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#arms
mortal crag
minor gust
it always did
magic canopy
so ive written it off forever
mortal crag
Always has been
thick kelp
always has showed for me
minor gust
been able to track HS with slam since beta
mortal crag
Bro is playing the last titan expac
magic canopy
idk man it just never tracked properly and early on slam wasnt even in the CDM
so i just wrote it off
if its in now dont need dookie macro
spec slow enough as is
pastel stirrup
how much of an increase is the tier set giving us on dps?
minor gust
0pc - 4pc is like 9 or 11%
strange basalt
in cleave/aoe situation do we prioritize heroic strike at all?
thick kelp
no
strange basalt
gotcha
im coming from fury
thinking about switching
arms seems more fun anyways
minor gust
Midnight fury is an L
kind stag
aw cmon
thick kelp
Slarms is an L
minor gust
Slarms is an L
thick kelp
kind stag
slayer fury is my fav warrior atm
minor gust
after an entire expansion of colo M+ I will accept and love this slayer break
strange basalt
slayer fury is my fav warrior atm
it is fun fs
minor gust
feels good to be free from demolish for now
strange basalt
i prefer fury because i dont have to nuke my ST to do Aoe
slayer arms
violet steeple
Slarms is an L
Slarms feels absolutely godawful and clunky can confirm
strange basalt
it still does good aoe
kind stag
good aoe, bad aoe, good, clunky, bad
minor gust
Slarms feels absolutely godawful and clunky can confirm
Clunky? its as smooth and straightforward as ever
violet steeple
It's like the dead opposite of last xpacs slarms
kind stag
ive heard so many different things about slarms
violet steeple
Fuckin 18 things light up at once it just feels wrong
dire venture
Geared what is everyones single target dps? I feel like Im not doing much.
minor gust
thats uh ur UI problem xD
violet steeple
I know it's simple in practice but it feels stupid and looks stupid, colo flows better imo
Demolish also feels arms-like idk
late yarrow
How to track sweeping strikes?
tender plaza
can't wait to colo spec into ST raid bosses
strange basalt
i think colo is def more clunky than slayer
minor gust
everyones got their own weird definition of clunky
lone raft
I agree, the cds not aligning is a big pain point for arms for me
slayer flows more smooth imo
kind stag
colo feels clunky to me, demolish feels good to press sure but cooldowns and how you need to watch certain buffs, bleeds and cd reductioins is just
lone raft
just proc dependent
violet steeple
Yeah it's just preferences
lone raft
I think slayer is fine how it is in terms of flow, Imm too noob to speak about how it should function and honestly cleave needs to be baseline for arms
lone raft
regardless of that, colo needs cds to line up better because it is why the tempo of fury feels nice
u always get reck and avatar together
icy atlas
Make it not reliant on Skyfury for smooth rage gen lol
kind stag
Make it not reliant on Skyfury for smooth rage gen lol
true
holy that feels bad
arms gotta jump through 20 hoops
meanwhile ret paladins smashing 3 buttons
cmon
lone raft
it just feels bad to have to wait those 10 more seconds but this new ptr patch if it goes live should address that
kind stag
can also make you blow it early at times, resulting in cd drift again
i dont think it changes much
kind stag
yeah rend shouldnt exist as a button anymore
tender plaza
didnt they remove or plan to remove the "cleave crit strikes apply rend" ?
icy atlas
Took it away in MoP, made MS apply it passively
minor gust
didnt they remove or plan to remove the "cleave crit strikes apply rend" ?
they are removing Deep wounds from cleave crits
lone raft
it’s like hey mortal strike is this big 2hander damge but don’t forget to do your spiny thing with your dagger to make sure they bleed
this fits 2handed warriior class fantasy perfectly, the designer is out of touch
icy atlas
Sometimes I can’t tell if I hit Rend. Almost no visual or audio feedback lol
restive ledge
Sometimes I can’t tell if I hit Rend. Almost no visual or audio feedback lol
just took that thing that lets thunderclap apply rend lmao
kind stag
just make a cool bleed that hits whenever you hit mortal strike and its ok everyone happy
honestly now that i remember how annoying rend is i think ill stick to fury for now teehee
whatya guys think about arms post this seasons tier bonus?
they defo gotta change the spec for next tier
lone raft
It’s really not that bad
and I think MS already does reapply rend on ur primary targt
but it should apply to all targets
kind stag
and I think MS already does reapply rend on ur primary targt
isnt it when enemy is execute range?
lone raft
they also are buffing the range by 2yds
and it’s uncapped aoe too
not sure I know something does
kind stag
yeah below 35% ms does rend too
blissful tree
how can i sim an execute phase? sim starts with boss hp at 35 %? is there an input?
mortal crag
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/6BEDSkjCobNQKNfoLcjBHS
tried to do a target dummy sim
but on actual dummies i do anywhere from 220 to 250k
huh
minor gust
because dummies in sims dont lose hp
dummies these days are stuck at 0 hp so ME cleaves are putting in work
tender plaza
so all in all, tldr, if one does wanna try arms if got bored of fury
slayer -> ST fights
colosus -> M+ and Vanguard
mortal crag
slayer can m+ too
tender plaza
oh ye
mortal crag
arguably better than colo
cuz its a giant ST gap
like, disgusting
my colo sims like barely 61k ST
my slayer sims like 76k
tender plaza
colo would fit if you got the other 1 or 2 dps in group ST focused or somehow strong
kind stag
slayer arms im ok with but collo feels disconnected to me
icy atlas
Tank would have to pull adds onto bosses for Colossus to not feel like griefing
kind stag
demolish is a fun button but aligning stuff and managing 3 different buffs together with rend doesnt feel fun
mortal crag
@thick kelp is light company better than puzzlebox for slayer??
kind stag
compared to mash whirlwind and rampage and pop yo stuff
mortal crag
sims higher in 5min ST
mortal crag
demolish is a fun button but aligning stuff and managing 3 different buffs toget...
sounds like thane minus the rend part
thick kelp
<@865605822638063647> is light company better than puzzlebox for slayer??
the 1.5min?
thick kelp
i think it lines up better for both hero specs
kind stag
idk thane just pops stuff super fast, avatar and reck go together
thick kelp
but for me it loses to pbox myth
mortal crag
i just hate using puzzle mid boss or really.. anywhere that isnt pre pull
its 266 puzzle vs 266 guide
mortal crag
i have double ring btw
thick kelp
i think it linesup better than pbox
thick kelp
ur crits kinda low
thick kelp
both me and cone have around 33-35%
torn rivet
strange basalt
how do you sim arms on raidbots? Is it similar to simming fury since its basically just your ST cleaving?
so should i just sim patchwerk?
thick kelp
how do you sim arms on raidbots? Is it similar to simming fury since its basical...
