Legion warriro
#arms
slow saddle
stable fiber
nah
2 raid wide defensives, tank defensives in a expansion where tanks take damage on purpose, 2 raid wide buffs, aoe uncapped kick
a couple other things also
also skull banner just being the most broken thing ever
stable fiber
skull banner used on fights with damage amps and shit genuinely can do more damage then players in your raid
minor gust
Thats all that truly really mattered for M+ anyways.
balmy kindle
It's never coming back lads
There's the wait for 2 months gang 
carmine frigate
Played arms before Xmas, any massive changes to the playstyle as I’m thinking of coming back for Midnight
sweet tangle
vital summit
You're just doing no damage as an arms Warrior anymore
And you might compete with tanks on dps
If they are afk
halcyon valve
vapid bay
arms has been crying for a massive core rework for a long time now, damage can always be tuned
halcyon valve
lmao
untold pewter
arms has been crying for a massive core rework for a long time now, damage can a...
Well then they should freaking tune it at least
fresh spire
winged owl
How you guys holding up
obsidian otter
Yes
slender sonnet
gentle gyro
keen stirrup
grave mulch
sharp dust
gentle gyro
mortal niche
but atleast it'l feel fun..right?
slow saddle
thorn stream
but atleast it'l feel fun..right?
this is subjective
gentle gyro
but atleast it'l feel fun..right?
Feels terrible atm, even in Slayer
mortal niche
ngl always hated slayer so, it is what it is
slow saddle
Y but its way better
mortal niche
shame I liked thane as a theme early on but just hate fury so never got to play it much
slow saddle
Thane wouldda been a good arms spec
mortal niche
slayer being +% damage across the board with no real change is zz
slow saddle
Sd on reap is 100%
mortal niche
hadnt actually looked at the apex and wow..heroic strike is finally coming back holy
gentle gyro
Sd on reap is 100%
SD is RNG is what I meant
slow saddle
Not rly
gentle gyro
Alright
slow saddle
Its a decent ppm
So not like theres a big difference on a per pull basid
U can hold 2 charges as well
thorn stream
or make smth generate rage in execute range (op ?)
slow saddle
Nah fam thats 2 easy
🤣
Or give us 200 rage.so u can pool
Coz atm with good op luck u sit at cap
But then hs proc into efe into hs proc
Also they could just make hs free
Adding an ability that costs rage as an apex talent( only in st) is just a crime
slow saddle
Truth
I mean issue should prio hs > all
If not, tuning is shit
Then addin hs requires rage
slow saddle
Tbh 20%
thorn stream
wouldnt really hurt in our state ye
im looking forward to give them the 3/4 apex undertuned arms data till 17th
(not that it will change a thing)
torpid badge
Hey
Is arms (gameplay wise, I know the damage situation 😭) fun in MN?
If I enjoyed it in DF
thick kelp
yeah
inner wasp
where's this from lmao
torpid badge
where's this from lmao
Zorthas M+ tier list video
spark mango
Is arms (gameplay wise, I know the damage situation 😭) fun in MN?
sometimes the fun it brings is similar to arms in Tbc, you are waiting for your auto attacks to generate rage to have fun
slow saddle
Yup, but if they gave us just a bit more rage
torpid badge
Oh
slow saddle
Slayers fun
torpid badge
Why TF are half of the specs genuinely classic-tbc-wrath level now
If I wanted to play classic I'd play classic
spark mango
honestly blizzard is working on our attention span and patience damaged by youtube shorts
its a very zen class rightnow
slow saddle
Why TF are half of the specs genuinely classic-tbc-wrath level now
Most specs are decent
Blizzard never knew how to tune rage
torpid badge
Whats even the point of one button assistant when most classes are 3 button speca now, only two more to press lol
Aight rantend
slow saddle
Well
torpid badge
Most specs are decent
Yeah that's true
slow saddle
Arms isnt a 3 spec
torpid badge
Hurray!
slow saddle
We just a dead spec
torpid badge
Its a 3 damage spec
slow saddle
Yup
slow saddle
Unless its aoe
Then u cleave like a god
Which is why any aura buff must include a buff to ms // exe // dw
Or a reverse of the nerf
inner wasp
what happened with deep wounds again
they gave it to fury then nerfed it?
does fury still have deep wounds
dim basalt
Yeah its the same for every spec pretty much
inner wasp
does ms not deep wound anymore?
dim basalt
Thats another capstone talent, MS / Cleave crits apply a DW that has a diff spell id
inner wasp
does that mean they stack
dim basalt
They stack with themselves but not with each other, if you meant that
As in, DW applied by execute ignite, same with DW applied by MS, but MS does not ignite the DW by exe
inner wasp
wtf is ignite
dim basalt
Damage gets added on top
inner wasp
ic
thick kelp
mage spell
inner wasp
As in, DW applied by execute ignite, same with DW applied by MS, but MS does not...
doesn't this mean they'd override each other
and do 0 damage
dim basalt
If you have a spell with 1k damage over 6 seconds and half the debuff is over you have 500 damage left, ignite means you add the rest 500 damage on top of the freshly applied 1k for 1.5 in total
dim basalt
doesn't this mean they'd override each other
If they didnt have different spell ids that would be the case, but they do
inner wasp
like say u execute a few times and have a stacked bleed
dim basalt
Just see them as completely different debuffs
dim basalt
You have 2 different DWs on the enemy
inner wasp
ok ok
dim basalt
Its weird /shrug
inner wasp
but they did give fury deep wounds and then nerf it right
im looking for an excuse to blame fury for arms getting nerfed
dim basalt
Nah this time its not Furys fault
dim basalt
They changed the damage breakdown of Arms and lowballed some buffs
Followed by random nerfs
untold trench
Explain the Demolish nerf
slow saddle
Oh y 60% dreadnaught
slow saddle
Explain the Demolish nerf
Prot 2 good
dim basalt
The funny part about demo is that they buffed it not long before
untold trench
If it aint flat, it will be nerfed, you know this
slow saddle
Trueth we are not hunter
icy mulch
inner wasp
If it aint flat, it will be nerfed, you know this
im flat
fresh spire
olive nest
neon hedge
Guys is arms meta?
slender urchin
fresh spire
Yeh
unborn canyon
fresh spire
See how I see it is. If I think I'm playing fury and they under buff arms then I can't get sad it's shit. But if they over buff it I can be happy to play it
pale glade
I refuse to give Ion the satisfaction of changing specs. I play out of spite
edgy pendant
when was the last time arms was any good?
