arms

[kind stag]

no i mean

with rings,the neck has shit proc rate

[worldly field]

The rings just don't proc the neck in our testing

[kind stag]

needs gloves to proc consistently

ive had logs with it but now i cant find it smh

im not sure how "twilight" damage actually works

[worldly field]

Twilight dmg is rarely used, only in like 2 spells ever lol

[kind stag]

idk why they even introduced that damage type like what?

[worldly field]

Its a holy shadow combo but is it's own dmg type

[shadow osprey]

If you had to choose and I was a betting man I'd say overpower, but thats just me

[kind stag]

holoshitto

had an aug evoker in grp on pit of saron

im a believer now

aug evoker op

i get it now....

[misty yew]

Is Plater working as intended? I find mine is working but things like customising it just doesn't work (e.g. sizing plates etc.)

[kind stag]

not sure what Cds they got but our grp felt unkillable too

[kind stag]

plate addons give me too many errors atm idk why

[misty yew]

ye also that but lately no errors..

Just not customisable

[kind stag]

i assume shit needs fixing on blizz side

[misty yew]

Seems when I resize nothing happens

You using a plate addon or not?

[kind stag]

i used, got errors,s wapped to better blizz plates, had errors too, now im on default

[worldly field]

If you look up Metadata on voidlight bindings (the ring set)

[kind stag]

but yeah size always popped the most errors too

[worldly field]

Its actually classed as physical damage

[misty yew]

ALso is there no longer a GTFO addon anymore that screams when you are in dmg

[kind stag]

dbm does it for me

[misty yew]

k

I need to update my addons

so much qol im missing

like swingtimer rage bar

things to tell me to reapply rend like it used to flash and shit

sound WAs

[umbral badger]

my biggest issues so far are just positioning in m+

[misty yew]

in what way

[flint cedar]

off the wall question - How many sparks are we supposed to have currently. 7?

[jade ember]

Yep. Say I crafted 2H and bracers and I have 1 in my bags rn.

[flint cedar]

cool - just checking - Im giving up on my hero\mythic two ton for now and will just craft my 285 tuesday

[umbral badger]

generally if yo uare raiding , craft a gloves

many bracers can drop from raid.

but gloves are only from vault

[flint cedar]

Embergroves drop from Windrunner spire. thought that was our bis?

[glacial ore]

Any Addon to remind me to Combat stance back bro ?

[jade ember]

Class Reminders

[glacial ore]

Thanks

[midnight reef]

Is there a addon to help with Rend ? like that makes the Rend icon destaurate when the target does not have it ? i know the arcui make this, but im already using acdm and i dont want to change

something like this

[worldly field]

I have a cdmanager icon that shows a rend icon with time left on current target

[midnight reef]

Acdm does that, im looking for something that make the rend icon gray when the target dont have it

[worldly field]

But I haven't seen a desaturated one

[dire hinge]

I use ArcUI to accomplish that, personally

i haven't used ACDM yet

you can always try asking in #ui-addons-manager though, it's a channel specifically for UI things and someone may know more

[marsh needle]

You can use ArcUI only for certain little things

I use it only because I prefer its rage bar to Sensei

Everything else I setup through another addon

[dire hinge]

ArcUi can definitely accomplish it (and more), i've been doing some very fascinating smoke and mirror stuff with it recently

like putting CM stacks directly on my Demolish itself, etc

[marsh needle]

Oh and i use ARC for buffs too

There is still so much stuff you can do

[dire hinge]

pretty sure it has desaturation stettings for Aura Found and Aura missing

so you can do either of the schools of thought you want (Yell if found, or Yell if missing)

[midnight reef]

How your ui looks ?

[dire hinge]

im AFK and dont have a picture at the moment, but I have the following:

• Rend icon appears only when its missing on target
• Rend icon disappears when its applied
• A vertical progress bar shows me rend's current duration, and changes colors when its time to refresh (pandemic)

you can easily do the opposite, if your brain likes it differently

[marsh needle]

for someone who wasn’t that great with WeakAuras, my UI is almost more customizable now to exactly how I want it lol

I can just turn settings on and off 😂

[dire hinge]

oh for sure, the UIs now are usually a bit more simple

we lost a lot of in-depth complexity with the death of weakauras, we'll see how many months pass until the community forks it and ressurects it

[midnight reef]

but if i have the ayjecdm and arcui my Ui goes crazy

[marsh needle]

You can just straight up disable anything you want in ArcUI

I just went through snd unchecked everything besides the rage bar and buffs

[midnight reef]

its okay if i dm you to ask some questions ?

[midnight reef]

you

[mental kernel]

dont we loose a shitton of aoe damage in 12.0.5 ptr ?

[umbral badger]

damn as someone who is too lazy to do anything ever

that is nice

just got depressed from some M+ runs, it reminded me of why i don't like doing m+ lol

we lost 2 keys in a row healer doing 50kish

can't keep up

[fresh spire]

you awake or dead

[left shard]

is lights potential better than potion of recklessness?

sim shows it for optimal consumables?

[fresh spire]

@minor gust

i tagged wrong bozo awkard

hello saviour of slayer

asleep or awake is question

[latent moss]

reck pot can be misleading

[dire hinge]

seconded yeah. Light's Potential is safer.
Reck can sim higher, but if you ever change your secondary stats (ie: get a pants upgrade) you could suddenly be doing much less with it compared to Light's Potential

very finicky pot

[mental kernel]

is this true even if you have zero vers ?

[latent moss]

farm voidclaw gauntlets

from seat

they give vers

[dire hinge]

arms likes all stats 👀
but it's mostly because you can accidentally end up with it giving you a different "highest secondary"

[latent moss]

thats the only vers piece i have

and reck pot is outsimming lights potential

[mental kernel]

not what I mean

what i mean is u dont get negatives from reck pot if you have 0 versatility

[latent moss]

idk the answer to your question

[dire hinge]

no i dont think you go into the negative ever

[latent moss]

for me on sims under buffs there is minus vers of w/e its called

but i have like 60 vers from voidclaw gauntlets

[mental kernel]

if u have highest stat as crit and zero vers isn't reck pot always better ? esp on aoe

[latent moss]

idk if it picks vers as the lowest

[mental kernel]

it does

[latent moss]

if u have 0 of it

then it is

sim it if it outsims lights potential play jt

every time u change ur stats sim it again

[dire hinge]

agreed yeah

just sim any time you change gear because it has potential to change a bit (and even be worse than Lights Potential)

[rose ibex]

What would be a cool idea for a new arms mastery?

