they arent really in sync you should check your wipers
#arms
gaunt owl
so if boss has 20 billion HP you bring 20 Arms and kill the boss speedrun any%
you can rotate it with good taunt and DBTS
no healer required i like it
next oak
Legion was a F tier Expansion, WoD was better.
nova marsh
Legion was a F tier Expansion, WoD was better.
Not real rage bait
Shadowlands was better then legion
balmy kindle
Legion was amazing outside of AP grind and rng leggos
nova marsh
And ToS 
balmy kindle
DW we can enjoy laying the smack down on kiljaeden in remix 
nova marsh
and avatar
dim basalt
Legion was a F tier Expansion, WoD was better.
WoD was better in terms of raids tbh
Tho very close
grave mulch
wod fucking sucked ASS
First teir sucked
2nd teir was Average
only good fight in citadel was last boss
They cut so much content from WOD. and that contributes to it sucking
leveling was BORING
untold pewter
SL had great raids
Bro Sylannas ruined it but CN was very good
SFO was supposed to be good then they cut the longest raid short at 4.5 months to push Fated in
Still had fun in last tier but killing Jailer after they basically removed an entire phase from him wasn't very satisfying
SoD lasted 8 months
SFO lasted 4.5 months
They fucked up bad
fresh spire
They speed ran fated in and exploded jailors pp
misty yew
dire hinge
It should yeah, that’s likely a local bug with your installation. Sometimes folks can fix it with a game/PC restart, or by uninstalling and reinstalling the addon
warped ether
I will never forget jailor falling trough the floor
slow saddle
Bro Sylannas ruined it but CN was very good
SFO was supposed to be good then th...
I mean sylv wasnt to bad
warped ether
I will never forget jailor falling trough the floor
That dude slipped like he walked on a banana
slow saddle
Apart from storyline
untold pewter
I mean sylv wasnt to bad
14 min fight that entire p2 was a slog
Progressing through that fight was just pain
We did finish the tier relatively quickly and recleared a bunch but, at the time, hating Sylv prog (primarily because of how long the fight was) was a very general consensus
It was then that Blizzard "promised" to not make long fights like that anymore because of the mostly negative feedback on it
And then they did 12min Razageth 
dim basalt
I enjoy long fights ngl
I feel like they should make a raid that is only 1 boss but super long with checkpoints, kinda like Lost Ark
untold pewter
Sounds like Ultimate fights in FF14
Difference being holding 8 people engaged on progging that for months is a bit easier than holding 20
dim basalt
Shouldnt really change anything tho
You technically still have different fights, its just always the same boss
untold pewter
Hard to covince people that they're accomplishing things by just progressing through phases
dim basalt
¯_(ツ)_/¯
balmy kindle
Castle nanthria still ages well 
, only stone legion was bad
halcyon valve
Truth
halcyon valve
P2 shitshow and to many platforma
Honestly, every phase on its own was really good
Just in the sum total the fight ended up too long because of it
P2 group splitting with the bridges went kinda hard
sacred zodiac
Castle nanthria still ages well <:okayge:917646812519739433> , only stone legion...
huh
balmy kindle
Idk I hated stone legion generals, very boring fight in an otherwise awesome raid
sacred zodiac
no the other way around
that raid had 2 good fights with one of them being designed against warrior
balmy kindle
Not wrong but the raid was enjoyable though, at least for a heroic pleb like me
Sun king was another eh encounter but thank god it was a one off ?
untold pewter
I liked all fights but it was a hell of a shit tier for dps warrior
I member people were bringing prot instead of DPS for CN
Only gripe I had with SLG was the weird bugs like those adds not coming down from the sky and other weird shit happening
sacred zodiac
iirc you didnt bring prot cause you needed the other tanks
boreal remnant
slg sucked
nova marsh
Bro all the shadowlands raids were pretty mid tbh
I still don't know why CN is glazed
mortal niche
gaunt owl
CN had some god awful fight til they fixed them
SLG for example
Denatrius was a really awesome fight
sacred zodiac
Denatrius was a really awesome fight
surely arms does top dog damage on the fight that was literally designed around them perfectly. literally almost 100% execute uptime on 2 target cleave. unbelievable
nova marsh
Arms does damage?
spiral coral
arms fucking owns
jovial hare
nova marsh
wary raft
soft viper
arms fucking owns
YEAH! BONK NATION!!
reef glade
surely arms does top dog damage on the fight that was literally designed around ...
surely warrior did good damage that entire raid tier a lot of single target bosses with damage amps/burn windows!!!
sage bison
@stable fiber Have you been able to spell reflect the pools on dimmy and make them not spawn?
boreal quartz
surely warrior did good damage that entire raid tier a lot of single target boss...
Sludgefist timer incident
oak kite
asked if i could go arms in a floodgate 12. bamm 49million demolish on BigMomma. i know it does not count but damn it felt good.
boss damage though -.- nowhere near fury slayer -.- like there was a clear 1.7-2m difference.
quasi torrent
surely warrior did good damage that entire raid tier a lot of single target boss...
labubu missile deployed to your location
fast nebula
do our % modifiers from avatar, cds ect buff our remix debuffs and procs from artifact?
boreal remnant
do our % modifiers from avatar, cds ect buff our remix debuffs and procs from ar...
afaik yes but don't quote me
grave mulch
Man i was watching Max video with the people talking about specs and people
and we got a tiktoker rep us
we are in not great
lofty pulsar
i know the answer is sim it cause only about 3 people here actually play the spec, but what's the crit/haste cutoffs to start dumping into masteruy
currently at over 40% for both crit and haste
nova marsh
we are in not great
Ehhhh touchpad isn't a bad dude
He at least seems like he understands arms. Idk
fierce inlet
his take for 'not great' was that it's roughly more of the same but you use slam more, which imo isn't the worst thing because Arms is already a pretty fun vibey spec to play as is and with midnight smoothing things out more it'll feel even better.
boreal remnant
and we got a tiktoker rep us
who
boreal remnant
i know the answer is sim it cause only about 3 people here actually play the spe...
there's not really an answer to that
like the only answer you're going to get is to sim it
there aren't any specific stat breakpoints you're ever thinking about
that's just not a thing anymore
rare kite
He at least *seems* like he understands arms. Idk
Ehh to a certain degreee, saying we have to slam 3x before we ms xD
boreal quartz
and we got a tiktoker rep us
idk man its a mountcollector
surely you can ask someone like 
to run us down again
legendary clip from sepulcher really
rare kite
He’s a nice dude but not really a good representative of a warrior/arms player
grave mulch
He’s a nice dude but not really a good representative of a warrior/arms player
i agree man hes a nice guy fun little tips and stuff thats about it.
