Ok but you get to spend time with me too, so I think it's still an unfair trade
#arms
untold trench
My point stands, arms should get a nerf
next sphinx
name them rms warrior
sharp wyvern
cleave mostly
umbral badger
@sharp wyvern funny thing is that i am using the AI to try find the exact intreview, and the AI is so stupid it keeps showing me "posts from te hcommunity referencing ion saying that'
but the AI is too dumb to find anything other than reddit posts
lol
sharp wyvern
ion having the same source would actually make more sense to me
he probably got told the same thing
shy dew
My point stands, arms should get a nerf
yeah like why not give us a shield we`re already doing tank dmg, why not make arms a second tank spec for class
nova marsh
LOL
lament kraken
next sphinx
yeah like why not give us a shield we`re already doing tank dmg, why not make ar...
oh shiii the true gladiator stance was always meant for arms!!
smoky kayak
<@376786954920001536> funny thing is that i am using the AI to try find the exac...
Ion never would have said that anyway, he is not involved in that kind of design
shy dew
oh shiii the true gladiator stance was always meant for arms!!
why not, we can be a gladiator
candid pecan
wait until we get 4 set and really own on paladin bosses
sharp wyvern
We had 10-20% tuning swings
they got to the fine tuning part
smoky kayak
he's just the only dev whose name people knows, so everyone blames him for everything lol
next sphinx
But what has he done to help us HM?
lament kraken
rename arms to "cleave"
neon hedge
tribal kindle
Arms warrior tank spec now?
sharp wyvern
astral yarrow
Ok but you get to spend time with me too, so I think it's still an unfair trade
i am the gift
the guy with the sunglasses wrote a song about it
sharp wyvern
we live and die by the cleave
nova marsh
they got to the fine tuning part
And thats good
nova marsh
Still funny that both classes I wanted to see buffs got zero changes...least rogue got some okay ones
weak rain
just stop playing this shit, this is beyond ridiculous by now
umbral badger
Ion never would have said that anyway, he is not involved in that kind of design
either way i genuinly remember a clip i watched him saying that, but then again with my ADHD brain i'd rather doubt what i am remembeirng.
sharp wyvern
part of me thinks blizz shouldnt use 3rd party websites to do the tuning
umbral badger
`24th march` they`ll announce arms gonna be renamed as gladiator a second tank s...
oh god, the gladiator memories.
i hated that shit
next sphinx
Guys what if we all went and played feral. it is the unofficial "legs spec". For those who don't know. feral druids have a cat form which allows them to run around on all four of their legs. Then Blizzard would have to buff arms.
shut peak
`24th march` they`ll announce arms gonna be renamed as gladiator a second tank s...
nah they make it a dps spec. a 2hd and shield spec. remove colossus and make the new hero spec banner lord.
vapid goblet
when do we shut down the discord
sharp wyvern
why would we arms is finee
shy dew
when do we shut down the discord
even doing it wont work lol
shy dew
doing it they`ll remove arms spec
shy oyster
t.t i really dont know what the expectation of arms is here now as there's not even a review or word. at this point i'd really just like them to come out and say: "we only want arms to be used in niche, aoe scenarios. fury is where you get your jack of all trades."
sharp wyvern
even the mass aoe specs have better ST than arms rn
shy oyster
in its own painful way, having zero word is actually more painful than no changes. because we dont even KNOW what the intention or idea behind arms is.
next sphinx
doing it they`ll remove arms spec
"no discord guess everyone is done with arms. now introducing fury 2"
sharp wyvern
is just arms but every button is red now
icy mulch
shy dew
btw, if rename it to gladiator and give us a shield wouldnt be bad
next sphinx
arms kinda is already fury 2
stop it
sharp wyvern
it was in DF
shy oyster
yeah, my faith is tanking a bit. brethren, i am tested and i am losing
sharp wyvern
if we had more rage it would be
sharp wyvern
https://i.imgflip.com/977c65.gif
arms is actually fine look at the logs
why would we need any buffs
shy dew
yeah
shy dew
like 30k thousands logs and 1 arms is top dps, he`s fine why tune it
next sphinx
that 1 arms warrior? Ion.
nova marsh
Guys arms is fine because of vanguard
nova marsh
Remeber day 1 logs are gospel
shy oyster
yeah the 4p is my last guess now. like, are they expecting 4piece will actually tune arms properly???
sharp wyvern
it will make aoe even more broken
shy oyster
this is so mind boggling
sharp wyvern
it might has the biggest dps increase from tier
next sphinx
ah the classic, lets give it 6-8 weeks for everyone to have tier and see how arms is doing then. can't have them executing our Mythic bosses to good
shy dew
do we have a execute?
shy dew
i thought they removed too
torpid wave
why doesnt hated crate tracker show Voidstorm timer?
sharp wyvern
if you get lucky shaman buff procs maybe then you´d execute
shy oyster
yeah... like... its really depressing. fine, if 4p makes Arms ST decent, i'll be happy. will i be staying arms until iget 4p? probably not. i could just do fine being fury and then wait for 4p arms data from more dedicated palyers.
next sphinx
Blizzard gave you the execute button. If you aren't hitting it. that ain't on them.
rare kite
do we have a execute?
The spell yes. A good execute phase? Hahah no not really
icy mulch
arms is actually fine look at the logs
What, all 20 of em? 
crude bison
no changes even on the additional changes? this is some sort of sick joke
hallow quail
not a single one
umbral badger
ah the classic, lets give it 6-8 weeks for everyone to have tier and see how arm...
i dunno, personally i think arms tier set is just gonna make their cleave much stronger but not much for their ST
sharp wyvern
What, all 20 of em? <:keks:936231610850897992>
they only look at overall statistics
shy dew
i`m thinking here
icy mulch
Even worse
crude bison
+5% to MS 
shy oyster
i dunno, personally i think arms tier set is just gonna make their cleave much s...
exactly my fear.
sharp wyvern
@icy mulch look at this
next sphinx
i dunno, personally i think arms tier set is just gonna make their cleave much s...
right since I think I wasn't clear, normally we'd expect arms to blaster in execute phases but Blizzard hates to see bad bitches thrive
tribal kindle
cleave replace mortal strike ✅
shy dew
if only cleave does dmg
tribal kindle
arms fixed
next sphinx
but I was sayin it like a silly goose
icy mulch
What is this from?
shy dew
why dont use cleave in ST
shy oyster
honestly i thought it was going to be a joke, but if arms st will just start relying on cleave just to have decent ST, im all i nfor it.
oak cipher
When can we shut the discord down like rets
umbral badger
exactly my fear.
our set bonus is actually very obviously and weirdly giga extra synergistic with crushing combo, which is just cleave.
next sphinx
I don't want to just hit MS. I wanna just hit cleave KERCHOW
oak cipher
asking for a friend
icy mulch
So it's the same bullshit that happened in Palace, fan fucking tastic
sharp wyvern
as last season ye
next sphinx
When can we shut the discord down like rets
Why would we shut it down?
