arms

[ionic mica]

and try to be near one whilst you hit boss

arms would suck for add killing

do you mean the bleed not working?

[sudden owl]

ya

[ionic mica]

not sure why it isnt in the wowhead article but it is known and im sure reported in some way #updates-midnight message

[languid torrent]

👍

[ionic mica]

archi does a lot of wowhead stuff so id assume it has been passed on somewhere

[sudden owl]

ya i saw it there but its not on the wowhead article so it wont get fixed..............

[ionic mica]

you could write whatever you like in the wowhead article

wont matter if the guy at blizz doesnt hit warrior when he rolls the dice

[sudden owl]

i cannot i am not a wowhead affiliated writer

[ionic mica]

*one could write whatever one likes

[sudden owl]

my bug reports get filtered through copilot and never go where they are supposed to do

instead we must rely on the news website to basically @ the cs team so they do something

what's left of the cs team anyway

[shy dagger]

As someone who works in QA for video games, its baffling the state of wow

[ionic mica]

every patch "this is the worst release they have ever done"

somehow they top it every time 😄

i was about to paste an Ion quote a guildy sent and its in the latest wowhead post

[languid torrent]

i wouldnt say this is the worst patch they have done

[ionic mica]

Ion Hazzikostas, via TheGameBusiness said:
"Midnight will be the fastest expansion we’ve ever made in terms of the gap between expansions,” he says. “We’ve had a regular eight-week content updates all along the way. No corners cut, no compromises in terms of what we’re delivering, and no sacrifices to quality.

[languid torrent]

i think it was undermine .5 patch. that shit was BAD

[ionic mica]

i was mostly being hyperbolic, tbf i dont remember 11.1.5 being good or bad

[languid torrent]

i remember it simply because im pretty sure we didnt raid that tuesday

[rare kite]

worst patch they've done is 10.1.5 it introduced aug for longlasting effects. and for short term effect it ruined the balance of m+, godcomp 4 keylevels above anything else

[coral bluff]

whats the crack guys? just played a slayer arms 16 academy and it felt like dogshit compared to last patch, do we play colossus only now or what? swear the 20% proc chance off cleaving 3 or more targets is actually 2% not 20

[ionic mica]

oh for sure but that all worked at least

like the game functioned

[rare kite]

yes. col everywhere

[ionic mica]

ignoring the terrible design choices

[rare kite]

tru tru

[ionic mica]

like the bonus roll system is bugged, crafting is re-bugged, loads of random class bugs have appeared

[coral bluff]

sucks bro it was actually fun last patch now feels ass to play, fury slayer feels ass too from these reap changes

[ionic mica]

ignoring the questionable balancing choices 😄

its a good thing arms is so much fun

[rose matrix]

Can you even refer to it as balancing anymore

[wooden berry]

are we sending demolish without CS now?

[rare kite]

yea it is what it is. i don't mind col for the most part, only problem is on opener if unlucky get rage starved

[ionic mica]

you can either always hold it, or send demo on cd if cs had more than 10s on cd

[coral bluff]

is it the same colos talents as before?

[rare kite]

yes

[ashen trout]

do you guys macro guidon with warbreaker or avatar?

[coral bluff]

ite will give it a go see how it does this patch cheers, shame colos boss dmg sucks so much

[rare kite]

it's not that bad anymore st wise

it's obviously not great but not THAT bad anymore

[nova marsh]

It still feels awful without going in at 10 stacks

[ionic mica]

i did a couple of pits for crests and bonus roll token and it felt fine sending on cd

it comes back up so fast its mad

you think it has too long on cd, you hit 10 stacks, you sweep an MS and oh cool its back

cs extends so much it all works out fine

[languid torrent]

yea but like 3 cleaves + MS sweeping it still pipes

[wooden berry]

im sending on cd

[nova marsh]

I meant for st

[languid torrent]

oh yea shits beans

[fringe leaf]

anyone else run sims for arms vs fury and fury wins the sims but arms wins in practice?

[rose ibex]

Damn. I kinda liked slayer fury and was happy improved ww applied rend

[sweet pivot]

hii, are there any new talent builds for this patch? cant find anything but im probably not looking in the right place

or nothing really changed and talents stay the same

[solemn fractal]

So Mortal Wounds talent is broken?

[sudden owl]

for slayer m+/aoe you can take the overpower talent choice instead of the mortal strike one in the slayer tree

[rancid robin]

It "works" on MS / slam

But it does NOT work on the slam that get launch by cleave

[sudden owl]

thats the only change for talents i saw

[solemn fractal]

Okay

[sweet pivot]

but is the slayer a go to hero spec still for dungs like skyreach?

[solemn fractal]

[sudden owl]

that is subjective still probably i do not like playing collosus if my tank isn't good

[rose ibex]

You can take slayer everywhere tbh

Colossus does better if your tank is pulling adds to bosses and the pulls are more organized in general

But if you are shooting from the hip slayer is probably more consistent despite rng procs

[keen turtle]

guys how much we lose with deep wounds bug?

[knotty charm]

Is this the worst iteration of arms of all time?

just in terms of design?

this is insane how bad execute phase feels in raid

[coral bluff]

i've played warr for years, for me this patch they feel in a pretty bad state to alot of other classes, can log my lock and do 30-50k more overall easy

[rose ibex]

Cleave comboing is fun

Procs are fun

[shadow osprey]

I mean i don't think the design is "that bad" but our tuning is just shit and we don't have a real good identity

[blissful tinsel]

Warrior is in such a bad spot in raid especially, just benchmaxxing

[shadow osprey]

I mean we can go back to the other days when you would pray for colossus smash procs and if you didn't get them you are dead in the water

[rose ibex]

Arms has always been a mish mash of legacy content the designers dont want to let go of

It needs a real identity

Not this "sweeping strikes 2 target, execute phase, bleed big hits whatever" guy

[rare kite]

that's tww arms by far for me. not even close, nothing can compare to juggernaut highrolling bullshit. "oh did you get good rng and entered execute phase at high/max stacks?" no? get fucked idiot now you do no damage in comparison

[knotty charm]

the amount of rage starving, having to hold execute in execute phase, pooling rage

it just feels awful to play arms

[kindred breach]

Which execute phase ?

