arms

[mortal crag]

i have

just woke up updated and sent vault

myth shoudlers for me :3

a humble 0.7% increase

[loud mauve]

very confused on what to rall for still after all the info I've read / watched
Rolling Pit (after they fix the bug of course) looks like the go to option, but I already picked shoulders from vault 1 week before, so it's only 4 good drops for me there.
That's still a lot, but my current trinket from Chimerius is only from Normal difficulty, so I'm really looking in the direction of rolling it for 1/3 chance on Chimerius M

what are your plans guys?

[unique bridge]

Taking oppurtunist for M+ means we're back to OPx2 for the stacks right

[astral yarrow]

answer is basically always pit/seat or chimaerus or whatever the goats the name is

[quick acorn]

So in 2t we use cleave with that Buff Up right? At 3 stacks or?

[kind stag]

yeah 2t you use ss and st rotation with 3 stacks of colla

then you pop cleave

repeat

[old coral]

Hey guys, can I ask you a little help? i'm trying to switch from fury to arms, and i'd like to do it when I actually deal more DPS as Arms. How do you reccomend setting up the simulation on Raidbot? Should I use "dungeon slice"?

[astral yarrow]

5min st represent

[fresh spire]

Never use dungeon slice for warrior it's not optimised

[astral yarrow]

unless Des is playing warrior that tier

then its at least looked at

[old coral]

uh ok, thanks a lot! i'll go for st sim then

[rain cliff]

i am going crazy or does fervor for battle does not proc heroic strike anymore?

[kind stag]

procs for me

[chilly wind]

is something bugged with sound effects? it feels kinda underwhelming since today

[astral yarrow]

everything is bugged

[rancid robin]

and we cannot jump into demolish anymore btw

[torpid acorn]

Is it me or the new HC animation looks like what Mortal Strike should look like?
Because Mortal Strike "Sword uppercut" never looked that mortal to me

[rancid robin]

it auto cancel it zzz

[kind stag]

you mean leap or demo during jump

[dim basalt]

Jump and demo midair? If thats removed that sucks lol

[kind stag]

worked for me

leap too

maybe something else triggered the cancel

[mortal crag]

yeah

i have a tts for sweeping strikes

[quiet temple]

Hej everyone!
Quick question, I got a myth weapon in my vault, but with the wrong stats of course (mastery/versa)...
is it worth to take it anyway or I stay with my weapon 285?

[mortal crag]

and its just giga low volume

[kind stag]

stay crafted you can bonusroll for PoS weapon

[grizzled hare]

Yeah Fervor is busted

[mortal crag]

ye for piece of shit weapon

letsgooooooooo

[grizzled hare]

Even regular Slam doesn't proc

[dim basalt]

It does proc

But doesnt apply MW apparently

[kind stag]

i did one cleave and one overpower on training dummy

[grizzled hare]

So it's the animation then?

[kind stag]

this i can confirm

[mortal crag]

so we got nerfed

[quaint kindle]

animation is bricked y

[graceful sun]

Bro that's genius

[fresh spire]

The animation is missing from fevour

[dim basalt]

I hope they fix FoB Slam not applying MW quickly

[fresh spire]

Someone mentioned it last night

[dim basalt]

Surely we wont be stuck on that for an eternity

[knotty coral]

any guies for arms warrior somewhere?

[dim basalt]

#dps-faq

[agile cave]

Is Arms better than Fury right now for M+ and raiding?

[kind stag]

surely

i dare not even wonder if any other talents or modifiers for dmg stopped working

[hardy mantle]

Which dungeon is go to bonus roll for weapon ?

I guess pit

?

[kind stag]

yuh

[halcyon mountain]

that would be my bet

[dim basalt]

Pit is generally very good ye

[kind stag]

i wanna bonus roll on HC chimaerus but it feels like a waste on HC lule

[hardy mantle]

Does anyone have any info about if does it drop item that I has myth track already equipped ?

[fresh spire]

Pit has tins if good shir

You have to bonus roll items to lock them on future rolls.

Items aren't locked if you have them

[kind stag]

but thats bugged atm no?

ppl says they getting duplicates

[hardy mantle]

damn

[fresh spire]

That's something else entirely.

I'd hold off using rolls until we got confirmation they are fixed

[halcyon mountain]

a lot of things went completely borked with this release

blizz release polished product challenge impossible

[kind stag]

multi gajillion dollar company

cant hire like 4 dudes/dudettes to QA

[halcyon mountain]

they got laid off, cannot generate yacht fast enough

[kind stag]

[ancient birch]

Got a myth puzzle box in my vault. Mostly doing m+ this season, other option is just to take the extra bonus roll for gaze or the 2nd boss voidspire trinket. What do you guys think?

[twilit hemlock]

With the increased CDR on Demolish are we ripping it on CD or holding it for CS still

[umbral badger]

guys! i thought we can get a reroll coin "or whatever it is" if we don't need anything in vault ?

my vault sucks but can't see the coin at the npc 😄

how does this work

[sour girder]

You get the coin that gives you normally the socket

[mortal crag]

mb i fired them

i rly wanted to just piss u off

[sour girder]

And exchange that for the reroll coin

[mortal crag]

was a prank bro

[kind stag]

grrrr im angy,.....

[ionic mica]

box is good for the pulls you use it, generally a disliked trinket tho

youre not gonna get many positive takes on box here 🙂

[halcyon mountain]

warrior players saboutaging warrior players ??

warrior brain moment 🙄

[umbral badger]

where to exchange it

[ionic mica]

wouldnt surprise me if it was bugged like everything else

[umbral badger]

i don't know i just know i took 6 tokens of merit and don't know what to do to get the reroll thing 😄

i am the kind of guy who gets lost in simple tasks so it might be simple xd

[topaz python]

does gaze just sim bad because raidbots cannot calculate it properly on arms? or its just not that good? mythic gaze gives me +100 dps if i change my HC plum from belo

[ionic mica]

it should be at the same person as the socket item by the vault but its not there for me at the moment. i know people were saying not to take the bonus one until you have the 2 default ones anyway

[umbral badger]

also how the f do i not get any patron orders on a reset LoL wtf

[ionic mica]

so go to the guy in voidstorm first i guess

[umbral badger]

yea i guess i will do that

i don't even know how to get those 2 either but probably a question so we will see

[ionic mica]

but again, it wouldnt surprise me if it was bugged so worst case just hold onto the tokens of merit

[umbral badger]

but still weird week, no patron orders even is mindblowing.

