arms

[kindred breach]

0.75% on the first rank i think and 1.25% on second

game will round so it displays 1% for both enchants

[wispy drum]

yeah thought as much, ty

[scarlet garnet]

how much crit am i supposed to have

[boreal remnant]

[brittle forge]

why is arms suddenly popping off? Was there bug fixes or anything?

[cyan skiff]

Single target - execute was buffed a bit, Aoe = arms was always good. Bad stigma

[scarlet garnet]

Brother that’s not what I asked

[vagrant aspen]

shoot for 100% crit

[boreal remnant]

brother it literally is

how would any of us know how much crit your character wants

sim yourself

[rapid bronze]

I think he's just asking if there's a decent breakpoint to aim for

[boreal remnant]

which again

[floral tide]

How do you properly sim for that?

[boreal remnant]

sim takes stat breakpoints into account

breakpoints don't really exist anymore as they used to

[scarlet garnet]

I just wanna know how much people are running hahaha

Simmer lad

[azure basalt]

So for slayer is rend really important to keep both one Aoe and ST ? What about heroic strike on MT? MS > SD procs ?

[boreal remnant]

they're running however much their sim tells them to run

that's just the answer you're going to get

[misty bridge]

you use HS with FOB when you press Cleave

[azure basalt]

Ohhh okey

[scarlet garnet]

Yeah but how much is that

Cmon now seen I want numeric values

[misty bridge]

it's different for each player

[dim basalt]

wdym "suddenly"

[floral tide]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/w8Z8p3rKUbpnvq5yFQcQab

Ok so (in slayer m+ talents)

What does this really tell me?

[brittle forge]

idk, the spec that was literally last on murlok io and is now 10th surely didnt suddenly pop off

[boreal remnant]

man, you're really pulling my arm here. If I had to give a number, I'd say somewhere between 0 and 100%

[rapid bronze]

we got good ST buffs and our aoe was already very good

[dim basalt]

Everyone who cared enough to research knew that the only problem is/was ST and aoe has always been very good

[brittle forge]

I see

[brittle forge]

I really dont give a damn about other underperforming classes, now that he is performing, I care

[azure basalt]

So for MT I just Prio syncing Avatar/Colossus/BladeStorm, Prio Cleave, MS when it's up and overpower when I have nothing else ? What about exexecute with/without procs ? Does it have Prio over MS and Cleave on MT ?

[rapid bronze]

mind it was like 3 pretty substantial buffs lol

[brittle forge]

yeah I saw, crazy work

[scarlet garnet]

You’re pulling my arm, like obviously I’ve simmed my shit, but I still feel like I’m down on the crit.

[brittle forge]

blizzard actually buffing whats needed

[scarlet garnet]

Thanks for the advice though really helpful

[thorn stream]

100%

[dim basalt]

Dunno if Id call them substantial but they helped a bit

[boreal remnant]

if you've simmed your character then you know how much crit you should have

[dim basalt]

Arms ST is still very ass

[rapid bronze]

one suggestion is, try simming the same gear but replacing the gems with crit gems and see what that nets you to get a sense of whether you need more crit or not

[boreal remnant]

just because it's not the answer you wanted to hear doesn't mean it's not the right one

[rapid bronze]

we had 6-7% ST buff before the 20% execute buff last reset, that's pretty substantial

[untold pewter]

Dude I was just chatting in my guild that

It's a crime they didn't give us a remornia mog

Maybe in shadowlands remix

[slow saddle]

facts

[slow saddle]

issue is we are still so far behind

specs laugh

[thorn stream]

wowhead post is also missleading

[slow saddle]

we need another 10k dps

to be fury

[untold pewter]

And fury isn't even "super hot" for ST

[slow saddle]

IKR

Furys st is what mid at best?

[thorn stream]

we are top third on damage to bosses there

[slow saddle]

i mean on which ones 😄

remove the 1 boss where we play a MEME M+ fob build

i mean ofc it matters

but like, doesnt help our sad St

[thorn stream]

thats what i mean

[slow saddle]

Heck give me 10k ST in Slayerstrikes / AA

[thorn stream]

with "missleading"

[slow saddle]

also my brain cant read

^_^

i reread it now.

yeah super misleading 😄

but also raid is just fuck all fun as melee

[dim basalt]

Fury ST is horrondous

[slow saddle]

yes but arms has worse

😄

[dim basalt]

Like bottom third

[slow saddle]

yup. meanwhile actually having higher st, its just they send more into pad

[thorn stream]

our damage to bosses is inflated by a 3 boss fight

[tepid citrus]

ILVL scaling. Arms does it well. You can see a massive improvement with the more ILVL and main stat ARMS get.

[dim basalt]

Thats just false lol

[tepid citrus]

WHatever you say expert.

[slow saddle]

haha

orckbolg just move along

Reason why arms pops off is cleave is overtuned

and all the modifiers to it

as well as fervor

in Raid arms does not pop off at all

it more ducks off on bench

[tepid citrus]

Seems like skill issue

good luck

[slow saddle]

i mean show me any sense

[thick kelp]

Classic donkey brain

[slow saddle]

where u pop off as arms 😄

[dim basalt]

Dont feed the troll

[slow saddle]

in raid

nana im curious 😄 do u have a scenario, where u actually help the raid

exept the 5% AP 😄

im only warrior so here i am

[sharp goblet]

bshout if u don't have prot hahah

[slow saddle]

Rally is also not to bad tbh

like i WOULD KILL for ret range

or dk rang

e

[sharp goblet]

but really warr does nothing

[thorn stream]

shout bot

[slow saddle]

yeah, coz its undertuned

[sharp goblet]

survives, does a bit of dmg

[slow saddle]

keep in mind if fury had the same "sims" as Ret

[sharp goblet]

but like minimal utility

[slow saddle]

and so did arms

we would POP off AF

imagine if collosus was within 3% of slayer in raid

like how much we could just funnel and slap shit when it came up

[sharp goblet]

ret has more utility and immunity tho

[tepid citrus]

Breathe. You debating utility now? I was talking about dps. But please.. Continue to spam rage. lol gg man

[sharp goblet]

immunities seem very important

[slow saddle]

i mean Range also 😄

but yeah Dmg wise

[sharp goblet]

yeah true

[slow saddle]

we are like 15-20k sim behind pala

[sharp goblet]

fake melee specs

[slow saddle]

and they Burst

[sharp goblet]

like someone said

UH and Ret

[slow saddle]

and can maintain it

uh has grip

grip seems like the best thing since they complained about no raid cd

[sharp goblet]

and ams and amz

[slow saddle]

range interrupt

12sec

[sharp goblet]

but I mean multiple specs aren't really getting played in raid

it's fine

not warr dps tier

m+ is very fun on warr

[slow saddle]

Which?