[rose ibex]

Right? Its the "buff mortal strike with execute" phase

[knotty charm]

and in m+ its decent, but unless the tank is pulling trash into boss, single target is shit too

[kindred breach]

[rose ibex]

Gotta let it go

[kindred breach]

Tfw execute phase is actually a trap and rage starves you

[rose ibex]

The legacy class content stops arms from having real identity

[ionic mica]

is all i would want is a bit more rage and MS/exe to do a little more damage

which maybe is a lot of change to ask for

[kindred breach]

MS does good damage if it crits

[rose ibex]

I like archi's vision of arms

[kindred breach]

If not then it’s auto attack level

[rose ibex]

Big charged mega hits

Giant aoe slams

[ionic mica]

sounds like it doesnt do good damage then 🙂

[rose ibex]

Hit really hard big time, vs fury's hit thing lots super fast

[kindred breach]

Yeah whole spec is a modifier fiesta

Disgusting shit tbh

[rose ibex]

A lot of crit dependant mods

[ionic mica]

eh good thing we crit a lot

[rose ibex]

Crit crit crit

[ionic mica]

i just want a bit more rage, without it becoming rage overflow

and idk like 10% more ST from ST buttons

[magic canopy]

Greeting fellows arms gamers

[rose ibex]

HI

[magic canopy]

as you have arms and not legs i would reccomend a look at your hands

your fingers in particular

[rose ibex]

Oh you're the guy who made that rotation video at the start of expansion

[magic canopy]

the buffed 2% crit damage enchant was a 1300 dps gain for me and might be for you as well i would reccomend you sim

[rose ibex]

That helped me a lot

[ionic mica]

eagles eye goes hard

[magic canopy]

i did not make up the dps gain i promise

[kindred breach]

I think the only way to get rid of the feast or famine problem is by removing rage on auto attacks and just introduce builders, maybe slam becomes a builder

[rare kite]

gain as fury as well. big good enchant

[knotty charm]

madox is awesome, i love his videos

[ionic mica]

current setup with 10 rage gen on overpower would probably be fine

and make windfury auto procs our talent not a raid buff xD

[rose ibex]

Good dude that Madox

[magic canopy]

i am but a goober

[rose ibex]

One of us

[shadow osprey]

What are your sim parameters? 5 min st?

[vast hinge]

Does that mean dwarf race is goated?

[magic canopy]

5min ST

idk i play nelf for M+

and how the armor looks

[rose ibex]

Tauren race is goated

[ionic mica]

now madox is the goat

[thin adder]

I play Dwarf becasue Dwarfs are the coolest race

[rose ibex]

Dwarves are indeed very cool

[ionic mica]

played enough dwarf as a shaman, got bored of playing a little square person

cant see your mogs

[vast hinge]

I’m playing a gnome for PvP previously but kinda deciding between a race change to dwarf nelf or panda for m+

[rose ibex]

I like being a little garbage can

[magic canopy]

Fem nelf is as close as you can get to normal human male armor appearance, with having decent racials

[shadow osprey]

Idm dwarf only problem is being alliance

[rose ibex]

But i like being a monstrous moo cow more

[ionic mica]

ngl mogging a human paladin is peak

[vast hinge]

Nelf is the better mog appearance lol so leaning toward that

[ionic mica]

the game is built for you to look cool

[magic canopy]

this is the current fit

[rose ibex]

Big sword

[vast hinge]

Asscandy

[magic canopy]

bad lighting for the image, but i like it

[rose ibex]

I gotta represent the ashkandi myself

Classic bwl sword

[rose ibex]

Perfection

[magic canopy]

brewfest kilt nice

[olive nest]

I too rock the Ashkually

[magic canopy]

i like big sword

[olive nest]

Best sword all day

[magic canopy]

what can i say

[olive nest]

I wear the one that matches mythic juggernaut set

And also cool guy glasses instead of the jug helmet

Basic xdd

[magic canopy]

too many of the warrior helms are goofy

i end up always wearing something else

[rose ibex]

Warrior sets are usually goofy

[magic canopy]

undermine set was a decent helmet tho

[olive nest]

Glasses so my guy can see better

Xddd

[rose ibex]

I wear a hodge podge of heritage armour and dark steel with a big ol totem on my back

[sand totem]

Oh I vibe with that title.

[frigid jewel]

So what's the consensus on how bad this mortal wounds bug is impacting dps? Trying to figure out if I can blame it, or a skill issue on a decent loss in DPS on dummies with Colossus since the patch

[polar sundial]

when im gearing a completly fresh alt warrior. do i sim if i go double linen asap on it and craft normal weapon without embelishment?

[rose ibex]

Only weaklings cower in the face of bugs

[shadow osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/sam-mandigo-sam-gainss-suicide-grip-death-grip-bench-press-gif-6001095411438425158

Me when i see my guildies sims in our audit sheet

[urban fjord]

feels like im doing less damage since tuesday

[hybrid needle]

6% or something?

[wooden berry]

is everything bugged, arms, my ddh... what is blizz doing

[edgy canyon]

anyone know what addon makes /wa open your CDM

[nova marsh]

Even outlaw is bugged

In the dumbest way

[wooden berry]

im sure mages are fine

[fair tinsel]

Yea this change isn't it

Revert pls

ppl don't invite colo for the st anyway, let us just fucking have the niche

[kind stag]

and i dont either, theres a good chance its a terrorist

nah im kidding

or am i

[shadow osprey]

Ftfy

[kind stag]

warrior lyfe

[rose ibex]

All the outlaws have terrible gas now

They cant help but let it rip everytime they get in a fight

[kind stag]

did outlaw get giga buffed or is it bliz being goofy

[rose ibex]

Trickster did

Trickster got buffed and outlaw utilizes that buff the best. Its like a 10% or more dps increase

[kind stag]

jesus

im sorry to all rogue players who have to swap to that shitass spec

[wooden berry]

hows the playstyle now? easier?

[fair tinsel]

ngl if that ends up true I celebrate

I hate colo

esp with this change

It doesn't feel smoother at all since you only send demos into cs

just less dam

[kind stag]

i dont hate colo but ngl lot of colo players (all 3 ive seen) seem to watch biz on youtube and think they are him

[dry wharf]

bro fr trickster is so dogshit

[kind stag]

outlaw is dogshit

how did that spec not get scrapped yet is insane

[dry wharf]

i just want df season 3 outlaw back

[kind stag]

bliz stubborn as heck

[fair tinsel]

bring back combat swords

I want my sword proc animation spins back

troll male sword proc= full goofy ass spin

[frigid jewel]

guilty as charged

[kind stag]

respect

[wooden berry]

i just gave biz my prime sub today

[kind stag]

i gave it to pilav because i was bored and watched hjim whine for an hour

then i remembered i hate twitch so i decided to watch yugioh related videos instead

[frigid jewel]

but the day my glorious Fury is restored will be the day i return home

[kind stag]

buff devourer

thjey are not gapping me enough

[frigid jewel]

but im glad our dps was donated to DHs and Unholy

im honestly shocked Ret didn't get another buff

[shy dew]

don't say it, or they'll close their discord and receive another 20% buff

[sudden owl]

anyone here use atrocity ui still? is it any good this patch/in midnight?