[ionic mica]

go to decimus in the voidstorm near where you portal in

[umbral badger]

gonna have to try colossus arms too went to sleep cz severs refused to come online :d

[slow saddle]

So in aoe

we just send demo r?

[ionic mica]

can give sending it whenever a go though

see how that works out

[umbral badger]

are you sure this is updated anyway ?

[mild sierra]

Yes

[maiden apex]

so we got any changes to the talent builds for st/aoe colossus?

[mild sierra]

Archi talked about it earlier

[maiden apex]

seems slayer still comes out ahead on ST and cleave

[pine rampart]

so slayer raid colossus m+?

[mortal crag]

archi simmed it

u can pretty much send demo on cd

its like a 0.2% loss

[astral yarrow]

Isnt it much easier to just hold for every warbreaker though

[mortal crag]

iirc the conclusion was

if warbreaker over 10s cd

send

if not, hold

[kind stag]

thats good advice actually

[mortal crag]

ofc

[kind stag]

ima try it more like that

[mortal crag]

im top 500 gajillion arms

[kind stag]

[mortal crag]

ive been sarming for like

5 years now

[kind stag]

damn same

im top "insert whatever number of max level warriors are in retail" too

[mortal crag]

surely resi20 this week (arms is fucking bugged to oblivion and even tho i sim more dmage ill do less than tank this time)

[kind stag]

so what bugs we seeing on arms so far

mw not proccing on fervor is main one i guess

fury is saying reap is non existant i didnt do any keys but ill have to compare reap numbers pre patch

[mortal crag]

ppl also report slam not working

like on fob

so if some ppl have it just mw

and some have it straight up fob

thats cringe

[clever crag]

How is it after the change?

M+

[vital zinc]

yes

[warm tundra]

Did any of our talents change with this patch?

[kind stag]

works i tested it but it doesnt apply woons

[rancid robin]

hahahah

[gentle atlas]

what the fuck is going on with arms? why is the dps so low now

[vital zinc]

you pressing your buttons?

[umbral gyro]

Hey. Does the rage starve is better now with new Patch or didnt change?

[pale agate]

my dam is fine

arms colo here

[kind stag]

aw shit i gotta try that

[tepid relic]

[gentle atlas]

as slayer I see a massive drop but will try colossus

[vital zinc]

[slow saddle]

oh in raid

u are cooked

[gentle atlas]

I mostly play fury in raid but just done a nexus and my dps was low compared to yesterday

are there any bugs?

[pale agate]

so do we just send demolish whenever? i feel like now i have to track more cooldown

[rustic jolt]

u have less reap proc thats why its less

[kind stag]

i need to do more testing but there might be some talents or %s not working correctly

[slow saddle]

dno man did slayer in raid today, and it felt worse than ever

mby i was just super unlucky though

[gentle atlas]

feels way off the 2% nerf announced

[kind stag]

also Opportunist in slayer talents now

for m+

[ionic mica]

my master of warfare and fob is working fine on dummies at least

[reef birch]

i intended to go arms after reset, i read the patch notes saying cleave no longer applies deep wounds. So is warbreaker the only way to apply the dot now? If, yes then wow, that sucks

[ionic mica]

and holy shit does demolish come back fast

[rancid robin]

true :/

Only doing 12 atm need to wait to do real push key to see what it looks like

[vital zinc]

you can grief yourself even harder now if you're bad with sweep 😄

[rancid robin]

it is but it comes SO FAST it's ok tier i'd say

[warped owl]

demolish not warbreaker is the onle aoe source of deep wounds

[calm hollow]

hmm, eye sims seems to be wrong, only sims with 1 gem

[trail lantern]

so which dungeons should we run with slayer after the changes ?

[rancid robin]

None i think

[vital zinc]

Biz already talking about col in AA

so probably none

[warped owl]

think colo is ahead of slayer now but still both viable

[calm hollow]

not in ST

[warped owl]

play what you like

[calm hollow]

i will just play slayer for my weekly 10s, no thinking just smashing buttons

[rustic jolt]

i just hope slayer is still good for high keys pushing... rly dont like col tbh

[dim basalt]

Farover has been doing that anyway

[vital zinc]

Yeah, but his group is fucking insane, we're filthy normies

[kind stag]

we should play whatever we prefer

the 20 key pushers can think about that

[maiden notch]

how hard got the arms aoe hit?

[kind stag]

#updates-midnight

[warped owl]

like 2%

[gentle atlas]

I just simmed 60k on a patchwerk 3 mins

this is beyond garbage

[maiden notch]

yes i am aware, but does it feel like 2% ?

[gentle atlas]

xD

[civic dagger]

how much of a dmg increase is skyfury for colossus?

[polar sundial]

arms dead time to reroll?!?!

[gentle atlas]

wtf did they do to warrior

[kind stag]

on what spec what talents what context lol

[twin wagon]

has anyone noticed cleave animation having changed?

[gentle atlas]

slayer 1 target 3 min

[twin wagon]

no longer showing slam animation

[warped owl]

heroic strike got updated animation

[gentle atlas]

I just asked some friends they all sim 100K+ same context (a mage, a warrior and a rogue)

we fucked

[warped owl]

what talents and what ilvl

[gentle atlas]

not a warrior, a dk

[warped owl]

im simming 92k as slayer

[gentle atlas]

I have tyhe same talents 279 ilvl

[dim basalt]

Arms is fine stop dooming

[gentle atlas]

slayer talents as yesterday

[maiden notch]

u cant have the same talents as a dk or mage

[clever crag]

Why sim st

[maiden notch]

just saying

[warped owl]

are you simming m+ talents?

[clever crag]

Thats not our niche

You funnel

[twin wagon]

if it was 3 targets previously there would be cleave + mini animation for slam

[clever crag]

You pump aoe

[rustic jolt]

i think if u have some good premade tank or smth u should play col but with the lfg random tanks its safer to go slayer

[gentle atlas]

I simmed ST because I noticed a huge difference in my key this morning

[twin wagon]

now just showing animation for cleave

[calm hollow]

our niche is sitting on the bench, thats how ass warrior is in late progress bosses

[clever crag]

Talking bout m+

[gentle atlas]

ofc m+ talents slayer

[clever crag]

raid is irrelevant just go fury

[vital zinc]

Where's Gromnak when you need him

[wet current]

I feel like single target slayer is pretty fun. However, there are these weird rage starved moments i keep running into. no procs resetting OP/MS and have to just stand and and wait cause no rage.

[clever crag]

Press rend

[wet current]

even if rend is allready applied?

