arms

[livid cloak]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/bvVyt8jgAhWGQTK9?fight=6&type=damage-done

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Yyd3K8thXGqz79Qv?fight=1&type=damage-done

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/pFmzGRZgrWq7b6Pj?fight=1&type=damage-done

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/XDcFxbqhtNj13QMB?fight=7&type=damage-done

hopefully those help

[strange perch]

Thanks a ton! They will

I'm curious how you did almost 10M dps in Priory, I'm always stuck in the 8-9M range at best

[minor gust]

I wouldn't overthink it as a lot has to do with the pulls and group comp. It's not just about how well you play

[livid cloak]

^

having a monk is a big boon obviously

but also hit cleave a lot, line up demolish so that it hits as many targets as possible, back up a twitch and swap to a target where the cone from demolish will hit the pack

and try not to demolish into a ton of footmen using defend

[minor gust]

Me when I use demolish at the same time the footmen all defend because I had to implement my nuclear launch codes of an opener

[livid cloak]

it's awful

[daring heron]

xd

[livid cloak]

in the opener specifically with pot i always warbreaker, shockwave, demolish in priory

[daring heron]

the first defend cast always happens when they reach 50% hp btw

and then every 30s from then

[livid cloak]

oh that's good to know

critcake with the knowledge 🙏

[minor gust]

Go get it Sean I for one will not use it as that would require logging onto retail

[livid cloak]

like in halls of atonement for example, never have a groundskeeper targeted for demolish or a houndsmaster

b/c if they run or jump and cause you to turn and you miss the pack of gargons with demolish

[strange perch]

That's actually a good advice, I don't know the exact range of my demolish, neither for cleave honestly, nor SS too

[livid cloak]

demolish says it does damage around the target, it does not

i'm fairly certain it's a cone

[minor gust]

Goto dummies and start playing with the ranges of cleave and demo

[livid cloak]

from your main target

[minor gust]

Yeah it's a cone

[strange perch]

Damn

[boreal quartz]

demolish needs to be removed

btw

[strange perch]

I got baited by the description too

[boreal quartz]

never trust wow tooltips

[livid cloak]

warbreaker is a true circle around you, but demolish is not, despite how it reads

[boreal quartz]

infamously inaccurate

[minor gust]

Walhe drew a nice little picture in paint about the demo cone

[strange perch]

Do you have it on hand by chance?

[minor gust]

Lol nope but he posted in here so you could search his name and look for it if you really want to

But it's just a cone starting from your target

[livid cloak]

yeah, on really big pulls, like the pull in HOA after first boss, lining up that demolish properly and selecting the proper target will make a big difference

it's absolutely abysmal to try and land big demolishes imo off really big targets, like the giants in gambit

so i swap to a murloc

or like on halkias shards, i tend to swap off them for demolish as well

[strange perch]

I always try to do it on the biggest enemy in the middle because I thought it was an aoe

I wonder how much of a difference it will make with this trick (I'm desperate and tired of being behind bm/frost dks all the time)

[boreal quartz]

the most powerful feature at your disposal is the escape key

[spiral coral]

The fuck

Nah

[boreal quartz]

it lets you return to the menu where you can change your class

[boreal quartz]

demolish has the same purpose like my wow sub

[minor gust]

Maybe a class that Blizz puts more than 10% effort into

[boreal quartz]

|| none ||

[boreal quartz]

https://tenor.com/view/corntango-gif-20841348

let this be known

[strange perch]

Demolish is the reason I'm playing WoW

[boreal quartz]

my condolences

[nova marsh]

Find a better reason like friends

[livid cloak]

also just try not to die (which is obvious) but while a tank is gathering don't fly in and start cleaving everything and rip aggro.
Arms also has a really good defensive toolkit and can live a lot

replacing slam gcd's with impending victory adds up A LOT

[strange perch]

Yeah surviving is usually not my issues

My problem is doing dmg

[spiral coral]

Casting demo got me used to casting

Now I’m a mage main

[reef glade]

based department calling

only good ability warrior has

[rare kite]

https://tenor.com/view/denzel-crocker-timmy-turner-fairly-odd-parents-super-f-meme-gif-1224341026557759176

[minor gust]

True demolish hate comes from reminding you of Fyralaths existence

[nova marsh]

Boys

[spiral coral]

https://tenor.com/view/fairlyoddparents-cosmo-turtle-revenge-magic-gif-22214285

[nova marsh]

I have been conscripted

Into playing warrior for midnight

[untold trench]

I am sorry

[nova marsh]

Is it jover

[unborn canyon]

perhaps

[livid cloak]

I've timed 4 19s now, and i've been the bottom dps in each 19 🙁

i need to go back to 15s for my ego i think

it's been close but still bottom

[spiral coral]

Comparison is devoid of happiness

Also, prots doing fucking 6 mil

Details doesn’t mean shit to me if I time a key unless I’m with the same team and I can like, justifiably compare my damage

[livid cloak]

oh sure sure, i'm joking. tbh if i'm in a group and im lowest dps i feel like we're doing fine lol

that was HOA and i was top through 1st boss, then the big pull after the 1st boss i just got throttled

i think i finished near 28mil and the hunter/dk were both near 35 and i was just behind from then on

that details is also skewed a bit low because we sat in combat for 20 seconds waiting on a stoneborn to turn to stone so we could pull groundskeepers up, but didn't want to dps them down and have them run

so they just hit the warrior lol

[quaint otter]

0.1% isnt that big diff stop sandbagging

[slow saddle]

5% bs! U are a team buffer👌. Lets forgrt bout the prot war, so actually u did the most

[olive nest]

[livid cloak]

I didnt realize battle shout gave almost a true 5 percent damage buff, I knew it was percent ap

ran a sim with and without battle shout though and it's almost 5% to the tee

[slow saddle]

I dno man, i just decided it was

[livid cloak]

4.7 percent gain

That's actually pretty damn good

Good I'll start taking 4.7 percent damage for myself for every martial class

[slow saddle]

Yup facts

But thats also why prot war is so wanted

[livid cloak]

Yeah

And prot warrior dam is insane

[slow saddle]

Dk-hunter-dh

All benefit

I guess u could go fury // arms and veng // or monk to replace dk ( if dk tanks)

Brew tank id immortal on beta atm

[livid cloak]

I love getting in groups with a monk and a shaman

https://tenor.com/view/feels-good-gif-19232182

[fossil root]

Yeah

[slow saddle]

Yup

[robust cypress]

Is dimmy trinket any good in M+?