[scarlet garnet]

my audio still bugged. alot of swooshing and now clinking and clonking. any ideas on fixes

[polar sundial]

can someone tell me pls do i still hold CS now or no for demolish. or just press on cd all?

[rose matrix]

Holding is higher dps for the most part but not a big difference

[solid hemlock]

so with this patch i send demolish on CD correct? dont need to worry about doing it after smash?

[minor gust]

wowhead is updated for 12.05 priority

[solid hemlock]

👍 👍

oh nothing changed it seems

[slate talon]

Watching Critcake play today, he would send like 1 Demo+Smash then send like a Demo, then send an Avatar+Smash, then they'd sync back up

I'm not entirely certain on the min max but when I asked he didn't say anything super specific on timings

[vast helm]

Bugs World

[rose matrix]

Sometimes I would send a demo without cs if it was at the end of a pack and I wouldn't get to used the cs anyways

[stable fiber]

im doing actual dps in p1

this build owns

omg

6th on boss dps in p1 with the funnel build...

[knotty orchid]

AI slop patch

[timid elk]

Yep

[runic heath]

colossus feels awful rn

[reef prairie]

what are you playing lura

i have no idea what im supposed to play to be useful on this boss lmfao

[soft parrot]

how much y'all be simming on single target?

[wind hatch]

im simming like 93.6k at 282 ilvl

[soft parrot]

i'm 277 and i sim like 86k, while my monk and warlock friends sim close to 100k around the same ilvl 😭

[wind hatch]

arms single target is just bad

[stable fiber]

its either full ST or funnel cleave

fob with cleave

if you have people blowing the crystals up you can play full st

[surreal spade]

so for dungeons slayer or colossus are superior right now ?

[reef prairie]

our crystal damage seems bad

[stable fiber]

funnel cleave

slayer

[wind hatch]

Colossus is generally better

if crystal damage is bad funnel is even better

[reef prairie]

i'll give that a try

ty

[foggy citrus]

soo, with our bonus rolls the Nebulous Voidcores, I did a 10 Pit and looked at the loot I would recieve from the roll, and the Garfrost 2h wasn't on there? do we not get that from the vault or?

[reef glade]

were u in prot lootspec?

[foggy citrus]

So I was... but it also allows you to change it and shows the Icon when you change loot specs, the loot also changed, available loot.

[reef glade]

[foggy citrus]

so can we not get that hammer from using voidcores in Pit then?

[boreal bay]

I did get hammer last night using bonus roll

[foggy citrus]

really? hmm okay. it didn't show availble for me weird.

Ill run it again as arms then, but when you change loot spec the available loot it says you get also changes, and I didn't see the hammer.

[boreal bay]

I didn't even check if it was in the in-game list for the bonus roll lmao. I assumed it was, and well, I got lucky I got it on my first coin

[foggy citrus]

I'm trusting you lol

[lean geode]

duality of man

[wispy valve]

beyblade build or ravager for AA?

[wispy perch]

anyone's dps in M+ as colossus less after the patch?

[wind hatch]

i got the hammer too

so you can definitely get it

[reef glade]

def should be there but it might be something similar to end of dungeon chest rewards and your bonus roll loot is "locked" the moment u finish a dungeon as that loot spec

[sudden lynx]

is it possible to take off embellishments?

[reef glade]

like finishing as prot and swapping to dps wont change the loot that already spawned in your chest its like predetermined so youll still get prot loot maybe if that dropped in chest

rolls could be the same

[jade ember]

Yes, you recraft them with the embellishment that says "+1 sparkle"

[crude sonnet]

Yeah we lost a free cleave after smash which is a little loss.

[sudden lynx]

tyty

[keen parcel]

Is there a downside to playing two passive trinkets in m+ outside of the procs being unreliable?

[wispy perch]

I assumed the more frequent demo would've made up for it 🙁

[rapid bronze]

let's fucking go heroic beloren

[minor gust]

There isn't any downside to passive trinkets in M+ besides fight specific events like dmg amp phases you need to send cooldowns for. Most procs will proc relatively quickly when starting combat. And with long combat time from higher keys everything avgs out.

[wind hatch]

the crit amp diamond is now simming a whole 50 dps higher for me than the strength one

huge

god I need raidbots premium

[keen parcel]

Thank you! Im trying to plan out my bonus rolls since i dont have an actual raid team lol.

[urban fjord]

beyblade, cant afford to do tank dps on boss in AA

[minor gust]

if you dont have a guild to raid with give pugging a shot especially as the season progresses. the first 2 bosses and Chim arent that difficult and 2 of them have really good trinkets with heart and gaze

[rose matrix]

Just make sure when you get in a group for Voidspire it is specifically first two

[wary raft]

pugging chim for me has been an absolute nightmare this week

[leaden garnet]

At what point do powerful eversong diamonds become stronger than indecipherable eversong diamond, if ever?

[latent moss]

same

[crude sonnet]

I found cleave to be a big portion of my damage, so losing a charge was a pretty big impact imo even with a demo buff.

[neon shale]

Whenbugfix, after they add new bidet decor?

[latent moss]

to the point

i legit couldnt kill it

after like 2 hours of pugging

[wary raft]

idk why man either tanks dont walk away from the adds or people cant kick

[latent moss]

people dying to random shit too

[wary raft]

yeah I have like 3x the pulls it took my guild to kill it pugging today and yesterday

[latent moss]

i need to find a passion run

but i aint tight like that with them anymore

gg

[minor gust]

at least chim is a new raid instance

so like you can keep trying

[latent moss]

ye

[minor gust]

instead of killing first boss and then failing 2nd all night till grp disbands

[latent moss]

ye i did vorasius in a passion run

[latent moss]

what the helly

ret doesnt have shield of vengeance anymore

i mean it does but its passive with dp

that sucks no

u only have one defensive kinda

wtf are warriors man defensively

ig bubble is 3.5min

but stil

l

[minor gust]

Clearly we are undertuned because we have a great defensive toolkit

[latent moss]

nah but how broken is warrior defensively actually

i thought ret still had shield of vengeance + dp + insane passive defensives

but it just doesnt?

[stable fiber]

bro holy fuck

these spam lua errors

[latent moss]

ye its so bad

[languid torrent]

its really bad

[latent moss]

it started happening out of nowhere for me

plater spamming my chat

[storm pendant]

Hey Gang, I seem to be having horrendous DPS number lag, and no sound q's on half my arms albitites.... its fucking unplayable tbh... but arms seems to be the only class its fucking up on... anyone have this issue? know a fix? not sure if I missed a pin.

