We're surely getting reworked in midnight 
#arms
arctic compass
void bay
We're surely getting reworked in midnight <:copium:839076283467431956>
They changed "arms" to "arm" as not everyone has 2 arms and that is ableist. And you can only carry 1 handed weapons now. And you get - 20% damage.
cedar wharf
At what point do we decide to lock the discord?
median scroll
high field
buff warrior
void bay
weak rain
buff arms warrior
slow saddle
buff arms warrior
facts
slow saddle
Its soulbinder
arctic compass
300 parses LMAO 🤣
glacial rapids
At what point do we decide to lock the discord?
This is the act of cowards not warriors. Zugzug, unga bunga... We fight on.
slow saddle
300 soulbinder
unborn wraith
🙏 for buff this week
glacial rapids
🙏 for buff this week
Remix is next week. Why would they bother with tuning? But I'll pray with you brother...🙏
fossil thistle
.5 is generally a larger tuning patch
stable fiber
arms probably does get buffed on the .5 patch
misty bridge
spiral coral
Another 8% surely
weak rain
Another 8% surely
8%, but fury gets cleaved with 8% too, so we stay the same on warrior food chain
quick badge
Buff execute by 20% and nerf slam by 20% so it evens out 
shadow ibex
This spec kinda sucks
glacial rapids
This spec kinda sucks
astral yarrow
small grail
Are dungeon slice sims accurate for arms?
dim basalt
Are dungeon slice sims accurate for arms?
Not really
Just do patchwork with 5 or 8 targets and adjust combat time
small grail
Heard tyty
shadow ibex
https://tenor.com/view/my-god-youre-exhausting-tim-allen-last-man-standing-gif-1...
Arms is great im having fun ahh
arctic compass
Was there a time (talking about more recent history so like in last 2-3 expansions) when arms was much better than fury? Just curious 🤔
small grail
RIGHT HERE RIGHT NOW BAYBEEEE
thick kelp
Another jpg victim @latent moss
latent moss
Was there a time (talking about more recent history so like in last 2-3 expansio...
shadowlands season 2
boreal quartz
Was there a time (talking about more recent history so like in last 2-3 expansio...
SLS2 DFS4
Some bosses intermittedly always
Df s2 you could rlly play both on the endbosses
wide needle
Any wa pack in particular you fellows using? Rly not tracking too much I guess besides rend and devestate stacks
fresh spire
I only use a rend tracker and execute sd ping one
shadow ibex
Was there a time (talking about more recent history so like in last 2-3 expansio...
Id say more often than not they are both equally mediocre since bfa
S1 tww and s2 sl are the exceptions to the rule really
halcyon valve
Arms is great im having fun ahh
Arms is fine
smoky kayak
Was there a time (talking about more recent history so like in last 2-3 expansio...
Several times yes, including last season lol
slow saddle
Last season? Wasnt fury better in raid?
dim basalt
Last season? Wasnt fury better in raid?
In terms of dps they were kinda equal which makes fury better due to tankiness yeah
But Arms was straight up better in keys
Original question didnt specify which content
slow saddle
Yes arms was better in keys
minor gust
Several times yes, including last season lol
I meannnn both were pretty equal last season
smoky kayak
they were both pretty bad, but Arms was def ahead
devout pewter
Waiting for that day where we're unbeatable at the top for a whole season...
As it should be, if they don't want to give us more for the group.
jovial hare
give arms dg so warrior can also feel the pain of calling for something not to be rooted just for it to get rooted anyways and make you wonder why you even bind death grip on araz
radiant lion
can't wait to see the rework!! 
candid pecan
we'll have an additional column on the hero talents right? surely they wont forget to add the tier set bonuses from current season
minor gust
3 more days till disappointment
loud fjord
minor gust
Disappointment doesn't leave when it comes to arms design
dim basalt
We manifested it so deeply that it will always be a part of us
minor gust
I can't wait in 3 days to see Jugg unchanged
tranquil oar
after 3 days i will be so happy after the stream that i will wake up with a wood out of happiness that i can play "the good old rend arms"
minor gust
I think the stream is a day before alpha so they can get our hopes up before crushing it the next day
fossil thistle
arms probably does get buffed on the .5 patch
But which .5?
13.2.5? 😌😌
teal fjord
This spec kinda sucks
have you tried pressing execute?
mortal niche
have you tried pressing execute?
rage.jpg
fossil thistle
Smh people playing arms only using one arm instead of both 🙂↔️🙂↔️🙂↔️
shadow ibex
kaching
rare kite
i don't think there will be any class tuning at all this season ngl
anymore* (in case people are being pedantic)
halcyon valve
Increase rend dmg by 12% imho
spiral coral
anymore* (in case people are being pedantic)
THESE PEDANTIC ASS GAMERS
shadow ibex
shadowlands tuning note
unkempt wren
"Slam damage increase 10%, rage cost increased by 20"
shadow ibex
wtb 50% rage cost talent
sacred zodiac
true make the rage bar even more cosmetic
shadow ibex
50% increase
sacred zodiac
rage inflation
shadow ibex
make SoS talent for everything
rare kite
is arms back?