[kind stag]

im lower ilvl than you and i sim higher on st with colo m+ lol

checjk your builds/sims

[flat willow]

fury just got nerfed

[clever crag]

Yeah theres nothing else to press hehe

[wet current]

fair

[clever crag]

For no reason lmao

B tier dps gets nerfed

Fury dps is dependent on add pad

[warped owl]

with or without buffs?

[clever crag]

And they nerf st

[calm hollow]

just run out for a charge, rend with long duration reapplied is a waste

[gentle atlas]

I left by default the buffs part so food + flask on

[wet current]

yeah i've started trying to weave in more charges and that helped for sure. stinks we have to do that though lol

[calm hollow]

yea, kinda ass

[gentle atlas]

I must be fucking up somewhere I guess

[warped owl]

must be my slayer m+ sims ST is at 87k with all buffs

sounds quite low

[gentle atlas]

ye def

[vapid pine]

Does Slam apply mortal wounds correctly, or is it just Cleave-Slam that's bugged?

[unkempt axle]

Any advice plz ? I already got nexus and pos ring hm what did you think ? Ring or 6 token to buy roll voidcore ?

[warped owl]

slam applies deep wounds normally

[vale gorge]

Trinket is UBBER bis ( the upper one)

[warped owl]

sim it

[calm hollow]

which trinket? u drunk?

[twin wagon]

im noticing similar too, the animation isnt playing for cleave+slam on 3 targets

[reef birch]

i think he confused the chimerus trinkets

[twin wagon]

but slam is being applied when checking details

just animation seems bugged/removed

[halcyon mountain]

SUPER unsatisfying

[unkempt axle]

I already did it and this didnt help me xD

[ionic mica]

occlusion of void would be the standout

the trinkets all suck and the rest are hero gear

maybe heart of wind is nice if your current trinkets suck or you have no haste

[brittle rock]

guys why people craft haste+mastery items?

when crit haste is bis stat\

[vapid pine]

Probably people who want to play fury for raid

[brittle rock]

ah

got it

[mortal crag]

Like 10%

[vapid pine]

Or robot just told them it's better in combination with the rest of their gear, unlikely though

[mortal crag]

What type of Sim did u do lmao

My st 5min Sims 92k

Regular st raid sim

And I sim 78-79k on slayer m+

[lunar acorn]

I would take the ring

From nexus

Rest looks meh no?

[mortal crag]

He probs sent 1t 3min with zero buffs and zero enchants etc

[vapid pine]

It's so cringe the amount raidbuffs change our damage tbh. No shaman? 10% dps loss instant unlucky bro

[mortal crag]

Myth ring is big

[mortal crag]

Just blast through it

[unkempt axle]

I think ring is the best ! Ty for your help fellow warriors

[mortal crag]

Prove them wrong, outdps your raiders without the buff

https://tenor.com/view/go-beyond-plus-ultra-all-might-mha-bnha-memes-gif-19247796

Make exec phase count

Proc every heroic

Crit every amped mortal strike

[vapid pine]

There's a massive skill issue hanging in my way though

[mortal crag]

https://tenor.com/view/armswarrior-warrior-warriorwow-armswow-armswarriorwow-gif-27099127

BREAK THROUGH IT

https://tenor.com/view/black-clover-asta-gif-19329223

[pliant anchor]

what do uguys take in AA? what buff

[mortal crag]

YOU'RE AN ARMS WARRIOR

WIELD THAT DAMN 2 HANDER

WITH RESPECT

https://tenor.com/view/berserk-guts-crying-anime-gif-9027702

[cursive sun]

myth shoulders or wep?

[rancid robin]

weap

all day

[cursive sun]

or do i just go for a bonus loot roll

[rancid robin]

and do another craft to get back an ambelish

[mortal crag]

[rancid robin]

true tho

[mortal crag]

Huh

Bad take

[rancid robin]

but when u sim remember to add a craft with ambelish

[cursive sun]

weirdly enough it said shoulders for me so idk lol

[mortal crag]

I had wep in vault 🙂 Sim said shoulders

We really want stats

[cursive sun]

yea i think ill be doing that

[rancid robin]

did u remember to add a craft with an ambelish ?

[mortal crag]

Yes

¿¿

[rancid robin]

and it seems less ?

weird lol

[mortal crag]

Yes

Stats

Don't need vers mast

[rancid robin]

oh true

my weap was bis stats that's why it sims better

[mortal crag]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qfpcxjWfzhrbk5Gf2g3mqo

[mortal crag]

Yes I wrote stats like 4 times lol

[rancid robin]

sry didn't see haha

[cursive sun]

arcanoweave cloak or just regular embel

[mortal crag]

Double arcano

Plus u can fish bis weapon now

From pit

🧎‍♂️🧎‍♂️🧎‍♂️

Or close to bis at least

[onyx rapids]

hello to all
for players in US how is the arms warrior changes feeling?

[mortal crag]

Changes are live in eu too lol

[onyx rapids]

ah ha didnt know sorry

so how are the changes?! asian server is tomorrow

[gentle atlas]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/qGf7MiGu3J51Po3ZHyVZpz

[hollow plover]

[hasty pumice]

I had a xeno point 19 with 170k overall holy fuck

Idk how bad I played this, if I didn't get good CD alignments with mob packs and HP and what not

[gentle atlas]

wtf am I doing wrong

master

[cursive sun]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/di2gSU7ntEe28dWRToSic7
did i miss anything? i think i made everything

[hasty pumice]

But fuck me did that feel bad

@mortal crag cheer me up

[cursive sun]

or do i not sim 5t

do i just go st

lol

im not sure

[hasty pumice]

I was bottom DPS for the first time in ages

I'm blaming the changes, not that I had two blasters

Can't be me. I'm not crazy you're crazy

[kind stag]

maybe this?

[hasty pumice]

Also psure sending demolish anywhere outside of CS no matter how long the cs cool down is and how quickly you get demolish back, is just worse

Felt pretty useless

[gentle atlas]

kk might be ill update

[dim basalt]

Biz says just send demo

[mortal crag]

Was it the end of the key?

[dim basalt]

But genuinely it doesnt matter I think

[vapid pine]

Don't sim weekly

[mortal crag]

I think 170 overall for nx is like alright

I had a bit higher on my 20 iirc

[hasty pumice]

Not the log, details

[kind stag]

with without stack inside outside cs?

[mortal crag]

Yeah so it's kinda average below average idk

[hasty pumice]

My 18 had 180k overall in log

[dim basalt]

We are not talking opener

[hasty pumice]

Yeah it felt like ass

[mortal crag]

Ok cooked a bit

[late lantern]

Can we already upgrade this week?