[slow saddle]

No

[robust cypress]

darn

[livid cloak]

Oh really? I played brew in sl a bit and absolutely loved it

I've been playing blood dk a bit but id love to give brew a whirl, it just has a lot of buttons on live rn

Or at least it did in df

[slow saddle]

My m8s mad brew man and says its silly

[livid cloak]

Nice

I'm a mid tank at best but i do like tanking

[strange perch]

Since Thunderclaps affects 5 nearby targets with rend, is it a good idea to thunderclap more than once in pulls that have 10+ mobs? or will it not spread the dot further anyway?

I'm asking because I was doing a dawnbreaker +16 and I feel like my rend dmg is way lower than other people?

[slow saddle]

Yes?

Clap clap

[strange perch]

So in really big pulls I should spam it on cd with cleave then?

[thick kelp]

Only if something is missing rend

[dim basalt]

Blizz does not like Brew being good so nerfs will come for sure

[livid cloak]

I don't spam tc in big pulls but if stuff is missing rend then I weave it in prio over overpower

I miss sweep tc rending 10 things and sweep unhinged

What a time to be alive

[minor gust]

Just remember TC rend doesn't prio mobs without rend gg.

[dim basalt]

TC Rend as smart as the average warrior

[olive nest]

Imagine smart rend application

[slow saddle]

2 much

[slow saddle]

Best we can do is 5 random targets

https://tenor.com/view/pawn-stars-yes-yass-awesome-gif-21935666

[robust cypress]

Praying for a helmet in my vault tomorrow

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/jJVAVhS2ynzebSZ4mhxb9h

[teal fossil]

yeah thats how it works

its 5% minus whatever procs and trinkets that isnt affected by ap

thats why warrior buff is the strongest in the game after they nerfed arcane int

[reef glade]

Dh buff still clears

[swift crown]

I can not take you serious with that pfp

[thick kelp]

I can not take you serious with that pfp

[reef glade]

it’s PEAK

But has been a while

may be time to locate new wares

https://tenor.com/view/anime-anime-girl-explode-hair-bald-gif-1952343554732308603

[strange perch]

Went from always going bottom 8M to now reaching 10M(floodgate) thanks to all the tips, aiming demolish better 1000% helped a ton

[livid cloak]

[spiral coral]

[robust cypress]

wait you can aim demolish?

[untold trench]

never knew demolish hit targets 360 around you like that

[robust cypress]

ooo so its kinda like cleave's hitbox?

[livid cloak]

If it does it's in a VERY small circle around you

[spiral coral]

I think cleave has a wider hitbox

But, same same

[untold trench]

looks to be about a model size of the model hitbox around you, that is pretty lenient

[spiral coral]

I’m fully switching back to arms this week

https://tenor.com/view/feels-good-gif-19232182

[untold trench]

L take, go N->prot

[spiral coral]

I’m playing prot too

[untold trench]

Stay prot

[spiral coral]

Well. I can’t multi spec on one toon

My brain can’t make it work

So I have a prot, for prot lmao

[untold trench]

https://tenor.com/view/wtf-what-what-i-just-read-gif-20766315

[robust cypress]

in st, I wanna cursed stone idol during my charge right?

and then do the rest of the opener?

[spiral coral]

Yes.

Doesn’t change aoe/st though

Use the same

[minor gust]

Def don't wanna cursed stone idol in charge

You can if u want but ur wasting that trinket value on useless globals

[spiral coral]

Doesn’t really matter for Arms. I think it matters more doing it (during charge) for fury is to ensure you get to enrage

[minor gust]

You send idol after your set up globals like TC and TR and then pop right before ava and the rest of your cds

[spiral coral]

That makes more sense

[minor gust]

Same with aoe charge cleave TC tr SS idol ava wb and do the rest

[spiral coral]

I have two on use trinks

So I use cursed during charge, idk if this is correct just what I’ve been doing

[robust cypress]

double on use seems not good

unless its saladman

[minor gust]

Def not good but it's your character play how you want

[robust cypress]

is it normal for stat proc enchants to beat mainstat procs for weapons?

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/5yZRSwanJNzFPM9CXKPZjv

[tacit crystal]

@minor gust

kill arms

[minor gust]

Blizz is working on it

[tacit crystal]

also answer stomrys question

[minor gust]

no u

[minor gust]

yes

[robust cypress]

kk ty

[boreal remnant]

After a certain point with gear yeah

[spiral coral]

It’s what’s been given to me by blizzard gods for punishment for playing Mage

[minor gust]

Spend those dinars

[spiral coral]

I spent them on prot stuff

my mage is pushing, not going to bother pushing Arms and I’m not good enough with fury (like it enough) to push with it. but I still play my warr the most lol

Mage is just… so much easier/feel like I contribute more/can stay alive through crazy shit/can help tank pull/lust etc. also everyone accepts you if you’re arcane even if you’re trash

[last saddle]

prepatch is killing furries

[spiral coral]

I think mt thane will still perform better than Col come prepatch

[robust cypress]

Also, I just simmed a bunch of weapons for my last dinar, a haste/mastery weapon is showing to be to best

[minor gust]

Follow your sims

[slender sonnet]

we play arms in this house

[minor gust]

No free 10% move speed blasphemite gem -10 points

[slender sonnet]

Yeah that's fair

having more other gems was better for fury so

better?

[minor gust]

Gotta put one of each color gem for the full benefit

[slender sonnet]

yeah

I cba to sim it atm

[minor gust]

Fuck simming gems. Most worthless shit in the game right now.

The difference between any combo of gem is like .01%

[spiral coral]

Ok so I’m not crazy

Anytime I sim them I rarely get any difference from what I theorycrafted to be best lol

[minor gust]

Going from no gems to full gems is a nice upgrade. Like .5-1% depending how far a long the expansion is. But the diff between the worse possible gem combo and the "best" just isn't a real number

That's why I prio the move speed gem for arms

Can't forget the orange stamina gem

Fury sadly the gem doesn't stack with enrage so its moot for fury

[slender sonnet]

we are so back on arms, my first arms kill of the season

apart from some really dodgy pulls where I was giga undergeared

[minor gust]

[slender sonnet]

I love this spec so much

[minor gust]

I need to do a full clear of the raid as arms

havent touched that shit at all in raid

[slender sonnet]

apparently we're not raiding in prepatch so next week is our last week - and apparently we're only doing dimensius

and my raid leader won't let me arms on dimensius

[minor gust]

I did one pull of Dimmy as arms and was like nah im good this boss is still stupidly hard for us I have to play fury

[slender sonnet]

I did a couple of pulls as arms and had fun

but he told me to go back to fury

but we've killed it twice now

so surely I get the arms copium on the last week

[minor gust]

all of our repeat kills has still taken basically an entire night

its cancer

[slender sonnet]

we took 3 nights to reclear it once

[minor gust]

I feel that

[slender sonnet]

but from 2 kills I got 4 pieces of loot + mount

So I'm happy

got 2 curios, head and wep

then bought the trink with my final dinar

[nova marsh]

Bro

What'd you do to get that

[slender sonnet]

Idk

On first kill it was replacing 2 hero track pieces

then on 2nd kill I was like "yep that's an arms wep, and I need the shoulders for arms"

and I just got the mount drop for me on first kill and didnt trade it

Oh wait

I guess I do know then

xD

[nova marsh]

Bro ninjaed?

