arms

[slow saddle]

Point is his suggestions are often well thought and balanced

And no a wholw community, can never agree. But what arms sorely lacks is directions

And juggernuts to die asap

[void bay]

Lore left to become a tree and GC runs a sex museum just off the strip in Vegas

[late quiver]

I don't know anything about Arms, but looking at wow analyzer for a buddy of mine - it's saying he should be using Cleave on Fractiulus.. is that right???

[vast helm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898720803586048/1404607648367775854/884dae019b604034a488bde11a71bd29.gif

[boreal quartz]

no

but why do you have that shit talented for ST

do you have a log of theirs

[teal fossil]

Wow analyzer has no knowledge of the fight itself

[shadow ibex]

MAJOR

[late quiver]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/kaVrQAMd9pC2vXHK?fight=24&type=damage-done&source=99

yeah he's like a 40-60 parser, and we're trying to help him a bit to get him to the 75+ range

[minor gust]

First off not having cleave talented on a pure ST fight is a good start

[boreal quartz]

do they want to improve or just vibe

cuz if they dont want to it aint happening

[minor gust]

Rest is just pressing buttons in right priority and maintaining uptime on the boss and pressing a button every global

[sullen moat]

maybe he needs a more simple arms spec?

[thick kelp]

Your friend on that frac log

has

wrong talents

absolute horror troll tier embellishments

Negative idea about priority of spells

and his opener is out of a horror film

[warped ether]

https://tenor.com/view/what-the-hell-you're-kidding-cringe-you-can't-be-serious-good-morning-gif-4478643572094819778

that opener cant be real

2x slam 2x rend

may the lord have mercy

[trim lintel]

let the man vibing 😇

[regal pelican]

I have this colossus log on plexus heroic but I was actually slayer, that makes it top 1 colossus parse by a lot lol

[arctic iris]

That's not the opener, though, that's 1:23 into the fight

The actual opener isn't much better tho

[ashen fable]

How far apart are colossus and slayer in M+? i don't quite like demolish's animation

[thick kelp]

Yeah i just linked that pic for comedy

[thick kelp]

If u dont like demolish press N and spec fury for M+

[ashen fable]

Plus i've loved bladestorm since i first saw it

[arctic iris]

Good news, Fury plays Bladestorm in M+

[slow saddle]

Y

Go fury

[minor kraken]

Why is the tuning this season trash, fury is s tier in both content is bs

[shadow ibex]

most well balanced expansion ever

just dont play it week to week

[slow saddle]

Trash???

Arms is very close

Its not as bad as we say it is

[spiral coral]

They’d be better off with one button jesus

[lofty pulsar]

Host your own keys maybe? I’m only in 14s and struggling to find them tbh even hosting

[lofty pulsar]

Hekili will outparse at least 70% on pure single target lol. Maybe tell him to use the assisted rotation

Is it all of them or just the target I hit with mortal strike

[minor kraken]

Very close ? Check archon and check throughput for raid

Check max dps for each spec in high keys and key lvl

Very close my ass

[slow saddle]

Dno man every good player is fury

Look at sims

Overall in keys arms is quite ok, fury better dmg profiel

[shadow ibex]

if we lookin at sims to say arms is fine we completely lost the plot lmao

[slow saddle]

I mean its bad

But arms isnt like suuuper horrid dmg wise

Gameplay is worse

[halcyon valve]

Arms owns

[fossil root]

why would you cleave on a single-target fight?

[sullen moat]

what if they did the same to arms as they did with fury?. just with overpower and sweeping strike. could that work or ?

[minor kraken]

It's not fair fury getting hotfixed and sky rocketing in dmg while we are still working with an 8% aura buff from like 1 month

[fossil root]

I am still amazed that sweeping strikes is not a passive.

[minor kraken]

Like that aura buff made us competitive when fury players were playing thane

[fossil root]

why would you "cast a buff" just to strike an adjacent target?

it makes 0 sense

[halcyon valve]

That is how it works.

[sullen moat]

wups.. i meant cleave

[halcyon valve]

Because active buff uptime can be controlled

[sullen moat]

that cleave also get a chance to cast a bigger reap

[halcyon valve]

No randomness with procs or a chance of hitting a second target, just either you use it and you hit two, or you dont and you dont

[sullen moat]

its 150% more reap dmg ye?

can you even make simc to do that ? 😄

and then send it to blizzrd and say. like this. fix pls 😛

[digital terrace]

Do you delay Demolish for Warbreaker or Warbreaker for Demolish?

