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We are not many.
But we are brave.
We slaughter our enemies with great passion.
Only to serve our own will.
Bodybuilding is a req. in order to play Warrior good
So hop on the gym and then into the game boys
Ok Lorgok
hey. i am forced to do dps in raid today. ánything changed to last addon as arms?
Oh thats why im ass
played arms in season 1 and 2 so i am familiar with the spec there
rend and cs are aoe by default
single target is crappy doodoo
just follow wowhead then?
yeah
First boss and paladin bosses you can probably go m+ colossus build, and the rest slayer raid is better
kk thx
Sad
I'm so glad the slayer notes got changed on the ptr. Been enjoying it so much in m+.
Hes the only warrior dps who can probably get a kill on paladins now
method and liquid dont have a dps warr in comp
proof Revvez is the GOAT
What lvl is this
U reckon slayer will be better to farm 10s?
Then i imagine so…
Is Fury really so far ahead to arms? My M+ build sims (Fury with arms stats) tell me 50k vs 67k in ST
so far from my experience
colo arms > thane fury > slayer arms
im farming 10s, a few 12 here and there
for keys
colo does the most overall damage by far
fury is better for ST if you care about that
slayer is just bad
like yeah you get like 5% for st compared to colo but like 20% less aoe
not worth the hussle
5? I get like 15.
I get a decent chunk more ST from Slayer in keys
Im too UNCed out to farm as fury 2 - 3 keys max before i wanna pass away
Ofc! Colossus does little more than tank dmg in ST
the thing is
theres not much pure st in this season
you are cleaving like every second boss
yeah I did 1 key as fury and crashed out immediately back to arms
What is your build mate? Are you using the same class and spec talents from col m+? Just changing the hero spec to slayer?
Real
i swapped momentum and mass execution for OF+MP in colo and st is just fine, probably thats why i dont see much difference with slayer
it still sims 20% more than slayer in aoe even with this build
You have prio targets in every pull that have to die quickly
im not 100% sure but i think if we are talking about priority damage in aoe scenario colo might still be better
as slayer you spend eternity spinning in your bladestorm effectively doing zero prio damage, your fervor 'funnel' is worse since slam hits harder in colo etc
slayer is just better in 'long pure st fight'
which is really like 10% of content right now
pls dont cope about slayer
i mean if you really like the spec go for it, its viable
but its not better
pull trash onto boss and colarms is suddenly looking good 
You spin 1x per pull, rest is SSing Executes, MS and HSs.
you are still mostly cleaving and overpowering as slayer
and spending sd procs
you dont really even press normal execute
in aoe
its way less prio damage than you think
thanks mate!!
may i ask what is SSing and HSs?
you certainly are not spending majority of your pull ssing executes
and even if you did it wouldnt matter cuz executes damage is so weak
Sweeping Strikes & Heroic Strike
And your argument is silly as colossus spends a whole lot of time sweeping mortal strikes and OP's
whilst also having fob
ah i see! thank you sir!
Also demolish first two hits are ST so technically thats even more funnl
and u sweep those two hits aswell
Way more than Colossus through tons of sudden death procs
Slayer MS generally hits harder than Colossus MS
so now you are just lying
It is cause of more Executes
slayer ms hits like a wet noodle
Slayer has 1 MS amp in fierce followthru
+70% MS dmg?
you mean EP?
Yes
Colossus has EP aswell :)
Sure but you don‘t press Execute that much
increased amount of SD procs will not offset the fact that colo ms hits 20% harder baseline
but it doesnt!
also guaranteed crit after demolish
Why are we even discussing this? Sim your Colossus and your Slayer build in ST. Slayer will win by far.
MS HS slam everything does 20% more
also cleave hits like a truck in colo
if we are still talking 'prio damage in aoe'
you press more MS than slayer, your cleave does much more damage to a prio target (as well as all the other targets, but still), you fervor HS hits more
and slayer has like what
1.5 times more sd procs?