Based

[slender sonnet]

Maybe the wep

but everything else was legit

I had this for arms before but I wanted a little more haste

oof

fully ninja'd it

whoops

[robust cypress]

So whats changing with arms in prepatch?

[minor gust]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1423008781247320105

[mental moon]

Anyone on beta know if there is a way to track heroic strike procs on/with the cooldown manager, or is the only way to see if it proced on the action bar?

[nova marsh]

Only on the action bar

[mental moon]

crazy

[slow saddle]

Cd.manager prefer to track number of stacks u have ( which is irrelevant, more than proc itself🤣)

[slender sonnet]

Has anyone got a macro for ravager and TR that works

[slow saddle]

why? arent both on global cooldown ?

[untold pewter]

Guys, for this small prepatch window and without apex talents. Is Arms going to sink or will it be still as playable (for raid)?

Just checking if I should recraft back to fury for more dimensius reclears with the guild...

Idk if the question belongs here or in #1423008987699351643 sorry

[slow saddle]

Ehm

Fury is sunk

U loose 4p as fury.m8

[slender sonnet]

Oh fr?

How so?

[slow saddle]

Did u not read notes?

[slender sonnet]

Nah

[slow saddle]

All tier are changes to add 7 + 10% dmg

[slender sonnet]

Ohh I see

[slow saddle]

So all get 17% dmg from tier. O interactions

Id guess arms prob want that more than fury🤣

Ofc if arms is horridly tuned...

But so far u get acces to dreadnaught and it has good dmg. So we are better at cleave

[slender sonnet]

I'm trying to find the article

[slow saddle]

• we dont have apex talent ( which ) increases rage output needed

So slayer might be fine ( arms)

[slender sonnet]

wicked

[untold pewter]

Good call, I didn't pick up on that, damn

[olive nest]

Pre patch arms gaming

[slender sonnet]

I'm here for it

[olive nest]

Crit hammer ready to be equipped

[dim basalt]

real

[olive nest]

💯

[slender sonnet]

Any ideas on stat prio in prepatch?

Dont say crit mastery

[olive nest]

Mastery Crit

[slender sonnet]

damn

he got me

[dim basalt]

Will prob still be Crit Haste

[olive nest]

Play with the haste as long as you can

[slender sonnet]

I was thinking of trying haste mastery

[olive nest]

Gg season one 8% haste 20 apm gaming

🔥 🔥

[slender sonnet]

damn

I'll take a nap between my MS presses

[olive nest]

Actually

MS > sip coffee > scratch 🥜 > change Spotify song > MS

[slender sonnet]

real

[slow saddle]

Facts

[ocean marlin]

The Assisted Highlighter suggests me in AOE OP > MS this is not right or?

[spiral coral]

It is right, with Opportunist/Dreadnaught on Slayer spec.

Colossus, no.

[tacit crystal]

whats happening to haste

[olive nest]

Oh nothing just that we’ll have less as a freshly leveled toon

[nova marsh]

Guys

I have the wow itch for arms....do I submit

[slow saddle]

As long as u dont install details collosus on live feels good imho

[reef glade]

set it to always show me and only let it be 1 bar long

[livid cloak]

mage and shaman were nice enough to not do any damage so i could steal all the damage

truly selfless souls

[spiral coral]

it's off spec'ing season baby

i played fire mage the other day after not playing it for a month and the tank did more damage then me lmfao

[slow saddle]

What key lvl u at sean?

[livid cloak]

My prog keys are 19s atm, I have half done. That was just a 16 for fun

I cannot get into and complete a 19 eco dome or streets to save my life

Every streets falls apart at or before the 2nd boss, and same for eco dome

I think ive been in 3 19 streets where the healer dies at the pull on the cart, releases, and it turns into a wipe

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1055276743675621407/1459169666789408940/image.png?ex=69624d26&is=6960fba6&hm=15eb358ec40dbfec541486dcd869c8520274caaddedddb443352d44f38cf43dc&

That monk

I have floodgate, priory, eco and streets left for 19s. I can't do 19 floodgate I just don't do enough damage, but I feel like the other 3 are doable

But damn its hard

[slow saddle]

Flood is prob more living

The crazy pulls u need to time em🤣

[livid cloak]

Floodgate timer is so tight and unforgiving

I don't really have an issue dying to rot, arms is durable

I do stand in shit occasionally but that's just skill issue lol

Normally fatigue. Get daughter to bed then queue for groups for 3 hours, finally get in one

[tacit crystal]

classic

[livid cloak]

I picked up bitter immunity last week and its been nice to have

[tacit crystal]

i think its only useful in db

even then only on 21

[livid cloak]

You only give up move speed to get it, so its almost free

And its nice for poisons in Ara Kara, curse in db, and just another off global heal

Even though its a long cd

Its like another health pot

[tacit crystal]

are you taking fear or

idk i feel like the points we have are pretty contested

at least if you take fear

[livid cloak]

No

I do not take fear

[tacit crystal]

ig it matters more for fury rhan arms since colo shockwave knocks up

[livid cloak]

Yeah

[tacit crystal]

so dont have to worry that much about stun dr

[livid cloak]

Will always stop a cast

[tacit crystal]

i got 3 io yesterday

then proceeded to get my 21 killed

[livid cloak]

I'm dying for a crumb of io

I had to swap to my blood dk just to get a fix of io

Sat in lfg for like an hourish yesterday waiting on a tank for streets 19

Then he got globaled by double proxy strike 5 mins in lol

Abandon vote ensues, see ya later

[tacit crystal]

i need a 21

thats just tank being impatient/noob

for not pressing wall

[olive nest]

[glacial pebble]

whats a good weak aura for tracking juggernaut stacks

[thick kelp]

none because juggernaut stacks are not a relevant thing to track

[tacit crystal]

im going to miss jugg

[minor gust]

https://tenor.com/view/modern-family-spray-squirt-annoyed-irritated-gif-5704388171529337323

[nova marsh]

Man, that monk is high off their brew

[nova marsh]

Don't lie

[tacit crystal]

im not

[nova marsh]

You like gamba?

