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slow saddle
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with that im just opposite ๐Ÿ˜„

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ok show gear dokran

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i bet my weapon is holdin me back a bit

hybrid needle
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One day i will regret clicking on random pictures

slow saddle
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Vantus chea

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t

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โค๏ธ

stable fiber
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nope

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no vantus

wind hatch
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this is quick sim but whatever

stable fiber
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i should check purloined wedding ring

slow saddle
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Wait for real

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just changing ring

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wth does that help

stable fiber
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yes

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i assume

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its making up for your dogshit weapon stats

slow saddle
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๐Ÿ˜„

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ikr

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

stable fiber
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actually i can make this sim even higher maybe

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hold

slow saddle
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ngl i AM gonna roll from pit

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for real do it ๐Ÿ˜„

stable fiber
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that sim is using reck pot which is harder to use, let me see how lights potential shapes up

slow saddle
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i thought it used lights potential baseline?

north forge
stable fiber
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that one wasnt

slow saddle
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wth am i doing ๐Ÿ˜„

stable fiber
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nah urs was

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the one i linked wasnt

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i wonder if removing the embellishment off your weapon is a dps increase and putting it on lmao...

hybrid needle
slow saddle
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i mean i "missed" last 2

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coz 1 was socket

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and 1 was bonusroll

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coz FUCK U thats why

slow saddle
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i simmed exactly that now

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coz i was wondering same ๐Ÿ˜„

reef bone
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are the rolls fixed yet? is it safe?

stable fiber
stable fiber
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finished

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purloined with 2x crit effect

reef bone
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no reports of it not being broken?

stable fiber
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berserker rage on wep

stable fiber
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REMOVE "not"

reef bone
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Ha

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okay good

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thanks

stable fiber
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np

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2x flawless quick garnet's

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crit flask + reck pot

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#showtooltip Potion of Recklessness
/cancelaura Frenzied Focus
/cancelaura Hasty Hunt
/use item:245902
/use item:241288
/use item:245903
/use item:241289

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make sure to use that macro ^

slow saddle
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whats that ?

hybrid needle
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Now the question is - how close to 90k ST do u get in reality

stable fiber
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its all the different ranks and versions of potion of recklessness

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and cancels the weapon proc

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because if it procs haste

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you lose

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so you have to cancel it or else itll proc haste and you will lose a shit ton of dps

slow saddle
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I WON !

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with light

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also

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69

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i gotta go for that one

stable fiber
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that is using a reck pot isnt it

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lol

astral yarrow
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damn unholy got shot

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again

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xdd

wind hatch
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meanwhile devourer just exists

flat willow
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what do you mean again

astral yarrow
stable fiber
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the unholy bug got fixed for my 2 dks and the dps still looked sad

wicked aurora
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I feel like Colo is just simply the best key spec now

astral yarrow
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just to have bugfixes and then individual abilities buffed to the sky

flat willow
stable fiber
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i told u guys the uhdk changes where not buffs

flat willow
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ITS SPREADING

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someone save us

wicked aurora
wind hatch
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i feel like a wow discord server isnt the right place to push that kind of scam

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we all uncs

stable fiber
balmy kindle
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^^

stable fiber
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the commander of the dead shit was fixed for my 2 dks

wicked aurora
stable fiber
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mograine bug is fixed

wicked aurora
inland drift
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id devourer that fun?

stable fiber
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i was told it was

inland drift
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the top meta dps ofc needed a 10% buff

astral yarrow
balmy kindle
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It is the new class so keks

wicked aurora
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You were told wrong

inland drift
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wish i could change the void colors to red, and make it like a skarbrand khorne thing

wind hatch
pulsar frost
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are we prefering slayer in MT?

stable fiber
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nice spec

flat willow
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that's a lot of bug

inland drift
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the whole patch is filled with bugs ๐Ÿ’€

flat willow
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talking about dk and dh, dk have been asking for green and red eyes for like 10 years

stable fiber
flat willow
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but dh got them first

stable fiber
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in timewalking

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mogushan palace 1st boss

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the dog leaped on me and dced me

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logged in and my character was practically unplayable

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cool

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couldnt cast, couldnt jump

inland drift
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we got em war buggs too right4

flat willow
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a friend of mine got the straf bug cuz of time walking

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had to restart their pc

wicked aurora
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Anyways, some warrior talk rq, does anyone else feel like slayer m+ just isnโ€™t worth it with the Colo changes?

flat willow
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slayer feels like crap in m+ after the patch

stable fiber
inland drift
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yeee

wind hatch
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I do feel like colo is pretty dominant again

inland drift
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i like sending more demolishers in a fight

wicked aurora
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Who doesnโ€™t?

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Big swing do big number

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Big number make monkey brain happy

balmy kindle
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Colo is fun now but we can definitely use more ST buffs

wind hatch
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I think they need to buff Devourer

rigid sun
stable fiber
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well they kinda learned how colossus works a bit now

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so colo st buffs will result in aoe nerfs probably

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still have no idea why they added whirlwind to practiced strikes

balmy kindle
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Well tbf Colo is nice is m+ , but raid dmg is kinda joke

rigid sun
stable fiber
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it somehow got through though lmfao

crimson cairn
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Are the mortal wounds still bugged?

stable fiber
crimson cairn
wicked aurora
slow saddle
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it was not good on beta

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it was BUFFED out of beta

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like half the time it was mid

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like it should be

trail lichen
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So slayer in m+ not even worth it?

stable fiber
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cleave still destoryed in beta

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i promise you

slow saddle
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like op-Dreadnaught kept up

