#arms

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steep osprey
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lol

lethal acorn
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This build was pure dopamine, I might have to retire colossus...it's not what it once was during TWW season 2

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Reap the proc kinda fun to play when you have 20%+ haste

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Crushing combo also feels a lot better to use with Slayer for some reason

fresh spire
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Reap cleaves*

empty sluice
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arms owns

fresh spire
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i enjoy slayer much more, the reaps from cleave into Sd reaps into more cleave reaps gladge

stable fiber
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think my normal went kinda crazy

minor gust
stable fiber
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why are we private logging

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zzz

minor gust
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Having a lot of 360 aoe is nice

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When Colo is stuck with all frontals

stable fiber
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not really

empty sluice
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guild decision, not my

minor gust
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Keep dps on a leash

stable fiber
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ic

astral yarrow
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logs are still compared

lethal acorn
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Gonna be real specific here, Colo is way better for undead arms warrior rp though, your sword feels so weighty, I use sorrowbane so the combat animations look nice with the slow heavy hits that colossus offers, I am really liking Slayer now though, even though it makes my two hander look like a one hander in speed, so I'm kind of at crossroads here lol

astral yarrow
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wont leash dps

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speaking from experience xdd

nova marsh
minor gust
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Never been in a guild that private logged so that was always my guess

nova marsh
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How's arms goin

lethal acorn
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A lot better since we're getting some buffs every week

nova marsh
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Hell ye

thick kelp
old glacier
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What's the biggest chunkiest twohander one can use?

nova marsh
minor gust
cosmic halo
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Wdyt of futur slayer without reap for st ?

minor gust
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in its current form its a big ST loss but like no point really thinking about numbers as there is some obvious major tuning that will need to be done with these changes.

nova marsh
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Its also sexier then arma

minor gust
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guaranteed Slayers Strikes will just get buffed massively to compensate

minor gust
nova marsh
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Girth always win clueless

floral ledge
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is the overpower buff also buff dreadnaught ?

lethal acorn
astral yarrow
astral yarrow
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but sometimes the people writing patch notes and the people merging the branches are not the same

thick kelp
dire hinge
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skinnier but longer and has a little fun wrapping compared to Ashkandur

astral yarrow
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the things you go through to put illusion on it though

dire hinge
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the Timerunner's Greatsword is pretty sick too, but i dont personally have many mogs that go with it

latent moss
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i think its the lfr ashkandur

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the slightly pink one

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red pinkish

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hoooly peak

dire hinge
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that one?

nova marsh
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Lfr is blue

dire hinge
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that purple mythic one though chefkiss

latent moss
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u can put berserking and it glows a lil

old glacier
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Second question is what is the optimal gnome two-hander.🤔

dire hinge
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the Double-Bladed Garden Trowel easily

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put em back in the garden

tawdry quail
dire hinge
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pretty sure it was from legion timewalking

tawdry quail
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Ah

thick kelp
minor gust
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worst version sorry not sorry

latent moss
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xd

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this one

thick kelp
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this the normal one

thick kelp
latent moss
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ig this one is heroic then?

minor gust
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I usually use the normal or mythic versions

latent moss
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ye bro the lfr one aint it

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axaxaaxaxa

thick kelp
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silly hc weapon

old glacier
thick kelp
fresh spire
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still love these ones

thick kelp
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uldir ones r so good

old glacier
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I think the word is out. I'm getting plenty of accepts for keys.

thick kelp
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yeah I got plenty of invites too after I specced Prot

dire hinge
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honestly the one that's a broken elephant's skull i love deeply

nova marsh
dire hinge
minor gust
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whenever I pug I got no issue with invites. doesnt usually take longer than 5-10 minutes to find a group

slender sonnet
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is it just me or is crown of the osmos like insanely messy

old glacier
nova marsh
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Jokes aside it usually is early weeks for end bosses

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Well

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"End boss"

slender sonnet
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I cant type my cup of tea is in the way

dire hinge
nova marsh
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Or share?

slender sonnet
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come over and drink my tea

dire hinge
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👀 what kinda tea you got

slender sonnet
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it's amazing

slender sonnet
dire hinge
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i'd never heard of it, so admittingly my brain went to "Pro Gamer tips"

slender sonnet
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understandable

dire hinge
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was like, "damn okay, better than me i guess" 😂

slender sonnet
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Im notbetter than anyone

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kekw

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Im just here for the vibes

latent moss
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heart is yours

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ez

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are u doing like the sim droptimizer thing

thick kelp
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100% im heart prio I only got a normal one under me

thick kelp
latent moss
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so officers know who needs what

thick kelp
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smth smth

latent moss
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send an arms sim

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axxaaxxa

thick kelp
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1.3k wr

thick kelp
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ofc im sending arms sim

latent moss
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hooooooooly

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goat

minor gust
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Based

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im also progging all of mythic on arms

thick kelp
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ya think a lil mythic boss gonn make me play fury

latent moss
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esp this tier

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on bro

nova marsh
minor gust
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im basically guaranteed first heart because its bis for arms and no one else

astral yarrow
minor gust
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thats how I got heroic one

astral yarrow
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my asshole is giga clenched from 1:20 onwards

minor gust
nova marsh
minor gust
rose ibex
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hmmmm what build you guys think is best for dreamrift?

nova marsh
astral yarrow
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i can report

thick kelp
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with a lil more boss dam

nova marsh
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Damn blizz took a page from ffxiv and like blinding their players

rose ibex
slender sonnet
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Im struggling to beat our furys on cosmos

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But I'm very close

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they are playing cleave tho

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and Im playing pure st

minor gust
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They will have a much easier time padding in P1 its pretty hard to beat

