arms

[nova marsh]

Colo pure st feels pretty okay now

[gentle gyro]

Don't get my hopes up ok

[nova marsh]

It's not good

Hell no

Still has a ways to go

But it's....a bit above tank st

at least thats how I feel after a pit

[gentle gyro]

We are still prolly 20% behind literally every other spec

[languid torrent]

Interesting. Yea quite a few of my guildies were simming above 100k this week and im like fuck I haven't broke 90k almost there once I get my hero crest upgrades done

[nova marsh]

yeahhhh

Arms's ST needs god in general

[languid torrent]

Real and true

[gentle gyro]

Anyways, nerf cleave first

[nova marsh]

eh yeah

[languid torrent]

Add the 3rd charge back, nerf the dam, and buff MS by 100%

[stable fiber]

this seems

solid

[nova marsh]

Idk abiut 100%

[stable fiber]

but not really much boss damage

lmao

[iron ibex]

how long did the maintenance last for NA?

[nova marsh]

But Ms does need it's traditional buff

[gentle gyro]

What about other 126125 buttons? Why does arms have to be cleave / MS only?

[languid torrent]

🦹

[nova marsh]

8 hours

[stable fiber]

er crystal damage

[nova marsh]

Lmao

[iron ibex]

omg

[nova marsh]

it usually isn't that bad for EU

to my knowledge but idk I don't play EU

[languid torrent]

Well true. Lets buff slam by 250% so we dont actually press MS now just slam

[gentle gyro]

Overpower and rend feel useless damage wise

[vapid spire]

At this point i'm guessing Mr Krabs is monitoring wow

[nova marsh]

I kinda disagree on OP

Rend yes

[languid torrent]

Yea ngl, i loathe pressing rend

[gentle gyro]

Just another stepping stone for tactician

[nova marsh]

I think OP is....pretty okay in the spot it is

[gentle gyro]

But no damage in ST

[nova marsh]

again

arms in general rn

[gentle gyro]

Can't have it all

[nova marsh]

OP is in a tricky spot to me

because of opportunist

[gentle gyro]

As long as we are not in D tier again in s2

it will happen

[languid torrent]

Yea you can. Bro hasn't played demo lock

[gentle gyro]

Or ret

or Udk

[languid torrent]

Ong tho

[gentle gyro]

Or idk what else

[languid torrent]

Why does heroic strike have to cost rage

[gentle gyro]

for fuck sake

Why us

[languid torrent]

Like sure all this other shit w/e. Why does heroic strike need to cost rage. It 100% should be free

[nova marsh]

LMAFO

Imagine getting invited

[languid torrent]

Ill die on that hill man

[nova marsh]

and then kicked because they forgot lust

LOL

[languid torrent]

Big if tru

[nova marsh]

I just need last pit

then can sleep lol

Absoutlely MASSIVE gamba rn

I'm gonna go crazy if I get hammer

[languid torrent]

I gambled on chim and worth it

[gentle gyro]

What should warr lust be called?

If it's ever in the game

[stable fiber]

@minor gust this seems really good btw

how much do i lose in the execute phase

[languid torrent]

Idk, they will just remove it and make sure evokers get two lusts

[mortal rivet]

i was surprised to see the voidclaw gauntlets recommended for arms

[stable fiber]

doing like 130-150k in p1 instead of 110-130k

[languid torrent]

Rip rally

[gentle gyro]

Stop giving them ideas

[nova marsh]

It's all on the line tn

[vapid spire]

We should get chains to get a pull like Grip on dks

[nova marsh]

to be fair

they've tried that

MANY TIMES

[spring vale]

Champion spear was so ass

[vapid spire]

Tried What ? the chain ?

[nova marsh]

Yes

In both DF and Midnight alphas

Champion's spear and leap

Both were....kinda ass

[sand totem]

Hey guys, need some input.
I cant get droptimizer to display anything other than weapons and trinkets. Is it a skill issue on my end?

[vapid spire]

They need a chain hook like they gave many bosses

We just throw it and yoink

[flat willow]

some kind of

grip of death

a death grip, if you will

[vapid spire]

Yeah

They could call it the Yoink chain for all i care

[flat willow]

and maybe, spell reflect could make us immune to magical debuffs when we press it

and we could replace charge with summoning a mount

for 10 seconds

[sand totem]

Would you press it if it was "Uwuchain" and made a cat meow when you pressed it?

[nova marsh]

Get out of here

[vapid spire]

https://giphy.com/gifs/kratos-5oOzvY2shzX4A

[nova marsh]

Stop trying to make my warrior a fucking dk

[gentle gyro]

stop

https://tenor.com/view/it's-time-to-stop-gif-9416155803997449261

[nova marsh]

Sir archeus is at the end of the hallway

[vapid spire]

https://giphy.com/gifs/horny-benjammins-horni-K6WXi03cXfpfearoto

[latent moss]

yes

would castsequence macro it to everything

[stable fiber]

I HAVE DISCOVERED HOW TO MAKE ARMS (OK)

but idk how much you lose in execute

[latent moss]

do u have both ct

[flat willow]

ok in what

[latent moss]

lura

[stable fiber]

on mythic lura

[flat willow]

interesting

[stable fiber]

doing 140-150k

(OK)

in p1

[minor gust]

cant sim in raid right now

trying to watch you while I raid

[stable fiber]

this page in execute vs normal st page in execute @latent moss

[vapid spire]

I saw a shadowpriest do 400k dps on Heroic Crown i feel powerless

[stable fiber]

CcEAjLzRlq54bI5v+r8Sr9Xw4jZmZmFz8AzMzAAAAMMNMzYmxyMzMzgxMDAAAAgxyMDIMWWGYBMgZYCZGsBMDmtBz2MbDwMDAzYYA

[wind hatch]

i am getting some absolutely nasty pulls tionight

[minor gust]

my Chim was eh and Saladbar good like always. Was not in for first 2 bosses now its dragons time

[wind hatch]

i got 107k on vorasius

110k on heroic midnight falls

[cosmic pecan]

Are we sending demolish on cd ? Or are we holding for CS everytime cause it’s only like 15 seconds ish

[nova marsh]

Show me that log what the fuck

[wind hatch]

surely I get a free 100

[frail helm]

he surely means p1

[spice minnow]

is number 3 even available this tier? its not on raidbots or ingame journal

[gentle gyro]

Okay guys, I have a serious question for everyone.
Every day I see people complaining that this is the easiest season in the history of modern wow, made for complete casuals. But is it really?
Is the content itself just piss easy or the keys are just undertuned for current ilvl (+15 feels like +11 etc)?
Raids don't seem that easy at all compared to previous seasons.