fresh spire
S2
minor gust
sharp wyvern
arms comeback arc happening on the 17th
olive nest
Season 2 TWW was the first time gearing arms for raid was accepted lmao
Well unless you’re Hrothmar that guys always slinging arms
😎
spark mango
Don't forget about shirly
olive nest
True true cool guy
visual fern
slender sonnet
holy
boreal remnant
tawdry quail
https://tenor.com/view/requindeshanghai-gif-5178885307749862965
Facts
high snow
arms is so dangerous it needs a tier of its own
abstract cairn
silk spade
https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-26017314
boreal remnant
bleak arrow
Who did it.
boreal remnant
fresh spire
cate
knotty orchid
minor gust
gentle gyro
jade ember
inland tartan
that bad, huh
high snow
they should rename the spec Wrists
nova marsh
arms comeback arc happening on the 17th
Please...Please for the love of god\
narrow flax
is there a default way with edit mode to enable your rage bar?
gentle gyro
Really well done
peak hound
We got a whole Reddit post about arms being bad, I wonder if it’s enough
bleak arrow
Enough to nerf
peak hound
“Slam buffed by 10%”
rare kite
We got a whole Reddit post about arms being bad, I wonder if it’s enough
3% buff on the 17th. maybe some extra cleave damage just to fuck up the profile even more
bleak arrow
Cleave isn’t strong enough till it’s taken in ST
timid saffron
We got a whole Reddit post about arms being bad, I wonder if it’s enough
link?
cloud dawn
when was the last time arms was any good?
S3 DF
quick badge
Surely arms will get a meaningful buff in the first wave of class tuning 
knotty orchid
they will overbuff arms
it will be strong for 3 days
and be nerfed again to be useless until next exp
calm tartan
Was not disappointed when I clicked on here to check on yall
sharp wyvern
yeah we are fine since we know the 17th brings salvation
daring heron
daring heron
xd
sharp wyvern
arms warriors are the only ones who actually manage to sandbag over a large period of time
we are just build different
daring heron
s tier for being the undisputed worst spec in the game
minor gust
Arms in 5 big booms for execute = execute nerf before content is even out
WW untouched that tier
vale gorge
Are we going to close the channel so ?
sharp wyvern
we are not ret paladins
cobalt lodge
Ret is apparently dog tier as well according to a few rets i spoke to
spiral coral
Ret is apparently dog tier as well according to a few rets i spoke to
Sandbaggers
calm tartan
look i know we're the unga bunga class but i think ret paladins have even fewer braincells than us somehow maybe we shouldnt listen to them
spiral coral
I don’t think ret is that bad, will likely see a buff cause they always do, but they do have the best healer going into midnight though.
Imagine playing pally and only playing one spec and complaining about the whole class because the spec you like isn’t as good as you want it to be.
Sandbaggin’ bitches.
minor gust
I don’t think ret is that bad, will likely see a buff cause they always do, but ...
Blizz doesn't take into account other specs like holy and prot when tuning. They only do if it's a triple DPS spec. They said in an interview if a triple DPS spec has a spec performing very well and one that's not they tend not to worry too much about the lower one unlike a class that only has one DPS spec
fading isle
grizzled falcon
Blizz doesn't take into account other specs like holy and prot when tuning. They...
So what you’re saying is we need fury to turn into a healer spec.
calm tartan
A warrior healer that yells at you until you get back up
grizzled falcon
spiral coral
Blizz doesn't take into account other specs like holy and prot when tuning. They...
I know. I have a weird qualm with players who have a healer/tank/dps choice, only decide to play one, then bitch about the whole class. It’s just, fuckin’ odd to me.
minor gust
I meannnn if you don't like tanking or healing I don't see the problem. What's odd is the people who refuse to play the other DPS specs when they play a class with multiple xD
minor gust
So what you’re saying is we need fury to turn into a healer spec.
Basically... If you wondered why in S3 of TWW arms only got the one 8% buff and nothing else was because fury was really good.
quartz current
anyone know how arms is performing right now?
quartz current
i was maining fury but im looking to try out arms
modern cove
anyone know how arms is performing right now?
bad
spiral coral
i was maining fury but im looking to try out arms
Stay fury.
quartz current
yikes
modern cove
you can enjoy all the power of arms and do some good heroic strikes with the new apex talents while leveling, at lvl 90 you must respec fury
sharp wyvern
I'ma be one of 5 heroic arms parses on the 17th
everyone is gonna be arms on the 17th cause of the buffs
minor gust
5% aura buff ain't gonna save us
sharp wyvern
we have to play arms in heroic dungeons tho so blizz gets data on how bad it actually is
edgy pendant
the data is there but no work is done to addres the spec. arms need a whole rework in my opinion, but fury gets all the atention
warped fable
just entirely rework arms to play like a blademaster 😔
oak kite
calm isle
Jeus, just came back from months of hibernation. Arms is F tier?
Are we in skip Midnight levels of bad
nova marsh
I meannnn if you don't like tanking or healing I don't see the problem. What's o...
We call those people true one tricks
Like me lmao
nova marsh
Are we in skip Midnight levels of bad
Until we get buffs l, if you play exclusively arms....yeah dont even bother
Also I thought EA was the 27th
river ridge
Are we in skip Midnight levels of bad
It'll be fine. They've announced 4 specific dates they'll be doing tuning and adjusting classes and specs. Despite being low damage you'll be fine for leveling and heroic dungeons until the 17th
nova marsh
It'll be fine. They've announced 4 specific dates they'll be doing tuning and ad...
They'll nerf arms again 
Jokes aside, I think the damage is already done due to tier lists
river ridge
Jokes aside, I think the damage is already done due to tier lists
I mean the same was said about S3 Fury for M+ and look what happened after hotfix
nova marsh
Yesh but the thing is
Fury is a liked spec
Idk man
I just think arms is cooked for this season
river ridge
We'll never be as bad as WoD do nothing for 30% of your GCDs
nova marsh
Dont give blizzard ideas
pulsar frost
It'll be fine. They've announced 4 specific dates they'll be doing tuning and ad...