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Just do as much as you can in P1 and blast in P2 and 3

dim basalt
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Playing Fury atm but Im thinking about going Arms next week

slender sonnet
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yup

rose ibex
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hmm i think my damage was better with regular slayer raid

thick kelp
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pad on the adds

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  • play colo
rose ibex
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my team seems to evaporate the adds

thick kelp
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unlucky

rose ibex
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in no time at all

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our second group is lacking dps tho

minor gust
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nice now go volunteer to go 2nd group and go colo

slender sonnet
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I just straight up think we dont have enough dps for the last boss

rose ibex
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people aren't killing the big guy fast enough

devout pewter
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Next Patch should make us machines for m+ again

rose ibex
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i've been pumping in m+

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once I get 4pc I think i'll be really strong

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it's only raid where i feel like I'm not pulling my weight

devout pewter
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yeah, I've been having fun in m+ already, only 2pc

rose ibex
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same 2pc felt like a good boost

devout pewter
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but that patch might solidify our position in m+ a bit more

minor gust
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the buff is minor especially for colo

rose ibex
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im happy with our aoe and m+ performance. Don't need top raid dps but I want just a bit more

minor gust
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Nice to get it but wont change too much

rose ibex
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it helps slayer which makes me happy

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spin spin spin

devout pewter
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Haven't been able to get a good try with slayer in, how is it compared to colossus?

minor gust
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its gonna do less than colo but its the most competitive its ever been with colo

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honestly not bad at all

slender sonnet
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I've been playing with puzzle box

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am I trolling

latent moss
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probably m+ bis

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bis in m+

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i meant

astral yarrow
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box can suck something grand

zinc wolf
icy mulch
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Out of left field for sure.

slender sonnet
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KEKWKEKWKEKWKEKWKEKWKEKWKEKW

icy mulch
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Hmm

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Loot do seem to be weird

slender sonnet
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what are ppl doing on boss 1 myth

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colo full adds?

steep osprey
steep osprey
zinc wolf
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Remememememememe

dim basalt
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Our ret did 30+ Seat runs for the Gloves and now got the myth Vorasius trinket because he had 2x Champ trinkets

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Im losing it

rose ibex
slow saddle
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I mean slayer is Fine in M+

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less Aoe more st

old glacier
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Damnit, Ashkandur didn't drop.

icy atlas
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Time to boost an alt

slow saddle
slender sonnet
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adds die too fast

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for me to do any damage

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xd

royal escarp
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hello warior, I have the impression that heroic strike cast alone am i wrong ???

rose ibex
vagrant aspen
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Big city cleave, poopoo ST

vapid spire
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I keep looking for Arms Warriors while doing groups but they all play fury

lethal acorn
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Sorrowbane for life!

clever crag
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hmmm

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seems arms is back in the game for m+ but ST raid still weaker than fury

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10k less for my sims

lethal acorn
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Arms likes crit/haste so it could be closer with the right secondary stats but I'm not sure

clever crag
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true that

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Im pretty haste/mast

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shitty trinks 260 ilvl and just 2p also

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I want arms to go ahead on ST so bad

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fury bores me

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only fun on aoe

slender sonnet
raw atlas
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we ballin

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we still need big ST buff

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i dont think tuesday buff will be enough

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its like 1.2% more dmg in keys

viscid oar
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The 5% difference in 2set buff is so discouraging from fury to arms

sharp wyvern
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discouraging ? the arms one is way stronger

viscid oar
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Am I blind?

lethal acorn
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cs gives our other abilities damage

viscid oar
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Maybe I was looking at it narrowmindedly

odd mesa
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both say 10% to 2 buttons you like to press, arms one just then also says 5% to everything else you do damage with too

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during CS ofc for the 10% to MS and Cleave

sharp wyvern
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it makes our burst stronger

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increasing dmg by like 3-4% during CS windows

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which is the dmg that matters most

viscid oar
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nodders I see I see

steep osprey
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If they nerf cleave, sure

lethal acorn
steep osprey
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Raid Is mostly aoe

lethal acorn
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THIS raid is

steep osprey
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They have to tune for that though lol

minor gust
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You will top boss dmg when tank pulls mobs onto boss for you

sharp wyvern
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thats not boss dmg thats pad

halcyon valve
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The banger is with 4set extending cs duration

minor gust
steep osprey
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That's funnel not pad

minor gust
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Being able to hit 3+ targets on a boss fight giga increases CS uptime + you got 50% increase slams/HS from fob

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It ends up being a pretty big gain

floral ledge
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raid slayer

obsidian otter
steep osprey
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That's not happening

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We're retaining our SD AoE reap

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They're only making it work on AoE though

lethal acorn
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and yeah, slayer changes kinda suck

steep osprey
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SD won't proc reap in ST but it will in aoe

lethal acorn
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That slightly sucks

minor gust
steep osprey
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I think they have/had an issue tuning reap like that

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So they made it only AoE

nova marsh
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Holy brick

steep osprey
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Knowing all these things

halcyon valve
minor gust
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Tbf doesn't take much just Everytime updates channel is lit up you check it

steep osprey
nova marsh
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I don't want puzzle

steep osprey
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Be glad you didn't get it

nova marsh
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I'm on rogue

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and we're still going

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OH

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LMAO

steep osprey
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Lmao

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Nah there's a new update

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You missed it

obsidian otter
steep osprey
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Why do you think frozenbozo's name is like that

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He saved us

obsidian otter
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I’ll have to look at post on new one I still have old one I was just doomed and gave up even looking anymore when they added it to PTR

lethal acorn
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Us? The only us I know is ColossUS

obsidian otter
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Did they keep the mortal wounds change ?

steep osprey
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No

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That's not a bad change

obsidian otter
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So slam wont proc it?

steep osprey
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Oh they did keep it lol

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I thought you said "did they change mortal wounds"

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My bad

steep osprey
slender sonnet
steep osprey
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I think that's a good change considering Cleave is already doing obscene damage

old glacier
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Using puzzlebox in M+ is starting to get pretty tiring.😅

steep osprey
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This is a good way of helping arms ST damage

obsidian otter
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So they want us to have no deep wounds in aoe

steep osprey
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Yeah

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So what?

