopy]

So if you used coins in raid at Got something you already have? Do we get refund

[astral yarrow]

you wouldnt be able to, as you havent been able to bonus roll raid outside this week

the "no duplicates" only apply to bonus rolls

[pliant heath]

unless its a insane upgrade, wait till next week to increase chances of it being...."fixed"

[storm canopy]

I bonus rolled boots from Dream rift, that I already have from erlier

[astral yarrow]

yes, cause you havent bonus rolled them earlier

hence the "no duplicates" only applying to bonus rolls, not natural loot

[storm canopy]

Okay so No refund sadge

[astral yarrow]

no, cause that is the intended functionality i reckon

[spice epoch]

Colossus feels nice but slayer what did they do to it

[sleek pelican]

is colo competitive in raid thinking heroic lvl raids?

[astral yarrow]

anything is

[storm canopy]

Misread this

[astral yarrow]

If you spent the coins within the first 2 days, you should receive 2 new ones regardless of whether or not you were victim of the actual bug

cause blizz doesnt want to go through and check who got duplicates in m+ vs who just rolled their coins in raid

[sleek pelican]

oh nice, thanks! 😄

[storm canopy]

Okay then i should get refund! Thanks man

[astral yarrow]

although keep in mind that they reset the duplicate thing. So if you hit boots off chimaerus, you can do it again next time

[storm canopy]

Ye I hope im more lucky next time 😂

[full obsidian]

second roll first one was so ded

[slender sonnet]

goddamn

[full obsidian]

goddamn indeed

[simple lintel]

Best item from vault is Myth chest. It's an upgrade no questions asked.

But hear me out.

I am not mythic raiding. So I will be spending my bonusrolls in Pit of Saron, I need

Weapon, Neck, Ring, Waist, Chest.

Am I crazy for thinking - Instead of grabbing chest from vault, I'll pick tokens and trade them for another bonusroll.

That way I have 3 bonus rolls, and since there is a Chest to be had from Pit of Saron, I could be "refunded" the tokens, with the added benefit of excluding the chest from the loot pool.

[honest seal]

Slayer or clossus for m+ now

[full obsidian]

id do dat personally since itll drop everything u need realistically

[neon shale]

Depends if the bug was already fixed cause the blue post says “tokens spent during bug”

[tiny prawn]

Hey guys, dumb question of the day, but for people playing in raids and M+, did you 100% commit to arms or Fury, or are you trying to kinda do both in terms of enchants, stats etc ?

[kind stag]

many do both

and you can do both in raids kinda

[full obsidian]

i went into arms and kinda into fury but not much most of my stats are arms

[kind stag]

you are shite regardless

[full obsidian]

exactly

so do what ye want

[tiny prawn]

Ahah

[neon shale]

Dam right

No one will notice what type of brown u are

[kind stag]

lot of warrior dps mains on bench rn

[neon shale]

Still brown

[tiny prawn]

Yeah, to be fair i'm still not sure about which enchant i should put on my weapon, i feel like Berserker's rage is the only one that works well for arms AND fury

[kind stag]

sim

sim all enchants esp now with ring enchant buffed

[full obsidian]

hmm

seems like the pit cloak will force me to craft boots according to sims

man

i really need a new trinket

[lusty creek]

can someone explain this to me? do i have to use all the two charges of OP before execute even when i'm rage capped? (slayer ST execute phase)

[austere solar]

I would say, just monitor exec precision for your 2 stacks. Just let OP stacks be what they will be as you hit MS. But the point is to not overcap EP waiting for op.

I might be wrong, but it is how i play it

[tiny prawn]

Thanks for the input guys ! One last question : Dungeon Slice is the way to go to sim in 14+ mythic+ situations ?

[kind stag]

no dungeon slice is not good

[tiny prawn]

Argh

[astral yarrow]

Deswind who does most of the work on dungeon slice (psycho) isnt playing warrior, so it isnt looked at if at all

[bright grove]

raidbots should just straight up remove dungeon slice option lmao

[lusty creek]

yeah this is what i do as well, 2 exec and MS, but sometimes overpower stays there a lot, i only use it in situations where i need rage. but here it is prioritized before execute

[astral yarrow]

its a useful option when the APL for it is optimized

[neon shale]

Will John Blizzard ignore warriors bug forever

Place ur bets

[kind stag]

yes considering we probably arent even acknowledged

[dim basalt]

With how our aoe works we wouldn't gain a lot of knowledge off dungeon slice I think

[kind stag]

warrior players dont buy enough store mounts

[vast helm]

blue post for bugs fixed and buffs later today for sure right?

[shut token]

does haste have a big impact on rage generation?

[dim basalt]

No haste is net neutral

[astral yarrow]

yes, but it also speeds up expenditure

[hasty pumice]

Yo catch up brother

[dim basalt]

Im gone the entire weekend meeting up with my guild

🙁

[hasty pumice]

I don't think we're allowed to be mad when rogue bugs are through the roof and ours usually get fixed semi fast

[dim basalt]

Didn't get to play much all week

Sadge

You blasted a ton tho

[kind stag]

rogue is the corpse at the bottom of the ocean

[hasty pumice]

Consistency pays off

[hasty pumice]

True and real

We have one minor bug that slam doesn't cast deep wounds in funnel

[kind stag]

but yes we are allowed to be mad considering people reported bugs in PTR

[hasty pumice]

Rogue has to pay 30 energy for a passive cause it has the same spell ID as an active spell

[dim basalt]

Lmao

[kind stag]

good QA

[hasty pumice]

Youre good QA

I love the new heroic strike animation btw

[kind stag]

its good yes

[hasty pumice]

Human crit animation on heroic strike is so fitting rather than the standard execute animation

I love seeing my char jump up and slam down

[formal vault]

guys this is my top dps single target.....

with the colossus spec... its insane how shitty it is

i mean... im literally i nerf in the single encounter

[hasty pumice]

The trick is funnel

[formal vault]

with fury i end dungeon as 170k dps and its still shit for me

[hasty pumice]

With funnel your ST is insane

[formal vault]

so i dont even understand how this is possible

yes, but i just pug my friend

[hasty pumice]

So do I

And arms is 100% the better spec

[latent moss]

lock in

[slow saddle]

Seems ok

[formal vault]

well u probably do that with good tanks XDD

[latent moss]

wrong build

[formal vault]

is for mythic+

this is wrong?