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yeah but it was overshadowed

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blizzard did NOT like that

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so

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get facked

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warrior

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nerf everything thats good about us

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buff cleave

wicked aurora
stable fiber
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dn got nerfed but cleave was still 200k of your overall on beta

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the problem is your ST was 10k dps

slow saddle
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we want to FORCE cleave

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BUT we also wanna MAKE U talent it

crimson cairn
slow saddle
balmy kindle
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Cleave you will press this and you will like it

slow saddle
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until they totally crapped us to hell

stable fiber
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?

wicked aurora
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Bring back storm of swords, delete cleave

slow saddle
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like i say again last beta fix

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they

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20% ms nerf

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33% DW nerf

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20 % op nerf

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60% Dreadnaught nerf

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20% exe nerf

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was the last thing they did

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oh yeah and heavy nerf to opportunitist

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like pre that our ST was kindda respectable // kindda in the higher echelon

flat willow
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its always MS that gets the chair

balmy kindle
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Theo's correct, still remember the memes bedge

lyric pier
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this already solved ?

stable fiber
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oh great

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replay is broken

slow saddle
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NOT

clever crag
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How is colo m+ now

slow saddle
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so

stable fiber
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w/e ill just go hit dummy

slow saddle
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feels bad coz of bug

clever crag
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Was forced to tank all my keys yday

balmy kindle
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Think there's too many dpssadge

clever crag
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Ppl want devo/demo because of clueless devs

balmy kindle
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Just play prot hold down W key

clever crag
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Yeah its fun

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Pull half the dung then hold s

balmy kindle
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Be passive aggressive to everyone because I am tank okayge

clever crag
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Tank = chad

balmy kindle
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You will keep me alive and deal with it

clever crag
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If I die = healers fault

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Or dps for killing too slow

drowsy fiber
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Bonus roll works in m+ now?

stable fiber
balmy kindle
stone grotto
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What's typical opener for lust pull on colo arms? Am I supposed to try and get 10 stack of colossal might before pressing smash + demo?

clever crag
balmy kindle
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I've done that a few times tbh : don't complain kill faster keks

slow saddle
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Prepull

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timer

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u send sweep

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try to farm 1 or 2 ms b4 they are stacked

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then u go ham and send demo when ever r?

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but u still cleave before or ?

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do we wanna Demo first to cleave now ?

stable fiber
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glad this still isnt getting tracked on the cdm

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was working before lmao

slow saddle
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Khazix tbh

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i dont wanna c

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it drops to often

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same with cm stacks

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like its a crime

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everytime we need to run just a bit

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its gone

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or theres RP after boss get wrecked

stable fiber
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idk i dont think that one drops too often

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but yeah RP ruins it

balmy kindle
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Heroic strike you mean?

stable fiber
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i kinda think its important for me to track

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i like to hold heroic strikes if i already have 5 stacks on a boss for example

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but idk

slow saddle
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where it can happen if unlucky or holding a bit to next pac

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again horrid design

balmy kindle
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Not sure if intended but it seems heroic strike has no indication of its duration

stable fiber
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its 15 seconds but yeah idk how im supposed to track heroic strike itself

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although most times you want to use it

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insta

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no way to track it ingame other then counting

clever crag
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ST on fury is so bad now

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Think my arms sims higher now lol

balmy kindle
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Blizzard tuning okayge

frosty basin
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I have 3 rolls now, what to go for? POS or wait

clever crag
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Blizzard giving the fat kid (devo) more food

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It feels like the devs vision is warr forever middle of the pack now in raid

kind stag
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Middle?

crimson cairn
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Middle would be good

clever crag
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Bottom middle kek

balmy kindle
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More like bottom end keks

kind stag
indigo quail
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Hello

kind stag
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God i wish middle

clever crag
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We got vanguard I guess

balmy kindle
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Yeah vanguards the only fight I enjoy

tame hill
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if warrior would be in the same spot as devo rn they would get nuked in 0.0001 sec

clever crag
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Yep

kind stag
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I dont like council fights

crimson cairn
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Ofc they would, as they did in nerub'ar

clever crag
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Only in Legion did this happen

indigo quail
kind stag
clever crag
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And was allowed

indigo quail
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Lets see the new patch

kind stag
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Warrior aura nerf

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Play prot or die

balmy kindle
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Pissed off dps players running keys as tank surely it's going to be wholesomekeks

clever crag
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I honestly enjoy prot now

quick acorn
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Why am I feeling like doing less damage since yesterday?

balmy kindle
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It's comfy

clever crag
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It goes arms >>> prot >>>>>> fury

kind stag
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I would reroll i dont play tanks

kind stag
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Together that is

clever crag
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I also have brew and that shit is kinda boring

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Too ez

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FFXIV rotation

balmy kindle
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Prot war still the most comfortable though

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Like I have no idea how to tank keks

kind stag
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Fury is still the most fun spec though for me no matter what

clever crag
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Yeah because your hp is always full

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IP goated

kind stag
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If i played tank id play yapadin

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Or dk

balmy kindle
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I see tank buster I use shield block and slacc

clever crag
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Trashadin

flat willow
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nobody would pick blood dk

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do not lie

clever crag
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Flooradin

kind stag
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But tank balance is even worse than dps balance

flat willow
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" hehehehe I love every mob in the game can put me at 10% hp from full in 1 auto "

clever crag
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Prot is high skill cap Id say atleast in terms of dps

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Knowing where to blast battle stance etc

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Low skill floor tho

balmy kindle
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But you can just afk brain rot in mountain thane though

clever crag
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Ofc you can thats why its nice

balmy kindle
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Works for the dulling weeklies