old glacier
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Bring back deep wounds. Remove rend.

obsidian otter
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Idk about that change like why give two abilities single target mortal wounds

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It last 8s you will get more than 1 MS crit in single target in 8s

steep osprey
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I already mentioned why

lethal acorn
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Aoe rend is cool

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At least on arms, remove it from class tree and move it to arms tree maybe

tacit sandal
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Are we getting catalyst charge next reset?

steep osprey
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This could also give them a reason to buff Rend as an AoE bleed

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Not a bad change

old glacier
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Its just not super satisfying to press.

lethal acorn
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Colossus is all about bleed so I want rend and deep wounds both!

obsidian otter
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With less than 20% crit mortal wounds has almost 90% uptime so adding it to slam down make
Much sense as you will easily be at 100% uptime with 25-30% base crit

steep osprey
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Well, when it does good damage it will be

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Just like anything lol

minor gust
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It's one less AOE talent and opens up the path for more DW dmg buffs and make the DW from demolish more impactful.

obsidian otter
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Refreshing wounds doesn’t add more damage it just keeps the tic going

steep osprey
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They could make it add more damage with this slam change

lethal acorn
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I think they might keep demolish weak so they could buff colo ST

steep osprey
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And they can also buff it

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Since it's only ST now

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(demolish DW has a tuning knob)

lethal acorn
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Ideally they can just make the main demolish target take a second shockwave hit / take double damage

obsidian otter
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It also makes FoB like the main thing that adds deep wounds into AOE and MS cleaves but you barely MS cleave as slayer

steep osprey
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Why are you so worried about DW not being an AoE bleed

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I don't understand

obsidian otter
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Taking it away from cleave also hurts ourself healing in aoe situations pvp and pve

lethal acorn
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Rend in pvp is more healing over DW

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That's another reason I wanna keep rend

steep osprey
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Barely, and they can buff Rend as an AoE bleed

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It has that healing too

obsidian otter
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Maybe they are adding rend to cleave hence why they removing deep wounds from it 🤷‍♂️

steep osprey
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Maybe

lethal acorn
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Fusing buttons is lame

obsidian otter
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Fury getting rend added to whirlwind would make sense

lethal acorn
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Don't simplify my piano spec

steep osprey
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Something like Rend is pointless to the rotation

lethal acorn
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In your opinion

steep osprey
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Also wouldn't doing this mean using Cleave on ST to keep up rend?

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It's not happening lol

lethal acorn
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Keep Fury braindead and fuse rend to everything but I like Arms having multiple bleeds

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Warrior dps spec choices shouldn't be dumb and dumber

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I like the potential complexity of arms

obsidian otter
# steep osprey Something like Rend is pointless to the rotation

The issue is say slayer we don’t use cleave in single target other then over slam at 35% but we use rend in single target before that. if they add rend to cleave now we’re using cleave to apply rend. Where fury thy are adding rend to whirlwind and that usually is your fill button if you have nothing else to press or you happen to get no RB reset and BT is on CD no SD procs and not enough rage for ramp rampage

lethal acorn
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Rend has also been a thing since classic wow so removing it would be strange considering they made heroic strike return

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Keep it for Arms at least

obsidian otter
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Yeah I’m use to it same on fury because I’ve played arms so much. On fury you pretty much rend after reck ends and you use your first BT is when you rend. Then it’s just upkeep so not that big of issue.

steep osprey
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They have to do something about the abundance of our CDs next season

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Bake Ravager into Avatar as a passive

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When picked

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That's gonna help so much

lethal acorn
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I like pressing ravager too

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I want buttons

steep osprey
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You're an anomaly here lol

polar portal
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Just remove ravager

lethal acorn
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No

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I like having remornia

steep osprey
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You don't have to remove it. You can just make it work as a passive that throws a weapon down when you use Avatar

lethal acorn
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Lame

steep osprey
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Less lame than having to cast it in sequence along with other CDs

lethal acorn
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In your opinion

steep osprey
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And we already have a lot

lethal acorn
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Prot has passive ravager as a CHOICE node with regular ravager

steep osprey
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More than any spec in the game

steep osprey
polar portal
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I'm half memeing, I just don't like it being an option because I think bladestorm is an iconic part of arms' identity (but blizzard clearly thinks otherwise as bladestorm is also available to fury)

steep osprey
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Especially Colossus arms

lethal acorn
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And that's why I enjoy colossus arms

steep osprey
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Well, you're one of the few people who think arms having this many CDs is good

lethal acorn
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Leave my buttons alone

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I don't enjoy braindead gameplay

polar portal
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I'm actually shocked they didn't prune our CDs

steep osprey
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They did at first but walked back on it for whatever reason

lethal acorn
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It was me, I was the reason

steep osprey
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Maybe they realized it wasn't a feasible task

obsidian otter
steep osprey
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They could be doing it in a future patch

polar portal
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Blizzard just gave fury everything that made arms arms

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Now the specs feel too similar

lethal acorn
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Colossus Arms is arms arms

steep osprey
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They don't feel similar at all to me

lethal acorn
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Slarms is rogue arms

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Slarms and Slurry are gonna both feel similar tho tbf

lone yarrow
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slayer fury is full gas energy though

obsidian otter
lone yarrow
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arms slayer does go up on execute wdym

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are you doing the EP rotation?

obsidian otter
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If your running raid build sure it does but in mythic plus you can’t can’t afford execute like raid build

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Where fury raid build is same as its mythic plus build 1 talent change

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Doesn’t affect execute at all for fury

polar portal
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At some point in time pressing thunder clap to spread bleeds was an arms thing

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Now we don't even do that

lethal acorn
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I prefer aoe rend to lame thunder clap