no. ask again in a few days when alpha comes out
surely the most insane rework of all time
nova marsh
rare kite
at some point they will give a bluepost that doesn't say "we're happy with warrior"
nova marsh
"We're not happy with warrior" (It's a post for classic)
shadow ibex
i might be overdosing
atp ill settle for the talents we havent taken in 2expacs to get looked at
rare kite
atp ill settle for the talents we havent taken in 2expacs to get looked at
it's sad that we would be happy with that
we're so doomed
shadow ibex
lmao
at the very least can we not have storm of steel and onslaught and dance of death etc pretty please
rare kite
what talent can we split in half next tho? bloodletting maybe. 1 part "if you have rend, mortal strike inflicts erend on targets below 35%" and the other "deep wounds,rend and troars bleed effects lasts 6 seconds longer have a 5% increased critical strike chance"
shadow ibex
cut bloodletting in half and put one of them where bloodborne is ofc
balmy kindle
Remove fatality and replace it with smth instead
minor gust
would be hilarious if they split another talent in half again
minor gust
bloodborne is next up
split iftk in half and put the extra bit for being in execute as an extra talent underneath it
shadow ibex
blunt instrument capstone and iftk is empower node under it
grizzled hare
When the raid lead asks you to go Fury
warped ether
Only 3 more 16s left for Resi 16
I can almost smell it
It will prolly only take me 55 h in the lfg
To be invited
Then asked if wrong spec or
Then get kicked
Ah the joy
scenic ravine
Hello all. I just read the wowhead guide and have few questions about cooldowns. It say to use avatar and champions spear with colossus smash. How long is ok to delay those cooldowns to alighn with colossus smash? Like up to 10s?
Also why use bladestorm with 2x execute precision?
tranquil oar
my fellow arms enjoyers i got my badge of virginity
slow saddle
my fellow arms enjoyers i got my badge of virginity
❤️
cedar wharf
so whats the best Fight Style to sim Arms in m+?
void bay
Karate style
cedar wharf
Monk server is that way 👉
tranquil oar
oh sorry i am bad with that technology
weak rain
so whats the best Fight Style to sim Arms in m+?
To spec furry
cedar wharf
To spec furry <:keks:936231610850897992>
i just wanna know the answer
boreal quartz
5t5min usually
latent moss
<:sadge:820202363359854633> i just wanna know the answer
idk try 8t30s 5t3min 1t3min or something
to try and simulate packs
void bay
https://tenor.com/view/joey-diaz-karate-combo-gif-4149916635074014312
doxxed again 🙁
slow saddle
Sim st extrapolate trinkets🤣
fossil thistle
my fellow arms enjoyers i got my badge of virginity
Shout to my friend who said “gambit and eco dome are the hardest keys this season”
and he plays a hunter
grave mulch
BM hunter im guessing
grave mulch
fossil thistle
I think HoA was before nerf , just due to mob count
But I don’t think any stand out as particularly difficult 🤔
I’ve only done 13s though as i dont push
grave mulch
i hope BM hunter just gets nerfed to the ground next xpac
Idk why they are the most cocky players
spiral coral
Idk why they are the most cocky players
Topping details pressing 2 buttons does something to the ego
arctic compass
I fkn hate hunter class xD not just now, from the beginning and i started in TBC 
slow saddle
Mm is also not bad
glacial rapids
No joke. BM hunter discord thinks they deserve to always have high damage because they don't offer any utility... you know like frost trap, tar trap, explosive trap, tranq, immunity, fd, binding shot, stuns, misdirect...
weak rain
Dobby tier class, dw
void bay
Mm is also not bad
I mean they arent high keys, and they arent 99 or 100s, but huawhahwhahauahah!
teal fossil
I mean they arent high keys, and they arent 99 or 100s, but huawhahwhahauahah!
I’m not trying to argue whether MM is good but showing key parses (especially it’s compared to your own spec) doesn’t mean anything
void bay
I’m not trying to argue whether MM is good but showing key parses (especially it...
it was more "im crap and even I can do ok on hunter", nothing more than that
teal fossil
Also still it’s key parses
Next to ilevel parses in “the most irrelevant metric award”
grave mulch
yo wtf
spiral coral
I mean they arent high keys, and they arent 99 or 100s, but huawhahwhahauahah!
This is disgusting
Posting Hunter m+ parses that aren’t even 99s or 100s
boreal remnant
No joke. BM hunter discord thinks they deserve to always have high damage becau...
meld on like a 20s cd
spiral coral
I can respect super high level hunters like Banshers
They’re always doing some cool tech and really leading the group
spiral coral
Probably not that easy to get them considering how bloated the player base is for that spec
Could probably hop on SV and get 99s not even doing the rotation right solely due to there’s only like two SVs left
I should fuck around and get some 100s on arms while no one’s playing
zealous echo
Yeah when the easiest safest spec is also the best spec it kinda feels bad for everyone else. Low effort high reward (Talking about BM)
My design philosophy would be that simple+safe specs should be middle of the pack consistent, but not the best or worst. While high effort high risk specs would have a higher overall potential
halcyon valve
I should fuck around and get some 100s on arms while no one’s playing
Heh, i got one of those
fossil thistle
halcyon valve
vault is tomorrow grandpa
dreamy valley
My design philosophy would be that simple+safe specs should be middle of the pac...
like sub or arcane? they are feeling gr8 rn
zealous echo
Yeah like that
dim basalt
Sub does insane damage with a rather low skill floor and ceiling tho
fossil thistle
vault is tomorrow grandpa
slow saddle
No joke. BM hunter discord thinks they deserve to always have high damage becau...