[hasty pumice]

1st boss no funnel either but

[mortal crag]

I think we lose a lot on 2nd boss if we play it bad

[hasty pumice]

Probably but I also didn't play the packs well

[kind stag]

yeh i getcha just asking whats the rule of thumb now

[hasty pumice]

I had a sub rogue with the new bugged smokebomb

[mortal crag]

Just be me bro idk

[hasty pumice]

True

[mortal crag]

Farover more like Closeunder

Might send some keys before raid

[kind stag]

mortal wounds on fervor is bugged rn no?

[dim basalt]

To quote what Biz said "if CS is 10 seconds away and you send demo anyway your next demo will end up within cs"

[hasty pumice]

Well at least it was a clean 0 death nexus 19

Soon 20 keys

[balmy kindle]

shoulders or puzzlebox ? more incluned for shoulders

[hasty pumice]

Only missing academy and skyreach

[mortal crag]

EW PUzzle

EWEWEW

[kind stag]

puzzle hate club

[mortal crag]

Skyreach Colo is the most fucked thing in the game

[balmy kindle]

yea dont like puzzle here too

[mortal crag]

You either annihilate the key or do tank dps all 3 bosses rly depending on ur tank

I did like 180 overall on my 19

Lmao

Me and tank got a 98 log kekw

We play birds on 2nd boss

[hasty pumice]

Yeah if you have somebody who can pull shit through wall for funnel on bosses

It's easier

[mortal crag]

I'll do better now that rogue goes sub

He steals so much funnel it's wild

As assa

[hasty pumice]

Dude I'm afraid of keys like skyreach now without shaman

[dim basalt]

Saves fuck ton of time

[hasty pumice]

Cause I can't escape to slayer now

[mortal crag]

Nah u blast

[dim basalt]

Like SR is already quite lenient

But wall pulls make it super free

[hasty pumice]

Bro rage will suck

[mortal crag]

Doable trust

It's ok in aoe

St just ignore exec unless sd proc

[hasty pumice]

Yeah ik

[mortal crag]

And ur semi ok

Just full ignore exec

[hasty pumice]

Ik but charge weaving feels iffy in skyreach on 1st and 2nd boss

[slow saddle]

Hmm

[mortal crag]

Nah it's kinda OK idk

I usually just leap the swirly

[hasty pumice]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1172650264445071390/1229899940348825661/4x.gif

Leap this

[dim basalt]

You can charge the swirly on 1st boss btw

[wet current]

charge weaving is not a fun mechanic

[gentle atlas]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/o3katTHGEfRSQm2Q6iAAAP

[dim basalt]

I tested

[hasty pumice]

Ik

[gentle atlas]

still same shit :(

[kind stag]

😤

[hasty pumice]

Anyways time to do groceries

Mes amis

Guten Tag

https://gifconvert.vxtwitter.com/convert.avif?url=https://video.twimg.com/tweet_video/HFKAkF3XkAAdJ4g.mp4

[dim basalt]

lmfao

[mortal crag]

BRUHHH tempting me like that

I'm in the gym

[dim basalt]

Thinking about it, isnt col now exactly the same as in TWW

[umbral badger]

bro anyone having weird buggs ? like my game suddenly decided that walking left and right "or turning for that matter" is not allowed 😄

[dim basalt]

With so many cds desyncing

[hollow plover]

?

[slow saddle]

ok is it just me

[dim basalt]

The delve fucks strafing

[slow saddle]

or is warlock a bit better than arms in pugs 😄

[dim basalt]

Gotta relog

[umbral badger]

WOW ok explains things

[umbral badger]

yup did that, came back dead 😄

and not fixed even 😄

[dim basalt]

Well you have to play the entire delve like that

And relog when youre done

[umbral badger]

lets start by updating addons i guess

could be related

this reminds me of TWW bug where your char can get bugged and keeps sliding to one direciton constantly

forever until you relog

[dim basalt]

I had a dc in raid recently and my corpse kept sliding to the side

According to guildies

[umbral badger]

might be a warrior thing, we are possessed creatures.

carrying the mirror apparently in teh delve got me bugged again but can't do it without carrying that thing 😄

[iron ibex]

log on diff char

and log back

[reef bone]

You cant really go wrong bonus rolling Chimeras & Vorasisu right?

[kind stag]

i guess yeah

if mythic

feels like a waste of roll on hc

[ionic mica]

just make sure youre in prot loot spec for chim

[reef bone]

yeah I meant Mythic

[hushed patrol]

gaze no bis anymore is it same for you guys ? i have heart and pris mythic

[kind stag]

3rd person ive seen today here mentioning gaze

are sims off on it or something changed?

[reef bone]

our sim overlords are never wrong

[ionic mica]

it has been behind plume and guidon for me for a few weeks, but only like 100-200 dps

and im not holding out for plume

[lusty slate]

I sim better with plume normal and heart mythic than gaze heroic , idk

[vast helm]

wating for new blue post buffs for sure.

[kind stag]

first bugfixes pls

[reef bone]

is it 2 cores to roll in raid and 1 in m+?

[kind stag]

ya

[reef bone]

Oh damn, well now I have no idea what to do 😄

[rancid robin]

are the sim update for this patch ?

[wet current]

just get your gaze lol you're worrying about a 1% of 1% prob

[kind stag]

i dont have a mythic guild so i guess ill roll for m+

[calm hollow]

imo slayer arms feels like ass after the changes

[ionic mica]

unless you really want guidon and heart yeah just go gaze

[calm hollow]

in m+

[ionic mica]

all of them are good

[reef bone]

I have 3 cores

[wet current]

def does

[warped owl]

oh yeah fob slam not applying deep wounds huh

[kind stag]

its epic

surely they fix it fast

[gentle atlas]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/o3katTHGEfRSQm2Q6iAAAP someone can tell me why my sim so low?

wtf am I doing wrong

[ionic mica]

no raid buffs

[misty zenith]

^

[warped owl]

ye no buffs

[gentle atlas]

still seem low even with no buffs

I mostly do mm+ so I used slayer st spec

[warped owl]

arms gains a lot of % from buffs

[gentle atlas]

kk

[vapid pine]

Don't sim weekly

[warped owl]

think shaman is like 10%

[gentle atlas]

will try thx

[mortal crag]

Yh sham is like 10

Ur missing almost 20% just from buffs eta gg

[gentle atlas]

your st 5 mins sim was with buffs then?