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No effort required best of all just randomly hit buttons

clever crag
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Brew I like the movement but its just one rotation over and over

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It used to be so complex in Legion

flat willow
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that's the case for most specs

kind stag
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Man lets hope start of next season is not doom

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Surely

clever crag
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Riiight

tame hill
clever crag
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I got 3k as dps but decline fiesta now

balmy kindle
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Not holding high hopes KEKW

clever crag
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Prolly time to push it on tank

tame hill
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inbefore blizz gives both speccs the worst set with like 2% gain again

clever crag
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Our current is so nice

kind stag
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Man ngl if i have to ill reroll if next season we garbage again

clever crag
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Noo dont do it

kind stag
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If we middle of pack im fine but cba being so behind

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Devourer meanwhile gets buffed

flat willow
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I always have my death knight alt ready

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for when they nuke warrior

kind stag
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Id go paladin since i played it in legion

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Im too lazy to level another class

flat willow
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I just hope it's frost that will be meta in S2

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if they nuke arms

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unholy alt is fine but spamming scourge strike that deals no damage kinda gets old fast

kind stag
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Uh im kinda disappointed

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Its just

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So bland

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And outside of CDs you do no dmg

flat willow
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unholy is just 50 passives and procs that deal no damage in a box

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and when you press army you deal x 500 damage

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on everything

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it kinda feels like you aren't even playing

kind stag
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I hate that because if i dont have CDs it feels ass

flat willow
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probably could afk outside of army and people wouldn't notice

kind stag
indigo quail
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Eh ill still play arms so the logs show dogshit dmg so we get buffed

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Fingers crossed for a future rework. Need shout or banner instead of avatar on colussus. Keep that shit on thane

dim basalt
flat willow
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no, remove rav/avatar and bring back battlecry

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we love battlecry

indigo quail
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Anything except turning into into a concrete block

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Didnt warrior have banner on MoP

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?

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Been a few years and granted i was away for a decade.

shut token
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Ravager is such a weird ability i feel, would anyone really miss it if it were gone and we just used bladestorm instead?

clever crag
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Its alright on prot

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Just a proc lol

indigo quail
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I would use bladestorm if it had that heroes of the storm animation

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Instead of the spin to win

clever crag
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DF was nice with the big whirlwinds

indigo quail
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Not a beyblade

flat willow
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very fun gameplay

rigid sun
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Bladestorm unhinged mortal strikes used to work with sweeping strikes, idk why they removed that

flat willow
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we could be like a caster warrior

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you cast puzzle box

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into cs, into cast demolish, into cast bladestorm

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maybe bring back slam cast?

vapid pine
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Bladestorm is sick to channel when it actually does big dam on a longer CD tbh

shut token
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One thing i always liked about warrior is that all abilities feel "real" basic in a good way, ravager is just one of those I never understood thematically, you get so angry you throw your weapon so it spins on the ground or what

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was arms always a cleave-bot like now with having to choose between ST(lol) and AoE or was it different in earlier expanions?

flat willow
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well, there were so many expansions

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ever since they brought back talent trees, arms always was one of the spec that suffered the most from having to sacrifice ST to bring aoe

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if that's what you are asking

shut token
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yeah alright,that is the one thing that made me switch to fury tbh

flat willow
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in dragonflight you had to sacrifice a lot of points to be allowed to aoe, they fixed it a little bit in war within but they brought hero specs

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and they decided that colossus should be an aoe tree and slayer a st one

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kinda feels bad that warrior is the only class in the game where hero specs are " aoe vs single target "

shut token
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yeah that annoys the shit out of me, and i canยดt even find a middle ground becuase if i only take cleave and not the other spells that buffs cleave i still do shit aoe

covert birch
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Is SD still bugged when having 2 stacks as Slayer

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Doesnโ€™t reduce BS CD

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In fact it increases BS CD by 1 second lmao that is crazy

tame hill
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is that really a thing?

indigo quail
covert birch
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Yeah if you have 2 sudden death stacks as slayer, the 1st execute doesnโ€™t reduce Bladestorm cd it even increases it by 1 sec

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The 2nd one actually reduces bladestorm cd

obtuse kiln
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hey guys is crafted weap or pos myth weap better on arms?

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I simmed pos weap doing slightly better but is it negligible?

rigid sun
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And the way it worked was you got a strength buff from spending rage and whirlwind was the most rage spender you could press

clever crag
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Hahaha

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Dont remind me of FoB warrior

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Was that Uldir ?

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Test of Might SUCKED too

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That was terrible arms

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Current feels great st and aoe

shut token
humble hollow
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did they change HS animation?

reef bone
indigo quail
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You do a cool jump attack now

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Best Aura Farming buff

humble hollow
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looks like old CS, I like

indigo quail
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Ye looks pretty good. Altough I dont think its working with the talent of casting cleave on more than 3 targets and slamming the primary one

quartz wharf
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Any1 noticed bugged Heroic might on cooldown manager? It doesnt track the buff even if reselected, shows As unlearned ability in cdm menu

clever crag
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Feels actually heroic

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Before it was limp strike

indigo quail
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True.

clever crag
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Btw guys are we just CHEEKS without sham buff in st ?

