arms

[dim basalt]

but 4-5 is more realistic

Unless you farm everything yourself which is pure madness

[calm hollow]

holy

[olive nest]

[calm hollow]

how much u sim?

[olive nest]

Sec let me run it on mobile pretty sure I logged in ST talents

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/4ZXe2spgzFPurXspA1Y9xh

About 500 dps from heroic crests next week + whatever my vault/myth crests get me

[calm hollow]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oeGgopEis5R9Wj9RS7Zpqv

hmm

[olive nest]

Aye you’re right there too!

Oh you got the neck!

That’s sick

[calm hollow]

1st vault

lucky

[olive nest]

I think that’s .1% upgrade for me technically

Like 115 dps last I ran it

[calm hollow]

you would lose some crit with it

[olive nest]

Yeah probably would have to switch gems to run it

[calm hollow]

oh wait, 1 talent was wrong for me

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/v1VrK8S8pyKdiZzJ5NfqhQ

[olive nest]

I have the damn puzzle box too

Need guidon myth track

[calm hollow]

why?

[olive nest]

Guidon is omega bis for arms

Let’s you extend your cs with it into your next cs

[lime owl]

had puzzle box and replaced it today with guidon...man what a difference!

[olive nest]

Also no bullshit cast

[lime owl]

feels so much better

[oblique lodge]

Had a plan to do so , stopped playing wow 5 months

[olive nest]

That’s also good trinkets yes

[dim basalt]

Then be aware that it will take a really long time

To the point it might be better to farm gold instead

[olive nest]

I’d rather have guidon/heart personally but gaze is also very good for arms

This tier is all about damage windows with add spawns so to me having on use makes sense

But the puzzle box cast is so ass

[azure basalt]

I got one piece of mythic from the vault, a head
And like 150 myth crest, should I save them to upgrade a potential myth weapon or trinket? Or just use them on the head which I already converted to tier set ?

[olive nest]

Upgrading myth track helm to 6/6 is never a bad choice, would be smart to 6/6 a heroic helm first to save the 20 myth crests but not super detrimental in the long run

[leaden coral]

ok bro

[leaden coral]

u are in the last titan while we are in midnight

[azure basalt]

Ok so I should just use m'y myth crest to max this head gear to 289?

[olive nest]

Yep that’s a best in slot item at max ilvl great choice

Also gives you an item to socket if you roll a shit vault

[thick kelp]

@latent moss hows my stats

[olive nest]

Hollyy

[untold trench]

Need more speed, a lot more

[late lantern]

so do we ever use slam/hcstrike in aoe?

[floral tide]

Cleave does it for you with the right talent

[latent moss]

hoooly

[olive nest]

That’s gotta be what like 1250 Crit stat?? 😆

[stable fiber]

i have 51% crit chance with vorasius heart and wep proc

hmm thats good

[stable cairn]

got this from weekly quest for heroic gear, is it any good?

or disenchant type of gear?

[stable fiber]

its bis if you gear around it

[stable cairn]

yeah lol just kidding

[stable fiber]

it has 2 sockets which is just plain better then other jewelry

nah not kidding

[stable cairn]

I was just joking, I know its good

but so much haste

[tacit crystal]

how the fuck

[stable cairn]

need crit also

[stable fiber]

yeah you need to gear heavily around it

[tacit crystal]

i think im barely at like 24%

[stable cairn]

@stable fiber do you know roughly how much of each stat you want as arms?

[olive nest]

Bro just farm m+

You want like 1k Crit/haste

Ez game

[stable cairn]

okok

around the same?

[stable fiber]

alot of crit/haste

little bit of mastery

0 vers

[nova marsh]

Doubble sockets is YUGE

[stable cairn]

Got the vers part done

[stable cairn]

yeah lol, got lucky as shit

[stable fiber]

keep seeing people get crazy shit from that

i got some leggings i guess

(i have 289 legs)

[stable cairn]

ahh, unlucky

[olive nest]

I got a cloak from the weekly dungeon cache

[tacit crystal]

gg

[split ocean]

How is arms stacking up against fury in mythic+ dungeons as well as raid?

[olive nest]

Arms owns

[stable fiber]

better in m+ and can be equal in raid

though idk how much i like this spec in raid

esp slayer

feels cringe to play on some fights

[left shard]

is the effect included in sims?

on the neck from last boss?

idk how it is for arms

[tacit crystal]

is that with flask

[clever wave]

I think the only fight I’m going arms in raid is paladins

[thick kelp]

Hooly

[clever wave]

But been slamming m+ with it and it feels very nice

[latent moss]

ye and all silver

like silver rank

enchantsa gems everything

[olive nest]

🐐

[tacit crystal]

im not gonna burn my gold for it

gg

[latent moss]

ye same

[thick kelp]

jst say yall poor

smh

[serene horizon]

quick question, I got radiant plume in my vault, this thing turns into umbral forever once I press use on it right?

[olive nest]

Burnt like 500k so far this expact

Feelsomegabad

Idk why consumes have to be so damn expensive this tier

[candid pecan]

burned 1.8M, boosted 2.2M back

[olive nest]

Idr it being that bad

[candid pecan]

we chilling

[tacit crystal]

i might have burned 160k gambling

[olive nest]

That’s what’s up good shi

[thick kelp]

@latent moss reck pot sims more for me now

Holy fuck im gonna bat

[latent moss]

i should prolly sim it

[olive nest]

Wait reck pot as haste??

[split ocean]

Thanks for info. What’s the pros and cons of slayer vs colossus and what’s better per mythic+ / raid scenarios?

[thick kelp]

my demolish CDR will be like its gonna be in 0.5

[olive nest]

[thick kelp]

its gonna be as crit for me

ome

[olive nest]

That’s 🔥!!

Pretty sure my stats are way to close to reliably get crit

Any random haste and gg

[thick kelp]

I got around 500 to play around

[olive nest]

1047 Crit
1041 haste

Oh I guess I could change flasks lol

Or maybe gems

High haste gems in right now according to sim but could do crit gems and maybe always proc crit reck

[stable fiber]

slayer does more boss damage colossus is more burst aoe

[thick kelp]

@latent moss I will have 3k crit stat when reck pot active

[tacit crystal]

hey im new here what is 57

[thick kelp]

idk

[olive nest]

I have no idea either pretty sure Xan* put that on us during April fools haha

Probably some meme about being skyhold noober or something who knows

[latent moss]

axaxaxxa

peak

[olive nest]

3k Crit on vanguard sounds omega

Imagine that at the 5 minute alignment

[latent moss]

reck kinda gapping

primary stat for me

+crit -vers

makes sense

[stable fiber]

i might start using it ngl

think crit is my highest stat rn

[tacit crystal]

it owns for me

im like 100 above haste

[sly stirrup]

Want to start playing arms in keys but the rend uptime management is what is kicking my ass with the rotation. Any advice on better managing uptimr with rend for trash and multitarget pulls with sweeping strikes?