100% true saw some1 argue for 10-15% dmg advantage
slow saddle
Yeah like that
So every melee spec
devout pewter
vault is tomorrow grandpa
Vault is the day after tomorrow though!
fossil thistle
Isn’t vault next week?
shadow ibex
Vault was s1 df
devout pewter
Nah, was like 20 years ago. I remember getting that PvP sword from it
minor gust
2 more days
shadow ibex
Nah, was like 20 years ago. I remember getting that PvP sword from it
Damn was msv 20 years already
Garajel was mad over tuned
minor gust
I mean friday night(for euw) should be tunning for 11.2.5
The copium that there's gonna be anymore tuning this expansion is more wild than the copium that Jugg is gonna get changed next expansion
weak rain
tomorrow glorius arms rework for midnight will be revealed
minor gust
2 days
minor gust
Ion personally ruined arms
halcyon valve
i bet ion doesnt even know arms exists because nobody told him about it
thick kelp
Arms warrior is dying and fury warrior is the reason
shadow ibex
Wrong
Warrior is dying and prot is the reason
Every new prot dps talent could have been a dps dps talent
tranquil oar
Shout to my friend who said “gambit and eco dome are the hardest keys this seaso...
its ok he is a hunter after all ! 😄
shadow ibex
Let's go tuning
zealous flume
why is arms so ass on nexus mythic when it "looks" like it should be strong ish? 2 target cleave and execute with damage amp potentially
thick kelp
why is arms so ass on nexus mythic when it "looks" like it should be strong ish?...
Cuz 2t is minor part of fight
candid pecan
but then again if Jugg was better (not RNG) I would play Arms on mythic Nexus 
minor gust
Let's go tuning
We're not low enough on the warcraft logs stat page to warrant tuning if they even do any
Need more sandbagging
quick badge
I'm on it
shadow ibex
We're not low enough on the warcraft logs stat page to warrant tuning if they ev...
300 parses
Wouldn't put it past blizzard to be too stupid to notice such a thing tbh
3 saladbar arms parses last I checked. Two target and lots of ST should be perfect niche right right right?
minor gust
The team who decides what needs tuning has the brain capacity of a pile of bricks
They legit look at the pretty warcraft logs stats bars and tune based off that
It's disgusting
arctic compass
There's no hope, reroll hunter 
shadow ibex
They legit look at the pretty warcraft logs stats bars and tune based off that
Pretty comfy job
Do nothing. 0 investigation into actual problem plaguing a class
fossil thistle
Imagine if juggernaut didn’t exist and we just got condemn again with a minor built in damage amp
😌 I feel my fingers cramping already
shadow ibex
Fix dance of death?
Nahhhhhhh
Spiteful? What's that? Take 8% aura best balanced expansion in the history of expansions.
vast helm
WE GOOD?
fossil thistle
Make us mandatory 🥵
minor gust
Day 1 alpha notes will set the tone for arms in midnight obviously!
glacial rapids
spiral coral
Tf is this arms mage migration
boreal quartz
i play both
thick kelp
Costs 2k max to craft 675's
boreal quartz
only based specs for me
thick kelp
Imagine making WA's
boreal quartz
fire arms windwalk
thick kelp
coould not be me
boreal quartz
Imagine making WA's
bro u legit asked me to remake the clickz ones
b4 u went pvp setup
💀
reef glade
why is arms so ass on nexus mythic when it "looks" like it should be strong ish?...
And there’s not really an execute damage amp there’s a damage amp on a target that goes from like 90% to like 20% idk how low it actually gets
boreal quartz
i do like pvp setup in theory
but you need to ditch plater or work a LOT on it
which i cba
spiral coral
fire arms windwalk
frost arms sv
boreal quartz
i do like sv
boreal quartz
and customized better blizz plates
yee
fossil thistle
<@1054630531452637226>
boreal quartz
I enjoy fire but playing it in m+ is disgusting
idk man comboost
dim basalt
sv is goated
shadow ibex
And there’s not really an execute damage amp there’s a damage amp on a target th...
Our talent tree doesn't have power creep
Big problem big problem
fossil thistle
Yea it’s wild my warlock with 10 less ilvl and no embellishments only does ~600k less dps
Blizzard saw warriors and were like “nah not this time”
vast surge
Also bet the warlock doesn’t have to wait for the planets to align before they go reasonable damage
Fucking Demolish being rooted sucks ass
thick kelp
Oly
shadow ibex
is this remix shit
shadow ibex
Also bet the warlock doesn’t have to wait for the planets to align before they g...