[slow saddle]

I mean imma miss it, if they dont buff baseline exe

[minor gust]

Only thing that matters to you is dmg huh?

Recommend just being a meta chaser

[slow saddle]

I mean, loosing juggernaut is nice

[minor gust]

The current tuning doesn't matter

[olive nest]

Wackamole arms is fun to me

[slow saddle]

But if our baseline is just no jugger

[olive nest]

Jug gamba was not

[minor gust]

Complain about the dmg a month from now

Just crazy to say I'm gonna miss the most annoying thing that we've complained about all expansion. Because current beta tuning is on the low end

[slow saddle]

Current rage tuning is rough🤣, ngl

U risk spending 70rage in 2 globals exe hs starvation❣️

[minor gust]

And it's something I have no doubt will be addressed. Because of how unplayable it feels.

Also something that is not just dmg and effects gameplay

[slow saddle]

Yeah

True. But again i think we need more rage in exe

[minor gust]

If the expansion was releasing in like a week or 2 I would be worried af but lil under 2 months is still a long ass time especially once weekly updates continue

I expect the rage change soon assuming they know about the issue at all. Because it would be smarter to figure out rage first before any dmg tuning

If my hopes are shattered because classic L Blizz class dev team then it's cooked full doom burn it down

[slow saddle]

I just rly want arms to be good. Feels like ive played way to much fury last years

[nova marsh]

I think we'll see tuning till like

early feb

After that, I think it'd be safe to say all bets are off

[slow saddle]

Kindda insane if prepatch is launched in current state ngl

[hazy flower]

L

[nova marsh]

If we get no buffs next week

Yeah....Absoutlely insane

[dire hinge]

it'll be an interesting time, like usual

we launch, get told no buffs while RWF is happening to preserve balance, mages get 8%, warrior gets something in season two

we have fun here in the meantime though because we're in it together

[livid cloak]

Playing what you want because its fun vs playing what's "good"

I simply hit mortal strike

[nova marsh]

Guys how bad is outlaw rn

Are they as downbad as arms?

[forest dove]

Sir this is a Chili’s

[nova marsh]

Instructions unclear, driving to Chilli's to ask

[fossil root]

Make Rage modify skill behaviour based on thresholds.

• e.g. bladestorm hits extra 2/4/6 swings if casted with 30/60/90 rage

[spiral coral]

https://tenor.com/view/npc-npc-processing-processing-npc-processing-npc-thinking-gif-18378041742925308956

[slow saddle]

Just let rage be overabundant

Better 2 much than 2 little

[slender sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/livasmol-loading-cat-smol-gif-6810651202878211592

[last saddle]

how much dmg will we be doing during prepatch you think

[minor gust]

5-6

Maybe 7-8

[dim basalt]

Make it 4

[slender sonnet]

atleast 3

[dim basalt]

I offer 2, take it or leave

[slender sonnet]

nah br

u

3 is the minimum

[rare kite]

https://tenor.com/view/crystal-ball-crowley-david-tennant-good-omens-psychic-gif-3436909361193405344

[last saddle]

i dont mean arms i mean what the numbers are gonna be at generally

100k?

dps

[slow saddle]

Who knows

[minor gust]

Ptr is available you can just log on and check for yourself

[slender sonnet]

atleast 9

[nova marsh]

literally 0

🔮

There will be a bug that makes us useless

[livid cloak]

You are so negative all the time. I hope something you have going on gives you joy

Because I don't think WoW makes you happy

[nova marsh]

Yes

Its called dooming

[slender sonnet]

ARMAS NÚMERO UM🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆
CAMPEÃO MUNDIAL DE ARMAS 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆

[frosty pike]

Id be more worried if the arms channel wasn't dooming. That's just what we do here

[fresh spire]

https://i.imgflip.com/a1vjj2.gif

[last saddle]

Arms will be chargeweaving in midnight to have enough rage to cast mortal strike

[olive nest]

https://i.imgflip.com/a1vjj2.gif

[gentle gyro]

https://i.imgflip.com/a1vjj2.gif

[gaunt owl]

https://tenor.com/view/summoning-gif-16806659066271167689

[nova marsh]

Bros trying to summon notes

[olive nest]

On a Sunday mind you

[gaunt owl]

summoning Lucifer so he can save this spec

[nova marsh]

Damn

We past needing god

[gaunt owl]

you ask god for forgiveness

nothing else

[spiral coral]

https://tenor.com/view/who-dat-snoop-gif-15116696

[slender sonnet]

ARMAS NÚMERO UM🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆
CAMPEÃO MUNDIAL DE ARMAS 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆

[fresh spire]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/G-It4efa0AA69dw.gif

[terse osprey]

Hows arms in keys?

[minor gust]

its fine. if you are good you will do well.

[terse osprey]

if your good lol yall just love hating on casuals n such

[ocean marlin]

Yes

[slow saddle]

all depends on measure

if u talk about key timing its rather dog

if u wanna farm overall its quite good

[terse osprey]

what you mean farm?

[slow saddle]

meaning killing useless critter mobs that dies anyways

[terse osprey]

ah okay

[slow saddle]

so ya overall will be heavily dependant on comp.

in lower keys u will not get the biggest overalls either, as the sustained effect of bleeds and burst we got wont come into full effect

but its capable of doing 19-20s

18-19s as a pugger is possible.

im capped more by my own skill than the spec tbh.

[fiery mist]

Hey guys. Im thinking to main war and i struggle to find some vids of arms, gameplay, rotation, explanation. Everybody plays fury
Do you know some youtube channel with real exp on arms ?

[livid cloak]

THE SHADE FROM THIS MAN

You're not wrong though

I am an overall farmer tbh

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1055276743675621407/1460096940132925622/image.png?ex=6965acbd&is=69645b3d&hm=cf6056eacd11866973566507e861b1900d0799d49fa6cacaad5b6babe3653e0e&

That one was close

[livid cloak]

It depends what you wanna do. Season only has a week left.

If you wanna push title its not gonna happen. However if you want to do anything else (10s, 12s, 3k, 3500) its perfectly capable

I sit around 4m single target which is capable to a point. There's obviously specs that do more single target.

Arms does have consistent aoe damage every pull though. Demolish and warbreaker are up constantly

And its kinda uncapped (soft cap at 8) so it really excels in big pulls like in priory, Ara kara, halls of atonement and struggles more in smaller pulls of 3 to 5 like dawnbreaker and streets.