[latent moss]

im below haste without flask

[tacit crystal]

oh deR

[stable fiber]

idk i just use it at the start of every pack then forget about it

[quiet bramble]

imperial colo or slayer?

[stable fiber]

usually the mobs are dead or it falls off and i dont really need rage anymore

[old urchin]

I’m jealous of all the crit. Having to use a mix of fury and arms gear since I raid as fury. Later in the season will be better.

Only fight I play arms is council.

[stable fiber]

haste is higher then crit for me

⏰

[latent moss]

helm and shoulders stat

[sly stirrup]

Is rend uptime really not that important? am I overthinking it?

[latent moss]

piss me off

[stable fiber]

ig i should get rid of voidclaw gauntlets

they have vers on them

[latent moss]

then u dont lose vers

with reck pot

aware

[stable fiber]

its pretty important at the start of a pack

its most likely when you are the most rage starved

just use it once at the start of each pack then forget about it

dont need to pandemic it, just once

[quiet bramble]

impreial run colo? i saw on warcraftlog

[stable fiber]

what is imperial

imperator?

think you can play either

[latent moss]

first boss i assume

[quiet bramble]

ye imperator

damn it

[stable fiber]

ive played both, colossus did more damage on adds, slayer did more boss damage

[olive nest]

When I sim reck pot it is triggering mastery even though Crit is my highest stat when Crit flask is used

Why would that be?

Oh never mind it’s because puzzle box on use

[stable fiber]

trinkets perchance?

[olive nest]

Gg

[stable fiber]

lmfao

[olive nest]

Dog ass item

Need guidon asap or something

Maybe plume

[nova marsh]

Whelp

[sharp goblet]

hmmm, guess I should sim this, I just defaulted to stat pot, but my crit is higher than haste at all times

[nova marsh]

easiest time of my life for AA

Nevermind, lag wants me to not play the key

But I got my tank friend in que

[sharp goblet]

tank friend = not an easy time in my experience

[nova marsh]

Bro this guy

makes keys piss easy

[dim basalt]

Could be me

[nova marsh]

it's like

having a 4th dps that never dies

[dense mesa]

anyone got a meter for what a 12+ m+ key should look like

[thick kelp]

which spec

[nova marsh]

waht key

[dense mesa]

arms this is the arms channel lol

[warped owl]

hero spec

[dense mesa]

anything i just wanna see what the breakdown looks like

slayer arms M+

[thick kelp]

Colossus

[dense mesa]

XD

[warped owl]

real

[stable cairn]

slayer more fun IMO

[fervent cedar]

So true

[stable cairn]

but I miss demolish

[thick kelp]

Slayer

[dense mesa]

just did first key as arms and my reap was top lol and i donty think thats right

maybe it is lol

[fervent cedar]

Cleave should almost always be on top typically but reap is usually pretty close

[warped owl]

reap is your aoe its fine if its top

slayer does not amp cleave as much as colo

[dense mesa]

was my first key like ever as arms lol

[fervent cedar]

Yeah that looks normal

[dense mesa]

i did terrible overall but i wasnt playing it correctly im sure

[bleak fog]

Back in the good old days I had a WA with a red cross right on my char so it was easy to see exactly where I was in overcrowded pulls :).. Is there any addon that can do the same?

[fervent cedar]

There is an ingame character highlight feature you can use

[bleak fog]

Ohh

[fervent cedar]

Lot of missing context so we cant know for sure

[warped owl]

what dungeon and key level

[dense mesa]

yeah it was a +12 skyreach im sure i was overlapping SS and not using cleave enough

[warped owl]

spam cleave on 3t+ and sudden death if 2 stacks

[slender sonnet]

Excellent paint work sir

[dense mesa]

okay yeah i was only cleaving if MS andd SD procs were gone or on cd

[warped owl]

cleave overtakes MS on 3 targets for more reap procs im pretty sure plus fervor of battle so thats the main button aside from SD

[dense mesa]

awesome thanks!

[fervent cedar]

Yes on 3t you just press cleave on cd p much for reap and fervor

So your opener is usually charge > rend > ava > cs > BS > cleave cleave cleave

[dense mesa]

stats are 26-25-26 im usually a fury only warrior but i gave arms a shot idk if im bout this life lol

[fervent cedar]

All stats are good stats

Arms does prefer crit but it's not a big deal

[dense mesa]

i just got the SR trinket that run toio i was using hero drumds with crit proc lol

[warped owl]

crit can easily be obtained by spamming pit for drops

[fervent cedar]

Or if you just have crit jewelry

[warped owl]

that too

[bleak fog]

This thing sims high as hell, can I trust?

[tacit crystal]

youd need to make sure you have the 4 modules

[warped owl]

do you have the upgrades from the researc?

[bleak fog]

Hmm

Not all

[warped owl]

raidbots sims by default with all of them. you can turn those off you dont have

[tacit crystal]

you can get 3 of them in one reset

4th would need another one

[torpid zephyr]

Think I'ma swap to arms from fury boys
Im aged out of how fast fury is getting with 270 gear and all raid buffs

[bleak fog]

I have done like every week, not sure if I did last week

[torpid zephyr]

I can't keep up and feel like I'm missing globals. Like my buttons aren't showing what's up when fast enough

[latent moss]

windrunner last boss

makes me want to

take off my skin

[tacit crystal]

me too cro

good thing i just make others do the mechanics for me

[bleak fog]

Thats right, right?

[warped owl]

you got all

[fervent cedar]

Yes

[warped owl]

only the first 4 at top

[untold pewter]

Bottom 3 don't affect the trinket

[bleak fog]

So then I can trust sim? 😄

[fervent cedar]

The reason this Sims high is because it has a crazy amount of uptime

[warped owl]

ye it gives like 170 crit at 90% uptime

[echo tendon]

It's just a crazy strong trinket and I'm honestly surprised it hasn't been nerfed more

[warped owl]

its nerfed by only being champ track

[nova marsh]

Yall ever just

relist at the worst time humanly possible

[bleak shadow]

guys the macro for "#showtooltip
/use [known:frappe héroïque] frappe héroïque; frappe mortelle" doesn't work anymore ?

[thick kelp]

lots of frappes

[flat willow]

frappé héroique

[bleak shadow]

yes didnt translate but you understand

mortal strike and heroic strike

[mellow seal]

for multi target slayer in ST phases can i cleave instead of slam or just slam for filler

[fervent cedar]

Slam for filler

Unless you are colo and ravager is active

[nova marsh]

Ngl guys

Feels good to see so many warriors in que

[fervent cedar]

People didnt believe

The propaganda was strong

[nova marsh]

And yet here we are once more

standing tall

as warriors

[slender sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/armswarrior-warrior-warriorwow-armswow-armswarriorwow-gif-27099127

[olive nest]

https://tenor.com/view/armswarrior-warrior-warriorwow-armswow-armswarriorwow-gif-27099127

[hushed trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/armswarrior-warrior-warriorwow-armswow-armswarriorwow-gif-27099127

[quiet bramble]

man st target is so aaaah

[halcyon valve]

[olive nest]

Slarms gaming

[mellow seal]

no rend in st arms opener?

