how
#arms
jade ember
hit random buttons got it
slow flame
lolol
ur still gonna do tank dmg
so not a big deal
unless ur tank big brain and funnels :3
slow flame
haha
reef glade
why does slarms run out of rage in execute phase...
magic canopy
use overpower silly goose
minor gust
why no battlelord...
Because BLord was the worst out of any other option for 4/4 apex
cosmic halo
Do we have % change in dps after 12.0.5 ?
Slayer feels shit in st in MM
minor gust
If you think slayer ST is shit in keys that might be a skill issue.
reef glade
use overpower silly goose
just flat didnt md the bubble on pull the entire 8 seconds
very cool
3 priests in the run
reef glade
yeah die
magic canopy
smorbsmish 2
reef glade
i got like rank 8 or sometihng
magic canopy
hehe
reef glade
and just did nothing for 10 seconds
i mean
actually braindead
one of the priests said "late lust" which sure maybe
magic canopy
shoulda speced shattering throw
reef glade
but the other 2 just drooling on their keyboards ig
cosmic halo
If you think slayer ST is shit in keys that might be a skill issue.
In single target ?
You feel it's good ?
minor gust
Mine is. I don't know about you
weak wave
In single target ?
ST is good, AoE is okay
minor gust
Slayer AOE is good enough to still beat every other spec in overall, so I would say it's more than okay
rain fiber
I might be missing something, but when Heroic Strike pops, when I use Cleave it changes back so slam without me pressing it. Is cleave "spending" HS?
mystic summit
if u cleave 3 or more targets u do a slam. if u have heroic strike up it uses it
rain fiber
Ahhh gotcha, thanks
mystic summit
Fervor of battle in the talent tree
runic rock
Are ppl going arms or fury for midnight falls?
Feels like its probably an arms fight right?
minor gust
Theres not a single dps warrior kill for midnight falls yet so uhhh pick your poison they are both kinda bad
minor gust
well its heroic. Play what you are most comfortable on and can play well
You can look at logs for the fight and see its pretty even between arms and fury
runic rock
👍
quiet bramble
how do I attend others house/home?
mystic summit
i think u can right click their name if ur in party with them and click visit
quiet bramble
ye i found it
hushed pine
how do I attend others house/home?
quiet bramble
https://tenor.com/view/james-doakes-james-doakes-sus-face-james-doakes-suspiciou...
yo free void rune
forgot to reapply sweeping strikes is trolling 
keen siren
Slayer aoe is rly good imo, it’s just a lot more consistent dmg rather than spiky huge aoe dmg
But if u get a bunch of sd procs reap does a lot of dmg in aoe
It’s usually ur top dam
And it’s more satisfying I just think reap looks rly cool too
And bs
hushed pine
Getting back to back SD procs with 3 stacks is like popping a can
so satisfying
Back to back Bladestorms
keen siren
Ik it’s crazy lol u can get 2 bs in one pull if ur lucky enough
The haste buff after bs is also very nice
rain fiber
My god my ST sucks as as Collosus, am I shitting the bed that bad? I know it's supposed to be on the lower side, but I'm doing like 40-50k at 270 ilvl, while I do at least 50-60k on Fury
It's still fun to pop on big pulls though
rain fiber
also, how come both Collosus and Slayer are competitive on top runs?
minor gust
because both specs are good
umbral badger
also, how come both Collosus and Slayer are competitive on top runs?
if anything slayer is more practical anyway
rain fiber
I mean, Collosus can actually feel useless on keys that have harder bosses imo
minor gust
Premade higher keys are gonna pull trash onto bosses which colo massively benefits from
the funnel doubles colos boss dmg
minor gust
yee
but yeah both are good right now and its really just preference and or what your group needs
rain fiber
still I don't know how consistent it is outside of CDs when it comes to AoE, because you know as Collosus that you will have at least 1 combo per pull
with Slayer you are at the mercy of proccing I guess
umbral badger
it's more of a "can't go wrong" with slayer, while colossus is a bit picky about setup and maybe dungeons
minor gust
you should have no problem keeping up with every dps as slayer in ST
rain fiber
also, what can I use to remind myself about rend, I feel its a bit too hard for me to track it
quiet bramble
pug without shaman, im doomed
rain fiber
also it doesn't glow up nicely like every other button
minor gust
take a mental note to press rend everytime cleave and MS are on CD and you have no SD stacks
well not everytime but like take that moment to check to see if rend is up or not
rain fiber
slayer seems less reliant o rend, am I right?
minor gust
yes rend isnt as good and prio for slayer for ST at least, but in aoe you still want to get rend up at all times
rain fiber
gotcha, thanks for all the tips
wet scroll
In Aoe situation if I have Mortal strike up, but 0.5secs left on cleave with heroic strike proc, do I wait and cast cleave or cast mortal strike first?
vast helm
if change APEX talent 3% penetrate to 3% str good?
cosmic halo
Wdyt of slayer after 12.0.5 ?
latent moss
if change APEX talent 3% penetrate to 3% str good?
arpen is basically damage dealt
and strength is nowhere near it
latent moss
arpen is basically damage dealt
its a more "warrior" way to write damage dealt increases by 3%
smoky kayak
its a more "warrior" way to write damage dealt increases by 3%
yeah except it's more like 1.3% 
quiet bramble
well shit, aint gonna play colossarms in pug again
nvm it's seat, back to colossus
nova marsh
if change APEX talent 3% penetrate to 3% str good?
Imma be honest
Aside from us needing god on st, id rather they focus on design
Fix our rage delete ravager bring cleave down a peg or two and bring up other parts of our aoe....which is just dreadnaught i guess
Bs and demo kinda feed into st too
runic rock
I feel like arms actually got more complicated since I played it a couple seasons ago
nova marsh
Yeah I kinda agree
balmy basalt
do we try to align cs and avatar as slayer aoe
frail helm
how is colossus considered better in keys when slayer still does great cleave but not <tank dmg single target?
jovial hare
how is colossus considered better in keys when slayer still does great cleave bu...
bc it absolutely destroys packs
its a tradeoff
trash gets nuked
in exchange
u do tank st
warm fog
how is colossus considered better in keys when slayer still does great cleave bu...
Cause colossus doesn’t do great cleave, it does insane cleave
odd ledge
And on boss fights you get mocked
warm fog
Depends on your comp and the dungeon
nova marsh
but at high keys having someone do negative boss damage is like
I mean honestly slayer st isnt that much better
If you account for rng
odd ledge
It is
frail helm
its comfortably like 15k better
jovial hare
arms owns
warm fog
I’m not a high key pusher but there’s always dungeons where having the aoe to do certain pulls is worth the slower boss kills
nova marsh
I’m not a high key pusher but there’s always dungeons where having the aoe to do...