sharp wyvern
arms ST just cant be good if there are bosses with adds
thats our fate
we only have now
shy dew
When can we shut the discord down like rets
its too soon, they did it to get 30% buff recently
icy mulch
Man, I'm so done with this bullshit.
umbral badger
arms ST just cant be good if there are bosses with adds
at least if it's 3 adds we get to extend the CS on the boss for a long time with 4 set, that does sound like a VERY niche scenario lol
icy mulch
Blizzard can't just let warriors be good/meta for a change.
sharp wyvern
at least if it's 3 adds we get to extend the CS on the boss for a long time wit...
that sounds like arms performance is gonna get even more inflated to the point where it gets nerfed because of the council fight
shy oyster
our set bonus is actually very obviously and weirdly giga extra synergistic wit...
i mean yeah, i'm closing in on the insanity side of my sadness with arms spec. blizzard not saying anything is not helping at all.
fuck it, if it results in 4p making cleave be used in ST then that's their own bloody fault. we just want a spec to do decently without sacrificing too much.
icy mulch
I mean, Whirlwind and Cleave will most likely be used in ST.
umbral badger
that sounds like arms performance is gonna get even more inflated to the point w...
actually, it does not work very well on lightbinded vanguard, cuz 4 set does not work if there isn't exactly 3 targets and lightbinded are not always 3 staccked bosses 😄 funny how that restriction fks us more
next sphinx
i mean yeah, i'm closing in on the insanity side of my sadness with arms spec. b...
you should play feral
shy oyster
:'C
last dome
time to close the discord
next sphinx
time to close the discord
Why???
next sphinx
what happened
sharp wyvern
i think the more realistic thing would be a wowhead article
it worked for fixing out apex talent
last dome
yeah thatll do it!
umbral badger
a wowhead article memeing on arms doing tank dps might work 🤣
next sphinx
Archi deflected for Ion earlier, which means they are Ion, and the Wowhead article they write will just say "arms is fine gang".
sharp wyvern
replace "Potato" with another word.
arms
icy mulch
lmao
last dome
https://tenor.com/view/you-went-full-gif-12640090421596838899
yeah youve got it figured out bud
icy mulch
Rets were a joke before they closed their Discord channel. After they just turned into cringe and a meme spec. They will never live that down.
next sphinx
Rets are my heroes. They unionized and went on strike. Warriors could never.
last dome
nah warriors gotta cope instead of going together
river ridge
Rets are my heroes. They unionized and went on strike. Warriors could never.
Except they didn't unionize. One guy got madge and did it.
rose ibex
Shutting down the disc is baby shit
sharp wyvern
Except they didn't unionize. One guy got madge and did it.
its the american kind of uniionization
next sphinx
listen, its like communism. Stalin made the country unionize and it worked great. that is what that dude did for the rets.
river ridge
its the american kind of uniionization
God I wish it was that fucking easy in the states lmaooo
next sphinx
LET THEM EAT MORTAL STRIKES
shy oyster
we dont need any kind of brash action like shutting the discord down >.> just need to figure out what the spec is even intended and when it actually wakes up >.>
shy dew
Rets were a joke before they closed their Discord channel. After they just turne...
saw a lot of ppl at General in-game saying ret is a spec u can play with 1 hand meanwhile watch a Xalath toe pic
quaint otter
listen, its like communism. Stalin made the country unionize and it worked great...
Worked great except red terror and poverty?
next sphinx
minor set backs
quaint otter
🥲
olive nest
Actually un real that they didn’t do any adjustments for arms
next sphinx
we'll have to sacrifice the rogues and mages, but the community will be better for it.
next sphinx
Actually un real that they didn’t do any adjustments for arms
WHAT???
jolly oar
Actually un real that they didn’t do any adjustments for arms
Atleast we didnt get nerfed again, take what you can get
trim pike
shy oyster
just raise your hands in happiness every time you see adds or council fights happen
quaint otter
we'll have to sacrifice the rogues and mages, but the community will be better f...
i mean by the logic we would have to sacrifice warriors 🥲
next sphinx
i mean by the logic we would have to sacrifice warriors 🥲
yes brother but not the arms warriors.
quaint otter
next sphinx
see all warriors are equal, but some warriors are more equal. (delete fury).
olive nest
Like actually so moronic
quaint otter
I like all warriors
quaint otter
Yes
next sphinx
quick everyone become your guilds raid leader to reserve 4P for you first!!!!
sharp wyvern
we still have a copehope in 4p, hold out until then
we already have the sims with tier tho
icy mulch
saw a lot of ppl at General in-game saying ret is a spec u can play with 1 hand ...
Ret plays itself, all you need to do is push W and spam the one button.
sharp wyvern
you dont even need to be in melee
quaint otter
if u dont have a houseguild just create one
next sphinx
we already have the sims with tier tho
only real sims are day 1 sims and arms is on top BB
shy oyster
we already have the sims with tier tho
i dint read for i dont rly catch up with data - how is it?
shy oyster
"look, guys, just trust me. as soon as this one mob moves next to the boss, i WILL do decent dps."
sharp wyvern
*2 mobs
shy oyster
"i know its not until the boss is nearly dead, BUT STILL."
quaint otter
brewmaster sims higher than us
apparently kungfu > big ass stick
vapid spire
We're getting a 5% nerf ? What
sharp wyvern
kungfu also uses sticks
minor gust
We're getting a 5% nerf ? What
those are 12.05 changes
next sphinx
We're getting a 5% nerf ? What
smfh arms is so far ahead it should be a larger nerf
sharp wyvern
wait a minute we get a MS multiplier in the 0.5 patch WE ARE SAVED
quaint otter
i like that udk 20 nerf to insta up back by 10+
next sphinx
u guys said cleave on ST tho
shy dew
u guys said cleave on ST tho
why not
next sphinx
why not
no glyph to make me say a cool one liner when I hit cleave. like "hmph cut you in half huh bud"
worldly rivet
did yall get the blizz survey in-game
sharp wyvern
what is it about ?
worldly rivet
how you feel about your spec/class
sharp wyvern
how you feel about your spec/class
lmao are you logged on your warrior ?
worldly rivet
yeah
i just took a dump on the .5 changes and said Arms has the most nonexistent dev along with rogue.
hoary palm
I had hopes when they announced the Midnight prunings/rework but rogue and warrior are a complete disaster
They did nothing for over 6 months
minor gust
I would advertise the 12.05 arms feedback thread but uh we been blasting that shit all week and got ignored in the next set of 12.05 notes
hoary palm
Horrible class design and tuning
safe dagger
brewmaster sims higher than us
where can i see that sim?