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TC to me feels so weird outside of prot war

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or thane hero

blissful plinth
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Hey guys, has colossus rotation changed in any way after the latest hotfixs?

obsidian otter
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Slayer fury in reck is pretty much Bloodbath Ramp ramp bloodbath and weaving SD procs before Ramp if they proc. I like it a lot builds berserk stacks so fast and makes BS hit even harder with enrage and like 7-9 stacks of berserk

upper sparrow
obsidian otter
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Not to mention the Bloodbaths going off that hit for 80-90k during BS vs MS hits during BS

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Bloodbath should not be hitting as hard as it does compared to MS. Even fully stacked MS with hero weapon 2xEP and 3x MP hits for not even 200k unless your running then 50% after BS talent and even then it has to crit

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Compared to seeing my Bloodbath hit for 95k without any buffs other then enrage

lethal acorn
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MS hits hard with Colossus

polar portal
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Yeah, fury is supposed to be the hack and slash option that's fast paced but doesn't hit as hard

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Which doesn't even make sense considering you have 2 two-handers

lethal acorn
polar portal
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I'm not complaining

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I'm just saying the theme doesn't match the aesthetic

lethal acorn
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You can complain

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I'll defend ravager as an option until death for colossus arms

obsidian otter
# lethal acorn 1h transmog option

Yeah it’s not the visual thing they mean I get it because I play both at en game they just mean how it’s suppose to play what it actually is doing

lethal acorn
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bladestorm is only fun in pvp!

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(imo)

polar portal
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I find slayer pretty fun

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Would feel better with fewer rage problems, but it's fun

obsidian otter
polar portal
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Feels similarish to how arms was played before we had hero talents

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Colossus feels like something else

lethal acorn
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Colossus feels like a two hander in dark souls 1, big meaty hits, even with tons of haste

polar portal
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Yeah I can see why some would like it

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I just don't like casting/channeling things as a melee

lethal acorn
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Yeah I like demolish too

astral yarrow
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Demolish can suck a fat one

lethal acorn
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Makes me feel like Aatrox from league

astral yarrow
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Nobody liked fyralath- let’s make it a hero talent

minor gust
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real

lethal acorn
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Way better than Fyr (Once they fixed the tank pulling mobs away from the channel)

astral yarrow
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How is it in any capacity better. It just lacks the charge, which was never useful anyway

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I guess the first 2 hits cleave with sweep

shadow ibex
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they had that fiery axe thing

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and decided to give us the bad leggo

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demolish should have been plunderland axe or w/e that fortnite event was

lethal acorn
shy oyster
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Imagine Demolish was just a warrior version of convoke. But it's all just one ability.

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And that ability is smash.

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So you smash the floor 20 times.

lethal acorn
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It's such a cool button to me

shy oyster
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We aren't too smart to consider what would happen if it was an array of abilities.

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Let's just commit to our innate hulk.

obsidian otter
polar portal
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That was terrible

shadow ibex
lethal acorn
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If Slam was a 45 sec major cooldown, no one would complain about slam cast in classic

shadow ibex
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and its annoying with a slow cast

obsidian otter
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I still hate using shattering throw in arena because of that

shadow ibex
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the animation sped up looks so dumb

lethal acorn
shadow ibex
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loses all of the impact when the cast is hasted and it looks like youre carving a fish

lethal acorn
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3rd hit always looks good tho, no?

shadow ibex
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i need that kind of smash

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i want people to know demolish was used

lethal acorn
shy oyster
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we build it up.

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we wind it up.

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then BANG.

lone raft
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let me just give you a little poke before the battle starts

lethal acorn
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Aoe rend is kinda cool tho, thunderclap was lame

lone raft
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all our abilities should just cause rend innately imo

lethal acorn
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Nah

polar portal
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Why do you like aoe rend and dislike thunder clap

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I do not understand

lethal acorn
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Fury can be the lazy no button spec

obsidian otter
polar portal
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It's effectively the same thing

lethal acorn
lone raft
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fury can thunderclap rend with 100% uptime

lethal acorn
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Why does lightning cause bleeds

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It was all so lame

lone raft
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I don’t understand the fantasy of needing to pre bleed my target

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when Imm wielding a giant 2 hander

polar portal
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Though I think the idea is that you're just stomping really hard

lethal acorn
lone raft
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it should just start bleeding when doing damge like a rogue poison

shy oyster
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idk, i guess you stomp so hard ur opponent's feet explode and they start bleeding or something idk

odd ledge
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i wish colossus smash had the evoker eruption animation

minor ivy
untold pewter
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What the helly is "S tier" man

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For m+ sims are not 100%

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Puzzlebox can definitely boost your burst but

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It all depends on pulls and all else

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So the best is to test both yourself

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With how your keys are being done

odd ledge
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puzzlebox is cointrolled on demand dmg increase

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i lub it

lethal acorn
untold pewter
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Yeah like imagine your tank is doing the full tree room in AA
box is amazing there cuz you know you can just juice up your burst

Now imagine it's a weaksauce tank doing 2 packs a time

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Not as hot

verbal pivot
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Hi just came back to Midnight after a long time, have a question about Rend. Back then we used to apply with thunderclap, but I don't see it being used anymore. Do we just apply it one by one or with Sweeping in an aoe situation?

untold pewter
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Rend is aoe

odd ledge
verbal pivot
untold pewter
lethal acorn
#

TC would've been way cooler in TWW if Colossus got yellow lightning and Slayer got red lightning

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But I'll take aoe rend, which is better than lame lightning on my warrior

midnight kettle
#

I would rather rend just be gone lol. Why does arms need deep wounds and rend? Rather just put more damage on deep wounds instead of rend being a separate button needed to press

lethal acorn
#

Stomping the ground only looks good with a shield

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(prot)

sacred hatch
#

Hey, I saw this macro getting posted here couple days ago
/use [known:Heroic Strike] Heroic Strike; Mortal Strike
Does it actually make any difference instead of just using MS and HS separately?

polar portal
#

Bring the amirdrassil tier set bonus back as talents, that way we can just apply rend with execute

lethal acorn
obsidian otter
tawdry stratus
#

thats hilarious

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casually reading just to see that pop up lol

obsidian otter
#

Right 😂

sacred hatch
#

okay so my other question is do I pop HS before MS with 2 stack of Executioner's precision or does MS with 2 stacks always take priority over HS?

sand totem
#

HS would buff your MS for what its worth

sacred hatch
#

And should I also use overpower for my MS with 2 stacks of Executioner's precision or should I just go with 2 executes and then MS if Im playing with Martial Prowess?

rapid minnow
#

am i trippin or is the apex talent only bffing cs?