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The rage starve is crazy

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Especially exe phase

indigo quail
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I dont play meta builds

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But i did spec on slam 25% reduction

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Cause im constantly spamming up to 3 times that shit

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Again i dont play meta, and im on a pretty chill guild so no one cares.

astral yarrow
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also cheeks with it, but ya know

clever crag
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Little less

flat willow
clever crag
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Atleast feel wise

flat willow
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hope that helped

fervent urchin
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Is the deep wounds bug fixed?

quick acorn
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nothing is fixed atm

rustic jolt
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they fixed smth or? but not on war

indigo quail
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Man i have raid tonight

inland ingot
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The deep wound bug, imo, stems from the same code where Slam coming from Fervor doesnโ€™t cause a proc of Heroic Strike

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Basically, it is a Slam-like ability, but not actually a Slam

fervent urchin
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This is the most bugged and trash season so far, dungeons, classes, everything is bugged. Housing is more important that enything else as it seems

inland ingot
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And housing is also bugged ๐Ÿ™‚

halcyon valve
forest eagle
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lads what build we play on algethar 18's ?

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\

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still slayer? but do we play with the bloodborne battlelord or IWS/critical thinking?

slow saddle
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Dno man im cursed

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I swesr im hsving times i do 4 slams between ms

soft parcel
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sometimes all things reset and things go smooth

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and sometimes engine just stalls

storm canopy
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Dont worry we get buffed on friday #pray

sand totem
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So before I head over to log reviews, anyone else feel like something is just a bit off? Every pull this week for me im doing ~10% less than last week. Maybe I just lost the plot, but my dogwater felt too consistently bad lmao

dim basalt
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aoe is roughly the same

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Just prio damage is bugged atm

sand totem
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I know fervor is, but even straight ST like on voracious I'm strugglin

dim basalt
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I havent noticed a difference tbh

indigo quail
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Everyweek is buff week for arms warrior

dim basalt
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Who cares about raid performance when the raids suck for melee

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In M+ we shine

ashen night
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do we? i feel weaker now as slayer than before sadge

dim basalt
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Well thats because youre playing Slayer

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Slayer competes with other specs while colossus takes a dump on (almost) every other spec

kind kernel
tame hill
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yea but bosses feel horrible on highkeys if nothing is pulled into boss

dim basalt
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It defo got much better

kind kernel
tame hill
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yea but the stack accumulation in st feels kinda shit

kind kernel
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if they'd let us get RNG stacks from slamming in ST i'd be a happy zug

tame hill
kind kernel
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Although its fun to be "the bar" on ST. Like if you don't beat me, whats wrong with you

topaz python
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does anyone know why gaze trinket sims so bad on arms?

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like HC version of gaze is outsimmed by feather from beloren HC

chrome otter
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so in an aoe situation, if cleave and ms are off cd, cleave > ms or other way around?

rigid sun
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Depends on your stats, my gaze sims better than anything else I've had the chance to take from vault

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M+ trinkets in vault doesn't compare to my hc gaze

topaz python
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I'm in bis in terms of stats, some items HC some Mythic
but overall I'm missing only ring from Lura

rigid sun
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The teinket you mentioned from first boss at mythic is 0,9% upgrade tho so might use that if I get it

ashen night
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i may have a stupid question.. is cs and Demo centered around me or my target?

topaz python
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like how in the world mythic 6/6 gaze could sim +600 dps
im having HC plume and HC heart from voracious
members of my static sim that trinket for like 3-5k dps okayge

late lantern
hard juniper
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Yeah but that involves actually pressing puzzle box

frosty basin
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How is colossus in m+ after the patch?

hard juniper
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Feels about the same tbh. Still cant even tell if theres a difference in sending the extra demolish or not, in about 10 keys I feel like my damage is the same regardless of what I do

astral yarrow
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or an arc or however you wanna describe it

hard juniper
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I thought it was a circle around your target more so than a cone. But basically the same thing

astral yarrow
frosty basin
loud mauve
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0.2% accoridng to Archie

astral yarrow
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easy way to go about it is just holding demolish for next CS

hard juniper
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There are times where its very obvious you'll get it back in time like if you have 20+ seconds left on CS cooldown. Then I send it. Any less than that I just have been holding.

pulsar hollow
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Do you guys notice any difference in ST damage at all

hard juniper
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In pure ST i still felt like I was closer to the tank, than to the 2nd place dps.

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But I also felt like I didnt get one MS reset all night. Was about to snap my keyboard

sudden fox
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wtf is NSRT volume on now

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Its so soft

misty yew
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Anyone elses sounds bugged out for attacks like cleave and the heroic strike

kind stag
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yes

mild sierra
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New patch = everyrhing is bugged

kind stag
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but some say its on some races

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ive seen someone said male orc had audio bugs but female dont

summer shore
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Colossus st in m+ is still garbage

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Or am i doing it wrong

kind stag
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nah its garbo

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unless funnel

summer shore
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Feels like the buff didnt change any

gentle atlas
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it pretty much didn't

dim basalt
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It got better for sure

boreal zealot
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sare bonus rolls im m+ fixed for sure now?

left shard
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Isnt it legit better to send out demolish immediately After cs at the start of the pull since u will get it again very fast ?

sweet basin
flat willow
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so your feeling is probably true

fallen bolt
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The problem comes from blizzard who buff Meta dps for no reason

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So ppl wanna lock and devo

summer shore
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Devourer doing 110k on st while im sitting at 70k feels bad man

dim basalt
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Getting into keys as Arms is not an issue in higher keys

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In lower keys Devourer should be close to useless

fallen bolt
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I can t imagine meeting from dev team and design team

flat willow
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well I don't think it would be that weird, probably something like " We wan't people to swap to the new spec, buff it even it's already the best spec in the game, also nerf fury warrior "

fallen bolt
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At least delete old class

slow saddle
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theres no evidence, its just today i had a 4 slam into a ms into a slam b4 reset

kind stag
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tactician feels off