Arms also needs mobs stacked up so its mid in eco dome and gambit as stuff is bouncing all over the place

[slow saddle]

I will say every boss where they drag mobs into, and ppl 100% st// funnel col can do decent st

[slow saddle]

When u can combine a big cleave with a rav once in a while🤣

And cleave slams mt

[spiral coral]

Play what you want/feels good to you

[spiral coral]

https://tenor.com/view/theyre-exactly-the-same-neil-degrasse-tyson-startalk-they-are-very-similar-they-are-alike-gif-21987439

Fury does more damage cause tuning but arms might do more later cause tuning

Both builder/spender super strict prio specs

[wet current]

you don't think that's intended design do you? That would be awful haha

[nova marsh]

Well since blizz took all our rage away it must be!

[slender sonnet]

I struggle to pull big numbers as arms

idk

maybe Im bad

at col

Slayer felt amazing on the one raid boss I played it on

[tacit crystal]

in keys or raid

[slender sonnet]

keys

I did a streets and only did like 6m as arms

Like +12 or smt

I do like 3.8m on ST I think

[tacit crystal]

that key is horrible for aoe

also colo requires your tank to gather quick and pixel stack well

[slender sonnet]

yeah

Idk there's only 1 week left on the season

I have no reason to do keys

I guess I'll wait to see where it stacks up in midnight

I'm looking forward to slayer though

we are chilling

[dim basalt]

How much did you pay for T3?

[slender sonnet]

Uh

maybe 4.5m

[dim basalt]

Oh so its gotten cheaper I think

[slender sonnet]

I can't remember it was in like DFS2

It was def cheaper when I did rogue t3 for my druid but

I didn't get boots or bracers on that char

[dim basalt]

Only need helmet shoulders chest gloves tbh

[slender sonnet]

yeah

I did the full warr set for the achievement

but I had boots which was identical model for rogue already

and you can't see bracers so what's the point

still looks dope

[dim basalt]

I should check how much Id pay for only 4 pieces

[slender sonnet]

I would buy another dinar piece on my druid but

I gotta do 12 bosses for it

[livid cloak]

Streets is abysmal as arms to be fair

This is my best streets and it was only 7.2m active dps

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/zHRh4GcCYVxN9L8K?fight=7&type=damage-done&start=15977879&end=17971243

Its my least favorite dungeon this season

[slender sonnet]

damn

Maybe I'm ok then

I dont have an antenna though 🙁 and we're just gonna reclear dimmy again so I aint gonna get one

[last saddle]

i got one in vault last week finally

[livid cloak]

Puzzling cartel chips 🙂

[slender sonnet]

I spent all mine already

I got uh

[livid cloak]

Oh lol

[slender sonnet]

2h wep, 1st boss trink, last boss trink

for fury

[livid cloak]

Ah makes sense

[slender sonnet]

I've been using last boss trink/cursed stone idol in keys

[last saddle]

csi stand for clunky stone idol

[slender sonnet]

real

dog strink

[glacial pebble]

Is arms even worth playing

[slender sonnet]

always

[glacial pebble]

I love arms

[slender sonnet]

ARMAS NÚMERO UM🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆
CAMPEÃO MUNDIAL DE ARMAS 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆

[glacial pebble]

But fury is also fun

[dim basalt]

Arms is fun but if you care about meta then no

[glacial pebble]

I dont care much about it

I just dont want to get out dpsed by trash

:)

[dim basalt]

Tuning is 🔮

There will be a lot of balance changes until next season

[slender sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/south-park-margarita-ville-stock-market-wheel-headless-gif-17896977

[last saddle]

in 8 days

armas numero um

https://tenor.com/view/warrior-blizzard-wow-classic-push-hank-hill-gif-27417019

get back in the pit

[olive nest]

I’m ready

[nova marsh]

Are we gonna ball as arms

[last saddle]

kinda

[olive nest]

We’re going to walk as arms

[glacial pebble]

Fury warrior players arent human

Whats harder arms or fury

[olive nest]

Honestly both are pretty equal “difficulty” wise

[slow saddle]

Fury is easier

By far

No juggernauthy

[slender sonnet]

ARMAS NÚMERO UM🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆
CAMPEÃO MUNDIAL DE ARMAS 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆

[last saddle]

numero um del meo corazon

[twin hazel]

I got a heroic one out of the timewalking chest this week

[slender sonnet]

I think I have a HC one

oh yeah

idk if it's better than mythic screams

probably right

I need 2nd half of spark to craft a better ring

smile

[last saddle]

its not better than mythic screams

[slender sonnet]

Nope

[mint patio]

Well played Karnathos.
-Arturus

[mortal crag]

I suck as arms so arms is harder

I suck more* as arms

[nova marsh]

Massive skill issue

Git gud

[spiral coral]

arms is ass

[nova marsh]

I am aware

Thats why im rerolled frost or outlaw

[spiral coral]

i hope arms/fury are better than mid for midnight

hope

[mortal crag]

i simply do not enjoy arms outside of BL

[olive nest]

Arms Owns!

[livid cloak]

💪

[olive nest]

[dim basalt]

Honestly this should be combined with the RIP Arms gif

https://i.imgflip.com/a2lrdf.gif

[magic canopy]

aint no way that shits gonna be worth pressing outside of tac attempts

without the additional benefits

wait we cant even use em til lvl 82 right?

[dim basalt]

yup

81 is the first apex node I believe

[fresh spire]

Currently only using heroic strike>slam

[slender sonnet]

ARMAS NÚMERO UM🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆
CAMPEÃO MUNDIAL DE ARMAS 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆

[olive nest]

https://tenor.com/view/guts-berserk-american-psycho-gif-23191099

[slender sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/armswarrior-warrior-warriorwow-armswow-armswarriorwow-gif-27099127

[wicked forum]

Hey how’s it going everyone I am starting to play arms In midnight for the first time fingers crossed it’s awesome

[slow saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/welcome-to-hell-tales-from-the-hood-2-keith-david-sklarlight-gif-3564358203074485839

[spiral coral]

https://tenor.com/view/bernie-mac-the-bernie-mac-show-bernie-mac-show-crying-bernie-mac-crying-gif-18798767

[nova marsh]

Please reroll

For the sake of your sanity

Its for your own good. You got hope in your eyes

[wicked forum]

Thanks yall and it’s all good I really enjoy wow and my friends and all spun a wheel to see what we would main season one of midnight and I got arms warrior I plan to have a blast and make arms awesome lol

[dim basalt]