[misty zenith]

colo or slayer now 😐

[mortal crag]

Ofc all 5m st is standard default

[mortal crag]

Slayer raid

Colo m+/vanguard/dragons

[ionic mica]

as long as you are conistent with the sim settings it doesnt really matter

[mortal crag]

It does

[misty zenith]

colo feels odd and low in comparison to slayer pre patch

[mortal crag]

Because stat weights can change

[quartz lintel]

Does anyone know If i use Potion of Recklessness with 54 vers and it gives me -100 or something vers if that effects my dps?

[ionic mica]

for their gearing purposes i mean

[mortal crag]

That's why u sim with all buffs

[ionic mica]

it changes a bit

[mortal crag]

Yes it matters

[misty zenith]

slayer last week was fkn rocking and rolling

[ionic mica]

for an m+ only guy

[mortal crag]

With or without BL can change haste percentages

It matters for raid even more because in raid you're more likely to have all buffs

Which is why u sim with all of them

[ionic mica]

well raid ofc it matters

and ofc you sim with them all

[mortal crag]

Yes so where does it not matter?

[ionic mica]

but it wouldnt be the end of the world to sim without as an m+ only guy

[mortal crag]

Are u gonna m+ with not even flask?

[ionic mica]

or to sim with limited

bro relax

[mortal crag]

Yeah he simmed with none

[ionic mica]

end of the world and worse are different things

[mortal crag]

Its bad habits

He's gonna come here in 3 weeks and ask why does he sim less than everyone again

Even with buffs

Cuz his gear won't be appropriate

[ionic mica]

i was just saying that his old sims arent useless

not to continue

you are correct all buffs is better

[wet current]

that was an exhausting exchange of words to watch lol

[flat willow]

I'm always like 2 seconds away from being able to demolish twice in one c smash

COME BACK C SMASH

[viscid fossil]

what do i take for arms, i cant really sim bc all my gear is fury but will prob swap soon

[flat willow]

I'd take the box but it can be really annoying to use

[viscid fossil]

i am box shill its fine

[ionic mica]

then box 😄

[viscid fossil]

aight

[ionic mica]

but id take bonus roll cos fuck box

[bold rivet]

I'm curious what spec people will be playing now for the last few bosses in raid

[viscid fossil]

bro 2s cast time for 20%+ flat damage

you can cope all you want

its good

[ionic mica]

yeah and then nothing for the next 3-4 CS

id rather be consistent

[viscid fossil]

ah true the rolls

[mortal crag]

Anti box propaganda

I hate box

Just get gaze and heart myth track

[viscid fossil]

tbf it lined up with every like 2nd avatar on fury

[ionic mica]

if box was always with ravager then maybe... but 2min as warr is sad

[viscid fossil]

so was okayish

[mortal crag]

[ionic mica]

??

it shouldnt

[viscid fossil]

in raid environment i mean

[mortal crag]

U get Ava I think every 45s ish?

[viscid fossil]

it was ok

[mortal crag]

Shouldn't really line up

[ionic mica]

yeah

[viscid fossil]

you move, you hold for some mechanic

[ionic mica]

2min felt vbad for raid generally

[viscid fossil]

i didnt hate it

[slow saddle]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

[mortal crag]

Idk I don't recall holding ava that much

[ionic mica]

like salad box comes up halfway through the spin xD

[mortal crag]

As fury

[slow saddle]

Can i have a Buff to ST

like jesus

[mortal crag]

No gokke go play colossus

[slow saddle]

its depressing playing with warlocks

[mortal crag]

You'll do tank dps and you'll enjoy it!

[slow saddle]

well as collosus CAN I GET A FACKIN BUFF TO ST

[reef bone]

My trinkets are now Umbral Plume > Light company Guidon > Gaze > Radiant Plume > Heart according to droptomizer

[mortal crag]

https://tenor.com/view/mortal-strike-terry-crews-wo-w-warrior-gif-18597900

[slow saddle]

15% buff to MS PLEASE

[mortal crag]

What kinda wack sim are u doing

[slow saddle]

to start

[mortal crag]

Holy cooked

[viscid fossil]

man i passed on a fury guidon weeks ago

[slow saddle]

nono guidion seems to be better now

[mortal crag]

How is gaze not first

[viscid fossil]

from now on i will just roll everything

fuck everyone else

[mortal crag]

MYTH GAZE AND HEART ENJOYER

[reef bone]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/9pW9du1tkJ6DQSCCdJWyhX

🤷‍♂️

[slow saddle]

like idc

at this time

ill take same

[lusty slate]

Umbral plume - heart than gaze for me , idk

[slow saddle]

passive trinkets are king

y umbral plume mythic i wont c

so

skip that one

[flat willow]

just for that, -5% damage to mortal strike for no reason on colossus

wait they already did that

another 5% st buff to devorer

[slow saddle]

and 5% uhdk and 8% aoe

[wet current]

dang are you on the dev team?

[mortal crag]

Ah ok ur stats r off

[wet current]

lol

[mortal crag]

That's probably why

[slow saddle]

well TBF Atm UHDK is totally bugged

pets dont work 😛

[mortal crag]

Probs cuz stat gap

[kind stag]

they deserve it

[ionic mica]

seems w/e *for me

[kind stag]

they should disable UH for a week actually

[mortal crag]

Like ur off pieces are all bad stats

[ionic mica]

very preference/gear reliant

[viscid fossil]

well i do like m+ and for that box is fine

and very noticeable

[mortal crag]

You'll never catch me box in m+

[slow saddle]

U will never seee

beloran trinket

i mean

are u

[bold rivet]

I just CBA running any on-use trinket with current iteration of both arms and fury

[slow saddle]

where as gaze i can get this week

[slow saddle]

same

CDR for days

[mortal crag]

Same

[slow saddle]

i LOVE static

[mortal crag]

Imposs to play any on use

[slow saddle]

cds

[mortal crag]

Giga unfun

[slow saddle]

i hate AM

[mortal crag]

I LOVE cdr

[wet current]

what do you mean arms has ST issues. tier lists on icy-veins moved arms to A tier in raid lol

[slow saddle]

i mean Guidion works in M+

[mortal crag]

I LOVE CDR

[viscid fossil]

the worst thing is that this vault doesnt boost my ilvl bc i have myth shit trinkets

[slow saddle]

❤️

[mortal crag]

Colossus arms has tank st

[slow saddle]

i love being good at 2 fights

in raid that skews entire raid

[mortal crag]

Ye

[wet current]

lol /s

[slow saddle]

so now we can SUCK at 6 bosses

and LIKE IT

[reef birch]

is there a general consensus whether arms or fury is better for m+ after patch?