[latent moss]

reverse devoker

maybe

[dire hinge]

notbad

[latent moss]

and give full bonus during avatar or during cs

[nova marsh]

That would be legit stupid busted

[latent moss]

maybe but its tuneable

[nova marsh]

True but honestly

[dire hinge]

^ yeah, they 'd just need to Do Work™

[nova marsh]

Idk if I want arms to be crit mast

[fresh spire]

imagine being the savour for arms and your not here to be told how good of a saviour you was smh

[latent moss]

xdd

@minor gust wake up

[dire hinge]

rework arms to be channeled/empowered spells, make mastery do more damage per level of empowerment

[mental kernel]

pls no

[fresh spire]

smhmh

[nova marsh]

Hroth please

Please please please do not make us a caster

[latent moss]

nah let him cook

i fw that

[dire hinge]

not my cook, it's archi's

[nova marsh]

Its raw

[mental kernel]

https://giphy.com/gifs/steve-carell-disgusted-10FHR5A4cXqVrO

[nova marsh]

I get it matches the theme

[fresh spire]

[nova marsh]

But being a melee caster just sounds unfun

[mental kernel]

the only spell that would make sense is demolish

otherwise pls dont

[nova marsh]

I mean

If it lets us move during demo

Id be okay with that actually

[dire hinge]

Original posting and discussion: #arms message

and so I have an extremely contentious solution -__ turn Arms into the melee Evoker__ - make practically every major ability a channeled or hold-to-cast empowered spell that has a moderate wind-up and big smash similar to Demolish/Bladestorm/Plunderstorm Fire Axe, essentially a short-duration melee-caster

• this actually does result in a slower APM rotation
• it better fulfills the fantasy of slow/big hits by giving you fewer of the in the same amount of time
• it can still be a highly mobile melee where skill is exhibited through the timing and aiming of your abilities

[nova marsh]

I just dont think id enjoy that

I do want an arms rework and I see the vision

Its just not my arms

[mental kernel]

maybe just maybe if u hold it makes aoe bigger

feels like cleave is smol

[nova marsh]

I mean I also i just absoutlely hate empower as a mechanic

[dire hinge]

visuals would help a lot with that, it's hard to see distance right now

Demo hits way farther than you'd think, for example

[nova marsh]

Demo is wildly different from its visual

[mental kernel]

now it does but in war within it didnt

[nova marsh]

So many times already I think tank pulled it away and it just barely hits the pack

[mental kernel]

and it was ass

[fervent cedar]

Personally, I just think visual and audio feedback is the most important thing to sell on class fantasy. Playing demonology warlock, as an example, rotation feel is similar to most other casters, but visually and auditorially, you feel like a master summoner

adding flair to spells that do things like sending out shockwaves, big impact boom sounds kind of like what overpower and pummel have, breaking the ground apart, would go a long way on its own

[minor gust]

Omg what did I miss

[dire hinge]

you mean the Dollar Store Lightning Bolts we get currently doesn't sell the Mountain Thane? 😂

[nova marsh]

Personally im about actual interactions between spells

[fervent cedar]

we have shaman at home

[nova marsh]

Its why games like eso or gw2 dont hit home for me

[dire hinge]

mountain thane pov

[nova marsh]

Because youre just hitting buttons cuz damage

[minor gust]

I am at work rn what does thou need my child

[fresh spire]

i got good news

[minor gust]

👀

[fresh spire]

👀

[minor gust]

Holy moly

[fresh spire]

This may be on PTR

[nova marsh]

[sharp wyvern]

but is it intended

[fresh spire]

looks like that and the thane change has been fully reverted.

[sharp wyvern]

[minor gust]

Would be really funny if it goes live and they just never implement the 2T SD reap

[fresh spire]

MS and BT remains removed

[fresh spire]

it was implemted, but a recent hotfix changed it back

[sharp wyvern]

did the slam deep wounds thing get reverted aswell ?

[fresh spire]

nope.

slayer arms should do more dps now than it did before .5

as its got back like 4% worth of ST reaps

[drowsy fiber]

Can they just make arms top tier singeltarget

[nova marsh]

No

Cuz blizz hates arms

And its a filthy pad tier

[drowsy fiber]

Yeaaaah

[nova marsh]

Fuck this disgusting tier

Kill it

[drowsy fiber]

Execute trigger reap?

Or they charged it?

[nova marsh]

Looks like it got reverted

On ptr

[fresh spire]

[nova marsh]

Or it's bugged

And I can tell that video is ptr cuz of the bug report

[proud heath]

Is it better to sim dungeon slice or patchwork 5 bosses for M+?

[nova marsh]

Its better to just sim st

More accurate api

And arms's stats do not change between aoe or st at all to my knowledge

[rose ibex]

Nothing is concrete til the patch ships

[nova marsh]

Ye

[fresh spire]

sims aren't set up for dungeon slice so they won't preform correctly.
better off just doing multi target sims with lower durations to match how pulls would go in keys

[vast helm]

Dead

[minor gust]

Wait what surely bug right there's no way they revert this stuff when patch notes are final right

[fresh spire]

#updates-midnight

[minor gust]

Oh fuck

[fresh spire]

confirmed from the PTR datamine that went out recently

[minor gust]

God I am the savior

All me

[fresh spire]

[minor gust]

No one else

[nova marsh]

So wait

[minor gust]

I am at my 2nd job right now hard to check the phone at this one lmao

[nova marsh]

This is offical?

[fresh spire]

until told otherwise "its intended" 😄

[nova marsh]

Okay so

[vast helm]

no blue post today?

[nova marsh]

I think we might be okay

[nova marsh]

Considering a hot fix was just pushed I find it very unlikely we don't get a blue post

Give it like

an hour

[vast helm]

[nova marsh]

I know this is blizzard

But I find it hard to believe when we already know we have a realese canidate that they'd just randomly undo major changes like this

[wind hatch]

🙏 🙏 🙏

[smoky kayak]

[spring vale]

frozenbozo is actually the warrior dev's marriage counselor

thats why the dev is happy now, frozenbozo saved his marriage

[daring prairie]

nah first there gunna push out the bnerfs then there gunna unnerf us and call it a buff in 2 weeks

[fossil thistle]

With changes , I assume we tab target in AoE for deep wound procs?