[nova marsh]

Im sure but etf

[nova marsh]

Its not. But its the hammer from pit

[spice minnow]

yeah thats what i assumed

[nova marsh]

The axe is from pit too just not in current loot pool

[livid basin]

https://www.twitch.tv/bondbl/clip/ArborealCoweringWolfGOWSkull-ZSNKIrPQbOZngfo7

poor war

[nova marsh]

He's right

But damn the flaming is rough

[livid basin]

i mean he kinda knows the feel, its unreal how bad without funnel is warrior st

on demolisher

when u go to last boss and u got no stacks nothing

if tank dont funnel for you

[nova marsh]

If you dont have stacks on pull you just afk the fight

[vapid spire]

Steady 400k on P1 and i think he was around 170ish during P3

[livid basin]

😄

[nova marsh]

Its actually so bad

[nova marsh]

Insanity

[wind hatch]

crown parsing is just meme

its all just p1 damage

[hybrid needle]

Was that demolock afk or something

[vapid spire]

Idk everyone dps was good, but the priest, god damn

[harsh field]

patch notes says practiced strikes is 15% now but it doesnt say what it was before... is that a buff or nerf?

[minor gust]

nerf

[harsh field]

what was it before?

[minor gust]

20

[gentle gyro]

Nerfs everywhere

what are they even doin

buffing devo and udk

[nova marsh]

Biggest rework i think was udk

And devourer is the new spex

So blizz is forcing them to be meta just like in df s2

[gentle gyro]

I am talking about 12.0.5

[nova marsh]

Im aware!

[gentle gyro]

they buffed them even more in multitarget

[robust cypress]

was arms changed at all this patch?

[stable fiber]

not the worst in p1, was higher b4 our hutner went back to mm

im a big fan of this cleave shit

[nova marsh]

Yes

Like I said

[stuck axle]

do you still take deep wounds?

or some other talent in m+?

[nova marsh]

Blizz wants big reworks and new specs to be meta

[stable fiber]

middle of the pack boss damage

[nova marsh]

Just like Aug was

[wind hatch]

what are you running?

[nova marsh]

And they werent good enough

[olive nest]

you cleaving on dragons?

[stable fiber]

light cleave talents on mythic lura

instead of full st

[olive nest]

ohh ic

[nova marsh]

Genuinely thou isk what the fuck balance is this season

[wind hatch]

like collat + fob?

[stable fiber]

with fob you can funnel in p1

yeah collat and fob

collat might be bad actually

good comms

do i put it into fatal mark or bb

sim question ig

[wind hatch]

prob fatal mark but ya sim

[stable fiber]

im feelscrafting hard rn

but it feels good

[gentle gyro]

TLT Arms rework maybe?

[wind hatch]

feelycrafters stay winning

[nova marsh]

This has been the cope since TWW

[wind hatch]

arms dont even need a rework

[latent moss]

df*

[gentle gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/no-noooo-british-cop-screaming-no-despair-crying-gif-14408871079120163442

[nova marsh]

Na im sorry

It does

[gentle gyro]

what is he even saying??

[latent moss]

it 100% does

[nova marsh]

This spec is stuck in the stone age

[minor gust]

12.05 colo dragons

[wind hatch]

if my rank 1 on vorasius actually sticks imma be happy

prob not tho

[minor gust]

🙏

[rose ibex]

most frozen of bozos, did the slayer build change at all after the patch?

[flat willow]

the problem with an arms rework is that you have a good chance to end up with ret paladin 5.0

[rose ibex]

for M+

[flat willow]

my conspiracy theory is that blizzard plans to make every melee into a ret clone eventually

after all, ret is so popular

must mean it's good

[wind hatch]

please no

this is why I want them to just leave it

fix our rage maybe remove ravager or smth and im happy

[gentle gyro]

.

[minor gust]

all that matters is I beat Swordish

[minor gust]

just swapping to opp instead of FF

[viscid fossil]

they cant give warr a 2nd, higher value resource so it gets no love

[nova marsh]

Then we're a dk or rogue clone

[viscid fossil]

everyone has something, holy power, chi, cp etc

runes

[hidden meadow]

We have rage

[nova marsh]

I dont feel like its nessisary

[flat willow]

holy power doesn't count, or it means you'd count mana as a ressource for ret paladins

[gentle gyro]

please no

[flat willow]

and i don't think ret paladins went oom since mop

[steep gate]

It feels impossible to do good damage in keys with a bad tank.

Tank pulls 3 mobs. (me waiting forever for tank to pull more)

Finally press warbreaker

Tank pulls 4 more mobs.

Every time...

[nova marsh]

And also I dont think arms needs a second resource to be good

[rose ibex]

sorry im confused. what talents are those?

[viscid fossil]

"mortal strike now generates one dragon point"

[nova marsh]

The choice node in slayer

[gentle gyro]

Yep, that's me, 120k overall, yep skill issue on my end, yep

[nova marsh]

...there are two arent they

[viscid fossil]

no i think they see warr as too easy to be good

[nova marsh]

Lmao

[harsh field]

is it worth it to cast demolish in aoe now?

[flat willow]

I do think blizzard fears the mighty woyers

[nova marsh]

It...always...was? Huh?

[flat willow]

when they buff unholy dk it's like

" yeah upgrade the damage of their main cast by 50000000% "

when they buff warrior its generally more like " yeah hmmm, increase the damage of mortal strike by 10% but nerf something to not make that too powerful "

[gentle gyro]

Or just make tierset better than any warrior set ever

[rose ibex]

OHHHHH

no wonder I couldn't find it

[viscid fossil]

well with uhdk they have to bring their awful rework to people as its been said earlier

[nova marsh]

Ye

[rose ibex]

or notice any changes in the builds

[nova marsh]

...wow that helped lol

[flat willow]

wait what did you do with demolish before the patch

[viscid fossil]

and deva is new, GOTTA check that out bro

[keen siren]

Yeah lol that happens all the time to me

[rose ibex]

and then OP > MS now?

for prio?

[viscid fossil]

yuro servers still down lol

[wind hatch]

i didnt expect the bladestorm buff to feel as impactful as it does

[nova marsh]

On tacti procs I think but I haven't looked at slarms yet

[smoky kayak]

tues night on a fresh patch... good luck!

[harsh field]

ty!

[harsh field]

my brother said to not use it on aoe and cleave instead 🤷‍♂️

[flat willow]

[gentle gyro]

bro just let me in

[wind hatch]

best time to cheese 100 parses lol

i got 2 last season

[nova marsh]

Your brother is actually clueless. Demolish is like half our aoe damage

[gentle gyro]

Let me get some stuff from the vault that I do not need

[viscid fossil]

yeah man, let me get disappointed by my vault and class rn

[harsh field]

so demolish instead of ravager now?

[gentle gyro]

both

You got Merciless Bonegrinder baked in your ravager now

[nova marsh]

Youre not replacing demo or ravager in the rotation

[harsh field]

not enough buttons for both 🙁 can i macro them together?

[gentle gyro]

50% cleave damage during it's duration

[nova marsh]

No

[shy cairn]

beast mastery being amazing all the time tho.