[slow saddle]

i mean its not rly close

collosus got bufed

u play collosus

IF u are in a good team

if not fr just play fury

[viscid fossil]

not pressing anything is "fun" now

got it

[slow saddle]

u will never enjoy the power of arms

the funnel part in pugs is not happening

[viscid fossil]

boomer ass takes

[slow saddle]

so then arms suck ass

[fresh spire]

Missing about 5% aoe dps because fevour not applying wounds

Fuckin shit ass game

[slow saddle]

and st ? 😄

[fresh spire]

Broke the animation

I mean St slams working

Cleave slam isnt

[slow saddle]

yeah so

they fuck us !!!

[thick hamlet]

we got bugs?

[mortal crag]

Just don't put

Pug

[fresh spire]

Yep

[viscid fossil]

warrior is in a state where it doesnt matter anymore bro, just have fun

[mortal crag]

180 overall skyreach 19

[fresh spire]

Biggest bug is fob not having an animation. Immersion ruined

Shit all worked fine on ptr so who fucking knows why it's broke now

[thick hamlet]

wait does warrior actually have bugs this patch?

[mortal crag]

Yes

And they're not good bugs

[viscid fossil]

is reap the storm confirmed buggynow

or was that feelscraft erlier

[dark onyx]

Absurd that you can go what feels like minutes without a single SD proc

[sullen raft]

Does the reroll make heroic raid drop myth track now?

[elder patrol]

Whats the bugs on arms bro ?

[viscid fossil]

why would it

[sullen raft]

M10 drop myth track if you reroll or at least that's what i've been told

I am not claiming it's true, inb4 rage

[ionic mica]

the bonus rolls give you the vault ilvl/track for that content

[viscid fossil]

nah its like vault.

[sullen raft]

Ahhh duh, make sense. Thanks!

[viscid fossil]

m+ gives you mythtrack ofc, if you roll a hc chimaerus yuo get chance for hc loot

[ionic mica]

you can even use it on prey and delves i think? lmao

[viscid fossil]

oof

if mean thx blizz

good for tmog later on

[ionic mica]

im sure there is a cringe spec out there that has bis delve or prey loot

[viscid fossil]

it doesnt go high enough

so doubt

[sullen raft]

Yeah, idk why i didn't think about vault ilvl reward. It's morning, need my coffee.

[ionic mica]

outside of crafting i think my brew has bis from there

no crit mast or crit vers necks

but yeah just bad ilvl

[viscid fossil]

[torn minnow]

arm slayer sim lower than thane as ST so im not sure to swap, are sims just weirds, or maybe my stats arent the best for arms

[slow saddle]

No its pretty accurate

Man for the first time in a long while i just wanna take.a break until warrior is decent

The st desparity of this tuning is just craaaaaaaazy

[reef bone]

If I already have craftwed weapon + bracers with emeblishements. Is the crafted cloak still worth crafting? Its in the BIS list but obviously I wouldn't be able to embelish it

[slow saddle]

U can remove emb from wep

U could also just craft a neck

If u arent raidinf

[unreal river]

do we go same old m+ colossus spec now for keys? just no slayer anymore

[reef bone]

I'm raiding but we're just starting Mythic

do you remove emb with recrafting?

[astral yarrow]

yeah you recraft the weapon with a glitter thing or whatever its called in the embellishment slot when sending the work order

some vendor near the crafting area should sell it

[sullen raft]

Do you need the crest again or does it stay the same ilvl?

[scenic cedar]

so we have new Demolish -5 s (was 2) if we have cap stacs.
So we need new rule, use demolish without collos strike?
If Demolish is ready and Colossus Smash is > 10s on CD, cast it without Colossus. What do u think?

[hasty pumice]

Warrior is decent though

[dim basalt]

yeah just send it

[astral yarrow]

if you like keys, yea

[rancid robin]

Was wondering if since the CD refresh is way bigger shouldn't we put MS higher in our prio list

[upper sparrow]

quit dooming

[hasty pumice]

You're still wanted in most raids for battle shout, you're still not complete garbage and the gameplay from all specs is fine. Just make the best out of it man and don't compare your dick to others

You're in the raid, you've got in, so focus on performing

Not that UDK is above you

Turn off your details if it bothers you that much and keep focusing on pumping

[calm hollow]

i didnt think i will ever say this, but colo is much more fun than slayer in m+ after the changes

[astral yarrow]

except you are not in cause prot warrior is meta

[wide apex]

I like the minigame of getting more demolish.

[bright zephyr]

I’m sorry guys. I quit warrior since last expansion because “better nerf warrior” and then it became good. Just leveled one last week and got it nerfed again. My warrior curse is affecting everyone

[calm hollow]

you are warming the bench as a dps warrior mate

[zenith sequoia]

Which hero spec is better for raid? I'm thinking colo seems better for both raid and m+ after the changes

[viscid fossil]

nah its dire for raid

damn so far all my addons work

[astral yarrow]

raid is a mix of both, keys is gonna be colossus mostly now

[viscid fossil]

bartender masterrace

[late lantern]

what ilvl does the bonus roll give?

myth track?

[astral yarrow]

great vault equivalent of the content you are doing

so a +10 will give 1/6 myth

[viscid fossil]

whatever you woulda gotten from a normal roll

[astral yarrow]

a +9 will give 6/6 hc

[slow saddle]

I mean

If y only do up 2 paladins

Raids fine

[vapid pine]

Does it care about unlocked raid ilvls?

[viscid fossil]

its nice, you get long bench breaks as warr

[twin oasis]

idk man feels weird sitting on demolish ready and waiting for warbreaker to come back

[astral yarrow]

if you bonus roll crown, you get loot from the boss, so 4/6 myth if thats what you're asking

if not, i dont think i follow

[astral yarrow]

you can just send it at a minor loss

[zenith sequoia]

Which fights are better for slayer and could you help me understand why it's better in those?

[vapid pine]

Yeah, but it doesn't know that I've killed crown and "would've" gotten Gaze on 4/6 myth in vault right?