dim basalt
I mean Im sure he would give better opinions if he looked at stuff for more than a few seconds
cunning comet
Stjpa
latent moss
pauck
cunning comet
Cone656
Stjpa
Philwardraenor
And many more
Gio67
@spiral coral what is on your mind
cunning comet
Wie läufts im Lotto, Großer
I dont speak this language sorry im from glorious kingdom of bosnia 🇧🇦
boreal quartz
@thick kelpwhat does this mean
sharp wyvern
controller not supported 
median scroll
<@865605822638063647>what does this mean
odd oasis
I'm so sad nobody was logging this but this is number one parse by far in 18 ecodome
sullen moat
the thing with arms is...peeps underrate it to much. get high crit and go nuts.
dim basalt
Nobody underrates it, Fury is just better
sullen moat
Nobody underrates it, Fury is just better
yes it is. but pugging as arms warr is kinda hard cos peeps think they do -dps or something. ive heard so many times now that they didten think arms could do good dmg and thats why they normally dont inv them. so saying that people dont do that aint rigth
odd oasis
they 100% get underrated
sullen moat
they 100% get underrated
yep
odd oasis
ive tested by applying to groups for an hour and not getting accepted, then swap to fury and its less than 5 minutes
sullen moat
ive tested by applying to groups for an hour and not getting accepted, then swap...
and its the sad part
peeps needs to chill 😄
odd oasis
worst is is you see an arcane mage as group leader you could be 200 io higher than group and still not get invited
sullen moat
worst is is you see an arcane mage as group leader you could be 200 io higher th...
ye
minor gust
and its the sad part
That's just the reality of pugging hard content in an MMO. That's why the correct option if you really enjoy pushing keys is to make friends
If your only interaction with pushing keys is pugging you're in for a bad time
halcyon valve
Nobody underrates it, Fury is just better
Lies
Fury does not even exist
hexed saddle
Lies
Fury does not even exist
that just makes arms under representation in raids worse btw
sullen moat
That's just the reality of pugging hard content in an MMO. That's why the correc...
ye. i get that part =D. but its just in general that peeps get the wrong understanding of arms
dim basalt
I wonder how many arms dimmy parses are there I haven't checked
6 
And one is probably boosted
minor gust
I can't wait till farm
And I get to play arms on NK and dimmy
Gonna be so much fun right?
halcyon valve
Always play arms
jovial hare
Dont let em stop ya
rl won't let me swap off my dk for dimmy 
jovial hare
shit u right
nova marsh
Gaslight the entire guild until he's Gkicked
jovial hare
he is also the gm, same process?
nova marsh
Alright, Gaslight the entire guild into joining your guild by being a better raid lead them him
slow saddle
Problem, having to raidlead
loud fjord
boreal remnant
upbeat pelican
fast nebula
light weight baby
spiral coral
<@392851240255619082> what is on your mind
cunning comet
@tacit crystal i know a bar out in mars where they drive spaceships instead of cars
boreal remnant
<@335579026259312641> i know a bar out in mars where they drive spaceships inste...
not my favorite kind of mars bar but good as well
cunning comet
🖕
quick badge
how much of a troll is it to go arms on NK prog?
minor gust
how much of a troll is it to go arms on NK prog?
pretty troll
last saddle
yea you should play fury on prog then swap to arms for the kill
vast glacier
how much of a troll is it to go arms on NK prog?
If your raid deletes the platforms Arms should be fine. But think about it, that you troll at 100% in the most important part of the fight
vast glacier
But after turbo boost, platform should be easy
untold pewter
how much of a troll is it to go arms on NK prog?
I'm usually the one that says "just play what you're best at" and stuck with Arms blasting through almost every boss almost every tier but yeah... For NK it's pretty troll, I had to swap to Fury to help prog
Then again, if your team isn't struggling at all with platforms or stuff like that, you could in theory just go Slayer for some execute damage
gritty karma
Quick question. Does sweeping strike work on demolish?
sacred zodiac
first two hits ye
gritty karma
Its worth to press IT before every demolish in aoe scenario
Or better to save it
After
For quicker stacks
thick kelp
before
summer elbow
Good morning and happy week to all my arms friends enjoyers 
quasi torrent
@thick kelp how does it feel that HS is just the slam apex talent
summer elbow
Like how much dps i loss if i go colo arms instead fury on m+? Like worts overalls?
10 30%
?
thick kelp
0%
olive nest
minor gust
Like how much dps i loss if i go colo arms instead fury on m+? Like worts overal...
If you have to ask it's too late for your soul to be saved.
cinder timber
Hi! I’m a beginner Arms Warrior player.
When you’re raiding with the Slayer hero talent, do you pay attention to the Opportunist buff?
For example, if MS is available and you also have the Opportunist buff, do you usually use OP first and then MS, or is it better to always prioritize MS first regardless of the situation?
lofty pulsar
So should I wait for sweeping strikes to use colossus/pair them?
minor gust
Hi! I’m a beginner Arms Warrior player.
When you’re raiding with the Slayer hero...
https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1237303208754286715 any of the guides in here can get you started and will have everything for abillities priority. If you got something specific you dont understand after reading feel free to ask away
vast glacier
Hi! I’m a beginner Arms Warrior player.
When you’re raiding with the Slayer hero...
Like said, the wowhead guide is peak and will lift every question you have. (And yes you track that buff because it changes priority) But Overall how it changes and whats biggest prio and so on is listed in the guide
lean wraith
anyone know when realms are meant to be back up?
lean wraith
ffs ):
how come i can see people in dorn?
is it for the suramar patch
also, where do i go to find out information like this
so many people in my bnet are playing rn, people are doing keys
vast glacier
Maybe european ?
hexed saddle
pretty much the only way thats possible is if ur european
in which case they don't reset for several hours
last saddle
only 4 more hours of maint
grave mulch
thats absolutely insane....
its 7:52 AM for me and they are usually up when i wake up
olive nest
cant wait for that 5pm pdt update
grave mulch
cant wait for that 5pm pdt update
it just came up
silk eagle
olive nest
it just came up
true! big
bright whale
Did Arms get extra buff for M+ now ?
minor gust
No?
grave mulch
Did Arms get extra buff for M+ now ?