[marsh needle]

It’s the first button you press

[mellow seal]

wowhead doesent show it was confused

[olive nest]

I rend after charge before CDs, just because it feels right

[inland drift]

Stabby

[marsh needle]

It shows it on colossus, but not slayer, not sure why maybe just lower priority

[olive nest]

Mean while maintaining rend is like the top line of the prio hahaha

[nova marsh]

...Okay ngl

[olive nest]

That’s why I just send it off the rip and maintain it

[nova marsh]

I think I finally get nexus point

[halcyon valve]

colossus bleeds do more damage

[smoky kayak]

Rend is not as high a prio for Slayer is why

That’s really all it is lol

[whole kettle]

Slayer for keys is pumping boyos, 11 WR

That was with a death too

[elder zealot]

@safe vigil Thanks for making the Arms guide! I think it'll help everybody in this channel a lot

[whole kettle]

+1, using that build

[fervent cedar]

Biz the actual goat of arms

[minor gust]

🐐

Now the people can stop complaining that there's no video guides for arms

[rare kite]

@daring heron so when is your arms guide?

[marsh needle]

Is that on YouTube?

I didn’t know he created content

[whole kettle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsCiMCFdkfA

[olive nest]

Biz the arms 🐐

Always has been

[sage badge]

Biz owns

[olive nest]

Biz owns

[jovial hare]

omfg and he put time for both hero trees
bless biz

[thick kelp]

Arms owns

[jovial hare]

Biz owns

[elder zealot]

Biz, Critcake, and Archim are the Holy Trinity for Arms

[unkempt moon]

So I’m just coming back to warrior. I enjoy all the specs. Is arms the way to go right now?

[olive nest]

All day every day

[elder zealot]

Every day is Arms day

you only do legs if you're a monk

[jovial hare]

arms owns
but if ur trying to crank on a dps warrior and get the most out of the class overall
fury is prob a better pick atm
but then u look dumb with two bigass weapons, unable to swing with some heft

[safe vigil]

I hope so man, and thanks to everyone else here for the kind words
arms owns!

[jovial hare]

do we have any tricks for gargs in pit?

like DKs can just wraith out of grip

[elder zealot]

I'm so glad somebody else said that, I've always said Fury looks overdesigned with two 2H, but I feel most people just go "it looks cool lol"

[minor gust]

If you are slayer should be able to charge out of it if there's mobs far enough

[jovial hare]

oo I forgot about freedom charge

[unkempt moon]

Coool thanks, I’m def started for fury right now but that can change also enjoy arms more in keys

Stated

[dire hinge]

also clears chains in Seat and the circle in Vortex

[jovial hare]

fury also has to invest 8 sparks if you have bad luck with weapons

[elder zealot]

Yeah Relentless Pursuit is great, works on the chains in Seat as well (as mentioned in Biz's guide)

[unkempt moon]

Had the good luck lol

Got carried it carried thought 1 ten first week (was shaman main at the begging) and got a weapon lol

Damn I can’t type

[jovial hare]

one thing i love abt this discord is that usually it's incredibly helpful as long as people don't make an ass of themselves when asking for it
my buddy calls skyhold "Meatheads with spreadsheets" and i find that pretty funny/awesome

[unkempt moon]

Shaman discord is a mess of no help lol im never worried about getting at least one straight answer in skyhold that isn’t in the pins. Appreciate the help.

[minor gust]

Depends on the question asked. If it's super dumb it will get ignored or roasted here

[olive nest]

I gotta say this is easily the best class discord in my experience followed by rogue, any time I’ve tried to dabble with a random alt I go to the class discord with questions and usually just get either completely ignored or told to read whatever guide and then ignored lmao

Warriors are based Gs I’m telling ya

Cool crowd

[wooden lava]

how are the crafted items simmed?

for some reason i can't get a 285 version of the wrists on raidbots

[dire hinge]

Droptimizer -> Epic Professions

[wooden lava]

I did that, but there was no option for embellishments

[minor gust]

Can add them in top gear

[wooden lava]

from the searchbar right?

[minor gust]

Add the crafted item from the searchbar

Then go to the item hit the plus sign and remake how many different versions you wanna sim

[wooden lava]

for some reason i can't get it to 285 here

[neon shale]

Wym

[wise yew]

Which of the written guides are worth looking at?

[jovial hare]

4 sparks per 2hander

[neon shale]

Shit that’s right in my head I was thinking two per

[rose ibex]

Sv hunter channel is full of chill helpful folks too

[dire hinge]

to my knowledge they all should be accurate (most are written by the same people, or at least collaborated together here)

if you have any specific or clarifying questions, we're here to help though

[rose ibex]

Found the augs pretty helpful too

[icy atlas]

Both Wowhead and Icyveins are written by Archi. Don't think you can go wrong with either

[rose ibex]

I wonder what everyone's experiences are with the different class channels

[wise yew]

Appreciate it. Mostly just getting my bearings around arms at the moment.

[wise yew]

Nice, thanks.

[minor gust]

I think that's the wrong crafted set. That's the blue one gotta be the epic ones that you can put sparks into

[wooden lava]

yeah I just realized the problem, thx

[minor gust]

🫡

[rose ibex]

I think the more niche class channels are generally all better. The channel just doesnt get flooded the general populace and the die hards stand out more

[wooden tide]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6dU2699i7fwortRR7Cb9iK

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/2soGAg1R9FNC7AX1VkPQD1

why tf is m arms siming less than 10k higher than prot

[dire hinge]

arms single target isn't great

it shines in funnel situations, where you're doing big AoE and can prioritize a big target within it

[wooden tide]

still 42k seems extremely low

[dire hinge]

welcome to arms 🎉

you're also looking at Single Target sims using AoE talents, so that's not too surprising

[rose ibex]

I just learned there is a quest that gives a totem weapon tmog in dragonflight

[nova marsh]

Guys

Do resto druids have a bis trinket or smth in windrunner spire?

[floral tide]

Something ain't right here. Might be your talents

[nova marsh]

Tauren only unfort

[wooden tide]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/xAyzMi7U29wYi7ePpJ1CGb with wowhead ST build

im not tripping right si feel like i shoulnt be simnming that low

[daring heron]

with no consumables/buffs sounds about right

[nova marsh]

Hi crit

[ashen night]

cant find a aoe opener for slayer in the guides or im blind.. do we use all cleave charges and then bs or bs first?

[rose ibex]

The only character I have that isnt a tauren is my goblin monk

[dire hinge]

try patchwerk instead of target dummy

[nova marsh]

Holy based

[rose ibex]

Favorite race since wc3

My first character was a gnome. Everything was big. Taurens were bigger. When we moved to horde I never looked back. Gradually the race got almost all the classes as well

[minor gust]

Charge rend ava/CS cleave X4 SD (if not at max ID or at 2 stacks) BS

[rose ibex]

I like being the biggest

[wooden tide]

okay that was it ty

idk why it defaulted tho settings

[ashen night]

sorry what is ID?