Its honestly a lot of them
frail helm
I just feel like I'm inting if I go colossus into a 16
frail helm
yea sick one
warm fog
I just feel like I'm inting if I go colossus into a 16
If your group can’t or won’t take advantage of the aoe then yeah slayer
reef prairie
you can play colo to the highest keys, i don't think there's any definitive better spec rn
you're certainly not trolling by playing it
warm fog
It’s not like your a 3 minute ele Shaman where you gotta pull around your CDs
nova marsh
I mean
You do gotta hope tank isn't a troll
But id assume in a 16 they might catch onto demo
warm fog
You do gotta hope tank isn't a troll
Quick, better pull the pack out of that spinning red axe, looks dangerous
nova marsh
God damn it man dont remind me
At least we arent fdk
I stg some tanks do actually mistake fwf for a mechanic
frail helm
I keep thinking the prot pally apex talent is the boss mechanic from nexus
nova marsh
The memory game?
frail helm
no the dmg amp
frail helm
nexus point xenas
frail helm
the right hand wing boss
serene blaze
hello, how does mortal strike work in this scenario?
nova marsh
hello, how does mortal strike work in this scenario?
In what context?
Are you asking if reap with sweep has multiple proc chances?
serene blaze
it says 3 or more target , doesnt mortal hit 2 only?
serene blaze
oh ok ty
pulsar elk
seeing more and more colosi on top 50 m+ players on murloc, did i miss some changes? thought slayer was the meta for now
its like split perfectly between slayer and colosi rn haha
minor gust
Both slayer and Colo are very good and you can play either one. This has been true all season
fallen anchor
We need to make a petition to revert all the warrior changes for 12.0.5 except whirlwind applying rend
All the other changes are so bad
minor gust
🪤
rare kite
All the other changes are so bad
wat
fallen anchor
Sudden demise no longer give a guarantee reap the storm proc
rare kite
that's been reverted
fallen anchor
Cleave does apply deep wound if it crits anymore
I think now it’s slam and mortal
Good for ST
rare kite
yes that is a good thing
minor gust
Hence why other stuff was buffed to compensate
rare kite
But reducing dmg overall
except demolish buff makes up for it
fallen anchor
But they reverted sudden death change ?
rare kite
yes
minor gust
Both specs are good
rare kite
Neither slayer or colo is losing dmg with these changes
slayer not losing a little st with reap no longer on ms? does the slam applying bleed make up for it?
minor gust
slayer not losing a little st with reap no longer on ms? does the slam applying ...
Before the SD revert slayer was only losing 1% ST due to slam apply bleed and BS buff. Now with the revert it should be gaining dmg now. Idk the number but fishy said net positive
rare kite
very nice
sharp tide
Is there a good place to read all the current changes planned ?
rare kite
Just gotta pray the revert is official
ikr, tbf i don't mind whether it gets fully reverted or if it's the sweeping strike version. as long as it procs on aoe
minor gust
But tbh Ive long made my peace and am fine with 2T SD reap that was a good compromise to what I wanted
minor gust
ikr, tbf i don't mind whether it gets fully reverted or if it's the sweeping str...
Yeah 100%
pulsar elk
the gap between aoe and st with slayer is much smaller ive found
gonna sim to confirm
but the peaks you get with colo aoe is nutty
minor gust
Is there a good place to read all the current changes planned ?
It's not gonna be organized but in updates channel will have a timeline of all the ptr changes just scroll up
fallen anchor
But reap the storm nerf is still going right ? 20% to 15%
rare kite
no
minor gust
But reap the storm nerf is still going right ? 20% to 15%
Bro go through the updates channel you are just massively behind
pulsar elk
yeah like in my m+ spec, my ST for slayer is 16k dps over my colo m+ ST
but i suppose since youre doing more aoe it averages out overall?
minor gust
Pick your poison
Do you want big aoe play colo. Do you want a balanced dmg profile pick Slayer
pulsar elk
also seems like its heavily dependant on whether youre pugging, and what key youre doing , cuz if you can actually expect a massive pull and have ur cds lined up, its just such a massive difference
yeahh makes sense
untold pewter
Both work just play whichever you prefer honestly
Unless you're going for title keys or so it won't matter
minor gust
Both are in a good spot it really really is just play what you like more
pulsar elk
slayer feels better when ur cds arent up i will say
minor gust
Any kind of oh this is good here this is good there is pretty moot and pointless
Both specs will net you very high success
pulsar elk
well like ill change my spec based on what number key im doing
fierce bobcat
Ok guys jus watched 12.05 changes for slayer and arms. JUST WHY BLIZZ
fierce bobcat
spam ww and apply dw from slam just wtf
untold pewter
Dw from slam is hilarious
Rest is honestly fine
pulsar elk
whered u see htat nab?
minor gust
Are you another person reading outdated 12.05 info
pulsar elk
whats dw o.o
minor gust
Because you won't press WW
rare kite
Are you another person reading outdated 12.05 info
he 100% is
untold pewter
Deep wounds (mortal wounds)
pulsar elk
ah ty lots of acronyms
untold pewter
I don't truly understand that change kek
From cleave to slam
It's not super important but I just don't get it
minor gust
I don't truly understand that change kek
From cleave to slam
More control over DW tuning.
slender sonnet
omg arms passed fury on the murlok meta list
we're gonna get nerfed
I can feel it
pulsar elk
lies! slander!
rare kite
less cleave power as well indirectly. and less cleave power is good
untold pewter
More control over DW tuning.
My point being they could've just removed from cleave and leave it at that
The slam addition is silly
pulsar elk
hahaha real shit tho
so there are purposed changes that cant be read as anything other than a nerf?
where are u guys even finding that info?
minor gust
My point being they could've just removed from cleave and leave it at that
The s...
People constantly complain about slam being shitty. Why should they not continue to add to slam so it feels better to press
untold pewter
I mean, Imo HS does that
rare kite
anything applied to slam counts for HS as well. so it buffs HS
minor gust
I mean, Imo HS does that
Imo I agree but some reason ppl still omega hate slam
rare kite
this is a buff to execute phase as well. just a small one tho
pulsar elk
i think hs is a lil underwhelming
untold pewter
Right, eh, I think it's a silly "compensation" angle but so be it
I'm ok with taking it away from cleave
pulsar elk
HS should do like a tiny cone of damage similar to what pallies got
fallen anchor
I feel like colo won’t get effected as much as slayer cuz demo applies deep wounds
pulsar elk
tho arms dont need any help with aoe i guess lol
minor gust
Right, eh, I think it's a silly "compensation" angle but so be it
I'm ok with t...