Its defo not as bad as people here make it out to be

Just dont expect to be meta kind of strong

As Blizz does not like warrior as much as lets say mage or dk

[wicked forum]

I am looking forward to it and I have a good group of people
I play with so I should be ok that way don’t have to pug much and I plan to do some pvp on it also

[slow saddle]

This season was bad in raid

In dungeons it was also pretty bad, if u discount overall critter dmg

[dim basalt]

Happens /shrug

[slow saddle]

Demolish is big boy button and i love it though

[dim basalt]

In S2 we were middle of the pack

S1 as well after midseason buffs

[slow saddle]

True, i think i just hate when st // prio dmg is horrid

Coz at my key level with pugs those 2 things matters the most

[dim basalt]

in raid for sure because our aoe there is always bad

Unless things line really well for BS to pad

[slow saddle]

I mean middy has a chancw

Coz of dreadnaught

Basicly funnel dmg

St goes up with 2 targets sweep is 100%

[dim basalt]

Voidspire council fight hype

[slow saddle]

Theres a chance. Blizzard ofc solves this by splitting mobs from boss but stil🤣

[dim basalt]

Lots of tiny things to dodge and perma cleave

[slow saddle]

Dreadnaught, is the only time arms has had relatively good aoe

In raid like encounters

In recent memory

[dim basalt]

Dreadnought in exe phase with FB

[slender sonnet]

It might be a hot take but I kinda miss when ww and cleave were seperate

DF S1 arms was so fuj

Fun*

[slow saddle]

Let us cook!!!

[rare kite]

That's coz big whirlwind was fun. Not this no cd whirlwind...

[slow saddle]

i did dislike managing another 10 sec cd u wanted twice in to the cs window

[olive nest]

3 times if you were a G with lust and pi

[slow saddle]

yeah

sucked

[olive nest]

So only Tmy

[rare kite]

The twice in cs was within margin. Could just use on cd

[slow saddle]

i mean not lry

if u could make it so every time without holding ww

[thick kelp]

Overlapping a CS with 52% ToM and pot popping Fatal Mark

on fyrakk p3

❤️‍🩹

@latent moss

[slow saddle]

with avatar ?

[olive nest]

When the hoof hits just right on raz

Mmm

[rare kite]

Ye but that didnt happen naturally. Was a whole discussion in DF

[thick kelp]

it could happen naturally

[slow saddle]

Weeel

exactly

just git gud

[thick kelp]

but easy mode was to just hold it outside of CS

since it was minimal gain to send on cd

and u needed high haste for the on cd to work

[rare kite]

40/40/10/10

[slow saddle]

still i prefered cursed TOM arms to juggernaut with slayer

100%

even pressin ip

[rare kite]

Anything is better than slayer jugg

[slow saddle]

i mean i also dislike bladestorm in st

its a personal thing though

[rare kite]

Understandable. I dislike arms bladestorm in general. Make it 2 sec shorter

[slow saddle]

hard fact

but in like SL

u would bladestorm IF there was many mobs

i feel like bladestorm being a big fuck u, in aoe, is where it can be, doesnt need to be used in ST

for 5 fucking seconds standing stil

[latent moss]

❤️‍🩹

so peak

[livid cloak]

Brother yes

I wish it was just a giga on demand aoe

[slow saddle]

yeah

[livid cloak]

Although....because I'm old I did enjoy the break on my fingers 👴

[slow saddle]

thats what it used to be

made sense, you spun coz there was to many targets

as said before, it is slayer thats a horrid tree, with focus on a CD which is stupid

[heavy patio]

I really wish slayer was more of a bloody thematic/barbarian-esque

[slender sonnet]

so peak

[tacit crystal]

i miss tom

@iron spruce i miss you

please return

[livid cloak]

classic

[iron spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/happy-cat-silly-cat-happy-cat-smile-gif-11748501437476694103

[tacit crystal]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=385008/test-of-might

[iron spruce]

https://www.wowhead.com/spell=236385/die-by-the-sword

[nova marsh]

Your first mistake was saying anything

[robust cypress]

Do you pot with lust on pull or during execute cds

[spiral coral]

Pot+lust is going to give you the biggest damage amp

[robust cypress]

kk

[spiral coral]

Talkin’ p3 dimmy?

[robust cypress]

Was more for fract

Dimmy you pot pull and then on damage amp right?

[glacial pebble]

arms slayer is playable in m+ right?

[robust cypress]

Playable, sure

Comp dependant. If you have 2 giga aoe specs, it's good to go slayer for the increased st

[tacit crystal]

eh

[slow saddle]

i mean

it is kindda bad ngl brother

i tried in some 16-17s

[glacial pebble]

i feel like arms does no damage man

like my stats are good and everything im doing the rotation well but jesus

i feel like a wet noodle

[untold trench]

Welcome to warrior

[dim basalt]

Its like middle-ish of the pack in pure ST

[untold trench]

Being mid is fine, means you ain't bad and you ain't great 👍

[dim basalt]

Oh he also asked about Slayer Arms in keys

Well yeah that shit is cooked

Arms in M+ in general is kinda cooked

[untold trench]

Meh, I seen plenty of ppl sharing their experience in m+, they doing just fine

Not great, just fine, far from being bad

[dim basalt]

Midnight cant come soon enough

With yesterdays changes

[glacial pebble]

fury doesnt have a problem at least

[dim basalt]

Not yet

[slow saddle]

0 arms warriors managed title score

Dno if by choice.

But theres plenty of rets

@gentle linden is the closest?

[swift flame]

any goats in race to world last

[slow saddle]

Id wish

[untold trench]

Last time I checked, it was a CN dude being top dog, was in title range at the time. Was like a month or so ago

Also we got to wait for the season to end to know if any arms warriors got there. As there is a lot of boosted elements that might or might not get removed when the time comes we gotta wait and see

[olive nest]

[slender sonnet]

armas campeo de munda?

[heady smelt]

am i crazy or can we not track rend debuff with the cooldown manager yet?