[olive nest]

I started opening like that too after walhe mentioned it being a gain but sometimes cuts it close to BS being inside of cs on all targets

[minor gust]

Imminent demise slayer talent

[minor gust]

Realistically you should always have max ID stacks

Build them before the key starts

[rose ibex]

I always forget rend and add it after cs usually heh

[olive nest]

Should try your best to break that habit

[olive nest]

Oh god another tier of smacking the carrot or the fish

[minor gust]

Yup

[rose ibex]

Turnip punching bag bis

[minor gust]

ID lasts a minute so will stay up for every dung

[last saddle]

They shluld have it reset

[olive nest]

Just take the high road and refuse to do that garbage

[minor gust]

I'm fine with it because it's easy and it makes your first BS not shit

[onyx oracle]

is anyone else simming higher on dungeon slice with fury? at this point is that just stats difference?

[minor gust]

Dslice hasn't been maintained right now.

Sim ST and call it a day

[fossil quiver]

weapons? rings?

[hushed pine]

From weekly box

[minor gust]

Good Colo ring

[hushed pine]

https://tenor.com/view/jediwizard4-mario-super-mario-bros-the-super-mario-bros-movie-super-mario-galaxy-gif-1118808738098365631

[minor gust]

No you

[hushed pine]

https://tenor.com/view/not-in-the-mood-gif-27683059

[mellow seal]

i got herioc heart and an ass second trinket thoughts

[minor gust]

276 pretty sure that's a mythic heart

[mellow seal]

i got a herioc track heart, but my 2nd trinket is pretty terrible so i was thinking about taking gaze

[minor gust]

Ahhh I see. Best answer is gonna be to sim. Gaze isn't great for arms tho luckily you got plume which is our 2nd bis with heart

[hushed pine]

Take Plume if you don't have it already imo

[mellow seal]

yeah either plume or heart i was thinking

[olive nest]

Plume kinda owns

[minor gust]

If you are mythic raiding heart should be easy to get unless it just never drops

[olive nest]

Can easily swing stats

[mellow seal]

my guild has 0 trinket drops ever so

[hushed pine]

then take Heart

[minor gust]

Well you got 3 options heart plume or one of those mythic armors

[mellow seal]

i hate puzzlebox man

[hushed pine]

Everybody does

[minor gust]

You can't really go too wrong here

Depending how ass your 2nd trinket is. Likely I would go plume simply because of how far until you kill mythic beloran + lots of ppl want that trinket vs heart think only warriors want it

Myth tier hands shoulders early bosses so easy to get too

[rose ibex]

I still have champ trinkets

Wind heart and bird crit crystal

The hunt for the big crit heart is eternal

Is gaze really not great? I thought wowhead has it as s tier

[minor gust]

It was until it got nerfed for like the 2nd or 3rd time

[trim maple]

is arms better than fury now? plz help me ❤️

[minor gust]

Sure

[olive nest]

All day every day

[minor gust]

[woeful mulch]

guys, i was simming earlier today about wich 2h to craft for arms, and the fast mace is about 65 dps over the sword and blooming axe. Can someone explain why? I always thought slower= better.

[thick kelp]

weapons are normalized

thats called variance

it happens with every sim

item

[vestal raptor]

how long is acceptable to hold demolish until I have colossus smash on paladins? or would you arms enjoyers just send it

[minor gust]

Slower = better hasn't been a thing in over a decade. All weapons are the same at equal ilvl

[nova marsh]

With the expection of daggers

Evreything else is equalized

[sacred zodiac]

dagger smf

[woeful mulch]

Huh, i guess thats when i was the most active xD I suppose i go with the mace for more a minimum of more rage i suppose?

[nova marsh]

What

Chief

[sacred zodiac]

what does that mean

[minor gust]

The type of weapon doesn't matter

[nova marsh]

craft whatever is cheapest or has best xmog

[minor gust]

Pick which one looks cool

Or cheaper to make

[nova marsh]

You're overthinking it

[olive nest]

Send it anytime youre by 2 of them pretty much ones always fucking off in Egypt somewhere

[woeful mulch]

haha, okay then. ill just look at the mats then 🙂

[olive nest]

Few key points where you get to hit 3 for a solid chunk

About 5 minutes in especially with all buttons and second pot

[minor gust]

With paladins being a 2/3 target fight demo shouldn't really ever be desynced from CS

[wild spade]

So is everybody just going to leave fury behind now lol

[minor gust]

If you are playing right

In 12.05 maybe

[civic topaz]

does cleave get higher prio when collateral damage procs

or treat it the same on ST

[olive nest]

Oh yeah I failed to read fully, you don’t ever seperate demolish from cs

[minor gust]

Yes press cleave if you have 3 stacks of collateral. Prio over OP

[daring heron]

@safe vigil good guide broski

[dire hinge]

well said and thorough 🏆

[minor gust]

Now when people ask you for one you can send them to Biz

[daring heron]

exactly

[thick kelp]

!guide

[minor gust]

!guide

[dire hinge]

Are you single target? -> Press Major Cooldowns, then Mortal Strike on cooldown
Are you multi-target? -> Press Major Cooldowns, then Cleave on cooldown

[minor gust]

Ty Hrothbot

[dire hinge]

hehe hrothbot was my rocket league smurf account

played it using an Elgato Stream Deck (the one with the 9 little LED buttons) and pushed it to champ 2 without a joystick

[rose ibex]

"No one really asked for a guide but f*ck it i want to make one anyways"

[dire hinge]

based

[rose ibex]

The joke is the comments in his previous videos

[teal marsh]

!Guide

[dim basalt]

ayo we got a video guide to link whenever someone asks for one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsCiMCFdkfA

[dire hinge]

!guide

[mellow seal]

there like no arms pov for mythic fights

QQ

[sacred zodiac]

theres no dps warriors on mythic fights

[dire hinge]

tbf there isn't a lot of arms in the fights to begin with

[mellow seal]

i hate this tier it is just a cringe pad fest

[reef prairie]

Its a sad tier to be a melee, warrior especially

[minor gust]

Ehh not really

[reef prairie]

You are not taking warrior if you have other choices on the last 3 bosses

[wheat perch]

Just in time, lol, just need a cdm that shows heroic strike now

[reef prairie]

So id say yes really

[minor gust]

Glad you watched rwf

[reef prairie]

Decent enough in keys rn tho

I mean its not just rwf lol

[minor gust]

Good for you

[sacred zodiac]

you are cluegi

[minor gust]

Insert mute spongie gif here

[gritty sparrow]

Yo question, I've been running some target dummy sims to improve my out of execute rotation and compare my actual target dummy damage to the sim numbers and battlelord seems to be doing poorly in ST sims, but when I actually play with it im outdpsing my sim? anyone know if there are some weird target dummy bugs with it or something?