sudden topaz
There's always next week
fervent cedar
Thats copium
icy mulch
There's always next week
sure, sure
fervent cedar
Thats actually straight copium
Like everyone has been saying the balance was going to be solid because of how tight it was in tww and people say be patient, well we're here now
Arms performed on one boss now it gets nothing
tacit crow
There's always next week
They announced two tuning passes before mythic. One the reset we just went past and one for next week where we just got notes for with no warrior changes. After that only "minor tuning and bugfixes" until way later in the season. So unless we get assigned the DK dev and get a hotfix buff this is our life for season 1
ripe oxide
"the nerfs shall continue until morale improves"
shy oyster
myeah, skirting towards fury rn lmao
at least i can mog a fist wep + a big wep and pretend im some kinda derpy arms warrior
shy dew
myeah, skirting towards fury rn lmao
i`m switching to prot, more single
fervent cedar
Its a fury tier for sure but this shit is actually so frustrating to see
I was excited for arms this season during beta
Im actually enjoying how it plays right now
gusty nymph
Arms performed on one boss now it gets nothing
always a few optimists in the forum. we need balance after all 🙂
shy oyster
Its a fury tier for sure but this shit is actually so frustrating to see
this ^ yeah. i still have faith arms will wake up this month
but i cant wait anymore lol
fervent cedar
They announced they are doing tuning first 4 weeks
And it is absolutely justifiable to be frustrated by these decisions when other classes have gotten more attention much quicker than we did
next sphinx
Feral can use the vrykul drinking horn and be a big cat
quaint otter
And it is absolutely justifiable to be frustrated by these decisions when other ...
they reworked mm two or three times durin tww iirc
mild sierra
We also dont know how the 2 boss raid fights are gonna play
quaint otter
spoiler turbo shit
fervent cedar
Are either of them council fights
If not cool you're playing fury
Not to mention the M+ elephant in the room
shy oyster
at this point i doubt anyone can be blamed for leaving the arms discord for fury's greener horizons lmao
fervent cedar
Thats probably why we arent seeing any changes even with M+ focus in mind, which just adds so much more weight to archi's comment
If our aoe is so insane then take some of the power out of it and give us power elsewhere to compensate
shy oyster
yeah, thats the general consensus
slice our aoe/cleave. just give us ST in compensation
vapid pivot
at least we have great aoe right
My AOE feels entirely tired to how many procs I get as slayer :-)))
next sphinx
What if blizzard just removed our st and went harder on our aoe. I get sleepy on bosses without adds anhwahs
tough pond
limpid lily
Crazy arms isn’t getting any buffs on Tuesday. With the buff to BM arms is going to be bottom of the barrel except for one fight
Which is sad, because fury although fun gives me carpal tunnel
restive jay
Tuning was posted?
next sphinx
What???
restive jay
How much arms buff???
shy oyster
zero
spring vale
xd
charred brook
20% aura
untold trench
Escaped nerfs
restive jay
😱
limpid lily
tranquil oar
guys did co pilot forgot that warrior class is in the game for next tuning patch ?
icy mulch
Pretty much
candid pecan
mythic PALADINS will be LIT with 4p
flint cedar
guys did co pilot forgot that warrior class is in the game for next tuning patch...
There is a LITTLE hope that they arent finished with the tuning for warriors. They posted like 3 updates on the fly for the 17th, 19th. les copium a la dicktum
rare kite
then cleave will get nerfed too
good. that shit does way too much
tight wing
good. that shit does way too much
not while our ST is what it is right now
vapid spire
good. that shit does way too much
Its because they forgot to nerf it
rare kite
not while our ST is what it is right now
something can do too much even when something else does too little
tight wing
something can do too much even when something else does too little
that massive cleave damage is the ONLY Thing we've got going for us atm
rare kite
yes and it's preventing st buffs
halcyon valve
Another round of absolutely nothing happening
fervent cedar
Looking at warcraft logs it looks like arms is performing like middle to below average on every fight except two
Arms performs well on vanguard
Arms has not killed heroic crown and is dead last on normal logs
So I guess their thought process is arms is decent enough to not completely grief your raid if you play it and its good on one fight, therefor it's fine
tight wing
idk I feel like they're planning on removing warrior at this point, we've been entirely left out of the last few tuning notes
vapid spire
"Arms Warrior doesnt need a buff"
-Some bozos
rare kite
what is the context of that picture
vapid spire
Single target
halcyon valve
We take some of the cleave damage and move it to mortal strike
Cant be that hard can it
wanton niche
but pala is just broken again haha
rare kite
single target what tho? your ilvl? also that evoker should not do that little st
rare kite
i need to do AA as arms and see for myself as well xD
minor gust
250 ilvl and only 26k ST that one might be a you problem
vapid spire
It was on the elemental in Academy
rare kite
250 ilvl and only 26k ST that one might be a you problem
yea it seemed extremely low. i need to see how much i do
i'm 248 tho
minor gust
im usually around 35-40k in colo ST
tight wing
MS/HS seems low but idk
minor gust
not really gonna be able to comprehend what your doing wrong just by looking at your dps meter breakdown
tight wing
not really gonna be able to comprehend what your doing wrong just by looking at ...
this
minor gust
would need logs or pov video
tight wing
but A rough Guesstimate can be made
looks like you've got a good weapon, so you should be doing more and I'd guess it's a rotational issue
maybe prioritizing OP too much over MS
vapid spire
Using MS everytime its available
vapid spire
This is what i have and yes HS on proc
tight wing
yeah I knew what weapon you had, guessed it was ~3/6 champ though
can I see your stats?
vapid spire
tight wing
ooh I wonder if puzzle box is screwing you over
vapid spire
I'll try with crucible
tight wing
that's a good idea, the cast time on Puzzle box is not super ideal
vapid spire
Ya it does anoy me a bit
umbral badger
as someone who never cares a bout how my char looks, you do look like a true orc warrior.
icy mulch
I forgot puzzle box was back into rotation until the other day. Don't really look forward to having to use it again.
vapid spire
as someone who never cares a bout how my char looks, you do look like a true orc...
I also have a Blademaster Tmog
safe eagle
Nice.
icy mulch
Too bad the only mastering you're doing is tickle master.
reef glade
i wanna try arms on vanguard soon there any specific rotation tech to know or is it just like cleave on cd sweep on cd hit buttons and stuff
assume all the slam damage i see is just fob yea u dont actually hit it
tight wing
yeah pretty much
reef glade
is overpower very high or just after cleave/ms pmuch
lone star
is anyone running stance mastery in arms?
lone star
whatd you drop for it?
tight wing
I'd have to check
rare kite
bird
tight wing
I think that this is my current build(at least the left part lol) but I'm not sure and can't check atm
vapid spire
For M+ ?
icy mulch
Slayer is more fun to play, I will agree with ya there.