Just think of it this way it's one less mandatory aoe talent now we just gotta get rid of a few more
untold pewter
Just a few more
I've lost Odyns' grace Frozen
Why are my numbers so shit in this raid
Am I not padding enough?
minor gust
Indeed pad is the way
untold pewter
Damn it
minor gust
Play Colo on mythic dragons and have your dks gorefiends the orbs into your demolish
This is the way
untold pewter
I'm doing that today lmao
minor gust
It's a fun time till the dev DH steals your pad with collapsing star
minor gust
Gg
fallen anchor
Bro am so bad at doing dmg in the raid I can’t get higher than a blue log but I can push 18-19
minor gust
Should get your demolish off but getting the cleaves after might be hard
untold pewter
Bro am so bad at doing dmg in the raid I can’t get higher than a blue log but I ...
I used to be a 95+ parser now I can't fucking go above blue either man
It's affecting my self esteem
I just hate pad
fallen anchor
Do I need to degen and play demo first boss mythic and just pad away ?
untold pewter
I swear if you look at lorrrgs yes
Not necessarily colossus but
It's really just saving buttons for add spawns
untold pewter
There I prefer to just sit on boss if I'm not fixated but ugh
I guess I should leap burst adds and come back
The cds do align
For every add spawn
rare kite
I have been fucked over on both our voarsius kills it's my only bad parse
are there actual decent amount of parses on that boss now? when i last killed it i got rank 12 but a fkn purple parse
smh my head
untold pewter
It's so freaking pointless tho
minor gust
are there actual decent amount of parses on that boss now? when i last killed it...
On voarsius yeah there should be a lot by now
rare kite
okok nice, surely i get orange parse tomorrow
minor gust
It's so freaking pointless tho
I just sit boss too but I've keep getting bad rng on the kill pulls
rare kite
i sat boss then when cs duration ran out i leapt to adds with SS did some 2-3 target then charge back
minor gust
Both weeks we have wiped at 1% and both those wipes I was gonna get a 97 98
untold pewter
Btw what's the argument between reck potion and light's potential?
Is there a straightforward :this is better for this scenario: deal here?
rare kite
classic
minor gust
minor gust
Btw what's the argument between reck potion and light's potential?
Is there a s...
Think they pretty much sim the exact same
untold pewter
Like does col want reck potion buffing crit was my primary thought
fallen anchor
For chimaerus is it one use on the adds and the other on boss ? Mythic.
rare kite
Btw what's the argument between reck potion and light's potential?
Is there a s...
reck potion is better if you have low vers and highest stat is crit. my problem with reck potion in raid is that it takes vantus stats as well
rare kite
same but i have highest stat haste so reck is bad for me anyway
untold pewter
For chimaerus is it one use on the adds and the other on boss ? Mythic.
Are you going down first or second?
Going down first I save the first burst for adds but you can CS on pull, you get CS back for adds then ava+BS
Then next burst is on boss
And the next is on intermission
minor gust
If you cs on pull you really have to force rage spend it's pretty close on if you get it back in time or not
untold pewter
Then you get it back again towards the end of the intermission
I personally just send it there if adds aren't dead but othetwise you can basically do the same thing again
untold pewter
If you cs on pull you really have to force rage spend it's pretty close on if yo...
I found it somewhat reliable but I wasn't getting my full bladestorm in
Mostly just cuz adds take a few seconds to gather to the spot we kill it
So yeah definitely not doing my full aoe on the adds but getting a bit more on the boss on pull
At least the big add takes it all
minor gust
Yeah Chim is terrible to parse for lmao thankfully I stole an easy 100 parse for Chim because there was only 6 arms warrior logs for mythic Chim when I killed it
untold pewter
Saldahaar is another doomed for parsing
Sometimes tanks outrun the orb and I miss SS hits
And I don't leave the boss to go bladestorm the large clump of small orbs
Cuz we don't need my damage there
But that's just me moaning about shit
Totally fair to:
minor gust
Nah saladbar you are purely just at the mercy of your tanks. I had to whip mine into shape to move with the orbs so I could hit them as much as possible
fallen anchor
I still find it funny how they were planning to make sudden death doesn’t proc a guarantee reap the storm
It feels like there are 2 developers fighting each others
untold pewter
It feels like there are 2 developers fighting each others
More like one AI doing the first pass and then maybe a dev doing a second pass
I genuinely believe this to be the case
Mfs must be feeding their Cursor/Claude with their own WoW MCP and prompting AI to suggest changes
That's every tech team nowadays
minor gust
I still find it funny how they were planning to make sudden death doesn’t proc a...
After a very big forum post created by some awesome guy. Blizzard ended up compromising and made SD proc reap when hitting 2T with SS. This kept the important gameplay function of wanting to press SD in aoe. This last second revert is just a nice surprise, but we could have lived without it
fallen anchor
Tbh the way they mad SD guarantee proc reap is so good cuz now execute is not just BS cooldown reduction button it’s really worth to use for prio dmg and good aoe dmg with reap plus executioner precision stack
So much value just for pressing execute
Rn the best design for a spec and it’s hero talent for warrior easily goes to slayer arms
It doesn’t feels like a meme anymore
pallid sedge
Hey guys quick question. Why is everyone playing Arms rn? I simmed 1/3/7 Targets and everything is worse than Fury ( I even farmed more or less the optimal Stats for accurate evaluation)... Combined with the akward rotation as arms i dont see why arms is so popular and so highly ranked (archon) rn. Idk maybe im just stupid and dont understand anything ...
pallid sedge
Diffence of -15k on 3 targets which is 10%. So even if i have like 20k more prio dmg, it is lost on overall value
And how many pulls do you have in a key with 3 mobs. not many...
fallen anchor
Arms has consistent burst and really good funnel on main target
Comparing slayer arms to thane fury will feel like they are close
But colo arms to thane fury is a really big diff in overall dungeons
fallen anchor
Yeah when ur doing normal keys his colo is really bad
fallen anchor
But people are doing the highest keys with him cuz if u pull adds into boss preferably 3 targets his ST becomes really good
pallid sedge
Yeah im currently playing thane fury and slayer arms. havent tried col arms. But being dependent on mobs on boss seems also bad
fallen anchor
It is bad
pale mantle
Slayer arms feels so much better overall
fallen anchor
Cuz most people if u play with pugs won’t pull adds into boss for u
Slayer sim is kinda bad cuz if u get good sudden death procs u will do way higher than ur sim
latent moss
colo absolutely mogs slayer on aoe
slayer mogs colo on st
either way it doesnt matter unless ure timing 19d
19s and even then i feel like i could go colo and we would still be timing 19s
colo wins on everything thats not st
molten glacier
Solo pug play fury is better. For 10-14 dosent rly matter play what you have the most funn
gentle gyro
Colo arms single is pure garbage ngl
Not fixable imo
rare kite
ofc it's fixable. highly doubt they will tho
sacred zodiac
ofc it's fixable. highly doubt they will tho
2000% slam aura buff
deft bluff
Just remove slam.. make Heroic Strike overwrite Mortal Strike
echo geode
sudden death stacks twice right? is there a reason the wowhead rotation doesn't say to only execute with sudden death if 2x stacks of sudden death? slayer rotation
fresh spire
it's already used as high prio, most times 2 stacks are hit its gone almost immedately
echo geode
hmm alright
sacred zodiac
@fresh spire will the ptr patch going live get me brought to raid again or am i sat for the rest of the tier
fresh spire
Slayer arms will do more dps next patch with SD reap back, is it enough to justify it on last 2, probs not
sacred zodiac
can you fuck with the sims to make it look like it will so they sunk cost fallacy me in
fresh spire
.5 tuning surely save us
sharp wyvern
if .5 tuning will be a thing
sand tree
Guys please answer me, is 12.0.5 looking grim for arms in m+?