[sacred zodiac]

the sim number it spits out is an average of thousands of iterations

if you proc more or crit more you'll beat the target dummy sim quite easily

[gritty sparrow]

Yeah makes sense, just even after 10 or so attempts ive consistently been 3k or so above the sim, which usually doesn't happen for me 😅 so just wanted to see if there were any known bugs or something

[kind stag]

guys i found out you can play sound files ingame with a command

[thick kelp]

welcome to the club

[kind stag]

/run PlaySoundFile(7250907, "SFX") i macrod it on avatar

[umbral furnace]

any good guide for warrior arms rotation for dumb people?

[kind stag]

wowhead does the job well

[thick kelp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsCiMCFdkfA

[elder zealot]

Biz really saving us so much time

[nova marsh]

Man

[floral tide]

Such a good guide

[elder zealot]

He should get royalties every time we post it

[nova marsh]

Not raiding was such a good choice

[floral tide]

I learned so much

[slow saddle]

Guys like him, keeps us as ftier raid spec, 2 good 2 dedicated

[civic topaz]

always save demolish for when I use CS?

[rancid robin]

Imagine having critcake tagging in ur queue but u can't take it 😭

[slender sonnet]

No trinket

why do I even play this game

[minor gust]

Not with that attitude

[rancid robin]

What do u mean ? x)

[solar ocean]

boys I take plume right?

[nova marsh]

is plume just hero?

[solar ocean]

ya hero plume, the solarflare prism sims very close tho so its tough

[slender sonnet]

I should quit

[solar ocean]

within 0.1% of each other

[slender sonnet]

So bad

[hexed garden]

are we supposed to use potion of recklessness and make sure crit is out highest stat so we get tons of crit?

or how does it work

[nova marsh]

If you want to min max stats you can use it

But do keep in mind Procs affect it

[kind stag]

at least you got the kills

[minor gust]

You are cursed like my voarsius is cursed. Two weeks in a row I get screwed over from a good parse kill

[nova marsh]

PErsonally I say it's not worth the brainpower for that, and it also constantly screws with sims

[hexed garden]

so is light's potential better?

[slow saddle]

Light 1 me thinks

[hexed garden]

to avoid getting cucked by procs

[slender sonnet]

I got an add on the fucking execute

and 0 heals

and I was out of shit to live

and died

[nova marsh]

Lights potentional is better to not owrry about doing weird ass shit like cancel auraing a trinket proc

[slow saddle]

Do u got any versa?

[nova marsh]

I honestly don't feel like reck is actually worth it

[minor gust]

Both weeks we had a low % wipe while I had a 98+ and then kill it next pull while I have to worse rng ever or was killed

[hexed garden]

170

[slow saddle]

Arms life

[slender sonnet]

I got 1 good pull

and the rest just giga bad rng

[slow saddle]

Being panda = adds dps

Like fr arms without battlelord feels horrid

[minor gust]

I have never rage starved as slayer in raid as much as I did on that voarsius kill

Was gg

[slow saddle]

Fr new buff arms

80% aa dmg

20% more rage

Give me that free st dmg

[slender sonnet]

I dont parse on first boss tbf cause I just go full ST

[slow saddle]

Tbh add needs to die end of story

[slender sonnet]

Yeah I swap to add then as soon as it's dead back to boss

[minor gust]

If you don't want to play Colo play slayer with cleave collat

[slow saddle]

Yup

[minor gust]

Can do something to adds

[nova marsh]

New arms buff: AA rage now scales off of damage done ]

[slow saddle]

Keep in mind mythic isnt about parsin but killin

[slender sonnet]

yeah I know

[slow saddle]

And this raid

[minor gust]

It is when you have already killed it

[slow saddle]

Cocks melee parses

[slender sonnet]

I just feel like I have the worst RNG ever

with arms

[slow saddle]

M8

U have 90 rage in exe what do u press?

[mystic summit]

finally got voidclaw gauntlets after 20 runs 🙂

[slender sonnet]

depends on if I have ep

stacks

[slow saddle]

Answer is op

Btw

Or u risk starvation

[slender sonnet]

wut

how

[minor gust]

Better hope you get tac procs then!

[slow saddle]

Fuck if i know

But if u can op at 90 app u op

Coz it buffs next ms as well

Ofc sd first

[slender sonnet]

huh

[slow saddle]

Or hs

[rare kite]

lowkey i feel like you can just press things as arms and it somehow works out parsewise(to a degree ofc)

[slender sonnet]

ic

[slow saddle]

Or press perfectøy

[umbral badger]

guys for some reason no matter how much haste i get my char is always starved for it 🤣

[minor gust]

That's how it's always been

[slow saddle]

And fail

[slender sonnet]

what build do ppl play on dreamrift m

cause we're trying that now apparently

[umbral badger]

is it just me or is haste constantly better than crit atm for arms ? at this gear level at least

[slow saddle]

Fury

[slender sonnet]

no

[summer niche]

https://klipy.com/gifs/armswarrior-warriorwow

[slow saddle]

Its miserable as arms

[summer niche]

https://tenor.com/view/phil-heath-bodybuilder-posing-gif-20432602

[slender sonnet]

really?

fuck

[slow saddle]

I mean

As melee

Fr just go full st

Get broad strikes mby

Kill prio add

[umbral badger]

well, you could say dreamrift is fine for arms if your guild is lacking in boss dmg only, but the moment you start taking into account chaotic cleave for adds

nope

[slow saddle]

Coz all the hc pad is gone

[slender sonnet]

Ic

[rare kite]

chimaerus prob the worst arms boss. well arms vs fury, since both warrior specs are jsut ass at alleria

[slow saddle]

If u step on some1 u explode

[minor gust]

If your raid lets big boy get close before swapping to him you can broad + powerul

[slow saddle]

Y arms needs st buff! For chum 2 be fun

[slow saddle]

We do but theres never enuff globald

12 is enuff

[slender sonnet]

I doubt we would

[umbral badger]

like problem with chimaerus is , even the perfect add stacking which can make colossus shine a bit, you use your shit on teh adds then you have zero boss dmg.

fury is just better

[near ice]

worst boss for anyone that isnt in grp 1

[minor gust]

Alleria is p3 waiting room

[umbral badger]

in this situation

[slender sonnet]

idk

Im gonna go just full st and make a call of what to try

[slow saddle]

Grp 2 enjoyer🤣

[olive nest]

Yeah you just try to be mostly correct and the rest is highly dictated by procs lol..

[slender sonnet]

I refuse to play fury tho

[slow saddle]

I tried 2 go pad small adds

[tepid citrus]

Not for me. Give me crit all day.