That are in as bad a state? 🤣

Enhance mby y

Man st tuning just feels pretty bad

I will say fury's thane vs slayer well tuned

[sharp goblet]

arcane (only a little bit), fire, rogue specs that are not sub, frost? not sure, but I feel like if we look at # of parses, arms should be ahead of all of those

and fury should be top third

[slow saddle]

Class

If fury was great id eat it

Arcane has frost

[sharp goblet]

what? I said specs, and fury is decently represented idk

[slow saddle]

Coz it has a lot of players

It just isnt good esp later bosses

[sharp goblet]

idk man, it's just like crown, midnight and chim that kind of suck for warr i guess

otherwise I'd say it's doing fine

[slow saddle]

Last 2

[sharp goblet]

which does suck since they are the 3 last bosses

hahahah

[slow saddle]

Lura + birdie

I mean. 2nd boss

Bringin a dk is a lot better

Or ret tbh

We talkin prog not reclears

Reclear who cares

[strong pine]

Problem on warri i feel like is u have to decide to either pad well and good get numbers which obv are inflated or u get mid ST dmg 😅
Numbers look good on warri due to first bosses pads just feels like it
On vorasius and saladin iam nowhere near other classes and struggle to keep up aton....

[slow saddle]

Ofc

[strong pine]

On pull with BL im happy if im towards 8-9th place....
Usually 12-14 bc other classes just well burst so much better

We have consistent smg in Fury with low cds but nothing overwhelming

[slow saddle]

Saladin mby if orbs always close and u get to sweep

[strong pine]

For M+ it feels amazing but outside its just ass and inflated numbers sure as hell dont help it

[slow saddle]

But id u play with any greedy fucks u dont c ghem baømd

[strong pine]

I try to pad so log parses look better but in Myth with everyone on it well u can imagine 😂
On HC it works well 🤣
I dunno yesterday on guild myth raid i was fairly dissapointed in ST Warri on vorasius and saladin 🫠
I like warri but it def could use a ST buff 🫠

Arms i havtn played much yet Started with it yesterday in M+ and in +14 its suuuuper fun 😂 adds get deleted

[azure basalt]

So arms / fury vs ret who's better ?

[slow saddle]

Y fob + cleave makes arms a prio monster

Ret in raid

M+ they compliment arms

A lot

[azure basalt]

I was thinking of leveling a ret for m'y alt, but idk it's either ret or frost mage

[slow saddle]

For m+

Id say mage

[rustic jolt]

And for raid mage aswell xd

[azure basalt]

I prefer melee

Frost gameplay is boring to me

[slow saddle]

Then ret also wrong

Ret aint melee

[azure basalt]

I know but still

[slow saddle]

U asked for stronger

[azure basalt]

But ST and MT is better as a ret compared to war ?

[slow saddle]

St y

[azure basalt]

Not even couting the utilities

[slow saddle]

Muti hmm arms is pretty goof

[azure basalt]

How much more than a ret ? A lot more ?

[slow saddle]

Post12.5

Ret

[slow saddle]

Thing is

U can play collosus

And do alot but then ya st is dog

Slayer arms vs ret.. hm actually not certain i think pretty. Even

[azure basalt]

Yeah that's what I thought and I dont like the ability demolish at all

[slow saddle]

Slayers arms is pretty good atm

[alpine cove]

hi! is there any cap to stats?

[thick kelp]

no

[slow saddle]

Arms st buff when?

• when better rage economy

[thick kelp]

Probably some tuning on friday latest

for nxt reset now that rwf is over

[remote forge]

TBF we need ST tuning in colossus and better MT in raid ST Slayer build

those are more problematic

[slow saddle]

Slayer st also dog m8

But buffin op 30%

Or dreadnaught 30%

[shy dew]

i miss so much dreadnaught and deep wounds

[slow saddle]

Yuo

We need dreadnaught in raid 2 be steronf

[remote forge]

Its not dog, lower of end middle pack, or best of lower 1/3

[slow saddle]

93k

Is dog m8

[remote forge]

but ya it doesn't feel good at all. We need a new vision of this class

[slow saddle]

We aew 10% behind just fury, and for that 2 happy god tier procs

[shy dew]

logged in 12.0.5 and felt colossus a bit weaker

like without 1 cleave in crushing combo

[slow saddle]

Rly? U should get demo a lot

Just prio ms fastet

R

[fresh spire]

More tuning will.come for 0.5

We lost cleave but the extra demolish casts cover that damage easily with deep wounds aswell

[naive crescent]

where the frick is my vault

[neat reef]

how are people tracking heroic strike in the standard bliz ui?

[fresh spire]

Looking at my slam button

[shy dew]

i see, didnt thought about demolish coming back more earlier with new talent

[neat reef]

i have my bars hidden, just using the cooldown manager

[marsh ravine]

make them visible

[thick kelp]

track slam on cooldown manager

[safe jay]

i use Tellmewhen

with a reactive condition

wait i missed the standard bliz ui part my bad

[neat reef]

lol yeah good point haha

[vapid spire]

Any of you struggling to connect ^

[pulsar frost]

ye servers having issues currently, i logged in looked at vault then now cant get in

[vapid spire]

They're bringing servers offline

[patent granite]

isnt it maintenance

[vapid spire]

It was supposed to be over 18 mins ago, but servers came back online with some issues

[nova marsh]

aw cmon man

I just wonna see my warr vault since rogue w3as kinda poopie

[vapid spire]

Samesies

[nova marsh]

I mean

+20 ilvls to shoulders isn't that poopy, but the stats kinda are

[vapid spire]

But while trying to log in, i saw a bunch of servers go offline

[wicked goblet]

CDM tracks slam and other abilities. Slam turns into HS on proc

[slow token]

same, server offline or character not found

[wooden tide]

F no twohanders exist so i can go arms

[leaden garnet]

Either the tooltip isn't updated, or the patch didn't go live

[nova marsh]

.... duhhh .5 wasn't announced for today

and I don't think arms was in line for tuning this week lol

[leaden garnet]

I assumed since they've already patched arms ~3 times this xpac that the pending changes would go through this reset

Colossus is still god awful for ST, I guess

[vapid spire]

There's 2 arms warriors in top 100 amongst the 30 frost mage and 45 devourer, we dont need buffs apparently

[fresh spire]

Biz and crit?

[tight wing]

I wish I didn't get to see my vault -_-

it's so bad

[radiant sonnet]

If i did lvl 9 key i still get mythic item in voult right ?

[paper tendon]

heroic gaze trinket or guarantee 4 set...

[tight wing]

no, 10+

[nova marsh]

Broooo I just wonna see my warrior's vault

[manic pasture]

sadge

[nova marsh]

Can't win em all

Shame stormrage is omega fucked atm

[tight wing]

it this any good? at all?