St is not funnel XD
w/e im not continuing this converstaion
ST is prio dmg
this guy is clueless
5T pull for 2mins Colossus deals 135k dps to its maintarget vs Slayer dealing 123k dps to its main target
I can literally sim this
to prove you wrong
i can tell that you never did a key higher than 10 based on this sentence
so colossus has more prio/funnel what ever u want to call it
on a pure ST boss in a key then slayer is better
absolutely exited to get back to arms after my hands hurts from being fury. whats our core rotation (collossus) nowadays?
but anything else is just colossus >>
wowhead guide
is it up to date?
yes
thanks! 🙂
I need to do more delves
Than why is Colossus trash at ST fights?
Because ST fight is Single (1) target
funnel / prio means that there is multple (2-10) targets to hti
where one (1) has to die fast
I promise you I'll only get a tier piece from my tier 1 delve
massive difference
do more delves then

funnel would also mean that multiple targets would increase your damage to a single target
spriest generate more resources from having dots on multiple targets as an example
arms gets 4set + fob + collat + bloodsurge
prolly has more
but arms actually has funnel now
tho i dont think it scales past 3t
vanguard anyone?
good to know tbh
Hmm col actuallly not that clunky i keys
4set is crazy
you're insane
ye colo is insane in m+
Regarding those PTR changes for warrior, when should we expect them being implemented in the game?
a month or so
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hm
is wrecking throw too good on most m+?
i usually dont run it
fearless goes CRAZY tho
is colo any different from tww s2/s3?
or is it the same?
Why did I craft all my stuff with fury missives?! 😡
Just read the wowhead guide madge
Am I cooked?
the Qol of Col improved massively imo
axaxaxaax
i meant rotationally
Autocast SS on WB, Demolish was improved aswell
butu said cleave on st
triple cleave after WB is fun I guess
uhm akshually its quadruple cleave 🤓
U hs> ms>op>cleave r in st
TRUE
Just slammed 11 seat and demolished the other two dps, I think arms is pretty alright lads
id love to support the notion and i salute u
but smashing 10-11s doesnt say anything
esp not week 1-2
hs>ms>cleave with ravager>op>wrecking throw>cleave>slam
on st
still nice tho
it's fine for now I guess haha
now that's what i call an inspiration lol
some new findings havent been pushed like sudden death usage
ill try to get used to it ig
maybe ill try
some keys
i cant imagine it outperforms fury st tho
on st u can use sd whenever as long as ravager isnt up and ms is on cd
it doesnt but it outperforms on aoe
by how much?
You know what though, it's fun dumpserting the other specs for now
people are surprised as fuck
without an on use cause i dont want to use puzzy b
ye but i play iwht pugs who cant pull
xdd
did a 12 pit with a friend on tank did 200k
or pugs that force me to spam shockwave
yeah
gg
idk people usually play premade 
i gotta go to physical therapy i got hit by a car 2 weeks ago
ill go back and try to steal my friend's resi 15s and get back to u
eta gg
ye losers
(i wish it were me)
biz is topping in his 16s but he hasnt played fury yet so idk
at least i havent seen him play fuyr
idk the dungeons well yet but if ure consistently allowed to pull on top of the boss colo outdamages fury on boss damage
i think wahle sent a sim colo doing 130k dps to the main target
from 3t funnel
IT's because of FoB
colossal might + 4set + fob + collat + bloodsurge
collat cleaves FUCK
cleave FUCKS*
idk how bloodsurge works but i assume u get more rage if u have rend on more targets
@mortal crag make sure to not overwrite ss with broad strokes ss
they dont stack
also a tip: pool rage by autoattacking while tank is gathering
ure very rage hungry on opener with crushing combo and nothing generates rage on opener anymore
u can also start stacking colossal might if tank has good aggro
when i play premade with tank friend i tell him to keep good aggro on 1 mob so i can start stacking cm
i either ss way before i cs while the tank is gathering if im premade with tank in voice and he keeps aggro to stack cm
or i dont ss at all before cs
ss after ur broad strokes ss is gone
by the time broad stroke ss is gone u want to reapply rend too from my experience
and i just ms once if i have cm from last pack and its about to fall off and continue autoattacking for rage
Still sort of unsure how to use crests. I just got 266 ilvl Solarflare Prism - do I just full send upgrades on it?