Just wish the tuning was there.
vapid spire
Yeah, was using ravager but the damage is dogshit
tight wing
my current build is Colo
tight wing
I don't have a screenshot though
vapid spire
But still, i've seen mages do 80-90k on ST bosses
icy mulch
How did ya do on the big pull in the tree room?
vapid spire
In academy before boss ?
rare kite
i didn't get to do that... the pug tank pulled it in 3 pulls...
icy mulch
lame
vapid spire
I think i did around 70/90k on the boss im not sure
worldly rivet
I think that this is my current build(at least the left part lol) but I'm not su...
over barbaric training for m+?
stance mastery* i mean
lyric hound
i just knew they werent gonna do anything
at least they didnt nerf cleave either i guess
i hate to break it to you guys, but were not terrible at these low ilvls. sure at the very top were dog shit, but mythic isnt even open yet. doing anything right now would probably make us broken lol
rare kite
not if they just nerf cleave and buff our st
lyric hound
yeah i agree, but that is probably more of a rework then a bandaid
tight wing
over barbaric training for m+?
Probably, I’m not sure, but sacrificing a bit of AoE for ST sounds like smth I’d do
spring vale
Well theres always 12.0.7 to look forward to, right guys
lyric hound
Well theres always 12.0.7 to look forward to, right guys
given their behavior i actually believe we'll get reworked in a minor, so yes i guess so LOL
tight wing
that’d be funny actually xD
tired pilot
Question
tight wing
Answer
tired pilot
Does collosal smash and the aoe upgrade of it
Still have the ghost weapons animation?
Or did they change it?
rare kite
Or did they change it?
they changed it ages ago thankfully
nova marsh
I am literally just garbage
tight wing
collosal smash is no longer upgraded it's always AoE now
tired pilot
What animation does it use?
nova marsh
What animation does it use?
last I checked the old WB
tight wing
yeah that sounds right
tired pilot
Ty ty
Kk idk if yall look at the forums
But that’s the context
Does warrior use magic?
Beyond lighting from mountain thane, dragon roar, and spear of bastion
tired pilot
I know it’s a dumb question
rare kite
Does warrior use magic?
certainly a little bit. can't tell me ravager isn't magic even tho it ofc does physical damage. if you meant magic damage then nah really only thane does magic
tired pilot
warriors are smthn like 96% physical damage
Oh no I mean like
Stuff tha looks magical
vapid spire
Maybe if they stop doing toilet paper math with their stats it would help with balancing stuff
tired pilot
certainly a little bit. can't tell me ravager isn't magic even tho it ofc does p...
Ya the first part
If it looks magical
rare kite
ya certainly some magical parts
tired pilot
I know it’s a very very silly question
But there’s his very annoying warrior player on the forums
tight wing
Im pretty sure we're 100% physical since DF
could be thinking of fury/prot bc of thane
rare kite
like we transform into an avatar and grow bigger for example. idk how that isn't magical
tired pilot
And he’s invading Hunter spaces with dogshit takes and frankly I figure I go to actual warrior players for animation questions
nova marsh
could be thinking of fury/prot bc of thane
Ye thane has nature damage
tight wing
Oh no I mean like
oh yeah for sure then
nova marsh
But arms is 100% physical
tired pilot
like we transform into an avatar and grow bigger for example. idk how that isn't...
According to him “that doesn’t count” and “warriors don’t use magic it’s all willpower”
shy dew
fuck magical, we only need physical damage
rare kite
According to him “that doesn’t count” and “warriors don’t use magic it’s all wil...
lmaoo
tight wing
maybe he's thinking Bulk up from pokemon?
tired pilot
Probably
tight wing
bc at least in the show, it's Def not magic
iron scarab
Hi there, I dont play arms, but I wanted to drop this in here real quick.
Thats all
smoky jungle
tight wing
He’s in the hunter forums rn
iirc he was in dracthyr forms too and cited that just because they had wings mean doesn't mean they should fly and cited ostritches as an example -_-
that could have been someone else and he was just there too though
jolly lily
so are we not rioting yet?😂
tight wing
Why riot? blizzard is Slow af, by the time we get what we're rioting for we'll be dead
tired pilot
iirc he was in dracthyr forms too and cited that just because they had wings mea...
Ya he’s just a nusance tbh
jolly lily
We need to go all in silvermoon and /sleep or something just sending a message so they can rework arms
all warriors
or die from fall damage
😂
tight wing
or die from fall damage
PILE THE CORPSES HIGH
LITTER THE STREETS, IN THE BLOOD OF OURSELVES
jolly lily
yess😂
tight wing
otherwise known as becoming fodder for UDK
jovial hare
heave ho
tight wing
otherwise known as becoming fodder for UDK
vapid spire
GANG UP IN THE POOL
flint cloud
GANG UP IN THE POOL
Nerf incoming
vapid spire
What are they gonna do ? Dry up the pool ?
tight wing
What are they gonna do ? Dry up the pool ?
yes
vapid spire
They do make funny sound when you punch them
flint cloud
So arms receive no more tuning till RWF ends?
vapid spire
We're losing 5% in 12.0.5
icy mulch
Onlynerfs
flint cloud
GGWP I guess lmao
modest marlin
I feel bad that I'm enjoying arms rotationally
Heroic strike feels like a piece of candy every time I get to cast it
devout pewter
I like it too, it's fun. And I'm gonna protest that Blizz is ignoring it so far by just playing it anyways
tight wing
I think that most of us are enjoying it rotationally, but this crap from blizz is ridiculous
tight wing
like at least make it viable numbers wise
devout pewter
it's insane in aoe, but the second we get to anything st wise... I could just sit in a corner and it would help more I guess?
tight wing
just /cheer
vapid spire
Becoming a bard
tight wing
hell yeah
devout pewter
good idea lol
vapid spire
Im protesting alone
wide wigeon
why is arms so fucking ass 😭
weak rain
Archi you should give blizzard a "hint" to nerf fucking cleave and buff fucking st(by aura or target st spells)...
flint cloud
I don’t understand why they buff devourer.
vapid spire
I don’t understand why they buff devourer.
The new Xpac spec
tight wing
I don’t understand why they buff devourer.