[nova marsh]

Maybe macro avatar to cs

Tbh after playing rogue i dont think i can complain about keybinds anymore

[viscid fossil]

thats bc the bm playerbase is very special and blizz is very inclusive with the 1 button rotation and everything

[smoky kayak]

they're usually very fake because they don't lock in until tomorrow

[smoky kayak]

this has to be bait lmao

[wind hatch]

yeah what I mean is actually finishing with one

[viscid fossil]

if you had to pick one bc of a lack of buttons, which would you choose

[wind hatch]

just because the pool of parses is so low

[flat willow]

Honestly if you don't like ravager and demolish you should play slayer

[gentle gyro]

but it's bad

[stable fiber]

BS isnt much better then ravager

[viscid fossil]

nono he wasnt using demolish, difference

[gentle gyro]

what an incredible take brother

[flat willow]

You'll still do good damage

And there's a bunch of diehard slayers in the discord to guide you on that path

[vast helm]

waiting for new tuning for sure.

[flat willow]

yes

still waiting on the 4th buffs to unholy and dev dh

ohhhhh, dev dh

I just understood why it's so good

[west fable]

d-e-v

[gentle gyro]

watched 3900 rio player yesterday pressing 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 3 2

At least someone is having fun

[viscid fossil]

i just wish the tier set helmet didnt have a pony tail and tusks

guess the name needs to be changed

[flat willow]

The pony tail is okay, I do think the tier set would look a lot better without all the tusks

Just a nice set of HD plate

[livid basin]

https://www.reddit.com/r/wow/s/tZqWZvz5Dr

[flat willow]

Pretty difficult to find

[livid basin]

Hahahahahahahahah

Avoidance leech speed items duplicated items incoming

I guess not rolling till that is fixed or smth

[viscid fossil]

bro its burning

[flat willow]

Yeah it's hot

[livid basin]

If you go for gaze bonus roll there is a chance you get same items with leech avoidance speed

[flat willow]

Like me

[gentle gyro]

Always the NA players getting the goodies before shit gets patched fml

[viscid fossil]

Unfortunately GMs will not be able to reset coins and delete items

[flat willow]

They'll delete the items

But won't give you your coins back

[livid basin]

☠️

[viscid fossil]

no they leave you with the 50g vendor gold, they arent cruel

[exotic horizon]

When dose vault open in eu ?

[livid basin]

So if there is 3 items to bonus roll means you have 12 options of items to roll

With bonus stats

Damn

[flat willow]

[runic heath]

i dunno why but arms is feeling clunkier than normal

cant be just me

[viscid fossil]

when you pay another half year sub in advance

why the hell is it taking this long

[flat willow]

Cuz NA hasn't finished beta testing

Apparently half the features aren't working

[raw sapphire]

Idk what everyones thoughts are but I do not like slayer anymore. It is somehow more rng based than it was before

[wind hatch]

a couple hours ago in raid people were just getting dced mid pull

lmao

[gentle gyro]

indie company btw

[runic heath]

yes yes, time to play gentleman's colossus

[raw sapphire]

I just tried it to test and never playing slayer again going back to colossus

[gentle gyro]

Pretty sure it is completely dead now

[raw sapphire]

so dependent on sudden death procs

[gentle gyro]

they had no reason doing that they did

Slayer was never even that good to begin with

[raw sapphire]

if you dont have bladestorm you do no damage

[gentle gyro]

Completely unwarranted change

[viscid fossil]

damn

[flat willow]

yeah just reading the slayer changes felt very weird, they put more power directly into bladestorm with the 20% buff, but also indirectly by removing reap from ms. The worst part about slayer was already not getting good SD rng but they just amplified it so much

before when sd screwed you over, you could get good MS rng

now when sd screw you over you get no reap the storm, no bs cdr

and no maiden

[plain solstice]

😎

[viscid fossil]

👆

[pulsar frost]

i have myth guidon, do i try heart next week or is it finally time for keys

ik theres lots of pit dungeons in my future

[glacial pebble]

does colossus feel weaker? why am i not bursting as much?

[elder path]

does anyone else have a bug where you just cant hear your abilities hitting your target?

my mojo is cooked bc i can only hear the swing part of the sfx and not the actual hits

[glacial pebble]

yes

[elder path]

ok just had to make sure i wasnt alone

[maiden apex]

Agree. The difference in dps for me with and without procs is huge. As the timing has to be good. And I know whenever I have good procs we gonna mess up the pull...

[lime ruin]

Arterial bleed worth in M+?

[urban fjord]

is fury just better now in m+, colossus feels really bad rn and it should feel better than yesterday

[frail helm]

why would colossus feel bad now?

[urban fjord]

i dont know thats what im saying

it just feels off

slayer feels REAL bad

[maiden apex]

Maybe cause cleave was slightly nerfed?

[smoky kayak]

its better across the board, what exactly feels bad?

[frail helm]

colossus might feel weird because your demolish doesn't perfectly line up with smash anymore

[hushed topaz]

Everyone just sending demolish on cd now except if cs is up soon?

[smoky kayak]

no, send it with CS

I mean you can use it on cooldown, but it's best to use during CS

[flat willow]

col lost 5% damage on cleave, deepwound and 1 cleave cast on the opener, so the initial burst should be a bit lower

maybe that's why it feels worse, I don't know I haven't tested it myself

[frail helm]

to be clear, you should be sending 2 demolishes per smash now right?

with all the extra cdr

[lime ruin]

Using it off cooldown itsn't much of a DPS loss so you can just do that if you want

[wind hatch]

Personally colossus has been feeling great today

[raw sapphire]

if rng doesnt screw me im able to get 2 demolishs on cs window

[glacial pebble]

maybe slayer is the play?

[lime ruin]

if my CS is 20 secoonds or more off CD I send demolish but idk if that's the best way to play it yet

[upper shadow]

how to do good colossus ST dmg

[frail helm]

I think this is correct, because your next demolish will be in your smash window

[smoky kayak]

no

[raw sapphire]

even with good rng?

[frail helm]

I mean, how is this a buff then?

if we are just sitting on demolish for 15-20 seconds

[hard juniper]

More cdr on it in st honestly is the only benefit I see. And the slam deeps wounds change is the major one

[smoky kayak]

more like 4% and Demo also applies Deep Wounds

[torpid acorn]

each hit?

[smoky kayak]

you can get 2 Demos during CS, you do not always get 2 Demos per CS

[neon shale]

Guys i feel weaker....

[maiden apex]

Do we have new talent setups for colossus with the changes? Both st/m+ and cleave.