[hasty pumice]

Yesterday I plugged with taraskbrew, THAT was a good tank but

During +19s there were some shitters

[slow saddle]

Nah

[latent moss]

drop mass exec and powerful momentum for overpowering finish and martial prowess

[hasty pumice]

I don't necessarily tank with food tanks

Good*

[formal vault]

no i just do 16/17

[wide apex]

I mean the websites that people go to for seeing whats meta has arms in the highest tier. what would be the issue with pugging?

[formal vault]

but i mean, its still shit from my prespective

[latent moss]

u need

[hasty pumice]

Good day sir arms warrior2 of the colossus tribe

[latent moss]

ur tank to route around you

[formal vault]

kk sec

[latent moss]

good day doctor

nice copy

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1117491018523226282/1496867942787186729/image.png?ex=69ec1b28&is=69eac9a8&hm=77dbc90165455d65ca80c53c02429ab52f9ee9bca18c3d31527a2c84f60d2f3d&

class tree is up to you

[hasty pumice]

How are thou feeling today? I do dare to say I wisheth thine emotion to be sublime at this hour

[wide apex]

movespeed for more dmg

[wide apex]

whats the ST gain

[slow saddle]

Enuff

[latent moss]

idk exactly saw biz playing it and i tried it

doing a lot more

[wide apex]

ok lol

[latent moss]

idk if its placebo maybe i was lucky

maybe i high rolled every single boss idk i did like 2 keys with it

[slow saddle]

Id say its deffo the play in pugs

Where funnel on bosses are rare

[hasty pumice]

But like what's the aoe loss? No cleave execute is rough

[latent moss]

mass exec is actually

overrated as fuck

[hasty pumice]

And in higher keys usually the packs are the hardest part of the dungeon

[latent moss]

its one of hte first aoe points u drop for more st

[slow saddle]

Nah

[hasty pumice]

Like the academy bosses are pretty whatever, the packs usually kill every run

Wdym nah

I'm pugging 20s

[slow saddle]

Keep in mind those talents increase funnel

[latent moss]

ye but u need time

[slow saddle]

And st dmg

On packs

[wide apex]

academy had the vast majority of arms warriors play slayer previously

[latent moss]

u waste a ton of time on shit like crawth

[wide apex]

for ST I assume

[slow saddle]

I think bis said like 5% st for lile 1% aoe

[hasty pumice]

I'm aware you need ST as well but it's highly comp dependant

[latent moss]

last boss is like 10 hours if u have an arms warrior

[slow saddle]

But it is veery dungeon dependant

[hasty pumice]

That's why I'm asking what's the ST gain and aoe loss from those talents

[latent moss]

of aa

ion know exactly but i hate doing bad st so im playing it

slayer just sucks to play now all of a sudden idk maybe i was unlucky

but reap like never procs

and bs is all my aoe

[slow saddle]

Realisticly though when are an entire pack alive, when mass kicks in?

Arent we there prim to kill prio target anyways

[clever crag]

Arent we bugged rn ?

[latent moss]

only slam mortal wounda with fob

[hasty pumice]

Can you SIM the difference between 1 and 8 targets quickly? I'm stuck at work and really curious

It might also depend on comp context what to pick, idk. Maybe biz was also just fucking around cause why not

Ah here

**COLOSSUS M+ BUILD WITH MORE ST ** (Work in progress, trying it today see if I like it)
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Build I'm trying out to day, was seeing if I could get some more ST
Timed AA with it and was kinda surprised by the ST gains
This build is 3% more ST with 1.5% less AoE, kinda worth the tradeoff
Clip talking about it:
https://www.twitch.tv/bizentein/clip/OnerousStrongTortoiseFunRun-Di9DCzMcgpc0nLgT

Quoted from him

[latent moss]

ye

probably not worth in something like seat

[hasty pumice]

+3% ST, -1.5% aoe

Yeah I think it's context dependant

I don't think you should blindly do this

For AA probably worth

[latent moss]

mass exec and powerful momentu arr massive on 2nd

[hasty pumice]

Many prio targets and ST bosses

[latent moss]

y

def worth in aa

bosses take forever and timer is mega tight

[wide apex]

mass executioner value is hard to sim for. have to sim really short pulls

[latent moss]

especially if u dont have aug and cant pull on top of miniboss

[wide apex]

like a 3 minute sim without lust and its like -5.2% aoe

but obviously that has the mobs in mass executioner for a third of the time

[slow saddle]

He said anothrr 3% st for 1.5% aoe loss

[latent moss]

i mean yeah but the question is how much timer will that save

[slow saddle]

Accordin 2 sim

Dno what he simmed though

[dense sphinx]

biz did make a video on it

and said it was just for AA

[wide apex]

but yeah 3% st on a single guy isn't going to make the difference most likely.

do whatever u like type shit

[slow saddle]

Y it does

[latent moss]

i mean in aa u prolly wanna take as much st as possible

[slow saddle]

Ngl feels like more

[hasty pumice]

Yeah also highly depends how valuable that talent is how your group comp looks

[clever crag]

Guy will do 90k where we will do 70 or less

[hasty pumice]

The more ST others bring with less aoe the better it becomes

If you have assa rogue and feral druid for example

Packs often get deleted

So it falls off a bit

[slow saddle]

Or ret?

[hasty pumice]

Yeah Ret fucks packs

[slow saddle]

Or uhdk? Or lock

[latent moss]

and bosses

[hasty pumice]

I had a nexus 19 with Ret and sub rogue

[latent moss]

ret fucks everything

[hasty pumice]

Unholy DK often feels like he doesn't do that much when he's off CDs

[latent moss]

ye dk without army

[slow saddle]

True

[formal vault]

its insane

[latent moss]

is not a spec

[hasty pumice]

I hate having Ret being strong cause of the class discord shit

[formal vault]

dh 100k

[hasty pumice]

I don't want them to be good haha

[formal vault]

and i do 65/70

[slow saddle]

Dh st is stupid

[formal vault]

st its so shitty that wanna me puck

and 85k with fury

[slow saddle]

So is wsrlock

[formal vault]

still shit

[latent moss]

try the build above

[formal vault]

ye he's doing like 125k 130k

[latent moss]

depends on key but in pugs prolly always worth to take

[hasty pumice]

I think the ST variant can definitely shine in many dungeons but

[latent moss]

unless ure pugging 20s and tanks know u funnel like crazy

[hasty pumice]

So many dungeons have been warped around to have some form of funnel now

[latent moss]

ye

[slow saddle]

Y 100% in team ita prob only play in aa

[fresh spire]