ST is too low
worldly rivet
I legit don't see any Arms warriors in the open world right now lol
flint cloud
ST is too low
Arms even worse
vapid spire
They did the same shit with Paladins in Diablo 4, the class was litteral brainrot
tight wing
Arms even worse
meant as Irony/sarcasm (I main arms LOL)
unique steppe
why is arms so fucking ass 😭
they want you to play ret or dk
wide wigeon
never
tight wing
funny how they don't want to over tune things but they keep buffing things after nerfing it "too hard"
wide wigeon
I refuse to switch to any other class
vapid spire
Same, i also refuse to play brain rot fury
languid torrent
I legit don't see any Arms warriors in the open world right now lol
Yea because prot does more damage
wide wigeon
it does feel like that ngl
vapid spire
Because its true
wide wigeon
even post 15% buff?
tight wing
prot got a 10% too
wide wigeon
incredible
stable fiber
I legit don't see any Arms warriors in the open world right now lol
why would you want to play arms in the open world
its literally worse then unholy dk in the open world
which is hard as fuck to do
flint cedar
I legit don't see any Arms warriors in the open world right now lol
You saw me in the open world....as a corpse.
wide wigeon
I tried to play Arms and died several times doing nightmare prey, switching to fury and didnt die once
proper moth
obsidian lance
I tried to play Arms and died several times doing nightmare prey, switching to f...
maybe skill issue
nova marsh
It's a massive skill issue for me lol
radiant dawn
probably skill issue
ive cleared mine without issue
definitely rough as fuck tho i wont lie
hushed pine
next sphinx
Never gonna forgive Blizzard for not giving us Shamalama ding dong for fury and arms. Arms could have used the combined sword and fury split em up. Varian was already dad and anduin should just be a priest.
tight wing
Have arms warriors wield 2 1h and 1 2h
that'd be nice, there are a few 2 1h sets I'd like to use but can't
vapid spire
Let prot wield a 2h and shield
I've been saying that since DF
worldly rivet
Let prot wield a 2h and shield
let prot wield 2 shields
vapid spire
They should also give a grab to another class, like we could use chains to pull stuff like the death grip
rose ibex
I only say it if they want arms to cement themselves as a "weapon master"
You could do things like have rage generators with duellies and switch to 2h for spenders or whatever. Holding different weapons would set you in different stances
vapid spire
let prot wield 2 shields
Counter offer, 1 shield per finger
tight wing
They should also give a grab to another class, like we could use chains to pull ...
they had that in SoD
rose ibex
let prot wield 2 shields
Fire
nova marsh
They should also give a grab to another class, like we could use chains to pull ...
If they did that, they'd remove battle shout 
tight wing
I only say it if they want arms to cement themselves as a "weapon master"
You c...
I feel like that might suck to play though
It'd be cool af don't get me wrong, but so so hard to use
nova marsh
I only say it if they want arms to cement themselves as a "weapon master"
You c...
So....you bring back stance dancing basically
rose ibex
So....you bring back stance dancing basically
kinda. you switch stances by using different attacks
which just automatically switch your weapons
is my idea
but maybe people want stance dancing back
nova marsh
I mean aside from that ruining transmog
tight wing
how would you determine weapons used though?
nova marsh
idk if I liked that. Altough that explaination sounds better then what I thought u were sayin
rose ibex
how? you just tmog all your weapons
dire hinge
right, bc rogue constantly has a pistol out
and survival constantly has a slingshot out
rose ibex
how would you determine weapons used though?
something like.... use dual strike = have duellies equpped
use big smash = have two hander equipped
tight wing
but I have multiple weapons in my bags
tight wing
that sounds annoying though
dire hinge
i'd be more in favor of the idea of "the weapons are just cosmetic" but you get a flexible playstyle. Blizzard can't balance hero talents, i dont know how they'd manage balacing multiple weapons on a single character
nova marsh
Plz no
Farming for 2 2 handers on fury is already annoying
let alone potentionally farming for three
tight wing
you have 3 weapon slots
so kinda like hunter back in classic
nova marsh
I do kinda like the idea of swapping weapons though
rose ibex
yeah i guess
nova marsh
Or a more intituive stance system
rose ibex
i'm just thinking like.... how do you fulfil the 'arms' fantasy
nova marsh
Like I forgot the class
rose ibex
what makes arms 'arms'
dire hinge
dying early and hard
rose ibex
some people say it is the weapon mastery class or whatever
tight wing
what makes arms 'arms'
armor pen imo
tight wing
But there's a class in....I think it was GW2?
rev?
nova marsh
...
I'm pretty sure that's what I was thinking of ye
Rev really did feel like a much more intituive version of the stance system from wow to me
Like personally, I feel like I wouldn't mind if stances came back if they were actually iterated on
And not the exact same stance dance system we had in classic
tight wing
Rev really did feel like a much more intituive version of the stance system from...
I agree, but it leans more into the spiritual side of things (old hero's spirits)
tight wing
ahh yeah, that'd great work then, but they'd need more stances
worldly rivet
did they not open mythic+ because it would trivialize raids or something
im absolutely bored.
dire hinge
it's been that way the past few seasons, so nothing new here
M+ is pushed back a few weeks and aligns with Mythic Raid
nova marsh
I don't remeber it being like this for TWW S2
worldly rivet
I only played TWW S1 last expansion. maybe im having a brain fart with the timing of it.
dire hinge
I don't remeber it being like this for TWW S2
been that way since TWW Season 1
dire hinge
0s, Normal, and Heroic open a week ahead of M+/Mythic
tight wing
screw shadowlands
worldly rivet
ah
nova marsh
screw shadowlands
....Not....Not what I was getting at
I was still kinda hoping they wouldn't take the route TWW S1 did with EA
where it takes like almost a month to get the full season and it's drip fed...Alas, here we are
At least like before launch
worldly rivet
where it takes like almost a month to get the full season and it's drip fed...Al...
it is nice not rushing but at the same time it can definitely be shortened a week
tight wing
get rid of early access
nova marsh
I don't mind EA
If it means launches are guaranteed to not be WoD again, sure.
I DO mind the price thou
But tbh the prices of wow expansions are ludicrious
tight wing
tbf it's about the same price as any other AAA game
nova marsh
Yeah
Expect....Expansions aren't suppose to be full games
But nowadays are treated as such
quiet bramble
we're getting wow mobile soon
tight wing
they've got as much content as a full game in them though
nova marsh
Sure
tight wing
in many cases more
nova marsh
But still, I'm paying 15 bucks a month already.
ontop of a full priced AAA game
The content is fine
But EA is basically the only thing of real value in the epic edition
worldly rivet
do yall see how much of that goofy stuff on the store is being worn or used in-game? They can afford to put out better polished stuff haha
nova marsh
witch is insane
vast helm
where are Arms rescue?
minor gust
try again next week
tight wing
where are Arms rescue?
took a wrong turn, ended up at unholy's place
minor gust
well theres scheduled tuning so if RWF lasts longer than 1 week there will be tuning mid race
nova marsh
well theres scheduled tuning so if RWF lasts longer than 1 week there will be tu...
wait I thought the 24th was the last scheduled one?
minor gust
doubt it will tho last longer than 1 week
nova marsh
I mean true now that we've seen how things have shaken out
they got to do splits for a whole week
vapid spire
do yall see how much of that goofy stuff on the store is being worn or used in-g...
Some studios make game with less than 1/4 on their revenue and with like 1/1000 of their workforce they're using on Wow, they're lazy
nova marsh
Ah
I mean
techincally there will be tuning mid race
Because they're tuning when march comes out no matter what
tight wing
oh yeah
how is RWF gonna work this time?
with the 3rd raid release, it can't be comprehensive
is it gonna be extended till all raids are released? and if so, what about the .5 raid?
vapid spire
techincally there will be tuning mid race
You mean their artificial race where they time gate it by giving boss too many HP then removing 50% of their hp after some times ?
nova marsh
It's determined by whoever gets 10/10 first irrc
nova marsh
You mean their artificial race where they time gate it by giving boss too many H...