[thick kelp]

nop

[tight wing]

tokens it is then

[nova marsh]

Man I feel bad for you guys.

[floral tide]

Sim it

[nova marsh]

All I got was a straight upgrade

[halcyon void]

hi guys, which websites do guilds use for recruitment in 2026

[nova marsh]

Guilds of wow is always an okay place to start

A lot of guilds also recruit in certian discords, so those are worth seeking out as well (mods will not approve of me plugging them here but they are on wowhead's page)

[halcyon void]

okay will check out, thank you

[icy mulch]

hopefully that's not your only choice

[hushed pine]

This vault's stacked but I don't know if I should take plume or those boots

Boots are massive upgrade

[icy mulch]

it's annoying to use and very underwhelming

[tight wing]

It gave me things I already had in every other slot lolol

[icy mulch]

Oof

So it's a click to use which you then have to aim and click the item on the ground.

[inland robin]

Did you guys know that if you attack as a warrior you can do dmg

[copper swan]

trinket

[tight wing]

or a gem slot

[icy mulch]

or a gem slot, lol.

[copper swan]

you can can boots in prey, delves, m+, raid

[spring vale]

plume is nice, you just equip it and forget about it while reaping all the benefits

[hushed pine]

Yeah I'm honestly leaning towards trinket

[nova marsh]

I'd uhhh

I'd do the weekly first or do raid

[copper swan]

if you reached the ultimate power of being patient

[hushed pine]

Shit you're right

[dim basalt]

boots angle imo

[copper swan]

pick you wault before next reset

[spring vale]

instant gratification vault goes crazy though

[copper swan]

i'm Eu and still didn't pikc it xd

[spring vale]

sameee

[tame trout]

Cant log into specifically my warrior, getting "Character not found" error. So ILL NEVER KNOW WHAT MY VAULT IS

[nova marsh]

Yeah servers are kinda fucked rn

[hushed pine]

Already picked plume. Best case scenario I get Gaze or another gear upgrade from weekly quest

[spring vale]

tomorrow i get enough crests to craft my myth weapon once we get EU reset and I'll try for KSM during the week :)

[nova marsh]

Stormrage seems dead. I was gonna transfer my warr back to my main server but wow said no lmao

[tight wing]

log in to another character first

[hushed pine]

or another pair of hero shoulders

[tame trout]

I've got my vault on three other toons lol

[nova marsh]

Or do what I'm doing and play another character first

well we wait for blizzard to unshit the servers

[spring vale]

ty na bros for beta testing each reset so that we eu gamers can have a smooth wednesday

[tight wing]

12 years later is it done yet?

[copper swan]

i can pick a myth track Saron belt but i'm gonna pick the paladin set boots for mog potential

unless

[nova marsh]

Dumb question

Does anything in current season increase the chance of nelf flips?

[tight wing]

maybe

[copper swan]

we can impact that ?

[tight wing]

theres an engineering Item

[nova marsh]

You could with the ring from the slots boss in LOU

[tight wing]

called the shiny key chain(?) that gives +1 luck

[soft relic]

BRO, myth ring, or hero gaze (have champ gaze currently, but no guarentee i upgrade it to hero through raid) sims say ring, gut says gaze, insight brothers?

[nova marsh]

oh fr it's the sparkle on my dagger? neat

[tight wing]

it's an embelishment though so

[graceful light]

Anyone here pug first few mythic bosses? I usually do every tier, I’m not in a raiding guild, but haven’t tried for this tier yet

[nova marsh]

No it's the item that removes embellishemnets

[dusty dagger]

why doesn't javelineer buff ravager damage

feels like it should

[tight wing]

oh is it? I didn't really pay much attention to it after first craft lol

[copper swan]

what is the event this week ? midnight dj ? so hero cache potential hmm

[nova marsh]

I only know cuz I had to take void off of my rogue's dagger

and I literally cannot log into my warr rn

[vapid spire]

Someone said he wasnt getting any weapon from vault ? 😂

[timid elk]

"character not found" reeee

[nova marsh]

Man get out of here with your 20% evrey stat and 100% luck

[odd cedar]

which subtree is the best for each type of content? i dont see consistency between top players and wowhead guide. also is fury better for raids?

[limber apex]

Arms is better for everything

[nova marsh]

Both are good rn. But slayer is more consistent and less tank reliant, so it's much easier to play in pugs

[vapid spire]

"Tears ahead" Yeah there's a good change

[tight wing]

LOL

[nova marsh]

I mean I already know mine are tears ahead

[vapid spire]

The other sign was "treasure ahead"

[exotic horizon]

Guys i start playing arms and i still not geting the feeling on how to maximize my buffs when they unsync . is there a detail roll for each case when to use and when to save

[rapid bronze]

kroluk's warbanner is crap right?

[half lichen]

You use colossal smash on CD and the rest only when CS is up @exotic horizon

[exotic horizon]

ok Got it

[tight wing]

rude

[lone raft]

depends on the sim, for my ST it’s a buff and on AoE my sim ways to take drums of Loa… but yes compared to any raid trinket it sucks

[rapid bronze]

yeah I have solarflare and ancient heart on max hero, it's either myth kroluk or myth gloves that I can catalyze

[lone raft]

didn’t kno u could cata trinkets

[rapid bronze]

myth gloves I can catalyze or myth kroluk

should've ordered it better

[lone raft]

yea u gotta just do gear compare

ah i see

I think a big issue with arms at least for colo is how we don’t press execute unless we get sudden death

My friend was shocked how I wasn’t pressing it over other abilities in the execute phase

[cunning wind]

Is puzzle box good on Arms? For some reason it seems to sim lower than Heart of Wind and other trinks for me. Yet all the guides say it is super broken

[olive nest]

Yes it’s good it just doesn’t align very well and 2 minutes trinkets with a 2 second cast as a warrior kind of sucks

[tight wing]

it's good but it sucks to use

[olive nest]

I’m currently using a 289 puzzle box

It’s not horrible but you’d rather have guidon as arms

[rose ibex]

Prolly good for ultra massive pulls

[cunning wind]

When I simmed this Heart of Wind seemed to be best with guidon being close behind

[lone raft]

puzzle is more about timing the cast before pull

idk if sim accounts for that

[olive nest]

Sims do not give a perfect picture

[lone raft]

or it starts encounter and use during it obviously

[olive nest]

For example, It doesn’t know that 800 mastery cast right before a 200% damage amp is going to be omega value

[half lichen]

Its 7th bis for single target, I believe

So its solid but not what youre really after

4th bis multi targ

[cunning wind]

What would you guys take out of the trinkets in my vault out of curiosity? Currently rocking hero solarflare and a veteran Ancient hunger

[tight wing]

heart here or plume, but I think heart would be better overall

[gloomy dawn]

How us slayer arms doing now compared to thane

[half lichen]

I would take puzzle box.