Since it enables partial mythic track upgrade
12 pit, completely forgor to use my puzzle box apart from on first pull and last boss
xD
Yes, if you have any buffs active for cleave
e.g. Ravager is out, Collateral Damage from SS hits
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like here at 13.07
there is no buff but he is using cleave
actions.colossus_st+=/cleave,if=buff.ravager.remains|buff.collateral_damage.stack=3
actions.colossus_st+=/overpower
actions.colossus_st+=/whirlwind,if=active_enemies=2&buff.collateral_damage.stack=3
actions.colossus_st+=/cleave,if=talent.mass_execution&target.health.pct<35
actions.colossus_st+=/execute
actions.colossus_st+=/wrecking_throw,if=active_enemies=1
actions.colossus_st+=/rend,if=dot.rend_dot.remains<=gcd*5
actions.colossus_st+=/slam```
Missplay 👍
but i am lookin at the time stamp
and he didnt press cleave
cleave>slam always
First time i see him pressing cleave is at 13:32
with m+ colo
actions.colossus_st+=/cleave,if=!talent.martial_prowess
did this get removed or what
i just ran quick sim gg
didnt get pushed i assume
actions.colossus_st=rend,if=dot.rend_dot.remains<=gcd|cooldown.colossus_smash.remains<2&dot.rend_dot.remains<=10
actions.colossus_st+=/sweeping_strikes,if=active_enemies=2&(cooldown.colossus_smash.remains&buff.sweeping_strikes.down|!talent.broad_strokes)
actions.colossus_st+=/ravager,if=cooldown.colossus_smash.remains<=gcd
actions.colossus_st+=/avatar
actions.colossus_st+=/colossus_smash
actions.colossus_st+=/cleave,if=buff.ravager.remains&buff.collateral_damage.stack=3
actions.colossus_st+=/heroic_strike
actions.colossus_st+=/champions_spear
actions.colossus_st+=/demolish,if=debuff.colossus_smash.up&buff.colossal_might.stack>0|talent.master_of_warfare.rank=4
actions.colossus_st+=/mortal_strike
actions.colossus_st+=/cleave,if=buff.ravager.remains|buff.collateral_damage.stack=3
actions.colossus_st+=/overpower
actions.colossus_st+=/whirlwind,if=active_enemies=2&buff.collateral_damage.stack=3
actions.colossus_st+=/cleave,if=talent.mass_execution&target.health.pct<35
actions.colossus_st+=/execute
actions.colossus_st+=/wrecking_throw,if=active_enemies=1
actions.colossus_st+=/rend,if=dot.rend_dot.remains<=gcd*5
actions.colossus_st+=/cleave,if=!talent.martial_prowess
actions.colossus_st+=/slam
gg old apl
I have abandoned my arms so far
Maybe this weekend I take him for a spin
Been playing blood dk
I've just hit 2.7 on my arms
I did 1 key as slayer in keys and it was so fun
been playing around with my rdruid aswell
But I imagine colossus is still the big play. I like colossus
Sometimes you gotta take the dps out back and put em down
real
ya lol
Just pull adds with boss
My arms is only 250, my dk is 266 with 4p. It'll feel weird going backwards
But I'm missing cleave and demolish
It felt like shit with so little haste
In keys im having a blast, in raid not so much except for the council
Also my guild goes doomer mode if i show up as arms xd
Imma try to pug normal and see if I can grab a tier piece.
This weekend
Does the 4p feel impactful? What is the cs uptime like?
Getting around 50% uptime on bosses with 4pc
up from like 35% ish
yep
Not an arms question, but does anyone have any advice for positioning the coreright boss in NXP? Its been the most problematic boss ive had pugging. Everyone keeps dropping shit in the middle and then getting knocked into beams.
Ive tried tanking him in the middle, and also on edge and kinda moving him around to clear areas
And I cannot tell if its boss positioning or people just being ass with puddle drops and positioning
Should we only be using demolish/bladestorm during colossus smash?
or is it okay to use outside?
during
Sick d2r necro pfp
+/- we get some more ST love today?