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i cant explain it nor do i have anything to prove it

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vibes are off

flat willow
#

slayer failed the vibe check

kind stag
#

colo i also dont vibe with atm praying for op reset

#

dont happen

flat willow
#

idk, colo always felt like shit single target so I'm not super weirded out

slow saddle
#

yeah as said, it just feels like the 30%

#

is more random than b4

#

b4 it felt almost felt addative

#

so 30-60-90

#

if it failed

#

i know it isnt but

misty yew
#

Is there some functionality in blizz ui that pops rend up if it's misisng on enemy target?

clever crag
marsh thistle
#

so somehow my warrior abilities are sounding weirdish? is that a feature of the new patch

astral yarrow
#

someone talked about the slam from ferver of battle was missing i think

slow saddle
#

i think at least

#

if not all plater addons do

misty yew
#

how does cdm do it

#

like if it doesn't have rend on target

toxic surge
#

The 10+% delta is not big enough for a hero class... when is the next wave of devourer buffs planner for? in 2 weeks? ๐Ÿคก

marsh thistle
#

I wonder how this situation came to be same thing I am also wondering whats happening with fury ST dmg

tame hill
#

isnt warrior a hero class btw?

#

or are we just some fucking farmer on a corn field

mortal rivet
#

So CLEARLY they needed more damage

toxic surge
#

define "struggling in open world" ๐Ÿคฃ

#

dying to quest mobs in hero/myth ilev?

#

are you trolling

flat willow
#

did you see dev dh players?

#

they lose the duel against prey mobs

mortal rivet
#

No that was an argument folks were making on Reddit and it was funny enough I needed to share

toxic surge
#

sry, it's indeed very funny :)))

rancid robin
#

did they hotfix us ?

#

for the bleed issue *

dim basalt
#

no

deft bluff
#

Warrior is alphabetically last, just as Blizzards priority list

#

Clearly Deatknight and Demonhunter are more important due to alphabetical ordering

rancid robin
#

well we'll pbly have to wait until next week

short vessel
#

Hello there, i have a question about Collateral Damage and cleave. Should we play around it? I mean lets say, i have 2/3 in CD and my cleave is ready and any other ability to get 3/3 ready. Should i get 3/3 and cleave after or "dont give a fuck and cleave every possible gcd"?

rancid robin
#

cleave is rdy = send cleave, pretty much

halcyon hamlet
#

So a paladin can bubble through a boss mechanic but if we heroic leap above a boss ray we get killed? :p Noticed heroic leap isn't useful when trying to jump over a boss mechanic xD

shy oyster
#

In truth, it's a telegraphed line that works similar in pathing like charge

#

Technically, you're actually leaving a line between your location and your destination. Soooo... anything that happens in that line will also affect you ๐Ÿคท

ruby pulsar
#

That only kind of true because you can definitely leap over the engi lines in nexus point. Very weird

oblique lodge
surreal spade
#

the hiting song still bugged?

shy oyster
#

we do too. difference is that blizzard listens to their song and dance.

#

ours get thrown in the bin ._.

oblique lodge
candid garden
#

We use cleave in ST during ravager?

shy oyster
#

the other kid (the other classes and specs) are bones

oblique lodge
sullen moat
#

is it just me or do arms feel different ? its like the flow i had with slayer is gone. i can't really prove it but its like something is missing

shy oyster
zinc yacht
slow saddle
#

i have legit no clue atm

#

also 70 ST is sad

oblique lodge
slow saddle
#

look into u are using all raid buffs

#

dno if u have that in m+

#

theres something off with tactician

sullen moat
dim basalt
#

I legit didnt notice anything different in raid last night

calm hollow
zinc yacht
sullen moat
dim basalt
#

Biz even plays col in AA now with slightly modified talents

shy oyster
calm hollow
#

Same, did one key, everything just felt wrong, colo is way more fun with the changes

shy oyster
#

Having those powers and the trinket allows the powers to activate anywhere so long as you have the trinket

#

Using it is basically a constant proc on Crit, which is very nice for us arms folk

halcyon hamlet
#

In nexus leaping over the first boss rays will get you killed

zinc yacht
shy oyster
#

Yeah, it is. Same result when I simmed with my trinks

#

got a myth puzzle box and its often paired with crucible too

sullen moat
zinc yacht
#

Crazy

shy oyster
#

Look at it this way: its the crutch until you get the more stronger raid trinks ๐Ÿ˜‚

dark holly
#

Feel like this is going to be the dumbest question ever but I'm trying and Arms and loaded in wowhead ST talents, can't find Heroic Strike?

#

Was it removed?

shy oyster
#

still there

iron moat
#

ye

dark holly
#

Aha!

shy oyster
#

HS is our apex

dark holly
#

Thankyou

shy oyster
#

:

#

:3

toxic osprey
#

I'm i the only one having the feeling that Deep wounds not stacking ? When i mouse over the bleed when i add a new stack i don't have a change in the dmg/sec

midnight minnow
#

my cooldown manager no longer tracks martial prowess or heroic might, any way around this?

lunar idol
#

Maybe alreadu ask a billion time guys, do you send demolish on CD guys ? Or do you old for Collosus and or < 20% hp pack ?

slow saddle
#

u can do both man

#

i just send it

#

difference is small

#

in ideal scenario u hold, but shits never ideal

#

as u said monster health and such

lunar idol
#

ok, so on cd now ๐Ÿ˜› thx

zinc yacht
shy oyster
#

yeah, if we had actually proper timing we'd pair cs and demo together. we dont have this...