sharp wyvern
for m+ its great
sand tree
Its sad that reap is nerfed on st 🙁
sharp wyvern
we dont know that yet
sand tree
I really loves it
sharp wyvern
it might be back
sand tree
I think i dont understand arms so well then
Since it's cleave has been nerfed and slayer reap
keen hedge
Yo guys,
First time i roll Arms since i play Warrior.
Im just Really curious which of the Builds is the funnel damage one ?
Since im reading the Talents and dont find what implies the funnel part.
Tyvm
rare kite
cleave nerf gets made up for in aoe by demolish buff. slayer reap in st gets made up for by slam proccing deep wounds
rare kite
Yo guys,
First time i roll Arms since i play Warrior.
Im just Really curious whi...
fervor of battle gives us funnel. also more rage and more cdr since we spend more
sand tree
Thank you, you made it very clear for me
keen hedge
And since Colossus focuses damage on Cleave etc. its the preferred Build if i wanna funnel ?
rare kite
correct
keen hedge
Ah ty
rare kite
yep, hugee. btw did you mean to reply to my funnel comment above instead of that one? xD
i saw crit do that boss as well yesterday. like 120k st
insane
thick kelp
yep, hugee. btw did you mean to reply to my funnel comment above instead of that...
probably i did
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shy oyster
Quick question/clarification for Slayer: If it comes to a situation where your RNG luck has made Colossus Smash/CS to be up before your Bladestorm or vice versa, do you just send either regardless and hope they'll eventually correct themselves over a fight?
Or do you hold even when one might be 20 seconds later than the other etc.
thick kelp
send cs, hold bs
shy oyster
Ah, so only use BS during CS?
thick kelp
ys
shy oyster
noted, thanks
candid pecan
wind flicker
Unironically a dk is op in that dungeon for arms
If he controls the mob
So the little skellies never die
echo geode
is it correct to overpower over execute if sudden death isnt at 2 stacks? wowhead doesnt recommend it but i dont understand why. slayer
shut token
Is there any build that can give me decent ST and AoE in the same build?
or what would be the cloest at least
thick kelp
Slayer mythic + from wowhead
quiet bramble
Is there any build that can give me decent ST and AoE in the same build?
go slayer, bootleg blademaster
robust bay
thick kelp
patchwerk
wooden plover
Hey guys, since the default swing timer is gone, what are you guys using to track auto attacks for Arms Warrior now?"
thick kelp
Hey guys, since the default swing timer is gone, what are you guys using to trac...
Nothing, you cannot track swing timer on arms at all
wooden plover
I used to track it with WeakAuras, but...
ionic mica
Hey guys, since the default swing timer is gone, what are you guys using to trac...
gotta look at your guy/rage bar now
winter hedge
Hello, sorry for the question, but I can't decide between the Arms Warrior or Fury specialization. I like both, and I want to do Mythic+ ( 15-16)dungeons and Mythic raids. I see that Fury is more popular, but in terms of performance, is Arms Warrior equal? Thank you.
stable fiber
Hello, sorry for the question, but I can't decide between the Arms Warrior or Fu...
I personally believe in both mythic raid and m+ arms is just better
winter hedge
Thanks you for answer 🥰
stable fiber
Arms does more ST in raid and currently other specs kill ads better then fury while doing more ST then fury
While in m+ arms can play both colo and slayer to do boss damage or have high overalls
Or have both
winter hedge
It's a shame the stats aren't the same (regarding crafting, this is restrictive).
stable fiber
I just recrafted to arms and am not playing fury at all this tier anymore
late yarrow
when do you all apply rend in aoe pulls - do you do something liek avatar, CS, BS, rend, cleave, cleave, cleave
stable fiber
when do you all apply rend in aoe pulls - do you do something liek avatar, CS, B...
If I'm Colo I do it instantly
timber marsh
Rend isn't as important for slayer
stable fiber
Slayer you don't really need to apply rend
late yarrow
i play slayer
timber marsh
Just throw it in when cleave and mortal on CD
stable fiber
Just do it when you have a empty gcd
late yarrow
ok cool thanks
stable fiber
Npnp
dim basalt
I will the as ethical as possible on Tuesday when me and enh do adds alone
On dragons*
slow saddle
Arms does more ST in raid and currently other specs kill ads better then fury wh...
Whag
I sim significantly higher as fury
stable fiber
In raid it almost certainly does
slow saddle
Nop
wind flicker
in m+ arms > fury
rare kite
arms gains st benefits from adds tho. getting access to EP earlier is so nice
wind flicker
Without a doubt
stable fiber
On like every single boss
Literally every single boss arms does more boss damage
I cant name 1 it does less on
rare kite
like on saladbar orb for example. if the tank moves the orb close to the boss, the extra damage is real big. whereas fury cleaving ehhh you might gain a tiny bit more
slow saddle
1st 2nd
stable fiber
The only boss it's even remotely close on is voidspire first boss
And even then arms does more on avg
2nd being vorasius?
slow saddle
Than slayer fury? Doubtfull
stable fiber
Check vorasius boss dam
It's miles ahead
Like 10-15k
Even nexus king
It's like 20k ahead
My r1 nexus king where I hit the boss the whole time had significantly less boss damage then my slayer arms kill of that boss
thick kelp
let the fury guys cope
stable fiber
Idk this just isn't a fury tier
It's better on like 2 bosses maybe
2 bosses that don't matter
slow saddle
Hm so its powerfull swings from adds onto boss tactic
Gettin some exes in i c
All i c is recraftin my weap from haste-mastery to crit mastery
glacial plume
I have 2 questions with Arms, new to it.
-
I charge in and do Rend, Colossus and Demolish - I then spam the cleave stacks for max AoE but why does blizzards rotation helper say I should use Sweeping Strikes THEN Cleave? Does Cleave do an extra cleave with SS?