12 gcd set up
@minor gust fury neck x2 weeks in a row
game sux
minor gust
we fucking are saving since starting saladbar
because we are fucking awful this tier
and reclear on fract and soul was very very special needs
shadow ibex
we are 3 night so i guess its really no reason not to reclear this tier
esp since yea can skip soul
we killed soul i looted boots from vault next week
how i sleep
minor gust
we have continued to get worse as a raid team every tier I think we spent equal time rekilling fract on our 2nd kill than we did progging
minor gust
we killed soul i looted boots from vault next week
I still got champion boots but thats mostly my fault im to lazy to do heroic
been raid logging so much this tier
cuz im so over it
rare kite
cuz im so over it
that's been all raids this expansion for me ngl
shadow ibex
yea i felt guilty about not feeling vault but then realized no one else was
shadow ibex
that's been all raids this expansion for me ngl
everything but queen court has been ass as an arms enjoyer
minor gust
Gally was fun for arms if your raid milked the cast long enough to always line up BS
minor gust
F
shadow ibex
its w/e i hated that tier
got my good mugs parse and was content with having a good parse for only fun arms boss
shadow ibex
WHAAAAA
we started prog stopping then learned fast with raid buff that we could just push
shadow ibex
lowkey we kinda forced it on the raid leaders like yo we are pumping
plz
no hold
at least one more month of fury jail as we finish salad and work on dimmy
minor gust
whats your saladbar %
shadow ibex
i assume dimmy takes like 3 weeks i havent looked
minor gust
we just started getting more frequent intermissions with almost everyone alive
minor gust
bunch of beam noobs
shadow ibex
idk if ours are baited bad but it seems insanely deadly
minor gust
ive died to a beam maybe 2-3 times and we got some ppl who are long in the double digits right now
shadow ibex
and that something is baited wrong
rare kite
everything but queen court has been ass as an arms enjoyer
queens court had too little freedom for me to enjoy the fight. hate fights where i have to position in an exact way the entire fight
shadow ibex
i was a webber
despite that i'd rather do queen court 8/8 times a tier
just put different hats on them
lofty pulsar
Discord mod just forgot to post the Arms warrior buff right? Right?
Surely it’s not in the same state on single target
minor gust
your not getting arms buffs
let go of that delusion
and focus on the real delusion and that is alpha rework in 2 days
void bay
your not getting arms buffs
teal fossil
and focus on the real delusion and that is alpha rework in 2 days
wait why 2 days
minor gust
alpha release in 2 days silly
teal fossil
didnt know
shadow ibex
not speed/10
stable fiber
tankiest warrior
minor gust
shadow ibex
champion
inland vortex
I was looking at logs for other warriors and I was curious, during Manaforge Omega on Nexus King all top warriors are specifically targeting Nexus king instead of Voidwing during this window. The specific instance for reference is after you leave the platforms going back to the boss, 1 minute window after platforms.
heavy patio
are you talking about before you have dragon burn phase?
when voidwing is in execute window
inland vortex
Found my own answer after digging for awhile. Come to find out Nexus King doesn't have his damage reduction debuff during a specific period so people are swapping and targeting to him.
balmy kindle
and focus on the real delusion and that is alpha rework in 2 days
doctor I need 900mg of copium thanks
celest forge
<:copium:839076283467431956> doctor I need 900mg of copium thanks
Don't worry, you can always look like a hero when you play arms because everyone who's good at warrior plays fury now!
tranquil oar
6h till disappointment
void bay
Don't worry, you can always look like a hero when you play arms because everyone...
I'm terrible at Fury but I still play it over Arms!
balmy kindle
Don't worry, you can always look like a hero when you play arms because everyone...
or unsub
grave mulch
<:Arms:592471950278787080> or unsub <:bedge:882323848844963860>
Arms is life
balmy kindle
Perks of playing arms
Ps: blizz please buff tq
rare kite
if it's not gone tomorrow it never will be
balmy kindle
Nice rings 
fresh spire
welcome to my ring shop
Devout big if arms main
balmy kindle
Can't go wrong with devout if arms main, unless your crit is nearing DR, either way you legit got the 2 bis from m+
fresh spire
vast surge
Erm for some reason spiteful serenity is simmimg 2.6% higher than anger management on dungeon slice for colossus build
Any reason that would the case?
halcyon valve
Because the meme is alive
(Its because you get extended haste / wb uptime during your thunderous roars, and bleeds are very big)
vast surge
Maybe I’ll give it a try in a dungeon
halcyon valve
(And pulls in dungeon slice sims align very well for the static 45s cooldown timers)
vast surge
Guess it’ll probably make CD usage less flexible in dungeons without AM
halcyon valve
(Do sim patchwerk 5/8 targets to compare to uninterrupted aoe)
shadow ibex
Its because dungeon slice is dumb
weak wave
Is there a way to sim which flask is the best for my setup?
vast surge
I think you need to do an expert sim or you can do multiple simultaneous sims with each different type of flask
trim lintel
Is there a way to sim which flask is the best for my setup?
in simulation options u get a bunch of settings you can change
weak wave
ah thanks
balmy kindle
Erm for some reason spiteful serenity is simmimg 2.6% higher than anger manageme...