#

luxury of '''''''''''''''''''''''''''timing''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''

#

whoever thought of that!

midnight minnow
clever crag
#

So with the changes I see way more colo warrs on mythic first boss

lunar idol
#

it's a crit on MS who shorten demolish cd right ?

clever crag
#

Before it was mostly slayer

dim basalt
rustic reef
#

around how much st should you be dealing on st as colo on bosses m+ (pure st no funnel) 280+

lunar idol
#

oh ok\

opaque anchor
#

How come puzzlebox just sims worse than almost every other trinket for me (Colossus dungeon slice)?

rustic reef
#

I always feel so bad doing 60k

shy oyster
indigo quail
#

I use a trinket for crit and the other gives me a shield because survivability is terrible. Dead dps does no dmg

clever crag
#

Arms surv is good tf

#

Try WW monk

#

That is trash

shy oyster
#

just swallow the bitter pill in st times as arms

#

you'll more than make up for it in cleave/aoe pulls

slow saddle
rustic reef
slow saddle
#

Be happy u m+

clever crag
#

Dungeon slice cant possibly sim the big pull with puzzle

#

Perfectly timed

shy oyster
rustic reef
#

Imagine how good some of the fights would be if arms had good st this expac

slow saddle
#

Worse

shy oyster
#

bitter af and ur left wondering why

clever crag
slow saddle
clever crag
#

What other dps can tank for few secs when tank dies

slow saddle
rustic reef
#

Like idk how we let mm hunters be top dps on a 2 target cleave fight on boss dmg

#

its not just us desto warlocks have it bad as well it seems

clever crag
#

IV on cd is crazy 30% hp reset on kill

slow saddle
#

No longer

#

Yup

#

Arms is very strong

clever crag
#

I can chain mobs with IV and live forever in pvp lol

slow saddle
#

Like not dk

clever crag
#

Its a crazy spell

slow saddle
#

Strong

clever crag
#

When you try other classes you realize how good war defensives are

#

Just not idiot proof like pala/rogue etc

#

Death saves

kind stag
#

Spell reflect my goat

night niche
#

everytime i play another class i get reminded of how nice it is to have spell reflect

clever crag
#

Yeah I want to press it and its not there lol

indigo quail
#

Spell reflect, parry, stance change, and victory rush. Paladin mean while can just heal whenever, or pop like 29 bubbles.

#

If parry had a lower cd...

clever crag
#

Healing is casted tho

indigo quail
#

Now that would be cool

slow saddle
#

Y

indigo quail
slow saddle
#

Arms is strong

clever crag
#

Ah yeah

#

Thats busted world of glory

slow saddle
#

Ret is meta or near

#

Coz stupid dmg

indigo quail
# slow saddle Arms is strong

M+ Sure. Raid im figthing for my life to beat the Blood DK tank on Dmg. Not on the Ligh Vanguard tho. That fight Arms slaps

slow saddle
#

I am deffo lot bettwr than that

#

But its rough

#

At 281 simmin less than 100l

#

K

#

Says it all

indigo quail
#

Not the BiS gear. Like i said im casual ๐Ÿ™‚

slow saddle
#

I mean fighting with tanks is on u

#

Not gear

indigo quail
#

Bur i feel it should be a bit better. If you have a talent tree that basically forces you on a single choice. Whats the point of having a talent tree?

slow saddle
#

If u choose 2 take bad talents i mean๐Ÿ˜…

#

M8 u have 2 choose a lot of nad

indigo quail
slow saddle
#

Still on u

#

Leap out charge in

#

Exept if its last 3 bisses

astral yarrow
#

"need to do mechanics" is mostly a bad excuse

slow saddle
#

We cooked๐Ÿ˜…

indigo quail
#

Sure thing mate. Its the best DPS in the game

slow saddle
#

Nah arms is piss poor

#

But if u lack uptime

indigo quail
#

Im just terrible

astral yarrow
#

so am i

slow saddle
#

And spec fpr fun

indigo quail
#

Im aware of my gameplay

astral yarrow
#

but less terrible than a lot of others ratge

bleak arrow
#

#BadTogether

ionic mica
slow saddle
#

I mean u will always loose 2 tanks

#

No matter clasd

indigo quail
#

But it shouldnt be that close between a tank a a dps on a single boss

#

Thats my point

slow saddle
#

It rly isnt

#

Esp not bdk๐Ÿคฃ

#

Mby guardian

#

Ofc if u play aoe collosus in raid

#

Yeah i mean๐Ÿ˜†

#

U are screwed

indigo quail
#

Sure am.

#

Lol, but slayer is terrible

#

Dont like it xD

thick sierra
#

Me thinks

slow saddle
#

It sure is better than col for raid

#

Ngl if i raided with u, id tilt๐Ÿคฃ

indigo quail
#

At least i have M+

slow saddle
#

I mean 1st boss 2nd boss 3rd.boss 4th boss

shy oyster
#

this is why you never really linger on the bad sides of your chosen class/spec. its okay to meme and acknowledge it, but it aint gonna do u any favours if u take it seriously to heart. ๐Ÿคท

indigo quail
slow saddle
#

U can play col and fuxk

#

I mean casual. They still carrying u๐Ÿ˜…

#

Dont u wanna play tge best u can?

feral breach
#

Colasual

thick sierra
indigo quail
slow saddle
#

Ofc

indigo quail
#

If i wamted to be top dps

slow saddle
#

But perform as well as u can

thick sierra
#

This is low cortisol vs high cortisol rn

indigo quail
#

I would not be playing Arms warrior

slow saddle
#

On a class u lovw

thick sierra
#

This sete guy is low cortisol as fuck

#

Absolute Chad

indigo quail
shy oyster
#

we'd all be playing ret pally for the easy road, fellas, lets all agree on that.