What are the dates by any chance
river ridge
I think first one is the 17th of March, and than every week after for 4 weeks? I gotta double check.
calm isle
Thanks for the pep talk ❤️
river ridge
What are the dates by any chance
Yeah its March 17th, March 24th, March 31st, and April 7th. With the asterisk of, "We may also hotfix any especially disruptive bugs or tuning issues at any point in time"
brazen falcon
if they wanted arms to do damage theyd have called it harms
silk lake
So is there any point in playing arms? I wanna cause the whole power fantasy big bonk but if we're worst spec I won't get to do anything
rare kite
So is there any point in playing arms? I wanna cause the whole power fantasy big...
yes, you can insult people if you beat them on the meters. big reason to play arms
you may get banned but that is a risk i'm willing to take
dull tendon
If you are 1 of only 100 arms warriors parsing you are automatically top 100 Arms warrior.
hallow quail
So is there any point in playing arms? I wanna cause the whole power fantasy big...
DW 5% aura buff inc
quasi torrent
X
tired sinew
i miss my "in def stance" WA.. went though 80% of a dungeon in def stance.. thinking why my dmg was slow low.. hahaha
sudden topaz
silver wasp
tired sinew
https://addons.wago.io/addons/defensive-stance-reminder
thanks so much.. was trying to remember what it wa called
gentle gyro
💀
coarse ferry
tired sinew
Increased arms warrior damage by 3%
i think you missed out reducing dmg on some other abilities
spark mango
they wanted to nerf raging blow build by nerfing the slayer talents, they ended up also nerfing overpower
arms stray nerfs because of prot and fury has been a thing since release of hero talents
gentle gyro
arms stray nerfs because of prot and fury has been a thing since release of hero...
Literally what I said yesterday
Hero talents were a mistake
Hot take, I feel like apex talents are gonna age like milk as well
Instead of forcing people speccing Into apex talents and losing essential spec talent points, a lot of this stuff could be just baked in the spec, in the spec selection screen.
dim basalt
Instead of forcing people speccing Into apex talents and losing essential spec t...
You dont lose essential spec talent points?
Because the 4 you use for apex are the ones you get from levelling to 90
So it really doesnt matter whether you have them baseline right away and get no points at all or use the 4 for the apex talents
thorn stream
they wanted to nerf raging blow build by nerfing the slayer talents, they ended ...
why didnt they just nerf it for fury ?
fresh spire
spark mango
You dont lose essential spec talent points?
right now arms only does decent st damage if you reach battlelord while also reaching marked for death
you cant go 4/4 apex
dim basalt
right now arms only does decent st damage if you reach battlelord while also rea...
Which youre not supposed to though
spark mango
well its a design flaw on their part.the cd reduction on warbreaker does more harm then good
whats the point of cd reduction when if bladestorm is close you have to hold anyway
fresh spire
As far as I know there is an attempt to try get avatar added to 4/4. But if they do it is another question. 3/4 is the staple across the entire spec
dim basalt
Considering most tanks also dont run 4/4 apex it does seem like Arms is a tank now
fresh spire
Relatable feeling
gentle gyro
You dont lose essential spec talent points?
Yes you do
fresh spire
We ran 1/4 on sims for a long while until they nerfed other stuff enough that 2 and 3 became pretty decent lol
dim basalt
halcyon valve
Except they run 1/4 instead of 3/4
apex talents are weird anyway tho tbh
if they want us to take them a all times, why are they talents at all, where would be the decision
spark mango
could easily have seperate talents point like hero talents
easily
then they could tweak them knowing everyone has 4 points, rather than this
dim basalt
then they could tweak them knowing everyone has 4 points, rather than this
Technically everyone has these 4 points
But it really does suck when the apex talents are so undertuned its not worth taking all 4
Which is more of an exception
Im very certain they dont want them to be a choice but a must take
Where then it wouldnt matter whether theyre hero talents or not
spark mango
you have 4 extra talent points you can put anywhere, i meant just have seperate points, class, spec, hero, apex
dim basalt
Yeah thats my point
They dont want you to have the option but they suck at balancing
We want them to be good and casuals want cool class fantasy
So in theory they could satisfy both parties
And Im not sure if theres any spec with boring apex talents (from a casual pov)
spark mango
i mean legion artifacts, you would put points in all of them and had good fantasy
and you could satisfy your inner nerd somewhere else
gentle gyro
apex talents are weird anyway tho tbh
if they want us to take them a all times, ...
Exactly what I said
And you lose a ton cleave, sweeping strikes related stuff in the spec tree
Maybe some people love to swap builds Inbetween trash / boss pulls idk
thorn stream
They dont know how
but they can make it work for other classes
thick kelp
yeah
thorn stream
they were probably just lazy on warrior
silver wasp
thorn stream
nerf deathstalkers mark explicitely for assassination instead for both specs
as example
spark mango
they do it for prot and fury thane aswell most of the time
but arms catches both colossus and slayer nerfs
halcyon valve
Apex talents should have been mutually exclusive talents connected to your capstones imo but at this point whatever man
mystic python
https://addons.wago.io/addons/defensive-stance-reminder
I just have /cast !battle stance
on my csmash macro so it makes sure I'm in battle stance before starting any burst window.
fickle oar
So we really heading into launch in this state huh
fickle oar
Numbers wise probably but the gameplay of arms feels shit right now at least imo
thorn stream
then you might need to play smth else - i dont think playstyle will change in s1
floral hornet
Arms apex talents should've been based around execute, give them condemn and uber empower execute
daring creek
Is it possible, they will buff arms in 2-3 weeks after launch? At least to "B-tier" spec
gentle gyro
Is it possible, they will buff arms in 2-3 weeks after launch? At least to "B-t...
It's possible, but improbable
mortal niche
Is it possible, they will buff arms in 2-3 weeks after launch? At least to "B-t...
it's the cost of bringing heroic strike back
swift crown
we got the tech but the devs dont know how to use it for warriors
So you're saying there's a long standing skill issue present that impedes design and gameplay? shocked pikachu
Throwback to when they buffed Disintegrate for Evoker by 76% at once because not once but twice they added a modifier to Disintegrate's direct damage instead of damage over time
dense sphinx
slow saddle
then you might need to play smth else - i dont think playstyle will change in s1
Legit if we get 10/20% more rage
Gameplay is fixxed
fresh spire
slow saddle
Imho at least slayer plays well
fresh spire
tired sinew
Still playing arms though. Hahaha
austere solar
With housing we can use our strong arms to be carpenters. No need to be warrior anymore.