[languid torrent]

PATCH DAY

yea no its bad

[storm pendant]

alright thanks man

just didnt know if I was going crazy tbh

[jovial hare]

so im hearing this patch is some the worst execution of a patch in recent history

[high belfry]

im having the same problem, idk how to fix unfort

[timid elk]

It's one of the patches of all time

[jovial hare]

glad my pc isnt running right now
I'd prob get irate
waiting on a processor bracket atm

[wind hatch]

bugs everywhere

last night people in my raid were getting randomly dced mid pull for like 30 mins

[latent moss]

@stable fiber hoooly trinket

[jovial hare]

time to get this hit with a level cap

[nova marsh]

Irrc that was like

Bis for a dps spec in shadowlands

[stable fiber]

what is that

[storm pendant]

yeah sucks man appreciate the feedback though... seems like I'm not the only one... so odd cause my DK is fine lol

[latent moss]

blackrook hold

trinket

from s3 df

im doing some catch up shit

jumpscare

[latent moss]

s3 df

from blackrook hold

was a very good trinket

insane stat budget it just gave infinite vers

i played it on dps warr

and by that point we were mega astro dring in other stats so vers was an insane stat

[minor gust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1314374602285125712/1380938748677722223/WhyTheFuckHaveYouBeenDrinkingSoMuchMilkIfYouKnewYouWereLactoseIntolerantJesusChristDude.gif

[wary raft]

I saved a shitload of these in my bank I look back and remember how badly I wanted to shoot myself. good times

[sudden owl]

looking at what ppl are playing on crown this week and i am able to capture this gem

worlds strongest warrior vs worlds weakest ret

[quaint oracle]

Question: Does the 25% global cooldown penalty from Single-Button Assistant only happen if you actually use it or will it apply just from having it out on your bars, even if you never touch it?

[wind hatch]

it applies when you press it i think

and only for the global after you press it

[frigid jewel]

Picked the literal worst time to return to this game, man

harrowing image

[minor gust]

depends what you value

if you primarily do keys right now is a great time

[limber badger]

is slayer dead? I feel like i am doing 20% less than others in my 17s, 18s.... are there bugs or do we just have to play colossus and suffer dog ST?

[quaint oracle]

is that something you know for certain or you think that's how it works? i ask because i did x8 4min tests on a target dummy earlier and every time i was getting about -10k dps from simply having the one-button assistant thing on my bars, never actually using it, wondering if i just messed up the tests or if that's actually how it works

[jade ember]

the diff between Slarms and Colo is bigger now than before at least yea

[limber badger]

but like

I was keeping up with my surv in my group last week and i know they got buffs but i am just BEING GAPPED yesterday and today

[frigid jewel]

Survival got giga buffed

[green wraith]

Anyone around 275 gs on arms show me a screenshot of dmg done to the group of target dummies

[green wraith]

Want to see the dps difference compared to my fury mountain thane

[limber badger]

man i do not want to do tank ST on colossus.... ngl lol

[jade ember]

if youre pushing its prolly gonna be a hard sell to give up Colo cleave since Slarms took that hit

I like Slarms more too

[frail helm]

Slarms was super fun

[limber badger]

def more fun and faster

[frail helm]

Most fun form of warrior this tier

Good thing it got nerfed

[pulsar frost]

is academy slayer key still?

[green wraith]

You guys saying arms is better than thane or slayer?

[frail helm]

Arms is better than fury in keys

[hybrid needle]

Im saying arms is slayer

[frail helm]

But fury is still fine

As thane at least

[nova marsh]

Just had an arms boy in my key

He smashed it

[hybrid needle]

But did he... demolish

[frail helm]

And did he slam it

Did he strike that key, heroically?

[wind hatch]

if it is just giving the gcd penalty when its on your bars it should be very obvious

[nova marsh]

Yes

Holy fuck

[green wraith]

How bad is the difference? Between them both? Percentage wise? Worth changing if not more than at least 10% more

[nova marsh]

SO FUCKING CLOSE MAN

[hybrid needle]

So heee.. executed a good rotation

[frail helm]

You can play either, people will continue to do high keys on both

[hybrid needle]

I wanna see the dmg now

[nova marsh]

No

[frail helm]

Slayer more helpful in bosses, col more helpful in packs

[nova marsh]

cuz I did trash

[rose ibex]

it's weird that this goofy banner sims better than gaze

but i guess it's pure single target

[urban fjord]

what ilvl is that gaze for it to be losing

[hybrid needle]

Thats ok. I am trash.

[green wraith]

I just can’t seem to hit those 600k to 1m dmg per pull like some of these other classes I peak at 380k on pulls

[nova marsh]

I legit

cannot play trickster lol

[hybrid needle]

Thats ok. Just crop arms dmg only

[frail helm]

Those other classes aren't target capped

[rose matrix]

The classes that go that high usually fall while Arms stays consistent too

You also get a massive boost at the end of the packs

[urban fjord]

unless its dev dh and it just does that much the entire time

[minor gust]

then keep playing slarms the spec still owns. Playing what you enjoy vs something you dont like is a dps buff. Only time you should feel forced to play colo is when your in a conistent group that can give you funnel on any possible boss.

[rose ibex]

my guidon makes me feel i should be playing colo

[green wraith]

Other problem my thane single target is trash. I should be at 90k plus on ST but I find myself at 50 to 60’s

What are you guys looking at on single target

[quaint oracle]

anyone willing to do a little test and go hit a target dummy for science?

[green wraith]

I want to see too!!!!

[urban fjord]

i ended first boss seat at 70k

[green wraith]

Please join discord and share screen!!!! I’m invested

[rose ibex]

i sim 80k and get 70k usually

except on varrasius which i destroy on

[abstract crow]

Just finished lvling warr. Arms feel clunkier than TWW version. Is it normal?

[green wraith]

Is that with buffs or no buffs?

[frigid jewel]

yes

[rose ibex]

full raid buffs and stuff

[patent cairn]

How does the funnel Part Work on Bosses exactly tho

[abstract crow]

Does it feel better with more stats/ilvl?

[frigid jewel]

big time

[covert nest]

I'm in the same boat. It's so frustrating

[frigid jewel]

still clunky compared to other specs IMO but it gets better

[abstract crow]

Thx bro!

[jade ember]

Just make sure to complain about every key you have to do without a shaman buff

[nova marsh]

Idk how good this is for a 14 sr

[abstract crow]

The sound of pressing slam/heroicstrike feels like shit too lolol

[nova marsh]

They were colo thou

[rose matrix]

I find it funny how quick Blizzard is to fix bugs that increase dps but not the ones that decrease dps

[frigid jewel]

swap to Unholy and you get immediate fixes

[green wraith]

Sims has me like this full buffs ST

[frigid jewel]

still no hotfix for the cleave crit deep wound bug lol

[jade ember]

honestly seems like some classes have it a lot worse than us

but everything is freakin crazy rn

[jade ember]

most spahett code patch ever

[shadow osprey]

Aside from bugs and classes that can switch to other specs, to whom are you referring?