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so like slayer gets no bfuf from the 4th apex?

lethal acorn
#

Slayer Arms likes overpower more than Colossus Arms, especially if you play Opportunist

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So they get that from points 2 and 3, 4th buffs CS for both heroes

rapid minnow
#

im trippin nvm

latent moss
#

algethar isnt real

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whoever

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made all these changes

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should get shot

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genuinely

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what a disgusting dungeon

obsidian otter
#

You won’t ever have 3 stacks of MP and 2x EP per MS use it’s more of a mix depending on SD procs sometimes you get 2x SD and 1 OP/HS into a MS or sometimes it’s 2xOP 1X HS/slam into MS depending on procs

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Easier way to remember it’s 3 globals per MS use. And then just remember priority SD>HS>OP>Slam for those 3 globals or rend upkeep

nova marsh
#

I fucking hate AA

whole escarp
#

im new to warrior is there a way to track the apex heroic strike proc without having to look at my action bar constantly

unkempt plaza
#

guys

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would you rather take a myth track piece or a heroic gaze

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from vault

nova marsh
whole escarp
nova marsh
#

Oh if you are I have no idea

sand totem
nova marsh
#

I mean

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It's not going too well for me keks

sand totem
#

Solidarity brother

abstract sphinx
#

any advice lads? low key +9 Pit of Sauron and tank wasn't that experienced so not optimal route just fyi

latent moss
#

looks ok

lunar acorn
#

where will the buff put us next week guys in terms of single target dmg ? As thane i sim 80k single target as arms i sim 57k dps thats a massive difference. both sims are m+ talents

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anyone did the numbers 😄

polar portal
#

Fury does better ST than Arms with AoE talents

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The buffs won't change that

lunar acorn
#

is the aoe damage that much better though on arms to make up for bad boss damage ?

polar portal
#

Probably depends but colossus is doing some insane AoE right now

chilly copper
#

Always refreshing to check in here while unsubbed just to see the state of warrior

lunar acorn
#

the issue i have is in my opener i do not have enough rage to do the opener proeprly i am rage starving instantly and can sometimes not even get off the 4 cleaves in a row mentioned in the opener rotation for aoe

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am i doing something wrong ?

latent moss
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pool rage by charging early

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and just autoattacking

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usually u only have to do this on the first pull of the key

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usually u have rage from the last pack

sand totem
#

Heys lads. So for ST, I'm following the wowhead stat prio of crit>haste>>mastery>vers.

But when I check with the Sim stat weight calculator it tells me that haste is almost double crits worth. But I also know that the stat weight calc is notoriously unreliable. Anyone found a nice sweet spot for their secondaries?

lunar acorn
#

alright

sand totem
latent moss
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ye if u want the mob to turn to you and explode you

sand totem
#

LMAO okay yeah fair point

lunar acorn
#

i mean yeah i should be able to pool some rage before the tank

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gathered everything

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and wait until i send

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but sometimes we just instantly go like first pull terrace

latent moss
#

i usually delay my opener if i dont have rage

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i dont wanna waste time in cds

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sure u can fill with op but its 100% a big dps loss

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u want to make sure u can spam cleave and ms in cds

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keep cs up with tierset on the prio mob

restive widget
#

yo is arms supposed to be bottom dps on bosses or am I just ass

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im so carried by aoe

lunar acorn
#

is there a scenario where we press cleave or prio cleave over something else in singletarget or 2 target fights?

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i just saw that in the guide it puts cleave during ravager over slam, overpower and execute for singletarget. why is that ?

polar portal
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Forced to pick between ST or AoE

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Can't be helped

lunar acorn
#

nvm i should read the spell maybe ^^

untold matrix
#

yo with the addon nuke is it still possible to make a macro that will call out how much dmg ive done with a successful spell reflect in chat or no?

rare kite
jagged finch
#

Is it just me or our burst feels disgusting low, like 70k-80k at best with lust on ST

sand totem
#

We've always been a bit of a sustained dps class

untold matrix
#

i love when our strong suit is the execute phase

sudden owl
#

is raidbots nightly reflecting the buffs yet?

slender sonnet
#

that's really sad

sand totem
#

You didnt get enough PIs
Blame your priest. Not your fault king

latent moss
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i have a 0

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i died in p2 gg

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to rot

slender sonnet
slender sonnet
# latent moss not bad

tbh, i stopped trusting people to do mechanics properly so I'd be leaping out and sitting waaay out of melee tomake sure they got done

latent moss
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gg dmg

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im max turbo greed

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in raid

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refused to dstance maybe could've lived

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but i aint dstancing on heroic

idle sail
#

Execute is still does damage? Or like pyroblast just regular filler? I mean in modern warrior’s gameplay

minor ivy
#

Where's the guy who said arms ST isn't that bad

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Arms simming -25k below fury for me

nova marsh
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They were coping

latent moss
#

on reset arms is gonna be a couple % behind fury

minor ivy
#

not on ST surely

latent moss
#

obv fury still superior in raid cause thane is a hero talent of all time

minor gust
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I assume hes talking about M+ ST

latent moss
#

bla bla m+ colo st

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legit astro gaps fury on aoe