We are done with demolishing stuff, now we are peacefull builders.
dim basalt
slender sonnet
They're gonna make arms do 0 damage next
They clearly just don't want it to be played right
gentle gyro
Be hopeful
rough otter
builders guild, former arms warrior players
misty sandal
I've done a ton of dps on critters, so idk why this is making it seem like arms is bad.
twilit flare
Brothers, I am a first time warrior main for my raid team. I am so excited and proud to go into this expansion playing the most dog shit spec. I can't wait to somehow out dps a top performing spec. I refuse to play fury until bullied, which is my kink, so I think this will all work out in the long run. We hold.
bleak arrow
Why would you as a first time warrior auto lock arms. Crazy.
novel vale
I auto locked Arms like a decade ago and now i'm just too committed to the bit to ever play fury
dim basalt
I auto locked Arms like a decade ago and now i'm just too committed to the bit t...
They play almost the same nowadays
novel vale
I wouldn't know
dim basalt
Literally takes 5 minutes to learn Fury when youre used to Arms
novel vale
I don't see how that would ever come up
thorn stream
They play almost the same nowadays
not for me
rough otter
xD
dim basalt
last saddle
give fury colossus smash back
rough otter
why the fuck they put rend on fury
dim basalt
They better buff thane so its the hero spec in every content
rough otter
i cant even see a logic behind this
last saddle
chatgpt designed our talent tree this expac its chill
grok, summarize for me what the warrior talent trees for my small indie game should be next expac
rough otter
"apex talents" such a cool name what kind of new stuff it will be ?
heroic strike
twilit flare
cant even get mythic strike
fresh spire
"apex talents" such a cool name what kind of new stuff it will be ?
heroic stri...
Nothing
Slam take it or leave it
olive nest
Slam with a cool icon once and a while that makes it do more damage
topaz python
cant even get mythic strike
say thanks that it's not LFR strike
abstract cairn
Chance to double hit, no rend, big strike as Apex and make Colossus cool
olive nest
bleak arrow
spark mango
why the fuck they put rend on fury
what do you mean? fury cant slash good enough for enemies to bleed for a while?
fury also has deep wounds now because fury is also capeable of of shoving their weapon deep in enemies body
fresh spire
Fury is now a bleed spec
spark mango
and arms is like a teenage girl, exploring for identity
olive nest
spark mango
if we get a two target boss fight and arms is not top dps by far, idenitiy is lost and you have to look far for it
since its not even execute spec anymore
marble valve
I can't take it anymore guys
spark mango
fury is so well designed with a bit of buff can be top dps in many fights
arms on other hand is suffering from very bad design
dim basalt
Raid is spread cleave, melee is useless there
spark mango
i think they asked the arms designer to design 1 talent over at fury and he came up with rampaging ruin, thats it
wide apex
U can crank numbers up on bad design just fine
olive nest
RB as lower prio filler is just bad feeling to me going to be a rough season..
sacred zodiac
i think they asked the arms designer to design 1 talent over at fury and he came...
there definitely is more than 1 person assigned to warrior cluegi
spark mango
RB as lower prio filler is just bad feeling to me going to be a rough season..
well, you were pressing rb for an entire season, should be a welcome change
marble valve
RB as lower prio filler is just bad feeling to me going to be a rough season..
RB is my least favorite spell all time
sacred zodiac
RB as lower prio filler is just bad feeling to me going to be a rough season..
idk prio between rb and bt has been swapping for years now this complaint feels fake asf
olive nest
season 3 df we straight up didn't have it
That’s actually a fair point I like Anni build
spark mango
there definitely is more than 1 person assigned to warrior cluegi
and i'm certain none of them play warrior, my conspiracy theory is that its a team consisting of rets and mages
olive nest
It’s probably a team of class designers that collaborate on all of them and they of course have their favorites, warrior just seems to not be anyones favorite so doesn’t get much love
spark mango
slayer fury in dungeons feels great to me. apart from times i apply rend
abstract cairn
It's weird, it's the most explored classfantasy of all and they still fail at it
spark mango
they cant finish watching berserk till the end, they soft, they hate warrior
olive nest
idk prio between rb and bt has been swapping for years now this complaint feels ...
BT on cooldown isn’t bad really I just prefer spamming RB and dislike the addition of rend tbh
sacred zodiac
BT on cooldown isn’t bad really I just prefer spamming RB and dislike the additi...
simply Ignore it
you probably will gain dps from not having to track rend
olive nest
🤣 likely
olive nest
they cant finish watching berserk till the end, they soft, they hate warrior
“They soft” about sums it up
spark mango
+18 gambit, prepatch
crushing blow lower than them with 1%, so raging blow is 3% combined
with apex talent we gonna rampage more, so i suspect these numbers drop even further
forest hearth
Gonna take a wild guess and assume the engineering armor pieces are garbage again?
wary steppe
Class design feels all over the place very sloppy
fresh spire
+18 gambit, prepatch
Dropping all the rb talents for bt ones since bt just tuned better feelsbadmsn
eternal edge
@smoky kayak there is no raid build for arms in your cheat sheet panel, we're too bad for this? (probably a mistake but i prefer laugh about the situation aha)
spark mango
can i see the cheat sheet, idk where it is
kindred breach
<@61282228017041408> there is no raid build for arms in your cheat sheet panel, ...
it's the secret blizzard build
eternal edge
can i see the cheat sheet, idk where it is
spark mango
ah ok, i thought you meant spreadsheet
eternal edge
nope
so are we so bad that ppl are saying currently? i don't want to raid in fury spec 🙁
cobalt lodge
is scaling for leveling dungeons fucked? just did a black rook hold where 2 seperate tanks where getting hit for 90% hp per melee swing on bosses. and my damage was a fraction of what i do on overworld mobs.
misty sandal
is scaling for leveling dungeons fucked? just did a black rook hold where 2 sepe...
Probably that. It could also be the tank not being at a level high enough to get their big defensives.
halcyon valve
Arms Warrior DPS Guide - Midnight:
Play anything else
kindred breach
4 weeks of nerfs incoming
flip the sims upside down and arms is top!!!1111111!1111
tired sinew
i will still cope for arms. just till 17 mar. also rend on fury is the most stupid idea ever.
white stratus
hate to say it but i think prot warrior is where its at for pvp
smoky kayak
<@61282228017041408> there is no raid build for arms in your cheat sheet panel, ...
lol no it’s actually a bug with that particular build and for no reason that I can discern
I kicked it up to the devs to look at…. But there’s no ST content in the preseason anyway so it doesn’t matter
rapid bronze
more posts about Arms today on Reddit the normies are doing god's work
eternal edge
more posts about Arms today on Reddit the normies are doing god's work
Wdym?
rapid bronze
over the past 2-3 days there have been lots of posts on Reddit complaining about the state of arms and most of the people commenting are normie types who hate how much it sucks now
there's another one today, it's good because they pay attention to that sort of feedback
spiral coral
there's another one today, it's good because they pay attention to that sort of ...