[wind hatch]

i vastly prefer being in grp 2

[umbral badger]

so long story short when i tried colossus for one try at chimeraous i was doing insane DPS then i was like 'what's hte point, my bsos dmg is lower than tank"

[slow saddle]

Killed 3 peeps🤣🤣

Got yelled at, now i hug boss🤣

[umbral badger]

sadly this is consistant with every mythic boss atm if you look first boss mythic for example, colossus arms does more dps overall but they all have tank dps on boss

it's sadge

[olive nest]

1047 Crit (flasked)
1041 haste
On my toon

[slow saddle]

Realisticly thats coz only col arms is any good

At what its good at

[rare kite]

yea honestly prob arms angle when i get there. fury padders and also .5 prob out then as well

[slow saddle]

Slayer arms is pretty bad atm

In raid

[umbral badger]

also the fact that thane does good aoe without losing ST almost at all

which is probably why the nerf is coming ot it

[last saddle]

change dmg to boss dmg

[olive nest]

I disagree I hold my own as slayer arms

[slow saddle]

Not almost

They dont loose st

[last saddle]

thats bc you are 280ilvl and have full bis

[slow saddle]

Is col had 3% less st than slayer arms

[umbral badger]

1100 crit 1050 haste, i had to get some mastery cuz i had almost non though

but haste seems to sim better consistantly now but it could be just a matter of a haste break point "for CS 4 set"

[olive nest]

Well yeah no doubt, I’m just saying when people claim slayer arms “isn’t good in raid” they are just wrong it does just fine lol

[umbral badger]

yea they only lose ST on bosses where thre is 6+ enemies and thus spamming thunderclap for padding rather than normal rotation

and you can see that on saladar

[safe vigil]

oh you watched it hahaha, thanks man

[last saddle]

my slarm sim is like 9k under my slury sim bc my stats still borked 😔

[wind hatch]

the adds just arent frequent enough for colossus to feel good imo

[last saddle]

been grinding saron + xenas to no avail

[last saddle]

W

[umbral badger]

hey i've not been up to date. what's going going on 😮

[olive nest]

Guide is phenomenal always like your guides first one I saw was the Superman troll landing in the arena back in shadowlands haha keep it up! 💪

[dim basalt]

Biz the goat made a video guide

[umbral badger]

lets see what biz the wise did on youtube

this time

[slow saddle]

But thats a choice

[last saddle]

the bizantyne emperor

[olive nest]

Soon soon!

[umbral badger]

yup, and i am not allowed ot make such choices in my guild xd

[safe vigil]

that was one of my first, crazy you remember that haha

[last saddle]

bizantium

[olive nest]

Biz owns!

My goat

[dim basalt]

Our goat

[olive nest]

🤝

[slender sonnet]

I'm oiling myself up for this

[olive nest]

Lmao

[slender sonnet]

(Im rubbing cocoa butter all over my arm I got a new tattoo yday)

[umbral badger]

i am always glad you are here to do the research and shit for us, the lazy asses xd

[nova marsh]

Pad tiers always are

[slow saddle]

I wouldnt. I wanna kill boss, cant afford loosin st

[umbral badger]

yup

[slow saddle]

If fervor was 2t

Holy dragon

[umbral badger]

i always end up just having fun on HC bosses in first weeks of progress then sucking it up on mythic bosses

[olive nest]

I made the mistake of trying to bring Colo to first boss and add pad.. our MMs and devourers just ate that add pad alive it was gg

Next week log surely

[slow saddle]

Same

[umbral badger]

so if i get a 99% parse once or twice in mythic i ma happy

[rose ibex]

How do y'all make gold? I am bleeeeeeding my coffers this season

[slow saddle]

My hc parses are filled wirh pad

[nova marsh]

Btw

How is higher seat keys for warr?

[umbral badger]

to be fair i did not parse for shit in hc this season, i had to learn new specs to even exist xd

[exotic knot]

Boosting

[slender sonnet]

yeah I tried that and gave up almost immediately

[nova marsh]

We just pop dstance and sr for chains and chill in first area ye

[slow saddle]

Played thane

[rare kite]

ethical. adds have to die

[slender sonnet]

and just went slayer

[umbral badger]

i've been making gold the same way since vanilla wow, tailoring nad enchanting xd the one way that's always given us passive gold generation. not a lot of gold just enough to survive with all consumables.

[minor gust]

It's even more ethical as colo

[umbral badger]

so basically this week i made 140k gold this reset

[olive nest]

I think I’m playing slayer on first 3+chimaeras permanently Colo on dragons and paladins

[minor gust]

Just have your dks grip adds to you

[umbral badger]

and 140k gold lasts me 2 weeks with all gold star consumables

[slender sonnet]

I lost 300k gold gambling this raid

[nova marsh]

Skill issue

[umbral badger]

so i always say , guys, if you are lazy as fk like me , go enchanting and tailoring xd

[wind hatch]

😢

[rose ibex]

Im an engineer for life but I did swap out mining for enchanting

[nova marsh]

Tbh I dont feel like gold is worth it

[rare kite]

yea i tried a few col pulls. did not play well so swapped back to thane @minor gust

[nova marsh]

For price

[slow saddle]

U need mabny alts

[umbral badger]

YES , i have this friend at over 100m gold and i don't get what is he farming for

[rose ibex]

I have 6 90s atm

[umbral badger]

it makes me crazy

[slow saddle]

Y

[rose ibex]

I love levelling stuff

[umbral badger]

i am at 200k , more than i need

[slow saddle]

Get proffesions

[rare kite]

as in i did not play well. got discouraged by 2 devourer dhs destroying the adds

[umbral badger]

200k gold, sometimes i go up to 300k and sometimes to 150k but i've been at that gold range forever

[rose ibex]

I guess i should just play my druid double gathering stuff

[slow saddle]

Fackin dhs

[olive nest]

We alternated mass grips it was so nice except we have 2x hunters and 2x devourers and once my co war became wise to the arms superiority we had 2x Colo arms so those adds quite literally evaporated on the mass grips lmao
**oh yeah and we have a devastation Evoker… bruh like I’ll never log in this raid

[rose ibex]

Was hoping for something else

[minor gust]

I'm loving dragons progression as Colo. It's fun! Until our Dev DHS grow a brain

[nova marsh]

Thats insane

[umbral badger]

what's good about enchanting is, you can just run the 4 delves "as long as you have coffer keys" and get like 5k per delve or more "depends on crystla price"

and if you are tailoring you get more

[slow saddle]

Y and just get some pointd

And conc craft

[umbral badger]

best thing is to have passive gold income in wow

[minor gust]

Yeah I need to get my RL to tell everyone to let me solo orbs and to focus on boss dmg

[umbral badger]

enough passive gold income to never need ot farm

[dire hinge]

enchanting is great because if you make 30 alts you get a lot of concentration to pull from

or 50...