[astral yarrow]

(gain if you crit) xdd

[twin oasis]

good to know

[torpid acorn]

screw this game

5 in 8 itens.. i bonus roll the ones i already have

[astral yarrow]

no, as you get loot from the boss

[vapid pine]

👍

[mild sierra]

Cant wait to get box on my first roll

[viscid fossil]

dont roll aa

[torpid acorn]

roll pit man, pit is so bis

[mental seal]

got myth box in vault

decided against taking it

cant make me use that shit unless you point a gun to my head

[viscid fossil]

weak minded

[mental seal]

i am

[dim basalt]

real chads use Guidon

[viscid fossil]

real chads use any on use

[dim basalt]

no

[balmy kindle]

same refuse to take it, took shoulders

[viscid fossil]

if you hate on box you deserve to get the speedtrinket in vault

funny how people come in here to seek validation for their bad decisions

[gaunt canyon]

I got gaze and heart in the last week and I miss guidon

Warrior needs his vyvanse button

[astral yarrow]

are you talking hc or mythic

[viscid fossil]

yeah idk where the love for passives comes from. do people never check wcl to see that passives can fuck yuo over royally

[gaunt canyon]

Itd be better if the proc rate was publicly visible

[astral yarrow]

proc rate is on wowhead

[gaunt canyon]

:0

I learn something new against my will everyday

[astral yarrow]

if you're real nerdy, you can check simc data as that is also pulled directly from game

[spark mango]

guys

[gaunt canyon]

Wouldnt you need to have a large sample size from sims to get an accurate rate

[spark mango]

i got duplicate from m+

[charred brook]

Its bugged

[spark mango]

i used 3 bonus loot on pit of saron

2x is ring

[radiant sonnet]

I bonus roll the only item that i dont need 🤣🤣

[torpid acorn]

did you rolled on the same key? like +10 +10 +10?

[spark mango]

are they gonna compensate us?

[astral yarrow]

any trinket that isnt just stats procs a "spell". That spell needs its behavior and numbers from somewhere. That is grabbed from the game

[spark mango]

i took bonus loot out of my vault

[astral yarrow]

no chance

[spark mango]

i'm fucked like this

[astral yarrow]

People who had the crafting bug at the start of the season also got a politely worded "fuck you"

[spark mango]

i did 3 +10s pit

[dim basalt]

tbh the crafting bug was also very hard, if not impossible to follow

This is something else

[spark mango]

oh my god

i took this out of my vault this is really not cool

[astral yarrow]

If they wanted to, i doubt its hard to figure out whether crests were used on a craft versus upgrading an item

[rigid thorn]

is it worth playing arms in raid if i do not have a skyfury?

[spark mango]

bro, if i knew i would use it on another dungeon

[astral yarrow]

they decided the bad pr was better than taking the man power to compensate people

[zenith sequoia]

Heroic

[astral yarrow]

there were plenty of reports of duplicate items from rolls from when servers opened

im sorry though

[spark mango]

yeah but people said if i do same key level i wouldnt get duplicate

[zenith sequoia]

Like basically what I'm wondering is which spec between arms, fury, and either of the hero talents for each will maximize my DPS in my weekly heroic with the boyz

[exotic horizon]

hello guys is there a website to check action hosue price of other server ?

[spark mango]

if you get good procs you still do 5k less than fury

[zenith sequoia]

Dang I thought after the changes arms would pump. Archon shows Colossus arms at the top of the DPS list theoretically, though I know that's with lots of padding

[gaunt canyon]

I think in the respective spec guides you can see avg dps based on talent build

[astral yarrow]

if its just hc i would just play whatever you find more fun since its very much mixed. The fights with adds (dragons, dreamrift dragon, imperator) thane fury is the clear winner. Paladins is colossus arms and rest is probably slayer arms

[zenith sequoia]

And if you ask the guys in the fury chat (I asked them the same question) they said arms is easier because it's not as reliant on 100% uptime like fury is

[gaunt canyon]

i.e im pretty sure colossus is only a big deal on paladins?

[white berry]

There is alot more to think about who does most damage, for example what does arms need in group to do most damage and are those classes good.

[astral yarrow]

it runs the same cooldown reduction from rage spent that fury has, so thats mostly not true

[spark mango]

i will make a ticket but this sucks

i need to change my character, this one is done

[gaunt canyon]

F

[twilit flare]

F

[astral yarrow]

next week you'll have more myth items than what you have crests for

you arent as down bad as you think

[candid kindle]

Why does arms slayer on pure st feels so ass 😆

[twilit flare]

arms st is pure ass

[gaunt canyon]

^

[zenith sequoia]

The other thing they said in the fury chat is that since adds die so quickly in heroic, arms is better than fury because you won't get max value out of thane's thunder blasts

[astral yarrow]

dps warrior is pure ass

[astral yarrow]

only if you are slow at stealing the pad

[zenith sequoia]

Fair hah

[astral yarrow]

but you can just go here https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/46?class=Warrior&difficulty=4 and see what the actual data says

instead of asking dumdums on skyhold

[gaunt canyon]

Warrior dps is about aura and vibes

[zenith sequoia]

I started by looking there but the top logs are all over the place and mostly padded or specific setups for those players

[astral yarrow]

on the bench

but bench vibes are good in silvermoon

[zenith sequoia]

I really don't think this is true, it's just early in the xpac. Warrior scales hard. S3 of TWW warriors were gods at dps, just like they are at the end of every xpac. This is also why monk tank is FotM - it always is at the beginning of an xpac when stagger matters most, but by the end of the xpac the shield boys have goated gear

[astral yarrow]

this scaling thing needs to die man

we scale really well with aura buffs and mechanics changes

[white berry]

Most of classes scale nowdays. Warrior had good tier set on TWW S3 and fury was versatile to lots of combat situations.

[zenith sequoia]

Really? It's like.. one of the foundational aspects of world of Warcraft lol. Better items = better damage. And that matters most for the classes that actually hit things with their weapons and not use them as stat sticks

I know they try to flatten it but still

[kindred forge]

took mythic 272 puzzle box out of vault, now onto pit for bonus rolls i guess

[spark mango]

i lost 4 weeks of start to iran usa war, then when after 4 weeks i got 90 a guild a told me if i get gear fast they take me to mythic to kill 4 bosses, i converted some of my mythic crests to heroic because i wouldnt earn heroic from +10. i got 0 loot from the 4 bosses i killed, and in vault i got a leg, this week vault i had 2 feets in vault while i got mine crafted, so i got this bonus loot and got 2 ring and 1 chest from it

this char seems so dead to continue ojn

[tall viper]

Converting myth to hero is even worse than rolling double ring lel

[spark mango]

in my defense i never thought i would mythic raid this tier and i thought i had more, but now its abundance of mythic crests

[ionic mica]

wait for a fix before doing your bonus rolls

[vast hinge]

Do i take BIS ring or shoulders? Shoulders sim higher at max level but i dont really ahve the crests to upgrade

[white berry]

Nothing of that matters in couple weeks, if you play one spec you will have more bonus rolls than you need most probably.