I'm more scared blizzard in 1.0 will over nerf cleave to point we have a little more st but our aoe just hard crashes

And arms will feel worthless again

[hasty pumice]

Seat first boss you have a million tiny shits that you pull while kiting the boss around to avoid all blobs

Skyreach you pull 3 birds to first boss and all the birds to 2nd boss

[slow saddle]

Havent tried yet🤣, need higher keys

[hasty pumice]

Dude not playing a single blob is so fun

[latent moss]

so far id say they have been kinda careful

with cleave tuning

[hasty pumice]

2nd MC boss with infinite reanimated warriors

1st MC boss with bears

[slow saddle]

Y never happens

[hasty pumice]

Like tanks are starting to include a ton of funnel somehow

[slow saddle]

In pug

[latent moss]

ye skyreach u can funnel on all except 3rd

[slow saddle]

3rd has a birdie

Needs 2 die

[hasty pumice]

3rd is fine tho

[latent moss]

yeye

[hasty pumice]

Just CS + demo whenever birb spawns

I usually end at 80-100k there

[slow saddle]

And u get infinite stacks

[hasty pumice]

The boss is still 0 fun tho

It's just bleh

[latent moss]

skyreach is just boring idk

[hasty pumice]

For us

[slow saddle]

99% certain once we loose our 4p

[latent moss]

at least its fast

[slow saddle]

Arms is dead

[hasty pumice]

Healers shit there pants there probably

[latent moss]

last boss has powerful reflect tech

[hasty pumice]

Bro we don't need to start dooming about the next season

[slow saddle]

Might as well

[latent moss]

ye we need this set

[slow saddle]

I love raidin the most

🤣

[latent moss]

as talent or 4th apex

fuck heroic might genuinely

even more dps loss if u cant pull fast

[hasty pumice]

Surely they'd never balance change things

[slow saddle]

Kek

[hasty pumice]

Fury got its last set bonus basically integrated now

[slow saddle]

So far the gap in st

[formal vault]

the problem is the disparity of classes

[slow saddle]

Had never been better

[formal vault]

i mean, we need to do crazy circus stuff to get some dps

[hasty pumice]

Ye but I don't trust people

[formal vault]

and still wlc and that shitty dh do that without problems

[hasty pumice]

Maybe in +20 pugs I should

[formal vault]

and if a bad tank try it, he die like a little shet

[hasty pumice]

But in seat +18 a tank screamed at me for not trusting him to do spell reflect 3rd boss

[formal vault]

so... the point is, why soo much difference between classes..

[latent moss]

ye should communicate it with the tank before key

[hasty pumice]

I saw critcake doing it and was like nah I won't trust a random dude with that, boss chased him for multiple seconds

If it was somebody like taraskbrew from yday and he told me that

I do it

But not a random

[latent moss]

i wouldnt do it without dbts

[hasty pumice]

Dbts?

[latent moss]

ye so if u get meleed

u dont explode

[hasty pumice]

oh

The Def cd

I thought it's a weird abbreviation

[latent moss]

die by the sword

[hasty pumice]

Ye

I usually just call it 30% cd

[formal vault]

thats op in pit

with double boss, there we shine XDD

[buoyant barn]

How much of a dmg loss is no skyfury for arms in M+?

[fresh spire]

I rather cleave fucks and dn doesn't. But same time I hate the amount of raw support cleave needs

[slow saddle]

A lot

[slow saddle]

I want dn // op fucks

As it translates to st

[fresh spire]

Ravager/me/cm/fob/mw/colat/reap

[slow saddle]

Where cleave just is forgotten

[latent moss]

ye classic arms

9 aoe talents

[fresh spire]

Hopefully 3 of these die in 1m0

[latent moss]

👍

[fresh spire]

Ravager. Mass exe. Die asap

Replace mass execute with mass execute

Makes execute hit 5 targets.

[formal vault]

from what i have seen the ceiling of fury is very lo

low

[latent moss]

man i wish

slayer didnt play cleave

instead did its aoe through sd reap and aoe executes

and dn

[slow saddle]

Idm playin cleave

[formal vault]

and if u have a good party arms is better, but as a pug with "normal" people is way harder because too low st

[hasty pumice]

Imagine old whirlwind, you press it for a massive aoe

I'd love that ngl

[fresh spire]

Tbf they could easily shoot reap and rework it into aoe execute. But fury loses out

[latent moss]

make fury with iww

uncapped

[hasty pumice]

Slayer arms being like whirlwind every few seconds but it fucks

[latent moss]

sd with iww = uncapped

[hasty pumice]

What

[latent moss]

would own hard

[formal vault]

?

[hasty pumice]

Why are we taking about fury now

[latent moss]

replace reap with prots heavy handed but 5t

[formal vault]

no just making a comparission

i tried both

just for the sake of

both with good gear

i dont like fury as usual

always played arms

but the point is, without any effort u hit 85k st

[latent moss]

since fury gains nothing either make it 100% with iww or uncapped

[formal vault]

is there a new graphic for dmg m+ for classes?

i want to see XDD fury and arms standpoint lol

fury imo is in the last 3 places

or 4

[hasty pumice]

Arms does great

[latent moss]

arms is at the top

[slow saddle]

Fury is fine

[formal vault]

so we are cleave minions

[slow saddle]

In m+

[formal vault]

ye, but as i said, is behind so many classes

[slow saddle]

Watch noxxiz or wtf he is called

[formal vault]

dunno if its worth gettin to be fair if u can get 1 dh

XDDD

[slow saddle]

Its not so far behind

[hasty pumice]

No but not everybody plays caster comps

[formal vault]

already watched noxxiz

[slow saddle]

Keep in mind ap buff is big

[hasty pumice]

There's a lot of people who like to play their classes

[slow saddle]

For party

[formal vault]

his dmg obv is better then mine

but not soo much

[hasty pumice]

In Phys comps you can't go without arms atm

[formal vault]

thats the point, this is my first season playing pve

[hasty pumice]

We are essential for any physical comp

[slow saddle]

Or fury😅🤣

[formal vault]

when i see arms warrior i see big difference between me and them

[hasty pumice]

Good one

[slow saddle]

I mean its possible

Thane isnt to bad

[hasty pumice]

Yeah you'll see fury for break the meta prolly

[slow saddle]

Y

Where i played arms last season

So only fair

[formal vault]

and i dont know what u think

but i have big problem with pugs for cds with arms

[slow saddle]

?