1T for Xmins or 5-8T Xmins
xmins = your aversge pull dura
strange basalt
1T for Xmins or 5-8T Xmins
you use hectic add cleave or dungeon slice for simming for M+ builds
stray vault
heroic strike goes just below cleave in this priority or the one in wowhead is correct?
minor gust
read your talents you learn a lot!
strange basalt
heroic strike is consumed by cleave
damn i was wondering the same thing
slender sonnet
only 273, 90 myth crests in my bag 
spring vale
myth weapon craft next week 
strange basalt
for M+ builds do we sim off dung slice or hectic add cleave?
midnight mural
only 273, 90 myth crests in my bag <:sadge:820202363359854633>
bugged ui right? 🙂
slender sonnet
bugged ui right? 🙂
New rings
minor gust
for M+ builds do we sim off dung slice or hectic add cleave?
My man just told you what to do
midnight mural
those are some nice rings tho
slender sonnet
Yes they are tasty
spring vale
Syi with barely any repair money on hand 💀
slender sonnet
tertiary king queen
spring vale
leech is big
slender sonnet
I lost all my gold gambling in raid
strange basalt
My man just told you what to do
where does it say patchwerk or dung slice in there?
slender sonnet
but I've got 320k coming from boosting and 102k from my friend
I've spent so much gold gearing 3 chars
crazy
tbf my evoker is only 252
but 3 crafted item
is expensive
thick kelp
you use hectic add cleave or dungeon slice for simming for M+ builds
patchwerk
spring vale
i set up my own crafters not only to save a bit of gold but also bc im on dead server cluster so its almost impossible find other craftes for orders 🪦
slender sonnet
tardy lodge
Is there any estimate about how much of a dps loss the PTR is over live?
hushed pine
tertiary ~~king~~ queen
That should've been me
I'm happy for you
But that should've happened to me instead
nova marsh
I'm catchin up
sand totem
Hey lads. What's the generally accepted cutoff to hold BS for Csmash? Sometimes if I dont get procs I have like... 20 seconds left before Csmash comes online. Dunno if I should hold it or just let it rip.
Cause I remember someone mentioning its not great to rip BS without smash up
dull tendon
It’s close to like 30 seconds isn’t it?
I think with the current low CD of colo you just always hold BS for it and never hold a Csmash for anything unless you won’t get full value cause of immune or mechanics
mortal crag
you use hectic add cleave or dungeon slice for simming for M+ builds
No what lmao
sand totem
It’s close to like 30 seconds isn’t it?
That seems like such a long time to hold it! Wowanalyzer already gives me shit for holding it for like 10-15 hahaha
dull tendon
Someone with a greater mind than mine may tell you different but I believe that is what you do.
Like I think the value loss for no Csmash on BS is pretty hefty
And Csmash is up every 2 seconds these days
random trout
just checking guys so opener in Aoe pull we are rend -> Ava -> Colossus -> cleave x2 -> blade spin ?
tulip harness
in execute scenarios im always rage starved is that normal?
slender sonnet
I'm catchin up
Huge gaming
nova marsh
in execute scenarios im always rage starved is that normal?
Rage problems are all over the spec atm
tulip harness
but i still only use ms with 2 stacks of execute ?
nova marsh
Yes
tulip harness
and do i care about martial prowess?
nova marsh
No
tulip harness
big help thanks
slender sonnet
ah k
ornate juniper
i love slayer shit feel amazing, drowning in rage
summer niche
Slarms iin m+ feels so beautiful
ornate juniper
archon also placing us S tier now
stable fiber
archon also placing us S tier now
fake site
nova marsh
Raid is a mini game
slender sonnet
ornate juniper
room temperature IQ
slender sonnet
Oh no that's for me to report his potentially offensive message
nova marsh
Please do cuz that's funny
scarlet cedar
stupid pink class
slender sonnet
Most sane paladin player
wind hatch
wtf even prompted this
slender sonnet
fuck if I know
I am listing my +9 aa on my evoker
didnt even see the guy
delist and relist and then see his name in my chat window
slender sonnet
my evoker hit 90 today
and I've had raid and pushed some keys on main in that time
i dont get it
nova marsh
Ye my warr is fresh 90 too
I wanted to do all delves + nightmare hunts and shit first
slender sonnet
I think it's not bad tbf
ornate juniper
alteast you dont have to think about trinkets unless you doing raid
inland heron
what talents for dreamrift?
ornate juniper
the ones that make you do damage i presume
kind stag
woah, i gotta try that
summer niche
I think it's not bad tbf
that seems like alot of hours for one day xD
latent moss
only 273, 90 myth crests in my bag <:sadge:820202363359854633>
bro has guidon and heart
axaxaaxaxxaaxax
last saddle
i called acherus they said you were their top guy
slender sonnet
that seems like alot of hours for one day xD
Im off work lol
slender sonnet
bro has guidon and heart
and puzzle box
spring vale
fuckle box
slender sonnet
and heart of ancient hunger
tawny stream
stupid noob arms question: Why doesnt m+ slayer build take Thunderclap to apply rend? I feel like looking at the tree we can quite easily lose out on wrecking throw and take it
kind thunder
stupid noob arms question: Why doesnt m+ slayer build take Thunderclap to apply ...
rend now aoe
tawny stream
right, but does thunder clap not do more dmg ? I am coming from thane fury so idk
im just asking because I dont think ive ever used wrecking throw LOL
slender sonnet
wt good
fervent cedar
im just asking because I dont think ive ever used wrecking throw LOL
Read javelineer. Wrecking throw is now a silence
Its a nice piece of utility
kind thunder
im just asking because I dont think ive ever used wrecking throw LOL
with javelineer it silences and theres a good amount of shields u can wreck
kind stag
this weeks affix for example
tawny stream
Thank you!
kind thunder
why do we prio heroic strike more on execute window?
nova marsh
why do we prio heroic strike more on execute window?