Or do you just fuckin yolo send em?

[dull siren]

@latent moss @thick kelp

how many vaults this week Chatting

[pearl wind]

i try to wait and sync them up if they're within 10-12 sec especially since demo gets cdr from MS reset

[latent moss]

9

[dim basalt]

Wild talents jesus

[shadow ibex]

probably forgot to swap from soul hunter build

thats all i can come up with why cleave still there

[warped ether]

back on the grind bois

https://tenor.com/view/sadpablo-gif-27359212

[glacial rapids]

yeah its really bad this week for higher keys... its like everyone collectively found out about arms >_>

Whats it like to play a dps that is meta for a season?

[trim lintel]

tag as fury then switch to arms once u'r about to start the key

[spiral coral]

https://tenor.com/view/david-meece-youre-not-ok-stop-it-get-some-help-get-help-youre-crazy-gif-25860529

[warped ether]

i'm trying to get my last 15 done

floodgate is my nemesis

[spiral coral]

@trim lintel

[warped ether]

yep

still on that

[spiral coral]

I was just showing them 😂

Same thing happened to me playing frost

Except they asked me to switch to arcane and I said no

[warped ether]

its like if i have gotten to that point on this spec it should mean something no ?

why would you care i go arms rather then fury

i dont get it

to each his own tough

[latent moss]

n->fury

[latent moss]

fury higher on popular youtuber tierlist

[trim lintel]

ye i know the feeling xd

[fossil thistle]

MS crits amp all your bleed damage

[jovial hare]

i send it as long as ill be able to demo within cs's debuff

[mortal niche]

speak about it again it'l be a full gcd again

[grave mulch]

714 arms warrior with 2732 io getting declined by an 1158 io for a +10 halls

[untold trench]

To be fair, I rather pick the 3.5k io 718 FDK too

[warm dove]

Will you hate me if I correct you and say I think they have 3?
Sorry I couldn’t help it.

Completely off the topic and didn’t add anything of value just wanted to add 🤷🏻‍♂️

[pearl wind]

theres a funny trick to getting a group as arms its called have a brewmaster tank fren to apply or list with

[wanton mortar]

hai

[grim flume]

What addon / WA is this? 🤣

[viral locust]

Pugs are deranged 3.3k 717 getting declined for 10s occasionally there is no logic

I just want my weekly

[mortal niche]

rahter that over declined from 6s with 12s done

never getting the idol trink

[untold trench]

#arms message

[loud fjord]

its a conspiracy!

fury mafia keeping us deadge

[spiral coral]

arms isn’t dead

[loud fjord]

[spiral coral]

it’s just fury is more alive

[untold trench]

n->prot

git gud

Fury is supreme

[spiral coral]

[warped ether]

its a weekaura

lfg decline counter or something

[obsidian arch]

is fury better for raid as well?

[weak rain]

by far

[warped ether]

Holy moly

Why is floodgate so goddamn hard

It’s like unpuggble

Had like 10+ tries now on 15

The bosses are so unforgivable

[warped ether]

i got it boys

Pugged my way in 1 month all the way to 3300

(3 io off)

[grim flume]

👍

[fossil root]

Give it to me straight - is arms-slayer in HC 6/6 gear viable in mythic+? (With e.g build from wowhead)

[boreal quartz]

mythic plus is like

such a big range

in a +2 ye - +20 prolly not

[sacred zodiac]

for your purposes yes its viable

[fossil root]

Yes - 10-12

[boreal quartz]

yes

[fresh spire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/613772361925394444/1145066402726825984/maximum-tension.gif

[void bay]

https://tenor.com/view/dumb-huh-stupid-idiot-gif-15033206007095816163

[fossil thistle]

I wasn’t sure how many they had

I haven’t played Druid since mop lol

[untold pewter]

Na dude I think
|| ||
|| ||
|| ||

[nova marsh]

Fuys

Do we do damage

[warped ether]

No we heal

[untold trench]

||I have no idea what conversation that they are hiding, and I am too lazy to check||

[warped ether]

they are talking about

|| ||

and

|| ||

[glacial rapids]

🤣

[kindred oak]

what socket are we running on the DISC these days?

[lofty pulsar]

uhhhh nothing. you craft a belt

[kindred oak]

lame

i dont wanna, i want to save the sparks for a 2nd 2 hander and play fury lol

[loud fjord]

what you gonna do if fury gets mid season nerf?