[formal vault]

because sometimes (in truth always) the tank pull at random even in 16+/17+

[slow saddle]

I just send em

And pray

[formal vault]

and if u pull 3 mobs well

[slow saddle]

Comes back so fast

[formal vault]

its all for nothing after that he get 20 mobs...

i mean, it make no f sense..

[gentle gyro]

I miss the good old days..

[formal vault]

XDDD

in this patch they reworked something for subtley too right?

[hasty pumice]

DW people still act like it is like that atm

[formal vault]

well for normal ST it is XDD

[gentle gyro]

It's not incredible either

[formal vault]

and if we take for exemple raid

[gentle gyro]

I just wanted 1 good Slayer season

[formal vault]

there is no warrior in the first 100

even in lightbringer XDDDDD

[slow saddle]

In raid

[formal vault]

and thats insane as f

[gentle gyro]

I don't raid, no time

[formal vault]

ye me too still

[slow saddle]

100% this season woulsda been had we had the tuning of tww

[formal vault]

its insane XDD

[slow saddle]

If we were great st fr we would fuck in raid

[stoic oyster]

slayer arms was the highest boss damage spec during TTW s1 iirc

[slow saddle]

Yup if we were thst in this cleave tier

Jesus we would slap😅

Instead we got the 25% warrior tax

[gentle gyro]

I hope that good hero talent related tierset bonuses make a comeback

[stoic oyster]

just catching strays

[gentle gyro]

This stuff aint it

[formal vault]

a question for my fellow warriors, i have champions trinkets, it would make a huge difference with a mythic 1?

i mean, yesterday i lost 1 gaze with 100 roll...

[stoic oyster]

absolutely

[formal vault]

tie and randomly got smacked in the face

never been so salty in a while to be honest

[formal vault]

mhm, i will sim then, to see how much difference it makes

[neon shale]

What’s the name of our personal food?

[flint cloud]

royal roast

[slow saddle]

Our tier set is pretty fuckin great

[formal vault]

what is bugging me is the fact that they pow that fk DH

its insane of piece of sh they are

[slow saddle]

Ofc

[stoic oyster]

i use this too if not pushing

they likea gold each

[slow saddle]

I use the 59 crit one

They are cheap

[stoic oyster]

whats that one called?

[formal vault]

3k dps

well, good but not enough to became a decent ST XDDD

[slow saddle]

I mean its ok

[formal vault]

so with pratically top gear at 283 i still do shit

[slow saddle]

I keep up with most m+ specs not meta

[formal vault]

how about DH and LOCK? XDD

because it seems like they are adults and im a little kid

[slow saddle]

My point exactly

Cant compare 2 outliers

[formal vault]

to be fair in the end we finish similar but just because they die and i dont

XDD

[slow saddle]

Also dont they burst a lot

Where as we sustain more

And of u go look at every prio mob per pack

[formal vault]

mhm the problem is we have very little utility

[slow saddle]

Thats the interresting psrt

[formal vault]

shout and def stance for mechanics

[slow saddle]

Battleshoit

Sr

Great stun

Fear removal

[formal vault]

ye still people complain

[slow saddle]

Slow

Nah ppl are dumbassws

[formal vault]

true

[slow saddle]

Its all bout dmg

[latent moss]

not even remotely true

[slow saddle]

Rally also decent

[latent moss]

infinite stops

group defensive

insanely tanky

its nonsense how many defensives we've got

[stoic oyster]

range gets annoying in m+ when shts moving around and there are circles everywhere

[neon shale]

Cool thx

[neon shale]

🐐

[latent moss]

true

[slow saddle]

Y arms havin mid st

Is tbh prob fair

And arms is prob meta

In phys comp

Casters just overtuned this tier

[pulsar pivot]

Do we know how much extra dmg an arms warrior gains from skyfury?

[slow saddle]

A lot

[stoic oyster]

a loot

[pulsar pivot]

two or three lots?

[stoic oyster]

if you are able to group with a shammy and monk you are golden

[latent moss]

arms is 100000% meta in phys comp

and phys comp is insane

[maiden apex]

My issue is more that they designed a whole raid almost around being bursty and that makes warrior feel pretty darn terrible while also having low ST. In M+ I agree with you though

[pulsar pivot]

KInda hard to find a physcomp in groupfinder though

[latent moss]

the issue is that devourer exists

they press collapsing star and all pad is gone

funny how fury got shot for this in s1 tew

tww

and mm got shot now

[flat willow]

Shot 5 times

[latent moss]

ye mm got shot once but by a nuke

[flat willow]

Alongside arms

[latent moss]

arms was just chilling catching strays

classic

[flat willow]

Cuz they were too lazy to nerf one hero spec without nerfing the other

[stoic oyster]

catching strays

[tulip gust]

Hey guys, any tech to not have awful down time on fixate phase of Ick & Krick in Pit?

[flat willow]

Ask for a prot, die by the sword

[brisk frigate]

сan somebody explain what happened to arms exactly? just bug with Deep Wounds (Mortal Wounds) for slayer m+ build or we are experiencing this bug + nerf?

[tulip gust]

DBTS, backpedal to parry reliably?

[latent moss]

yes

[tulip gust]

Ty

[slow saddle]

I mean

Our tuning in fuckin criminal

Fr

Idc burst not burst

[thick sierra]

Low key give demolish a 1000000% dmg buff

Thoughts ?

[slow saddle]

We should sim within 5% of uhdk

Prob more

As bursty should not be top as well

Its 2 good a profile

[thick sierra]

Make demolish do 1gagillion dmg

[slow saddle]

Only 2 first swings then

[thick sierra]

Or just add a buff to it where “does % more dmg when hitting 1 target”

Nah the BIG one needs to feel MORE powerful IMO

[slow saddle]

Nah

Thats aoe

And imp 2 tune then

[thick sierra]

I need absolute cranked big boom at the end

[slow saddle]

I miss big boom as well

But tuning it 2 be insane in st and not mad in aoe....

[thick sierra]

Idrm which way it’s tuned thematically I just think the big blast at the end you channel for should do a lot of dmg

But yah give arms 15% aura buff and MEGA

Make execute great again

[stoic oyster]

bring condemn back

[flint cloud]

I guess they don’t give a f about tuning since they have to make the voidcore works the right way Lmao.