Do you see anything in the Updates channel?
sage badge
Arms owns.
minor gust
lofty pulsar
If sweeping is close to coming off cd and demolish is ready should I wait for sweeping if the target amount is appropriate
minor gust
if your in 2T you can hold if its mass aoe not a big deal
lofty pulsar
So mass aoe just rip it got it
Colossal smash is anything over 10 seconds just rip it right on demolish
minor gust
in ST yeah just rip demolish if CS cd is 10+ but aoe you can hold but to be honest WB and demo should never be misaligned
boreal remnant
Arms owns.
Deswind brown
acoustic mulch
how much dps will i loose if i play 730 items with Sockets as Arms instead of 2 727 Embelishment items? i‘m not at home i cant Sim 😢
grave mulch
how much dps will i loose if i play 730 items with Sockets as Arms instead of 2 ...
how are we to know?
vast glacier
Depends on the items ?
fluid zinc
does anyone know why ara kara sac brood is not on the puzzling cartel chip vendor
sacred zodiac
probs an oversight
zenith warren
is there a macro to mass open crest packs?
untold pewter
is there a macro to mass open crest packs?
Bro... Lmfao
zenith warren
lmfao what
spamming 60 times right button doesnt feel right
xd
I remember than in wotlk classic you could exchange badges with macro so wonder if it's still possible
crystal nexus
myth cursed stone idol sims 166k behind my araz ritual forge in champion for 5 target. is my stat prio just fucked and should I take it regardless?
fast plover
How is this still not fixed
I'm actually baffled how blizz can be this slow, it's insane how that's not hotfixed within a couple of hours
crystal nexus
How is this still not fixed
currently seems like their fix for it was to just remove ara-kara items from the vendor :s
fast plover
currently seems like their fix for it was to just remove ara-kara items from the...
Terrible fix considering you can still buy the weapons for s2 dinars...
soft viper
where is my sacbrood?! >.>
minor gust
It's gonna be real funny if I come home and still have all my extra dinars I farmer
crystal nexus
Terrible fix considering you can still buy the weapons for s2 dinars...
ah i only had it set to arms, i assumed they removed everything cause there's no sacbrood on the vendor
lofty pulsar
Ok so if I’m at resil 14’s why isn’t the entire mythic cartel chip shop open lol
(For dungeons)
boreal remnant
myth cursed stone idol sims 166k behind my araz ritual forge in champion for 5 t...
araz is a 2 minute trinket and you're a 1.5 min class
don't go forge
crystal nexus
araz is a 2 minute trinket and you're a 1.5 min class
ahhh that makes sense
ty for the help
boreal remnant
Ok so if I’m at resil 14’s why isn’t the entire mythic cartel chip shop open lol
bugged
shadow ibex
arms ended up right where it started 
grave mulch
the fact that arms is gapped SO hard and blizzard doesnt give a shit
Aug is way above us as a support spec 
untold pewter
This late in the tier, hall of fame closed, turbo boost in, nah they won't give a shit
shadow ibex
the fact that arms is gapped SO hard and blizzard doesnt give a shit
is this from week 1
boreal remnant
the fact that arms is gapped SO hard and blizzard doesnt give a shit
at least your username fits
shadow ibex
dull siren
the fact that arms is gapped SO hard and blizzard doesnt give a shit
Arms is fine
grave mulch
is this from week 1
its week 1 if you are still living in it
grave mulch
at least your username fits
My discord handle was Doomer before this class discord was a thing . I use to be into the GZdoom community. but hey take them baby shots if you want to
grave mulch
Arms is fine
na i disagree the profile in raid is shit af
dull siren
I mean, There's a difference in Arms being bad or being a bad fit for the fights
boreal remnant
remember also that the graph is scewed due to the popularity of fury vs popularity of arms
dull siren
You are doing some pretty good numbers as arms if you actually press buttons correctly
grave mulch
and gets dunked every turn
dull siren
on these bosses
grave mulch
remember also that the graph is scewed due to the popularity of fury vs populari...
Its also that fury profile is just better period in AOE and ST
dull siren
Fury wouldve been in the trashcan
if it wasn't for the tier set
starting to interact with more than 1 target
grave mulch
Saying "Would of" doesnt mean anything
because numbers are speaking for themselves across the board
dull siren
Arms is completly fine for the raid right now
Arms is doing fury number on most bosses outside of NK / Dimmy
grave mulch
not even close
grave mulch
its doing better at every corner. and i love arms i really do but its just not there to go against fury.
dull siren
I mean, There's private logs of ppl playing Arms and it's doing fine
and it's preforming well
grave mulch
How do you know if they are private
dull siren
I wonder how
dull siren
You can play Arms on every boss and do fine, Just because you aren't pad maxxing doesn't mean your damage is bad.
grave mulch
They had so much time to do something but didnt. its just a fact that
dull siren
It's a tier made for burst classes fury isn't that anymore neither is Arms
the damage is fine it's the profile for the bosses that's bad
grave mulch
what cope
dull siren
Not really
boreal remnant
calling that cope rofl
grave mulch
yes
dull siren
I mean, It's okay to be cluegi deluxe
boreal remnant
he's 100% right
shadow ibex
none of this is represented in logs
so its irrelevant lmao
saying trust me means nothing
boreal remnant
he's already said there's arms warriors in private logs competing with fury
shadow ibex
ok lets see them then
boreal remnant
actually I shouldn't say competing with fury because that's a difference of damage profile mostly
grave mulch
these are both mythic soul binder
dull siren
XDDDDDD
grave mulch
ABSOUTLELY SHIT ON
boreal remnant
again, damage profile
grave mulch
hold on
dull siren
Ur not real for linking soul binder
boreal remnant
the boss that's just "how much damage can you do to the adds in .2 seconds"
and you're comparing fury vs arms
grave mulch
loom
boreal remnant
and blaming arms for being "undertuned"
grave mulch
ANd its being shit on a ST fight
grave mulch
the spec is poor dude. the fights are pooly made
dull siren
"the fights are pooly made"
grave mulch
Even in frac
Arms wasnt cared for
it truly wasnt . you can sit on that hills of illusions
grave mulch
Like it wasnt cared for in fuck all profiles compared to fury or other specs
Blizzard dropped it ages AGO
across the board
boreal remnant
if you say so
grave mulch
what a cop out^
boreal remnant
don't think there's much reason to argue with someone who doesn't want to read
dull siren
I mean, Literally said fight's were not designed for arms.
There isn't anything that's really wooo! for Arms.
You then come back with "the fights are poorly made".
Arms is fine, It's not undertuned if you look at frac stats.
Instead of just linking avg when Fury player base is 50x Arms right now as well.