[slender sonnet]

Not yet but you can on beta so hopefully thats gonna come soon

[spiral coral]

? its tracked on target

like above their health bar

[olive nest]

I prefer it on cd manager too

Some bosses shove the health bar way up

[heady smelt]

yep but i've always tracked it for my target near my other stuff too

i also seemed to have somehow moved/removed sweeping strikes and i can no longer put it in essentials and it's only in tracked buffs now 😭

[spiral coral]

i haven't touched midnight but good god I hope there's more customization

[spiral coral]

I deleted WA

And I wanna raid

Fuck

[slow saddle]

No raid 4 u🤣

[spiral coral]

Tryna cook something for mountain thane

[strange perch]

Playing arms warrior during this season:

Have to beg to get in

Instant abandon

[nova marsh]

Dude I laughed

Woof that hurts

[livid cloak]

I got declined from a 16 today for being arms as well

I was 400 io higher than the party lead

[nova marsh]

Believe in your arms broither

[strange perch]

I love playing past midnight because people are so desperate to find players that they take me, that's how I managed to get a few +17 and even got invited to a few +18 (not timed)

[rare kite]

mans already playing The last titan

[slow saddle]

0 arms warrior made title this season

so sad 😭

[chilly copper]

I got my 3k in the 3rd week of the season as arms and called it quits while I was ahead.

If I remember right, prot pally was out dpsing me on some pulls at the time. Great tuning at the time.

[slow saddle]

m8 tuning got worse not better as arms no ?

no wait we got those 8% at somepoint didnt we

hmm, yeah i mean Fury facks so thats also why no arms title ofc

but the lack of Single target, does prob make an issue later in keys

[olive nest]

Hit 15s resil week 3 and called it quits, I decided pugging io isn’t worth my time anymore

Weekly’s and chill is were it’s at, focus on raid min max 😎

[slow saddle]

i mean puggin title sounds disgusting 😄

[olive nest]

Yeah no thanks, basically self torture 😂

[livid cloak]

Party leader doing 7 mil overall worried about arms

What a sigbt

Sight

[strange perch]

I actually manage to almost always top dmg in ara kara for some reason, then we hit the second boss, and my dmg falls into the abyss

[spiral coral]

yep that'll be me again next xpac, get whatever io needed for mounts, then do the lowest key possible for vault

[tacit crystal]

its bc the first area is just pad

and arms sucks

[livid cloak]

Ara Kara is a good arms dungeon

[last inlet]

i have to do this as warrior period sometimes.

[strange perch]

+17 DB barely done... I can see the limit of my spec

[tacit crystal]

db is a route gap

[strange perch]

Yes and it has nothing to ddo with arms doing tank dmg during the final boss and first boss

[tacit crystal]

ph that doesnt help either

also no way arms single target is that bad

give log

[livid cloak]

I got db on 19 as arms

It really is a route issue

here was an 18 i did - i wasn't dead last on boss 1

but definitely was on boss 3 lol

this is just damage ro rasha'nan (last boss)

pretty rough

[strange perch]

This makes me feel better about myself lmao

Managed to do a streets 17 now

I can do any 17 in like 3 tries

but I'm still on the 57th try for an ara 16 haha

[spiral coral]

it’s terrible

But it’s over

[tacit crystal]

okay but no way bro is supposed to do tank damage on boss 1

unless guy got every reflect

[misty bridge]

woof

[slim iron]

Difference between Plater and platynator?

[thick kelp]

the name

[livid cloak]

Platynator was built from the ground up for midnight

They are just different nameplate add ons

[strange perch]

It is absolutely one of the worst single target dps spec right now (in M+ spec, not raid spec)

Tank dmg is a hyperbole

But it is horrible

[spiral coral]

Could be wrong but I’m pretty sure it’s the same people

Just made for midnight

[chilly copper]

If I recall correctly its bad for Arms because you don't get execute phase.

End boss of DB at least

[dim basalt]

Col doesnt have an exe phase anyway

You dont want to press that button at all

[chilly copper]

I wouldn't know I preferred Slayer tbh

[tacit crystal]

also

if you do trash during boss fight

it makes everyone damage look equal

so still route issue

[strange perch]

I'll ask my party leader to bring some trashes on the boat or in the last phase, tyvm great advice

[slow saddle]

No its been used for pvp forever?

[strange perch]

I want to die

[tacit crystal]

you probably lost infinite time to bloodguards

[fossil thistle]

I sold them but I had 2 myths and 3 hero ones... I was the sac collector

[livid cloak]

The overall dam from everyone but the tank is also pretty low

Well the ret was okay

I wonder how the pulls looked

You dont have skyfury rip

[strange perch]

I don't see how I can do more dmg without shaman/monk and the second boss taking too long to kill

[tacit crystal]

press buttons more

also a lot the damage in the key is pad anyways

[strange perch]

My dmg was absolutely not an issue in that run

[spiral coral]

the mage is the issue

pathetic damage for arcane

[untold trench]

I wont say anything, but the mage did more interrupts than melee, something tells me mage was compensating at other things as well

[minor gust]

If you think that then it def was an issue

[strange perch]

Okay I invite you as an arms warrior to go into ara kara without a monk or skyfury and to do a full run like this with a mage doing 7M and show me how much better your dps is at the end
No one ever died to any bolts or revolting bolts, the kicks were not an issue either

[dim basalt]

His point is just that you should never be satisfied with your own performance

Because the chance that you played perfectly is practically 0%

[strange perch]

I am satisfied with my performance this run, I'm not going to pretend the issue was me and that every key is winnable

And nowhere did I say I played perfectly, who is even talking about this

[spiral coral]

I thought about that after saying what I said and thought the same

If I have that many INTs as a arcane/fire, something is wrong

Frost is whatever you can interrupt whenever but arcane/fire you straight up can’t interrupt a lot or your damage will plummet

Maybe they were just trying to be a team player 🤷‍♂️

[strange perch]

I'm not even blaming the mage myself, having a bad run happens, and it was far from a bad run for me

[minor gust]

^

[dim basalt]

Personally Id never bother putting any blame on other pugs, makes the game a lot more fun imo

At least not before putting myself into their pov

[nova marsh]

I dont blame pugs anymore

Any failed key is my fault entirely

[minor gust]

if you pug keys you need to have this mental if you want to keep your sanity. Failing a key by a few seconds feels awful just like wiping on a raid boss at .001%. All you can do is focus on yourself and what you could have done better because no one does a key completely perfect

[untold trench]

https://tenor.com/view/never-tell-me-the-odds-star-wars-odds-never-gif-14280242

[strange perch]

There is a difference between always telling yourself "Yeah I could have done better" and just talking/venting about how you failed a key again just to have 3 people being antagonistic for no reason

Anyway, got my ara kara clear on the 65th try exactly

Now this is actual garbage dps, I played that one horribly

[outer turret]

What utility is ARMS getting in midnight?

[dim basalt]

ranged kick, aoe stop, ms buff for party

In addition to what we have rn

Oh, also a groundtargeted Intervene that lets you absorb damage

[outer turret]

Ms buff?

Is that short for mortal strike?