[rose ibex]

That sounds good but not the most sustainable

[rare kite]

yea... no time to do all the cleaves+demo

[umbral badger]

but that's nto what we want to do xd we want to get gold without anything xd

[minor gust]

Yeah once they started learning it was hard to get 2 cleaves off after demo

[dire hinge]

hear me out

[umbral badger]

yes but you only need ot make enough gold to sustain your self which's been the case for enchanting and tailoring from the start of WoW "at least for the most part"

[slender sonnet]

wat

[rose ibex]

Oh god

[dire hinge]

earthen leveling was crazy fast during Winds of Wisdom

like a few hours tops

[umbral badger]

so you do your delves, your preys, you do your concetrations, you DE any gear you throw away or get in m+ and you sustain your self forlife when you even add the cloth dropped.

[atomic hedge]

if u got luck with proccs as slayer, u wanna pop bladestorm outside of reck?

[olive nest]

Yeah bro I hear that I’ll just never get a good overall log on this team because so many of us want to add pad and they’re all wicked good at it or maybe I’m just an old slow ass dude xdd

[jagged fable]

When you guys do myth dragons, is your add stack a bit off of the dragons? Way my guild does it, can't hit both dragons and the orbs w cleave. I feel like that's probably scuffed?

[dire hinge]

sir this is the Arms channel, Reck is a fury ability

[rose ibex]

Ugh I guess i gotta do those things. Tbh I was meaning to farm prey just for the tmogs and mount at the end

I love my magical flying wyrm

[olive nest]

Our mass grips were almost dead nuts in the middle of the two dragons hitboxes, so we just cleaved off dragons and gg

[dire hinge]

honestly the second easiest thing is doing "shuffles". The profit margin has plumetted pretty hard recently, but the ideas is:
Engineer (or Tailoring) buys raw mats, makes blues -> you disenchant the blues and sell/use the mats. Can do it all on one toon.

[umbral badger]

@safe vigil if you are still around , i am confused about something critcakes does and i saw you do in your videos but wowhead is saying the opposite :p you guys always open with Bladestorm not cleaves ? cuz i've been doing my cleaves first which did not yield same result as you both are

[jagged fable]

Thx, we doin reclear this week. Figured would do colossus instead of slayer this time. But it's sad to not be able to hit everything w/ cds

[umbral badger]

i mean eventually you drop all those things anyway and still sustain. but then again, as long as i am doing things i want to do and gaining gold out of it i am happy.

[summer niche]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1485241806609453097/1491525092369371368/arms.gif

[nova marsh]

Ive been lazy with prey

I need champ crests itd be such easy ilvl for both toons

[olive nest]

I positioned in a way where the usual mass grips point was between me and dragon I was targeting and cleave is a 180 frontal cone so you can hit both dragons too if you just aim well enough

It won’t always be perfect world because you are highly dependent on how other people do things as well but just learn your team and adapt positioning

[jagged fable]

Ours is probably like 10ft or so out from dragons but will give it another go tn. Their hit box maybe wide enough

[minor gust]

In case he doesn't answer. It's a minor increase to cleave before BS. Really isn't gonna be something you notice a difference on

[unreal river]

is colossus still gonna own the overall m+ dmg after the nerf?

[olive nest]

And that’s because of ID stacks right?

[nova marsh]

What nerf

[umbral badger]

it's just that Critcakes seems to use 2 bladestorms in one pull cuz of it

which is never the case for me

[olive nest]

Isn’t he running 19s? The pack lives a lot longer

[unreal river]

you will have only 2 cleaves instead of 3

[minor gust]

Idk what keys you are doing but higher you go the more BS and CS you are gonna get in a pack

[umbral badger]

when i saw it was a 17 but yea i am going to go a bit more nad more now

[nova marsh]

Oh we'll be fine

[minor gust]

Nah cleaves and reap just fucks

BS doesn't fuck as much

[umbral badger]

i did not go abvoe 15s yet , i was too lazy tbh

[nova marsh]

Remeber

[minor gust]

There's your answer then

[nova marsh]

Colo gets more cdr next patch too

5 secs per stack

[minor gust]

Crit atleast when I tuned into his 19 pit for a bit he was also doing cleaves before BS

[umbral badger]

what nerf 😮

[minor gust]

Think he uploaded that key too

[olive nest]

I’m so ready to demolish every 20 seconds lmao

[unreal river]

idk i have not tried slayer in m+ yet

[umbral badger]

dunno in my case i can only judge by his video and biz where they did BS before using any cleave stacks

[minor gust]

Those nerfs are nothing Colo will still do big aoe

[umbral badger]

either way it's fine

[minor gust]

Indeed either way it doesn't matter the diff is very minor

Likely 12.05 tho BS will be better first

With that 20% buff

[umbral badger]

i mean it's not a nerf cuz you also get many more demolishs

i would give up 1 cleave to get 1 more demolish anyday

let alone getting more

[olive nest]

Yo Holup bad ass pfp bro pantera owns

Hope to see them at the returning oz fest

[dim basalt]

Col funnel will also go stonks

[olive nest]

It doubles with 2 extra targets by your prio target

You want adds on boss wherever possible

And a team who doesn’t start doing aoe because there are adds around

Which won’t happen in any pug

[rose ibex]

So
5 x delves
2 x caches
2 x prey
= 9 money rocks = 9 x ~2k = 18k a week

[kind stag]

i need more warrior gifs

i need to share propaganda

[olive nest]

https://tenor.com/view/guts-berserk-american-psycho-gif-23191099

[minor gust]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898720803586048/1042069193392136223/20221115_132954.gif

[olive nest]

Peak arms gif

[wind flicker]

Col funnel is huge actually

[minor gust]

It's not huge it's massive

[umbral badger]

yea and crystals are giga expensive "or were at least" so it was good

[minor gust]

Any funnel that doubles your dmg is crazy

[olive nest]

Iirc last I saw cone and walhe chatting about it they were saying the damage on your prio target goes from 60 -> 120 when you have 2 extra targets

😂

[kind stag]

guys does sim account for nexus point ring set bonus

[olive nest]

It would yes if you have both equipped as an iteration

[minor gust]

Pretty much can just open up a 3T sim and check prio dmg it's good

[kind stag]

cool

[olive nest]

like 3T 3min or something goofy

[marsh hamlet]

is slayer any different to colossus or feeling is the same?

[olive nest]

They play differently yeah but similar buttons and procs

[minor gust]

gonna depend on the person but the fact you press SD procs and not ignore it makes Slayer feel more fluid and enjoyable to play

[kind stag]

ty

[marsh hamlet]

is slayer more dynamic or similar?

[olive nest]

Like frozo said slayer presses SD much higher prio because of reap procs and bs cdr

[marsh hamlet]

gotta try it out

colossus is fun and all but seems clunky after playing a while

[olive nest]

Colo is setting up for a big aoe burst and then sorta wet noodling it until your big burst is back

[olive nest]

Slayer is praying for reap procs

[wind flicker]

ngl not proccing reaps on slayer is one of the worst feelings

[marsh hamlet]

yeah spamming cleave up to 10 stacks of cm and then demo

[wind flicker]

Rng in general is annoying to deal with in m+

[minor gust]

you either love it or hate it. I personally dont really mind RNG in M+

it all avgs out

[thick kelp]

Finland mentioned

[rose ibex]

Tbh it really isnt depending on how much you play

Like if you only have 1 character you're going to lose money constantly if you m+ and raid

You would need multiple alts with enchanting using this method with no intent to actually play them

[umbral badger]

at least for now , i am not.