A bad tier for the spec it is what it is
If there was a goated execute duration fight or just fury didn't get the tier set change
it wouldve been way closer
between the specs
shadow ibex
its also just under tuned
boreal remnant
xd
dull siren
It's not that undertuned it's specs in worse situations.
shadow ibex
even in the ideal scenarios
its still just middle of the pack at best
so yea its under tuned
shadow ibex
when you are a one trick ST spec
grave mulch
like i said blizzard left it undertunned compared our other DPS spec and chose to do nothing about it. The arms profile as been cried on in this discord for god knows how long and nothing IS DONE. a tiny band aid at the start oh wowwwzaaaa. The fights suck the spec is blasted out the windows across the board. the fights for it arent good whats so ever.
shadow ibex
even in the ideal scenario the execute one trick is middle of the pack
grave mulch
https://tenor.com/view/shut-up-gif-15864401401309874112
what a gif to resort to
dull siren
🤝
grave mulch
thats childish
dull siren
Ok and?
boreal remnant
grave mulch
its funny you would rather retreat
dull siren
I've said my peace, It's going in a loop with people who are just made to complain.
grave mulch
then admit that blizzard doesnt give a shit for the longest time. Only arms is gettings big changes in midnight and its taken a LONG time
boreal remnant
I mean he's given you all of the information against what you're claiming and you don't want to look at any of it so I'd say it's more than fair to agree to disagree
dull siren
grave mulch
jovial hare
mortal crag
https://tenor.com/view/rizzler-the-rizzler-christian-turn-rizzler-turn-gif-34684...
tmy ive been stealing ur gifs rn
i took like 4 gifs
back to back
dull siren
marble sleet
hey friends...so as an arms warrior should i stop stackign crit at a certain poitn? is there some sorta cap?
jovial hare
hey friends...so as an arms warrior should i stop stackign crit at a certain poi...
when the sim robot says stop
rapid bronze
are you able to craft 2 x ring of earthen craftsmanship?
stable fiber
are you able to craft 2 x ring of earthen craftsmanship?
yes
minor gust
God damn I missed some good shit an hour ago
dawn wasp
If you bladestorm during the Spirits during Nexus King, does that fuck up you looking at them because you're spinning?
minor gust
no your safe
dawn wasp
oh shit maybe I just suck then
sand totem
Hey lads, sorry for a noob question. But as a classic andy, weapon damage was always king for warriors cuz thats how it scaled. But I'm seeing all the abilities now are AP based. Is a weapon essentially just a statstick like every other piece of gear now?
thick kelp
yes
slow saddle
i know arms is bad at aoe
but at least our boss dmg is good
RIGHT?
oh but mby our OVERALL is good
celest forge
Finally my first 8m overall key 🙏🏻
cunning comet
juju on dat bear
stable fiber
Hey lads, sorry for a noob question. But as a classic andy, weapon damage was al...
weapon damage is still king in a sense
any other slot 717 - 730 isnt that big a dps jump, but its MASSIVE for a weapon
it just isnt as big as it is in classic
boreal remnant
oh shit maybe I just suck then
just in case, make sure to hold right click to move your camera to actually change the direction you're facing
dawn wasp
Oh I have been and that's how I always move and turn. We just started pulling him last night so I guess I just got a get more reps in
soft viper
been goofin lately with slayer in keys and i managed 8m in a 12 priory. new personal record :3
dire hinge
happy thursday, nerds 
sage badge
Arms owns.
brazen sun
boreal remnant
brazen sun
soft viper
ruby basin
any other slot 717 - 730 isnt that big a dps jump, but its MASSIVE for a weapon
13 ilevels in classic is a full tier upgrade
stable fiber
yeah im aware
going from starshatter to sha of fear axe was like 10k dps alone which was like 8%
then upgrading it twice was another 4-6%
weapons still are the most important slot, they just matter less than in classic
ruby basin
MoP still has huge power creep
stable fiber
yeah it gets crazy
ruby basin
In vanilla for example you get a pair of gloves and it’s a 1% dps increase yet ppl still lose their shit over the purple pixels
I came back to retail recently, and going from a fresh 80 to 700 ilevel is so jarring
celest forge
10x'ing your health and damage on the way to 70 and 10x'ing it again to 80 is also jarring
agile pewter
hi guys, how arms is looking so far for midnight? :p
bright whale
Looks good
nova marsh
#1423008987699351643 but pretty good so far aside from the most cursed pathing known to man
balmy kindle
is good but the rest kinda eh
upbeat pelican
slow saddle
Talent tree worse than ever
sharp wyvern
But look at all those 2 point passive nodes
Are you not happy we don't lose them and use them over capstones
blazing crescent
How about deep wounds. I just leanred (havent been arms long) that DW doesnt stack but resets when you MS again. Do i need to worry about letting it tick off before doing an MS?
Mop classic
frosty valley
Is maw of the void still bis weapon for arms?
boreal remnant
Yeah
Well
Unless you're using ascendence
Whether maw or crafted wep is better is a 
question
rare kite
Mop classic
this discord is for retail. fight club is for classic
blazing crescent
this discord is for retail. fight club is for classic
Thx
lofty pulsar
lofty pulsar
been goofin lately with slayer in keys and i managed 8m in a 12 priory. new pers...
God dang you got some good reap procs
olive nest
soft viper
God dang you got some good reap procs
heck ya. cleave i feel does a lot of the reap proccing
sullen moat
it does indeed. ive been having fun with this
CcEArbixk/ZKwTdpZGVHeylmLghZmZmZmxwystsMzMAAAADmGGWMzwMLjZmHAzMjZGmhBAAAAAAgZMLjxA2CjttZzMLDLGGmZmpNaGYDA
celest forge
Is there some kind of bug with Details that we know of? I'm dealing 15 million DPS sustained over 1 minute+ in the K'aresh open world, and that's obviously not possible.
last saddle
nah theres like a buff on some of the phase diving elites that makes you pump
lofty pulsar
been goofin lately with slayer in keys and i managed 8m in a 12 priory. new pers...
For some reason my details will tell me I’m above 9 mill then when I go to warcraftlogs it’s like “lol no it’s 7.9 mill”
nova marsh
For some reason my details will tell me I’m above 9 mill then when I go to warcr...