[raw sapphire]

in 3+ im usually getting demolish up if i can get decent ms procs

[neon shale]

Also is anyone elses sound all fucked

[smoky kayak]

and it's a buff because you're able to more consistently have Demo at 10 stacks by the time CS comes off CD, which leads to better overlaps of its various buffs for the cleave spam

[hard juniper]

It felt like I had to kind of over prio mortal strike to 100% get the 2nd one. Felt very not worth it

[smoky kayak]

the patch also wasn't an overall buff; Colossus lost a small amount of multitarget in exchange for gaining single target

[smoky kayak]

should be prioritizing Mortal Strike anyway

[urban fjord]

the ST buff isnt something im feeling in keys, it does feel good getting a 2 demo in a CS or beign able to send demolish and it back up for next CS window

this is entirely feelycraft

[smoky kayak]

you should notice it on bosses

[wind hatch]

i've DEFINITELY noticed on bosses

[smoky kayak]

and I mean you can send demo straight on cd if you want to, it's just not particularly better - it's only minorly worse though

[raw sapphire]

im getting demolish with like 15-20 seconds before cs comes up

feels kind of bad

[neon shale]

im noticcing the aoe lloss more thn the st gain

[urban fjord]

if you have 2+ targets send it

it will be back up next CS window

[smoky kayak]

that's not always true

[wind hatch]

sometimes because of tier set you will still have cs barely up

[cyan skiff]

in 5+ always cleave > ms? no way to efficiently get stacks quicker weaving ms in?

[wind hatch]

and you can send it

[smoky kayak]

Cleave has a CD, so there's always time to weave in MS

[glacial pebble]

how does slayer feel

[cyan skiff]

i'm sorry, i meant after CS @smoky kayak

[glacial pebble]

playable

or nah

[lime ruin]

what does this mean. The buff was to gettinng demo off cooldown when you're already at 10 stacks.

you get 10 stacks the same speed

and CS debuffs the enemies you're hitting

[hard juniper]

But need less time after you get to 10

[lime ruin]

Demolish*

[neon shale]

did they change sound effects

[urban fjord]

sounds fucked

[smoky kayak]

yes, but that only matters if Demo is also off CD

[exotic horizon]

Any changes on warrior this patch or we are safe ?

[neon shale]

so fced

[pulsar frost]

#updates-midnight

[slate island]

close discord until sound is fixed?

[elder path]

i support this

maybe im autistic but my spells sounding like theyre missing completely throws me off lol

[frail helm]

sorry can you explain that? if demo is on cd, I still build stacks - its after the 10 that cd starts to reduce no?

[lime ruin]

If demolish is off CD you'll be at 10 stacks am I missing something

exception of start of dungeon

[exotic horizon]

Thanks for all the theory crafting . Dose that mean closuse is always better on all dungeon or is there dungeon that slayer still better after the patch ?

[raw sapphire]

during lust should you send second demolish?

[haughty meadow]

Are we sending a 2nd demo without 10 stacks but in CS?

[pulsar frost]

is guidon bugged?

im clicking it and its using but i dont see my haste go up when im fighting bosses

[smoky kayak]

• Before, you might get 10 stacks by the time CS is off CD, but Demo is still on CD, so you start sending your Cleave spam without Demo's buffs
• Now, you get 10 stacks at roughly the same time, but there's a much greater likelihood that Demo comes off CD by the time CS comes up (because you're getting more CDR) or shortly into it, resulting in using Demo earlier in CS and affecting a better overlap of CS, Dominance of the Colossus, Celeritous Conclusion, and Decimator

[elder path]

more consistency yea

makes sense

[smoky kayak]

Demo damage isn't just Demo, it inflicts several de/buffs that have a pretty big influence on your damage, so the more you can overlap that with CS, the better

and that's the primary reason that it's (slightly) better to save Demo for CS, rather than throw it on CD - less frequency, but stronger overlaps

[frail helm]

So you'd hold demo for up to like what, 15-20 sec?

[elder path]

so prob good to send the second demo if youre about to have a long run to the next pack or some rp or some shit

[smoky kayak]

not even close lol, CS only has like a 25-30s CD

not including potential downtime ofc

[elder path]

anger management moment

[urban fjord]

with consistent 2-3 target uptime in keys i havent had issues getting it back off cd for the next CS window

[frail helm]

haven't done an actual key yet, but on dummies smash is coming up half way thru smash cd

and it feels bad holding it

but if that is better then its better

[rose matrix]

So the overlap of buffs from Demolish are better to have for most of CS instead of sending an extra Demolish and then sending your Demolish in the later part of your CS?

[frigid lava]

I'm trying arms for the first time since war within. Is Colossus a must for M+?

[elder path]

yup

[smoky kayak]

nothing is a must, but it is better

also slightly harder

[frigid lava]

Hmmm...

[sand totem]

Nah. Slayer is more pug friendly imo. Very useable, but colo is better

[frigid lava]

which is more fun. I'm guessing slayer

[smoky kayak]

debatable, and personal

[rose matrix]

Honestly Colossus feels great since Demolish was pretty bad the last time I played it

[pulsar frost]

i enjoy oth but col is really fun

even in pugs

[elder path]

demolish rules bladestorm drools

[mystic summit]

sending phat demolish is fun

[frigid lava]

I juts don't like the idea of casting

[sand totem]

I enjoy colo until we hit a boss and the tank doesn't bring adds for me to cleave with

[pulsar frost]

i just leave bosses to the other 2 dps

[heavy pewter]

This right here lol

[pulsar frost]

if i do sick damage that sick if its tank dps whatever

AOE packs is so fun tho

[smoky kayak]

Demolish and Bladestorm are both channels

[rose matrix]

The first boss in Pit hits like crack with adds

[frail helm]

you can at least avoid shit with bs tho

[frigid lava]

bladestorm goes out instantly though

[pulsar frost]

not as bad as fury slayers BS
lol

[dire hinge]

are we back on making Arms cat-themed again

[raw sapphire]

Its even worse in pugs where if the tank does bring funnel the rest of the dps just start spamming aoe and instantly kill the funnel adds

[frail helm]

i love dying while casting demolish lmao

[hard juniper]

But only if its a big enough circle to see it under the BS

[runic heath]

you can leap mid channel

[smoky kayak]

you will never get your second demolish up without also having 10 stacks, so this hypothetical doesn't exist

[runic heath]

;D

[languid torrent]

nothing goes harder than mid demo cast when someone walks over you with a circle and you die

[rose matrix]

Weirdly enough with how annoying Demolish is to use I lowkey enjoy the skill behind using it well

[sand totem]

A tragedy in 2 parts

[frail helm]

nah just always be moving like a gigachad

[languid torrent]

serves you right

[dire hinge]

hell yeah they don't deserve you king

[languid torrent]

#deserved

[smoky kayak]

must be a dog person

[dire hinge]

i had one last week

[pulsar frost]

are you a cat person?

[red parrot]

you can leap during smash, skill issue

[tacit crystal]

@fresh spire do i not press slam in execute as colo

[rose matrix]

You do

[runic heath]

you dont press execute in execute

[rose matrix]

Now you do

[heavy pewter]

Does Slayer vs Colo still even out overall with how muich more Slayer does ST?