Just to get it out. You can't afford to hold it because of raghe
kind thunder
do we not press it at all on aoe?
kind thunder
cleave with fervor of battle casts it for you, empowers it too
completely forgot about that talent tyvm 🫡
soft gust
👍
stark pike
collateral?
nova marsh
Did one +2 and im hooked
minor gust
Amen
slate plinth
collateral?
timid elk
How big of a ST loss is losing reap from sudden death?
quiet bramble
Did one +2 and im hooked
Mah d shrank when i deal ST dmg 
vapid spire
So blizzard is starring at us in silence this week ?
umbral badger
How big of a ST loss is losing reap from sudden death?
they still wanna do that ?
it's the only thing that makes arms AoE fun, makes mortal strikes feel more juicy after suddendeath reaps 😮
timid elk
For single I thought yes? They added it back if SD hits two targets via sweeping
timid elk
Nah they backpedaled a bit
quiet bramble
Yes, no one at blizz plays wwarrior
terse plume
so now when you cleave sudden death it procs it 100% and then it still triggers on MS or something right
when its also cleaved
timid elk
It'd be cool if they had single target SD proc a slayer's strike in ST though
umbral badger
i mean blizzard not understanding how popularity works is next level, the weakness of the spec put it in all populariy low "at least up there if not of all times i would assume ?"
timid elk
So SD just procs a thing respective of ST or cleave
quiet bramble
AI taking joke feedbacks for class balance 
umbral badger
it's like you can be warrior number 50 and get like a blue parse cuz of how few arms warriros are playing lol
terse plume
ah its cleave
umbral badger
i saw someoen t alking about it , was funny.
quiet bramble
Damn, what’s the ideal haste and crit, 19% haste still feels slow
cyan skiff
is there a consensus on which season dungeons for slayer vs col?
minor gust
its mostly about what your comp is not really the dungeon
does your group benefit from more ST play slayer. If you already got some boss blasters and maybe your in a cordinated group whos gonna pull trash onto bosses play colo
pastel stirrup
Im going to miss crushing combo 3 cleave
I was reading the ptr change notes and it says it increases the reap the storm chance to 20% but the live reap the storm is already at 20%
nova marsh
I was reading the ptr change notes and it says it increases the reap the storm c...
it was nerfed
For ptr
Then buffed back
minor gust
Eww I messed up on saladbar and didnt BS pad on the lil orb spawns
My tanks are special
pastel stirrup
So the ptr change is meaningless
nova marsh
That's not the reap change
The change is it's no longer proccing on st
That's the change that matters
nova marsh
Combine with the other PTR changes it's about a 1% loss for st
But prayers we get a round of tuning before it goes live
pastel stirrup
I dont understand why we are getting nerfed when we arent even in the top
Catching strays
pastel stirrup
Oh?
nova marsh
It's to make us easier to tune for aoe and ST
Or that's what we've been hoping
And we got to keep Exe reap too (THANK GOD)
pastel stirrup
Honeslty it would be terrible to lose reap on any of the abilities that trigger it
Slayer is super fun dont change it blizz
wind hatch
My tanks are special
the tanks in my guild are actually so good but half of our dps just suck
nova marsh
I don't think reap changes so long as we actually do get tuning are bad now
well
for arms
For fury it's uhhh...
smoky kayak
Fury will also be fine, as long as it gets some compensatory ST tuning
in fact, Fury Slayer is probably changing the least in 12.0.5
timid elk
Just have SD proc slayer strike if one target hit or proc reap if two targets hit, ez
nova marsh
Fury will also be fine, as long as it gets some compensatory ST tuning
Does fury slayer reap proc off of WW buff?
I forgot
smoky kayak
it procs off Rampage or Sudden Death that hits multiple targets
nova marsh
Oh so it's fine ye
pastel stirrup
Fuck me im getting scared for the tuning
smoky kayak
yeah, and Slayer is also getting 20% increased Bladestorm damage, so all it's losing is the ST Reap procs
pastel stirrup
Its my first time progging with arms and will hate it so much if they make it bad
smoky kayak
there are a lot of things they could do to compensate that, though I'm shooting for a Slayer's Malice buff (for both Arms and Fury)
minor gust
there are a lot of things they could do to compensate that, though I'm shooting ...
I wouldnt be surprised if they just go the buff slayers strikes route
smoky kayak
I mean that would be the simplest way of just buffing ST
minor gust
smelly demolish
wind hatch
arms is playing colo on dragons?
smoky kayak
I like the Slayer's Malice route because it works for both Arms and Fury
- Arms Slayer is losing some multitarget, so pushing up Overpower/DN will help and Execute also helps keep its ST ahead of Colossus (which brings much more AoE)
- Fury Slayer would gain RB and Execute damage, which is mostly ST oriented, but will also help push up its AoE a bit, since it generaly lags behind Thane anyway
nova marsh
Unironically
smoky kayak
and doing it through the Slayer passive will avoid messing with Colossus/Thane balance
wind hatch
arms is playing colo on dragons?
holy voidorb pad
minor gust
arms is playing colo on dragons?
My dks are gorefiendsing ontop of me so I might as well press demolish
nova marsh
I think aside from demo being able to be tank trolled (Why blizzard), the only thing I hate about colo is ravager
smoky kayak
I think aside from demo being able to be tank trolled (Why blizzard), the only t...
Ravager is the #1 thing I want changed
wind hatch
i cant afford to pad cuz my dps do no damage
nova marsh
Ravager is the #1 thing I want changed
Still just delete it?
smoky kayak
if they would commit to just deleting Ravager form the game, I think Colossus would be damn near perfect
nova marsh
Yeah I agree.
I'd like a tad more ST, but I don't feel like the boss damage is a real dealbreaker
smoky kayak
I'd like a *tad* more ST, but I don't feel like the boss damage is a real dealbr...
its getting like 5% more through Mortal Wounds
nova marsh
its getting like 5% more through Mortal Wounds
Ye, it'll probally feel fine once .5 hits and we get all the changes
smoky kayak
and if they replace Ravager with something a lil more universal, like I've suggested, then it could pick up another couple percent
- one of the (many) issues with Ravager is that it only affects multitarget
nova marsh
I could see that working for colo
minor gust
Would def let colo keep its burst aoe feel
marsh needle
can someone check this log for me, trying to figure out why my damage was so low
was it just low add damage? our adds were really messed up
my damage is usually pretty good, including our heroic kill was fine
minor gust
can someone check this log for me, trying to figure out why my damage was so low
Just doing a quick 1 min run through you can start with making sure your press CS on CD. You press CS at 26 seconds and you dont press it again till 1:17
just inting your dmg there
marsh needle
Just doing a quick 1 min run through you can start with making sure your press C...
was holding it for adds
but yeah it doesnt seem to be worth!