[frigid jewel]

frost dk

[green wraith]

8 targets btw…

[jade ember]

seemed like locks have 4-5 bugs rn, not as familiar tho

[shadow osprey]

Aside from bugs or classes that can switch

Because the bugs will be fixed I'm sure

And after they do it will be fine

And if a class can switch to another spec that is performing well that's on them

[hard dragon]

Dude, I'm struggling super hard rn to improve on col

[jade ember]

i mean i was replying to the gooch guy specifically talking about bugs

[hard dragon]

Idk what it is

[shadow osprey]

My apologies

[jade ember]

no big

[fair tinsel]

So uh, is rep trinket a sim trap? It's outsimming mythic alnseer

yet in warcraft logs and the bis list it's showing m alnseer use

My only assumption is I lack crit yet

[rose matrix]

You guys think Slayer is still better for AA

[fair tinsel]

it's also showing shadow belo trinket slapping all trinkets

hard

my crit's 21.59% haste 26.06

[shadow osprey]

You need some crit

[fair tinsel]

correction, 30.91% crit

[shadow osprey]

Okay whew

[fair tinsel]

gearset didn't swap me

[shadow osprey]

I was scared lol

[fair tinsel]

30.91% crit and 20.43% haste

yet belo trinket and rep seem to be my best

only guess is ppl using alns since they have them

I don't see many warrs getting into m belos yet

[shadow osprey]

Maybe but that rep trinket is still pretty cracked if you have all three of the procs unlocked

[fair tinsel]

but that doesn't answer the rep trinket simming well

unless it's a simtrap somehow

or it's truly just that overbudget

Maybe at 289 it balances out, am 279.25

so nowhere near bis

[shadow osprey]

Also are you just simming single target?

[fair tinsel]

st and aoe

1tar 5m and 10tar 40s

[slow saddle]

And spec?

[fair tinsel]

colo arms

[slow saddle]

Hm y colo arms seem to love crit

[fair tinsel]

It's just absurdly favoring belo trinket/rep trinket over m alnseer

[slow saddle]

M belo is insane

[fair tinsel]

literal 5 digit increase for me in aoe

[slow saddle]

Keep in mind in sims

It always starts at max stacks

So u will get 1 full send

[fair tinsel]

That makes far more sense

I wish warriors worked well with dungeon route sims

[slow saddle]

Fam tbh

[fair tinsel]

it's the primary reason I am simming

[slow saddle]

I juat do 5m st

Which wins

[frail helm]

I'm not super sure how sims work, but 40s may not even get you an alnseer proc?

[slow saddle]

Trinkets i mainly just use bis items

[fair tinsel]

Well from the 5tar st angle looks like I am using rep+m belo tbh

at least til I bonus an alnseer or some shit

[slow saddle]

Makes sense

[fair tinsel]

will also dummy test the hell out of them as well, etc

[slow saddle]

I use mythic heart

[fair tinsel]

every angle

[slow saddle]

And guidon

Hc

[fair tinsel]

tryna get m heart

I rolled into the ring though, pretty rad

big crit

the versa is a shame, but crit is crit

[slow saddle]

Y i use the set

Sims higher for me and versa free

[fair tinsel]

I have H set for fury, and m vora ring/heroic aa ring for arms

[vast hinge]

Do we go for the nexus rings as BIS? or would having the Pit ring (Crit/Haste) be better?

[fair tinsel]

trying to keep my gear seperate since some fights fury is better

[vast hinge]

Sims seem to prefer nexus ring set

but thats for single target?

[fair tinsel]

arms ideal set wants me using m vora+heroic set crit ring

[slow saddle]

Get 1 more set🥰

[fair tinsel]

but fk that for 400 dps

[fair tinsel]

Yea real glad to have to, tbh

wish arms was the play from week1, then I would be square

[slow saddle]

I mean nothin is the play

[fair tinsel]

vacuumed fury gear fast early only to go "k arms m+ I guess"

[slow saddle]

Warrior is super cooked

[fair tinsel]

nothing is a play as dps warr atm, they gotta start looking at logs

99 for dps warr= 50 for meta slop

[slow saddle]

Yup

As said before st tuning is sooooo bad

And cleave is overtunrd

[fair tinsel]

need some dps warrs to bribe gms into march of quel raids so blizz can have their "full data"

to fix us

[slow saddle]

Keep in mind fob has 2 increase our hs // slam with 50%

So remove that

[fair tinsel]

oh right, I gotta go to a dummy and see if that's still bugged

[slow saddle]

And just increase slam // hsbwith 50%

[fair tinsel]

If it is I guess fury week

[frigid jewel]

not in any of today's hotfixes

[fair tinsel]

Yea I seen fuckall for fix

[slow saddle]

Not even noted thst there is a bug

😆

[frigid jewel]

nope lol

[fair tinsel]

fury week in m+ maybe, idk how much dam that bug is

[frigid jewel]

decent i think

[slow saddle]

I mean i still do loads of dmg

[shadow osprey]

6-8% was being thrown around

[nova marsh]

WARRIOR T IME

[slow saddle]

They aoe nerf on top of this is felr

[fair tinsel]

6-8= yea I def fury this shit

tbh I liked colo more before this change

demo reset feels w/e since you just send it into warbreakers anyway

[frigid jewel]

when I practice Col on targets, I'm dealing 10-15k less sustain on the cleave group after this patch

[urban fjord]

yeah it feels bad

[fair tinsel]

maybe I swing more slayer keys idk lmao

[frigid jewel]

but Devourer needed a 10% buff so they had to take the 3rd cleave

and our deep wounds apparently

[slow saddle]

U do realise slayers more cooked

[wind hatch]

its more of a single target thing

[shadow osprey]

Yeah slayer got backhanded into next century

[wind hatch]

since now u have it for every cs in st

[fair tinsel]

I'm just looking to escape current colo

fk

If I had it my way thane wouldn't be an abandoned shitheap

but alas

[frigid jewel]

If I need more ST over Col I just run Thane

[slow saddle]

It isnt

[fair tinsel]

Idk how they go from s3 slayer fury peak to.....this

[slow saddle]

I mean s3 slayer 4p sucked

2p was dope though

I miss the 2p

[fair tinsel]

Endless beyblade spinning and good dam

Less utility than now, but still

[slow saddle]

It was just glorified rb

[fair tinsel]

Having an answer for mechs and affixes is nice, too

via the berserker talent

[slow saddle]

Playstyle is better now

But 2p from slayer set wouldds been nice

I feel we got 2 few sds

Which is very felt on arms

[quartz adder]

How is ur strat to get all the sets from the anniversary event? is it smart to buy 15x caches with helms? or what are you guys doing

[slow saddle]

I wait 4 fix

Should at least be armor type bound

[urban fjord]

what anniversary event

[slow saddle]

Everything works btw

U can just buy 15 of ech part or until u have the set u want then move on

[quartz adder]

how many sets is there? so i dont overbuy. But when i have every "helm" is the cache unbuyable then?