Or just remove deep wounds entirely at this point 🤪

[fresh spire]

Deep wounds stacks. Swapping target wouldn't do anything it ends up same damage

[olive nest]

@minor gust slayer saved bro let’s gooo

[nova marsh]

Gotta love

That I had a 14

That's now an 11

Omega bricks

[marsh needle]

why not resil? 4head

[mystic summit]

was waiting for a tank for my 14 seat, some1 invited their 3k io friend and he immediately bricked my key on the first pull

[nova marsh]

Ah yes

excuse me why I go full resil to 14 somehow

I stg I'm so cooked

[latent moss]

resil 18 gold gon go crazy

thank god they reverted

these slayer changes

as much as i dont like slayer those changes were just bad idk

[nova marsh]

I like slayer because I like having ST

[latent moss]

mr slayer savior gonna wake up to some good news

[latent moss]

.5 colo

[nova marsh]

I'll believe it

when I play it

[latent moss]

not gonna be the best st but it will be good

with insane aoe

[nova marsh]

Like idk nothing I've played for midnight has felt good

And I've played A LOT more classes then I normall do as well

[mystic summit]

the only st buff colo is getting just the cdr of demo?

[nova marsh]

yes

[mystic summit]

finally finished 1800 on blitz

cia could use queueing blitz around 1400 to torture ppl

[manic pasture]

Is this too high for arms? crit stat

[nova marsh]

My brother in christ why are you jacked

(also goated mog)

[fervent cedar]

so we're using potion of recklessness

[fervent cedar]

I mean we're still getting way less reap value in ST no matter what right

since no reap on MS

its better than it was before sure

[nova marsh]

Yes but now it's not a dead talent for st

[fervent cedar]

valid

reap on rampage is really sick tho ngl...

perhaps next season is slayer fury....

the colo cdr is going to be absolutely nuts too tho, lots of good choices

[nova marsh]

Yeah I feel like if you like both warrior specs

next season gonna be good

When blizzard HOPEFULLY pulls their thumbs out of their asses and balances the game

[fervent cedar]

yeah all this predicated on tuning ofc

design wise looks promising

[manic pasture]

Yeah, I got my gear correct, and I wanted to try it out. I just did not know if I would be mega DR or not. Base with just crit flask I am 34%

[nova marsh]

Design wise....

Arms has a ways to go imo

[fervent cedar]

you do get diminishing returns so after a certain point light's potential may outperform

For me reck is better but the difference is unbelievably small

[manic pasture]

I have simmed so much, I have more sim time today than playing and I have been on since 1pm and it's 8:43 brother

It says reck pot is better

[fervent cedar]

Feelycraft then

just play it

[manic pasture]

yeah the diff is small

[fervent cedar]

the real answer

[nova marsh]

I'd rather have light pot

[fervent cedar]

whatever is cheaper

[nova marsh]

Gotta love these interactions sometimes

(am I kidding thou)

[steep tree]

hiii

[fervent cedar]

Demolish not needed 💪 (+13 MT)

[hoary fossil]

Worst is when you think they are done pulling and you blow your load and tank says JK and grabs another pack

[nova marsh]

That shit on arms

Makes me wonna actually vote abandon like on the spot

"Oh you just pressed CS? TOO BAD, PULLING MORE. GET FUCKED"

[hoary fossil]

In the middle of BS and they run off

[nova marsh]

[hoary fossil]

https://tenor.com/view/am-ia-joke-to-you-meme-original-video-am-ia-joke-joke-to-you-gif-27389464

[steep tree]

how r u all

glad to have found this server

[odd oasis]

can someone tell me why heroic strike goes up in prio during execute?

[nova marsh]

My demolishes must be very large

[steep tree]

hoping to learn how to get better in both pve and pvp especially pvp

[nova marsh]

Rage

we're rage starved to hell and back in exe, and it's the only 20 cost ability we actually want to cast

[brisk shuttle]

Is it fine to macro Avatar+Colossus smash together??

[odd oasis]

👍

[steep tree]

guys is slayer good

or is collosus just better for everything?

[vast helm]

big nerf for cleave wounds on m+

[steep tree]

d'awww

[mild sierra]

Slayer still does very good dmg

Its also more simple

[steep tree]

i have noticed

colossus seems good against pve crowds

and slayer seems good in pvp

[nova marsh]

Bro

It's over for me

actually washed

[dire hinge]

Heroic Leap diff 😎

[nova marsh]

They kited out of my demo

I'm gonna jum,p

[dire hinge]

if youre gonna jump use heroic leap so they can't kite out of your demo

im happy to hear you're solving the problem

[nova marsh]

no hroth

off a bridge

IRL

[dire hinge]

ah, well just save leap for the bottom then to damage-cancel

[nova marsh]

I unironically

am so unbelievable washed

[dire hinge]

(seriously tho just leap if the tank moves shit, you keep channeling and your demo doesn't fizzle)

[nova marsh]

I am just

Very slayer pilled rn

[dire hinge]

that's fine too!

[nova marsh]

I may very well just continue on it!

[fossil thistle]

Yea but multiple targets, MS would on apply it on primary (or secondary with SS)

Unless MS crits aoe deep wounds

[wind hatch]

most people are playing colossus in pvp right now

[steep tree]

ah

[reef glade]

why is name blue

[mystic summit]

pain

[wind hatch]

slayer is better for single target damage though

[nova marsh]

TRP

[steep tree]

tru

it also just

feels faster

[reef glade]

idk what that means but upsetting

[nova marsh]

It's an RP addon

Also at this point since I can't have blue name in damage meters

I can do it in chat

and still trigger all of skyhold

[radiant dawn]

https://klipy.com/gifs/gigachad-13

[steep tree]

me when i see yet another ambitious tank trying to tank all the ads in the tree bossfight of algerath academy (they shall die and lose time)

[wind hatch]

there are a few instances where you might want to hold avatar while sending cs

but it's generally fine

[dire hinge]

yeah, i'd recommend keeping them separate, especially for M+

[nova marsh]

Like for bird amp?

[night bolt]

aoe starts at 3? or do we cleave at 2

[reef glade]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-joe-coin-joecoin-emotiguy-emoti-gif-8703262936571631999

[dire hinge]

yeah cleave at 3, then for 2 you Single target + Sweeping Strikes

[mighty bridge]

in ST do i hold MS until i have 2 stacks of executioners?

as slayer

[dire hinge]

only in single target, during execute phase

[nova marsh]

7

[mighty bridge]

thanks

[reef glade]

eugh why does default m+ build have extended sweeping

forgot to change out of it

gross

[nova marsh]

It does?