I truly hope they don’t read anything form Reddit
Brain rot hive mind
rapid bronze
they respond with a lot more alacrity to choruses of complaints on reddit
and as long as they're all saying arms is shit please fix it I'm fine with it
spiral coral
they respond with a lot more alacrity to choruses of complaints on reddit
You have zero proof of this.
rapid bronze
ok mom
old urchin
Brain rot hive mind
And discord is better somehow? Lol
rapid bronze
no I don't have documented sources with evidence correlated to patch notes lmao
marsh estuary
hoping i atleast get invites for mythic 0's
oblique oar
hoping i atleast get invites for mythic 0's
spec fury before applying, change when accepted
dim basalt
spec fury before applying, change when accepted
Ah, the SV strat
crimson grail
Ah, the SV strat
the ole tried and true for feral druids
tight wing
SV?
tight wing
ohhh ty
fickle oar
there's another one today, it's good because they pay attention to that sort of ...
Yeah but Reddit is only complaining about the numbers right and not the actual feel of how it plays? No clue what the general opinion is in this discord but even if it got buffed I think the rotation feels ass right now
I can’t even pinpoint exactly why, one of the problems being the cooldowns just feel like they don’t sync with each other at all
rapid bronze
I think yesterday's top post was about why is slam still in the game, today it's about arms design being horrible and bloated and like it's from another game compared to ret
the tuning issue pops up whenever there's a post about dps numbers and such
fickle oar
Also yeah my arms warrior now seems to have more rotational abilities than anything else I’m playing right now
It’s like it didn’t even get pruned
spiral coral
And discord is better somehow? Lol
no and i never made the comparison
tight wing
I don't get the point of fatality if you never have a chance to build it up
are you just supposed to hold sudden death till 5 stacks?
lyric hound
I think yesterday's top post was about why is slam still in the game, today it's...
You know as a former ret main as of this expansion I look at arms and truly don’t understand how they haven’t been able to “fix” the class fantasy. When you compare ret pre-rework to now you can see how simple it all could be. Rend being one that really stands out to me. Like how come you can get Execution Sentence and Final Reckoning in one button but Mortal Strike and Rend can’t be? Why can Ret have Wings on Wake but Demolish and Avatar can’t be in sync? The level of effort they have put into arms compared to just 1 other spec is funny to me
mortal niche
15years later and blizzard still havent truly broken the pve/pvp split on specs
shadow ibex
Spend time reworking something 1400 will play in raid
clever bluff
Cuz its a pvp spec
Even though Fury has been better than arms for the past 3 expacs every season
shadow ibex
Splitting hairs really, both have been shadows of former self
spiral coral
Even though Fury has been better than arms for the past 3 expacs every season
Fury was hot garbage season 1 tww
gaunt owl
Fury had some turbo niche
fallen elbow
Fury was hot garbage season 1 tww
?
clever bluff
Fury was hot garbage season 1 tww
?
gaunt owl
and shit tier ST for a long time
mortal niche
I'm convinced blizzard doesnt know what to do with niches anymore
or rather specialties
lyric hound
You can say it’s a PvP spec I guess. But like they can tune pve and PvP separately. Also ret is what top 2 right now? Everything I said still applies to rets PvP so 🤷♂️ it’s just lazy dev. There isn’t really an excuse for them in my humble opinion
fallen elbow
https://www.wowhead.com/news/the-war-within-season-1-dps-rankings-final-week-of-...
but isnt that after all the nerfs to fury tho
shadow ibex
They didn't even tune hero specs separately
clever bluff
https://www.wowhead.com/news/the-war-within-season-1-dps-rankings-final-week-of-...
We were talking about pvp broski
spiral coral
It stayed garbage in all season 1 and was worse for m+
spiral coral
We were talking about pvp broski
fallen elbow
It stayed garbage in all season 1 and was worse for m+
wait did you forgot fury was best dps for ansurk till it got gutted so not all season
lyric hound
It stayed garbage in all season 1 and was worse for m+
The chart is funny tho cause sub was 4 but PvP spec 🤷♂️
fallen elbow
The chart is funny tho cause sub was 4 but PvP spec 🤷♂️
0.1% of ppl play it so thats why
clever bluff
Warrior's entire class design is just a relic compared to otherr specs and they don't seem to have any idea how to fix it, and they lack the balls to just say fuck it and crank the dps
lyric hound
0.1% of ppl play it so thats why
Wouldn’t that same logic apply to arms tho? I think that’s the point. @clever bluff nailed it
shadow ibex
Gl getting them to give it a combat style rework when 5k people play it
fallen elbow
Wouldn’t that same logic apply to arms tho? I think that’s the point. <@22219193...
well yeah no counteraugument wp
lyric hound
7k played frost in NP and it got a rework
lyric hound
I mean I guess. I’m not saying you’re wrong I just find it frustrating like everyone else lol
Why not us
shadow ibex
Most of us been playing it for like half our life atp
Arms been the same flavor since like bfa
lyric hound
Here’s another. Survival has had what? 4 reworks? Who tf plays survival for real lol
tight wing
I'm (mostly) New to arms (played it for about a season in SL, and half a season in DF)
personally, I'm playing arms for the Mortal wounds and Bladestorm
minor gust
Warrior's entire class design is just a relic compared to otherr specs and they ...