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its nowhere near close

minor gust
nova marsh
#

Just pad harder and beat the furies

latent moss
#

pull 2 mobs on boss and arms gaps fury on boss too

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and gaps it hard

nova marsh
#

I mean that's cheating keks

latent moss
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on boss damage

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not dmg done to all 3 targets

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just the boss

shy dew
#

its only me or will still need like 2-3 weeks of buff in single

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to have a decent ST

olive nest
#

Funnel gaming

latent moss
#

ur prio dmg doubles if u have 2 adds

minor gust
#

wanted funnel finally got it, Losing tier gonna suck

latent moss
#

legit the only thing arms is worse at is raw st

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gaps fury everywhere else

minor ivy
#

how do i sniff the BS out from the real shit in class discords

latent moss
#

👍clueless

olive nest
#

Hang around long enough to notice which individuals know what they’re talking about

latent moss
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u can run a st quick sim and a 3t quick sim go to html report and look at prio dmg in the title

minor gust
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🐐

latent moss
#

for me it goes from 60 to 125

olive nest
#

FoB gaming

latent moss
#

tier + cm + fob + collat

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a lot of things

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the way arms is designed rn i dont think we will ever have good st

minor gust
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in M+ yeah

olive nest
#

Well they simply can’t

latent moss
#

ye

olive nest
#

It would be giga broken otherwise lmao

latent moss
#

arms does almost double furys prio dmg btw

minor gust
#

M+ ST is at the mercy of raid ST if we are tuned strong for raid ST then our M+ ST will be mid and passable

latent moss
#

not to mention if fury plays thane and just spams tc

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in a big pull

olive nest
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Oh I know I’ve been playing it almost exclusively in keys besides the first day xD

latent moss
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🐐

olive nest
#

Arms fuks

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Jacleava

latent moss
#

depleted 17 algethar and 2 16s

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kanker dungeon

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JA CLEAVA

olive nest
#

🐐

oblique jay
#

hey guys, im new to warrior, and i want to main arms but i dont seem to find a single guide about rotation. Can someone help me with a quickguide?

olive nest
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Wowhead is a good place to start

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Then simply ask away in here

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Arms gang is happy to help

latent moss
#

always 👍

oblique jay
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ohh okey, i played encha shami since tbc, and most of the time i noted, wowhead wasnt that good. Ima start reading it then and get back if i dont get smt! Thank you very much! 😄

olive nest
#

The wowhead author also is a mod here and is very active

oblique jay
#

ohh nice

sage bison
#

trash in raid

latent moss
#

xdd

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delete this fast

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gatekeep it

proud schooner
#

whatd you reflect lol

olive nest
#

🤫

sage bison
#

normally against gatekeeping tech but ya i will, arms needs something l0l

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and the fun police will 100% nerf

minor ivy
#

Can't fury do that too?

sage bison
#

prob

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and prot

olive nest
#

It’ll get nerfed regardless lol

#

Might last longer though

sage bison
#

its the biggest caster mob after first boss

latent moss
#

wait is it not on boss

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gg

sage bison
#

no lmao just trash

#

arms would never be useful on a boss

quiet bramble
#

Best race animation/mog for arms? monkahmm

red cove
#

Question, how does the 4 set work? Does it just not do anything on single target? Because it you can't even hit three targets and you can't hit more than two with mortal strike?

spiral abyss
#

is there a sim of the upcoming tuning

minor gust
red cove
#

Oooooooooooh

dense sphinx
quiet bramble
#

Arms kinda feels empty in ST, idk how to describe it seramore

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Unless it’s execute phase

dense sphinx
#

wdym

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dont even have enough rage to hit execute in every available gcd

vapid pivot
#

Dumb question, if I am playing coll, on pull with lust. Do I just fuck off pressing MS as much as I can to get 10 stacks THEN all CDs and demolish?

dire hinge
gentle gyro
#

Feels like Demolish does no damage

dire hinge
#

it does about the same as MS, it's not bad

gentle gyro
#

😁

dire hinge
#

The demo into cleave spam skyrockets your dps to the moon hmmNod

minor gust
#

F we killed Chimaerus when I got the most mechanics ever

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Mythic aln dropped at least

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Damn bro only 6 of us

nova marsh
#

Hey guys

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How does arms do vs Viceroy for the tentacles?

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Easy SR + Dstance I assume?

rare kite
#

colossus pretty tanky

nova marsh
#

...damn

rare kite
#

it's the balls that hurt

empty sluice
nova marsh
#

I mean the balls always hurt

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Balls suck

minor gust
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if I didnt get 2 dispells and a swap in that pull Im at 100k ez on that kill

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was big sadge

rare kite
#

yea never felt in danger unless hit by balls. then i just press defensives and an IV

#

bingchilling

empty sluice
#

Yea ive been lucky with sd procs on adds Condemn

nova marsh
#

I did it in a 10 on rogue

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It was literally if your add dosen't die in 5 seconds flat without cloak GGs ur dirt nappin

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They didn't exaggerate rogue being the squishest class in the game holy....Gimme my warr back

minor gust
minor gust
#

boss hitbox makes SS pretty forgiving

empty sluice
#

Didnt go with powerful

minor gust
empty sluice
#

I tried some pulls but i found cleave fob better

minor gust
#

ill try it next week then

nova marsh
#

Next week is warr gaming

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For DMF buff to power level

nova marsh
#

God I remeber when we had the meme fob build in df s3

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Lowkey good times on brh okayge

empty sluice
#

Tbf slarms reminds me df s3 a bit

nova marsh
#

Yeah

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Its the sd procs

empty sluice
#

Thats why i like it i guess

minor gust
#

yeah I didnt try with fob will give it a shot next time. Tho again I woulda been around 100k

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if I didnt get mechanics

empty sluice
#

Try fob on first too

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You dont really need bloodsurge tho

minor gust
#

yeah bloodsurge not needed

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were you going down first or 2nd on Chim?