nova marsh
was holding it for adds
Holding it that long is like 2 casts
minor gust
theres not really anything worth padding on voracious
wind hatch
holding for adds on vorasius is generally not worth it unless theres just a couple secs left
nova marsh
CS's CD assuming good uptime is like 20~ seconds irrc
marsh needle
holding for adds on vorasius is generally not worth it unless theres just a coup...
good to know
minor gust
Focus on hitting the boss also your cds are super desynced
marsh needle
looking at top logs my breakdown is simlar, it just seems like i was holding stuff too much for adds
minor gust
pressing Ava and BS without CS up on boss
marsh needle
at least always hold bladestorm for adds tho?
nova marsh
For volo no
wind hatch
at least always hold bladestorm for adds tho?
no
marsh needle
pressing Ava and BS without CS up on boss
yeah, CS had longer than 15 sec til it was up
wind hatch
bladestorm is too valuable with the tier set
marsh needle
i thought that was the max we waited?
minor gust
yeah, CS had longer than 15 sec til it was up
Prob due to you holding CS so much that first period
marsh needle
SO P much I just need to stop holding anything? And send on CD. Got it lol
minor gust
send on cd and ava/cs shouldnt really desync that hard
marsh needle
Just been looking thru a lot of logs on certain fights a lot of people seem to be holding cd's for certain damage events
minor gust
depends how long the hold is and how much value you get out of it
if you hare holding cds to hit adds for like 3 seconds
thats not worth
wind hatch
Just been looking thru a lot of logs on certain fights a lot of people seem to b...
for fights like averzian with a ton of adds yeah
minor gust
unless obviously you are hitting 20 adds like mythic dragons
wind hatch
but the adds on vorasius are not frequent or numerous enough to really worry about
just try to get passive cleave with sweeping strikes
hollow wave
I wish Ignore pain was useful
minor gust
I dont thats another button I dont wanna press
half lichen
Hello all, my single target damage (m+ collosal spec) is absolutely atrocious lol, any tips?
nova marsh
Hello all, my single target damage (m+ collosal spec) is absolutely atrocious lo...
You mean aside from spec slayer?
Jokes aside
half lichen
Yeah, aside from that lol
nova marsh
Could help more if you showed us a log so we can tell what you're doing wrong
half lichen
Im struggling to out dps tanks on bosses lmao
marsh needle
Hello all, my single target damage (m+ collosal spec) is absolutely atrocious lo...
yes dont play colossus LUL
most ppl are playing slayer in M+ now
but ur ST dmg will be bad as colossus
half lichen
Gotcha, I just went with Colossus because it said (best) next to it for m+
On the wowhead guide
wind hatch
Gotcha, I just went with Colossus because it said (best) next to it for m+
I'd say colossus is just as good as slayer is right now
so just play whatever you prefer
smoky kayak
Gotcha, I just went with Colossus because it said (best) next to it for m+
Colossus is still higher overall AoE
Slayer is just better balanced ST vs AoE
you also don't have to futz with Demolish if that's something that tilts you
half lichen
Yeah im just struggling bad lol doing like 30k single target but can pull solid damage generally AoE, issue is boss fights are long enough ESPECIALLY with me doing such little ST that it really tanks my overall, but yeah I assume I need to keep rend up better and there's somwthing else I must be doing wrong
pastel moss
i haven't played arms since dragonflight and colossus feels backwards
fym i don't use execute during execute
brazen sigil
Where does heroic strike fit into the aoe rotation for arms?
paper gulch
Heroic strike activates from cleaving 3 targets
zealous lily
at how many targets do we switch to the aoe rotation 3+?
quiet bramble
3 targets lol
rare kite
can we get some more arms players so my rank 12 isn't a fkn purple???
west estuary
I was watching critcake earlier and he was able to hit mortal strike like 4-5 times in a row, what talent allows that because mine is never up that much.
quiet bramble
Get lucky with tactican
boreal remnant
Where does heroic strike fit into the aoe rotation for arms?
heroic strike gets casted automatically by cleave at 3+ targets
rare kite
I was watching critcake earlier and he was able to hit mortal strike like 4-5 ti...
it's either bladestorm proccing them and you see that on logs/details or just lots of lucky battelord procs
west estuary
it's either bladestorm proccing them and you see that on logs/details or just lo...
ah ok, that makes sense.
chrome bay
new to arms, is there a way to activate sweeping strikes without actually pressing it? im watching a vod and the ability activates without pressing it, maybe it's an UI bug but im thinking if there's an ability that procs sweeping
zealous lily
Colossus smash with the talent activates it
minor gust
new to arms, is there a way to activate sweeping strikes without actually pressi...
Read the talent broad strokes
tepid citrus
Hello all, my single target damage (m+ collosal spec) is absolutely atrocious lo...
Crit. More gear. It gets better the higher your ilvl gets ands main stat scaling
boreal remnant
new to arms, is there a way to activate sweeping strikes without actually pressi...
colossus smash and sweeping strikes
minor gust
The colossus orb pad on mythic dragons is a feeling
warm fog
it's either bladestorm proccing them and you see that on logs/details or just lo...
Yeah it’s the addon that shows player casts, it will show all the mortal strikes you cast during blade storm as if he was casting them himself
minor ivy
Not if you’re actually being invited to groups
rare kite
i wish i could say the same. the amount of nexus point keys i have done...
nova marsh
I hate nexus point
Kill that key
Pugs literally cant I stg
God I cant wait to spam pit
Because I play crit haste specs 
slow saddle
I hate nexus point
Its good🙃
nova marsh
The ring is
And the damage amps YESSSS
But lotharaxian and core warden are annoying
And trash....meh
wind hatch
I hate nexus point
farming the rings from that place gave me ptsd
nova marsh
farming the rings from that place gave me ptsd
Thank god I didnt for outlaw...now i do for arms
Also the trash in the last section
Absoutlely awful
rare kite
farming the rings from that place gave me ptsd
been doing that for the last few days. gotten the void ring 6 times and seen it way more, seen the light ring twice
nova marsh
been doing that for the last few days. gotten the void ring 6 times and seen it ...