[rose matrix]

Nope Colossus on top

[frail helm]

I forgot leap doesn't have a cooldown

MY BAD

[sand totem]

A man of taste!

[smoky kayak]

https://giphy.com/gifs/meme-joke-bro-missed-the-CtT8N3x1opKRZ3if6Z

[pulsar frost]

:(

[runic heath]

slayer has such bad aoe compared to colossus there is no evening out

[smoky kayak]

you can also charge/interpose during it

[dire hinge]

see now that's cursed

[heavy pewter]

oh wow, I didn't realize it was that much worse. Archon actually has Slayer as the recommended tree now.

[runic heath]

forbidden knowledge

[mystic summit]

just go down swinging like a man

[runic heath]

can i get lizard rescued mid demolish

[rose matrix]

Does the last hit of Demolish still go off in front of you if you leap

[dire hinge]

honestly both are fine to play i wouldn't worry much about whatever Archon says ngl

[gilded kraken]

because the changes went live hours ago

archon data hasn't caught up yet

[frigid lava]

god damn.. it's been so long I don't even know what skills I have with arms lol

[runic heath]

i feel like half my haste is fake with this new patch, i dunno why i feel so sluggish

[heavy pewter]

Oh true, I didn't realize that lol. Alright...off to learn how not to be shit at Colo.

[dire hinge]

play whichever one you prefer it doesn't matter

[rose matrix]

It's really not that much worse to play over Slayer

[languid torrent]

^ felt like i was struggling with rage pretty bad tonight in raid

[mystic summit]

not gonna make a difference if ur only doing weekly keys

[runic heath]

i feel like rage gen is bugged, i even felt starved in prot

i might be trippin tho

[heavy pewter]

but my min-maxing

[languid torrent]

nah thats real

[urban fjord]

slayer AOE feels so bad i want to play colossus in skyfury and AA

[languid torrent]

i did a few keys as prot today and it was bad

[dire hinge]

people are still gonna do 19s/20s with slayer tbh, it's not that significant of a nerf in M+

[mystic summit]

being rage starved gives u time to change song on ur second monitor

[languid torrent]

good point

[heavy pewter]

honestly, ty for this. I think I doomed myself into thinking otherwise. cheers

[dire hinge]

Colossus Execute phase is when i sip tea and crack jokes in party chat while my meters are by the tank

[gilded kraken]

if you wanted to minmax that hard you wouldn't play arms to begin with

xd

[dire hinge]

sure thing! It's more important to get real good with one of the hero trees than it is to worry about Colossus/Slayer. Colossus will do a bit more overalls, but like... it's fine

[fiery quest]

is anyone else's animations broken?

i have no hit noises

and cleave doesnt show slam animation

[hollow quail]

i feel like my demolish cds get so out of wack now with the new change

are we just sending on cd in aoe?

even then I feel like i am holding cs for 5-10s sometimes

[pulsar frost]

hmm wacking on dummies and demo comes up so much quicker now jeez

[fiery quest]

are u having animation problems?
'

[tacit crystal]

https://www.twitch.tv/bondbl/clip/ArborealCoweringWolfGOWSkull-ZSNKIrPQbOZngfo7

[near ice]

why does blizzard not want our class to feel good

[full obsidian]

Isnt it fun doing everything right and still gettin that

[dire hinge]

Fervor of Battle's animation for Slam was removed, but the audio cue (Woosh!) is still in place.

[full obsidian]

Dont you feel rewarded

[fiery quest]

Why would they do this

it was so cool

[full obsidian]

Cu fuk you das why

[dire hinge]

because Heroic Strike got a new animation (old warbreaker jump)

[fiery quest]

wtf

[full obsidian]

Its been the theme

[fiery quest]

it was so cool

it was like a combo

THATS SO DUMB

blizzard

also i dont have any hit noises

[full obsidian]

Just make them wit yer mouth

[dire hinge]

what about if you press Control + S

[full obsidian]

👄

[fiery quest]

like i have sound effects

[elder path]

yea we are coordinating a school walkout

[fiery quest]

but its like empty

like its like missing noise

like cleave when it hits no targets

[elder path]

you get the swing but not the hit

[fiery quest]

there is no impact noise

[dire hinge]

hmm, not sure on that one

[elder path]

theres been a few others that have noted it in here

youre not alone bud

[dire hinge]

it was an easy way to see if Cleave actually hit 3 targets, but yeah it's strange they removed FoB's animation.

[fiery quest]

holy chud

blizzard

fucks us

[dire hinge]

just open up the Support tab and provide feedback, or take it to the forums imho

wouldn't be the first time they reverted visual changes for warrior

[full obsidian]

Hes crashing out

[dire hinge]

tbh i just unplug my monitor when i play so i get it

[terse nimbus]

guys, how much are u simming in patchwork single target?

[full obsidian]

At lest a number

[terse nimbus]

comming from warlock i think i do 0 damg

[dire hinge]

under 100k

[terse nimbus]

crazy

[full obsidian]

Yes

That is not a visual bug

[dire hinge]

Arms also isn't a single target spec, so that's very much to be expected

[mystic summit]

might as well go back

[tacit crystal]

#arms message

[full obsidian]

You poor poor boy

[terse nimbus]

i should be playing fury on raid?

didnt look at fury yet

[full obsidian]

Gear the warrior and go dk

[terse nimbus]

since i only have one good weapon

[full obsidian]

Or just play m+

[dire hinge]

depends on the fight and the difficulty you're doing, but Arms can do fine on most bosses even in my;thic

[terse nimbus]

im swapping for warrior on mythic since my guild has 6 warlocks and no warriors

[full obsidian]

Breh

[dire hinge]

i gocha, yeah it'll be healthy to learn both

[full obsidian]

My guild has no warlocks yall do loans?

[gilded kraken]

neither spec is hard so just learn both

arms is a bit more work but it's still relatively easy

[dire hinge]

Vanguard, for example, is basically an Arms fight, but Fury is more commonly the choice for higher Mythic Bosses

Though tbh, Mythic Bird you pretty much just take prot warrior

[full obsidian]

If you take a Warriors in raid you’re actively griefing

[terse nimbus]

its fine if i play fury with one crafted and one hero weapon? i already used all my crafts

[frail helm]

I don't mean in the usual case, but sometimes it unfortunately comes up right after your smash window expires which can lead to a pretty big hold, would you send in that case or just hold it?

[full obsidian]

Yes

[dire hinge]

Yeah, Fury will use a crafted off-hand basically all season

[full obsidian]

In 4 weeks you can possibly upgrade it too

[terse nimbus]

should be fine them, will take a look on fury

thanks guys

[full obsidian]

Gl wit it fam

[mystic summit]

will crafted and myth both get upgraded into 298?

[full obsidian]

Just remeber to ignore pain irl

[terse nimbus]

m+ its all in on arms right?