-
If I'm in my standard rotation either ST or AoE with SS to get 3 Collat stacks -- Should I always use Heroic Strike proc if it comes? Because sometimes I'm in AoE, got 3 collat stacks and cleave off CD then I use Cleave and heroic proc is gone
slow saddle
And unleash arms
I really though fury was ahead
I guess last buffs to exe tipped the snipin ability
slow saddle
Confirmed
Arms scales
It just feels more st then i guess as fury coz my overall is highet
Also 2nd boss on prog we move adds 2 far away
I c other arms wars get to switch sides 2 keep way more boss dmg
median crag
arms or fury for the let me solo him thing?
stable fiber
arms or fury for the let me solo him thing?
Fury
last saddle
arms or fury for the let me solo him thing?
thane fury the DR is rly nice
median crag
aite ty
stable fiber
Just outlive him and it's free
slow saddle
Thane fury deffo at 250 wad the play
stable fiber
Arms tier is just way stronger
So it scaled a bit better
Fury tier good for aoe padding, not so much for boss damage
slow saddle
Yea, wanna hear somethin sad
My raid so bad, i still gotta tunnel // save cds for the add thay spawns
Or we fail
undone aurora
Hardest part I find abt arms is just like remembering to rend, it’s such an unsatisfying button I find it’s hard to notice when it even cast correctly
Like sometimes I cast tend and I pause for a second like did it go off?
rare kite
My raid so bad, i still gotta tunnel // save cds for the add thay spawns
lowkey jealous. our 2 devourers just collapsing star the adds and then it's joever
slow saddle
lowkey jealous. our 2 devourers just collapsing star the adds and then it's joev...
Ours just are bad
thick kelp
lowkey jealous. our 2 devourers just collapsing star the adds and then it's joev...
Only 2? My raids got 3
I am not looking forward to dragons prog
slow saddle
We got 1
rare kite
yea only 2 thankfully
rare kite
I am not looking forward to dragons prog
somehow got a big good dragons log. almost 50% of my damage to the adds hahahahah
slow saddle
In raid
slow saddle
somehow got a big good dragons log. almost 50% of my damage to the adds hahahaha...
Did u sd // reap?
ALOT
rare kite
nah i played thane
stable fiber
Yo I was doing so much damage on dragons as arms
Then our priest started using pi on our evoker
And it was over
That 1 pi made his cds line up with everything perfectly
He blew the first set of balls up before my demolish even finished casting
rare kite
ye, tried col for a few pulls on dragons. it did not feel good
undone aurora
how big of a deal are the stat weights on arms? is it notably significant if I arms with mastery/haste gear from fury?
stable fiber
Maybe good on reclear when we stop stacking op classes on that fight like devoker and dev dh
stable fiber
how big of a deal are the stat weights on arms? is it notably significant if I a...
It matters yes
Low crit hurts colo
undone aurora
but how much
stable fiber
But it's playable
undone aurora
okay okay
undone aurora
I recrafted my shit for arms, but when I play I really feel like i'm doing no dmg
last saddle
yeah dragons are a writeoff we ahve 2 devokers 😭
undone aurora
but idk how wrong i'm playing
last saddle
i swapped to slarms right away and just am coping with boss dmg this tier
stable fiber
Lowkey I was coping that adds mattered then the 2 dev specs just blow everything up
Wcyd
tranquil moth
where u use Whirlwind as warrior arms? im looing a video of crown hc and dont see the warrior pressing that button lol
median crag
Did ity ty lads
tranquil moth
stable fiber
where u use Whirlwind as warrior arms? im looing a video of crown hc and dont se...
You dont use it
Ever
Best to check wowhead rotation guide or smth
cosmic halo
Hey, i dont understand why everybody says 12.0.5 is a up for slayer, we lose RS on MS et one free cleave
rare kite
gain deep wounds on slam
rare kite
i thought you were on about st
cosmic halo
Ah in général I mean
rare kite
but we gain bladestorm damage which makes up for the reap nerf in aoe
soft gust
The original ptr change was going to remove the guaranteed reap from Suden Death which would have sucked
recent hotfix got rid of that tho
its kinda fine
cosmic halo
The other changes kinda suck no ?
rare kite
no, the changes are big good
cosmic halo
Like why ?
rare kite
less power in cleave is very nice. spec cleave too powerful, they are buffing bladestorm and demolish(our main cds).
undone aurora
slayer or colossus for windrunner spire?
glacial plume
I have 2 questions with Arms, new to it.
1. I charge in and do Rend, Colossus ...
Bump 🙂
nimble badger
glacial plume
I will check it, thank you
slow flame
man I am trying so hard for my sim to tell me to swap my 2h to haste crit but no matter what sim I run its telling me haste mastery ?!?!
Someone tell me why it wont tell me to grab crit haste on my weapon i just wanna understand the logic
stable fiber
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kGBSPVAqBWnzoSVLg6u1xE
Question
Does that weapon have a embellishment
slow flame
yes
stable fiber
I'm on phone so can't see
slow flame
It does
stable fiber
I mean the one that is simming as a downgrade
sharp goblet
Are you sure? I don't think the one with crit has darkmoon hunt
at least when I hover it
stable fiber
I cant see it on phone xdd
latent moss
for recrafts use top gear
stable fiber
^^^
latent moss
u can click on the plus and change stats
slow flame
bet thanks fam
sharp goblet
why not just sim stat weights 🤡
slow flame
i dont even know what the fuck those are
stable fiber
Don't use them unless you know what you are doing
slow flame
how cani learn
rare kite
don't bother. they are mostly useless
latent moss
the only time stat weights were useful for me was when i wanted to make augury sim neutral back in dragonflight
slow flame
bet
sharp goblet
oh yeah I was joking (the setting is even hidden on raidbots)
stable fiber
I use them to see if I'm fucking up on a Stat, then go to top gear and check
latent moss
even then i couldve replaced it with running a couple 16mil top gear sims
stable fiber
For example, my dk wanted a shit ton of crit and I didn't know that
Because I don't play dk as much as I do warrior
slow flame
im jus tryna spin to win fam
stable fiber
Then go top gear and use it accordingly
slow flame
i dont do other classes
sharp goblet
I use them to see if I'm fucking up on a Stat, then go to top gear and check
usually guides are enought for that (or a glance at stat distributions of top players)
but ye
slow flame
i started wow in tww so still getting used to the game , im lying i started in dragon flight but i only played like 1month lol
stable fiber
Now it's crit mastery
sharp goblet
i read through the talent tree and thought it would be all in on crit
but offtopic unholy kit is so nice man, makes me jellly sometimes
fake melee spec
warm fog
It’s legit gross
sharp goblet
and sick target scaling
sharp goblet
I dont like it's dps profile
tbh most specs are like that
where they shit out damage within 1.5m/2m cds and otherwise don't do much
warm fog
where they shit out damage within 1.5m/2m cds and otherwise don't do much
And it’s generally a good profile
Udk is even better with 45/90 sec windows
sharp goblet
i enjoy warrior tbh (historically I mostly played WW, which also had a cd on every pack)
it feels good to watch cd numbers go down faster
slow flame
Man its still telling me to roll haste mastery
sharp goblet
😂
slow flame
I must be doing something wrong
warm fog
Having another plate dps spec with a lot of ranged abilities is nutty
slow flame
is anybody a fucking goat and can double check with me if I share my simc string
warm fog
Also why does slayer arms feel so much better than slayer fury?