Sounds like an aug
hazy flower
Logs include downtime, details only combat
If you wait before every pull for healer to drink or whatever your log damage will be lower as well
halcyon valve
whispering random fury warriors in groupfinder to play arms, doing my part
slow saddle
Next week ill start workin on my arms set
empty nova
Does anyone know if during Sweeping Strikes we gain stacks of Collateral Damage when using abilities such as Cleave, Thunder Clap and Thunderous Roar?
dire hinge
Does anyone know if during Sweeping Strikes we gain stacks of Collateral Damage ...
The tooltip for Collateral Damage only counts when single-target abilities hit a second target. So Thunderclap/Troar wouldn't count because they're not single target abilities.
Cleave surprisingly does cout, but not because of the spell itself. Instead, it works because of Fervor of Battle, which makes Cleave generate a Slam on your primary target if Cleave hits 2+ targets. The Slam that is generated gets swept, and is a single-target ability, so it counts.
empty nova
Thanks mate but the reason I asked is because it does NOT say what you stated it says. It says as the tooltip shows, “each ability used during Sweeping Strikes that damaged a second target.”
Which would include Thunder Clap, Thunderous Roar, Champ spear etc
dire hinge
that's valid, yeah i edited it quick, but it's chained logic from "sweeping strike that hits a second target" and SS itself only works on single-target abilities
you're very valid that this is some phrasing they could improve
empty nova
Its rules as written vs rules as intended situation, but very thankful for your reminder of Fervour of Battle because that explains why Cleave works!
dire hinge
absolutely! happy to help, that's what we're here for
empty nova
Improve is very generous, its flat out incorrect. Its strange that stuff like this goes so long without being correct if ever
dire hinge
it is technically correct, but it's phrased in a way where it could be interpretted two different ways
empty nova
I don’t see how it’s technically correct. It’s technically incorrect, no?
Interesting thought, if theres three targets and you cleave during sweeping strikes, does it give two stacks of collateral dam?
Due to the reverb talent double hitting with cleave, does it proc a second fervour slam?
dire hinge
it's a linguistics thing, but basically the way they've stated it could be read two ways:
- You get bonus damage for every ability that Sweeping Strikes affected (the intented interpretation)
- You get bonus damage for every ability that happened to be AoE (your interpretation)
the lack of specificity means people can read it the second way, which is what they could improve on, and is something i'd suggest submitting via the Feedback UI in-game 
dire hinge
Interesting thought, if theres three targets and you cleave during sweeping stri...
When your Cleave hits three targets (or 50!), it still only procs a single Fervour of Battle talent, because the talent reads: "if cleave hits 2 or more targets". Three/Fifty targets would qualify under the "or more" portion.
if Sweeping Strikes is up, that single (1) slam would get swept, so 1 Collateral Damage stack
empty nova
Did they remove seismic reverb talent? The one that does a repeated cleave for 30% dmg?
dire hinge
it's on the warrior side of the tree still yeah
empty nova
Wait no its still there. So if it hits them again then rules as written it is another (albeit weaker) cleave hitting 2+ targets. So another fervour slam ought to proc
dire hinge
nah, Seismic doesn't trigger Fervor
it's its own, seperate effect that mirrors the damage of the initial button press
empty nova
Migrating back go Arms after a long time playing Demonology haha trying to squeeze every bit of power
dire hinge
all good, it's easy to overthink arms, but in the end a lot of it is just "follow the wowhead rotation"
empty nova
Thank you so much for your help mate it has been very well appreciated
dire hinge
of course! The arms community is genuinely pretty helpful and polite if you ever have more questions
welcome to arms!
sage badge
Arms owns.
halcyon valve
fresh spire
Arms owns.
always has (Expect this tier)
olive nest
halcyon valve
i will never stop chasing the big post-bladestorm mortal strikes
spare lichen
i have achieved nirvana
fossil thistle
Yea but have you ever tried chicken nuggets?
stable fiber
dino nuggets*
minor gust
dino nuggets and smile fries are peak
spiral coral
Omg I missed arms
void bay
dino nuggets and smile fries are peak
I like alphabetti spaghetti
void bay
Omg I missed arms
grave mulch
I hate using charge on Mythic Loom dude
slow saddle
I hate using charge on Mythic Loom dude
empty nova
Anyone know the best way to farm Ethereal Voidsplinters?
Any particular level of Delves? Or is keys better?
12 keys and 7 delves not one splinter, need two charges to swap to myth items…
sacred zodiac
arent they still on the 1 cata charge every 2 weeks system?
dim basalt
yes
empty nova
Nah with turbo boost they drop from delves raids and m+. Just havent seen one and figured someone might know the best farm
unkempt light
Did my m+ vault full and 5 bosses heroic raid and got 4 of them
mental laurel
heyho guys, a guy told me in SOD that you macro "/startattack" into your skills to gain more rage with your autoattacks because you dont interrupt them. Is this also a thing in retail? because he told me it also works there.
mental laurel
buddy told me on some bosses it can happen but i guess thats a skill issue
astral yarrow
buddy told me on some bosses it can happen but i guess thats a skill issue
/startattack is tied to any offensive action you do. Pressing OP with no target, will target your nearest target and use OP which starts your swing timer after an initial hit
minor gust
heyho guys, a guy told me in SOD that you macro "/startattack" into your skills ...
You do that in classic because your auto attack doesn't start unless you right click a mob first or use an offensive ability. So you macro start attack in everything so your auto is always going off right away. This isn't a thing anymore in retail
mental laurel
ty guys
floral sierra
perfection
minor gust
40/40/20/10 is perfection your so close
stable fiber
I hate using charge on Mythic Loom dude
12 hours late but charge not charging you into melee range is the most cringe thing
happens on mop and loom
trim lintel
tropic mortar
perfection
One message removed from a suspended account.
slow saddle
MY GOD BUFF ARMS
balmy kindle
MY GOD BUFF ARMS
You will enjoy BM dominating content and you will enjoy it until midnight
slow saddle
😭
at least we got fury... which is ok
i miss playing arms though, but not hamstringing myself
balmy kindle
Realistically if min maxing BM blows alot of classes out of the water and it's not even close, I am not sure how blizzard still allows the spec to exist at its current numbers
boreal quartz
Realistically if min maxing BM blows alot of classes out of the water and it's n...
The usual drawback of bad with movement 
balmy kindle
Yea DR is Gamba but in that 2 min span BM just cranks out a ton of damage 
balmy kindle
well blizz thinks it's fair
The silver lining is that with turbo boost any class can legit do 18-20s in a fixed group
boreal quartz
Ye but they did a 24 no?
balmy kindle
Yeah but I am taking from a normal person pov lol, ain't no way I am doing 24s, I'll be very happy just making 18-20s
boreal quartz
Yeah but I am taking from a normal person pov lol, ain't no way I am doing 24s, ...