[mystic summit]

or will crafted be 295

[dire hinge]

Of course, and as you're learning Arms feel free to post any questions here, the chat is usually quite helpful

[full obsidian]

You can do both

[smoky kayak]

when you start getting into specificities like that, you need to start thinking in a broader context

• what's coming up next?
• Are these mobs going to live long enough to warrant the Demolish?
• Will the next time you use CS hit a smaller pack?

[full obsidian]

Or

Just smash

[frail helm]

so you'd even consider holding a second demolish at the tail end of smash if you thought it wouldn't line up at the start of the next one as well

[buoyant cargo]

Eu Server up

Atleast german

[zenith warren]

2h vs prism

[full obsidian]

Gl on vaults leople

[full obsidian]

Sim it

[mystic summit]

sim it

[full obsidian]

More than likely wep though

U less you never raid

[dire hinge]

i mean if it's a dungeon weapon just go for two-ton hammer with your rerolls soon

[full obsidian]

Trueee

[mystic summit]

tried that and got helm and belt rip

[dire hinge]

soon

[full obsidian]

Rip in peperoni

Cant wait to get gaze

[mystic summit]

already had myth helm as well

[smoky kayak]

that weapon kinda sucks, sadly - with bonus rolls you might consider skipping it in order to roll Pit instead

[smoky kayak]

what he said

[full obsidian]

Prism if you dont has trinkets is always good

Dono what you has though

[zenith warren]

really want chimearus rolls, prot loot pool has only 3 items so should almost guarantee gaze

if I get chest this week

[fiery quest]

this gam is so chud

[full obsidian]

Dude just go in and need gaze when it drops

[fiery quest]

literally

no impact noise

[full obsidian]

Rolls? For what

[mystic summit]

wait if u have an item from the loot pull already does it not go into bonus roll?

[full obsidian]

So is selling heart for 300 k worth it btw

[pallid monolith]

@zenith warren is it smart to change loot spec to Prot for mythic chimaerus to try for the gaze? Idk if the loot pool is smaller

[buoyant cargo]

Thank god a myth track weap with crit so i can voidforged shit that and not the craftet weap

[dire hinge]

it is smaller yes

[full obsidian]

Wow

Why didnt i ever think of that

[gilded kraken]

because if this game was built properly you wouldn't have to

but is what it is

[dire hinge]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/arms/bis-gear#bonus-rolls

[runic heath]

i think maxed hero/myth/crafted are applicable to be juiced to 298

[gilded kraken]

innit xd

[full obsidian]

Yall read?

[dire hinge]

better, we write 😂

[full obsidian]

Shiiiii

[dim basalt]

I might keep my rolls for Beloren mythic ngl

[frosty basin]

How does it work if I already have mythic chest, will it still drop from bonus roll on Chim?

[full obsidian]

I dont even read

Maybe i should since people write

[runic heath]

why is it telling me to bonus roll on the funny shadow damage hands

[full obsidian]

[dire hinge]

It isn't, it's saying, "hey if you run out of other things, gloves can be good still"

[full obsidian]

The man writes

Him when people dont read

[dire hinge]

they're decent gloves and the passive helps with dps slightly

[runic heath]

HMM

[leaden garnet]

With the recent changes, is there a chance Colo might outperform Slayer on first fight of VS?

[exotic horizon]

Can some one explain the mind for blizzard please last expansion I wanted to push with warrior but had to change to dk because it was meta and no one will take warrior over dk . This expansion i said blizzard won't keep same class meta consistently ofc they will try to shuffle and it my chance to switch back to warrior . Nop dk still meta . But what I dont understand is why buff a meta class more than the none

[dire hinge]

honestly i hope im wrong here, but the blue post reads like the drop prevention only applies to the rerolls.

[runic heath]

ask your raid nicely to afk the first 8s of add spawns

[frosty basin]

Yeah I hoped so too because it would be a shame to get double loot if you already have it.

[dire hinge]

it already can, it just depends on how much pad you can get out of the adds and if the boss dies close to an intermission add pack spawn or not

[runic heath]

i have way more luck pugging as a warrior than my buddy at the same io doing unholy

also first 21 was feral/arms/outlaw , not the stinky unholy/demo/aug comp

[fiery quest]

when will they fix impact

and animation

[gilded kraken]

wow 2

[dire hinge]

submit it to the forums so they can see you dont like the animation change 😂

[gilded kraken]

they share animations across classes bro they don't give a fuck unfort

[runic heath]

ill never forget ret taking condemn from us

[exotic horizon]

Ofc you can push warrior and clear high level key but dk will always get priority over you but what I am asking is how did dk and devour get this huge buff ? They are already meta

[radiant sonnet]

hello there didnt been here for a week,so what going is that bad for arms right now ?

[elder path]

arms is fine lol

[gilded kraken]

yeah there's some shameless shit in this game when it comes to animation quality/variety

[smoky kayak]

they actually are BiS ST, but the dungeon itself isn't great for rolling because it has one really good item and a lot of mediocre stuff - e.g. low likelihood of actually getting what you want

[gilded kraken]

in that regard wow is still stuck in 2007 xd

[dire hinge]

People dislike how little single target damage we do, but the tradeoff is a huge amout of AoE

[runic heath]

dk is a flex in both comps, both phys and meta. you just need to apply to groups that arent running weird caster heavy classes

[radiant sonnet]

ty !

[dire hinge]

of course!

[runic heath]

AA and SR are giga rough for arms, i feel like im trolling in there

[radiant sonnet]

hahahahahaahahahaaa

[fiery quest]

guys was the fevor of battle animation removal

on purpose

or is it part of the bug

[runic heath]

also, personally not having a training dummy to stack bladestorm for slayer pre-key makes it feel bad as well

[fiery quest]

with impact

im trying to find

where they said

they removed it on purpose

so i can complain on forum

[gilded kraken]

you aren't even meant to stack anything

you only can because they prob forgot about it

they completely nuked it for enha but tbf the enha pre key routine was disgusting

[safe island]

arms good now?

[runic heath]

arms been good

hop on the party bus

[safe island]

patch is tomorrow here

[pulsar hollow]

Void Claw gloves myth ... easiest vault Ive had the past few weeks

[lime ruin]

I hope it doesn’t become the sweeping strikes problem where the animation was bugged and just stopped working, but they decided to keep it that way as a “feature”

[wintry scroll]

Is wowhead guide updated for arms colossus

[stark cape]

So does Slayer use Whirlwind in M+ and Colossus uses Cleave? or not whirlwind at all with the Slayer M+ build

[frail helm]

slayer M+ uses cleave

[stark cape]

i literally cannot find the ability as slayer

wait

[wintry scroll]

Talents

[frail helm]

wat

[stark cape]

I took the talent build from the top Arms warrior for Skyreach

[civic sphinx]

can somone drop a log for a 15ish cavern(colossus)

[stark cape]

this guy isnt playing Cleave in a 19 Skyreach as Slayer? why would that be :"S

Fury Warrior brain can't comprehend arms magic

[vernal pebble]

link logs

[stark cape]

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/arms/slayer/EAOARUFVFVVGZEqRQBENVVUVCYBVCZUF0CFAFVVVVUBA

https://raider.io/characters/eu/ragnaros/Bullrag?season=season-mn-1

I just went to one of the top arms warriors and looked at some of the different dungeon talents they were using

[vernal pebble]

he is prob recleaning raid with this tree

[cursive sun]

is this a shoulder angle or tokens?