Mythic puzzle box is gonna be great all season if yoi never replace it, Heart of wind is worse in both single and multi target, plume is just too low ilvl for me to take.

[tight wing]

but puzzle sucks to use

so so so much

[lone raft]

something you get better with time

for AoE u will know when the big packs are

for boss fights you can time a go in between a mechanic

[tight wing]

not with the tanks I run with xD

[lone raft]

lul

[nova marsh]

Bro I can't

Why do I keep trying to do keys before I eat

I am literally trolling myself

[crimson furnace]

I have a question about 2 trinkets one is heroic heart (266 ilvl) the other is mythic Puzzlebox (272 ilvl) I know you'll probably tell me to sim myself but can someone link me where I go to Sim myself

[half lichen]

Puzzlebox is better.

[quaint snow]

top gear raidbots

[half lichen]

Assuming you mean heart of wind

[stable fiber]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/topgear

[tight wing]

only if you never pug

[crimson furnace]

Ancient Hunger

[crimson furnace]

Yhank you!

[stable fiber]

click how to install and use the simc addon

you need a addon ingame

make sure to be in your st talents

[half lichen]

Mythic puzzle is likely better but yeah sim, also heroic heart is just easy enough to obtain by comparison. But yeah

[twin hazel]

anyone using Glorious Crusader's Keepsake?

[manic pasture]

why dont people use Draught of Rampant Abandon

[wind hatch]

because it's really annoying

[spring vale]

the downside can be pretty annoying

[manic pasture]

what does the side effect do I popped it 5 times and nothing happend

[spring vale]

there's a grace period when the puddle spawns but it silences you while you're standing in it

[manic pasture]

Does it pacify or just silence?

becase I just swing sword

ez

[crimson furnace]

Yea it was by a mile hah

[lone raft]

U need to download the simc addon for midnight

you go to ur bank with all tabs open and bags open, and do /simc

then go to gear compare and select the trinkets you want to compare

and it should go through all your gear but remember for AoE u need to sim patchwork 5 target

but as we said puzzle prob is more flat damage and the sim that is accounting for a 2 second dps loss for casting it during the fight versus on opener

[dire hinge]

gm arms nerds, i hope your vault had goodies in it

[nova marsh]

Id love to know hroth

But stormrage is down

[dire hinge]

oh rip, game unstable?

[olive nest]

You too my good sir 🤝

[nova marsh]

Ye

[sacred zodiac]

hello man of many shapes

have you achieved your final shape yet?

https://tenor.com/view/verity-destiny-2-destiny-shape-final-shape-gif-14037421674520226893

[nova marsh]

Is that a destiny 2 reference

[dire hinge]

im slowly becoming a two-sided curve from CS:S surf maps

[sacred zodiac]

excellent shape

[nova marsh]

Hroth must preserve the curve

[dire hinge]

gotta stay ahead of it

[sacred zodiac]

does the gif of the exact expansion of the exact encounter that the expansion is known for give it away

[wind flicker]

@hexed saddle How was ur blasting on arms earlier on stream

[nova marsh]

I know literally jack about d2

Besides hearing about it in news

[torn rivet]

lads just wanna make sure: cleave in aoe autoslamming consumes heroic strike correct?

[oblique cosmos]

I have already crafted a two handed weapon. can i craft wrist also now? or tomorrows

[wind flicker]

Yes

[nova marsh]

Did you do the lorethemar quest

[wind flicker]

=3 targets

[torn rivet]

chur bro

[nova marsh]

Should've been able to craft last week

[torn rivet]

[oblique cosmos]

really

lmao

[nova marsh]

Ye

[torn rivet]

No

we have 5 spark limit

how do you have 6?

[oblique cosmos]

https://giphy.com/gifs/Ra1bmpxpsppNC

[sacred zodiac]

EU is 6 NA is 7

[nova marsh]

Midnight world tour freebie isnt in the limit

[torn rivet]

w a t

Hoooly

https://tenor.com/view/real-gif-11459216359066836221

[oblique cosmos]

was looking at logs and i saw this guy hade weapon and wirst

[nova marsh]

If you cannot see it on loremthar talk to soridormi and skip the campign

For leveling

[torn rivet]

logging in to wrists

[oblique cosmos]

thanks!!

[torn rivet]

primal spore binding I assume lads?

[oblique cosmos]

arcanoweave no?

[thick kelp]

arcanoweave yes

[olive nest]

😆

[dire hinge]

oh good, 6 of my vault slots were conflicts with crafted slots, 1 was a downgrade, and 1 was an upgrade (phew!)

love a near-miss on the week 2 vault opening already

please blizz let me ban 2 gear slots from appearing in vault i beg of you

[latent moss]

surely i get heart from vorasius

or guidon

suuuurely

[dire hinge]

6 bracers, my liege?

(i hope you get heart tho <3)

[fervent cedar]

Woe, 6 rings with bad stats be upon ye

[vapid sable]

good ring for arms or nah? the other 2 slots are weapons

[dire hinge]

6 for the arms warriors, doomed to die 😂

[fervent cedar]

Especially with jewelry

[latent moss]

hope not

i got 263 socketed not sure im gonna be replacing those soon

[fervent cedar]

Simply buy a socket later

[nova marsh]

Not bad considering I got basically nothing done

*This character has literally no gear

[oblique cosmos]

2nd warrior?

[nova marsh]

No, first

I was orginally gonna do rogue dk this tier

then I realized I fucking hate DK

[leaden coral]

na ?

[nova marsh]

Yes

...I mean....EU dosen't have reset rn?

[rose ibex]

It could be worse. My friend got 3 cloaks in all his mythic+ slots

[rose ibex]

I did 1 prey and got a tier piece for my hunter :)

[nova marsh]

Nice

I just got 2pc from vault

First piece was a chest cuz tier chest had better stats

[maiden apex]

Do slayer not use rend in ST opener?

[slow saddle]

Token is fine need socket on crafted vracers

[dire hinge]

you can use it right after charge.
It's less important in single target though, which is why it's not listed in the guide. The math is goofy, but it's basically the same if you use it or dont (during the opener). You can re-apply it later.

[slow saddle]

Rend gives rage!!

So rend

That 5 rage might save u😂

[grim olive]

Wait what happened, arms is on the come up in m+ rathing, is it going to overtake fury ? lol

[limber apex]

after fury nerfs for sure

[grim olive]

Did I miss something, what fury nerf o.o

You mean ptr stuff ?

[dire hinge]

Basically arms has very few parses overall (almost 3x less than Fury in +12 and higher keys), but the people who do play arms currently have higher score than Fury does.