[fresh spire]

Unholy dk sims 120k but it's bugged like 40%

[ionic mica]

the issue is they would say that before the bugs as well xD

same as mm and locks

[rain thistle]

Yeah a lot of class issues this patch needed or still need a little love before they determine more tuning I would say

[latent moss]

mm got giga shot

[ionic mica]

oh i know

but i meant they would all claim their damage was due to bugs and so its totally fine whilst doing 20% more damage than everyone else

like i find it hard to believe anything they say

[fresh spire]

Mm legit fuckdd up

[cold kestrel]

guys, quick question, in a pull we send demolish at 5 stacks or 10 stacks?

[stoic oyster]

press ms once then send

[cold kestrel]

we don't farm colossus might stacks before sending it at pull anymore?

[oak flame]

Hey guys i would love to make a macro for stormbolt which cancelaura bladestorm only if i'm in colosus specialization. Is it possible ?

[ionic mica]

you cant cancel bladestorm

[late lantern]

Does colossus smash still count towards Demolish if it runs out half way through the channel?

[oak flame]

Why do you say so ?

[ionic mica]

blizzard stopped it being a thing a couple of expansions ago

[lyric flame]

this may be a really stupid question but ive only just thought of it, do you use your 3 free cleaves after cs on pure st?

[dusk pewter]

hi, quick question, do we just send demolish now on cd and not wait for colossus smash anymore ?

[ionic mica]

no they still cost rage they are just no cd

cleave isnt a thing on ST after 12.0.5

[lyric flame]

ok ty

[olive nest]

@minor gust curious what kind of dps are you averaging on paladins?

[ionic mica]

the answer is basically w/e you want

feels nice to send on cd, in aoe it will be back for your next CS anyway

but if you want to hold to cd > demo > cleave every time then that is fine as well

[mortal rivet]

Thats cool

[ionic mica]

from the couple of pits i did on wednesday it felt totally fine to send on cd, get some double demo is cs if you get good MS crits, always have it back anyway so send big booms

[slow saddle]

hmm

bug fixxxed yet ?

we need to be like UHDK Discord

[fresh spire]

Fixed

-the bug is not fixed yet-

[slow saddle]

has the bug been noticed 😄 i guess is the Q

keep in mind UHDK discord

[late lantern]

what bug?

[slow saddle]

<-- BugHOLY 15m slow time to write

😄

[ionic mica]

it feels like the level of bug that could never be fixed

like they might never notice enough to bother

[slow saddle]

tbh worse than shittin down

i mean they fixxed hs procs from it

[ionic mica]

apex talent not working is a lot bigger than a bleed from a crit

id like them to fix it ofc

but there are so many bugs that exist for multiple expansions on all sorts of specs

wouldnt surprise me if it just sits there

[slow saddle]

it was the same issue though

something not proccin from fob

so id dare say it should be fixxable

[ionic mica]

oh it is very fixable

but i think it was the apex side of it that got eyes on that

its probably just the amped fob slam is a differnent spell id than the normal one, and they only put deep wounds on the normal id

or something like that

they love forgetting those

[slow saddle]

smells like it y

[sick mesa]

Hey, I’m re killing Myth Vanguards this week and am not sure how the changes are affecting cleave and slam prio in a 2-target scenario? Can someone let me know if I have to cleave or slam when only 2 palas are around?

[hasty pumice]

Psure you only cleave in 2 targets whenever you don't have sweeps up

[vast helm]

Fixed
-the bug is not fixed yet-

[spark mango]

idk why the fuck the new reap doesnt affect whirlwind

if i want to get fervor of battle to consume my heroic strike in aoe with raid build i want to be able to proc reap the storm aswell

just put cooldown on whirlwind, damn

[fresh spire]

If your taking fevour your likely using cleave aswell

[spark mango]

on some fights i like to have fervor with powerful momentum, like salhadar or first boss

there is no reap aside from sudden death for st arms build rn

and thats super rng, you might not have it when adds are up

[slow saddle]

i mean

[fresh spire]

Don't think it's worth for saladbar. Let other classes pad the small orbs. Hit boss and big orbs

[slow saddle]

just give more power to dreadnaught

is what we lack

we HAD that

[fresh spire]

The specs issue is we got like 9 are talents and we have to pick up way more on average than other classes for the aoe they gain. Be more annoyed at that than dn doing less damage

[spark mango]

bloodbrone, what a joke

[slow saddle]

we just need way more ST

to start with

like if we simmed 120k

in full st

[steep escarp]

It’s not happening this patch. Best we can hope for is better balancing in 12.1.

Tuning is whack this patch across the board.

[flat willow]

Or worse balancing

[fresh spire]

I mean we're missing of the pack where it's fine to be. St issues stem in keys because of the fact we have to drop so much talents to pick up aoe

Middle*

[flat willow]

Heh, even in full single target build arms is garbage

[steep escarp]

Our damage profile on ST ain’t great until execute phase

[fresh spire]

Middle of pack is still better than last.

[flat willow]

You can go slayer full St and still do 20 k less than unholy

[fresh spire]

Could be dk rn or hunter sucking mundo ass burgers

[flat willow]

And unholy is missing 15 % damage

Dk is bugged to ass and still does more st than us

[fresh spire]

From what ive been told dk is missing 32% damage

[steep escarp]

I haven’t even logged into my DK this week once I heard that

[fresh spire]

[steep escarp]

I was also a San’Layn enjoyer and they took it out back.

[spark mango]

dude overpower giving some rage in execute should be baseline of the ability

[fresh spire]

Rage shouldn't have been nerfed on melee swing this expansion

[storm canopy]

What is our Max sim? Full bis

[spark mango]

and haste has gone to demolish and bladestorm, so you can easily warbreaker and be oom

[dim basalt]

Haste doesn't really affect rage

You gain faster but also spend faster

[vast helm]

save Arms.

[slow saddle]

with current rage levels it should just GIVE rage tbh

that way we had something to press at times when we low

would also mean rotaion could revolve around maintaining it somehow

atm its silly

[steep escarp]

That would make OP not proccing feel worse

[slow saddle]

not rly

it would make u play different

atm u send 2 x op if u can

the nu would prob just op once- slam slam ms if no proc u have an OP rdy

that way we play more around rage

[steep escarp]

I guess for slayer it wouldn’t be bad yeah. I’ve got colossus on my brain

[slow saddle]

nono for collosus it would be the same

also u arent starved as collosus

[full obsidian]

so now that fob is bugged

[slow saddle]

it still fobs big time

[full obsidian]

do we replace it at all?