[reef glade]

idk whatever one i got does

[nova marsh]

I took the colo one and has it PM

[reef glade]

maybe old idk

[wind hatch]

for any damage amp really

[nova marsh]

It was the most obvious one to me cuz I've been doing a ton of AA

Keys hate me

[wind hatch]

there's one in nexus point too

[nova marsh]

Ik

The one in nexus point is absoutlely disgusting

[dire hinge]

imagine you have a Small Pack followed by a Large Pack afterwards, and you have all cooldowns available right now.
If you have Ava/CS together, you'd only wanna CS the small pack

[nova marsh]

I assume you also hold ravager?

[dire hinge]

yeah

best judgement tho

[nova marsh]

That also assumes advanced knowledge of the tank's route

well sometimes

[minor gust]

Shit dawg Ive been working all day long 10pm finally about to go home. Spent the last 3 hours at work happy that I singlehandedly saved Slayer all by myself with just my forum post

But for real tho all the people that contributed hell yeah, now we gotta do one for arms and rage because that is a fucking mess

[night bolt]

thanks!

[floral tide]

What happened?

[nova marsh]

Slayer reap changes are fully reverted

SD always triggers reap

We just don't have it on ST abilities no more (like MS)

[minor gust]

The compromise to keep SD reap only for 2T I was happy with. But a full ass revert out of nowhere I am super happy with lmao

[nova marsh]

MS still dosen't trigger ye?

Or am I crazy?

[minor gust]

Yeah still doesnt

Onpy SD will proc reap in ST looks like

[nova marsh]

I can live with that

[wind hatch]

MS having a random chance to trigger doesnt really effect the feeling of the spec

[nova marsh]

I mean

It has nothing to do with that lol

[minor gust]

Which means slayer aoe prio will now be cleave op Ms instead of cleave ms op

So op and DN will get more use

[regal wharf]

Finally uninstalled and unsubbed from this dogshit game

I failed my third trial this tier

[reef glade]

OH NAH

[regal wharf]

Enough is enough

https://tenor.com/view/freedom-juwon-ahof-gif-7953414682981155938

Wrong gif

[nova marsh]

Good for you boo

Hope you're happier now

[regal wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/benjammins-handcuffs-handcuff-broke-free-i'm-free-gif-16155775622570243052

[mystic summit]

see you next season

[dire hinge]

aw man, running early Season 1 talents on accident

[regal wharf]

Unless they make outlaw fun

Im not resubbing

[nova marsh]

Gonna be honest

if you don't find outlaw fun now, I doubt they'll change it till you will

(Give me crackshot back god damn it)

[minor gust]

Damn bro. Have you been running three out of four this whole time?

[regal wharf]

Im sayin

Prep is such an awful cd

[reef glade]

only lastl ike 3 dungeons

[minor gust]

Gg

[nova marsh]

Honestly

feels like it's a real testament to how much I enjoy wow's gameplay that I don't wonna quit rn

Even if I think all the classes I like are in a bad spot

[reef prairie]

wow has seriously got the sauce idk how they did it

[nova marsh]

I honestly feel like it's the apm and how classes are designed

GW2 with alacrity feels close to wow APM wise

[minor gust]

No other game comes close to wow combat, which is why wow won't die

[nova marsh]

But it dosen't have the syngery and the dance between abilities

or satisfying fat bursts

[minor gust]

Maybe final fantasy 14 but I didn't really play end game in that game

[nova marsh]

Ehhh

14 could

if
A. The content itself wasn't pretty mid if you aren't a raider
B. Classes didn't somehow feel even more cookie cutter then wow's

Which I have to say is an impressive feat

[minor gust]

I only got to to shadowbringers in final fantasy 14 and even then the combat was still shit

[nova marsh]

I genuinely cannot stand 14's combat and how raid buffs are

[regal wharf]

Its probablt because i play outlaw

And gearing is a fucking nightmare on outlaw

[nova marsh]

The idea of having a whole other 7 people punished because lil timmy didn't hit their button

[regal wharf]

But i vastly prefer ff’s gearing

[nova marsh]

na

sorry

I actually fucking hate 14's gearing

it is objectively the worst in the entire industry

Time gated bullshit or spend millions

[reef glade]

the picking an item with currecny very deterministically is good

and getting "blp" off raid bosses is cool too

[nova marsh]

Yes

[reef glade]

but the process of getting tomes

[nova marsh]

And that's about all lmafo

[reef glade]

is fucking egregious

you are forced to do literal world quests

that level of content

"oh boy time for my daily expert"

i love doing a waste of time normal dungeon for no other purpose but just to get some coins

[nova marsh]

It's not even just tomes

[reef glade]

m+ actually feels like its worth something

[mystic summit]

anybody ever play eso?

[nova marsh]

It's also the fact that I can't gear multiple classes at once

[nova marsh]

ESO is...

[reef glade]

yea i mean thats atrocious too

[nova marsh]

I want to like it

ESO's gearing is RNG bullshit more then wow's

Which is actually impressive ngl

[reef glade]

everyone glazing ff because you dont make multiple alts and can play all classes on the same character

[nova marsh]

at least you have crafted sets>?

[mystic summit]

im talking like 2016 was kinda fun when i had an xbox

[reef glade]

good luck ever gearing a second class for the first 2 months tho of a raid tier tho

[nova marsh]

When the reality is because of tomes and such you are fucked because of it

And I have alts in 14 cuz i'm an rper

[reef glade]

i mean not just tomes

[nova marsh]

It is legitmently

[reef glade]

raid loot is once per week

[nova marsh]

Yes ik

[reef glade]

its just objectively impossible to play an alt

in that game

[nova marsh]

Even on normal for some reason

[reef glade]

at a super high level

[nova marsh]

Some high end raiders have alt characters because of it

[reef glade]

u can craft up to like normal ilvl sure couple million gil

[nova marsh]

But that'd a Fucking stupid level of investment

[reef glade]

yea u have to have a 2nd whole character

when the game like tries to not make you do that

[nova marsh]

I finally lost my house in 14

[mystic summit]

eso battlegrounds were actually fun

[reef glade]

playing the actual raids in ff is kind of fun sometimes

[nova marsh]

and I am genuinely happier for it

[reef glade]

not all the times

but everything else about that game is justl ike objectively inferior

aside from story ofc

[nova marsh]

I mean

wow dosen'tr try for story

If anything, the only reason people enjoyed wow's story was because it was a semi-interesting fantasy world

Then blizzard wanted to focus on a more narrative style experience

[steep tree]

i like wow's aesthetic

[reef glade]

ff is good story but it is al ittle repetitive too

[nova marsh]

I think the problem is

I just don't really care about a narrative in an MMO

[reef glade]

yea i mean its def as tory game first then mmo second

[nova marsh]

The world and it's systems and such sure

But if I wanted to play an RPG

I'd play a normal rpg

[reef glade]

certain ups and downs for both sides of that

yea

[steep tree]

what are your opinions on the void colour change

was it better purple or is current deep blue and cyan better

[umbral badger]

you talking how void spells and shit look like overall ?