Both arms and fury can do the highest keys possible right now, but people are trying out Arms so we got slingshot into the "S tier" on the meta sites.

tier lists being tier lists like usual (derogatory)

just play what you like, both specs can do perfectly fine

[grim olive]

I hate regearing but I was sad to leave arms behind at the start of the expac. It actually flowed so well but was lacking damage

[dire hinge]

yeah we've seen like 8 buffs since then, and some interesting PTR changes coming down the pipes

we'll see how long it lasts haha

[grim olive]

2 minutes before ptr hits live "Actually cancel all these changes"

[dire hinge]

nothing is set in stone

[thick kelp]

I hope

the PTR changes are mostly GRIM

[dire hinge]

the Demo CDR thing is freaking wild

[thick kelp]

me when 20s cd on one global

[latent moss]

colo eating good

[thick kelp]

whoopsie doo

[latent moss]

i think

[minor gust]

Only change getting reverted is the demo cdr

[latent moss]

how does will of the necropolis work

does it apply to all damage events that drop u below 30%

[thick kelp]

if the hit takes you below

[latent moss]

or only if u are already below

[thick kelp]

it applies

[latent moss]

ok so its just mega broken

[thick kelp]

yeah

[latent moss]

its just 35% dr to all "oneshots"

[thick kelp]

hero class alo

[latent moss]

wait or does it only work for the part of the damage thats below 30%

like if u take 100 dmg and have 100 hp

u take full 70 dmg then will reduces the other 30

[thick kelp]

the whole attack

[latent moss]

gg

why is every dk class talent a defensive

xddddddd

[radiant sonnet]

Is there any like guide of arms rotation,single target multy target

[maiden apex]

https://tenor.com/view/calculation-math-hangover-allen-zach-galifianakis-gif-6219070

[violet whale]

https://www.wowhead.com/guide/classes/warrior/arms/rotation-cooldowns-pve-dps

[radiant sonnet]

Ty

[nova marsh]

sigh

Pulling myself out of hell is rough

[stable fiber]

10 magisters

wtf

slayer OWNS

[olive nest]

wtf!?

[stable fiber]

w/o shaman as well

LMAO

[slender sonnet]

can I get a tank that pulls like that

[rose ibex]

Hell yeah dude

[slender sonnet]

lmao

[olive nest]

Bro did you omega 5 pull the dungeon??

[lone raft]

the new buffs are live?

[stable fiber]

nah

that was just normal slayer

not buffed

[nova marsh]

Ye I got traded hero chest

Absoutlely MASSIVE upgrade over an adventurer one

[minor gust]

Welcome to the church of slayer

[nova marsh]

Hell ye I love me slayer

[olive nest]

That was aoe every pull including bosses

Ez

[nova marsh]

HOLY GAPPERS

[slender sonnet]

cant pull trash onto 2nd boss mt tho right?

rp doesn't start till trash dead

iirc

[olive nest]

I’m just yapping I have no clue how kha orbitted the dungeon

As slayer* arms

[slender sonnet]

ic ic

yeahthats super impressive

I wish I could get that hig

[minor gust]

Lots of procs and big pulls

[olive nest]

Omega pulls perma proccing sd

[minor gust]

I did almost 600k on a big pull as slayer last night in a 15 MT because I procced out of my mind

Lots of SD procs and reap procs on cleaves and MS

And you will slap

[rose ibex]

BIG gains. Warrior journey off to a good start

[stable fiber]

i did 1.2m burst on first boss

dragged hella mobs into it

[rose ibex]

I cannot even fathom how that's possible. How many packs is that?

[wind hatch]

I did like 190k overall on a 15 windrunner spire last night

timed that shit even with a frost mage that died almost every single pull

[olive nest]

wtf!?

Like the boss died with you at 1.2 or you peaked 1.2

Ain’t no way that wasn’t peak

Lmao

[minor gust]

2 it was just the little guys on the ramp + pack before 2 big guys before final boss

[olive nest]

I’m yappin

[stable fiber]

peaked 1.2

[rustic jolt]

Slayer?

[slender sonnet]

I just feel like my tank pulls giga small compared to others

[olive nest]

Wicked gamer mode active

[slender sonnet]

cause I've never been above 140k overall

[rustic jolt]

Love to hear that we can fuck collosus

Slayer all the way

[rose ibex]

Oh haha that makes sense

[minor gust]

It's been personal preference on what to play since M+ came out

[short spear]

will the changes to slayer make colossus better than it in st

[olive nest]

My best slayer overall is 160k but I only pug so I don’t get the mongo pulls and also no adds onto boss

[rose ibex]

Im always nervous about pulling aggro off tank as we bring those mobs up the ramp

I do not trust the bouncy shield to get all the aggro

[wind hatch]

one of the tanks I run with in my guild is an actual psychopath

[olive nest]

I’m converted, slayer feels real good to play

[wind hatch]

he does the biggest pulls of all time

[olive nest]

Yeah I pull like that when I tank too it’s more fun

[minor gust]

Gotta do the big pull dungeons like MT and pit

[olive nest]

Ye tru I should run more MT I think I did a 10 and then straight to 15 or something and that’s it lmao

[wind hatch]

slayer is still better although its kinda close now

[rose ibex]

Colossus changes look dope

Might play it more when that demolish buff drops

[olive nest]

Did 5 MTs total

Oh me when I lie..

[minor gust]

MT best dung of the season easily

[wind hatch]

sure hope they dont revert it

[olive nest]

I should go run MT more tbh

Gotta chase my 200k + image

[wind hatch]

tbh i might like spire more

[olive nest]

Goofy aahh

[minor gust]

Gotta play slayer while you still can

This might be the only time we will xD

[olive nest]

No doubt about it

Soon we’ll be perma demolishing

[wind hatch]

once .5 hits its joever

[nova marsh]

Slayer back to dea ?

[minor gust]

Just Colo might be much better than slayer

So the gap widens

[stable fiber]

ok i got windfury this dungeon

[minor gust]

Right like if ST evens out between the two and both Colo and slayer lose about the same aoe idk could make it harder to play slayer over colo

[minor gust]

Perfect now you can play the game sub 20% hp

Either way once 12.05 drops will require a lot of key testing between the two specs see if anything changes

Perfect world nothing changes and you can still just play what you want

[rose ibex]

Maisara is really growing on me

I used to be a big windrunner fan but that bird boss is annoying

Why are all bird bosses annoying

Why are all bird adjacent mobs and bosses annoying

[wind hatch]

second boss tho

i guess maisara has a 2t boss too

[maiden apex]

This. Bird bosses always annoy the crap outta me!