[slow saddle]

no nothing

[olive nest]

Play normally

[full obsidian]

fairs fairs

[slow saddle]

play normally some time next week hopefully

u will just do more dmg

[finite nacelle]

chad collossus players vs virgin slayer players

[full obsidian]

oi

[slow saddle]

i mean only change i guess is

[olive nest]

The only bug is that you’re not applying deep wounds with slams from fob

[full obsidian]

leave us alone

[slow saddle]

u Cleave before u CS

[olive nest]

Not ideal but doesn’t change gameplay

[slow saddle]

cs resets cleave atm. so might be worth to send one dno

[olive nest]

Do you guys know how to tell which stat reck pot is giving you on wcl?

[mortal crag]

Ye but giant dps loss sadly

https://klipy.com/gifs/eta-2--k01KPXVV6T36B5X61HE8HGFHR5G

GG

[olive nest]

Is it tho

[mortal crag]

Was reported to be like 5.5% lmao

[olive nest]

Yikes that’s rough

[mortal crag]

Yeeeeep

Basically 6%

And 6% is on the upper half between 1 and 10

So it's basically 10%

Yk?

Anyways buff devourer dhs

[olive nest]

🤣

[languid crescent]

I know slayer is behind Collo in m+, but how much behind are we talking about 10%, 30%?

[finite nacelle]

is arms warrior the most chad way to play the game?

(yes)\

[vast helm]

If you're not afraid of high blood pressure.

[shut token]

what is recommended average dps for magisters terrace +9 ( whole dungeon overall dps?)

[hollow quail]

300k

[dim basalt]

About 30% per sims, realistically probably 20%

[soft peak]

Arms is really fun

Big damage with aoe and im ilv 251, but st sucks ass

[untold trench]

1.7m total, divided by the sum of T-21, multiplied with the angst of 1

[inner wasp]

multiplying by 1 does nothing, fool

[olive nest]

😂

[vast helm]

our Aoe burst was pretty strong , almost close to T0 but ST was shit , but now our Aoe is kinda just ok , and ST just a little bit ok.

[cedar cairn]

Finally feeling like I’m pumping at 274 with my stats dialed in

[soft peak]

Its nice

But st at low ilv its very bad

But aoe i burst a lot

[flat willow]

don't worry

[soft peak]

And the m+ seems more easier than tww

[flat willow]

st at high ilvl is still very bad

[soft peak]

10s are easy af

[cedar cairn]

Still so sad about the reap changes

[rose matrix]

You'd think the good AoE that Colossus has would be a reasonable trade off for its ST but then you look at other specs

[soft peak]

Everytime is the same

War getting nerfed

And other specs that are already op are buffed

But i never really cared, i played war all my life

[minor gust]

On our kill this week was around 180-190

[olive nest]

Yeah I’m just not playing it consistently well then

My damage starts to tank around 4:30 usually around 200k until then

Sometimes higher

I did have a good pull where I was cranking all the way until the end, like 185k ish but we wiped at 2% ofc..

[ashen trout]

so we dont cleave at all in 2t anymore? not with 3 stacks of CD?

[olive nest]

I don’t see why it would have changed you still want to cleave at 3 stacks of cd

Just prio MS and sudden death above it

[ashen trout]

kk dope, ty gamer

[olive nest]

Also HS too

[sacred zodiac]

thats very low considering fury sims like 90k single target

off by a couple orders of magnitude

[dense hound]

how is arms for raid after the update?

[ashen trout]

dope tyvm

[olive nest]

Arms always owns

[sacred zodiac]

if your raid plays optimal comps you're still not brought, if you aren't then its kinda fine

[slow saddle]

Must be tanks fault

[minor gust]

Considering only one person has broken 200k this week and most ppl are in the 180s and 190s I wouldn't call that low

[sacred zodiac]

190<<<<<<<<<<90k

[river tapir]

rank 1 fury is 170k buddy

[kind stag]

im rank 1 million fury

[olive nest]

Did Archi mention anything about why he dumbed down the wowhead prio at all?

[sacred zodiac]

the bait is pristine

[slow saddle]

Ngl we miss dmg coz of fob bug

[river tapir]

[sacred zodiac]

how much damage even is it

[olive nest]

Ragish said 6%

But I have no idea

[sacred zodiac]

in what metric

[kind stag]

aoe?

[olive nest]

I would assume aoe

[minor gust]

5.5% in 5T is what fishy said

[olive nest]

Since fob triggers off 3

[sacred zodiac]

ye thats kinda big

[fresh spire]

It's more at 3t

[sacred zodiac]

esp since its vaguely concentrated against your prio

[fresh spire]

As a %

[rare kite]

wat? you act like the aoe has dropped a shit ton

[olive nest]

I’ll just blame that on my horrible paladins performance

my spec is bugged

[fresh spire]

Dks be like

And hunters

[vapid pine]

Half of which is pure prio damage right?

[late lantern]

what is the ress item called for m+?

[olive nest]

Wait so more like 8 yeah x.x

[ashen trout]

they keep posting hotfixes and we're not on there sadge

[olive nest]

We are warrior

[kind stag]

[daring pagoda]

Emergency Soul Link

[clever crag]

Warrior will be last

As always

[stiff fjord]

what are you guys simming on single target for COL , feel like im super low

[sacred zodiac]

chatgpt got me

[soft peak]

Do you guys have some good uis?

[fresh spire]

i followed this that one tier

:awkward:

[sacred zodiac]

you what

[ashen hill]

Aye just shut off your Screen and you will have the best UI you can IMAGINE

[soft peak]

Mine is shit , i can turn off

They got rid of wa, im lost

[clever crag]

Mine broke with patch lol

[ashen hill]

There are more then enough replacement addons already ^^

[soft peak]

I tried using critcakes ui

But after doing all

Nothing was looking like it

Bcdm was bugged

Bcm wasnt working idk

I spent 2 hrs

[deft kraken]

Yo. Wowhead pro lists have HS>MS on colossus but not in slayer. Why is that?

[nova marsh]

For st?

[deft kraken]

Yeah.

[strange comet]

Maybe cause they run marital prowess and some other talents that buff ms?

Higher priority means you're using the stacks and not wasting them? Idk just a guess

[flat willow]

my lack of marital prowess is why my wife left me

[strange comet]

Lol martial

[flat willow]

she took the kids

[strange comet]

More time to zug?

[flat willow]

yo TRUE

I didn't need them anyway, thanks man

[nova marsh]

Thats what you get for rolling dk

You dont have a damn clue how to use a sword you just do magic bullshit

[flat willow]

[bleak arrow]

DKs are objectively better partners. Till death do us part means nothing to a DK as they’re endless. Meanwhile warrior getting their out of jail card and hitting up all the strange in maldraxus.