[steep tree]

everything is diffrent about the void if u compare n'zoth patch to now

things used to be purple irregular fleshy

now it is all perfect circles and deep blue

[exotic horizon]

Guys what is the fastest way to farm her crest ?

hero

[nova marsh]

Nightmare prey

[nova marsh]

Tbh I think it's better for visual contrast in some areas

So I can actually see wtf is going on

[umbral badger]

i see, all i can say is that on king saladhar last season i had problems as there is a type/degree of colorblindness where you can't easily differentiate between that blue and purple on that fight. so all i can say that whatever is happening there it was not helpful for me

to me just never do any deep blue or blue at all with any purple mechanics ever :p

[steep tree]

tru

i am a certified purple lover

ceritified old god servant

[nova marsh]

Full melee +12 seat

At this point I'm just here for the chaos

[brave silo]

in M+ Is there a huge difference between
Rend > CS > BS > Cleave x4 > ...
vs
Rend > CS > Cleave x4 > BS > ...

[steep tree]

seat is easy

very simple to understand mechanics

l'ura is a bit hard as melee

cuz idk how to move good when she summons the 3 lasers

[onyx rapids]

good morning all
just saw the arms patchnotes
many of the nerfs that was worrisome for both arms and fury have been reverted! good news i guess!

[quick cedar]

which is stronger for M+ arms or fury? high keys - im already 3k

[minor gust]

you will be successful playing either but arms is a bit stronger right now

[tidal igloo]

does any of this look specifically funky? i think rend is low where it should be higher, this is from 1 key, also is there any like way to remind to rend when it is not on all/most targets? like a weak aura would have prob done lol

[minor gust]

nah even WAs werent able to do that. Get used to checking enemy name plates and making sure rend is up. Should be looking at them anyways for casts and shit.

[tidal igloo]

true, maybe ill make the rend debuff bigger on nameplate or something, cuz i get it on pull but then forget to reapply it seems

[minor gust]

can make a mental note everytime Cleave and MS are on CD and you got no SD procs to just hit rend

[tidal igloo]

good idea

thanks for that

[minor gust]

🫡

[tidal igloo]

also, its better to press blade storm during damage amp bosses in m+ right cuz mortal strikee spam

[minor gust]

not just BS. Always a good idea to make sure you have cds for dmg amp phases if possible

[nova marsh]

Yes

Until you get a bad group

[tidal igloo]

yh i meant during cds my bad*

[minor gust]

Yes Unhinged is what makes BS worth pressing in ST so if CS is up on the target press bladestorm

[tidal igloo]

run about 17 but cant get dps above 130-150 depending on key so this should help a lot

kinda trolling

[steep tree]

highest key i ever did was 10

mainly bcz no other groups would accept me

hoping to at least get all dungeons to 10 this or next week

to at least get to 2.5k rating

[tidal igloo]

i def played as tank until this patch whenever i played, so i understand the slow queues now, it definitely can take quite awhile to find a key

easier to push your own

[steep tree]

i could never tank

too scared

ppl r mean to me because of my damage already i do not need to feel responsible for everybody's death too

[tidal igloo]

thats what i started as cuz of the queue times coincedentally, but now dps is much more fun it seems, maybe cuz its fresh but its a nice change

[nova marsh]

Run ur own key

[steep tree]

mine is like 8 or 9 i think

[nova marsh]

So send it

[tidal igloo]

but yea i was going ot say run your own key, if they dont like how u tank if u tried tell them to tank themselves then idk

[nova marsh]

That

has to be one of the most cursed keys

I have ever done

[minor gust]

only 7 deaths and didn time?

other 2 dps not doing any dmg?

[nova marsh]

I mean

I wasn't doing damage either

My sub gear is trash

[minor gust]

shoulda been on your warrior

[nova marsh]

I'm going back to warrior for the weekend

[minor gust]

[nova marsh]

I just fucking can't with rogue

[minor gust]

ive timed a 14 seat with like 15 deaths lmao thats why im baffled yall 5 min over time with only 7 lmao

[nova marsh]

I still wonna swap between them but

Oh my fucking god I'm going insane on rogue

I stg it dosen't matter what I do I do no damage

Class is so fucked

[minor gust]

def not a spec thing because sub rogue fucks in keys

[nova marsh]

Yeah problem

I'm geared for outlaw

I have no mast

Also this is absoutlely cope

But god just give me warrior back

Like I stg

There is no way I'm actually playing a piss easy spec THAT poorly

Oh my god I just crashed out

[nova marsh]

OH MY GOD

colo first boss of caverns

[last saddle]

First boss of saron funnel with the necroburst pad adds that don’t die feels so W

[minor gust]

indeed that shit owns

Pit and MT are banger dungeons

[nova marsh]

Okay ngl

caverns as arms is actually a blast

First boss just gets melted by SS

(I'm only 260 so still poopy

[weak wave]

Got such a result in magisters as Slayer yesterday.

[nova marsh]

do share

[wooden tide]

im confused would i have to kill another boss on H to get a heroic slot?

[pulsar frost]

yes

[wooden tide]

or can i get heroic chimaerus loot from one of the slots

[pulsar frost]

says defeat 2 bosses

[wooden tide]

i know but i was wondering if the heroic loot from that boss is in my loot pool now or not

[steep tree]

can't wait for my myth piece this vault

it will be huge

[nova marsh]

If solarflare dropps

I'm gonna cry

Please my trinkets are so ass

[brave silo]

No, it'll only drop heroic loot if you've filled the requirements for heroic on one of the slots

[abstract sphinx]

this any good for arms? ima sim it but just wondering

[steep tree]

same

hopefully i get gaze of the aln whatever when i raid with my group on sunday

[nova marsh]

I don't raid but

I should do heroic

[steep tree]

i only raid like

once a week

[nova marsh]

I've just been so busy with two toons

[steep tree]

i am afraid of leveling alts

do i have to beat the story campaing again

for each one?1

[nova marsh]

no

[steep tree]

phew

[nova marsh]

Skip with zoridormi

[steep tree]

nice

i might level my demon hunter priest paladin death knight then

they are all lvl 80

[nova marsh]

I will probally level my enhance for next season

During next winds of fortune

[steep tree]

also

is there such a thing as myth pvp gear

i wanna wear pvp gear but not have to downgrade to champion

(i am almost full hero)

[dusty dagger]

it's just max lvl myth pve gear

all pvp gear bought from conquest scales to max myth in pvp content, but if you have that gear from pve, then it doesn't even matter

[storm canopy]

Can anyone look at my m+ log to help improve

[steep tree]

ah

[smoky kayak]

it's decent because 2 sockets, but not best

[finite ginkgo]

guys is slayer arms getting buffed in keys with recent changes?