🫡
If you have to ask that question, then the answer is yes
Technically, there will be situations (particularly in m+) where desyncing them is the stronger choice
Anyone has what the next tuning notes ^
better luck next xpac
perhaps they will finnaly rework arms
You really notice it in aoe when you can spam cleave. Like 85% uptime
Gaming think I'm at like 30 20 21
tf is broad strokes ss
sorry was at physio t
avoid overriding regular sweeping strikes with the proc from broad strokes when you cs
Holy maisara run xD
They don’t stack
If you use CS youll get a fresh set of SS (this is Broad Strokes)
So don’t use your normal SS if you plan on casting CS soon.
It munches the overlap
CS -> use your free stacks -> SS to fill any gaps if it runs out-> CS as soon as it’s available
Where can I find the apl, it doesn't seems be on simulationcraft?
github

Convinced my priest to PI me
Only to have it disqualify my parse 
Lmao
New here; been testing about with Slayer in M+ because of the recent execute buffs; any strong opinions on it?
bad
al bosses in raid have trash, do i take multitarget slayer then?
Slayer is fine but I think it needs 4pc to compete with colossus in m+
Otherwise your bs doesn't last through your cs debuff after cleave combo
But just theories here. Im a poor set-less mongrel and colossus does little more damage in m+
But worse single target for sure
is there a threshold of when to use them out f sync? for example >15 sec left on CD for CS?
oh boy oh boy. why did i open vault on my alt. cant get invited to keys. 20min in lfg with my +2 0 signs at all.
Did a bunch of slayer keys last night. It ain't bad at all. Most competitive slayer has even been with Colo. Colo still wins out tho
What does Slayer need to be competitive
noone?
More dmg! Still behind on aoe compared to the power house of Colo.
pure ST on vorasius and NK, TC+powerful momentum and the CS/SS talent on dragons. Colossus on 1st boss and paladins
and idfk about crown
atleast imo
i play slayer m+ build on crown but it feels pointless
i think u just take pure single target on crown
might aswell just go pure st
maybe take broad strokes
ya
We really need better single target talents
Feels like you lose a massive amount of aoe for the piddliest single target increase
Yep
An yeah we wreck house in m+ but its like a 5 to 10% aoe increase over top specs for a -50 to -60% on single target
They should revamp some of those aoe talents for ST ones
Or just make better single target
Im fine with absolutely dumpstering my aoe if it means I can dish out good st for raid
With different talent builds
Not going to pretend like Id know what is needed tho
Our single target stuff seems heavily tuned towards the execute window which is kind of just not very useful
SS cleave % needs to go down and then they can finally give us real ST
Race should be ending soon right? Then they can make some actual changes
Liquid got first i think
🙏
Rogues have been struggling too
For the amount of effort they put in outlaw should be pumping
Or hear me out. Just better overall st?
Anything really
Or less aoe talents
Normally arms is designed in a way where you sacrifice all your single target to do aoe and vice versa. Just atm sacrificing your aoe gives you very piddly single target
Thats a good thing
At least thats how it feels
if you're looking for which talents to take on raid bosses, you can check WoWHead and see what the top players take per-boss, it's quite nice
for example: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/46?boss=3176&difficulty=4&class=Warrior&spec=Arms
Loosing little st for aoe is good
If our st just simmed 115/ 120
Like top builds
We would not have this conversation
I think you misread what I said
now better colossus or slayer?
Im just saying in the past I think with arms you usually had to all in aoe or single target with your talents and the damage was reasonable with what you specced into. No middle ground.
But currently it seems like by giving up your aoe with talent selection you gain very little at all in single target damage increases
Fatality is pretty meh. Can barely feel it in ST.
either one honestly, colossus a little better
If battlelord didnt screw up execute phase id just take that. Its more fun at least
The talent choices buffing MS work against BL.
Is the bleed crit talent really worth taking? I guess it save you some applications of rend but its just so underwhelming at a glance
It's a dumb interaction.
And it only has the 5+ crit chance under 35% hp, right?
Arms has the worst capstone talents imo for any spec in the game.
Avatar, tactician, the free rend in execute phase... Lazy af.