[nova marsh]

....chief

They dont have functioning parts

Idk about better partners

[bleak arrow]

They have an assortment of working parts. Not organic per se. but it gets the job done

[wintry dome]

abomination limb is all you need

[nova marsh]

Yall are freaky I stg

[bleak arrow]

Don’t get me started on the vastly superior Mechagnome DK, endless stamina, and interchangeable accessories options package.

[thick sierra]

This guy might be cooking

And by might I mean HE IS

[nova marsh]

....na

Na na na

[kind stag]

cook a mechagnome

[worthy blaze]

does anyone know how to sim high m+ keys, should i do patchwerk 5 bosses or just a dung slice

[wind hatch]

patchwerk

[nova marsh]

Just do patch st

[wind hatch]

dungeon slice not good rn

[nova marsh]

Its more accurate for gearing purposes

Tbh dungeon slice has never been good

[wind hatch]

^

[sacred zodiac]

its fine if supported but its just not

[nova marsh]

Ehhhh

I just trust st sims more

[worthy blaze]

st as in single target right?

[languid torrent]

i wish raidbots would just get rid of it

basically no class supports it

[sacred zodiac]

ya

[frigid jewel]

So is the animation for the bonus slam after a cleave supposed to be missing now or?

[languid torrent]

yes

[heavy wigeon]

I was wondering that too, and the sound bites seemed super diminished

[languid torrent]

sound and animatoion are fucked

along with like 30 other things. patch is just borked AF

[nova marsh]

I hope classes get fixed today

Since bonus rolls are done

[frigid jewel]

So not only did they rob me of my free slam wound, but they robbed me of the dopamine hit of back to back animations

[languid torrent]

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-woody-taking-chance-8ball-billiard-gif-9807107

[frigid jewel]

Today's my first raid night this reset, I hope to god they let the warrior dev out of the cage

[pulsar frost]

Speaking of rolls id like to get my rolls soon smh

[nova marsh]

I assume of you spent we get them today

[pulsar frost]

The sooner the better

[nova marsh]

Im lucky and spent without rolling the bug in pit

[pulsar frost]

I wanna do 2 pit and be done today

I spent mine in. Dreamrift

[neon shale]

Is timelost saddlle thing ingame yet for 3400?

[pulsar frost]

No

[neon shale]

swag

[nova marsh]

Unfort that I don't raid mythic

But I got good shit out of pit

[pulsar frost]

Pugig

Pug it

[nova marsh]

ehhhh

Ngl man

[pulsar frost]

Ez fight

[nova marsh]

I feel like with how badly I need general gear

M+ might be a better spend

also you say that

Pugs will be there

[pulsar frost]

Not wrong

[nova marsh]

for 5 hours

[pulsar frost]

Not always

Tuseday kill when I rolled was a 2 pull

[nova marsh]

I barely trust pugs to do heroic

[pulsar frost]

I hope I cna bonus eoll weapon whenever they come back

[pulsar frost]

Either do I. But gotta get kill and roll. Got gaze out of it so im happy

[nova marsh]

I got a myth weap this week

But I'd rather have garfrost's

[pulsar frost]

I have a myth weapon just not haste crit

So im hoping for the one from pit. Works out for fury too since I'll have 2 myth

[nova marsh]

I got liferipper's

[pulsar frost]

I have skyreachss

[dire hinge]

a hammer wielded by garfrost? That thing has to weigh at least a ton, maybe even a ton and a half

[nova marsh]

+Pit has myth shoulder helm and neck I could roll for decent uppies

and ring too ig

[pulsar frost]

Depends on needs and wants. I wanted to get dreamrift out snd done as soon as possible

Got it in first week. Now I can just roll all on pit

2 today once they get back and 2 next week. Will be half done with pit by next week

[nova marsh]

fair fair

the only good myth trinket I have is heart of wind

[pulsar frost]

Some folks will be 6/8 done next week

Or this week whatever

Weapon and ring would be sick. Since I have myth void

[nova marsh]

I also have 2 champ pieces that need replacing and I'm behind af on crests

[soft venture]

I have an ST question, let’s say there is like just under a gcd left before MS is up and I can press slam or overpower or whatever is up. If I press that other gcd it delays my MS by 0.25s or whatever that time is. Is it better to leave that small amount of time and not press anything just to press MS like right when it’s off cd? Or fill that gcd with slam and have that .25 second delay on MS?

Sounds dumb but if I make the wrong choice, that adds up over a boss fight I feel like

[olive topaz]

It’s not gonna completely tank your dps but it would be better to just hold that fraction of a sec to press MS yeah

[safe dagger]

do i prio slam or op in st as colo?

[nova marsh]

I'm pretty sure OP is always prioed over slam

[dire hinge]

Remember to follow the ABCs (Always Be Casting).
If something isn't available, press the next available button instead. Overpower will indirectly boost your next MS damage anyways, and save you a bit of rage for later. You never want to delay core rotational buttons.

[hasty pumice]

What's D?

[dire hinge]

yeah, you're looking at a 0.2s delay on your MS which can accumulate over time, but you're also adding .2delay doing (literally nothing) which is worse than just pressing something else.

As a note, If you find yourself rage-starved, you're likely doing something incorrectly elsewhere

[dire hinge]

Dreadnaught

[hasty pumice]

Let this man cook

[soft venture]

Thanks!!

[dire hinge]

of course!

[soft venture]

I just find the damage profile for arms so weird right now, its like lowest dps until the end of the fight where I slowly climb to top 5... lol

[nova marsh]

yeah basically that's us

But in aoe this spec is so good

[hasty pumice]

Isn't that the dope stuff though

Execute is like THE warrior class fantasy imo

I love execute effects

[soft venture]

Its dope if ur in reclear, not if ur in prog lol

[nova marsh]

tbh fury has usually been the better prog spec

even if arms is tuned better

[rare kite]

this is tame compared to other expansions as well

[nova marsh]

remeber DF?

[soft venture]

DF execute was so good though it like didnt matter at all lol, I miss Venthyr arms warrior

[rare kite]

yuup. our damage on sennarth last phase tho holy moly

[nova marsh]

?

[dire hinge]

It feels strange at first, but when you go to actually kill the boss you'll end up on top 🙂
If anybody is giving you shit for not doing enough dps pre-execute, you can always post your logs here in #1347646810457636974 and we can take a look

[nova marsh]

Venthyr?