[frigid jewel]

yes

one for every class. what you get is RNG

[hexed wadi]

is voidclaw gloves not good for arms cuz no crit?

[slow saddle]

So count classes

[slow saddle]

Sim it

I use em

[leaden garnet]

They are BiS single target, but fall behind AoE

Assuming equal ilvl

But also yes, always sim it, take nothing for granted

[slow saddle]

Raid good m+ mid

[hexed wadi]

did they ever fix dungeon slice or is it still broken

[slow saddle]

Nah

2 much work

Just use st

[crude rapids]

Was gonna try arms all raid tonight but I guess fury for any fervor fights 😅

[slow saddle]

I mean u will still play arms on paladin

[wind hatch]

tbh it doesnt matter much

[slow saddle]

Only real fervor fight

[wind hatch]

adds die quick

[slow saddle]

Imma do 2t slayer on dragons me thinks

[wind hatch]

colo pumps too much

[slow saddle]

Ill c

Depends a bit on how good we are

Its usually the kind of fight where i csn grt some pad

[crude rapids]

Surely chim you will notice

[slow saddle]

But dev exist

Lol i play st on chim

Shit dies b4 i smell adds

2 devs

And an augistan

[crude rapids]

Rip

[slow saddle]

Last time i tested movin when shit was stacked i swear

2 globals

[wind hatch]

nah

adds die quick

nothing you can cleave fob that lives longer than like 10 secs

[slow saddle]

I mean mby in a bad pug

And intermission

Nonody cares

Casters must die quick.

As its the only failure point

Broad strokes + powerfullwings

[crude rapids]

Yeah now I think about it broad is enough

[slow saddle]

Seemd 2be enuff

[wind hatch]

yeah I just run broad + pm

i run cleave + fob for imperator tho but even then bladestorm cranks most of the adds

[slow saddle]

I run powerfull +

[crude rapids]

Yeah bs buff was nice

[slow saddle]

Broad

I had the worst hc run ever yesterday

Dragons, tactician proc rste 18%

Arcano weave 15%

[crude rapids]

Oof

[slow saddle]

I wanted 2 just suicide

Entire run was like that

Legit felt like they have nerfed proc rates

[crude rapids]

Inb4 more bugs

[slow saddle]

Of evertthing

[quaint kindle]

FoB bug fixed yet or

[nova marsh]

It's weird

[quaint kindle]

?

[nova marsh]

cuz on law I feel like I've rolled a few less 1s

[slow saddle]

U mean

Notlaw

Coz he out

[nova marsh]

I'm gonna crash out over this spec again

actually

just all midnight specs

[slow saddle]

I miss sks

Df sks

[nova marsh]

S2?

[slow saddle]

The 1 that went brrrr on my screen

[gentle gyro]

Got void ring on 1st bonus roll, spent all my luck this year

[slow saddle]

Light then?

[smoky kayak]

I don't think anythings nerfed

It's possible they changed something under the hood, but I did a lot of Reap testing earlier today and got 21 procs over 111 casts, which is 19% - just under the expected 20%

[gentle gyro]

I got light, sorry. Got both now

[smoky kayak]

though "just under" in this context is within acceptable deviation - 1 more proc would have been 20%

[latent moss]

ye i sat at 5 dummies for a long time and its as intended

[slow saddle]

I rly dno, its all my proc things where off

[latent moss]

but in keys

it feels so off

[smoky kayak]

I think that's just RNG

[slow saddle]

Y but like all

[smoky kayak]

I also observed a similar amount of SD procs over the same period of time before and after so

[slow saddle]

Sd weave tactician

I know unlucky

But esp weave

At 15%

Was concerning

As its usually 40+

[smoky kayak]

idk that sounds like one kind of a one-off bug, definitely isn't the result of a deliberate change

which has happened in the past - Gallywix ring, Azerite traits, some legendaries, even talents have failed to initialize sometimes

[jolly nymph]

I’ve swapped to slayer I’ve colossus, I find it a lot more fluid to play

[smoky kayak]

but you would know real fast if it was 15% every pull and it most certainly isn't

[jolly nymph]

*over

[minor gust]

another one converted

welcome my child

[smoky kayak]

that said, a lot of this stuff can't be seen in data, so it's always possible they made a change under the hood with the way things are calculated... I just haven't observed anything concrete enough to suggest a meaningful change

[slow saddle]

I was just wondering coz slayer felt off yesterday

[weak wave]

Sudden Death still procs Reap the storm on ST?

[slow saddle]

But a spec based on procs

[slow saddle]

Yes

[minor gust]

just your brain playing tricks

[slow saddle]

Ofx

[weak wave]

Bug or what?

[slow saddle]

No

[minor gust]

procs feel no different to me

[latent moss]

no its intended

[slow saddle]

Fob 1 is felt

[vast helm]

FIX US

[slow saddle]

If

They removed 50% dmg to hs and slam in fob

[minor gust]

its been like 14 hours since discovery xD warlock pets were pulling random mobs for like 2 weeks

I wouldnt expect much

[slow saddle]

And just gave us 50% buf there

Wouls that help st?

Enufd

[spice epoch]

Boutta reclear dreamrift are we still doing slayer or are people running colossus for the adds now

[slow saddle]

Slayer st with broadstrokes and powerfull swings

If u ya raid has fingers

[spice epoch]

Ya sweet i was thinking people might of changed to colossus cause of the st buff

[vast helm]

Fix us pls

[fair tinsel]

They'd rather closely tune devourer first, pls understand

[north forge]

i'd personally love for this cleave build to be the viable slayer equiv M+ and let colossus lean into cleave. WW damage would just need to get turbo buffed and reap chance added to it

[slow saddle]

Nah

For that 2 work op//dreadnaught needs 2 slay

As in beta

[north forge]

ah, reminiscent of DF S3 arms. I loved it

[slow saddle]

Yup

[north forge]

imagine DF S3 arms, but just with RTS instead of thunderclap

[hybrid needle]

Reap chance added?
Pls, reap on ms was too strong already

[urban fjord]

i am doing zdps in colosuss keys this week

change it back blizzard

the demolish cdr is a big whatever burger

[north forge]

colossus feels substantially weaker after the cleve nerfs but i didnt wanna say anything coz maybe im just bad

[urban fjord]

i want my cleaves back

slayer does no AOE and colossus does less AOE and the ST buff isnt remotely noticeable

[vale gorge]

Meanwhile DH get steroided again

[urban fjord]

i am doing less in 18s than i was 3 days ago

and for a negligent ST gain

so im slightly ahead of the tank on boss now

[rose matrix]

I am kinda confused why any warrior spec lost any DPS

[urban fjord]

i feel like an actual detriment in keys right now

where before at least i could justify the boss damage being poo because i blasted on large pulls

[vast helm]

move Reap the Storm to SPEC trees and redesign a new one for slayer.