Time to give it a spin for memes
weary dagger
im
trim lintel
youre
spiral coral
Fucking starcraft 2 got a rework before Arms
outer forge
rip
thick kelp
85mins
devout pewter
I'm at work and constantly checking in on you guys because I'm just too hyped. 85 mins is a long ass time
My expectations are low, but I'm still giddy
sharp wyvern
last vault before my guild starts extending 
shadow ibex
we havent had any antennas drop all tier
ever
we finally got 2 last night after killing since like week 1
only like .5% upgrade for my fury set so i straight up passed on it. wouldnt know arms value cuz i never seen that sim
fresh spire
Guys channel your power
Make the arms spirit bomb of fixing jug and having a goated apex
thick kelp
thick kelp
https://tenor.com/view/genki-dama-spirit-bomb-goku-gif-12526925
Us watching this Alpha reveal
fresh spire
I need to make some gifs
latent moss
Us watching this Alpha reveal
thick kelp
thick kelp
Madox will always be brown in my heart ❤️
deep moth
MAGA - Make Arms Great Again
shadow ibex
cant wait to play the same raid spec and same m+ spec for 2 more years
gotta hand it to blizz tho. managed to make the specs awful in opposite content despite using mostly the same talents save rav/bs
that's honestly impressive.
fresh spire
fresh spire
24 more hours till we find out the fate of arms for the next 2 years
More like 2 hours
Surely this one
tranquil oar
more like rend apex
shadow ibex
it's gonna be a dark time in american history when the guy who voices bender passes away
fresh spire
Honest feeling is mortal strike
shadow ibex
Honest feeling is mortal strike
blizzard making it MS when theyve created a hero spec that doesn't use it on cooldown
fresh spire
And the 4 points will be. Mortalstrike damage/3 target ms/cone mortalstrike/mortal combo/
shadow ibex
And the 4 points will be. Mortalstrike damage/3 target ms/cone mortalstrike/mort...
i bet you $10 s1 will require buff stacking to make MS worth casting sub 35
and not just EP
fresh spire
shadow ibex
take the bet
fresh spire
Dance surely removed
shadow ibex
pretending not to see it
fresh spire
Alongside spiteful
shadow ibex
as i path my way down the tree to my apex
misty bridge
what if apex is so dog
shadow ibex
MS apex node with a hero tree about casting sudden death and overpower
misty bridge
and we can both run fatality and jugg
shadow ibex
would be very on brand for blizzard
tranquil oar
i bet its gonna be blamestorm applies rend to all targets it hits
fresh spire
Nah each hero tree got 3 new points to spend.
Wouldn't be supprised if colossus keeps 4p and slayer keeps 2p
fresh spire
i bet its gonna be blamestorm applies rend to all targets it hits
Surely sudden death thunder clap returns
Give colossus some value when it takes sd on St too
misty bridge
remove rend give cs a bleed
tranquil oar
remove rend give cs a bleed
how dare you demand reasonable stuff !
fresh spire
Awkward
tranquil oar
imagine making it to be able to use skills while in bladestorm
ultimate spin to win
tranquil oar
So we just removed ravager from the game
ravager is garbadge bladestorm is wotlk masterpiece
teal fossil
tranquil oar
ok tigers lets enjoy the stream
tranquil oar
i would love ravager gone
AMAN
shadow ibex
this deep dive is just gonna be a bunch of housing bullshit isnt it
i can feel it in my old bones
misty bridge
that and the prey mode
tranquil oar
nah guys surely its gonna be about arms rework right ?
north condor
i would love ravager gone
Hire this man
night niche
minor gust
More like 2 hours
Nah that's just the super personal heart to heart with Ion talk today. Tomorrow is alpha
tranquil oar
phahahaha so housing,dh
minor gust
Honest feeling is mortal strike
What it really should be is CS
fresh spire
awwh hell no
its going ot be one of them for sure
execute doesn't synergies with colossus well unless CM returns
MS has more room for enhancing gameplay while CS has room for making it a fun cooldown
minor gust
Doing MS or execute might lean in to much to one hero talent so CS is a perfect middle ground
But also so is slam
fresh spire
slam is also in fury
fresh spire
ms stacks up a slam buff making it hit 50% harder 20 times
tranquil oar
damn this expansion aggressive against alliance
fresh spire
dim basalt
New Eversong Woods looks so good tho
fresh spire
I can't wait to be disappointed tomorrow
be disappointed before that
shadow ibex
i hate elves man
tranquil oar
Scarlet POG
shadow ibex
dim basalt
Voidstorm looks like a zone you like in the beginning but start to hate quickly
shadow ibex
i cant get excited about stuff shown in previews because the stuff in the first season is so irrelevant to the rest of the plots
we hung out with earthen for like 17 minutes in tww
minor gust
be disappointed before that
Great now I'm already disappointed for tomorrow
fresh spire
Great now I'm already disappointed for tomorrow
hexed saddle
i was gonna tell u guys to behave but ur pretty normal most of the time
swift crown
Legs
shadow ibex
we get to watch dev power creep in real time
so excited to see how broken void DH is
dim basalt
The previews of the void dh spec are so shit ngl
shadow ibex
it must be so nice to have a spec being created today with all the knowledge of what makes a spec good/bad
cant wait for our turn
fresh spire
i was gonna tell u guys to behave but ur pretty normal most of the time
arms is always normal ill ahve you know
tranquil oar
wait so this is like improved wod ?