slow saddle
#

Like ret prob tops dk

#

In most encounters due 2 design

bleak arrow
# indigo quail I would not be playing Arms warrior

You would not do any better on any other class if you put in the same effort. Trying to be better doesnโ€™t mean trying to be meta or wanting rank 100 logs but at least set your goals higher than the floor. I believe in you.

clever crag
#

Colo is on top spots dps

slow saddle
#

And dk is easy street

thick sierra
#

A real warrior never loses

clever crag
#

In mythic first boss

#

And others surely

thick sierra
#

A real warrior simply forces his way to the top

slow saddle
#

U have devos

slow saddle
#

Eatin

shy oyster
bleak arrow
slow saddle
#

Imma cook on paladins + dragons

flat willow
#

a real warrior picks his battle, just boycott the raid

#

and be top damage in m+

indigo quail
flat willow
#

๐Ÿง 

slow saddle
#

Atm we just had terrible raid, where chimera was a struggle

thick sierra
flat willow
#

can't see that the other specs are doing double your single target damage

#

if you only do aoe

indigo quail
#

Imagone playing slayer and being 5% smaller

thick sierra
#

Warriors donโ€™t rely on ignorance weโ€™re far smarter and more emotionally intelligent than any other class

indigo quail
#

The horror

winged phoenix
#

Hey am I tripping or does the warrior sound effects for abilities sound..empty and muted since the patch?

flat willow
#

warriors rely on ignore pain quite a lot, actually

winged phoenix
#

I swear my ears arent hearing things right

midnight minnow
#

why did blizzard remove the ability to track heroic might through the cooldown manager sadge

astral yarrow
#

Both dps specs should be pressing Ignore Pain on cd with how tuning is

thick sierra
lunar idol
#

Warriors enjoy pain

bleak arrow
thick sierra
slow saddle
#

Arms 10-15k st buff when?

kind stag
indigo quail
flat willow
astral yarrow
#

they probably didnt have proper branch management going into deployment is my guess

strange comet
#

Was there ever a blizzard response on the bleed bug. Saw a few classes already got hot fixed. Nothing about us

slow saddle
#

Just 10-15k baseline would solve a lot

thick sierra
kind stag
slow saddle
#

Flat dmg profiles shouldnt also sim horridly

flat willow
#

they actually didn't

slow saddle
#

Makes ni sense

flat willow
#

all the unholy bugs are still in the game

slow saddle
#

1 is fixxed

thick sierra
#

Theyโ€™re really busy guys! This is the most unrushed expac and patch cycle situation theyโ€™ve ever had!!

#

There are no bugs in Azeroth

bleak arrow
#

Iโ€™m just ready for my fist week ever playing arms. Full sent all the recrafts last night. Weโ€™re ready

slow saddle
#

Doesnt feel rushed

#

Just poorly made

flat willow
#

it's not rushed, just vibe coded

slow saddle
#

It worked on beta

#

Like i dno

thick sierra
#

Even better dander

winged phoenix
#

Did the sound effects for the class change since patch for anyone else? Every ability sounds emptier than before in terms of sound

flat willow
#

grok is writing the code for your favorite class

strange comet
indigo quail
#

Need to have a hear out for the kid and his shenanigans

bleak arrow
flat willow
#

but they didn't

slow saddle
#

We just got a shadownerf

#

Intended

#

Takes 2 long 2 fix

bleak arrow
#

When a bug becomes intended feature

flat willow
#

and he just doesn't make any sound

indigo quail
#

Does slam actually proc deep wounds atm?

slow saddle
#

Yes

astral yarrow
slow saddle
#

Just
Not from fervor

flat willow
slow saddle
#

So all prio dmg goon

#

Er

indigo quail
slow saddle
#

Y so we wont get more st

#

๐Ÿ˜…

bleak arrow
slow saddle
#

Tbh i pug

#

Turn down funnel

astral yarrow
#

warrior class fantasy just includes a bench bedge

slow saddle
#

Turn op st

#

100%

#

Mby survical hunter

#

It suddenly pumps

winged phoenix
indigo quail
#

Imma try slayer meta build tonight, ill feel dirty, but ill tell you guys how it went

loud mauve
#

Tbh Iโ€™m getting kinda tired of the fact we donโ€™t have any good st in any spec. Balancing is a huge joke this season (especially the 12.0.5 dh & dk buffs)
Running Chimerius myth with pugs is not an option unless I gather the raid myself, nobody needs a warrior dps, and I canโ€™t blame them

indigo quail
#

Never playing fury tho

slow saddle
#

I mean

#

I did๐Ÿฅฒ

#

Made me sad though

clever crag
#

Fury isnt much better

slow saddle
#

Exept thanw

#

Thane can clap

#

And feels like a real cd

#

Dmg is crappai

#

Tbh im at a point if

#

Just 1 talent tree 1 spec had dmg id be happy

granite swift
old ermine
#

Before reset Reap the Storm was doing about 30mil dmg in 14 now is doing 10mil is it nerfed or i just played bad

granite swift
#

And flowed naturally

granite swift
#

despite no change to sudden death proc rate

old ermine
#

i thought im going crazy

slow saddle
#

Id take spammin slam 30% of the time

granite swift
#

and i dont mean dumb down the spec but, shit like pressing cleave between 35 and 20% is what

slow saddle
#

Arms just lacks rage

paper gulch
slow saddle
paper gulch
#

Beat your girl or something

#

Infinite rage

slow saddle
#

Shes scary

#

So no

flat willow
old ermine
frigid jewel
#

Deep wounds with cleave crit MS still not fixed either

flat willow
#

it was just worded in a way that confused people

fiery vine
#

Considering that change , is Slayer still viable over Colossus?