[wind hatch]

any 2t boss is absolute peak

except for ick and krick

[rose ibex]

Second boss feels fine tbh

[wind hatch]

fuck ick and krick

[wind hatch]

yeah i love the second boss

[rose ibex]

Dont get me started on agalthar tho

[wind hatch]

🤮

[rose ibex]

Bird boss, cant pull mobs into bosses, bad items (screw puzzlebox)

Annoying wind a-hole that serves as a speed bump

Only boss I like in that place is the tree one and it exceeds a super spicy pull that tanks love to brick your runs doing

[latent moss]

ask tanks what they think about bird bosses' tankbusters

[stable fiber]

bs rng is insane

i just had

a 18 second bs coodlwon

[latent moss]

xddddd

[stable fiber]

cajnt make this hsit up

[wind hatch]

sounds about right

if only I could have that type of rng

[stable fiber]

then my vorasius kill

was like 1:10

[rose ibex]

Almost makes me think pumping haste is bis to get more sd proc rolls

[kind stag]

idk if im wrong but i remember in tww, colossus had bit different stat prio with leaning a lot into mastery over haste instead (or was equal to it maybe), hows that nowadays?

since i guess colo was more about making sure it crits big instead of speeding it up

[minor gust]

Will get more like that as the expansion goes on and get more secondaries

[haughty bramble]

guys do you hold avatar and cs for ravager it seems to be on cd for a bit and the others are ready

[minor gust]

Never hold CS always hold ravager/ava for CS

[haughty bramble]

yea usually i get all cds on cd then 1 cs for free and then ava and cs allign again but ravager isnt

[minor gust]

That's just how it goes

[wind hatch]

just send whatever you have with cs

[haughty bramble]

oh okay and then ravager alone again when its up ? okay 🙂

[minor gust]

Never alone

[haughty bramble]

or ravager keep for next cs

got it

[minor gust]

Always with CS

[wind hatch]

👍

[haughty bramble]

ty guys

[minor gust]

Always pair ava/rav with a CS and every 3 min you will have everything together again

[haughty bramble]

oh okay got it

[spring vale]

Algethar bird boss is a piece of shit

[kind stag]

bird up

[rose ibex]

I hate that thing. Windrunner bird boss is also awful

Both have annoying raid damage

[dire hinge]

Windrunner bird is usually a tank/dps positioning problem

helps immensely to drag the bird to the edge of the room and have people drop puddles along the edge (keeps melee uptime), then drag it to the opposite side after intermission.

Tornadoes stick near where the puddles are, so dropping them near each other makes it infinitely cleaner

[split ocean]

Where there arms tuning changes pushed out with today’s reset?

[olive nest]

https://klipy.com/gifs/burying-dying-1

[minor gust]

There was none this week

[dire hinge]

i dont believe so, most the recent changes are on the PTR (for a future release)

[rose ibex]

I swear the puddles give off raid damage from further than their actual circle

[split ocean]

Ty

[quaint bloom]

At least now I don’t have to cry about my vault anymore. Holy dogshit

[olive nest]

bruh like really..

wheres the re roll button

[rose ibex]

Dragon games equipment right?

[olive nest]

I already have hero helm with socket so honestly im either taking socket and sittig on it or bracers

[dire hinge]

bracer and cape 🫗 (once again asking blizz to let us block 1-2 slots to avoid crafting conflicts)

[olive nest]

thing is I dont want to take bracers becuase thatll be my next craft

once i get wep

so really this vault is gg

[dire hinge]

socket week?

[olive nest]

Thinking so unfort

[spring vale]

this is insane tech will keep it in mind for when i go blood for my own keys

[minor gust]

do you already have a myth helm?

[olive nest]

no hero helm but with a socket, taking helm is also an option yes

long term pick

[minor gust]

nothing to complain about then

always grab a myth piece you need

[dire hinge]

yeah can't hurt, socket or helm both solid picks

neither gonna get replaced

[olive nest]

think I do helm, send the 4 upgrades into it and then send the other upgrade into myth shoulders in bags

ez

[minor gust]

got hero to myth legs in my vault this week ez pz

[lone raft]

brutal getting a mythic group sometimes, im 265 GS arms is there a reason why shamy groups won't take me for a 10

2500 rating

[nova marsh]

Because we've been slandered

[lone raft]

feel like I spend more time waiting in this game than playing

[nova marsh]

Also uhh

[minor gust]

welcome to pugging

[nova marsh]

welcome to pugging as warr

[minor gust]

thats just how it is

[spring vale]

time to fish for the voidstorm mount while waiting for keys, it takes around 16000 casts so get crackin

[lone raft]

pulling 200k on packs consistently

[nova marsh]

Yes but:
No Lust
No Brez
Favorite youtuber said arms was f tier at the start of the xpack

[spring vale]

tettles and petko public enemies no.1 and 2

[nova marsh]

man fuck tettles, ruining my keys i stgh

[spring vale]

its part of the boomie agenda

[last saddle]

if you killed myth lura woulda got good wep

[nova marsh]

Nerf boomies

[spring vale]

1 fewer warrior in keys is 1 more spot for boomie

[olive nest]

I know right xD

[lone raft]

yea that initial tier list really fucked us

[minor gust]

us? im chillin over here

[lone raft]

anyone in here have pull with those baguettes

[spring vale]

ya but you're mr forum man frozenbozo

influencer or whatever

[nova marsh]

Man

if Frozen is an influence, does that make Tomurus one too?

[minor gust]

No I am Mr I have 4 friends to play with a do keys with

[dire hinge]

become the tank you want to see in the world

and out-dps the pugs you bring with you

[nova marsh]

I refuse to be put in tank jail

[dire hinge]

it's not a bad place to be early on, just stay arms loot

slingshot me to all hero gear pretty quickly not waiting around in a queue

[nova marsh]

I just don't like tank classes

they feel boring

[dire hinge]

very true tbf

[stark pike]

My AOE feels great in m+ as arms colossus but my ST is legitimately trash

[nova marsh]

Yeah

[dire hinge]

yeah that's normal for Colossus

[nova marsh]

that's colo

[spring vale]

i dont like the ones where they're flooded with resources and spend them off the gcd like prot warrior or guardian

prot pally is fine, blood dk and veng dh are fun for me though

[nova marsh]

I just dislike tanking in general and it stresses me too much

[dire hinge]

tbh just macro Iron Fur into every single one of your builders as guardian and just turn your screen off while you press 1-4 in order

[nova marsh]

Hroth being based

[dire hinge]

been that way for like 4 years, it's silly

they keep nerfing it but it's the same thing every expansion

[spring vale]

i genuinely cant believe that it wasn't on the list of things for blizz to prune/address

the ironfur spam 💀

[nova marsh]

I mean

blizz clearly likes ironfur

[coral stirrup]

is it preferred to wait for avatar and bladestorm to line up their cds before popping them or should you pop them independently whenever you can?