[dire hinge]

Shadowlands (Condemn)

[soft venture]

misphrased, sorry

[dire hinge]

we had some big execute throughput in DF as well

[nova marsh]

Yeah but we were extremely flat as well

[soft venture]

Sure I will post one!!

@dire hinge if you get a chance, here is my best one, not amazing I know but trying to improve: https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1497274912174375033

[lyric flame]

is it not possible to macro ravager with any other spell any more?

[nova marsh]

Guys

what if they made rage pots work

[nova marsh]

Maybe avatar

[rare kite]

technically it is possible with avatar but i would not do that

[lyric flame]

yeah i mean its completely fine i just have to use a keybind i dont like for it, and its just not a nice feeling button to hit manually anyway

seems to work nicely in a cast sequence of rend,ravager ill try that for a bit

just dont hit the button twice when i dont want to use ravager

[pulsar frost]

when we getting our voidcores back man, i wanna roll stuff

[nova marsh]

I am not a blizzard entertainment employee lol

Also it's like

...approaching midway in cali I think?

[pulsar frost]

well get them to tell you

[nova marsh]

Usually blizz does patches around midday I think

[pulsar frost]

ok i expect 12 pm today or ill hunt you down

[nova marsh]

err hotfixes

damn bro

tf did I do I'm just a gamer

[slow saddle]

Idm flat until exe if exe is spiky

And our overall st isnt tuned like we are atm

[quaint tusk]

is there a way to get heroic strike as a proc shown on acdm?

[slow saddle]

No

U will put slam and love watchin it swith to hs

[nova marsh]

True

I mean we didnt have great st in keys anyways then

And we werent reliant on demo stacks going into a fight

[safe dagger]

does anyone have biz's build

[nova marsh]

The colo cook?

[storm ruin]

hi all does anyone know to craft either the spell breakers march or the cloak because im not sure the boots are champion but my cloak is hero it seems better to get boots but i just want someones opinion

[nova marsh]

Ask the robot at raidbots.com

[safe dagger]

yeah

[sullen stirrup]

Cloak wrists boots belt. All the same

[slow saddle]

Just move powerfull swings and me to op and mortal thongy

[nova marsh]

Drop powerful momentum and mass execution for overpowering finish and martial prowess

[slow saddle]

What he said🤣

[dire hinge]

are you looking for insights on which one is better, or are you looking for a crafter to make you something?

[safe dagger]

how much more st vs aoe loss is it

[fervent cedar]

If you are putting your embellishment on it, I would craft a cloak since it is a low stat budget item
If you are crafting for ilvl, boots are fine

[dire hinge]

this is an extremely simmable question
just make a new talent tree and pop it into Raidbots

[nova marsh]

Kinda depends

[fast nebula]

I will never forget rekill mythic Sylvanas Windrunner in the last patch of that season with all the power maxed out. Managed to pull aggo 2mins into the fight execute was doing so much dps. Prob one of the most memorable moments in wow.

[nova marsh]

Because you need shit to live for mass exe to be worth it for longer then literally 2 gcds

But yes what hroth said

Id sim it

[pulsar frost]

u have 2 hours or im hunting you

[nova marsh]

Dont make me get the gun

And the gamba

[safe dagger]

do i old ms for 3 martial stacks

[tawdry bear]

For colossus on dragons just pad adds?

[nova marsh]

No

[fervent cedar]

If they live long enough sure

you're not a real spec until p3 anyways

[tawdry bear]

For myth dragons.

[fervent cedar]

then yes

[tawdry bear]

Ravanger should be held for adds then? I sent it in the opener a few times and it felt REALLY bad.

[fervent cedar]

yes

all ravager does is make your cleave have higher prio in ST, its better spent where you get the most value which is on the adds

[tawdry bear]

Any advice for breaking tethers on the intermission? I keep using interpose, but i feel that will one day kill me.

[fervent cedar]

thats a fine way to do it

any movement tool is fine

[tawdry bear]

I tried howl but it doesnt move me enough.

[fervent cedar]

because howl is dogshit

you're better off leaping or using interpose

[tawdry bear]

I am trying to hold leap incase I get the fear mechanic.

[fervent cedar]

you can howl if you really want to try and give something to other less mobile players like casters and whatnot but

its still dogshit

[fervent cedar]

then what you're currently doing with interpose is fine

[tawdry bear]

Is it worth saving CS for adds? Or could you send demo w/o it?

We only have one blood dk right now. So we get 1 grip for the hard overlaps.

[fervent cedar]

hold demolish for your CS windows unless you get lucky with your MS crits and get one well before your CS cd is done

[reef prairie]

if the adds are dying quickly you dont really need to worry about it

[tawdry bear]

So far I can get demo and CS every add phase.

[reef prairie]

especially if they aren't being gripped and grouped well

[tawdry bear]

But I have to hold them for 4 or 5 seconds.

[fervent cedar]

without knowing the full context thats probably fine considering your damage on adds is going to be a lot more valuable than your single target

[storm ruin]

what would be the bis embelish for boots ??

[fervent cedar]

dont put it on boots

put it on a low stat budget item like wrists or cloak

arcanoweave lining

[cunning vapor]

is arms one of those specs that suffers big dps loss when making a mistake in the rotation or is it fine for the most part if you fuck up? for pve I mean

[rare kite]

depends on what the mistake is. for the most part a mistake is fine but it adds

adds up

for example if you use execute as colossus by mistake at low rage you're gonna be starved for a while... tho col doesn't really press executes that aren't sd anyway

[cunning vapor]

can't give too many examples as I've just finished leveling warr but maybe something like messing up CS timing or not using it with bladestorm or minmaxing executioners stacks with ms

[rare kite]

yea using bladestorm outside of cs is a big mistake

tbf it's pretty easy to remember to only use bladestorm inside of cs

[cursive drum]

So that mortal wounds bug, pretty big or very minor? Sorry is this has been answered 100x already

[cunning vapor]

yea. I guess what I wanted to know is if small mistakes cause too much of a dps loss. that example might've been too bad

[rose ibex]

Despite gaze not simming well I could definitely feel that it was giving me more damage overall vs something like guidon

[wind hatch]

in 5 targets its like a 5% loss or something

[rare kite]

generally a small mistake is not too bad of a dps loss. if you make alot of them it cascades tho

[sturdy matrix]

i was wondering if this was the case

[cursive drum]

Thanks

[radiant moon]

starting to lose hope for tuning notes today