warm fog
Slarms is butter
slow flame
ya slayer is easy
warm fog
It feels like I’ve always got rage and something good to hit
slow flame
yes
its awesome
so should i always trust the sim
I ran 5 targert 2 min, 1 target 5 min
its both telling me haste mastery for my 2h
sharp goblet
I ran aoe sim for u https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/cjwuSjco6rP3iUHoAp2JZQ
crit is better
the best seems to be berserker rage + crit/haste
slow flame
But why wont mine show me that
I have to be doing something wrong
much love tho appreciate you
sharp goblet
can you link the last one you did?
slow flame
omg
sharp goblet
just set all to max
ebon tendon
warriors my alt so less likely im getting myth trinkets for a bit, would crafting this trinket at myth level be dumb. will be a while before im swapping to warrior main and this just seems better than my dungeon options atm https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/kFqPeqxPDkTCLCUtk9Yv7e
slow flame
dont waste a spark on this trinket no
just get hero or champion hunger or hero skyreach trinket or something
ebon tendon
couldnt tell if nice number was just baiting me into thinking its a good idea
slow flame
you need a 285 2hander and bracers
sharp goblet
delve trinkets are also great at hero (Drums for example is simming really well)
slow flame
its probably cause your current trinket is too bad
ebon tendon
POOP
slow flame
lol
ebon tendon
it simmed higher than crucible w/ no upgrades surprisingly
slow flame
guys is arms playable in raid or is fury just that much better
except for the paladins
tired of switching fury
astral yarrow
arms good
slow flame
@sharp goblet ty king
covert mantle
whats the difference between colossus and slayer in m+? i see a big split of the top io arms
fervent cedar
whats the difference between colossus and slayer in m+? i see a big split of the...
Colossus does some of the highest aoe of any class in the game
Slayer has a more balanced profile that trades the insane aoe for better single target
covert mantle
as an estimate whats the % tradeoff?
last saddle
in st? like 18% if you dont have 3 targets
elder path
I think like 15 percent ish?
fervent cedar
Some keys are better for one hero talent than the other, but you can honestly get away with playing either of them.
Algethar as an example is a good slayer key because single target is very important in that key.
Magisters terrace and seat are both good colossus keys because there are multi target bosses
But again, you can honestly get away with either because they both have their strengths and weaknesses
Play whichever hero talent you prefer the playstyle of
Most people have gravitate towards slayer because it is easier to play and its also a lot of fun
dim basalt
I defo like pugging as Slayer more
Unless youre playing at a key level where tanks naturally pull mobs into bosses youre just debuffing yourself playing col
imo
slow saddle
Yup
dim basalt
But to each their own, its unlikely you deplete a key because you played the "wrong" hero spec
slow saddle
Unless u are in seat amp boss + 3 target boss
Also colo with no blue carry
Never again
smoky kayak
it'll be better when you're not trying to use untalented Exe
sharp goblet
I'm loving the execute hate on colosus hahahaha
granite mesa
In M+ Slayer, do we prio bladestorm over cleave on AOE? Considering a pull where you have rage to spam the cleaves after colossus smash?
tawdry bear
Cleave prio
granite mesa
So burn all cleaves, then bladestorm? Or do we even prio sudden death executes?
tawdry bear
Get stacks of SD then bladestorm use stacks sd to get bladestorm back faster.
granite mesa
Oh I see so Cleave -> BS -> Execute with Sudden Death
tawdry bear
SD reduces cooldown based on the stacks on the target, blade storm fully stacks them.
Gets cooldown faster.
granite mesa
And do we ever send Bladestorm outside of colossus smash?
fervent cedar
No
tawdry bear
Not recommended, but sometimes it just happens.
fervent cedar
Our cooldowns are all worthless without cs, always hold
sharp goblet
can you get SD procs during BS? If I have 2 I always send one before bladestorming
fervent cedar
Yes because it comes back fast anyways
quiet bramble
how do u guys get the tunip thing for pre stacking bladestorm?
sharp goblet
So it’s better to hold it for the next CS window then?
yeah pretty much you cs on cd and hold bladestorm for cs
tawdry bear
What sucks is when the tank sits still so you CS then he immediately moves to grab another mob...
fervent cedar
Yeah thats super annoying
sharp goblet
that's why you grab the extra mob 
fervent cedar
Like bro you dont need to get aggro for 5 seconds throw a couple globals and move
warm fog
Like bro you dont need to get aggro for 5 seconds throw a couple globals and mov...
Unless it’s Druid
smoky kayak
I'm loving the execute hate on colosus hahahaha
no hate for Execute, but if you're not specced into it, it shouldn't be as strong of a button
warm fog
I don’t go til they ravage
fervent cedar
Unless it’s Druid
Or vdh tbh, Im afraid to even touch a mob while they are pulling lol
smoky kayak
I think that's actually been one of the big failure points of a lost of design
- they give you the option to make something better by talenting into it
- but you still use it even if you're not talented into it anyway, so you may be weaker, but there's no actual gameplay change, making the "choice" even more illusionary
I'm actually really hype that Colossus will just use Slam over Execute - not because I dislike Execute or complexity, but because it's representative of my talent choices mattering
- to be clear, Colossus still uses Execute regularly in a single target build that's actually specced into the relevant supporting talents
sharp goblet
tbh I would skip sudden death on colo ideally if I could and it was tuned
make that a slayer thing
smoky kayak
I do think being forced into SD is a kind of a miss (as is being forced into EP), but I'm tryin to be happy with what I can get
slow flame
it would definitely simplify the rotation if we didnt need to execute as colossus
smoky kayak
Fury is the same deal - Thane really doesn't need to be forced into Sudden Death and they could have just as easily put Focus in Chaos there intead
sharp goblet
huh I never thought about the tree anatomy but yeah it does suck that you need to get an execute talent to get to Avatar
smoky kayak
huh I never thought about the tree anatomy but yeah it does suck that you need t...
I repeatedly asked them to swap EP for Fatality but the fuck do I know 
fervent cedar
I do think being forced into SD is a kind of a miss (as is being forced into EP)...