[slow saddle]

Well does ya comp funnel

[urban fjord]

ive LFG to 3600 nobody lets me funnel

im more complaining about the AOE on trash

[slow saddle]

Like if they do the st will be felt 100% once its foxxed

[urban fjord]

im hoping thats the case

[slow saddle]

Well i mean

[urban fjord]

and i can make the excuse i can prio down mobs

[slow saddle]

Thats a pug issue

[pulsar frost]

its almost always pug issue

[urban fjord]

looking over logs theres def a little loss in deep wounds damage in comparison

[slow saddle]

Its heavily impacts overall

[urban fjord]

but its not massive

[slow saddle]

If our niche isnt used

[urban fjord]

i assume because boss deep wounds is making up for it

[slow saddle]

We did loose aoe

As we should

It was a bit strong in higher keys

Can both have extreme funnrl and mad soe

Atm u are still insane prio dmg

At least once dw works with fob😄

[urban fjord]

it wasnt strong in relation to any other meta spec

[slow saddle]

It kindda was

Coz it included the funnel

Just go watch bizenstein

Dno what 2 tell u

If u play around arms is amazing

Pugs wont until season 2 or 3😆

And yes meta specs deliver easier

[flat willow]

In season 2 and 3 you won't have the tier set

And the funnel will be a lot less amazing

[slow saddle]

Surely we grt a better 1

😅

[flat willow]

Surely

[slow saddle]

We all know set + fob is just a random oversight

Nah but yes arms can perform crazily but requires a team and a correct comp

Meta classes in gen more flexible granted

• augs are amazing, and seem to work not as well with arms

[weak wave]

Anything new about the bugged bonusrolls?

[flat willow]

Well yeah, Aug buffs the damage of the other specs, and arms doesn't have any single target

So on bosses you now have 2 dead dps

4 minutes on a boss if you bring arms+Aug and can't pull adds on top

[slow saddle]

but theres ALWAYS tech to do that

faith

but ye in pug i 100% skip any aug grps

i still say

arms needs a huge ST buff

like 10-15k

across classs

ideally from like MS // execute // op

stuff that doesnt affect the funnel dmg thats allready good

[flat willow]

Ideally blizzard wouldn't have nerfed mortal strike damage this patch

[slow saddle]

yeha

[flat willow]

[slow saddle]

or Dreadnaught

60% twice

we had such a nice profile tuning wise

got Demolished id say

like OP competed with cleave on a per click basis, was prob a bit to strong BUT, i mean u still pressed cleave on cd

so dno

[stoic oriole]

Theres a wowhead post should be fixed

[graceful axle]

and some sort of remedy as well for those who got jipped

[weak wave]

Thanks

[safe island]

colo arms st rotation

feels good now

[trim elk]

Question about demolish with new cd reduction

Do we use it still only in collosus window?

[forest dove]

It’s been debated, I’m finding sending it more or less on CD is working better for me

[trim elk]

Cuz sometimes I have to wait like 10 seconda for WB to come off cd

And it feels off

[forest dove]

Usually you get one in CS, one right after, and then you usually can still get stacks quick enough before your second CS ends to send demo

[trim elk]

Talking specificly about paladins mythic

Not m+

[forest dove]

Usually around 10s seems to be my cut off, but that’s purely anecdotal

Maybe a little less depending on the health of the pack

[forest dove]

Oh okay, I imagine similar things would apply honestly

[trim elk]

The problem is you cant reset demo that fast on paladins

Since a lot of 2 targets

[rigid sun]

With the new demolish cooldown, it can almost confidently be used between every colossus smash

[forest dove]

SS MS builds stacks pretty fast honestly

[trim elk]

Kk

Thx

Will check some logs aswell

[reef bone]

I'm so lost with these rolls and which dungeons to roll in. I have 2 mythic crit rings, a mythic helm and crafted weapon, bracers and cloak - So Pit actually looks quite bad I think.

[trim elk]

Roll on mythic chimera

Bis boots, bis chest and gaze

In prot spec

Cant lose there

[reef bone]

Yeah that is nice except my guild got it to 20% last night so wont kill it this week & I had a terrible vault so have 4 voidcores

3

[forest dove]

Yep, I’m sending all of mine on chim personally, at least until I get gaze

[trim elk]

Well, 20 % is pretty low

I would wait till raid tbh

[reef bone]

then I'll have 5 😄

[trim elk]

Ah, you dont raid this week anymore?

[reef bone]

no only once per week

[trim elk]

Got it

[reef bone]

I guess what I'm asking is, whats a logical way to work out the best dungeon?

[trim elk]

Maisara caverns is good for loot I think

Except that vessel shit xD

But still pit of saron, due to bis weapon and pretty cool neck

And 3 bosses so lower loot pool

Also seems ok

[reef bone]

yeah just a shame I have the ring cloak and head from there

I guess I should maybe focus on an item I want rather than working out what I might roll I dont need

actuallly if I already got the ring froma vault does that mean I cant roll it?

[dim basalt]

You still can roll it

[wind hatch]

i think items are only excluded from the loot pool if you get them from a bonus roll

[dim basalt]

^

[reef bone]

greeeeat

😄

[pulsar frost]

what time/day do yall think is good to pug decently higher keys

[reef bone]

Sunday

[north forge]

this is how it SHOULD work, not how it DOES

[slow saddle]

MY GOD

[trail lichen]

Hello guys, so hows arms VS colo for m+ looking in 12.0.5? The cleave nerf looking awfull

[slow saddle]

FIX

the cleave nerf isnt the issue

the issue is the DW not working on fob

like it shows

[stable fiber]

yeah its unfortunate

[slow saddle]

its what was supposed to compensate our mortal wounds nerf somewhat

[stable fiber]

if they fix it my dps goes up so much on l'ura

[dim basalt]

our dps*

[latent moss]

they dont want u dealing more dmg on lura

[stable fiber]

i had some crazy pulls ngl

couple like 150-160k going into intermission

pretty nasty

[wind hatch]

jesus

[stable fiber]

maybe more like 140k cause of aug idk

[wind hatch]

that’s still insane

i didnt think it would be that good

[stable fiber]

that is with fob bugged

[boreal igloo]

what addon are yall using that gives the sound effect for when SS drops?