[dusk lake]

At this point i lost track

They keep changing the changes

[slow saddle]

Hmm mayhaps?

I mean it should keep same st at least then?

Nah prob a loss tbh

Its ms reap at 20%? Or was it 15%? Vs 20% bladestorm?

[quasi mica]

hows arms if i dont have raid trinkets? is it playable without them? cus im playing devourer rn and it looks like devourer is literally unplayablke without the 2 raid trinkets

[slow saddle]

No spec is m8

Dev did well without still does well

[quasi mica]

well ele and warlock dont need them for example

and devourer trinkets are like 4% upgrade each from the previous best dungeon trinket on myth track maxed

[slow saddle]

Truth but gaze from hc

Tbh both from hc

[brisk shuttle]

how do you guys keep track of when heroic strike is active?

[slow saddle]

Big ass slam on bar at face llv

[sharp goblet]

yooo intercept on tank and dbts feels so good in algathar first pull wtf

any other coinvenient places for this tech?

[vital depot]

what's dbts ?

[crude sonnet]

die by the sword

[vital depot]

ty

[slow saddle]

Also dont do that shit unless its a real grp

[robust idol]

which food is recommended to run for M+?

[sharp goblet]

yea ofc, we were a full premade (with Aug and Warrior first pull actually isn't too bad, not that much kiting)

[slow saddle]

Aug brotha eww

Rly good though🤣

[sharp goblet]

haha this friend always rerolls, this is legit the first time he likes playing all 3 specs of a class ever

[fossil thistle]

I’ve yet to have a positive experience with a PuG Aug Evoker I won’t lie

[fossil thistle]

I just drop hearty harandar on 12+

[sharp goblet]

we did 2 PoS back to back where he played dev first then aug, my overall was literally the same in both runs 🤣

i’d rather have skyfury

[fossil thistle]

Yea pretty much.. It wasn’t noticeable, I’d rather a dev doing 110k or so vs an Aug doing 45k

[sharp goblet]

but like we can feel the vers and healing increase

so it’s comfier, good defensives

[fossil thistle]

They could’ve just been bad augs though, I know the ingame meter doesn’t portray their true dps

[sharp goblet]

we log it to see, usually i get about 15-20%

[fossil thistle]

🙄 honestly the hpal I typically run with is like half attentive and not using CDs on 11/12s

[sharp goblet]

and his overall is slightly below the 2 dps (when all is accounted for)

[fossil thistle]

That’s not bad then

When I get a guild Aug they do like 80-90k overall in the game meter and the 2 dps are like 135k

So there’s definitely a difference with pugging them, likely just CD usage and syncing 🤷‍♂️

[sharp goblet]

but we’re doing like 15s, I think value goes up in higher keys

[fossil thistle]

True

[onyx zodiac]

just starting to play warrior this expac, what are we playing fury or arms for m+?

[fossil thistle]

All three specs are good

[slow saddle]

Same

Also always check logs of aug dmg never details

[halcyon valve]

Arms
I am biased

[slow saddle]

I dont think the crit he gives dps is atrributed back 2 him

Keep that in mind

[slow saddle]

U can play both arms flavour of the month

[halcyon valve]

I always play arms

[sharp goblet]

i mean the answer is arms even if you are not biased

big crits

[slow saddle]

yeah i mean

if its even close

its arms

every day of the week

[latent moss]

idk i feel like i do less overall with aug

in 19s

[slow saddle]

stealer of dmg confirmed

now

[halcyon valve]

[lime ruin]

Are there viable colossus builds that don't take ravager

I dont like it

I like colossus but don't like ravager

[sharp goblet]

not really

alternative is kind of stinky as well, with no synergies (bladestorm)

[rare kite]

Ravager needs to go

[lime ruin]

truuuuue

[mental seal]

Yo I've been using the CDM to play an audio track when sweeping strikes falls off but it seems to only work when the sweeping strikes buff falls off after 30 seconds and not if all the charges gets consumed

is there a better way to track it?

[umbral badger]

my love letter to ravager.....To the one skill i wish i never used.
I have imagined you completely unhinged, but you were turned into unhinged not. . I believed in the potential of your power, but you were only a placeholder, a phantom blizzard built to fill a silence that I have now learned to hate.
my final words to you, ravager:
kindly, Fuck off.

copy pasta material

spam in blizzard forums 🤣

[rose ibex]

Bonegrinder

[obsidian moss]

Kinda on the same boat, but its more like the sound is randomly played or not

[umbral badger]

i still wouldn't mind getting unhinged ravager back with this 4 set 😮

that would make colossus ST go craaazy

[thick kelp]

@latent moss natty stats

1.4k crit with crit flask

3.2k crit during reck pot

[sharp goblet]

i mean if they nerfed ravager and made it passively pop with every CS or something I wouldn't mind it at all

the only annoying part is the desync in cd (and forcing you to cleave ST, but I guess that's fine)

[steep tree]

idk how i got here

[latent moss]

holy

more crit

[rare kite]

idk i just don't like ravager for col in general. has too many cds

prot has the correct version of ravager. the one you don't press

[slender raptor]

Aside of cleave not triggering Mortal wounds, the 5% nerf to practiced strikes' damage buff is the only thing affecting colossus arms' damage output with 12.0.5, right?

[latent moss]

colo does more st and same aoe

in .5

[rare kite]

demolish buff makes up for the aoe and the st is getting buffed overall

[slow saddle]

So having demo up 24/7 in aoe

[rare kite]

col eating good

[slow saddle]

Is just net zero?

[daring heron]

dooming is over (for now)

[latent moss]

just need ravager to get shot

[rare kite]

for now indeed. i doubt this was the last we've seen of thane nerf

[slender raptor]

Ohh I see, I've read the patch notes completely wrong, only focussing on the latest class tuning patchnotes, thanks for the info 🙂

[latent moss]

yep

i mean we lost deep wounds on aoe

[slow saddle]

True true

And a cleave

[latent moss]

lost some cleave dmg

[slow saddle]

Also. Dw on demo is there

[latent moss]

ye true

good changes for colo overall

just need ravager to get shot and it will own

[fresh spire]

Now we doom about slayer fury

[daring heron]

true

[fresh spire]

Testing arms and fury on ptr does feel like reap proc rate from cleave and rampage needs a bit of s buff

[daring heron]

yeet

[slow saddle]

Arms is same procc rate?