[vernal pebble]

always use warcraflogs to get builds etc

[cursive sun]

or is it just wroth to get the wep since it might take a while to upgrade my wep?

im not sure

[jolly nymph]

can you only bonus roll once a week?

[cursive sun]

twice in m+

once in raid

[stark cape]

depends on what you need from waht dungeons. if you need trinket from AA and also would benefit from most of the other items id probably take tokens and start working on getting w/e you need (AA just an example )

[gilded kraken]

twice per dungeon, once per raid boss

[cursive sun]

i think

[jolly nymph]

weird

just did heroic dreamrift and couldnt bonus roll

didnt pop up

[stark cape]

I had chest / boots myth in vault but took tokens.

[cursive sun]

u need to do the quest

[vernal pebble]

@rotund obsidian https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/rkJ78LXWq6cPbZAg?fight=5&type=summary&source=195 here the right build he uses

[sweet umbra]

did you roll on a dungeon already

[stark cape]

I bonus rolled Mythic Chimaerus and got the trinket today though.

[cursive sun]

and get the tokens

first

[jolly nymph]

yeah done the quest and have the tokens, already rolle din a dungeon

[sweet umbra]

yeah it uses 2 tokens on raid loot

or 1 on dungeon

[jolly nymph]

aaaaah

ty ty

[sweet umbra]

because it's half the item pool size in raid

also PSA change to prot lootspec for chimaerus to increase your chances of getting gaze.

[zenith warren]

guys am I crazy or strafing is bugged? I play for a while and it stops working, works shortly after relogging though

[jolly nymph]

ty lads

[sweet umbra]

it removes that ass dps trinket

[minor gust]

Yeah slayer is still big chilling

[stark cape]

ty. guess im just confused because i thought they were going to make it so cleave/whirlwind applied rend naturally without having to talent thunder clap or use SS + rend on each pack.

maybe i misunderstood

[gilded kraken]

thats a fury change

[sand totem]

thats for the talent "improved whirlwind" on the fury end

[stark cape]

ahh ok

ty

If you bonus roll chimaerus this week make sure you are PROT loot spec

33% chance you get it

[smoky kayak]

Rend is an AoE, it does not need and has no interaction with Sweep

[stark cape]

omg.

this is why i play fury

tysm archi

[smoky kayak]

also not sure what you're looking at here btw, but he's def using Cleave in every build (only one of them 2 weeks ago was slayer besides)

[stark cape]

https://tenor.com/view/джона-хилл-jonah-hill-facepalm-рука-лицо-долоня-обличчя-gif-7167197686338732060

[smoky kayak]

also you really shouldn't be looking at what "top keys" are doing anyway - they bear very little relation to the majority of "regular" player concerns

[vernal pebble]

its like comparing why u cant top dmg colossus without doing mobs+ bosses on keys

[smoky kayak]

well that's a 20, not a 19

[frosty basin]

How do I get the bonus weekly roll from vault if I dont want loot

[stark cape]

thats where i found that build. i copied his highest timed for skyreach just to see what people are using

[raw sapphire]

how the hell are you doing that much damage on slayer lol. I can not get that spec to do any damage even on big pulls.

[smoky kayak]

but that build also had Cleave

[vernal pebble]

raider.io dont show the exact build he uses on the key, always show the one he has right now

[minor gust]

Press cleave and bladestorm

also holy they need to buff reap chance

[stark cape]

Maybe the link that it provides me when i click the "open talents on wowhead button" near the 3 dots i pointed oout on SNIPPING TOOL. is bugged

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/arms/slayer/EAOARUFVFVVGZEqRQBENVVUVCYBVCZUF0CFAFVVVVUBA

[minor gust]

20% on cleave only is triggering

[smoky kayak]

playing with Rogue/Mage also probably helps

[stark cape]

because thats the link it opens for me

[minor gust]

[stark cape]

all g though ty for the help

[minor gust]

[raw sapphire]

what does rogue and mage do to help?

[chilly wind]

So as of today: slayer still slays in keys?
Or is collosus all the way?

[smoky kayak]

that's a raider.io problem, it's redirecting you to w/e build they logged out in

[stark cape]

ahh ok that makes sense :S

[smoky kayak]

you see the little "Load / Export Builds" button on the bottom left? use that

[minor gust]

im likely also just bad at colo but Assa pumps and was having no problem keeping up with me in pit

[raw sapphire]

my buddy is also assa and he also just pumps

[minor gust]

12.05 assa buffs

[gilded kraken]

yall think this is a wep or ring angle, i have crafted wep and absolutely dogshit rings, been on mage

[latent moss]

no skyfury as well

[raw sapphire]

thought assa got 0/0 buffs in single and aoe no based on that graph

[smoky kayak]

oh yeah, not bad at all, but it's not Dev/UH either

[minor gust]

nah UH overhyped

easily shit on 2 UHs of decent skill today

[smoky kayak]

not with the huge buff they just got

[minor gust]

they got some good burst tho

[latent moss]

nothing will make me play uhdk

pressing dnd

hell nah

[cursive sun]

isnt it plain stupid to get a random myth track upgrade from vault instead of the bonus roll token, seeing as i can get a 3rd bonus roll on potentially a better trinket?

[latent moss]

having to press dnd

[minor gust]

DDH tho that thing is disgusting

[smoky kayak]

normally weapon, but you'd need to have enough crests to recraft a new embellishment

[latent moss]

on top of the most

boring rotation

of all time

[stark cape]

Arms feels so good to play. Im curious how well it does in the heroic belo st burn groups compared to Fury 55k dps on egg lol

[cursive sun]

like i got a wep and 2 shoulders so its nothing crazy, i can just take the 3rd bonus loot token and just go roll for trinkets and take whatever drops now no?

[latent moss]

uhdk is the least engaging spec ive ever played

[gilded kraken]

ty mr archi

[robust ridge]

Are you bonus rolling Pit though?

[gilded kraken]

i assumed wep too

[latent moss]

ur dmg numbers on ur screen look the same in army and outside

but u are doing 20x less dmg

[minor gust]

but da theme im a silly wittle necro mancer guy

[latent moss]

its so fucking shit

[raw sapphire]

idk fury warrior gets boring really quickly

[stark cape]

its midnight iteration feels very odd. none of the spells feel a OOMF to em to smack idk

[flat willow]

you guys weren't there during wod?