[stable fiber]

in context of everyone else its really not good still

[wind hatch]

for arms it is

[stable fiber]

im above the dks and mage tho

[untold pewter]

Cd manager has it
Right click the alert and set a sound

[wind hatch]

I was watching wes’s stream last week and he was not even close to that

[stable fiber]

yeah he was pure ST build

[boreal igloo]

goat

[stable fiber]

couple good reap procs can you up a fairly high amount

had like a 220k opener one pull

[dim basalt]

Gotta love parsing on the first few bosses of VS where you just need luck with SD procs

[wind hatch]

i had absolute insane rng this week

i was also getting PI but thats not important

[slow saddle]

TBH puggin as arms is such a let down atm

[slow saddle]

rly?

ok i need to set that up 😛

[dim basalt]

how so

[balmy kindle]

Our raid ST feels like dog

[reef bone]

pretty sure it is dog

[candid kindle]

Feels? Its dog

[untold pewter]

That's because it is

[balmy kindle]

Feels good when you have a 95 parse and it's still below others

[flat willow]

not just the raid st

[balmy kindle]

Thankfully m+ is the game(only H raid)

[candid kindle]

Just go fury slayer on pure st

[flat willow]

great news about that, all other specs got buffed and fury got nerfed

[candid kindle]

Its also dog but less dog

[flat willow]

apparently fury was doing a little too good this season

5 more buffs to void dh

[untold pewter]

Ew fury

[balmy kindle]

I had a fury in my raid guild group and bro was way below me at 90+ parse

thought he played bad but nooo it's just warrior

[sharp galleon]

how bad is it to overlap SS charges with Colossus Smash

[balmy kindle]

Like the only fight j enjoyed was vanguards

[wind hatch]

mythic dragons fun too

[sharp galleon]

like say i have a few SS charges left from SS and CS is off cd do i spend all the SS charges then CS or just slam CS

[stable fiber]

holy shit the lust on l'ura with my setup is going to be

500k dps

[wind hatch]

just slam cs, getting cs on cooldown is more important

[stable fiber]

im so ready

[balmy kindle]

Not a big deal but try not to waste too much SS stacks

[candid kindle]

Bro you don’t understand the vision, they doing this because clearly in 2 more expansions, with the gear our stats will be all capped and we will be able to do 110k dps on pure st, all the other classes will do way more than that but we will be doing 110k pure st bro trust the class devs bro

[sharp galleon]

ic

[reef bone]

Okay I've spent the whole morning trawling through dungeon loot tables and I think I've narrowed it down to 2:

Pit of Saron
Need: Weapon, Neck, Shoulders, Chest, Belt
Don't Need: Helm, Back, Finger
Note: Weapon is ~300 DPS better than Skyreach

Skyreach
Need: Weapon, Shoulders, Hands, Trinket (Solar Flare Prism)
Don't Need: Helm, Back

So do is it better to go Pit because it has more I do need or Skyreach because it has less I don't need and a trinket?

[candid kindle]

Somebody actually tested ts realized it feels misserable to play and said « ts good fam, send it to live »

[stable fiber]

https://voidcoreplanner.pages.dev

[flat willow]

is the duplicate bug fixed yet

can we use the damn coins

[stable fiber]

they said yes

[hybrid needle]

got invited to chimaerus
happy noises
see 2MM and 3 devourer in raid
adds get eaten up by MM and dev
looking at dmg Meter
happy i got above 80k in singletarget
raidlead says group doesnt have enough dmg
youve been removed from the grouo

[flat willow]

now we pray

[reef bone]

oh hell yes

[flat willow]

blizzard wouldn't lie to us

[slow saddle]

a m g

i just had

2 12s abandoned coz ppl are toxic

wthelly is going on 😄

[untold pewter]

Wdym

That's like the standard?

[flat willow]

maybe people are playing when they don't want to play to use their coins

so they are more toxic

that's my theory

[balmy kindle]

You tell me, I couldn't get into any keys after bonus rolls , winded up tanking just to get the rolls on dungeons I want

[reef bone]

wtf this thing tells me my 5th BIS trinket is darkmoon

[stable fiber]

you can ignore that

[covert birch]

It’s an embellish ignore

[untold pewter]

What's "this thing"?
Archon?

[stable fiber]

its a strong trinket but it uses a embellishment

bloodmallet tells you that too

[slow saddle]

i miss when it was bis

give me some bis crafted trinket tbh

thats passive

[reef bone]

https://voidcoreplanner.pages.dev/

yeah that would be sick

[hybrid needle]

Can the bonusloot upgrade

[untold pewter]

Why not use run droptimizers on raidbots?

[stable fiber]

wdym upgrade

[flat willow]

bis crafted trinket, but it has 3 minutes cooldown

take it or leave it

[hybrid needle]

Free stat / Socket proc

[covert birch]

Can have tertiary yeah

[slow saddle]

😄

[stable fiber]

this just straight up tells you what is the best dungeon to RR based off a droptimizer sim

[stable fiber]

yes

[slow saddle]

or 2 second cast timer

tbf i realised why we suck in st

[untold pewter]

So it tells you what droptimizer tells you kek

[slow saddle]

Combat pots

[stable fiber]

not really

[slow saddle]

like dk carried by em

i wonder if gap is AS big without em

[untold pewter]

But yeah I can see how people would need something like that

[stable fiber]

droptimizer doesnt tell you what dungeons give you the best odds for upgrades

[flat willow]

the gap wouldn't be as big but it would still be like 30k

[north forge]

decent website this. I'm gonna continue rolling pit. hopefully land helm / ring / neck before i waste rolls on the other slots but thats RNG for ya. Also gotta craft bracers next week over current 2/6myth for 2nd embellish... (fury swapper it was on weapon prev.)

[slow saddle]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/v8QA3VeiCo3PCNiZoRXgP9 !!! Holy smokes ALMOST 90k

i love it 😭

[untold pewter]

The hope is that people would be able to infer that
But yeah...

[flat willow]

another one bites the dust

[balmy kindle]

Mods?

[wind hatch]

son 😭

[hybrid needle]

@smoky kayak

[slow saddle]

dno wth im doing wrong to not hit 90k

[north forge]

https://tenor.com/view/so-long-partner-woody-sad-toy-story-gif-14135338

[untold pewter]

<@&257983573498265600>

[wind hatch]

is double eyes of eagle not simming better for u?

[slow saddle]

yeh

its just for col

if i dont use 29 Crit

[wind hatch]

im at 94.2k st rn

[slow saddle]

i dont have more crit than haste

[wind hatch]

ah

[slow saddle]

so im forced to use light pot