[nova marsh]

Hold evreything for CS

[minor gust]

its just as dumb as the fact that Shield block and ignore pain are still 2 seperate buttons for prot

[coral stirrup]

ty

[dire hinge]

yeah two upkeep management spells feels a bit silly in Midnight while other specs have 1

[minor gust]

yeah its why I never enjoyed prot

I dont need 2 off gcd upkeep defensives

[dire hinge]

you can already have basically 100% uptime on shield block, that alone feels silly

[minor gust]

like its just so unneccessary

[mellow seal]

is 3 target st rotation or multi target rotation

[dire hinge]

Multi target

Arms works like this:

• 1 target = Single Target
• 2 target = Single Target + Sweeping Strikes
• 3(+) target = Multitarget

[mellow seal]

wowhead isent showing where herioc strike should be used in multi target (light council boss)

[tardy vine]

it should go out with cleave

[mellow seal]

oh fuck so i shouldent even be hitting it directly okay

[dire hinge]

When Cleave hits 3+ targets it triggers your talent called Fervor of Battle.
Fervor of Battle makes your Cleave auto-cast Slam.
Heroic Strike is just Slam with cool sunglasses on it

[mellow seal]

yeah now it all makes sense

[dire hinge]

it's affected by Sweeping Strikes too, so you get two Heroic Strikes and a Cleave all in one button press🎉

[rose ibex]

I find it get groups pretty often as arms for keys

Ez pz

S tier propaganda working

In raid though? They boot me after the first boss usually

[tawdry quail]

Anybody around ilvl 270-275ish?
I’d like to ask if u know what kinda DPS u pulling on the first big pull of Algetha Academy

[lone raft]

maybe they just don't want me for pit of saron then lmao

weapon hoarding

[dire hinge]

it entirely depends on your tank's ability to pull the whole room and kite correctly

my highest was like 400 or 500k

[rose ibex]

Im usually panicking trying to avoid circles while ret pallies are doing over 300-400k dps

[dire hinge]

yeah if your tank is making hairpin turns instead of just doing a slow, "follow-the-room's-edge" movment, you're gonna have a terrible time

idk why tanks do that

[rose ibex]

Well, lack of experience

My friend is a great tank but he doesnt really learn many new techniques because he only tanks

I had to look up how he was dying from that pull and basically say "keep moving cuz lashers apply a melee range stacking dot or something"

[mortal crag]

any defensive stance addon trackers?

atrocityUI doesnt show icon anymore iirc

[rose ibex]

Ive been considering taking up the mantle to give him a break

Prot war is the funnest tank by far

[dire hinge]

https://addons.wago.io/addons/defensive-stance-reminder

prot warrior pumps too

not as hard as brewmaster, but pretty strong still

[thin quail]

do you use cleave over overpower in 2 target?

[dire hinge]

no, just follow the single target rotation and keep sweeping strikes up for 2 target
Cleave doesn't do anything special until 3 target.

[reef prairie]

Your 2target rotation is the same as your st rotation

[tawdry quail]

What ilvl are u and which hero talent? Col or Slayer

[sand totem]

I cant do nearly as much damage when I get made to tank versus my bdk buddy.

But I seem way more survivable over him

[dire hinge]

at the time i was like 260 something, but im 273 now. And colossus wil have much larger overalls for AoE.
Slayer is strong and does more boss damage

[teal junco]

How could arms possibly do more damage than fury, there’s only 1 weapon?

[reef prairie]

Fury doesn't have any arms to hold them 😔

[dire hinge]

fury has more HP, but having two weapons doesn't mean more dps

[minor gust]

More power and control with 2 hands on one weapon

[tawdry quail]

https://tenor.com/view/knight-xbox-gaming-elder-scrolls-games-gif-27629886

Ask this guy

[dire hinge]

try writing a sentence using two pens lol

[teal junco]

Nah bro I was just trolling but that’s actually giga brain

[teal junco]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-lateralus-parabol-third-eye-tool-gif-16499016

Side note I’m gonna learn arms this week, does anyone else hate the new colossus smash icon, gonna make a macro hopefully the old icon is still there

[gaunt owl]

the icon didnt change in like forever

[thick kelp]

he hates the warbreaker icon

[dire hinge]

i've never tried, but i assumed you could just change it with a macro

time to log back in

[teal junco]

Excuse the horrific res image but this bad boy

[teal junco]

Please report back

[dire hinge]

yeah you definitely can

just make a macro with /cast Colossus Smash and when you go to pick the icon, just select the old CS icon from the list

i use LargerMacroIconSelection to help make it easier

[teal junco]

Sick

I’m back onboard now

[dire hinge]

works like dis

can do it for any ability really

@slender sonnet ok hear me out

[slender sonnet]

MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW MEOW

[rose ibex]

Fury feels like you are slapping things with pool noodles sometimes

Just really really fast

[daring jetty]

Is this fine for Slayer Arms or something lacking or used not enough

[minor gust]

[wraith nova]

If Im being carried through a +10 with 230 ilvl, am I likely to be the least useless on colossus or slayer?

[marsh needle]

im confused by this

i thought MS was always priority

my wowanalyzer is just telling me im not pressing overpower enough

[slow saddle]

So m8

Arms atm is horrid

[marsh needle]

and this too

[slow saddle]

Sub 90 rage = press op

[marsh needle]

i was sure HS had prio over overpower

[slow saddle]

Ofc

[marsh needle]

wth

[slow saddle]

Hs first bit

And op often after as it builds the dmg amp for ms anyways, and exe eats rahge

Danger is running dry so fast

[marsh needle]

no builds i have seen are playing that talent.

[slow saddle]

In raid yes?

In m+ things change

[tepid citrus]

Is there a Spell Reflect sheet out yet?

[nova marsh]

LMAFO

[hushed skiff]

generally slayer is easier to play around.

[marsh needle]

my build may just be cooked then lol

[nova marsh]

This shit is toxic

[daring jetty]

Agreed go for slayer.. especially Colossus is more effective in higher keys

[marsh needle]

almost everyone has swapped to slayer at all key levels now

critcake is playing slayer only in 18+

[dire hinge]

we are so back

[nova marsh]

Hroth has betrayed us

How dare

[wraith nova]

becuase mobs live longer, or because of scaling?

[hushed skiff]

with the coming nerfs to thane fury, i think a lot more people will be swapping to arms

[slender sonnet]

LET'S GOOOO

[daring jetty]

but colossus does more dmg doesnt it?