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I was going down first so I was being a bit silly and holding cds for adds. to pad a lil

slow saddle
empty sluice
#

Yea

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Unfortunately our guild is doing private logs sadge

nova marsh
#

RIP

vale gorge
#

ST in MM is so painfull

slow saddle
#

Rip how am i to show my rl its fair to be arms

slow saddle
vale gorge
#

Compare to [insert any spec name]

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(I play colossus)

stable fiber
minor gust
thick kelp
minor gust
#

topped in boss dmg too

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was last boss

thick kelp
#

oly

minor gust
thick kelp
#

Would maybe play extra sweep dam

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key by key case tho

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since slayer ST is not so reliant on ME

minor gust
#

maybe cleave still does ok dmg

thick kelp
#

deffo

minor gust
#

but yeah could potentially drop it

#

This was overall

thick kelp
#

oly reap procs

minor gust
#

yeah reap fucks

#

I swear slayer is pretty dam decent in keys right now. Like if you are bad at colo just play slayer

thick kelp
#

and then its gonna die in 0.5

minor gust
#

lots of 360 aoe carrying

rare kite
minor gust
thick kelp
#

next to cleave

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and yeah CT is potent

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for St

rare kite
#

might give slayer a try. do good overall as colossus but no shaman makes me want to die

thick kelp
minor gust
rare kite
#

in seat specifically grab this. removes the shackles

#

big good

minor gust
#

its ok i had bladestorm!

rare kite
#

tru tru

#

can also meld it off if nelf

lean drum
#

does anyone know where that macro for heroic strike that makes it go over mortal strike is?

#

cant find it in any of t he pins

safe jay
#

#showtooltip
/use [known:Heroic Strike] Heroic Strike; Mortal Strike

obsidian otter
#

relentless pursuit

rare kite
#

ah ye tru, forgot slayer has that. not played slayer in m+ for a loooong time

obsidian otter
#

its really only thing you need for roots if your playing slayer

short spear
#

Will the execute buffs make it go up in priority?

cobalt lodge
#

Can you get loot on both lfr and normal dificulty in the same lockout?

cobalt lodge
#

Ty!

safe jay
#

its per difficulty

cobalt lodge
#

Awesome

minor gust
#

still caught up to the rogue

thick kelp
#

damage aint beans

#

bladestorm is

minor gust
#

real

thick kelp
#

but after reset

#

lowkey Slayer>colossus

minor gust
#

its a vibe tho so relaxing playing slayer over colo

obsidian otter
#

its why i play it lol

minor gust
#

already kinda feels like you can play either

lone raft
#

arm buffs go live tuesday?

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I can't wait man

rare kite
#

yes, or wednesday if eu

old glacier
#

Gah, when the tank dies in your key so he starts pulling scared. And you know you wont time.😭

#

How come the crucible trinket is simming so well for me?

thick kelp
#

cuz its a good trinket (if you upgrade it fully like in the sim)

old glacier
#

Have any of you used the crooked hook or oozing vestige in m+ to any success?

#

Used vestige in a couple m+. It only resulted in something like 1% of my damage.

minor ivy
#

Is there a resource that shows which dungeons arms is best at?

empty sluice
thick kelp
minor ivy
#

my sims are ppl too

thorn stream
minor gust
#

Everytime I decide to do a slayer key I just don't wanna go back to playing colo

#

I'm so burnt out of it from TWW

thorn stream
#

agreed

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also colo clunky here and there

rare kite
nocturne needle
#

Is it still fury > colo > slayer then or is it close enough to mix it up if you have no pref

minor gust
elder zealot
#

Colossus is fantastic during trash, but man once you get to single-target bosses...

minor gust
#

Play slayer and be good at both

elder zealot
#

It goes from the most fun in the game to the most depressing

rare kite
#

yup. every seat i do i see my stacks drop after 3rd boss...

#

nothing i can do either

#

it's okay got my gloves now. out of seat jail

elder zealot
#

That cantrip proc on those gloves does like 0.2% damage overall or something 😂

minor gust
#

I wasn't even farming the gloves but I got them at some point

elder zealot
#

Yeah, and weirdly enough, I think it's gonna be the only way for us to trigger the effect from the neck from Alleria

rare kite
#

just regular 289 hands vs seat 276 is within margin st for me. prob coz i have alleria neck as well

elder zealot
#

Oh nice, does the neck effect trigger from the gloves proc?

rare kite
#

according to sims yes. not actually tried them out yet

#

just logged out once i got the gloves

brittle rock
#

because arms clearly wasnt descrete enough, his AoE and single target builds are basicly the same and need a bit more distinguish!

oblique lodge
#

why is biz so good

#

yo @thick kelphow's arms feeling with 4p?

thick kelp
oblique lodge
cobalt lodge
#

im a bit confused; it says to craft a weapon for arms (checking for an alt) but i only have 3 sparks?

jovial hare
#

you should have 4

oblique lodge
#

for the 4th free spark

cobalt lodge
#

well i currently only have 3; i guess i need to do some weeklies?

oblique lodge
#

form the world tour quest

cobalt lodge
oblique lodge
#

yes

cobalt lodge
#

what

#

i skipped the campaign

#

so you just lose a 4th spark then?

oblique lodge
#

u have to do the campaign for the world tour quest

cobalt lodge
#

yes i have done the campaign on my main lol

#

i skipped it on my alt

slate crest
#

You need to do the world tour quest on alt

jovial hare
#

i still havent completed the world tour quest on any of my toons and im caught up

tight wing
#

I have 5 sparks total

solar lichen
#

Anyone else on the 3 paladin boss on mythic that have some tips?

jovial hare
midnight quail
cobalt lodge
#

yeah im working on that atm and reminded that the defend the runestone quest is fucking awful

spring vale
#

I think Stormarion Assault is worse

quick badge
#

Wait, is slayer really viable in m+? Cuz colo feels like ass in ST

slow saddle
#

What is viable 2 u?