[latent moss]

nothing does anything

[flat willow]

arms before HFC in wod, now that was the worst thing to ever exist in this game

[stark cape]

What do yall have Rend Keybound to out of curiousity 😛

[latent moss]

shift 3

since forever

[smoky kayak]

recycle bin

[stark cape]

lol thats where mine is

[quaint topaz]

4

[stark cape]

😛

[hasty pumice]

do we still always wait for colossus smash for demolish or sometimes just send it?

[stark cape]

but your hard casting rend right, theres no other way to get it going naturally

[gilded kraken]

yes

[neon shale]

the pugs are on fire today

3 sraight briccks in under 1 min

[flat willow]

wait I just checked the unholy m+ build in this patch, they lost soul reaper, no longer take abom and now play with dnd. I don't know about the numbers but its joever for my unholy at least

shit I need a new alt

oh nevermind, they still have soul reaper just moved it

[quaint topaz]

Another warri alt

[flat willow]

not as bad

still won't press dnd tho

[latent moss]

the spec has 2 redeeming qualities

immuning shit with ams cause its funny

and horse

at least sanlayn is dead

so thats good

[flat willow]

tbh the biggest redeeming quality is not losing any single target in their aoe build

it just feels nice owning on single target

[sand tree]

ugh all sims point out for the vanguard trinket? guys should i take it or the puzzle box? i have champ trinkets both are like few % upgrade

[lunar idol]

Guys i need advices because i don't understand well the voidcore thing between upgrading or lootint in m+/raid.

What would you do in my case ? Bis hero trinket i will upgrade to myth i guess or bis myth neck ?

https://raider.io/characters/eu/archimonde/Mocac

[sand tree]

gz

[sand tree]

which trinket do you have now

[lunar idol]

Bis from m+, no raid trink 😭

[radiant sonnet]

wait is bonus rolls up ?

[sterile owl]

The hero trinket will be upgraded to where myth items are at rn, 289 i think, but it cant go up to 298 like actual myth pieces.

[radiant sonnet]

and how to get them

[full obsidian]

Wait

[latent moss]

i mean we dont lose much at all

its just that we do 0 st in general

despite having 9 aoe talents

[slow saddle]

i just love rolling duplicates

[keen forge]

i could take heroic alnseer out of my vault, should i? Archon shows it as 3rd option (i have vorasius and solarflare) and my sims also say solarflare with voidforge would be more

is that bait?

[slow saddle]

i mean what?

are they mythic?

[keen forge]

nah, i dont raid

only hc

solarflare is myth ofc

[slow saddle]

so u have HC solar and hc heart?

how is that ofc ?:D

[keen forge]

[slow saddle]

<--- also i give u SHIT vault of the week

[keen forge]

true

ouch

[slow saddle]

2nd week in a row with that ring

^_^

[sterile owl]

Just take

bonus roll

Its not that bad

[slow saddle]

i will

but it is

[keen forge]

tbf, i had to take a socket last week as a 240 warrior with a fuill vault lol

[slow saddle]

m8

2 weeks in a row

with socket

man i know bonus roll and all

but damn i feel violated

[stable fiber]

id take socket > bonus roll rn

[slow saddle]

i mean im not buying shit

ill hold off until its fixxed

i wanna stack up at least 7-8 bonus rols b4 i send em in a dungeon

[balmy basalt]

do we send ravager on st especially if we have stuff like guidon or do we hold it for packs mostly

[slow saddle]

i send it early

but not late in a boss fight 😄

early coz its macroed to my rav - late coz i want it in packs

[smoky kayak]

technically you can use Ravager on ST if the boss will last more than 1.5m, but otherwise you're much better off using it on the next pack

Ravager + Cleave on ST is extremely minor, if there's anyway to use it on multiple targets instead, either putting it on CD before the boss (even if you're not sending full cooldowns with it) or saving it for the next pack after, you will get much more dam overall

[blissful tree]

open as prot gives you luck

[keen forge]

ok i simmed it, even on 276 solarflare + hc vorasius would be better than taking alnseer hc :/

[slow saddle]

i mean can i c ya gear

and setup

[stable fiber]

alnseer isnt that insane of a trinket

[slow saddle]

let me say it outloud

fuck u

I mean it kindda is

[keen forge]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kLk3EFEfYgZvhiNhRzHopw

character is a week old, dont expect too much lol

[stable fiber]

prism pretty good as colo spec

[fickle bone]

as arms is it worth to take myth weapon from vault or just stick with crafter one ?

[stable fiber]

depends on the stats of the weapon

[fickle bone]

crit haste

[stable fiber]

what else is in the vault

that is a good weapon

[slow saddle]

i take weapon

100000=%

[balmy basalt]

where do we macro in guidon? with ravager p much?

[stable fiber]

thats a decent vault

[slow saddle]

yeah i did

[stable fiber]

dont take yet imo

[pulsar frost]

just a random mythic crown neck

[stable fiber]

id use RR tokens in POS first before taking vault

[stable fiber]

thats hero

[fickle bone]

hero not myth sadly

[pulsar frost]

oh i got baited

by ilevel

carry on

[slow saddle]

i would craft neck mby?

[stable fiber]

pit of saron is a very good rr dungeon

[fickle bone]

got burned out from pugs so didnt raid this week :p

[pulsar frost]

but just pit bonus roll

ezpz

[stable fiber]

so i would slam 2 10's and bonus roll pit

if you get weapon take those gloves, if you dont get wep take the wep

[pulsar frost]

i rolled on dreamrift and got gaze

so next week ill roll pit

[slow saddle]

nah

[fickle bone]

so just use BR on pit if i dont get sum good take weapon then ?

[slow saddle]

id 100% spend my bonus rolls in NP

[quaint topaz]

Am I correct? If I roll on PoS I can get myth lvl ring or neck?

[keen forge]

meh

[stable fiber]

if you are a M+ main the NP rings are bait

[pulsar frost]

cant relate, vault gave me void last week telling me to go arms

[stable fiber]

btw

[slow saddle]

why?

the st is still valuable

[pulsar frost]

but void is nice

[slow saddle]

and u cant get the butter rings

bitter*

id say its opposite ?

[stable fiber]

me breaking my 2 set with a pos ring

[pulsar frost]

wedding and void good no?

[stable fiber]

is a +1k dps increase

OVER my myth ring

(which is a np ring)

[slow saddle]

mine not are u certain

its setup correctly

[fickle bone]

running wedding and void too

[minor gust]

Colo likes that crit

[fickle bone]

much better than both NP ring together

[stable fiber]

if you M+ you 100% want the wedding ring rn

[pulsar frost]

ideal combo is wedding and void if youre not raiding that high

[stable fiber]

pit drops so much good shit is crazy

especially if you dont have a lot of myth slots rn

like every piece from that dungeon is bis or near bis

the only bad piece is the cloak

(you can convert the belt and other pieces of gear)

[keen forge]

should i just go based on sims and just not take hc alnseer? im really not sure lol