hexed saddle
though you may want to active slow mode in fury chat
prob will when it gets insane
fresh spire
when arms finally gets the love we deserve and all the fury andys flood back in here
dim basalt
That will be great /s
minor gust
Let's be honest fury Andy's ain't coming in here unless fury is doomed or arms is doomed and Baze is offering condolences
tranquil oar
ok guys all 13 of us need to ask in the Q&A about arms they might see us
dim basalt
dim basalt
Defensives seem to be pruned overall
smoky kayak
dim basalt
hmm
cerulean swan
bronze wharf
big
thick kelp
sharp wyvern
guys the rework was foretold
smoky kayak
I gotta cover the QA for 30m, but I'll answer any/all questions after that
sharp wyvern
am i not seeing juggernault in the arms tree ?
halcyon valve
we are so back
bronze wharf
be ready for some slamming lmao
tranquil oar
damn i might wake up with hard PP out of excitment for arms
halcyon valve
juggernaut removed 🎦
thick kelp
HOOOLY
dim basalt
SS rework huh
vapid goblet
ARE WE BACK?
tranquil oar
ARE WE BACK?
yes sir
halcyon valve
cant wait to never use this
snow adder
More focus and bleeds and less ''forced into execute class''! My dream is coming true
halcyon valve
but its cool we get something like that
bronze wharf
i wonder will they change the hero trees too
vapid goblet
More focus and bleeds and less ''forced into execute class''! My dream is coming...
are we feral druids now?
balmy kindle
Wall of text guys, anyone can tell me are we saved
vapid goblet
AM in the class tree
balmy kindle
please
vapid goblet
finnaly
balmy kindle
Does SS have a fucking ability cap againh
HOLY
tranquil oar
so guys if arms mastery is gonna be dps increase we gonna be crit mastery for HUGE BONKS
bronze wharf
Does SS have a fucking ability cap againh
we are new outlaws now 😎
nimble yoke
i assume its 12?
dim basalt
So we are gonna do a lot of bleed damage in ST huh
wary raft
Does SS have a fucking ability cap againh
does the choice node imply that colossus resets?
thick kelp
halcyon valve
this in the class tree owns
thick kelp
its a questionable choice node
wary raft
OH sorry wrong node
dim basalt
this in the class tree owns
Definitely gonna be clutch sometimes if we need to take it
tranquil oar
So we are gonna do a lot of bleed damage in ST huh
we make them bleed with execute
wary raft
uhh 2 to the left "broad strokes"
teal fossil
its a questionable choice node
Ya math question node lol
dim basalt
we make them bleed with execute
MS also with a talent
snow adder
Was kinda hoping for a Heroic strike comeback tho
thick kelp
OH sorry wrong node
CS is tied to AM in class tree still
but looks like sweep is going back to stack system
snow adder
Heroic strike replaces Slam or something kinda like Fury is gonna have with rampage and slam
bronze wharf
honestly i think class tree sucks actually
nimble yoke
collateral damage just got disintegrated right
river ridge
honestly i think class tree sucks actually
I think that new intervene talent is neat
thick kelp
halcyon valve
die by the sword / ignore pain choice node lmao
drowsy cobalt
No avatar for Arms or am i blind?
thick kelp
Correct
bronze wharf
im intersted in that one, or maybe i dont understand
thick kelp
Avatar is a choice node on fury
bronze wharf
thunder clap 5 targets but rend UNCAPPED ?
drowsy cobalt
I like the changes to Sweeping tho
tranquil oar
Avatar is a choice node on fury
only for sure ?
river ridge
So do we just have like CS as our CD?
halcyon valve
wait... colossus smash is gone?
halcyon valve
its just warbreaker now
river ridge
🤔🤔🤔
dim basalt
Kinda worried about our aoe damage tho
wary raft
bladestorm extends cs wtf thats so sick
nimble yoke
Rend big QOL change
whats the QOL?
wary raft
but surely that just means u cancelaura it
bronze wharf
whats the QOL?
not capped
thick kelp
whats the QOL?
Tooltip reads that it hits all targets
tranquil oar
sad part is cleave is 5 target capped
thick kelp
in front of you
thick kelp
sad part is cleave is 5 target capped
soft capped so np
river ridge
We have no idea what our mastery is changing to right?
opal swallow
not tied to deep wounds
thick kelp
we have deep wounds in spec tree now
wary raft
wait why is dbts and ignore pain a choice node whats our new personal
halcyon valve
FbV heals off rend now ig ok
river ridge
wait why is dbts and ignore pain a choice node whats our new personal
We may not get one.
thick kelp
etc
severe crag
Its all over boys
wary raft
no way we dont get one
drowsy cobalt
Hmm Bonegrinder Collateral and Fervor reworks looks nice
tranquil oar
We have no idea what our mastery is changing to right?