I think only the gingi team did a 24
But it's also TGP
So ye
balmy kindle
Like the only real weakness a BM has is being rather fragile but great BM players know how to manage
halcyon valve
Yeah but I am taking from a normal person pov lol, ain't no way I am doing 24s, ...
Sorry to break it to you, but doing 18-20s is not normal person behaviour 
balmy kindle
Normal is relative
Still working on res 17 but realistically it's gonna be late Nov Dec when my tank gets back
balmy kindle
Surv hunter is pretty fun this season though, kinda lacks top end boss damage but the uptime and insane cleave is pretty fun
quaint otter
Ye my mate plays surv and gets instakicked when exposed hes not bm 🤙
sacred zodiac
Why vers at 3%?
why deswind not yellow? woke people cancelled deswind cant have shit in skyhold
@halcyon breach cant believe this
dim basalt
justice for deswind
hazy flower
I think only the gingi team did a 24
Nobody did a 24 yet
But someone might do in finals
If anyone then its method/missed count/mandatory
boreal quartz
Nobody did a 24 yet
Was it 23 mb i forgot
void bay
Was it 23 mb i forgot
Phillip please don't lie
boreal quartz
Phillip please don't lie
It was over 18 that's what matters
void bay
It was over 18 that's what matters
🤣
dire hinge
halcyon breach
dire hinge
The colors were too bright for the haters to gaze upon him, so he removed it
Deswind is always welcome back in yellow 🥰♥️ they’re the best
Deswind Owns
olive nest
boreal quartz
<:dracthyr_sweat:1002678399090835517>
No diddy
floral sierra
is crafting gear for ilvl meta rn?
astral yarrow
what else would you craft gear for?
floral sierra
but then i cant show off my cool crafted gear that i got by tipping 10k
no one will believe me
astral yarrow
but if its worse ilvl, you can just send me the gold
floral sierra
i mean u can craft me gear for free though, ur name will be visible every time someone inspects my gear
free clout
astral yarrow
clout doesnt pay the bills though
floral sierra
well thats true, but giving back to the community assuming u provide the reagents aswell sure does make the world a better place
astral yarrow
i just want number go up
floral sierra
just remember and visualize how many times someone bricked ur m+ key, or wiped the whole raid. It wasnt their fault, it was the fact that they couldnt afford to tip 10k to get crafted gear
astral yarrow
i reckon they wiped the pull because they are dumdums
shell sierra
Can I ask a noob question? Returned to WoW very recently.
olive nest
Can I ask a noob question? Returned to WoW very recently.
Shoot
shell sierra
Is arms worth anything in m+ lately? Saw it's the second worst spec in the DPS tier list and it also feels singificantly weaker to me since I played last time.
olive nest
Tier lists are dog
Arms can do good overall damage
Arms just falls behind fury’s ST
That’s why most just play fury
shell sierra
Tier lists are dog
Usually my opinion too, I am just not sure what I should think about current arms.
Fair enough
olive nest
Get the 4pc
shell sierra
I kinda like that we play with skullsplitter again, gives arms kind of a DoT spec feel.
shell sierra
Get the 4pc
On it. What's the best way to get tier set pieces? M+ or delves? Outside from raiding ofc.
dim basalt
M+ prob
shell sierra
Aight
olive nest
Aight
Yeah just spam M+ dungeons that drop a tier slot item and then go catalyze it
Can also try to sneak into a heroic first 6 or something
Could get lucky
shell sierra
Oh catalyzing is still a thing in TWW?
olive nest
Yes it is
minor gust
you should have plenty of cata charges to full send tier as soon as you get items to cata
shell sierra
Cool
Also, is slayer arms anything worth in m+? Saw a build for it but nobody seems to suggest it as it's not supposed to be rly good at anything.
slow saddle
No
shell sierra
Figured
slow saddle
Focus col arms or slayer fury
slow saddle
Though heavily dpends on keys u wanna run
But playin slayer not being fury will feel bad
shell sierra
Sounds like slayer mostly ints unless very few niche situations.
dim basalt
In M+ kinda yeah
slow saddle
In fury it fucks, as arms it sucks
shell sierra
Yee
slow saddle
I mean
minor gust
so play whats fun
shell sierra
Yeah but that bar is very low anyway
minor gust
cool
slow saddle
But cleave + reap is fun😆
minor gust
who cares
you dont have to be a slave to meters everytime you play the game
you can chill sometimes too
shell sierra
I am not sure yet what I think of demolish tbh. It kinda doesn't feel strong enough to justify the lock
olive nest
Doesn’t demolish hit a single target for like 80m lmao
shell sierra
Also does any1 know if they will ever fix the deep wounds glyph to work on arms too?
minor gust
who knows prob not
shell sierra
Man I hope 🥲
shell sierra
Doesn’t demolish hit a single target for like 80m lmao
No clue, didn't have enough opportunities to look at it yet.
calm hollow
you dont have to be a slave to meters everytime you play the game
nah brother, you have to destroy everyone
calm hollow
i wouldnt mind if we even had an arms tier
dim basalt
S2 would have been great if they didnt nerf exe by 10% for no fucking reason
slow saddle
S2 would have been great if they didnt nerf exe by 10% for no fucking reason
Factoids
lofty pulsar
Damn man finding a mythic raiding guild as arms is difficult
Trying to get from an AOTC guild to mythic is hard as it is with no mythic logs lol
May have to swap to fury just so I can join a mildly competitive guild.
dim basalt
Usually there are a lot of mediocre mythic guilds that take anyone because they lack people
And no guild should care about Arms / Fury tbh
Usually its expected you play the better spec tho
If you ever encounter a 3/8 or 4/8 guild that expects you to have any exp theyre delusional as fuck
dim basalt
^
jovial hare
sim guys
how do we want to sim m+? dslice? mdt?
dim basalt
sim guys
how do we want to sim m+? dslice? mdt?
patchwerk with more targets and lower time
dslice and mdt are not being maintained
jovial hare
patchwerk with more targets and lower time
lower time as in like 1:30 or like 3m
dim basalt
Whatever you see fitting tbh
jovial hare
oke, ty stjpa
dim basalt
Bunch of peeps here use 1 min
dim basalt
The result shouldnt change too much tho
sudden fox
We get avatar back
minor gust
sadly
slow saddle
Damn man finding a mythic raiding guild as arms is difficult
I mean yes
The way in is fury
Then change
Because unlike what these ppl think
4/8m guild care more than ce guilds
brisk bridge
Just saw a warrior do 8% of his damage with Heroic Tcking Sack of Terror, anyone know how is that possible?
olive nest
It procd a lot or his other button presses were bad and trinket carried
It’s usually around 3-5 for me
I haven’t had a high roll proc like that
Also mines only hero trac but minor difference
brisk bridge
Both of our damage and rotations were very close with minor deviatons on RB and BT
I was using heroic screams
damn, should have gotten that screenie
Is it even possible to have such a disparity on RNG?
restive jay
I was messing around with the warrior class tree and isn’t it a bit ass?