They genuinely lack the interest or desire to work on warrior. It functionally works and thats all that matters to them. Basically we need a dev to have an interest in this class like whoever got hired and went I love DK I'ma work on DK a lot
dire copper
I know you posted this hours ago, but where is this from? Trying to explain to a friend the state arms is in
oblique oar
I know you posted this hours ago, but where is this from? Trying to explain to a...
just link him this
dire copper
oooh ty, and where's that from?
gaunt owl
UH DK Rider doing twice the dmg of Arms Warrior Colossus is new level of insanity
thick kelp
Did you guys know that theres 2 specs in the game that sim less than Arms
those are bdk and prot warr
oblique oar
oooh ty, and where's that from?
dont have the link sorry
supple crypt
xD
gaunt owl
we need somebody to do an image with all the nerf and the results at the end
latent moss
68k is crazy
olive nest
Quadruple billion % chance they slap an aura buff on that sucker and let it ride
shadow ibex
Itll end up at like the worst mage spec
And that'll be it until .2 or .5
Whenever they decide to add whatever midpatch power creep so the gaps will remain the same since everyone will get their ring or whatever
minor gust
Arms powercreep insanity
We are gonna scale this expansion don't worry!
gaunt owl
after the 3rd power on top of everything for sure
rare kite
Is demo just straight up better for dungeons?
demo as in demonology warlock? ofcourse it's way better than arms. demo as in colossus hero spec over slayer, also yes
untold trench
just link him this
fresh spire
wise forum
we are cooked gang
untold trench
u will be fine, giga buffs the 17th, making fury doodoo tier as always
dont worry
karmic reef
icy mulch
just link him this
Hol up ... is the difference between the bottom and top really that massive? Holy shit.
latent moss
Hol up ... is the difference between the bottom and top really that massive? Hol...
its bigger
demo lock is missing
icy mulch
its bigger
blissful tree
you guys punishing yourself leveling as arms slayer/colossus?
hallow quail
NO
magic canopy
lament bloom
can we close the discord like the pink princess guys ?
obsidian otter
were the warriors of rage not the the princess of light!
latent moss
can we close the discord like the pink princess guys ?
no cause its cringe
plain latch
if our 0 log is 70% of everybody else we can't complain. just do better 💪
obsidian otter
I think server crashed 🙁
dire hinge
yeah everybody strugglin rn
obsidian otter
dire hinge
lots of DCs
latent moss
typical
obsidian otter
honestly thought reshi wraps would been disabled
stiff sorrel
you guys punishing yourself leveling as arms slayer/colossus?
Probably, yes.
sick thorn
you guys punishing yourself leveling as arms slayer/colossus?
yep that me
icy mulch
Might be the only time it's playable.
acoustic laurel
Important question here guys where am I getting a swing timer now that they killed Was
icy mulch
https://tenor.com/view/that's-the-neat-thing-that's-the-neat-part-invincible-gif-3109787441708074597
slender sonnet
we are gaming
timid saffron
how
obsidian otter
thats all from tww
muted rune
anyone know what level to queue for normal dungeons
brittle agate
81
muted rune
ty!
slender sonnet
gayming
coarse ferry
worn knoll
how do i track the heroic strike proc with the CDM? the Master of Warfare buff available to track is just the arpen buff gained from using HS itself
nova marsh
how do i track the heroic strike proc with the CDM? the Master of Warfare buff a...
Use slam in the cdm
To my knowledge it changes the icon. If it dosent....a bit SoL outside something like arcui
worn knoll
Use slam in the cdm
ty this worked
slow saddle
Man arms is under cookee! Heck its raw!!!!
gentle gyro
Arms is so cooked
What do you mean?
No matter who I ask, everyone says that tuning is irrelevant
halcyon valve
Man arms is under cookee! Heck its raw!!!!
ITS FUCKING RAWWW
hushed pine
It is, indeed, fuckin raw
proud remnant
Arms feels really fun right now I must say
fossil root
https://tenor.com/view/piddel-piddel-meme-piddel-gaming-piddel-pain-pain-gif-261...
No pain - no gain
sudden fox
Arms feels really fun right now I must say
Until you play fury and everything is so much faster in every aspect of the game
nova marsh
Until you play fury and everything is so much faster in every aspect of the game
Faster dosent mean better to evreyone.
untold trench
Faster strikes, faster flatening, faster damage, faster falling behind, faster animations, faster benched
verbal jacinth
deft bluff
hi gang, im likely coming backt o play my warrior for midnight, is there any reason i should look into playing arms at any moment other than to flex on people
thick kelp
no
slender sonnet
stop this shit
Im just a yapper
slow saddle
What quest addon do we use these days?
slender sonnet
ppl use quest addons?
slow saddle
i dno man what ever so u can just auto pilot ❤️
dense sphinx
hi gang, im likely coming backt o play my warrior for midnight, is there any rea...
there won't be any flexing to be found
deft bluff
there won't be any flexing to be found
look, as someone who can reasonably say to have been a not awful player for a while, im sure i can flex on my casual normal reclear with a mythic geared arms warrior..right?
dense sphinx
who's gonna give mythic gear to an arms warrior 💀
deft bluff
me (when i play fury)
deft bluff
if i cant beat my casual guildies ....i will retire
slow saddle
Like at 30% behind fury and even more vs good specs u prob will struggle 2 beat casuams
Casuals
dim quarry
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046046500578406479/1476889963600805888...
Imagine having bought the early access and coming back to my arms warrior looking like this T_T
finite wasp
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046046500578406479/1476889963600805888...
nah bro the only thing i think is somewhat strong is the mobility
deft bluff
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046046500578406479/1476889963600805888...
third tank arms warrior inc
deft bluff
https://tenor.com/view/socks-gif-11535320724537442701
now we are TALKING
rough otter
legs warrior flexing
fresh spire
dense sphinx
it says alot when we're dooming and no other class is claiming we're sandbagging
fresh spire
It says alot when other classes are shitting on arms more than warriors*
dense sphinx
more like peasant
halcyon valve
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046046500578406479/1476889963600805888...
Mobility and survivability strong 
slender sonnet
arms talents doesn't take this?
plucky fern
arms talents doesn't take this?
doesnt matter really, the only button we need to click in arms tree is respec fury
slender sonnet
if arms has 0 players I am no longer on this earth
plucky fern
its noticable even while leveling how terrible arms is
I started in arms then respecced and started killing shit twice as fast
latent moss
bro is NOT walhe 😭 😭
spark mango
i can be disgusted about this talent regardless of where its from
slender sonnet
understandable
last saddle
Levelling as arms, we feel hella strong 💪 can’t wait for M+ and raid this is gonna be our expansion I can feel it!
olive nest
white stratus
Arms has too many buttons imo i went fury cause its ezier
vast helm
BUFFS WHEN
slender sonnet
ARMS 
halcyon valve
500 morbillion % dmg increase to mortal strike
white stratus
Time to reroll to prot guys
olive nest
ARMS
fresh spire
ARMS 🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑
empty sluice
BUFFS WHEN
nerfs*
still frigate
We will look like Goro after the buffs
boreal quartz
ARMS 🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑🪑
last saddle
ARMS 👨🦽👨🦽👨🦽👨🦽👨🦽👨🦽👨🦽👨🦽👨🦽👨🦽👨🦽👨🦽👨🦽👨🦽👨🦽👨🦽👨🦽👨🦽
jade ember
Can we just redesign the spec please 🥺👉👈
deft bluff
when are we getting legs?
olive nest
Shii they can keep the legs just give us at least one arm again
deft bluff
so we can run 1 handers no shield ?
olive nest
Swing around a big Armageddon with one arm ez
slow saddle
lyric hound
Can we just redesign the spec please 🥺👉👈
After leveling some I actually like the gameplay in slayer. New heroic strike is kinda cool. But the rotation is bloated. Would love to see MS apply rend.
slow saddle
After leveling some I actually like the gameplay in slayer. New heroic strike is...