Theres a reason I stopped target farming after s1 of tww
Farming the trinket from grim on enhance was pain
I stg i almost quit wow over that
slow saddle
farming the rings from that place gave me ptsd
I still need light after 25
slow saddle
Prefer mc at least it throws frogs
nova marsh
I cannot play Mc to save my life
First it was skyreach
Then I stopped trolling there
Now its caverns
Idk maybe it'll click on arms
Does anyone have the cat gif for our rota
quiet bramble
I hate nexus point
Purple around u hurts so bad 
nova marsh
Yeah the bladestorm mobs are cringe
Actually
There are like 3 dungeons with bladestorm mobs
So extra xringe
rare kite
Purple around u hurts so bad <:deadge:900279927138578432>
can berserker rage to remove it. or slayer charge
basically does not exist for us as slayer
pastel moss
are the magic bladestorms from the assholes at the end of algathar new?
pastel moss
i swear pulling a bunch of shit into the last room used to be normal
and now it's utter aids
nova marsh
Well whats new
rare kite
i mean they aren't new but they are worse than in df
nova marsh
Is the clones i think
It used to be juat the guys doing it
Now they spread it all over the damn plaxe
pastel moss
yeah that sounds more right
and then throwing in a bleed on the plants is cool too
have an aug or fuck your fun
nova marsh
Yeah aa is a totally different beast nowadays
Na man
Just split the damn pull
I know its less fun but the third lasher is just not worth it
brazen sigil
Anyone know of a reminder addon of some kind that tells you to rend lmao?
i keep forgetting to press rend on pull in dungeons since i'm practicing arms for vanguard
ocean nacelle
hi, perhaps anyone could explain, why on paladins when we are cleaving only 2 bosses we are prioritizing cleave over standard colossus ST rotation with SS?
upbeat wharf
When in execute range, if I already have two stacks of Execution's Precision, and I don't have enough rage to cast Mortal Strike, do I use Execute again and overcap Execution's Precision stacks, or wait for enough rage to cast Mortal Strike?
ocean nacelle
When in execute range, if I already have two stacks of Execution's Precision, an...
wait for MS
broken minnow
10 skyreach and no trinket, fml
Are bis trinket from there?
inland drift
The solarflame thingy
leaden coral
best aura for arms ? which addon if u use it or settings for blizzard one ?
quaint otter
the one ure comfy with...
leaden coral
im new with this things, but how i can set an aura that tell me when de buff isnt more active ?
jade shale
Is it normal that i can keep up in damage in trash pulls in mythic+ but on ST i just do half of the damage of other classses?
cobalt sinew
sick nebula
I need to get better with arms I suck
gusty oxide
put the one button rotation on your bar as a guide but press the actual spell. 
maiden apex
As arms slayer single target we don't use execute outside of sudden death procs right?
untold pewter
As arms slayer single target we don't use execute outside of sudden death procs ...
We do, follow the priority on wowhead
slender raptor
In higher m+ keys, do you guys prefer slayer or colossus?
tight wing
In higher m+ keys, do you guys prefer slayer or colossus?
I prefer slayer, but colo does more damage
slayer just doesn't feel as clunky imo
molten rapids
Do i want my reck pot to give me crit or haste as slayer arms in m+?
maiden apex
We do, follow the priority on wowhead
Ah so it replaces slam basically in execute phase.
maiden apex
In higher m+ keys, do you guys prefer slayer or colossus?
The guy Biz seem to wreck with slayer in m+ but he also seem to be REALLY good and have a good group setup
untold pewter
Ah so it replaces slam basically in execute phase.
Not quite exactly like that you see
Mortal Strike shouldn't be used before 2 stacks of EP, which is different from the regular rotation
Honestly the TLDR is basically
maiden apex
EP? Sorry im new.
untold pewter
Execute 2x -> Check for Heroic Strike -> Check for Overpower (If <90 rage) -> Mortal Strike (with 2x EP)
So it'll usually look like
Execute Execute Overpower Mortal Strike
Or like
Execute Execute Heroic Strike Mortal Strike
Executioner's Precision, do read your talents mate
maiden apex
Ah ofc. But that's not at all what the guide says lol or im just reading it wrong. And this is in execute phase only ofc?
untold pewter
Yes execute phase only
strong pine
how ass is arms with no Crit ?
Coming from fury wanting to try arms
So i basicly have barely any crtit xD
maiden apex
Yes execute phase only
In normal rotation I use MS without 2x EP yes?
fresh spire
Slayer plays well with fury stats, Colossus will want some crit though to make CM cleaner
strong pine
Slayer plays well with fury stats, Colossus will want some crit though to make C...
only have 400 and vorasius trinket
Q_Q
untold pewter
In normal rotation I use MS without 2x EP yes?
In normal rotation you do not have execute freely available, meaning you do not have a way to generate the executioner's precision stacks, so yes
In Execute phase only
Heroic Strike is prio #1, you use it any time you get it there
Mortal strike is only used after you've cast Execute 2x (2 stacks of EP), so clock that, in between each mortal strike there should be 2 execute casts
Overpower is used when you're <90 rage
crystal hedge
I want to try arms but I hate rend from the bottom of my heart. I don't want to play a bleed spec 🙁 can't they just bake it into cleave or smth
zenith warren
sometimes when I do slayer arms aoe opener and spam sd after cleaves, I get reap of the storm procs and it makes me think I already used bladestorm because I was pressing it but it's fake as animation is the same so I end up delaying it like 1-2 seconds xd
fresh spire
only have 400 and vorasius trinket
farm up pos for neck or ring from nexus/aa for some crit
maiden apex
In normal rotation you do not have execute freely available, meaning you do not ...
Allright thanks a lot !!!
untold pewter
In normal rotation you will prioritize sending mortal strike on cooldown
Pretty much
Just MS on cooldown
If it's available, press it
maiden apex
Ye what I've been doing. Then heroic strike before and sudden death procs
untold pewter
In normal rotation, heroic strike and sudden death procs come after mortal strike
So you still mortal strike before using those
You don't have to worry because they'll buff your next mortal strike cast anyway
So don't sit on that Mortal Strike to consume the procs before using it
Send it
And then send the procs
Just clock that this changes in execute
Because heroic strike becomes the priority in execute (the reason is essentially because heroic strike applies the armor break debuff which makes everything else do more damage, so you want to use that asap)
Berserker rage can remove a lot of nasty shit in these dungeons
Fearless is huge
sharp flame
yea i’m watching Bizenteins video in a 19 NPX
and he ain’t doing it idk he knows
removing that DOT completely is insane
maiden apex
Just clock that this changes in execute
Because heroic strike becomes the priori...
Ok. Makes sense. So heroic strike over ms in execute phase
sharp flame
yes you can also charge to remove it as slayer
sorry boss my brain went full adhd mode
full obsidian
sharp flame
yes you can also charge to remove it as slayer
does anyone have a notepad with these tricks or nah?
like similar to the spell reflect thing?
untold pewter
Idk about any note pad but I learnt a lot of them by just sending zerk whenever I got any debuff
And taking note of what worked
daring heron
does anyone have a notepad with these tricks or nah?