Make them as cool a shadow priest
If we had a juiced up skullsplitter with super bloody visuals as a capstone that would be kinda sick
you know what makes any spec sick is when you can commit ww2 atrocities onnit and unfortunately dps warrior has not done that for years now
I just wanna bonk, man
ask him idk
Which is good
Cos also means u give up little st to go aoe😅, c what i did there
With cleave being main,aoe
Theres little reason ms // op // hs cant be strongrr
On archon atm we're showned as 2nd best dps class in M+
Idk what they are taking to make this data but it's here x)
their range of key is +7 to +16 atm
Yeah I just don't get what's "broken" or being misrepresented and the guy is too AFK to answer me. Figured the warrior discord might know what the hell he's on about.
This just in!
Is this dude just bullshittin' or?
just outdated info
Apex was having some issues last week
it was a DPS loss to take it early in the expansion, blizzard entirely reworked it, then it was briefly broken again (but only in sims, but this is also fixed)
It's been fixed
The bug was in beta when it didnt consume hs but gave stacks
Also biz is playin arms gettin our numbers up
I'm just so tired of fury lol.
It isn't but the dmg as we expected is doing its thing especially with the new apex and 4pc

Yea looks crazy in phys comp
With how good brew is should be looking good but fury is still pretty good. Def can play either arms or fury rn
All depends how things shake up here in the next few weeks
How does brew boost physical?
Monk debuff
Pwar is also looking really good
Still also got 2 more guaranteed tuning passes so everything is still early
Ye
Does it just passively increase phys damage?
Monk has increased phys dmg debuff DH has increased magic dmg
It's their version of a bshout or motw or skyfury
Last expansion M+ balance was so good we had the birth of the phys comp magic comp
Instead of just the one God comp
If so, thats kinda stupid right?
It’s weird but idk if stupid is the right word
All the other teams can just catch up now
They tried something different and I don’t figure they expected crown to just die in 30 pulls
Fair enough
The only other team in race is echo and they already killed the boss this morning lol
Hey im all for making norms and heroic raid more accessible for pugging
It giving more teams time to “catch up” is objectively good bc the race has been a two team race for years
I just want it to end so real tuning can begin
But realistically no one else other and liquid or method will be able to actually prog Midnight Falls nearly as well unless it’s a stupid easy fight which would be a disaster
Sorry not method
Echo
Yeah. Just seems silly to call it a race when it seems more like it'll be a sprint to see who can finish the march on quel denas faster
There's already scheduled tuning for next week and the week after
They ain't waiting till after the race
Unless they change their minds
Oh I thought it was a thing where they dont really make drastic changes and try to keep things reasonably samish during race
Like no talent reworks or anything spicy like that
Its the only reason I can think of why some classes just get completely ignored despite being miles above everything else in all categories
Normally they don't no but this expansion is different as they confirmed 4 dates for tuning this time around.

been awhile since ive had this much fun in m+
Cleave em down. Getting ready to expect another cleave nerf and ST buff
what is that
It's Colo pressing cleave
just more st please
Beta tier list believers in shambles right now
do you cleave in colossus ravager st opener?
Lemme guess the key MT? That place has so many smallies for Colo to blow up
pit of saron
Did almost 170 in MT last night
Yeah MT is my fav dung of the season so far
cleave modifiers: 50% from Ravager, 25% per collateral stack, and also 5% per apex stack (which also affect MS/OP)
aaaand... I'm not sure 
maybe some1 else can help
during ravager cleave>slam on ST, that's for sure.
quick math 
My macro that is probably a bad habit to have:
/cast avatar
/use 13
/use 14
The above worked for my just fine and today it wasn't using the trinket even though avatar went.. the trinket has an on use effect and wsnt on cd (bc i was able to manually bind it to something else and it worked). Is this user user or did something change?
ox = puzzle box?
Sorry, avatar
Yes..
should work, as i've done the same
170k in a seat of triumvirate
sheesh
FORGOT TO LOGGGG
i log this one
🪵
w/o shaman buff also
This is the trinket that wasn't working in macro
that trinket is giga turbo dogshit
Why?