Arms has a new mastery that passively increases damage dealt without depending on Deep Wounds.
balmy kindle
sounds dank
bronze wharf
i wonder how will dreadnaught + improves sweeping strikes work
river ridge
no way we dont get one
Well WoW has needed a defensive prune for a hot second, so this may be a greater effort to reduce personal defensives.
nimble yoke
Its all over boys
this is so sad
misty bridge
We may not get one.
Def stance
bronze wharf
casually casting 8times dreadnaughts in 1 cd?
drowsy cobalt
i wonder how will dreadnaught + improves sweeping strikes work
probably same
halcyon valve
i wonder how will dreadnaught + improves sweeping strikes work
same as it is now
halcyon valve
improved sweep doesn't affect the target count
yep. "affects 6 additional abilities"
the equivalent of extending sweepings duration rn
bronze wharf
oh okay i understood it wrongly
halcyon valve
deep wounds gonna go crazy in execute
tranquil oar
Did all classes get this many talent changes?
arms impostor here
halcyon valve
it just stacks up
candid pecan
OKAY, finsihed key, let me read talent changes 
tranquil oar
Did all classes get this many talent changes?
minor kraken
does battlefield commander take Battle shout from 5% AP to 8%?
drowsy cobalt
How many abilities is sweeping baseline?
thick kelp
for yourself yes
drowsy cobalt
do we know?
thick kelp
How many abilities is sweeping baseline?
12 i think
halcyon valve
new collateral gets me thinking:
does this happen multiple times? or do you just get it once at the end of sweeping?
candid pecan
JUGG REMOVED SIUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
minor kraken
for yourself yes
u mean for battle shout
halcyon valve
like sweeping -> 3 single target -> hit a stacked cleave -> 3 single target -> hit a stacked cleave?
minor kraken
kind of meh would've been cool to just buff battle shout all together
halcyon valve
its weird thinking about arms without deep wounds
minor kraken
we should've got BL handed to us or something
thick kelp
its weird thinking about arms without deep wounds
we got deep and deeper wounds now
minor kraken
Woulda made the best raid buff even more op
nah man best raid buff is mark of the wild hands down
drowsy cobalt
I think cleave will be more frequent...maybe every third global and every other during colossus
minor gust
Bruh we don't need lust
polar portal
Am I seeing it wrong or does arms not have an offensive CD other than colossus smash and spear (from the class tree)?
thick kelp
Am I seeing it wrong or does arms not have an offensive CD other than colossus s...
Bladestorm
drowsy cobalt
There is 50% reduction of cleave CD on CS
minor kraken
Bruh we don't need lust
we do tbh, id rather drop battle shout for lust
thick kelp
and spear is a utility spell now
minor gust
We dont
thick kelp
pressumably
polar portal
it now extends CS
Oh
minor gust
That's all cope
thick kelp
which is too based
forest perch
Unless tier piece does something, wouldn't execute hit like a wet noodle in midnight?
thick kelp
Unless tier piece does something, wouldn't execute hit like a wet noodle in midn...
They will presumably balance it around not having Jugg
which means that
SD procs will fucking own
with all the bleed amps and bleeds tied to execute
drowsy cobalt
I like what they cooked with slam
balmy kindle
wew looks like good changes to the tree ? colo viable in raid ?
dim basalt
Perma SD procs during lust will feel so satisfying
fresh spire
arms owns
dim basalt
thick kelp
if they nail the apex talents
fresh spire
everything shit is gone, button bloat is gone
fresh spire
now they just need to make apex goated
dim basalt
Id love a talent calculator ngl
wary raft
it now extends CS
the wording implies to me that youll just let the first tick happen then cancelaura unless they made bladestorm go fuckin crazy damage wise
minor kraken
u guys are overhyping the hell out of it tbh
balmy kindle
Ok time to preorder midnight
thick kelp
the wording implies to me that youll just let the first tick happen then cancela...
I bet they will make it crank since its our 2nd dps cd
halcyon valve
theres some great stuff in the new warrior trees
minor kraken
i was hoping for more utility to get us into grps
fresh spire
no jug, no sks
thick kelp
i was hoping for more utility to get us into grps
Bro this is the first alpha build
drowsy cobalt
I hope they removed the SS half gcd
thick kelp
Theres gonna be more
dim basalt
We did get more utility
thick kelp
I hope they removed the SS half gcd
Nop
fresh spire
I hope they removed the SS half gcd
still there apparently
dim basalt
intim shout finally usable lol
misty bridge
so good so far
fresh spire
but its been changed to abilites used not duration
12 attacks, 30 seconds duration, 30 seconds cd
minor kraken
like I hope we get a talent that can make spear into a utility option like dudu's Ursol
tranquil oar
when are we gonna be able to play the alpha if we have the expansion pre ordered ?
thick kelp
Intim shout is uncapped btw
polar portal
If Bladestorm is back as Arms DPS CD I don't think Fury should have access to it tbh
minor kraken
why is spear a capstone
shadow ibex
im bout to
fresh spire
im bout to
bustttt
thick kelp
1.5
shadow ibex
lemme hit the pause on chat so i dont miss anything
minor gust
im bout to
Jugg gone
dim basalt
oh
fresh spire
arms tree owns
halcyon valve
what if these sweeping strikes changes make mastery much more important in dungeons?