I would be a lot more upset about this if colossus didnt have the opportunity to be starved of rage in single target (in M+ build)
smoky kayak
given the fact that we are forced into Sudden Death, having to take EP is "fine" but I would like a little more agency over my rotation
fervent cedar
At least we are forced to take something that gives us something free to press every once in a while if rng is not on our side
smoky kayak
I would be a lot more upset about this if colossus didnt have the opportunity to...
it's a lot less starved when you're not trying to use untalented 40 rage executes
fervent cedar
True
smoky kayak
dependency on Skyfury is a whole other issue tbh
fervent cedar
I really dont like that personally
A buff should be a nice touch not borderline mandatory
warm fog
I can’t think of any other situation in the game where another classes buff has this big an impact on a specs rotation and feel
sharp goblet
I can’t think of any other situation in the game where another classes buff has ...
stacking classes with spriests in group for mana in sunwell hahahah
fervent cedar
I think maybe retribution with crusading strikes, but even then, skyfury isn't needed for their rotation to feel smooth and complete
sharp goblet
stacking classes with spriests in group for mana in sunwell hahahah
for some reason that scenario is hard burned into my brain
warm fog
stacking classes with spriests in group for mana in sunwell hahahah
I mean now
smoky kayak
blizz gotta hire archimtiros
ok but why you gotta ruin my life?
warm fog
ok but why you gotta ruin my life?
Was there ever blue feedback on cooldown consolidation for warriors and arms in particular?
smoky kayak
Yeah at the very beginning of the beta, when they removed Avatar and Ravager
which were then added back for no apparent reason
warm fog
Yeah at the very beginning of the beta, when they removed Avatar and Ravager
My god we were so close
smoky kayak
part of that was probably my fault, I did advocate that Ravager made a good choice with Bladestorm but it should have been passively tied to CS or something - automatically activated when you used the bigger cooldown
frail hearth
is Colossus going to be okay in ST finally in the next patch?
smoky kayak
But the new version of Ravager is even worse, because it doesn't do anything - it's just merc bonegrinder on a keybind
smoky kayak
is Colossus going to be okay in ST finally in the next patch?
it'll be noticeably better, whether it's "ok" is really more of a personal opinion
sharp goblet
i mean we're not stuck - people do high keys with both colo and slayer
and he meant damage, ST will improve
just don't expect to beat a dk or something
sharp goblet
most likely still below average, but not significantly, need to wait for final notes and sims
but it will be hella fun
frail hearth
okay sweet sweet. ty tu
hearty token
What should i take? Got crafted weapon and myth crooked hook
fervent cedar
Puzzlebox is a better on use for M+ compared to hook
Myth weapon here isn't a bad choice tho because you'll be able to craft your second embellishment into your armor next week
For long term gearing - weapon
For short term M+ power until you get raid trinkets - box
hearty token
Guess weapon it is then. Not really planing on raiding much, maining heal normally
Just a side char
fervent cedar
Fair enough
rich kernel
Looking at the top 5% of arms logs in m+, it seems like slayer is being played over col, at roughly a 67-33 ratio.
This goes against the guides and honestly what I was expecting to see.
It also goes against all key with arms at a +7 key level, where its a 49-51 split for slayer/col.
What am I missing here about slayer? Is it just the single target part?
pulsar frost
if box wasnt a hard cast for 2 secs it would be great
just needs to be able to hecking move while casting
pulsar frost
Looking at the top 5% of arms logs in m+, it seems like slayer is being played o...
slayer is just better ST unless col gets funneled, consistent AOE, better in pug
fervent cedar
Looking at the top 5% of arms logs in m+, it seems like slayer is being played o...
Slayer has superior single target and slightly better priority damage compared to colossus thanks to slayer strikes
In high keys people will gravitate towards a more balanced damage profile due to the importance of single target
Unless they can get away with having bad st in a specific comp
pulsar frost
COL is generally nicer if youre in a stack or competent tank, Slayer is better in a pug case
kind stag
colo is very punishing to mess up with too
rich kernel
Cool! Thanks for the info guys
kind stag
slayer is kinda ez, but colo you depend a lot on tank and some other stuff
fervent cedar
Also, slayer is fun
kind stag
bladestorm>>>>>>>>>>ravager
warm fog
Slayer goes brrrr which is important
kind stag
sharp goblet
https://tenor.com/view/cat-slap-slap-cat-cat-fighting-cat-fight-meme-gif-1842676...
that's more fury tbf
tawdry bear
I struggle with ravanger. I feel i only get it every 4th CS.
rich kernel
fervent cedar
I struggle with ravanger. I feel i only get it every 4th CS.
Its a shit button that only buffs cleave anyways
sharp goblet
I struggle with ravanger. I feel i only get it every 4th CS.
if you press CS less you can get it on every CS
fervent cedar
Just throw it out when there's a bunch of mobs and cs is up and youre fine
latent pasture
I struggle with ravanger. I feel i only get it every 4th CS.
Yeah, being able to press bladestorm roughly every avatar feels so good
kind stag
ravager top 3 worst buttons
warm fog
ravager top 3 worst buttons
What’s worse?
kind stag
rend
dark kindle
I never much liked skullsplitter when that was a thing
sharp goblet
rend is bad tho
rare kite
ravager top 3 worst buttons
Top 1 and not Even close
kind stag
id say skullsplitter too yeah but its gone now
fervent cedar
Rend on arms isn't terrible, rend on fury however....
daring prairie
Wod wild strike
kind stag
slam sucks too lowkey
fervent cedar
Yeah i understand the slam hate now
kind stag
its just "there"
sharp goblet
i mean slam is filler it's fine
rare kite
Slams fine. It's just an ability to fish for overpowers
fervent cedar
Feels like a giant do nothing button
quiet bramble
Rend on arms isn't terrible, rend on fury however....
I ugh hate pressing it
vivid dock
Execute isn't even exciting to press anymore 🙁
sharp goblet
colosus gets the most out of rend, slayer doesn't care much and thane is automatic
fervent cedar
Execute isn't even exciting to press anymore 🙁
On slayer it feels pretty good
kind stag
sudden death execute makes me mmmmm
quiet bramble
Execute isn't even exciting to press anymore 🙁
it's still hyped on slayer
warm fog
Ravager is worse than rend
fervent cedar
colosus gets the most out of rend, slayer doesn't care much and thane is automat...