[viscid fossil]

scaling is a myth since normalized rage etc

[slow saddle]

Next week will give u the items u need then

[twilit flare]

MY EYES

[viscid fossil]

the scaling happens if blizz decides its time

its never time tho

[twilit flare]

shoulders for sure

[slow saddle]

Ring ring

[astral yarrow]

the only thing that really matters is tuning and fight design. If your class is dogshit on ST for first raid, no class changes or tier set for ST, your class is still dogshit for ST in second raid

no amount of stats will help with that

there no longer is breakpoints where you get noticeable damage

[hasty pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/uncanny-cat-golf-uncanny-cat-peak-rank-gif-7591717969084252854

man wtf

[mortal crag]

huh

[hasty pumice]

there's 1 19 up that I need and 0 20 keys

[mortal crag]

i dont feel like warriors scale

at all actually

[spark mango]

with 3 bonus loot i got 2 rings and a chest, next week instead of weapon from pos i'll get a cloak and a shoulder

[mortal crag]

i feel the opposite

[hasty pumice]

@mortal crag post some keys man

[slow saddle]

And thats warrior 30 % behind uhdk in st

[mortal crag]

bruh i havent even

[astral yarrow]

there are lots of small ones (think extra auto attack in CS window, extra global), but nothing like there was in MoP

[mortal crag]

did my 3 m+

to get the 6/6 for voidcore thing

i woke up uhh

3 hrs ago

[hasty pumice]

:reside

[mortal crag]

went gym

[hasty pumice]

i dont have residentsleeper here

[ashen night]

is slayer or col more likely to do more dmg if i play pug 10s?

[spark mango]

so all of people who used their bonus loot because blizzard said no duplicate are royally fucked?

so blue post means nothing now

[astral yarrow]

most likely

[slow saddle]

Yup

But also sending shit on patch day😆😆😅

[viscid fossil]

i meaaaaaaaaaan.... trusting in blizz stuff day one

whos to blame

[hasty pumice]

im coming for you

4 keys away

[viscid fossil]

fool me once, shame onthem... fool me 3000 times, shame on me?

[hasty pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/melvin-meme-cat-cat-meme-melvin-meme-meme-melvin-gif-5576245011655696514

[mortal crag]

why would u want

to be better than a friend

we need to be together

not against one another, brother

https://klipy.com/gifs/handshake-of-the-gods--k01KPTNDQ406B51CN93EH497WSZ

[hasty pumice]

if you're with me, lend me a spot in your group on occasion instead of yours

what you do for a friend right?

[mortal crag]

i mean sure

but ig ot hit by a car like 2 weeks ago

[hasty pumice]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1023925715978178590/1336257368123506738/1095147384390041651.gif

[mortal crag]

and im online vey often

KEKW

[viscid fossil]

ikr

[flat willow]

Blizzard wouldn't lie to me

Say it's not true

[mortal crag]

also my feral and rogue raid 5 days a week

and my rogue just has surgergy

so hes benched til weekende tc

past week was giga scuffk eys

[flat willow]

Half the specs with their damage being scuffed by bugs

Always a great time

[pulsar hollow]

Is Arms harder to play than Fury

[flat willow]

Your ability might work, it might not

[lime otter]

can't pick 🙁

[hasty pumice]

100%

raid arms isnt that bad but for M+ there's a ton of repositioning and CD usage that go into it

cause cleave has tiny pp range

fury you cant r eally miss your AoE

[pulsar hollow]

Challenge accepted

[hasty pumice]

it might feel clunky but

I'd call it nuanced with decision making

rather than clunky

[viscid fossil]

yea

yeah pulling off arms is more rewarding than fury for sue

[gaunt canyon]

I think the hypes a little overpronounced

Ill never play with the best of the best ultra minmaxed so ill do fine simply on the assumption that theres never gonna be a shortage of people that dont do everything perfect and metaslave

God bless warrior

[viscid fossil]

wait so bshout is unique and ppl still bench warriors?

[mortal crag]

no

[astral yarrow]

yeah sometimes it blows to play with good players

[mortal crag]

i will die ont his hill

arms is giga easy this patch

easier than fury

fury feels worse

[astral yarrow]

prot warrior good

[mortal crag]

(unless colo ST no sham)

[astral yarrow]

dps warrior not good

[viscid fossil]

ah true xd

have only seen m+ rankings tbh, thought its all monk

[clever crag]

Prot is like top 2

[viscid fossil]

why

you have one condition on fury bro

[astral yarrow]

what you press nearly doesnt matter as long as you press cleave on cooldown

[gaunt canyon]

I would sooner be king of the mids than have my ego bruised by playing with good players

[astral yarrow]

and you are sandbagging ST, so people dont see that anyway xd

[viscid fossil]

the cleave reliance is a bit cringe

[gaunt canyon]

Can I ask why

[viscid fossil]

but theres still way more to track than fury i feel

[astral yarrow]

I cant play with people that suck. HC raid is first week content and mythic is done week 4 or 5

[mild dagger]

Looking for some advice on the future use of my voidcore bonus ilvl thing. I have both a myth crafted weapon as well as a 6/6 myth weapon. Raidbots suggests I can use it on the crafted weapon and increase to 295. I feel like 295 + the Sigil Hunt embellishment might be better than a 298 without the embellishment?

Obviously if I do the 298 weapon I'd craft a new embellishment elsewhere, but not sure if that is enough to bridge the gap.

[viscid fossil]

bc cleave is giga busted

and nothign comes close on dmg

[astral yarrow]

if you do 45k or 48k ST dps doesnt matter

no one will notice

[gaunt canyon]

I thought colo was supposed to lean on ms in st

[deft bluff]

ey gang

am i good just running the icy veins build for like 15s and suhc

[viscid fossil]

i picked up retail so i dont have a guild but i feel like HC week 1 should be achievable

for people who played video games before

[calm hollow]

vers gone, feelsgood

[astral yarrow]

thats a very high bar

[viscid fossil]

and wow for 3 months

[mortal crag]

arms is way easier

simple as

whats ur one fury condition then?

[radiant patio]

HC week 1 is non realistic unless you just spam m0 before the raid is out and then you raid daily

[viscid fossil]

rage above or below 100/110

send x, if not y

[mortal crag]

theres more

[viscid fossil]

not counting tclap stacks

[gaunt canyon]

Fury is comfy and I dont have to physically press rend

[viscid fossil]

thats so braindead

[gaunt canyon]

Rend burns my finger it hurts so much

[mortal crag]

ur looking at it from a pure patchwerk pov

what happens in an actual fight?

if u lose uptime on fury

ur dead

[astral yarrow]

we did 2 sets of 8 m0s and raid 3 times a week

[mortal crag]

mechanically* dead

[gaunt canyon]

Simply dont lose uptime

[mortal crag]

sure

im a diehard fury gamer