like you dont need a lot of haste anymore, because you hit big
fresh spire
yeh tons of insane good shit
drowsy cobalt
Also is overpover buffing MS?
latent moss
Also is overpover buffing MS?
seems gone
shadow ibex
that cant go live right
minor kraken
i mean that AP portion
dont get excited
the ap portion is only for yourself
u dont buff the grp the extra 3%
which tilted me tbh
latent moss
why
latent moss
it would be a bad thing if it buffed everyone as well
minor gust
Yee
thick kelp
sca
shadow ibex
ok ok
latent moss
they would be tuned around it
shadow ibex
is sac the interpose?
latent moss
y
minor kraken
it would be a bad thing if it buffed everyone as well
why? battle shout is already shit tbh
shadow ibex
i never play pally
shadow ibex
the rally cry portion of master
minor kraken
dudu buff, shammy buff and int buff are way better
shadow ibex
is pretty great
minor gust
Bshout isn't shit
visual fern
battleshout is one of the best raid buffs
Bshout buff talent
dim basalt
bshout is insane lmao
shadow ibex
on so many mechs
green geode
How does sweeping strikes work now?
visual fern
Crazy
balmy kindle
seems ravager is gone along with jugg
hasty pumice
wpgg
minor gust
We prayed in long imgur
thick kelp
seems ravager is gone along with jugg
Ravager is prot only
minor gust
And our prayers were answered
polar portal
why tclap then
Slow
hasty pumice
balmy kindle
Ravager is prot only
yeah lol just realized, well bladestorm ftw
hasty pumice
GG @elder light ALL GG
thick kelp
Also the spear in class tree is a PURE utility node
it deals abit more dam than shockwave on the tooltip
polar portal
Wait until they give us a tier set that gives us crit damage while standing on spear
thick kelp
hmmge
plucky flicker
Is sweep reworked ?
plucky flicker
How many targets ?
balmy kindle
broad strokes
thick kelp
You have 12 stacks
shadow ibex
oh its just number of abilities
thick kelp
additional talent for 6 more stacks
thick kelp
CS can grant u 6 stacks on use
shadow ibex
thats nice
thick kelp
the stacks only get consumed if they actually hit a 2nd t arget
shadow ibex
saves globals
balmy kindle
no more wasting gcd pog
thick kelp
so u can pre pop it
shadow ibex
yea thats nice
thick kelp
its still half a gcd
drowsy cobalt
the stacks only get consumed if they actually hit a 2nd t arget
Thats huge
visual fern
the stacks only get consumed if they actually hit a 2nd t arget
25% bonus dam talent gonna cook
shadow ibex
why 15 rage on cast tho?
balmy kindle
yes sir take my $$ blizz
thick kelp
why 15 rage on cast tho?
We dont have warlords etc
plucky flicker
why 15 rage on cast tho?
ST
shadow ibex
i guess
thick kelp
and theres a talent that makes charging grant u attack speed
pearl wind
minor gust
Yeah slam will be a real ability that affects our kit
shadow ibex
🙁
minor gust
Not just filler
balmy kindle
seems like it
dim basalt
Soften Them Up 😩
thick kelp
Fatality is good
dim basalt
Fatality got reworked bud
thick kelp
yall just hate it cuz its undertuned
bronze wharf
it works differently
dim basalt
Did you even read anything
shadow ibex
no more ravager
dim basalt
crushing combo is weird to me, surely that should be under cleave no?
yeah its weird
shadow ibex
holy fuck thank god
balmy kindle
why the fuck do we still have Fatality's mark in the Arms talent tree
its changed, read alot better now
shadow ibex
yeah its weird
same w deepwound and bloodletting ig
dim basalt
Feel like we are gonna have a looot of burst
candid pecan
no martial prowess 🙂
thick kelp
Blademasters torment baked into CS btw
shadow ibex
so deepwound is now just a dot we have throughout the tree?
thick kelp
with a talent
bronze wharf
i wonder do we have mastery reworked or are there some issues with description? i mean mortal wounds talent and "Deep woounds" talent
shadow ibex
from a cpl sources
thick kelp
i wonder do we have mastery reworked or are there some issues with description? ...
afaik we have a new mastery on alpha
shadow ibex
yea old mast has to be gone
bronze wharf
big
balmy kindle
My prayers were answered - reworked deep wounds
shadow ibex
finishing blows that low in the tree
thick kelp
Deep wounds is execute based and mortal wounds are cleave + ms based
shadow ibex
i really hope rage is important
shadow ibex
oh the MS/cleave is only from crits
regal dragon
chat are we toast
shadow ibex
whereas any exe cast = deepwounds
empty sluice
theyre going to change mastery right? since DW is in talents
thick kelp
chat are we toast
we are so fucking back
thick kelp
theyre going to change mastery right? since DW is in talents
yes
minor gust
Bro just said we're toast as warrior gets the biggest rework possible
shadow ibex
The CS change is insane
fresh spire
opportunity strikes pls
its just flat damage
shadow ibex
*BS
fresh spire
basically same without DW requirement
balmy kindle
aoe rend, less bloat holy whats this
bronze wharf
also SD is now gonna be played in both hero talents