🐐
Hope your making the tank pull shit on boss
saw an arms smashing dps in mythics is it goods or am i dreaming
great aoe piss single target
overall is very good
59k st sim wooo
it literally stuns you if you dont kill something 20 sec after using it
actively griefs you
dont use it
so can not play fury 😮 and do well
Is it a stun or fear?
it's a horrify
horrify is the type of fear that is used in cases where you're definitely getting it
since there never was a way to remove it in game ever aside from bubble or some other gimmick immunity ig
horrify
you can't remove it
you get to sit there for 5 seconds doing nothing
Was always the case for M+
you can
Yikes man m+ representation should tell blizzard everything they need to know
The few the proud boyz
community propaganda partially caused this
Too many tier list andys
Even I got gaslit into thining arms would be beans
Still tho there are 5 specs under 20k with a 25k gap. The other 4 have some of the same sort of issues we do
just makes me want to play arms more
The minute I started playing arms in keys my guild was shocked
they had no idea arms could blast that much in aoe
There's always underplayed specs and it's not just for performance
Player count is an indicator of profile problems not just raw performance
its more an indication of player perception more than anything
^
If the perception was wrong I’d agree. It’s not lol
like I dont think survival is a particularly bad spec at all in M+ but people see MM and BM cranking they flock to those specs
The perception is in fact wrong
but the perception of arms is wrong
arms is absolutely blasting on overall
Unless you think arms is bad in keys for some reason?
fury brings better ST and prio sure, but arms aoe is actually kind of ridiculous
Arms also has really good funnel right now
Overall sure. In well aware I’m doing great in keys. That doesn’t mean the perception is wrong cause we’re enjoying the output
Our boss damage in keys is dogshit still. The perception is accurate lol
Boss damage ain't a problem if you pull shit onto boss
^
That’s not boss damage lol
It is you know what funnel means right?
and for people pushing 17s that would matter if I take a guess none of the people talking right now are doing that
You can play anything in low keys. It doesn't matter
And ppl still aren’t playing arms cause the perception is accurate
Yo would colossus smash snapshot for demolish if using it at the end of the debuff

look at this dude they don't understand data sway
Lmao brother, it’s not data sway. The bottom 5 specs are all fucked
They are thr worst balanced specs in the game
dude's gotta be at least 2/9 and crushing 16s
What does my progression have to do with facts?
If you want arms to be shitty just say that lol
Skill issue
It’s not
^
When did I say it wasn’t tho? Being good in keys isn’t being a balanced spec…yall gotta be trolling lol
You repeatedly said perception of arms is accurate, perception of arms is that its beans and its not
balanced spec is one that's not bottom 5
there will always be a bottom 5 spec
spec will never be balanced
take shot
blizzard sux xd
If you think anyone is finder is taking you over fury or, well pretty much any other spec gl. I’d never take me either
But it's a better key spec lol
no way, you'd take an arms warrior over anything that ins't
no way you're pugging xd

mage/unholy dk/aug
devourer owns but they are all shit
so i wouldn't invite one
sorry forgot warlock, i'd take a warlock
It's gonna take a lot of time for people to realize arms ain't shit
I've been taken as arms all of the time....
my rating and my ilvl is good enough people dont really give a shit lol
Just how it is, but IDC about people who pug keys
Facts🤣
7/9 normal player is speaking, listen and learn
yall were absolutely dooming too just like two weeks ago
it's how class discords always go
2 weeks ago was like 2 buffs ago
i was never dooming arms
Keys weren't out two weeks ago and neither were two weeks in a row of buffs and an apex rework
it still needs god
Brother I’m saying lmfao they been dooming this whole time and the stats prove them right but now it’s ok cause they think they are carrying their keys
even if it feels good rn
yah almost like they hadn't done the tuning yet they said they were going to do you bellend
like spec is designed horribly
You are a fool
Do not agree with me cretin
??? 2/9 heroic and 154 spec rank in keys. I’m good bro, I got raid tonight so I’ll update you
that is very funny lmao
😮
nevermind talk more
What is happening right now lmao
gm hrothmar
Some good ol fashion ragebaiting
An internet classic
Good morning!
If you guys wanna kiss just take it to DMs
Ngl id wear this on a trucker hat
is this ring real ?
is arms cooked or playable?