As now

[rare kite]

yes

[elfin kindle]

Brown is meta

[brisk relic]

do we use cleave in 2t? or 3+?

[slow saddle]

3

[brisk relic]

ait, awesome! trynna get used to arms playstyle

[slow saddle]

Watch bizenstein youtube video

Explains a lot

[brisk relic]

just did yeah, understood a lot from it

[elfin kindle]

2t filler if it starts shining

[brisk relic]

awesome

[sick stratus]

does anyone have a picture or smth with cleave effective area of effect? I'm just not feeling it and keep missing some mobs in packs

[slow saddle]

Its a guesstimate

[umbral badger]

my eyes, what is this, an entire team of ZUG ZUGZ

how can you guys even find your way with a collective count of 12 brain cells

[slow saddle]

12?

[thick kelp]

Something like this

[slow saddle]

Its 120 or?

[brisk relic]

question again, so Biz says dont mortal strike in execute phase unless 2 executioners precision, but also dont execute unless lots of rage or proc, so what are we pressing then? full slam and overpower? and apex procs?

[sick stratus]

unironically helped lmao, I thought it was way wider

[vast helm]

Dr.Biz ?

[thick kelp]

160

[slow saddle]

Give us 180 tbh

[rare kite]

360 and add like a little bladestorm effect

[vast helm]

720 for the opp strike back

[lunar acorn]

in m+ pulls or council fights do you send ravager + cleaves before demolish or send demolish right away and then ravager + cleaves?

[swift flame]

opener ravager + cleaves before demolish, after that you demolish >5 stacks right away

it's still better to pre ravager col smash always

don't want to spend the global within the cs window

you will still get 4-5 cleaves within the ravager window

[lunar acorn]

alright

thanks

[swift flame]

rather than opener its more accurate to say 0 stacks of colossal might

[serene blaze]

hey, can someone give me the tldr why we delay bladestorm and use cleave / execute with slayer arms?

[daring heron]

they'd give it the twirl animation like rend and cs

i'd take the tradeoff though for a 360 aoe

[swift flame]

bladestorm doin piss damage likely the reason

may as well wait till u have cleave on cd / no sd procs. though im sure its not a huge loss to bladestorm with 1 stack of sd while cleave is on cd

[serene blaze]

oh ok ty

[swift flame]

would be fairer to say cleave damage is insane tbf 😛

[rare kite]

i was mostly memeing coz it would literally just be reap the storm but not on a proc

[cinder field]

does the 12.0.5 brings a buff or a nerf to arms?

[vast helm]

to be honest i miss big whirlwind for Arms.

[inland drift]

thank hell no nerfs

[rare kite]

i mean slayer is still losing a bit of st

[inland drift]

ffs

[slow saddle]

Collosus gains st

So i mean

[kind stag]

i got a 2nd socketed helm from PoS before the neck dropped like what are the chances

[spring vale]

31 deaths in seat and we still timed it 💀

[kind stag]

i didnt know brew monks were also dps

[wooden berry]

Spriest pumping in m+?

[kind stag]

i usually remember spriest being decent in m+

wasnt it always issue that there were better casters than them though at all times? (locks namely)

[night mauve]

evo is your third ?

[robust summit]

hey guys, quick question (maybe it is already answered before). Is it a must have for a warrior to have a shaman in m+? As i understand (and as it feels) resource starving is quite a problem with ST encounters, but shamy solves this prolem. Am i wrong?

[kind stag]

ww monk

3 monks, spriest and me, im surprised i did well lol

[rose belfry]

How much of a % nerf will the change to crushing combo be ?

[kind stag]

i dont think much considering we are gaining in other areas no?

bladestorm buff, demolish buff

[rose belfry]

Bladestorm buff in .5 ?

[kind stag]

from what i understand that change wasnt reverted

[viscid fossil]

ppl keep saying colo big aoe but slayer has some st at least. but how significant is the gap between slayer and colo aoe if i pick arms up for the aoe in the first place

[kind stag]

colo aoe is stronger but depends more on funnel and tank pulls imo

[viscid fossil]

so its not like default 100k more just bc

[kind stag]

colo aoe is top 3 in the game but you gotta know

arms slayer is default easier

[viscid fossil]

so more of a skill isse / when everything aligns kinda deal

[kind stag]

yeah

i defo suck on colo compared to slayer

[slow saddle]

Also like slayer deffo better in avg grp

[kind stag]

100%

[slow saddle]

Also some dungeons

Like aa

Boss dmg rly matters

[delicate turret]

1st boss are you spamming whirlwind or just using sweeping strikes?

[kind stag]

1st boss? define

imperator?

[runic heath]

people dont want to break out their abacus and math out the ability prio on colossus. Slayer is more popular for a reason, its just more intuitive.

also all my homies hate ravager

[slow saddle]

Its not that, its more col requires tanks 2 pull shit into bosses

[dire hinge]

And pull big trash outside that

Lotta pug tanks pulling packs of 3, full health, just standing there

[kind stag]

im homie

[slow saddle]

So thats wrong

Packs of 3 legit makes col shine🤣🤣

[dim basalt]

Some keys col is definitely better but in pugs it's not worth it

And playing Slayer will never be the reason you don't time a key

Even as Slayer you will be topping keys

[indigo zinc]

I suck at colo make me sad

[undone aurora]

I have not played arms in quite some time, anyone mind having a gander at my logs and telling me what i'm doing wrong/should improve? just respec'd today :D https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/hkqBKXY8R6L2Ad7D?fight=1

I learn better from correction of mistakes rather than theoritically going into something after learning it pre emptively

[minor gust]

Nothing don't worry about it

[sacred zodiac]

@hexed saddle control your third iteration

[stable cairn]

How do you sim for dungeons?

[errant citrus]

You sim ST

[latent moss]

100%

i think algethar is a must slayer key

[dim basalt]

Any dungeon without funnel is Slayer tbh

[latent moss]

depends on comp ye but u need good st in that key

[last saddle]

slayer i always get 0 SD procs firstp ull and only do like 280k

so lame

[latent moss]

first and voraxus u can funnel a bit but

those 2 are w/e

[dim basalt]

Very bit

[latent moss]

crawth in pugs sounds

interesting

[dim basalt]

Excited for our numbers after .5

[shut token]

Would the raid multi target build be okay to use in some mythics as well?