[glacial rapids]

No way fury is getting a mid season nerf before FDK.

If anything they buff some of the lowly classes but most people will be playing Legion Remix by then so...

[shadow ibex]

yea probably far more likely to see lower end get buffed up

[halcyon valve]

+1 to the arms parses on forgeweaver

[warped glen]

Hey all, quick question. Is there a semi competetive build that doesnt run Juggernout? Am I the only one that absolutely loathes the juggernout play style?

[devout pewter]

fury

could technically go with colossus, but I'd guess the damage drop off is just too much.. could try and sim it

[minor gust]

Sim the difference between Jugg and Battle Lord. Last season the difference was not that bad. It's prob a lot bigger tho this season cuz of the tier but feel free to sim it and find out

[wet zinc]

on saladbar platforms do i use WW or just continue ST rotation on titan?

[minor gust]

WW replaces slam at like 4 or 5 targets that's it

[wet zinc]

aight thanks

[empty sluice]

anyone knows why i have so big fps drop on pull on Nexus king Mythic? after the pulsing ends im back on my 120fps

dunno if its some addon or wa

[spiral coral]

Probably add on or wa bloat

[empty sluice]

yea its only first 5s

[spiral coral]

I’m at a point where I only run ad ons when I’m actually using them. Also I went through all my wa’s and deleted the ones I wasn’t using. Haven’t had any issues since.

Pretty sure it just ends up being a huge RAM spike at some point

[devout pewter]

Yeah been having some issues myself lately, like some kind of lag that sometimes comes up.. feels like it's making me worse too

[lofty pulsar]

Good to know I’m not the only one the game craps on with 5-15 second freezes for no reason

I thought it could be the stupid overwolf thing too tbh

[devout pewter]

Was it?

And I'm luckily not having many freezes, at least nothing I can actually see. But smaller things that you can eventually just feel. Like where the games takes a couple milliseconds before the next ability goes off

[warped ether]

hey

anyone khow where i can find a group of people to push 16s+ with

[warped ether]

cuz getting invited seems kinda impossible

[untold trench]

Usually, just play with the people you networked with on your way at that level. Probably the easiest way.

Forums usually got some ppl asking. Then you got Discord servers like, I don't remember the name, key friends, or whatever, someone will correct me. That will allow you to find ppl

Some "community" servers also got some forming going on. But that is usually more work orientated for them than hobby.

[warped ether]

ye i pugged my way trough it

thats the thing

didnt do it with anyone

[untold trench]

You network with PuGs you vibe with. If you didn't, you been missing out

[warped ether]

and you khow most people dont like socializing after saying gg

i feel like everyone putting 16+s up

already has like 3400 io

[untold trench]

Yeah, 9/10 ppl, but those you didn't wanna play with either way.

The ones you want are those that stay a sec after key fails, and join when you say: was close, want to team up and go again?

Get those with a will to socialise a tad and got good mental

[warped ether]

ye you right

[untold trench]

Once you got a tank into your network, 90% of your job is dobe

Ppl will stick like glue to a good tank

[warped ether]

been trying all day to get into a 16

upped my own to a 16 like 2 times

bricked both times

by random shitz

once the tank died in halls

and the other one tank pally pulled us into dog breath after first boss in streets

[untold trench]

Ya know the solution

[warped ether]

i give up

https://tenor.com/view/waah-waa-sad-wah-waaah-gif-25875771

[lofty pulsar]

Addonusage says raiderio is like 25% for me lol and details apparently is another 25%

[devout pewter]

that sounds a lot more than it should

just did a 10 as fury just for funs how it is... nice flow for fights but god damn does it feel like swirling around wet noodles

been missing the good "smash" stuff from arms like half way through

[spiral coral]

Funky said something about they deleted unloaded wa’s and wa bloat they weren’t using

I followed and haven’t had any issues since

[spiral coral]

Ain’t no way.

[lofty pulsar]

That’s only addons don’t think it counts WAs

and idk how it’s measured

I just keep getting frozen every so often and I’m not sure why so I downloaded the addonusage thing lol

idk if it’s blizz but it seems to only be with season 3 cause it was fine last season

[lofty pulsar]

I did that and haven’t had issues since

apparently someone said elvui potentially causes issues but idk

[lofty pulsar]

I’m having issues even getting 13s can only imagine a key that’s actually decent

[spiral coral]

These people buying these BoEs for 90k a pop are nuts

[lofty pulsar]

I can’t believe it’s still happening ngl.