[rose ibex]

High keys chugging flasks and other consumes + repair bills will cook you

Not saying it doesnt help. There just needs to be another side income

[olive nest]

Pretty much have to sell boosts to make efficienct gold for your time in WoW

[rose ibex]

Theres also the items you can DE from drops

[olive nest]

Or be good at goblin mode auction house

[jovial hare]

or be the loan shark of your guild

[olive nest]

Maybe have an army of crafter alts too?

Idk I don’t craft

[rose ibex]

Me either but crafters basically rake in free money once they are set up

Its a good system if you invest in it smartly

Shame engineering is absolutely useless for it haha

And I absolutely love it

And cannot drop it

[wind flicker]

Fair but can suck sometimes

[minor gust]

Indeed it does. Love doing my CC cleaves and not getting a single reap

[wind flicker]

I mean its better than that shit we had last expansion

WIth the tier set bs

season 2 set

[minor gust]

Im just happy slayer is playable

it was nonstop colo all of TWW

[wind flicker]

Ngl im happy with the way both are, but i hoped for a bit more fury potential

It seems to be going into the direction of arms all the way

[zenith dagger]

Fury was rlly fun last tier, we had to sacrifice it for arms

[minor gust]

If 12.05 goes live without any compensation buffs to thane would be crazy

[wind flicker]

Ngl thane looks hella dead

[minor gust]

Oh yeah from what Xan told me its dead

[twin hazel]

Whats the 2 handed weapon enchant we want?

[minor gust]

whichever one sims best for you

if you dont want to sim pick either crit or haste one and have fun

[mellow seal]

are they .05 chantes good i cant tell

[twin hazel]

OMG any answer other than SIM?

[minor gust]

read the second line

[formal vault]

guys can i ask a stupid question?

if i miss some priority what happen? i lose some kind of buff or what?

[twin hazel]

Acuity of the ren'dorei

[formal vault]

its way different arms then it was 3 years ago

[sacred zodiac]

arms is a cdr spec and not cdring properly will hit your damage a lot

[formal vault]

mhm a simple exemple?

lets say i press execute ( proc ) instead of mortal strike

what happen?

[minor gust]

you do less dmg?

nothing happens man its just a priority of spells

[formal vault]

no i mean i fuck it totally up

as proc etc?

o just that 1 style

[tawdry bear]

Depends on senario, if you are in a colossal window it hurts alot. That is a global missed on your window.

Just think of it like math.
Mortal strike is +3
Execute is +1
In a window of 3 global if yoj press execute. You get
3+1+3=8
But if you priority properly it is more like
3+2+3=9
It only hurts you in the end the math works out to smaller numbers.

[formal vault]

mhm

k lets make a exemple right now

if im hitting single target, my priority should always be mortal strike always?

or it depends on the situation for exemple procs?

[tawdry bear]

Depends on situation.

[formal vault]

because, sometimes i get alot of procs and sometimes i dont

[tawdry bear]

Also depends if slayer or colossal.

[formal vault]

slayer atm

[tawdry bear]

You can hold off a proc for mortal strike unless at 2 stacks of SD. Or at max stacks of the bladestorm buff.

If you watch the video posted earlier, biz does a great job explaining arms.

[formal vault]

mhm i will watch it, can u link it pls?

biz is super good from what i have seen

him and critcake very good players

and another one i dont remember the name, almost perfect rotation

im super rusty so im like shit

but well, it will be fun trying to improve

[tawdry bear]

This is the video. He does a great job explaining things.

[formal vault]

thx mate

[vast drum]

What is the difference between having (nodead) or (exist) in a macro?

Also is arms much different from S2 TWW havent played it since then

[tawdry bear]

I dont know about nodead but I use exist for focus target macro and mousover.

[umbral badger]

i mean arms in S2 TWW is so different than arms in S3 tww let alone in new expansion xd

[tawdry bear]

./cast [mouseover.exists] storm bolt; storm bolt.

[umbral badger]

at least if my memory is correct

[tawdry bear]

This says if I am hovering over a name plate it will stormbolt otherwise it will stormbolt my target.

[vast drum]

Yea I was just talking about it with one of my friends and she was very confused as her macros had nodead instead

[tawdry bear]

I also have charge and intervene on the same button.
./cast [mouseover.exists] intervene; Charge

This one saves me space on my keyboard.

[umbral badger]

damn, i guess ppl are excited for pvp with the buffs

tried it earlier, i felt like a feral druid xd

[lone raft]

these demolish cdr reductions cannot come soon enough, having 20 seconds left on. demo with CS up is straight tweaked

[wind hatch]

feels like a nerf to me

our burst gets nerfed meanwhile ww is untouched lol

[umbral badger]

nah the bleed is going crazy it's stupidly op now

like even when you are kited you are doing dmg

[wind hatch]

yeah but it just feels hard to close out kills

ive been playing 2s though its probably better in 3s with another dps

[umbral badger]

i only tried one match basically so i can't say i have a good sample but in that one match everything was dying fast

even dk pets were melting from random bleeds application

[mellow seal]

feels a little bad taking mythic heart over herioc plume it just doesent seem to scale well in aoe

i hate puzzlebox i may jst use the cruc trinket hehe

[rose ibex]

Puzzlebox is a trap

[slow saddle]

Crap

[rose ibex]

It belong in the trash

Set on fire

[slow saddle]

2 sec cast time can die

If u ever wann use mid pulm

Its cursed. If it aligns up prepull is ok

But if u wait using it. Value drops soooo

[viscid fossil]

box only for high skill high iq gamers

[rose ibex]

Its only for showing off your big fat dps meter on agalthar tree room pulls

[slow saddle]

This

Well hmm for arms col its prob not to bad

But for slayer no

[rose ibex]

I just hate it

Always hated it

[slow saddle]

I use 2 passives

[rose ibex]

Also I hate agalthar

[viscid fossil]

damn 2 months full of hate

[slow saddle]

Just get gaze

[rose ibex]

The only dungeon I hate more than agalthar is necrotic wake

[dire hinge]

Can’t wait for DoS to get updated. That ardenweadle wing had huge pulls

[proven veldt]

methinks people are not going to enjoy revisiting a 45 minute dungeon

even if it features really good bwonsamdi voice lines

[tawdry river]

little question: during collateral damage, which increases cleave and ww for 75% after 3 stacks, is it ok to use ST only with 3 stacks?

[olive nest]

Are you trying to ask if it’s okay to use cleave/WW in ST if you have 3 stacks of Collateral damage?