[latent moss]

but i have no clue about pugging been premade all season

[latent moss]

idk whats the raid mutlitarget cause u usually play full st and take powerful momentum broad strokes

and those builds have nowhere near enough aoe

[latent moss]

i pray we get more st tuning

and arms is broken so i just keep playing arm

[errant citrus]

Class is cooked

[dim basalt]

ST goes up a bit no?

[latent moss]

colo gains like

[viscid blaze]

What do you mean by funnel? new to wow 😄

[latent moss]

7% or sum

on st

same aoe

[dim basalt]

Big

[latent moss]

which is big but idk if that alone will save me from dk jail

idk warr legit mega sucks with aug

[sacred zodiac]

funnel is when you can use additional targets in an aoe fight to do more damage to a priority target

[errant citrus]

Even critcake/biz struggle to make ST good, for normies doing 10-14s, we’re hopeless

[dim basalt]

More single target damage by having more enemies around, like through more Colossal Might stacks through cleaving

[latent moss]

i do less dmg with aug

[viscid blaze]

Right ok, that makes sense, ty

[minor gust]

Fuck aug

[viscid blaze]

Ive always been struggling with boss damage, im playing Colossus

[dim basalt]

Im not convinced of aug either

Most maybe aren't that good

[latent moss]

nah aug is

mega ultra broken

i mean for most people kt doesnt matter

[dim basalt]

Im pugging 16s

[latent moss]

cause u will play in a phys comp

but im not so

[dim basalt]

Can't find many good ones here lmao

[viscid blaze]

Is everyone playing Slayer now in M+?

[latent moss]

its looking like dk angle for me unfortunately

[minor gust]

You can play either slayer or colo it doesn't matter

[dim basalt]

I outdps locks and eles by 20-30k, that's how bad 16s pugs are

[latent moss]

i did some 19s and 18s with aj from method

[sacred zodiac]

i do love how this is going under the radar cause it looks bad on details

[latent moss]

sure its aj but aug ks just insane too

[viscid blaze]

Are you sending your Sudden Death procs instantly?

[minor gust]

People will just refuse to accept aug is good out of spite

[latent moss]

classic

[dim basalt]

Do you also raid?

[latent moss]

no

idk about aug in raid aside from it being insane on amps

[minor gust]

Depending on the situation no. Only if I'm at 2 stacks of SD will I prio it over anything else

[viscid blaze]

I was too used to the Execute WA 🙁

[minor gust]

Well its still high prio so

[dim basalt]

Tbf the exe wa was only needed because of Jugg

[shy dew]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cheer-squid-game-celebration-bpTL6wXRuMQpMIVduB

for atleast 3 weeks we'll still fine guys

[viscid blaze]

So smash Execute when SD is at 2 stacks or about to lose a single stack?

[wraith nova]

is there any particular reason why everyone crafts a sword instead of, say, an axe?

[minor gust]

Sword looks cooler

[wraith nova]

transmogs dont care 😉

[sacred zodiac]

maybe this is why your damage is sub par

(i dont know the context)

[minor gust]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1294680138042183711/1358901241375359179/Battle.net_J86KgwOoYA.gif

[vast helm]

no cleave wounds?

[sleek crow]

I think sudden death execute is always prio over overpower

[last saddle]

no

[wraith nova]

is there a way to get the blizzard cooldown manager to glow Rend when not applied?

[dusk lake]

You can right click on it while in cdm and add an alert when it expires

[minor gust]

Thank you for your input olive oil but I wasn't referring to OP when I said I didn't immediately send SD procs as I get them

[last saddle]

if op is capped at 2 stacks and you ojnly have 1 of sd shouldnt you op to not waste resets inc ase you run out of juice

[wraith nova]

I guess thats something, feels a bit weird becuase I think its glowing by default on casters with dots not on the target?

[sturdy flicker]

in st. do we always hold bs from cs

was just messing around and a bs came ofdf cd right at end of cs windo

[dusk lake]

Hmm never noticed something like that

[wraith nova]

also I can just see "On cooldown", available and pandemic as alternatives

pandemic doesnt do anything, at all

[sleek crow]

"Only if im at 2 stacks will I prio it over anything else" I think overpower qualifies as anything else

[last saddle]

if you're at 1 stack its not like using the stack now vs next global rly changes anything though (unless you need to use it to get bstorm off cd to line up with a csmash better)

[minor gust]

Yeah meaning if you have 2 stacks it's highest prio if you have only one it's normal prio. Things like MS and cleave in their respective situations are more important than SD

[sleek crow]

Ok just dont get pissy because you messed up what you said

[minor gust]

[sharp goblet]

What even 😂

[latent moss]

more demo casts makes up for it but ye no more cleave wounds

[wide needle]

I do tank st as the wowhead colossus talents

Skill issue

[mortal crag]

may u fill me in

so ik whats optimal

it sounds important

[nova marsh]

No you do

Colo ST is legit probally some of the worst in the game

[jade ember]

Its just too good at cleave man, is what it is

[nova marsh]

It gets better in .05

[sharp goblet]

we need a raid and/or dungeon where every boss is 3T cleave

for variety

[jade ember]

Blizz found a way to make me want council bosses touche

[minor gust]

Me and words don't get along with each other

[nova marsh]

ya know

I hate these tanks

stop chain pulling the whole dungeon

[mortal crag]

cmon 😢

what was the convo about

i need to learn

[stable fiber]

300k dps on 5t

big fan

[sharp goblet]

so uhh this sims as my best non-raid trinket on arms, wtf I was sure solflare was going to beat it (it's literally within 0.1%)

[stable fiber]

that is a lot of crit

and if it procs a decent amount i could see it being good

[minor gust]

Wasn't something that isn't just answered by reading the wowhead guide or watching Bizenteins guide

[nova marsh]

vs myth?

[jade ember]

Last time I used it in a dungo I think logs said like 30% uptime idk, it does sim decent

You can change the stat proc too

[sharp goblet]

compared at 276 (since that's grindable), obv at myth it would lose out (unless there is a way to get myth level open world shit, which I don't think there is)

but I'm just surprised

[inland drift]

AM I Stupid

so coll smash gives 12 sweeping strikes

[nova marsh]

Okay

[inland drift]

does it stack up with pressing sweep strike to 24?

[nova marsh]

Can I just say slayer in Nexus point is so good

With the amp

[nova marsh]

no

[inland drift]

amp?

[nova marsh]

Cap is 12