Thane just getting rend for free makes me wonder why it was even added to the class tree in the first place
kind stag
rend is useless
warm fog
Slams fine. It's just an ability to fish for overpowers
Slam could disappear entirely and I wouldn’t shed a tear
sharp goblet
slayer fury gets if for free in 12.0.5
kind stag
on both specs
quiet bramble
slayer fury gets if for free in 12.0.5
aint that ww for fury?
sharp goblet
yeah on fury
fervent cedar
Yeah arms still has to press right
warm fog
slayer fury gets if for free in 12.0.5
Only in aoe right?
fervent cedar
Cringe
kind stag
rend feels like ass, it kinda does nothing rly, its just existing to be pressed at times
daring prairie
I love tallenting into an ability then using another point to make it passive.
tawdry bear
Could we take something other than ravanger? Make the build feel smoother?
daring prairie
On some specs but not all
sharp goblet
I love tallenting into an ability then using another point to make it passive.
I would love the tree 10x more if I could do that
daring prairie
Like..
Why?
sharp goblet
for ravager
kind stag
rend slam and ravager are great examples of why arms needs giga rework
fervent cedar
Cleave is an overtuned button so anything that makes it better must be considered
daring prairie
So does lura
kind stag
i already suggested it but remove ravager and replace it with spear, and give the bonus cleave damage to spear
warm fog
Arms has ravager
No
daring prairie
Lura and arms spec is the same game designer
kind stag
Arms has ravager
already hate it
daring prairie
Thats why its never gunna get reworked arms is the tribute for world first.
latent pasture
Arms has ravager
"top 5 worst sentence"
sharp goblet
i already suggested it but remove ravager and replace it with spear, and give th...
how is that at all better
lol
fervent cedar
its not even an improvement
kind stag
best suggestion is to remove ravager completely lule
fervent cedar
its still a shit feeling global you have to press just to get a buff on another button
sharp goblet
spear and ravager are identical abilities
fervent cedar
nuke it and make it passive
sharp goblet
that desync
fervent cedar
simple as
sharp goblet
with all of your shit
daring prairie
Why does arms have more cds then some specs have main rotation.
kind stag
yeah but spear has some nice visuals that has an additional thing where things get yoinked into it so its nice for cleave stack
fervent cedar
Why does arms have more cds then some specs have main rotation.
it was worse before
flat willow
it's also nice when the tank wants to move the mobs and he can't
fervent cedar
current state of arms is actually pretty decent
kind stag
Why does arms have more cds then some specs have main rotation.
because 5 dudes who cant get over arms keep flaming blizz whenever they try to modernize warrior
quiet bramble
rend slam and ravager are great examples of why arms needs giga rework
next expansion
flat willow
because 5 dudes who cant get over arms keep flaming blizz whenever they try to m...
yes i'm sure blizzard devs are getting bullied by the arms mains here
they are like " man i can't change arms, some rando on skyhold will yell at me "
fervent cedar
they are like " man i can't change arms, some rando on skyhold will yell at me "
considering how often people in here beg for arms to be changed I dont think this is even remotely true
quiet bramble
they let AI reading jokes feedback on warrior 
warm fog
arms play better than 90% of specs this expansion
I’m sorry what
kind stag
they let AI reading jokes feedback on warrior <:okayge:917646812519739433>
speaking of AI i saw their "customer support" holy fug
flat willow
have you seen the state of the specs
daring prairie
Yeah true everyone playing midnight we playing bfa
warm fog
Brother I’ve got 4 different cooldowns with varying degrees of dynamic CDR
kind stag
arms play better than 90% of specs this expansion
aintnoway
flat willow
literally all your cooldown aside from ravager line up
tawdry bear
How much of a dps loss is it to drop ravanger for something else? It feels clunky and I only do 12's, so i am not worried about MAX dps. I just want to make the build feel smoother.
kind stag
for aoe its big
daring prairie
Eventually
fervent cedar
How much of a dps loss is it to drop ravanger for something else? It feels clunk...
large
it is a modifier to cleave and cleave is insanely giga this season
warm fog
How much of a dps loss is it to drop ravanger for something else? It feels clunk...
Just play slayer
sharp goblet
How much of a dps loss is it to drop ravanger for something else? It feels clunk...
atp go slayer
fervent cedar
^
sharp goblet
bladestorm feels much better than ravager
fervent cedar
beyblade beyblade let it rip
daring prairie
Nix both.
sharp goblet
also you can get spicy with it and immune some mob shit
daring prairie
Buff reck
kind stag
give condemn to slayer
warm fog
Warrior felt like the easiest class to prune and streamline
quiet bramble
give condemn to slayer <:okayge:917646812519739433>
wow nostalgia
daring prairie
Give arms wod damage profile
flat willow
do not speak of wod ever again
daring prairie
0 damage from 100-20%
flat willow
may it forever remain in the hell it belongs
daring prairie
1000% from 20-0
Someone's always mad. Archis a warrior not a bibliophile.
Leave the spelling to the mages.
kind stag
real warriors dont wanna read
daring prairie
Hell no no reading no rending
kind stag
read is similar to rend
flat willow
you will rend and you will like it
kind stag
and rend sucks
daring prairie
Still can't believe that was the take away from sod
And wod
Yo warriors hit this key alot
They must like it
flat willow
the take away from wod was " never do this again "
daring prairie
ITS BACK BABEEE
flat willow
and I don't think the sod team has anything to do with anything outside of classic
daring prairie
Yo Jerry im running outa time on these warrior changes. You got any ideas?
You like rend phil?
On the other hand
What if they cut slam and just make heroic strike the new sudden death
smoky kayak
no
daring prairie
Damn
kind stag
archie hates warriors
flat willow
On the other hand
What if they cut slam and just make heroic strike the new sud...
and what exactly will you do if you have no ms no overpower and no procs
wait, i got it
smoky kayak
archie hates warriors
no, I just hate stupid ideas
daring prairie
Then charge we've
flat willow
you people love cleave so much you are finding ways to press it even more than we already do
tawdry bear
I know colossal ks best. But we will be progging paladins soon. Can slayer compare? XD
kind stag
cleave is cool just wish it was baseline and had better visuals
daring prairie
Also I learned that thunderstorming a pack away mid demolish is the fastest way to disconnect from the game.
flat willow
no rend, no slam, just cleave
rare kite
I know colossal ks best. But we will be progging paladins soon. Can slayer compa...
hahah no it cannot
fervent cedar
I know colossal ks best. But we will be progging paladins soon. Can slayer compa...
hell no
tawdry bear
Yeah I figured.
fervent cedar
colossus is giga on paladins
tawdry bear
I figured. I will have to suck it up and get good.
fervent cedar
its not that hard
limber apex
Do y'all play slayer? I just tried it and I think I like it more to make up for the ST
daring prairie
Int a few 12s
kind stag
Do y'all play slayer? I just tried it and I think I like it more to make up for ...
slayer is the best
fervent cedar
when all are together = cleave
when 2 are together = MS
flat willow
the slayer players are currently not here sadly