paper gulch
#

If you play what you like well youโ€™ll be able to enjoy it

fiery vine
#

I keep getting blamed for low ST damage as Col, which is kinda lame

flat willow
#

you won't be enjoying slayer a lot in m+

paper gulch
#

I for one, would much rather play colossus

frigid jewel
fiery vine
#

Thats what i thought x)

#

Thanks

frigid jewel
#

Only "fix" is a consistent team willing to pull adds into a boss to give you funnel

indigo quail
#

Gains

slow saddle
#

Me

frigid jewel
#

Im just praying both arms and fury get a giga aura buff before the season's almost over

frigid jewel
#

And for the love of FUCK take sweeping strikes off the GC

frigid jewel
#

Sweeping strikes off GC, cleave/whirlwind applies rend, give be banners back, take bloodlust from hunters and give it to us as a warhorn

umbral badger
#

guys, ever since 12.0.5 plume have been simming MUCH higher for colossus than gaze >.<

#

so what now ?

#

lol

#

i have to play 2 specs one needs gaze and one needs plume >.<

lusty brook
thorn stream
#

something feels of about reap from cleave in aoe

#

can't be the missing ms reaps

umbral badger
icy mulch
#

Any update on bug fixes?

untold vault
#

Why is gaze of the alnseer on the bis list? It literally sims worse than skyreach trinket lol

dim basalt
thorn stream
#

not the wounds loss

strange comet
#

Since when does gaze get outsimmed by prism? I swear I simmed that last week

umbral badger
charred flicker
#

weapon from pit is BiS for arms correct?

loud mauve
old ermine
#

this is from 15 before Reap was doing double dmg

vapid spire
#

We need an ST Buff

flat willow
#

i mean yeah, you pressed ms almost as much as you pressed cleave even in aoe

#

and you lost the 4th cleave after cs

soft parcel
untold vault
umbral badger
#

bruuuv now that plume is this good for colossus i want it so baaaaaaaaaaaaaaad

umbral badger
old ermine
#

my second trinket sucks

umbral badger
#

so maybe now colossus wnats solarflare from mythics and wants plume from raid

flat willow
#

no way the football trinket is better

old ermine
#

i dont have luck with trinkets just yesteday i got puzzle box

chilly wind
#

Is arms very comp dependant? Like sham and Monk needed? Trying to decide on a dps alt. Arms and Demo Are my Favorits

flat willow
#

just get the crucible trinket from voidstorm's reputation

soft parcel
strange comet
#

Well shit I think I had a heroic plume in vault this week didn't even think about taking it cause I had gaze and heart

flat willow
#

it's stuck at ilvl 263 but it has to be better than your second trinket

flat willow
#

shaman is very needed yes

#

or you will end up doing the same damage as your tank on single target

#

on top of wanting to disconnect cuz you won't have rage to press any button

soft parcel
#

that's why i choose slayer if there's no shammy

chilly wind
#

Oh okay, maybe demo would be the better choice for pug keys?๐Ÿ˜…

soft parcel
flat willow
#

I mean, arms is very fun in keys, but it has its downsides

loud mauve
#

why exactly is gaze simming less?
I see couple of people reporting it here already, what changed to cause that?
Wasn't it BiS along with Heart from 2nd boss?

untold vault
#

Its plume and the heart of ancient hunger.

chilly wind
#

Yeah feels kinda fun. But sometimes in some packs my dmg is quite Low and I dont know why

indigo quail
#

At what point should i cap my crit?

strange comet
flat willow
#

yes crit is more valuable since your cdr on demolish was buffed

#

at least for col

indigo quail
#

im using this one currently

untold vault
#

I did the sims before the patch, i need to redo them for 12.0.5. This fiber one is new to me, got to include.

indigo quail
#

Along with this

#

Having trouble finding haste gear. All the shit that drops is mastery

latent basin
#

Are we still bugged ?

dim basalt
#

yes

latent basin
#

Damn , Im currently progging on vanguard and it sucks to not see bleeds

still cove
#

Iโ€™m a prot warrior who has drafted both 1h and shield with mythic crests.

I want to switch to Arms now that Iโ€™ve hit 3k. Is it better if I try to get a weapon drop from a m+ for now and then pray for a mythic lvl weapon from vault? Or should I just wait 2 weeks and craft a 2h?

vapid spire
#

You gonna do more damage as prot warrior ๐Ÿ˜‚

dim basalt
still cove
#

Arms pumps idk what your on about

boreal bay
#

Arms is one of the best dps in m+ lol

pulsar hollow
#

Isnt it bugged now ๐Ÿ‘€

feral breach
#

What isnt

quasi sapphire
#

Is arms rarer compared with fury? Don't see alot in lfg tbh

vapid spire
pulsar hollow
#

Ahahah keks

feral breach
#

It always says card declined, must be bugged aswellsadge

feral breach
#

Blizzard steals my last 13 dollars, please send help

plain violet
pulsar hollow
#

But its much harder hitter than Fury right?

fervent cedar
#

In M+ yes

fervent cedar
indigo quail
#

You can play demo lock. Or be an absolute chad and play arms

safe island
#

princess arms need prince

crimson cairn
#

I am guessing we are still riding the mortal wounds bug wave and its not yet been fixed?

chilly wind
slow saddle