The entire capstone level is all required dps points
Can’t even talent utility
Arms still has to drop all of its single target to do aoe
Seems pretty doomed
slow saddle
Amount of dmg nodes are dumb t
slow saddle
I love how arms has such good boss dmg
To make up for lack of aoe
We top!!! From the bottom🥲
dim basalt
Tbh everyone saw that coming after raid testing
plain latch
finally sand bagging keep it up guys
dire hinge
im doing my part by playing remix and not pulling the numbers up 
slow saddle
Also not great fights for arms
Just another reason to buff us 8%
minor gust
We got our 8% now we aren't complete dog trash compared to every other spec
You ain't getting another one
slender sonnet
is arms back yet
olive nest
12.0 waiting room
slender sonnet
Only way, is up from here
so real
slow saddle
Also even if midnight we are at same spot dmg wise. It does seem way better
Dno why they forced avatar back
Seems to be only coz pvp crybabies
slender sonnet
what's changing in midnight
slender sonnet
damn I didnt know blizz was chill like that
slow saddle
So theres hope
slender sonnet
jugg is xe right
void bay
We top!!! From the bottom🥲
slender sonnet
ah yeah
slow saddle
But in reality. Arms isnt horrid atm. I just dislike slayer arms
Coz jugger is 15 stacks? And as fury is 5
slender sonnet
I dont like colossus arms idk
if slayer was better in keys as arms I'd play it way more
slow saddle
I dont like colossus arms idk
Collosus is coz cd misalignment + sweep stacks
minor gust
We are dead last in boss // overall dmg
brother theres always going to be something last when you put it in a list
doesnt mean its not balanced
also looking at overall is a meme even if Blizzard uses it to tune
tells you basically nothing useful
because theres like 20 different factors causing it than just raw numbers
slow saddle
M8
When u suck at both boss dmg and aoe
U aint in a great spot
And yes ofc theres loads of reasons
minor gust
you need to relax your not getting another buff
cuz you dont need it
better luck next tier
slow saddle
yeah totally arms ST needs a buff
Shows me it does
minor gust
void bay
We are supposed to have same st
Yeah but Fury players tend to be the giga chads and arms is like the guys that want to pretend to be a medeival armsman
halcyon valve
No spec should be a pvp spec because pvp sucks
spiral coral
Tbh this season is so fucking long I figured I might as well dabble in it
Arms owns
And yeah, pvp sucks
quasi comet
How far behind in damage is arms slayer compared to fury in mythic plus?
spiral coral
A metric fuck load
Nah, not really. But, I mean out of the four (Col/Thane/Slayers) it’s the worst in m+.
Just play Col
And save CDs/temp pot for boss fights and you’ll be fine
If you’re playing Arms m+
And don’t run sks
I personally still enjoy the play of Col more than any other spec
But just play fury cause that shit destroys meters
quasi comet
yeah arms is my love no spec is like it for me but holy shit this season does it feel so bad in both aoe and single, especially when fury just drools on the keyboard for double arms damage
quasi comet
ive been playing fury just wanted any excuse to flip back to arms lol
spiral coral
I come back cause I enjoy the sequence of events in the rotation
Very check list oriented and I like it, rather fury is just…
minor gust
ive been playing fury just wanted any excuse to flip back to arms lol
just play it to play it. You dont need to always be a slave to the meters. No spec is bad enough that you cant do the content with it.
quasi comet
imma play warrior is all I know
dire hinge
Just play what you like and learn it deeply. You can out perform top specs if you actually know how to use a “bad” spec
jovial hare
Just play what you like and learn it deeply. You can out perform top specs if yo...
there's nothing like dumpstering a fotm arc mage on your favorite spec youve been playing for years
balmy kindle
The problem with fury now is the insane borrowed power from the tier set 
slow saddle
Mby its just me
but after turbo boost is realeased
so should also have unlimited sparks to craftr
slow saddle
Fury slayer is extremely easy to learn
i mean
Fury played very well atm
is actually not so easy
U actually have to somewhat plan bladestorms ^_^
warped ether
In higher keys the mobs survive 2 bs easily and with the cd reduction you can have bs up every 30 sec or so I feel like
slow saddle
yes
some packs
theres small things that actually make u game a bit
not just mindlessly clicking cds
its not hard rly though, but if u wanna super min max, theres a bit of changes u can do
😛
which makes it a BIT more fun
warped ether
Idk man it almost feels like you have no cds as fury imo
They are up all the time
The amount of cd reduction is crazy
balmy kindle
You can potentially lose damage tho if you mess up on bladestorm, by it's not much
BS becomes like 20-30 s cd atm
slow saddle
yeah exactly my pont
maxximizing dmg isnt that easy as fury now
but u can deffo just Bladestorm once per pack and just hold it everytime
and do good // great dmg
quaint otter
so should also have unlimited sparks to craftr
Turbo didnt uncap sparks but there is big limit this late in season
slow saddle
Turbo didnt uncap sparks but there is big limit this late in season
Should
gentle frigate
Haven’t played in a few months. Its arms still cooked?
quaint otter
Haven’t played in a few months. Its arms still cooked?
yeah not great
gentle frigate
Damn so fury is still better
warped spade
Haven’t played in a few months. Its arms still cooked?