#

Ive run 10-12s np with good dmg in pugs

old glacier
#

Just run with an UH DK and ele shaman. Problem solved.

#

Also, good lord brewmaster does a lot of damage in keys.

shy oyster
#

yah, Brewmaster eating before they stop existing again.

topaz python
#

?? on arms is quite fun tho
really had to tinker some things in talents and use literally every ability to kill him
cool expirience

timber drift
#

Arms > fury or no?

brittle rock
tacit crystal
brittle rock
#

not divine toll hard, but still

timber drift
#

@tacit crystal tyvm

brittle rock
brittle rock
#

F

#

blizzard made a lot of specs way more convenient to play in midnight, guess arms was late for the convenience bus, huh

thick kelp
#

no

topaz python
#

blizz just cant allow themselves to make cleave baseline ability and consolidate some talents into one so we do not have to respec a half of a tree to just deal sligtly more damage in AoE than best classes while having literally half of their dps in ST

shy oyster
#

still stuck in sl, investing in either aoe or shit st :3

brittle rock
#

if execute hit 2+ targets

topaz python
#

but alas
colo is fucking good in keys in aoe
stacking colo might while tank is running to pull is a pleasure

brittle rock
#

how to stack it without the mobs?

brittle rock
#

ah

topaz python
#

i just really hope they change MS to give 2 stacks baseline and 4 on crit no matters do you have SS active or not

#

that would greatly help with ST

topaz python
shy oyster
#

when many more specs were between choosing to go aoe or st is what i meant where arms is at rn 😂

topaz python
#

it's fun to see my wife playing devourer DH and her's build dont ever change whether we do keys or raid

shy oyster
#

yeah i've kind of moved on to prot warrior and moved my dps elsewhere... for the moment >.>

#

ive full confidence arms will catch up. they just missed the bus is all

atomic mountain
#

what is the difference between slayer and colossus in m+? it feels like collo ST is like 0 and slayer overall is only abit lower than collo

astral yarrow
#

if you can get slayer overalls close to colossus, you are gods gift to arms

#

i guess pugs dont pull stuff onto bosses

atomic mountain
ocean marlin
#

why is there a execute prio, do we get a buff when <35%(20%?) enemie hp?

astral yarrow
#

KOLOSSALES SCHMETTERN

ocean marlin
#

oh no

#

xd

astral yarrow
#

Why would execute not be on a priority list? SD execute is free damage

#

its not like you are swimming in rage as colossus

#

HELDENHAFTER STOẞ

ocean marlin
#

in the first list exe is lower in prio, why is it higher when at 20%

ocean marlin
astral yarrow
#

You are still playing Executioner's Precision even in the aoe colossus build

ocean marlin
#

i just cant find the reason we benefit from execute phase

astral yarrow
#

are you looking at ST or?

ocean marlin
#

oh

#

ye

astral yarrow
#

you are, idk if thats intentional or not

ocean marlin
#

but still, i dont get why execute is a higher prio when in execute

#

i dont get the benefit of execute when executephase

shut token
#

Is it better to bind heroic strike to mortal strike or Overpower? Or does it not matter?

#

If i want to use that macro

misty bridge
#

I wouldn’t use it at all, but of the 2 I think OP would be better

astral yarrow
chilly wind
#

we good now?

shut token
fresh spire
#

With the changes this week its worth to execute on cd now in colossus even more so with buff next week

ocean marlin
#

ok will adept

#

thx guys

umbral badger
#

yo guys, i tried 1-2 m+ runs with slayer arms and it felt like the AoE is much weaker, anyone got experience with it ? i went from like an average of 140k-180k overall as colossus to like 120k as slayer

#

and that was hard even

livid cloak
#

180k overall?

umbral badger
#

depends on dungeon you can pull more

livid cloak
#

Dubious

umbral badger
#

biz had a youtube run at like 200k almost

#

the legend biz

#

feels like nerfing cleave is actually giga bad for slayer

astral yarrow
#

design wise no, niche wise yes

umbral badger
#

so now i feel like they should just rebuff cleave and remove it from practiced strikes for colossus 🤣

astral yarrow
#

cleave was and still is pretty all encompassing

sharp wyvern
#

how about we nerf cleave but buff reap feelycraft

umbral badger
astral yarrow
#

but he sounded like it was all he needed xd

sharp wyvern
#

they made reap proc from cleave in the .5 patch

#

i think either cleave or reap will sufferr

umbral badger
#

but no no i was thinking if they removed cleave from practiced strike without the nerf they could have been able to buff practiced strike as pure ST scaling instead

#

and then slayer won't suffeer from cleave nerfs

sharp wyvern
#

on lower keys my reap does more than cleave on slayer

#

this was an 11 misara

umbral badger
#

even my mortal almost passed my cleave as slayer

sharp wyvern
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the overall on slayer looks like a much better dmg breakdown

ocean marlin
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do i use cleave >2 targets?

sharp wyvern
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even on bosses

umbral badger
ocean marlin
umbral badger
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colossus we use cleave even ST

ocean marlin
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oh

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lol ok

umbral badger
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just take a look at bizentein stream and you will see how he does it for example

sharp wyvern
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cleave>slam on collosus

umbral badger
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like it's fine if you slam above 35% for more heroic strikes but it's a crime to not cleave at or below 35% or during ravager

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@ocean marlin

shrewd adder
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Anyone tried PTR reap the storm changes ?

umbral badger
sharp wyvern
umbral badger
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time to eat food and then spam MGT until raid time

main wing
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Just realized how muxh colossus would fuck with unhinged lol