I mean I don't care about the race
nova marsh
I don't think anyone knows
I don't recall blizz announcing turbo boost for midnight (Thank god)
vapid spire
We're gonna end up the xpack at the same stats/ilvl then they're gonna do another squish
nova marsh
Na
That dosen't happen very often. The only time we had two squishes in a row was bfa to shadowlands
tight wing
oh wait it will, with the voidforge I forgot
nova marsh
and that was for seperate reasons
tight wing
mb
nova marsh
Voidforge gives higher ilvl then launch myth?
nova marsh
....Oh
nova marsh
So they kinda just
rare kite
tbf voidforge is only on trinkets and weapon. thank fuck it's not a full on turbo boost
tight wing
yeah
nova marsh
Nice best of both worlds here
worldly rivet
i have no idea what the forge does. i did the quest. its not yet active for a while though right?
tight wing
yeah
wowhead has a post on it
I'm lazy and don't want to go find it again though
nvm I had it open in a tab
more about the voidforge, a bit speculatory though
https://www.wowhead.com/news/midnight-datamining-reveals-possible-turbo-boost-mechanic-for-midnight-season-1-380436
Have fun, but not too much fun or we'll get nerfed 
smoky kayak
i have no idea what the forge does. i did the quest. its not yet active for a wh...
basically once a week we'll complete a quest to power it up, in ~6 weeks when 12.0.5 arrives, we'll use it to buff up our stuff and get more toys
specifics are still tbd, but the gist is the same - more/better gear
knotty orchid
is this real chat?
tough wing
Heroic strike feels like a piece of candy every time I get to cast it
It makes a really satisfying sound, like an axe blade thwacking into the meat of someone’s arm
tight wing
rank 4 parse on heroic dragons is a 93
rank 7 was like 70smth iirc lol
weak wave
basically once a week we'll complete a quest to power it up, in ~6 weeks when 12...
Is there a fix for the MS/HS macro?
vast helm
fix Arms
tight wing
don't use it imo, makes the rotation feel weird
weak wave
don't use it imo, makes the rotation feel weird
I liked it. We wanted to press HS before MS anyway.
novel belfry
so when will we shut down to make blizz aware?
smoky kayak
you first
novel belfry
i just read the non existent notes and im actually mad somehow, even though disapointment was expected but not on this scale
next sphinx
so when will we shut down to make blizz aware?
Never. Blizz loves us. They never mean to hurt us. Ion's been having a rough time and we all do collectively not have dinner on the table for him when he gets home.
minor gust
i just read the non existent notes and im actually mad somehow, even though disa...
shouldnt be surprising considering they just ignored all our complaints and feedback with the 12.05 changes. Frost mages got their changes reverted but not us!
next sphinx
but remember antorus guys? they'll give us that again some day
next sphinx
video technology was unable to handle what arms warriors did in Antorus.
dire hinge
still works for me
it seems to bug out randomly in different content. Basically can't use MS when it breaks, it's v. strange
haven't found a consistent pattern yet, it'll break while im just vibing in silvermoon, so it doesn't seem to be tied to expansion or open world
weak wave
try logging out and back in
Oh, really. Weired.
next sphinx
What???
torn rivet
wut
next sphinx
I maxed my Midnight cooking and I didn't see our spec in the recipes anywhere!!
torn rivet
I maxed my Midnight cooking and I didn't see our spec in the recipes anywhere!!
shoulda looked for burnt steak instead
smoky kayak
I maxed my Midnight cooking and I didn't see our spec in the recipes anywhere!!
that's cause we're still in The War Within
next sphinx
Maybe the true war is within us, for doubting Blizzard who has always loved us. Maybe they aren't giving us what we want but instead what we need: to accept the good we have.
torn rivet
guys wake tf up samurais
Blizzard and Arasaka are not far from eachother
they want to strip us of the only thing we cling to for joy: arms warrior
Then they will give us a piece of sh*t and ask for our thanks and maybe more money
I say we protest blizz hq
they can't keep getting away with it
next sphinx
Guys, if we all agree to pull our parses out of the Warcraftlogs tomorrow then they have to do what we want!!!
dire hinge
nah, do the opposite
literally play the spec as best as you can
numerically you can't do that well anyways, give them data to see it
it's all propped up by cleave atm
next sphinx
everyone else is gonna have to do real good tho cuz I have to type out something like hya, wah ha, EYAAAAH, etc between all my attacks (Pandaren) and I don't want to skew the data to much.
dire hinge
of course of course
torn rivet
it's all propped up by cleave atm
so, cleave less
smoky kayak
everyone else is gonna have to do real good tho cuz I have to type out something...
that's why we use macros
tawdry quail
I’ve just realised
That arms got zero tuning on the 24th patch
I’m done coping
Gg wp
unique steppe
yeah im not renewing my sub. fk it
torn rivet
yea tbh we should just do that
or not play arms at all, blizzard will see extremely low play rate( we're already here but cope goes brr)
and I don't understand why tf they don't listen to archi and the big bois' feedback about warrior in general
they say "yea we received their feedback" and proceed to do totally opposite
hushed pine
Because they don't think they're big or real issues
hushed pine
Antorus video was fury not arms
Hey, Execute phase for Legion Arms was goated anyways
I remember getting some 10m dots during Battle Cry Execute phases
But yeah atp, don't even play the game. You could play other classes, but what joy is there to be had if your main class and spec handles like utter dogshit
minor gust
Midnight arms isn't my ideal arms, but it doesn't play bad. It's got its issues like every iteration of arms has had, but slayer plays super well. 12.05 midnight arms tho uhh yeah the spec is fucking utter dogshit dead if those go through.
hushed pine
Something tells me it will go through, and if it does, it's just WoD 2.0 with Whirlwind/Cleave simulator
And undertuned no less 
minor gust
If 12.05 changes go through I'm not touching my warrior for the rest of the season after raid prog is over.
hushed pine
But that's my main issue with Arms' current iteration. To me it feels like, you can't have good ST and good aoe, it's one or the other.
minor gust
Just gonna blast some purple eyebeams
junior marsh
Best arms gameplay was legion with bladestorm helmet and execute ring and they haven’t got remotely close to that ever again
halcyon grove
And dat focused rage buffing mechanic was peak
slow saddle
Midnight arms isn't my ideal arms, but it doesn't play bad. It's got its issues ...
I mean having shitty st in any kind of situation does suck
minor gust
I am very much less concerned with tuning issues than actual gameplay issues
fiery zenith
Best arms gameplay was legion with bladestorm helmet and execute ring and they h...
so the legendaries that had effectively zero effect on the gameplay and just did good damage. Astounding gameplay loop
glad mango
Is it time to be cringe and threaten to close the discord to get buffs ? 
junior marsh
so the legendaries that had effectively zero effect on the gameplay and just did...