One could say it is burnt to a crisp
slow saddle
Damn so fury is still better
Tbh by a mile in all content. Though in m+ u can deffo essily arms
U just do less st
void bay
Damn so fury is still better
gaunt owl
i did my part inflating the ranks <:Armsowns:857748787710787605>
its your fault if its not the right color
gaunt owl
thats the issue too
if you got 10 parse
to compare yourself too
its cooked
thats why parsing culture is toxic and should be abolished
sharp wyvern
was the reclear so i got to meme as arms
we are holding dmg so much i just nerfed myself and played arms 
more enhanced shamans have killed dimensius than arms warrs
sharp wyvern
not even on farm?
gaunt owl
no because they dont care
its just a stupid ass colored numbers
you only compete about greedy people
the kind of guy that will boast about going fast on the highway
and crash on the first curb
midnight mural
99% of the strong guild dont public logs
99% tho? Damn. So basically none of the top 100 guilds public log?
gaunt owl
99% tho? Damn. So basically none of the top 100 guilds public log? <:keks:936231...
if they do its just to showboat and the one that do arent worth your time
latent moss
parsing is giga cringe
minor gust
parsing is fun as long as you dont take it to seriously and tie your entire personality and ego around it
spiral coral
You mean it’s not cool to hit a 100 and put it on your discord profile and talk about it for two years
steel furnace
olive nest
Parsing only matters when you need to find a guild to call home
You gotta be a degenerate parse guy until you find that
It is what it is
blissful mica
Just play what you like and learn it deeply. You can out perform top specs if yo...
Thank god balancing got to this point
I almost had a rank 1 where i was behind a 33 Warlock on Sludgefist
I feel like besides Arms, Outlaw and Frost, most of the game is in a pretty balanced state
dire hinge
i was far worse even before that, balance wasn't really something that was strived for
crystal nexus
quick question, does thunderclap apply rend to targets that don't already have it or is it just random on which targets it applies it to?
slow saddle
Rando
olive nest
i did my part inflating the ranks <:Armsowns:857748787710787605>
I’ll join soon gotta wait until trial is over and reclears are comfy
Can’t wait
latent moss
Bleeds smart apply there
i think assas indiscriminate carnage smart applies
idk i played the spec and it always seemed like it did but i never actually tested
slow saddle
Next week.... we start saladbar prog😅
upbeat pelican
Next week.... we start saladbar prog😅
Such a fun boss! Protip: go towards the center of platform to do the 3 spirit combo in p1. Makes life much easier as melee
slow saddle
Such a fun boss! Protip: go towards the center of platform to do the 3 spirit co...
I shall try
olive nest
I just rotate the boss as I need to in order to still press globals and also face the next spirit in order
I personally found S key + strafe + camera adjust was the best way for me
Just make sure you’re back to the side your team wants you to bait beams away from your Conquer position
upbeat pelican
at this point the damage is quite irrelevant. just do what keeps you alive :)
last saddle
Such a fun boss! Protip: go towards the center of platform to do the 3 spirit co...
dont do this, stay on boss and rotate around him so u can keep dpsing
oh brewjj alreeady said it
upbeat pelican
dont do this, stay on boss and rotate around him so u can keep dpsing
i am doing it and will
last saddle
u also want to follow boss with claws and drop them on raid so u dont lose uptime
last saddle
thats a leviathan-hydra signature
i feel like im the only melee that plants with them
last saddle
for a while i moved with it but i killed noley one time
the other like 20 times noley died during claws it wasnt my fault though
stupid priests standing still to cast
upbeat pelican
dont do this, stay on boss and rotate around him so u can keep dpsing
the dps loss is minimal and it helps me stay alive
olive nest
I move out some but not much I just make sure it drops in a nice spot away from center and not on top of someone else
last saddle
yea i mostly focus on it not touching middle/where we're gonna run in on p2 (if its the first set of claws)
but if i see a dk i try to make sure to hit him with it
upbeat pelican
but if i see a dk i try to make sure to hit him with it
you are wasting brainpower doing it. those guys are immortal and ummovable :)
upbeat pelican
i'm a DK :D
upbeat pelican
our dk gets hit by 2 beams on average a pull 😭
what beams? 🤷♂️
last saddle
beamsiege
upbeat pelican
that was a meme clother :P
last saddle
he does get hit by ghosts not looking at
but weirdly it seems to be mostly ranged who mess that up for us
upbeat pelican
he should start running a bit towards the center before them
last saddle
DKs can do that bc they are a ranged class
upbeat pelican
well, UH is. frost not so much
last saddle
frostworms fury
upbeat pelican
but it's like 3 globals max and we don't have CDs up at that point
olive nest
dim basalt
the dps loss is minimal and it helps me stay alive
7 seconds of downtime surely is a small loss
It is bad advice, no point to discuss that
Just pay attention to the first two spawns and the third plays itself, it really ain't that deep
minor gust
The spirits on NK is not difficult. It's not something you should need to stop DPS to do. If you're struggling with it genuinely go do ?? Kyvezza over and over again till you got it down while maintaining a rotation.
It's the same mechanic
upbeat pelican
It is bad advice, no point to discuss that
Doing a blanket statement like that is kinda moot. People find different mechanics harder or easier for them for many different reasons. And still they can be cabable of mythic raiding. Just shared my experience and a way how one can make it easier. At this point of the season damage is really not an issue, doing the mechanics right is. No real harm happens if you step out for a bit outside CDs
sleek crow
are you supposed to thunderclapping on cd on large packs to make sure its applied to everyone?
minor gust
if the mobs are gonna live long enough you should be making sure everything has rend on it But still Prio Cleave > MS then you can weave TCs or OPs
sleek crow
ah thanks
jovial hare
finally
i can nap
my guildies finally pressured me into logging on retail often enough to actually get ksl lmao
urban citrus
does executioner's precision work better with slayer?
im trying to do an execute build but im not sure i got it right
wind hatch
does executioner's precision work better with slayer?
Absolutely
urban citrus
i still went for battlelord too since it feels too good not to play without
im on remix so damage is not a big deal for me, damage will come on its own
im just looking for the most fluid rotation
thick kelp
doesnt exist
urban citrus
why not?
latent moss
no such thing as fluid rotation for arms
urban citrus
i kinda wish there was a button to just instantly spend all your rage
i keep overcapping on rage and i cant do anything about it
tall socket
Make demolish consume half your available rage to increase its damage even more
olive nest
minor gust
Poor guys realize rage is cosmetic for arms
halcyon valve
Rage only matters if youre running out
slow saddle
so
silly Question
the wowhead m+ build
is the universal one we use?
i just saw him taking Cleave over arterial bleed
i thought we ran that
( im just memeing as arms to have a bit of fun, but prefer to be the "best" i can be 😄
minor gust
Indeed a silly question
You can run wowhead and do just fine there's only a couple changes people like and that's arterial over cleave and no sks
But it really doesn't matter both builds are fine
minor gust
Of course why wouldn't it be
slow saddle
well i meant more ideal 😛
but ok
"just" a 17 key but id prefer to be somewhat optimized
slow saddle
ok thank you
minor gust
Art will do more for mass AOE and ST cleave will do better at smaller more consistent pulls