[nova marsh]

in aoe yes

[languid torrent]

eeh

[nova marsh]

In ST hell no

[hushed skiff]

larger pulls, mobs live longer for you to get stacks

[slow saddle]

If u can funnel col is mad

But if u cant slayer is just easier

[daring jetty]

For me its bnecause before you stack Might to do demolish its dead.. With Slayer you have more fun, more rage (atleast for me feels like it) and mainly with Slayer you have more single target DPS which is nice

[wraith nova]

Dont I kinda simulate that by being undergeared? 😉 haha. WEll alright, il stick to slayer

[slow saddle]

And does it almosy as well

[slow saddle]

Well

[wraith nova]

first delve, get trinket x2

just lovely

[slow saddle]

Slayer likes crit

[wraith nova]

jsut what I wanted

[slow saddle]

Collosus loves it

[marsh needle]

arms just likes crit in general

but we also like all stats lol

doesnt seem as important so far in midnight, simming weapon / ring recrafts to swap to crit from haste/mastery gear isnt as huge as it used to be

[minor gust]

always been the case for arms

[rose ibex]

Ngl feral is pretty fun

Bleed stuff which makes procs happen that reset your bite

Om nom nom nom

Also you can turn yourself in a pangolin or raptor if kitty cat aint your thing

[marsh needle]

yeah all stats have always been good but in TWW recrafting my ring to crit haste from haste/mastery was a much bigger increase lol

it may also be cuz its s1 and stats are squished

[nova marsh]

It's S1

Evreything is wack

[minor gust]

S1 will be the only time stats feel more focused, but it very quickly becomes arms is chilling with all stats

[dire hinge]

☝️ this is arms sir

that's my colosus smash and bladestorm

[nova marsh]

I don'

[dire hinge]

gonna turn my whole bar into flowers and sunshine

[daring jetty]

yes.. i encounter so many bugs in M+ its getting annoying.. Like in Nexus point we had an add that was unkillable and we had to drag it all the way to the end.

[fiery quest]

is it worth it

to replace my max craft two handed weapon for a myth track weapon

from vault

[dire hinge]

gotta sim it

[fiery quest]

okok

[dire hinge]

depends on which myth track weapon it is

[fiery quest]

its not the good one

its the haste, mastery one

[dire hinge]

I have a max crafted one and had a myth one in vault and it was like a 4% loss 😭

[fiery quest]

sorry

i mean

[dire hinge]

yeah probably a loss

[fiery quest]

crit mastery

[dire hinge]

if you plan on playing fury it's not a bad choice

ah, might be worth it

sim for sure

[oblique falcon]

I think this game wants me playing arms, every piece has crit/haste >.<

[fiery quest]

BRO

YOU GOT IT

WTF

[slender sonnet]

@dire hinge we are armsing

[surreal hull]

Does every activity have a chance to drop a catalyst charge once you have the achivement? I haven't gotten oen yet and i've had 4 set for like 2 resets now

[slender sonnet]

yeah

[surreal hull]

Unlucky smh they hate arms

[dire hinge]

yeah, i get most of mine from dungeons

had like 7 excess charges last week

just spam the crap out of things

[marsh needle]

i crafted loa worshippers band cuz it was a 6% increase for me at the time and i may just end up using it the whole season lol i think it’s slept on

[surreal hull]

I literally got in like 15 10+ in the last 2 days thats crazy unlucky lol

+10s**

[slender sonnet]

I've had like 5 in 60+ dungeons on warrior

[sand totem]

Lads I have vault conundrum.
I have the 285 crafted weapon. But i got a myth tier garfrosts from the vault.
Do i take the leap and open up an embellishment slot for later?

[nova marsh]

what other options

[marsh needle]

sim

[dire hinge]

the ring is decent by all means, it just doens't have mainstat, so early on in the season you can get more overall dps from other items. This changes if you have really bad rings, or really high cloak/bracer already

the difference between Hero rings and Myth rings isn't that big, so you can usually just go farm hero rings

[sand totem]

shoulders i can catalyze and a belt.

[marsh needle]

yeah i was just getting frustrated spam farming rings and had hero track already in all the other crafted slots

[nova marsh]

Sim but

always can recraft

[marsh needle]

i may end up replacing it eventually but i just followed my Droptimizer it was so far ahead of anything else

[sand totem]

shoulders are a larget ilvl upgrade, but i cant put a new embellishment on a piece for another week. So thats more what i'm worried about. I'm not sure how much heavy lifting the weapon embellishment is

[rose ibex]

But is there a toy to turn you into a cat? 🤔

Also, I stand by what I said. Feral fun

[nova marsh]

Also

Having 2 285 weapons for fury is great

If you play it as off spec

[rose ibex]

How?

[marsh needle]

I got myth track heart of ancient hunger in my vault, but it’s only me and 2 dks in raid so I’ll get it eventually

[rose ibex]

I jealous of the heart

[marsh needle]

other choices are helm and bracers but feelsbad to pass on it lol

[rose ibex]

I been hunting it and I just cannot roll well on it or anything in raid

[neon shale]

wtf do i do now if im trying to play arms

[dire hinge]

you sim 🎉

[neon shale]

perma stuck fury

?

[rose ibex]

Mythic set pants i think eh?

[dire hinge]

simmm itttt

[neon shale]

sy

easy*

[rose ibex]

I am already handcuffed to those awful mythic set hands

[slender sonnet]

Sim

yo

self

!

[neon shale]

Arms does take crit prio more

?

gotte be at least decent for arms

bout to sim though

[marsh needle]

We should have a bot that recognizes vault screenshots and the words “what should i take” that responds with a link to raidbots

[languid torrent]

did some simming, robot told me to basically swap everything to haste. god damn, slayer feels like an actual class with some good haste

[neon shale]

sometims its fun to go off the vibess

[fiery quest]

you was right to question

the myth weapon is worse

[stiff meadow]

anyone else unable to get 2 crafted off pieces to beat a crafted weap + off piece? even with a 289 weap from paladins

[storm pendant]

Will there be 293 in 12.0.5?

[slender sonnet]

real

[slender sonnet]

also real

[vivid linden]

Hey, my Prepot macro doesnt want to use Prepot whenever I use avatar - Can anyone have a potential fix for this?
#showtooltip Avatar
/use Fleeting Light's Potential
/use Light's Potential
/cast Avatar

[haughty jacinth]

raid bots sim suggesting a gaze trink hero track would be better than a mythic weapon but long term seems like the unwise choice

[nova marsh]

He shouldIt's one of our better trinkets from keys

[glacial pebble]

so is everyone just taking colossus in raid?

[marsh needle]

Try putting the potions after avatar?

[vivid linden]

He tried that at first

Can you link your macro?

[marsh needle]

Yea

[nova marsh]

For a character who has been 90 for like less then 24 hours

Damn good shit

[marsh needle]

#showtooltip
/Cast Avatar
/use Fleeting Potion of Recklessness
/use 14

[vivid linden]

ty

We'll try