See so even you remember the good days
slow saddle
I am very much less concerned with tuning issues than actual gameplay issues
I mean when focus is pure aoe
And they remove sd proc, but keep cleave power
I hate em
And yes tuning. But also design choices
Thane 2 slayer 3% st difference
Whats gap of col and slayer now? In raid?
wind hatch
If 12.05 changes go through I'm not touching my warrior for the rest of the seas...
Surely they revert it
Right guys...? 
foggy quiver
When I was pointing out that’ are core problems with how the devs approach warriors tuning in general i was accused of dooming and negativity, ppl were even advocating for the devs, you don’t get to complain now, you play Arms warrior and spam cleave
Dk spent a few hours being okish and they responded faster than the light… i don’t remember reverting fury’s nerfs first season tww tho
wind hatch
Id say there's still time
I mean with how severe the backlash it would be insane if they didn't
fiery zenith
if the spec was a high performer not one of you would be complaining, at least be honest with yourselves that you care more about tuning than supposed design issues
icy magnet
What's the famous boss war need cleave at? And what's the build? Sorry out of the loop, quick search didn't help me xD
foggy quiver
I don’t think this is true to be fair, we complain about the gameplay for a long time,
thorn stream
if the spec was a high performer not one of you would be complaining, at least b...
Have nothing to complain then, slayer plays well atm
slow saddle
Dk spent a few hours being okish and they responded faster than the light… i don...
This
Also wasnt okayish it went from top to bottum in raid
slow saddle
if the spec was a high performer not one of you would be complaining, at least b...
I mean
If my spec does outlier dmg
But i gotta press cleave in st
stray vessel
cleave really better in st?
slow saddle
I complain. Thing is arms issues from a rotational spot have been good for ages
thorn stream
Also wasnt okayish it went from top to bottum in raid
That’s cope
thorn stream
Exactly for norm//hc
slow saddle
That being warrior would never get this treatment
thorn stream
Many eu guild didn’t even raid then i guess
slow saddle
Well its when they start tunint m8
foggy quiver
That being warrior would never get this treatment
Not only warrior to be fair, there are a few other specs that are in the low priority trash bin 🗑️
slow saddle
As?
foggy quiver
Ww monk
stray vessel
ww monk doing some awesome st tho
slow saddle
Changws
flat willow
yeah cuz they aren't disgusting unplayable
that's not the same as not getting changes when you are disgusting unplayable ( arms every expansion )
stray vessel
they had a big CD taken away and still are doing awesome dmg XD
stray vessel
true true
slow saddle
And pretty decent in the raid overall?
foggy quiver
Mid upper for raid and mid down for m+
next sphinx
Guys I just solod a tier 8 delve w/o dying. We are so back.
foggy quiver
Not only that, the dmg isn’t there
slow saddle
Mid down is perfectly fine in m+
chilly isle
Guys, can i have a sanity check please. Them buffing devourer but not touching arms is just them trying to make devourer op the first real tier its available right?
slow saddle
Guys, can i have a sanity check please. Them buffing devourer but not touching a...
Yes
stray vessel
we will get GTA 6 before a arms buff
slow saddle
Not only that, the dmg isn’t there
The dmg is there just not meta
At least b4 arms > fury
chilly isle
I just hope "the first tier they are available" isnt a forever modifier like pres or mage.
slow saddle
Lel
icy magnet
what build arms use for lightblinded vanguard ?
slow saddle
what build arms use for lightblinded vanguard ?
Col m+
flat willow
Guys, can i have a sanity check please. Them buffing devourer but not touching a...
these are 2 different questions, devorer being good for its first tier is a given but if you are saying that arms would get more attention if devorer didn't exist, you are coping
slow saddle
Nono it was more why let us die
foggy quiver
Arms definitely is a shitshow more than others but I believe that they do fucked ups in other specs too. But their favourite children are dks mages warlocks druids, maybe shamans and paladins
flat willow
oh, that would be because nobody gives a shit about arms warrior
next sphinx
Arms definitely is a shitshow more than others but I believe that they do fucked...
brotha dass half da classes
gray maple
we did it boys and no shaman buff too H vorasius
slow saddle
Love outgearing scrubs
foggy quiver
brotha dass half da classes
I know, half the classes are receiving good changes
next sphinx
we did it boys and no shaman buff too H vorasius
photoshop monk doesn't have a name like "MonkinDonuts" or "Bubblegut".
slow saddle
I mean most changes have been great to classes
Only arms seems totally left in design gutter
We cried for more rage for ages
Exexute and ms being goood dmg
Thats t
Like, we dont want the world
next sphinx
I want Blizz to give us a gun.
chilly isle
these are 2 different questions, devorer being good for its first tier is a give...
Nah that wasnt my point at all. But an already good spec getting buffed and arms didnt must surely have a reason. Im not claiming a causal relationship between the two.
slow saddle
We basicly the africa of wow. So much starvation
foggy quiver
They are busy yo-yoing dks
next sphinx
We basicly the africa of wow. So much starvation
At least Africa has diamonds. Blizzard gave us Demolish king.
slow saddle
At least Africa has diamonds. Blizzard gave us Demolish king.
We had diamonds it was called sl season 2🤣
foggy quiver
Another round of great changes
slow saddle
I dont understand
Easy win
Reap only proccs of sd
Lean into design
Remove from other spells
Fixxed works
Well
Imho reap on bt // ms // cleave is unhealthy
Reap on sd is essential
I wanna press bt coz its good not coz it can reap
foggy quiver
They are bad at their jobs, easy as that, don’t forget that even tho for us it’s a game for some ppl it’s a job and you can be bad at your job
next sphinx
Maybe try housing for now?
stray vessel
made my house a 1 bedroon apartment
flat willow
may I suggest rolling unholy in these trying times?
slow saddle
Unless they giving us clap on execute talent in class tree🤣
junior remnant
they should fix mastery first not that basic lazy shit they introduced this expansion
slow saddle
Mastery is. Fine
flat willow
if every arms player left rolls to another class, they might consider doing something
or they might make warrior a 2 spec class
foggy quiver
I’ve seen a coworker of mine once pick up the phone upside down and took him 2 minutes to figure it out
slow saddle
if every arms player left rolls to another class, they might consider doing some...
My alt is uhdl, so i get to feel seen
slow saddle
I’ve seen a coworker of mine once pick up the phone upside down and took him 2 m...
He prob arms dev on the side
slow saddle
Forever remember arms had mid st
serene geyser
Just read next weeks tuning. This shit is getting ridiculous isnt it?
slow saddle
Nerfed 20% ms 20% execute 33% dw
And we hit gutter st
Now aura tune that makes cleave 2 strong..