[livid cloak]

And roar on a 30s cd

[minor gust]

[livid cloak]

Damn that shaman hard carried

[strange perch]

Both of them did really

[twin hazel]

So whaty is the best loot out of Manaforge for us?

[nova marsh]

Yes

[rare kite]

wowhead has a list. but preferably you just sim yourself

[strange perch]

FINALLY 3500 AS ARMS

I am done this season, I played so much and I think I did alright as a new retail player

[tacit crystal]

grats

[untold trench]

Big, gj! Now push as far as you go. Ya got this

[livid cloak]

[slender sonnet]

very large

[nova marsh]

Im the 11th hour too. Good job

[minor gust]

[robust cypress]

stat prio isnt changing during prepatch right?

[tacit crystal]

dunno i just listen to robot

[weak barn]

Bankai

[topaz rain]

should i be holding colossus smash to use with demolish

[livid cloak]

Depends how long you have on demolish.

They're best to sync yes, usually if you have like 15 to 20s left on demolish you'll get it during a cs window especially with ravager going

[slow saddle]

@livid cloak just crit🤣🫡, and resets!

And it syncs

I still remember when exe gave stacks in exe range u could get 2 demos per cs🤣🫡

With heroism

[glacial pebble]

is arms sticking to the same stats in prepatch?

crit haste

[hexed saddle]

very likely

[strange perch]

And done, I'm never playing low tier ever again

[magic canopy]

rend blow up

colossus (blown) up

[slow saddle]

Low tier?

Arms fucks!!!

In my dreams💩😵

[maiden moat]

you know if arms or fury will be stronger in pre patch ?

[sharp wyvern]

if your EU you can wait for the NA beta test tomorrow and see

[subtle cloak]

Arms or fury for prepatch m+?

[hexed saddle]

who cares

its prepatch

[sharp wyvern]

whats the new stat priority in prepatch

[spiral coral]

Doesn’t matter.

Fury.

[nova marsh]

GUYS SHOULD I REROLL FOR PRE PATCH CUZ ITS OVERRR?

[nova marsh]

Guys

was underpin fun'

[latent moss]

prepatch chatting

[wind hatch]

I liked it

[dim basalt]

Underpin sucked balls

[steel furnace]

compared to kyveza yea underpin kinda trash

[wet current]

https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/news/final-war-within-and-legion-remix-spec-and-group-popularity-rankings/

[tacit crystal]

not last

[wet current]

I find this data interesting. A spec I love so much is so undesirable lol

[tacit crystal]

i mean

its just undertuned and not fit for m+ compared to fury or other specs

it cannot do its full st rotation while doing maximum aoe

it loses too much to do so

[wet current]

Yeah i was excited for midnight redesign and then we barely got updated

[tacit crystal]

happens

[wet current]

Yep

[slow saddle]

We got massive changes

Then, pvp crybabies and noobs on forums killed it

And we got avatar back with fin am

[sly flume]

I may have already asked this (I'm a maniac), but is there an updaated builds list?

[slow saddle]

Does sd reap work on live?

[tacit crystal]

not sure try checking if wowhead is already updated for prepatch

[slow saddle]

Or is it still beta only?

[sly flume]

Also while in smash windows, am i spamming MS for the incresed window time, or should i be building up the buffs to MS before using it?

[tacit crystal]

ms on cd

[slow saddle]

How do u spam ms?

🥲

[tacit crystal]

press it when its available

[slow saddle]

Well spammin implies eb. But eb be gone

Also overpower trucks. With dreaddynautghy

[wet current]

Yeah this was pretty disappointing. So it was because of PVP? Figures. I really hope they revisit us in a .5 update

[slow saddle]

It was but they didnt give the root removal they wanted

🤣

[spiral coral]

They’re too busy fucking around with housing to bother

[olive nest]

[spiral coral]

CritCake already said we’re shit

Hasn’t been two seconds

I didn’t watch the video

I just saw Arms crossed out on the thumbnail and got sad

[olive nest]

Yeah it’s always doom and gloom

Arms is still the best

[zealous flume]

i didnt see any up to date Sims with the latest builds actually

did i miss them?

[spiral coral]

in PvP yeah shit slaps

[spiral coral]

I think it’ll be posted later on

[zealous flume]

id imagine most peoples secondaries are fully geared for fury rn anyway so even if arms was just as good its unlikely to out-sim for prepatch either way

unless arms statweights changed dramatically

which they might have idk

[sacred zodiac]

crafting items is free and almost just as good as equivalent track non crafted items

plus most of us probably have offspec pieces from reclears or vault whiffs with full sockets, itemization is quite literally never a reason ppl wouldnt play a spec over another

[olive nest]

Very likely that skill won’t be able to out play the difference between crafted and non crafted (I know I couldn’t)

[spiral coral]

I mean. Talking about stats is crystal ball shit but generally arms doesn’t switch well into fury. Fury switches well into arms though.

[sacred zodiac]

announcing that something is crystal ball shit and then immediately peering into the crystal ball is crazy work

[spiral coral]

Mhm

Fury has low crit, generally, and arms likes high crit. Fury loves high mastery, arms generally doesn’t.

But from what I’ve seen arms likes all stats, doesn’t really matter. Fury seems more finicky.

[fervent cedar]

Beta only

[lean geode]

Hey all you cool cats and kittens, with prepatch today, wowanalyzer should (afaik) be cutting over to their midnight branch, which includes a pretty substantial restructure, particularly for fury. There will 100% be bugs - if you find any issues, please let me know and I can try to get them fixed before the expansion actually launches. Also note that the rotation APL checks are pretty much just placeholder stuff for now, not that it matters much in prepatch anyways

[dire hinge]

thanks for your work on this biddawwg

[lean geode]

🫡

[slow saddle]

Arms desperately want crit as.col though

And if slayer

U can easily play haste-mastery

[thick kelp]

buddy please update good rend uptime to 80%

its so ass we dont press it for 100%

[lean geode]

I haven't touched any of the rend uptime stuff but looks like the threshold (set 7 years ago) is 70%

[thick kelp]

sim averae is 83.25%

[last saddle]

remove rend

[minor gust]

Beta only rn

[robust cypress]

how's arms looking in the beta?

[wet current]

Would be nice

[nova marsh]

We have no rage and colossus is dead

Otherwise, pretty normal. Not too great not awfup

[robust cypress]

But slayer is good in the raid?

[slow saddle]

If wow is p2w, what the f are hunters payin blizzy

[slow saddle]

We do seem to have a better toolkit than midnight

[minor gust]

lots of wow tokens to buy their boosts and carries

[slow saddle]

Heck start buying.team.brown!