No
It is not bloated at all
Its proc based
With 1 fuckin thinf u need to keep up
1
still frigate
The people yearn for Slam 2
slow saddle
I k r
This is silly 1 upkeep spell
Arms was only bloated in cds
Not dmg buttons
Cd bloat esp as coll
cobalt lodge
Would help if Arms was able to outdps tanks and healers on single target kekw
inland tartan
cant wait to try out midnight arms. just have to beat RE9 first before playing WoW. i hear its suicide watch rn but we'll see
dense sphinx
rip arms-beta
deft bluff
are they closing the arms beta in protest
obsidian otter
are they closing the arms beta in protest
prolly closed it one arms channel of complaining is enough to manage lol
deft bluff
hahahah super valid
minor gust
Beta is over so channels are closing. Just a bit of a meme that's it's just arms channel right now
soft gust
Whats everyone’s opinion on rend?
I feels tacked onto the spec to me, just something you have to remember to press every once in a while
obsidian otter
arms always has used rend
nothing new
fury felt weird using it
but I think of it like button that replaced dragon roar
soft gust
Is there anything it offers that isnt just “we’ve always had it” tho
olive nest
Another tuning knob for aoe I guess
sacred zodiac
just a thing to maintain, it made more sense when you were trying to budget to mortal strike every 4th gcd
stoic oyster
they will buff some stupid talent that no one takes while probably receiving an aura nerf overall... arms tuning amr
still playing it. idgaf
sharp wyvern
they know
slender sonnet
real
lyric hound
It is not bloated at all
The rotation is 5 buttons and 3 cds depending on situation. Add another for demolish. It’s much more bloated than many of the other specs especially considering Rend is a meaningless upkeep and sweeping strikes should get the sort of treatment that rogues slice and dice got by trigger off of whirlwind or something, the spec is bloated and outdated.
rapid bronze
is it not possible to track HS in the CDM
spiral coral
The rotation is 5 buttons and 3 cds depending on situation. Add another for demo...
Then the spec isn’t for you.
Vast majority of arms players enjoy the piano man playstyle and like what others would consider “bloat.”
lyric hound
Then the spec isn’t for you.
Sorry looks like the spec isn’t for anybody right now 😉
spiral coral
obsidian otter
if you like slayer arms play slayer fury its a bit different then live as no set bonus so were not pressing RB hardly at all and we press rampage more execute phase feels good to as your going almost just pressing execute rampage and BT
lyric hound
The point I’m making is with blizzards new class philosphy it’s probably hard to balance the bloat. Leading to low numbers and nobody playing. I don’t mind the playstyle but more moving parts = harder balance = over/under tuning
obsidian otter
they could of avoided all this if they never touched OP at all we still wouldnt of been as strong as demo lock or UHDK but we defently would been up there lol
gentle shale
poetic timing
marsh estuary
Vast majority of arms players enjoy the piano man playstyle and like what others...
I dont feel like its that piano-y tbh
vast helm
Help Arms
marsh estuary
What hard carries this spec for me is mostly aesthetic cuz I dont rly enjoy fury two big swords malding
It also doesnt rly have big number hits
smoky kayak
What hard carries this spec for me is mostly aesthetic cuz I dont rly enjoy fury...
easy solution, just tmog two little swords instead
marsh estuary
I want one big sword
smoky kayak
I'm p sure Fury numbers are bigger than Arms now though 
smoky kayak
I want one big sword
tmog one big sword and one little sword, done
marsh estuary
I'm p sure Fury numbers are bigger than Arms now though <a:dracthyr_kek_animated...
I meant single big numbers. Not general dps
smoky kayak
Yeah, I'm pretty sure single Fury numbers are bigger than Arms now lol
rare kite
I want one big sword
tmog one into a tiny tiny sword then other into the biggest. will just look like one big sword
for the most part
smoky kayak
duelist fantasy
marsh estuary
Yeah, I'm pretty sure single Fury numbers are bigger than Arms now lol
Which button
smoky kayak
practically all of them lol
marsh estuary
Am i doing something wrong
smoky kayak
Arms is undertuned af
marsh estuary
The highest i get from a fury button is like 20k
rare kite
Am i doing something wrong
yes, you're playing arms
lyric hound
I'm p sure Fury numbers are bigger than Arms now though <a:dracthyr_kek_animated...
If you just ignore fury and look at the BIG number and ignore details you can feel like you’re doing way more bigger numbers tho. I like heroic strike crits lol
rare kite
Heroic Strike isn't even Arms strongest ability
that button needs some serious tuning. can't believe it's not getting pressed in 35% of the fight...
smoky kayak
wym? it is
it actually has a moderately high priority in Execute (mostly for the buff)
rare kite
is it? last time i checked fishys sim it was never pressed in execute phase
rough otter
fury 2h like orcs storywise when ?
smoky kayak
is it? last time i checked fishys sim it was never pressed in execute phase
w/e you checked was fubar then, it def is
I mean it doesn't get used a lot cause its still a proc
rare kite
w/e you checked was fubar then, it def is
well i'm glad to be wrong then. holy moly no heroic strike for execute phase would have been so cursed
smoky kayak
you know, I just checked one of his recent links, and I think I see the problem
he made a boo boo
olive nest
smoky kayak
Easy fix, I'll sort it out
olive nest
Easy fix, I'll sort it out
🤝
rare kite
very curious now
smoky kayak
simple error; Arms is a hard spec ya know? it has like 5 buttons and he got confused
olive nest
Lmao
rare kite
that is true, 1 button more than alot of other specs
slow saddle
The rotation is 5 buttons and 3 cds depending on situation. Add another for demo...