🧠 <-
untold pewter
Pretty much that
sharp flame
nice LMAO goat
floral tide
Ayo, anyone have a good example M+ run for colossus? My toon is missing a myth weapon but my damage is drastically lower than it should be and I'd like to watch someone who really explains it.
boreal remnant
floral tide
I actually watched that one yesterday haha. It's kinda hard to understand everything they are doing
oblique lodge
Ayo, anyone have a good example M+ run for colossus? My toon is missing a myth w...
any bizentein clip
floral tide
I'd love to see a guide from him
ionic mica
I'd love to see a guide from him
He's said he will once tuning settles down so it doesn't get immediately outdated
But you can always go ask him when he's streaming if you have specific questions after reading the wowhead guides
south cipher
He just said on stream that he would sit down tomorrow and start a guide, when it comes out he couldnt say
vast helm
opp strike back when?
zenith storm
Is the Warrior that currently deals the best DPS in dungeons the Arms spec? And what is its best Hero Talent?
latent moss
ye arms
both hero talents are very good
different damage profile
slayer is more st while colo is more aoe and prio dmg
vernal flame
outer forge
never
hollow raft
Anyone know why heroic strike is being consumed/used when I use cleave. Playing as Slayer arms
floral tide
It's a talent, can't remember the name atm, but it uses the proc to do more dmg
hollow raft
is it working for mortal and overpower aswell?
thick kelp
fervor of battle
hollow raft
ty
floral tide
is it working for mortal and overpower aswell?
Just cleave/whirlwind
south cipher
But we still consume Heroic Strike with Slam on ST, correct?
halcyon valve
Yes
tall socket
hows arms doing now with the buffs it has been getting lately?
olive nest
halcyon valve
Arms owns
slender sonnet
Arms owns
old urchin
Been having fun in keys. And honestly the ST isn’t as bad as I thought it would be. It’s still like 10-12k less than I can do as fury but the cleave brother the cleave.
sharp goblet
slayer ST is decent - it's colo that struggles a bit
kind stag
played so far mainly slarms in keys
eager sable
hows arms doing now with the buffs it has been getting lately?
depends what you want it to do. high chance it's a mainstay in the MDI as possibly the highest overall damage spec in the game. But if you want to compete on boss meters, it's still very possibly the worst
kind stag
feels way better than colo
sharp goblet
man i always forget to press rend 
kind stag
same
eager sable
same
eager sable
i'm even playing feral right now and have no trouble at all upkeeping bleeds. hop on arms, can't remember rend exists
sharp goblet
i mean it's a button, it's not Bin Laden ffs hahahha
fresh spire
i haven't even checked on ptr if rends worth pressing yet with the wounds change :C
kind stag
its just there because blizzard cant decide if arms should be big number big crit spec or bleed
sharp goblet
but yea I just forget
eager sable
its just there because blizzard cant decide if arms should be big number big cri...
instead we're a "wow, that's a lot of little dreadnought and rend ticks on my screen covering up all the big numbers so everything feels like nothing" spec
eager sable
i see no other reasonable option but that, yeah
kind stag
why are we like this
each xpac we suffer because of playing this class
and yet we come back
thick kelp
looks fine
floral tide
I've been a frost dk Stan for late dragon flight and all of TWW. Friends have been telling me to arms forever because I just like using a 2h and plate classes. Paladins are lame
thick kelp
sometimes u throw in unnecessary op and ms
after your cleave spam
before u bs
which means your bs falls out of cs window on some mobs
but breakdown is correct looking
rough pewter
oh thank you friend
so just
after cleave spam
forget everything
blade the fucking storm
thick kelp
send your SD's
then bs
you can technically hold on to 1 SD if it wont fall off during your BS
if you happen to get 2 SD procs from cleaves
floral tide
SDs and BS? OP?
olive nest
You cleave spam before bladestorming?
floral tide
Kk
thick kelp
You cleave spam before bladestorming?
for a minor dps gain
rough pewter
but if i dont have any sd i bs after cleaves the same?
thick kelp
yeah
rough pewter
thank you for the help
but if mostly my log is okey
why warcraft log says my damage is mid?
its not valid
or my ilvl
torpid acorn
i mean it's a button, it's not Bin Laden ffs hahahha
at least the 2nd one is dead, Rend is still around
sharp goblet
only things I dislike about slayer are Rend and SD rng, sometimes I can send bladestorm with 3 cs in a row sometimes I get 1 bs in 3 cs 
i enjoy Colo a lot, but we need ST (our group) and also fuck ravager
olive nest
for a minor dps gain
Interesting I’ll have to try that out
slow saddle
i enjoy Colo a lot, but we need ST (our group) and also fuck ravager
Hear me out
JUST BUFF MS 20%
in both Spec and in tree as well
so Colo has big fucking MS hits
half lichen
How bad should I realistically expect ST to be in keys, ilvl 256ish 263 ilvl wep and not ideally statted items?
Because I see that colo has troubles single target as people are mentioning. I feel im significantly under even whatever we should be able to do lol
rose ibex
Because I see that colo has troubles single target as people are mentioning. I f...
Prolly like 40k without a shaman. Maybe less
sharp goblet
well you shouldn't be losing to the tank - but generally compare yourself to similarly geared players of most other specs and subtract like 0-20%
rose ibex
Colossus st is terrible
half lichen
Im normally like... competing with the tank or beating them by a bit, at 30-40k lol
Tank and I had to 2 man first boss in a 9 sky reach last night because healer and other dps decided to die it took a long time lmao
sharp goblet
yea it's not THAT bad, it's not tank damage, but you can easily fall to that if you miss uptime, or use abilities suboptimally, don't have tier, etc...
but generally, just play slayer, the ST is much nicer, and feels more forgiving
half lichen
I have 2 set bonus, idk how big our 4 set is. Juat hit 90 on this alt a day or two ago so
Gotcha, yeah ill probably try it out. (Slayer) because I also am pretty upset at not using bladestorm because its BA
thick kelp
why warcraft log says my damage is mid?
key logs are fake
sharp goblet
i like Avatar more than BS, but it does feel good to press as slayer, and it's 100000x better than ravager
thick kelp
Get a tank who pulls the entire key in 3-6 pulls
and extra adds on bosses
and u parse 100
sharp goblet
but genuinelly tell more tanks to pull adds on top of bosses
no one does it by default
and it's so good
thick kelp
massive time saver to pull a pack you would pull anyway with a boss
most classes gain something out of it
half lichen
Esp since theres normally a bit of time at the start of boss encounters where you aren't dealing with any mechs
thick kelp
(not rets)
rose ibex
I definitely feel like I struggle vs some classes in some pulls
sharp goblet
offensively or defensively?
rose ibex
Im mostly playing slayer. Its when we do the big giant pulls with lust that classes like frost mage, demo lock, ret pally, and spriest seem to get numbers up to 500k dps and stuff but I can maybe get only about 250k to 300k or whatever
floral tide
My biggest issue with arms is deciding when to send abilities that get faster cooldowns... Like BS, should I ever hold it?