[spiral coral]

I have so much mog money now

[lofty pulsar]

Even champ shit is going for absurd rates

I just got back to work so I just buy tokens

[fossil root]

I have burnt out on maze+

cant do it anymore

[lofty pulsar]

Almost wanna play slayer cause hitting overpower and execute on colossus makes me want to toaster bath

[fossil root]

I think we need tougher raids but on 3 day reset schedule.

Or raids with branching bosses.
In this way raids can be more interesting than mythic+.

https://tenor.com/view/mental-cat-ive-gone-completely-mental-gif-20846828

[tepid citrus]

Bring back bladestorm glory

[loud fjord]

is this critcake?

[dull siren]

@boreal quartz what's the word of the day

[fresh spire]

[mortal niche]

unlucky, it's a fury spell now

[summer niche]

https://tenor.com/view/armswarrior-warrior-warriorwow-armswow-armswarriorwow-gif-27099127

[boreal quartz]

Pregnancy

[fossil root]

I saw too many live-leak vids to know where this is going.

[quaint otter]

[halcyon valve]

🫃

[void bay]

https://tenor.com/view/redblockcustom-man-no-arms-indian-arms-no-arms-man-standing-gif-17755513251794797743

[sharp wyvern]

its time

[shadow ibex]

St buff any day now

[trim lintel]

tomorow™ for sure

[slow saddle]

0.5% buff 100%

[green geode]

What's a good stat spread for arms again?

Like 40% crit 40% haste?

[sharp wyvern]

whatever the robot tells you

[green geode]

Cause I followed simc and ended up at 30/30/30/15

[sharp wyvern]

robot guided you to the sacred numbers

[green geode]

Only reason I ask is because someone recommended 40/40

A while ago

[slow saddle]

40/40/10/10

Facts

[sharp wyvern]

if robot doesnt tell you then its herecy

[slow saddle]

🤣

[sharp wyvern]

also thats a meme

[green geode]

Okay makes sense

I was missing 20% mastery

Immediately went up 600k dps after fixing

[sharp wyvern]

look what you people do memeing around

making people sandbag for buffs

[shadow ibex]

What stats do I need son or what weapon do I craft daughter?

[green geode]

Well to be fair I still ended up fixing it myself

[outer forge]

surely we see an arms buff today

[misty bridge]

for sure

[sharp wyvern]

arms buff for legion remix guaranteed

[green geode]

Do they usually announce tuning on mondays?

[slow saddle]

Yes

Tuesday is reset for na

[chilly hearth]

Arms talk!
https://raider.io/characters/eu/nemesis/Axeramas

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/eu/nemesis/axeramas
This Is my character, i feel lackluster in raid

Usually i go Slayer on ST bosses and switch to m+ talents during the DH boss fight

I use Chaos flask and tempered pots
Allign my trinks and pot with avatar
Make sure bleeds are Always up and MS (or cleave depending on the situation) Is Always on CD

On my belt i Have the versa bonus

Thank you in Advance for any tip 🙂
Im stuck and idk where to improve
Rotation and positioning wise i feel confident i dont make big mistakes

So my thought Is maybe i fucked up the stats somehow

[slow saddle]

Crit in belt

[chilly hearth]

Versa on belt Sims much higher and gives you overall more survivabilty (w/mystats ofc)

[spiral coral]

Someone asked if their damage breakdown looked right in the mage discord and they just put the 🫃 emoji on it instead of answering lol

They were eventually answered but I just thought it was unhinged and very fitting for mages 😂

[mortal niche]

arcane blast, 400m

tada done

[halcyon valve]

Lmaooo

[thick kelp]

https://wowanalyzer.com/report/YmMWzCc9hrv4AQVk/24-4+Fractillus/Axeramas/standard

[slow saddle]

Show pls coz i havent seen that

[spiral coral]

The fuck kinda pvp ass advice is this

[untold pewter]

Any other hero progging nexus king with Arms or am I inting my team now?

[vagrant aspen]

Doesn't seem terrible if your platform has a fdk. Living as fury feels more free though.

[untold pewter]

Good to know, I can arrange that

[weak rain]

I progged it for a bit, but that switched to fury, felt like I was giga trolling my team

[untold pewter]

Were you playing Slayer or Col? Idk if boss damage or intermission is superior yet
We just arrived at the boss

[weak rain]

Tried both, cooked some funny st-ish colo build for platrom, but ended up just playing slayer iwth long sweep and cleave instead of 2 points in bb

and then switched to fury

[untold pewter]

Hope I finally see 1 mythic wep on my vault then

[void bay]

@chilly hearth what is the best flavor of Axe?