Good in M+
Playable for sure
Needs god in M+ single target but our AoE makes up for it
And most of this raid has cleave at some point so it keeps us alive
I heard if you just funnel you’ll be a god
time to get avoided like the plague cuz all the tierlists be dooming arms
Tier lists are for weaklings
indeed
Make yourself so big that you cover everyone else's screen so they deal less dps
You can knock a 10 over with a stiff breeze
Feel like I should just keep things at 7 and blast til im full hero gear
I did a 12 dragon hogwarts and it was pretty dicey. Down to single digits
Prolly need better gear
That one is a bit rougher than the others fwiw
Yeah I think it would have been fine if we just took things slower
Still, epic ending it with like 6s
Any tips for ST? done 14 WS average dps is fine but ST on boss is atrocious
I have been queuing as fury but swapping to arms. I doubt most groups who invite even look at your spec tho tbh
Sounds right, unfortunately
if we can funnel we prob are the best boss dps
IF
anytime ive had funnel i have cranked the actual boss
Funnel/prio is goated always in keys
is ST so bad cuz of shit tuning?
trying to make arms work cus im enjoying it so far. Is there any world where we play slayer in keys to help our pretty abysmal ST? or just lean full into the aoe
I mean you can play Slayer but Colo AoE is just way better. Prob best to just accept piss boss damage and carry in the trash packs instead
flask crit still for dungeons? or haste
@minor gust you know what key arms is crazy on
seat
you can pull like 5 packs onto boss
track slam on cdm xd
only seeing slam change
thats what i do
I just made macro that overwrites overpower whenever hs is up
You ping wrong person silly
Not sure if thats smart but I havent had issues with it
i know i just wanted to know if i didnt have to make a custom bar
move slam there
and hide it like an idiot
sorry
First boss and 2nd yeah ex to pull some shit into 3rd and 4th harder
2nd boss don't even need to since it's 3 mobs that share same hp
you can still pull 2 packs on 2nd
and
on 3 you can pull casters i think
what triggers the 3rd boss spawn
killing 2 of the prio guys
so opener is rend - rav - wb- cleave-cleave-lceave-cleave-Demolish ?
y ava i would send with WB
X4 cleave and MS if you don't have demo stacks
If you got demo stacks you can send demo after cs
Tbh with 4pc you can hold Demo for 10 stacks but nbd
Should have almost 10 from building while tank pulls and doing your 4 cleaves and ms
Crunch
Whoosh whoosh whoosh whoosh
Cling clang CLONG
By mid you mean absolute trash right? lol
I needed an excuse to use that gif, okay?

do u have that to pls share, I hate slam
What does this mean
blizz devs finish work in 3 ish hours
upcoming tuning on the 31st, we might know today
we're so back


HOLUY
yoooooooo
uff I need sims
How many % we win ?
Bro whar
we're gonna really strong lol
I feel like we're almost there guys
execute was already overtaking slam and cleaves in execute after the MS buff and cleave nerfs
a tad surprised Fury didn't get any changes
like, we're alrdy almost perma top dps cuz of our AOE
But we're lowkey ahead of tank on boss
but with this patch HOLLYYYYY
fury is still powerful in raid
were more suprised thane isnt getting nerfed
so we wont complain about that
Moar Arms buffs kewl
Holy shit more arms buffs
What is going on
Have i died and gone to heaven?
Am i on drugs?
ok this is deperssing
just did a key with a ret pala
he does Arms levels of aoe ( i know only a 10) WHILE doing more than me on ST ?
wtf
nearly 90k ST ?
Lowkey ahead of tank on boss sounds so fucking sad still lmao
finally execute on 40 rage going to be worth its price
Idk I was already doing 60-70k st dps in dungeons
Ret just goated dw about it
just did academy 14, my monk tank end up ahead of me (48k) 🤡
The only thing I hate about Ret is their passive AA that generates holy power does more damage than most abilities over course of dungeons lol
so , why nerfs before ?
20% execute damage, Colossus is Saved in M+ guys
like i could play better but jesus
so we can post the RIP gifs
ty
We keep winning boys
The OP buff also buffs DN so thats a double win 
they finally realized homies want to see a fat execute
remaking classic for the 5th time got them thinking
That's what, a 15% aura buff + a 7% buff via spells+ this one
execute going to be prio now in ST?
we need more
Ok im asking as morong
what buff to what
This row is 20% execute and 10% OP
oh, check wowhead
Maybe 10% more to ms
now the 30% execute nerf we had
imo
is reverted
MS should be prioritized
wait so mby arms > fury in sims ?