Same with colossus
rose ibex
Like very often its just not safe for me to jump in and start dpsing
olive nest
Yeah you want to Bladestorm with colossus smash exclusively
rose ibex
So i lose in that sense
sharp goblet
you will get outbursted often but warriors have cds constantly, and defensively you are very strong
just plonk into defensive stance if you're scared
rose ibex
Still, cannot keep up with them usually. Their single target is also better
Nah man. Cannot risk dying
Thinking about specifically the big pills in agalthar, nexus point, and seat off the rip
half lichen
Yeah the big first AA pull is a bit annoying with demolish lol gotta find the right window and even then tank ahs to kite for bleed
sharp goblet
nexus and seat are fairly safe pulls though, no? but i see what you mean, AA is rippy
rose ibex
Very often the tank cant get good aggro on everything as they are kiting so you can pull and get popped. Meanwhile rets just bubble and go ham ignoring everything
olive nest
You should be lusting the big tree pull in AA so you can demolish fairly easily being hasted
sharp goblet
sts is basically bubble for melee adds
rose ibex
nexus and seat are fairly safe pulls though, no? but i see what you mean, AA is ...
Its like the parts where you get inconvenienced by the claws and have to go around
sharp goblet
not sts, die by the sword
rose ibex
Losing dps
half lichen
You should be lusting the big tree pull in AA so you can demolish fairly easily ...
True enough, for some reason our lust forgot to press it in the 11 I did last night and we got ripskid on it.
rose ibex
Like my dps isnt terrible for these parts but its not 500k+
sharp goblet
maybe watch critcake a bit, see what he does/where he positions? visual generally helps a lot
rose ibex
And im at 271 ilvl atm
thick kelp
If you struggle with AA first pull just send your cds after everything is gathered and hold demo untill after the first green puddles
rose ibex
Oh ive been playing slayer
kind stag
If you struggle with AA first pull just send your cds after everything is gather...
actually goated advice thanks
i forget sometimes i gotta hold
olive nest
It’s not bad to hold the demo anyway because you get stacks for it while waiting for a good timing
Since its first pull you start with none
kind stag
whats the cutoff on holding colostrike, demo and bladestorm? 20s and below on avatar i hold it?
sharp goblet
u hold for CS, not Avatar
like you should never Demolish / Bladestorm
if cs is not up
half lichen
Gotcha, yah the guide mentioned at least avatar is pretty meaningless outside of combining with CS
kind stag
but how long do i hold? any cutoff on seconds?
half lichen
Well i guess I have some stuff i can try to improve on for sure for colossal ST dam, but glad to know its genuinely just had and im not doing like 50% of what I should be somehow
kind stag
or just perma hold
olive nest
They should never be desyncd in a way where you wouldn’t hold all cds for CS
If they are you just miss played somehow
half lichen
Plus CS Is half the CD of them so, its kinda hard to be crazy out of sync
You slam CS on CD and them with CS where possible it seems
kind stag
half lichen
Yeah should just always be every other CS you have the other cds
I see Latches hook is our second BIS trinket, I assume we need to be using that after CS as well. Just realized I have it macrod together and being used before CS, need to fix that.
thick kelp
Doesnt get affected by cs
storm canopy
did the slayer m+ build change? since the buff or nah
half lichen
Doesnt get affected by cs
Oh good. No need to change it then
brave cape
Just tried arms after a long time of playing fury, dunno how to feel, it feels slower, in cleaves more dps than fury but around 20% dps in st as colosus talent tree, any advice?
kind stag
colo just has wack ST but giga cleave its how it is
if you want more rounded profile go slayer arms
brave cape
colo just has wack ST but giga cleave its how it is
So i should choose what i want in reality. More cleave or boss dps
kind stag
make sure you got classes in group to carry you on ST so you can do crazy cleave for trash pulls
i prefer slayer also due to it being way easier
brave cape
i prefer slayer also due to it being way easier
How it is easier? U have less skills?
kind stag
things align better, less rage issues, bladestorm is miles better than ravager
ravager is clunky and demolish as strong as it is, is also clunky
kind stag
you shouldnt because there are better ppl than me here
brave cape
river tapir
am i blind? does the arms guide say when to press cleave over ms in aoe? guess its 4 targets?
latent moss
3+t
floral tide
Alrighty next dumb question. In ST is it ever smart to hold MS and build up stacks from overpower/execute/slam for a bigger hitting MS or just send it always
latent moss
Ty and am i blind? i cant find that info
aoe is 3+t for arms
at 2t u do st rota and weave cleave with 3 stacks of collat
hearty sedge
yo im new to warrior ( and kinda retail overall) would yall recommend learning arms or fury?
astral flint
historically arms it the red head step child for blizz so probably fury
river tapir
at 2t u do st rota and weave cleave with 3 stacks of collat
thats also new for me, is stuff like this just not included in the guide atm? or am i just stupid blind
floral tide
I hate myself so I've started to learn arms.
olive nest
Cooler people play arms
hearty sedge
I dont really know xD they both seems quite complicated :3
kind stag
honestly both will probably be fine
arms is bit harder but still not bad, fury is braindead
olive nest
If complicated is what you’re worried about I personally find fury to be a lot easier
kind stag
lot of arms players make arms seem harder than it actually is
but Fury is way more straightforward
olive nest
But being fair they’re both about the same “difficulty”
kind stag
also 2 2handed weapons
floral tide
Guts only needs 1 2h
latent moss
thats also new for me, is stuff like this just not included in the guide atm? or...
idk i havent looked at the wowhesd guide but prio should be split into st and aoe
colo in m+ is significantly harder than slayer arms and both fury
imo
sharp goblet
are addons that call out interrupts or is that killed? I noticed I've been slacking on stuns/interrupts after I set up plater
kind stag
agreed buzt still easier than rogue, feral or havoc dh
latent moss
idk about feral or havoc but rogues lost their complexity
olive nest
Rogues seem to be a lot easier by the sounds of it but I haven’t played one in ages to compare
thorn stream
agreed buzt still easier than rogue, feral or havoc dh
Rogue is not really hard
thick kelp
neither is feral after midnight
river tapir
idk i havent looked at the wowhesd guide but prio should be split into st and ao...
its not there, no. cant find anything about collateral damage
olive nest
Is sub still all about burst window?
latent moss
ye cause its aoe
2t is not aoe
on aoe u dont care about collat since u send cleave on cd anyway
river tapir
2t is not aoe
but i cant find anything about 2t
floral tide
Alrighty next dumb question. In ST is it ever smart to hold MS and build up stac...