This dev man
stray vessel
dev's side job is prolly waffle house
near ice
Shitty thing is, the spec is fun to play imo. Numbers are just a little off
flat willow
that's not their fault, ms and exec must get their 20% nerf at the launch of every expansion
it's a little ritual they have at blizzard
brings luck
foggy quiver
Probably
I don’t know if it’s specific spells or just obliterate a warrior spec every expansion
slow saddle
Shitty thing is, the spec is fun to play imo. Numbers are just a little off
I mean col needs more
But slayers pretty good
gentle gyro
Cant fucking wait for 12.0.5 when they fucking remove RtS from sd
And somehow make the spec even worse
slow saddle
🤣
stray vessel
now we see why paladins did what they did
flat willow
paladins wear clown shoes
they got more work put into ret paladin from dragonflight to midnight than 90% of specs
all they achieved by closing their discord was people making fun of ret paladins even more than they used to
thorn stream
I wanna press bt coz its good not coz it can reap
I’d rather press ms than bt
frail helm
I wonder what the thought process behind the reap the storm changes even was
Or if there even was one
Those changes are perhaps the most objectively dog shit trash I've ever read
cosmic halo
Can't wait for Rs to never proc again
next sphinx
Don't worry guys, I asked Meta AI to write a prayer we can say before we go to bed.
"Our Father, who art in Azeroth,
Hallowed be thy name.
Thy fury reigns,
Thy will be done,
In Norgannon, as it is in Orgrimmar.
Give us this day our daily Execute,
And forgive us our whiffs,
As we forgive those who whiff against us.
Lead us not into rage quit,
But deliver us from patch notes.
For thine is the power,
The fury, and the glory,
Forever and ever,
Amen."
woven rune
Next patch notes they will buff warrior n then call it an april fools joke :)
vagrant void
question, reading a slayer st build that didnt take battlelord is this right?
or whats the reason why we dont
tropic crest
Honestly this Arms M+ build is so fking fun. Also it is doing great overall. If you can avoid Full ST fights (pulling pack into boss etc) our output is great. I don’t get why so many keep complain here. You can play it better probably.
thick kelp
"You can do good on ST if you make it aoe and hit the not boss enemies"
halcyon valve
Don't worry guys, I asked Meta AI to write a prayer we can say before we go to b...
Ew
AI + turning us into paladins (warriors dont pray)
royal needle
WE PRAY TO ODYN
topaz condor
shouldn't this discord be closed ? :3
thick kelp
no :3
topaz condor
sad, some of you must come with me knocking on blizzard's door
next sphinx
Ew
AI + turning us into paladins (warriors dont pray)
I asked it to make it shorter for us king.
"Oh God of Azeroth, buff my Arms Warrior,
Grant me mortal strikes and crits galore,
Shield me with rage and rend my foes,
In the name of Agony, I gear up! 😎"
halcyon valve
I asked it to make it shorter for us king.
"Oh God of Azeroth, buff my Arms War...
Still cringe
topaz condor
Honestly this Arms M+ build is so fking fun. Also it is doing great overall. If ...
I don't feel like Arms will pull up such dps in M+, because after your burst is over, the only damage you can pray for is cleave under 35% hp. You will have to have a good tank to keep up with others specs. + bosses are going to be longer, and it really sucks in single target. I bet a good monk tank can outshine us all in m+ talents
next sphinx
Still cringe
Alright dude. I got you. Asked it to make it a chant instead of a prayer. "RAAAAHHH! MORTAL STRIKES FOR ME! REND THE FOE! 😎"
silk ice
Are you AI?
next sphinx
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silk ice
Incredible
odd ledge
Nice ram usage
next sphinx
Please thumbs up only the really bad images that did not meet the prompt. Im trying to train this model to be absolutely terrible. Thank you.
tropic crest
I don't feel like Arms will pull up such dps in M+, because after your burst is ...
You would lose ur bet
uncut yacht
I don't feel like Arms will pull up such dps in M+, because after your burst is ...
Arms will pull good numbers in M+, cleave is way to juiced up not to. The issue is, the number 1 reason for bricking keys (outside of trolling pulls) are tyranical bosses
there is a reason why in legion when tyranic and fortified would change each weeek fortified max key was always 2 3 keys higher
When you push high you cannot give up on ST
why settle for a class that juices aoe and trolls st when you have classes that stomp both
and thus your niche just dies
nova marsh
Almost as if that wasnt suppose to be arms's niche
uncut yacht
Almost as if that wasnt suppose to be arms's niche
agreed, but his current niche is cleave, budum tuss
nova marsh
God blizz please rework this spex
oak flame
They are literally buffing every Class in the game except arms.
It’s a joke
nova marsh
I mean not true
Arms was buffed
It wasnt enough, but it was buffed
Shame frost dk wasnt thou and their goal with the second tuning looked like fine tuning on specs they didn't already hit mostly besides demo lock
rough pewter
rare kite
nah arms getting punished coz good on paladin boss
vast helm
we dead
zenith warren
any ideas why @player ravager macro says invalid target/you have no target? Ive been using it since i remember
zenith warren
also I assume I delay demolish few seconds if avatar and cs is about to refresh or just send
apl doesnt say but it just feels wrong ^^
thick kelp
apl doesnt say but it just feels wrong ^^
actions.colossus_st+=/demolish,if=debuff.colossus_smash.up&buff.colossal_might.stack>0
the only demolish line in apl
stable fiber
i dont like reading that
when are they fixing alnseer colossus arms warrior
on raidbots
tall socket
New wave of tuning, warr completely ignored again...
deft bluff
nova marsh
But guya
Week 1 logs say we're fine cuz of vanguard (I stg that ONE BOSS will prevent buffs)
crystal nexus
would it be problematic for heroic strike to give stacks of colossal might? seems weird for it not to
stable fiber
Doesn't do anything for slayer which is weird
Typically it should benefit both hero talents
lone yarrow
Week 1 logs say we're fine cuz of vanguard (I stg that ONE BOSS will prevent buf...
unironically type of fights like vanguard is where arms SHOULD be the top of the top due to his nature with sweeping strikes but somehow we can't also have manageable ST at the same time
stable fiber
We aren't even top because of sweep though
Arms is just so disgustingly overtuned on 3t
crystal nexus
idk if it's just me, but it feels hard to get above 5 stacks of colossal might on the first pull in dungeon, whereas last xpac i was in the range of 8-10 before colossus smash was about to wear of
stable fiber
First pulls are pretty bad for arms
Both hero talents suffer from a buff that needs you to be hitting prior
Also
lone yarrow
We aren't even top because of sweep though
I mean yeah not this case specifically just in general these types of encounters
stable fiber
You intend for that to be a aoe buff which is the opposite of what we need
kindred breach
buff cleave nerf ms & exe
stable fiber
Pls stop
kindred breach
crystal nexus
i'm just happy there's no more juggernaut, such a pain in the ass maintaining it, especially with intermissions in boss fights