LMAO bro , these buffs
Ehhh
should be right? arms was 95k, fury 101k? (slayer)
more 20% at Overpower and 15 at MS will be fine
nice nice
Now the real question, what race do you guys feel like has good animations for arms warrior? Mine is nelf but the posture and plate looks a bit goofy on him.
will be mid ST
orc all day
Female Night elf
I like the male BE stance with a 2H
Pandaren, Mog is a struggle tho
Human Male
I really like troll male
fem pandaren
tauron
Arms buff lets gooo
done
tauren with the totem could be fire
Tbh female panda has the best 2h animations
Slayer stocks rise not much of a buff for colo since you cant press exe in keys outside of SD
Been back
But the op and dn gains
nail in a colo coffer tbh
Although id love a slayer m plus season
difference between two specs in ST would be even more noticable
And that's bad why?
Back to back slayer buffs
Real
did some slayer keys all last night. It aint beating at colo in overall but its the most competitive its been with colo since tww release
very much can play slayer in keys if you wanted
Honestly when they previewed the Hero trees, I expected Slayer to be the M+ Build and Colossus to be the ST raid build. Be ncie to have a sesason like that.
i want to transmog to Amani troll so much.
Tauren is best cus they’re the biggest, nothing more to explain there
because making a spec that requires 8 talent changes to do AoE is already a bad thing
Even more true with the current 12.0.5 changes

12.05 is a toss up because the changes very much is gonna require some big retuning
RN number wise 12.05 slayer still pretty dead

bro weve gotten buffs last 3 weeks
EXECUUUUUUUUUUUTE
20% exe buff pog
They would need 2 give col a st button
wonder if this'll be enough for keys or any fights
at least execute would have more tooltip damage now than mortal strike
yes, but this feels a bit better
Ala sks
📷 now do a silly one
condemn go brrrrt
would the execute buff change m+ build
Moo
any guesstimates on % improvement? This puts Arms like middle of the pack maybe?
human tbh
Big woooooosh
specifically this is what makes it feel better lol
top 3 most juiced warriors in the world axaxaxxa
Not when I play uhdk, I make it look really bad
Capppp
idk cause like
Now lets talk bout more rage
sometimes i do good st like competing with others
like me when I play fury
just gotta pull 2 more mobs onto boss
It's very rng with tactician resets and ms resets
and boss dmg go up
though, I feel like I've gotten worse at arms somehow, I'm WAY over generating rage
On mythic
Guys we are almost there
arms aoe buff as well
I don't think you can get them close enough
Just one more buff and we turn full ssj
Mythic is different
arms over fury now in m+??
oh do they not enrage?
Has been already if you are good at arms imo
on mythic no
Very likely tbh 20% exe is big for slayer
cool
LOL
ye okay, as slayer? or also thane
As colossus?
yes sorry
ye i did a few keys as fury and i just do better as arms
especially on the few keys with multi target bosses, jelly fish and derelict duo arms pissblasts imo
my stats are awful but no way it matters that much
arms is actually blasting in keys rn
execute buff goes so fucking hard

As Colo I don't think so
as colossus execute is just too much rage to be worth
u can only really cast it on sudden death
unless ur rage capped
Will move SD prio up a lot more at least
but you aint talenting into any exe talents as colo
shit still cheeks due to rage
is arms going to be good now?
arms was good before
now it will be "gooder" 
Our execute is going from cooked noodle to uncooked noodle
I log some
I missed a lot though
gg
U can check my wcl im on phone
I thought I did then found out my auto log addon stopped working -_-
Yeah I had a addon turning my combatlog on and it stopped
ngl im gonna start logging my keys
i wanna check how much dmg shit does
and its impossible cause details doesnt exist anymore
its soo annoying
Another arms buff
time for more slayer keys next week
getting buffed on every single tuning pass lol
Arms slayers is now competitive on raids?
Looks like it’s time to dust the warrior off
its reverse nerubar
instead of fury getting nerfed every week its arms getting buffed every week lol
Think so
should be
Arms doing better than rogues to its bless
On vorascius and twin drakes
its enough for me to prog every mythic boss as arms at this point
well see if we get another buff next week

Unlikely