Rend is not meaningless
Sweep is free on cs
So again u are wrong
If u considee 5 buttons 2 much dno what 2 say😅
Ms op sd slam?
rough otter
i dont get why people complain that much about rend
rare kite
Ms op sd slam?
exe
slow saddle
Sd
rare kite
yea fair
olive nest
I don’t mind rend as maintenance personally I just don’t want to chose between two buttons to apply to one target vs many that’s where it gets annoying for me
slow saddle
?
frozen bramble
Because Arms is balanced around bleeds, the bleeds are being heavily nerfed, and arms has like no identity
slow saddle
Rend is aoe wdym
frozen bramble
Rend is ST, TC is aoe rend
smoky kayak
i dont get why people complain that much about rend
mostly because it's boring
it just doesn't have any real interaction with the rotation, beyond bloodsurge giving a little bit of rage (which is very welcome, but not doesn't exactly create any exciting moments)
olive nest
Nuking a target with skullsplitter due to rend/dw was nice miss that
smoky kayak
things like Taste for Blood or the DFS3 tier set made Rend a lot more exciting
slow saddle
I mean it removes bad moments
smoky kayak
or yeah, even Skullsplitter, which I still maintain could have been a good way to carry forward Colossus' bleed focus
slow saddle
Yeye sks with new mastery
= perfect
Give old sks then
That just spend all bleeds
smoky kayak
the idea I pitched was a talent that basically baked Skullsplitter's effect into Execute, with the idea that Colossus would talent it instead of all the normal Execute-rage benefits, basically meaning that
- Slayer would talent into a bunch of Execute refunds so it can spam Exe
- Colossus would only use Execute on Sudden Death proc, but it would trigger a big burst of bleed damage
slow saddle
Nonono
smoky kayak
essentially keeping the skullsplitter theme, but consolidating it into an existing button
slow saddle
Would make to much sense
marsh estuary
Each lasts x seconds
so its decaying but how does it work? I feel like the third lasts 5 seconds and the second 20 but sometimes only like 2
or is it like
they all last 30
slow saddle
Yup
slow saddle
No
marsh estuary
ok this is kinda stupid
smoky kayak
so its decaying but how does it work? I feel like the third lasts 5 seconds and ...
each stack has its own unique duration, they don't roll over like normal buffs
marsh estuary
just let them roll over
smoky kayak
just let them roll over
the reason they overlap instead of combine is because they don't want it to be something you stack up all fight long
- 1: it would mean you'd get far stronger towards the middle/end of the fight than the start
- 2: it would mean that enough downtime causing you lose stacks would horribly cripple your damage, since the amount of time it would take to stack them up again would be prohibitively long
slow saddle
Asap
marsh estuary
getting one is already random enough
smoky kayak
basically think of it is as "I'm usually going to have 2-4 stacks" instead of "I start the fight at 1 and end at 20"
marsh estuary
it prob wouldnt suck if i wasnt grasping for more damage sources to not feel like my damage is dogshit
smoky kayak
that's just arms, it's undertuned
that's not really a design issue, it's just a tuning one
marsh estuary
time to hopium until the 17th
rare kite
arms with some damage buffs and a rage buff would play really nicely imo
slow saddle
Yup
Slayer arms was awesome
Until op nerfs
A bit more rage, dmg buff + cleave nerf
And im happy
olive nest
I really really hope they do something about cleave in ST
rough otter
arms with some damage buffs and a rage buff would play really nicely imo
yeah, i think arms is pretty fun to play
both
colo and slayer
the only thing its the wood stick damage
marsh estuary
i think there's a problem with the leveling experience but so do a lot of other classes
just buff my mortal strike by 20% and ill be happy
rough otter
leveling its always a problematic experience
obsidian otter
just buff my mortal strike by 20% and ill be happy
thats the amount they nerfed it by lol
marsh estuary
give it back
slow saddle
Arms was like b+//a got super nerfed🤣
marsh estuary
was the aoe super strong in the beta or something?
obsidian otter
no..
marsh estuary
they also nerfed surv hunter boomstick which was also blasting
rare kite
was the aoe super strong in the beta or something?
nope. everyone is extremely confused by the arms nerfs
obsidian otter
they also nerfed surv hunter boomstick which was also blasting
its still blasing survival hunters press that button instantly 80k-100k dps right now in aoe fights
fury and arms has the lowest aoe in beta
the nerfs were not justified at all
fresh spire
Bad Fury players are the reason Arms keeps getting nerfed
i thought we was blaming critcake
marsh estuary
slayer feels a lot more satisfying to play rn than colossus even in aoe so im gonna stick to it for now
fresh spire
feels the same with fury
obsidian otter
i went 3k+ on beta as arms slayer but hit that before the OP nerf so 100% went fury slayer for luanch first lol almost 90 though so ill be doing arms after i hit cap
1 more level to go
limpid apex
Guys, are there currently any sims that compare arms to fury in singletarget ?
limpid apex
i see, ty
teal fossil
proud heath
heroic strike > MS?
slow saddle
Last tune nerfed every st key we had exept slam
20% ms 20% exe 33% dw 60% dreadnaught
marsh estuary
Last tune nerfed every st key we had exept slam
60% nerf for that in pvp
keen ember
smoky kayak
well i'm glad to be wrong then. holy moly no heroic strike for execute phase wou...
I went to get lunch, but the tldr on this is that HS was being used, but because of a quirk of syntax, it was being displayed as a Slam in the report (which frankly should have been more conspicuous than not seeing HS show up in Execute lol)
easy fix though
slow saddle
Pre nerf 2 dw
And exe
U didnt hs
Coz 20 rage exe > all i think ( in m+ spec)
So instead of just buffin hs... they nerfed everythin else
smoky kayak
Coz 20 rage exe > all i think ( in m+ spec)
M+ spec just auto HS via Cleave, but even pre-nerf M+ builds didn't take Exe talents
DW was borderline
slow saddle
U couldnt afford hs
Guess last build. Did
Revvez has spoken🤣
Dmg isnt just bad its insufficient🤣
slow saddle
Didnt prot pala do stupid dmg?
astral yarrow
thats guardian
olive nest
sand dove
Will arms get any better at 90?
rare kite
Will arms get any better at 90?
novel vale
I swear it takes every bone in my body to resist the urge to use Sweeping Strikes before Colossus Smash