What stacks do I really need to pay attention to in 1-2 target?
thick kelp
What stacks do I really need to pay attention to in 1-2 target?
Collateral
and sweeping strikes
latent moss
but i cant find anything about 2t
idk i havent seen the guide
olive nest
I should figure out how to hide apex tracking on the cdm and put collat there instead
latent moss
but 2t is st rotation
floral tide
and sweeping strikes
Sick ty
river tapir
but 2t is st rotation
alright, fair enough. thanks
floral tide
I for sure wasn't watching collateral
river tapir
but 2t is st rotation
and 3+ is aoe rotation ?
tacit crystal
yea
river tapir
alright, got it. ty
floral tide
Are colossus sims broken on raidbots? I sim like 20-30k less than slayer
neon dome
Hi, I'm fairly new to arms, is there a dps difference between a crafted 2H sword/axe/mace?
kind stag
nop
neon dome
ty
zealous pumice
in slayer m+ are you trying to hold and pair bladestorm/colossus smash or do you just send everything on cd unless theyre a few sec off eachother
also is there a tangible use to the utility part of interpose or does it not matter
olive nest
Send cs on cd, hold everything else for cs
zealous pumice
Send cs on cd, hold everything else for cs
even if its like 30 sec off and i have a bladestorm reset?
olive nest
also is there a tangible use to the utility part of interpose or does it not mat...
Yeah if you want to be a cool guy interpose damage events in dstance
olive nest
even if its like 30 sec off and i have a bladestorm reset?
Yes, really they should never be desyncd that far apart
floral tide
Speaking of interpose... Does anyone have a macro that swaps between the two and cast on mouse? Aka don't need to click
zealous pumice
Yes, really they should never be desyncd that far apart
does this apply to avatar too
olive nest
Yes
zealous pumice
sims have my character sending avatar on cd but holding bladestorm for cs
olive nest
Would you rather:
do 20% more damage on random cleaves and mortal strikes
Or buff your damage window by 20%
See the logic?
olive nest
last question does this also apply to demolish in colossus
Yes
zealous pumice
Would you rather:
do 20% more damage on random cleaves and mortal strikes
Or buf...
well cleave is like 40% my overall so thats why i wasnt sure
well it and reap
olive nest
As colossus, Sometimes you will:
Cs + demo + rav
Cs+ demo + Ava
Cs + demo + Ava + rav
fierce hare
guys on which talents its best to learn arms m+ talents, ST talents slayer, or AOE Slayer?
on dummy
zealous pumice
@olive nest ty for the help time to gear the rat
olive nest
Anytime Glhf!
warm fog
As colossus, Sometimes you will:
Cs + demo + rav
Cs+ demo + Ava
Cs + demo + Ava ...
This is why I hope slarms stays viable
olive nest
guys on which talents its best to learn arms m+ talents, ST talents slayer, or A...
Select the talents you will be running in m+ and then go hit the ST target dummy for a while and then also go hit the aoe dummies for a while, both are important
fierce hare
oki
fierce hare
Select the talents you will be running in m+ and then go hit the ST target dummy...
and for raid/m+ slayer or colossus to start with?
im an arms newbie
olive nest
Slayer is easier both in raid and M+
still fox
and no bladestorm without cs?
mortal crag
Slayer is easier both in raid and M+
i had a cold take that slayer arms is genuinely the easiest iteration of warrior so far
slayer arms is easier than thane fury
and on par with slayer fury i guess
imo even slightly easier
olive nest
GUIDON OUTSIMS PUZZLEBOX
mortal crag
i got it like
week 1 and idnt even know
how nice it is
holy
i played fury w it til i got puzzle box
but
puzzle is cursed
its so cursed
olive nest
I could have taken it from vault week 1 but took shoulders instead to save 20 crests
latent moss
GUIDON OUTSIMS PUZZLEBOX
guidon is crazy
olive nest
mortal crag
i got just trinket
latent moss
100% cs uptime in guidon windows
vague monolith
is it normal also I dont see heroic strike?
Slam procs into heroic strike
latent moss
I could have taken it from vault week 1 but took shoulders instead to save 20 cr...
i didnt take it cause i thought it was shit
warm fog
Arms being able to do guidon from 1st boss and heart of ancient hunger from 2nd boss is pretty nice
olive nest
I’m 3rd in line for mythic one after DKs
deft bluff
We still ass?
olive nest
I will make a heroic pug with no str melee except me
Just incase
Tbh though I bet my 289 puzzib is still better tha 276 guidon
I should sim that
sharp goblet
counterpoint - then you have to use puzzle
olive nest
Maybe run guidon anyway for the vibes
latent moss
ijust hope i dont get puzzle box ever in vault honestly
i dont want it
im not gonna take it ever
dim basalt
latent moss
heart + guidon
olive nest
Puzzle box first vault and I took the bait
latent moss
(i have neither)
vague monolith
The 2 sec cast is buns I don’t want it either
olive nest
I should have just went ring
olive nest
Puzzle box is good I can’t deny it but it sucks to cast it no doubt
mortal crag
The 2 sec cast is buns I don’t want it either
its so fucking ass
mid boss etc
unless its a boss fight with forced downtime
it just feels so bad lol
and the 2s just makes u not feel like ur getting value from using it
olive nest
Very real
thick kelp
mid boss etc
mfw pbox comes up midway salhadaars spin mechanoc
olive nest
Idm that because I was holding damage for orbs anyway on my first kill
But yeah turbo ass for boss damage
tawdry girder
How much haste is too much? Floating at 950 at 269 ilvl
sacred summit
how much of an increase is arms’ funnel to the main/prio target given 3+ targets and 4set