[green geode]

Is that dungeon slice

[shadow ibex]

yea idt you can justify arms on nexus king if you really care about your team

maybe after 8% buff

[chilly hearth]

Africa

[wet zinc]

do i cleave in ST?

[shadow ibex]

[wet zinc]

well i mean with m+ build im talented into it so i figured maybe over slam?

[void bay]

DAMN RIGHT!!!

[dire hinge]

it's not worth optimizing around. Remember that it consumes your Martial Prowess stacks.

technically if you had your Fervor of Battle stacks ready, no MP stacks, and MS/OP were on cooldown you could use it, but like... ehh?

just Slam and call it a day, it's not gonna make or break dps

[spiral coral]

long way to say “hellllll no” (unless you’re having to move away for a mechanic or swirly and need to reach lol) @dire hinge you’re the best and I hope you’re well sir

[dire hinge]

thank you! I hope your vault treats you well this week ❤️

[spiral coral]

It will…. Treat my mage well loool actually this break has worked. Itching to play some arms again. Going to raid/push some keys as arms tonight. Been like over a week since I played arms and I think that’s the longest I’ve gone since DF.

https://tenor.com/view/do-something-meme-gif-8007840

^how I’ve felt about blizz with arms

[void bay]

https://tenor.com/view/redblockcustom-man-no-arms-indian-arms-no-arms-man-standing-gif-17755513251794797743

[pearl wind]

slayer arms is a fast track to frustration on nexus king prog

the amount of forced downtime and stack drops

rather just do colossus m+ spec at that point

and with the ST dps checks you're just better off as fury unfortunately

[arctic iris]

Stat differences have a pretty minimal impact on DPS.

You're confident that you don't make big mistakes, but you're already parsing purple on most fights. If you want to push higher, it's about avoiding little mistakes and really optimizing your rotation.

And, on applicable fights, working to sync your cooldowns with damage amps and/or add phases

There's also an element of RNG, in terms of not dropping Jugg stacks and not getting targeted with certain mechanics (particularly during CDs)

[dim basalt]

This part only matters for the very last % though, fortunately

But doesnt make them less frustrating

[dim basalt]

#1347646810457636974 is the channel you might be looking for though

[vast helm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898720803586048/1404607648367775854/884dae019b604034a488bde11a71bd29.gif

[void bay]

https://tenor.com/view/fonzi-eyyy-hey-eyy-gif-1252050656591228095

[slow saddle]

Wtf is that sim 7m?

Isnt st at least nor mass aoe

[untold pewter]

Great design

[slow saddle]

My guy has a sim of arms doing 7m

Imso curious

[spiral coral]

7m fight

Hell yeah

https://tenor.com/view/its-all-about-your-stamina-jadakiss-you-dont-eat-song-its-all-about-energy-endurance-gif-21806321

[minor gust]

Reiterating what Muspel said your parse is gonna come from mostly your rotation and uptime. Next is playing the fight correctly and lining up CDs to match add spawns or amps. And the rest is a combination of RNG, raid comp, kill time, and how clean the kill was. Gear and stats don't really matter just follow Sims and chill.

[slow saddle]

But mainly what sim c him hittin 7m

Is what i wonder🤣

[hasty vault]

cleave crits are starting to get spicy lol

[stable fiber]

yo guys they nerfed arms by 4%

(on mop)

[minor gust]

deserved

[spiral coral]

I saw 8 hour maintenance

and died inside for a second

[green geode]

tuning??? 😵‍💫

[minor gust]

none for arms if thats what your hoping for

[green geode]

https://tenor.com/view/rage-mad-angry-meme-fantastic-gif-24971258

[stable fiber]

its only 8 hours for mop

mop is entering phase 2 which is really just phase 1 but characters are stronger

[fossil thistle]

Soulbinder?

._. pls

[shadow ibex]

go go go

[lavish siren]

Is there a competent slayer m+ build that doesn’t rely on juggernaut cheese? I can’t stand colossus button bloat

[sullen moat]

same. i play colo with no rend.....and focus on big cleaves insted

[hasty vault]

target dummy

[shadow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/what-why-huh-steve-harvey-confused-gif-3998567347368525851

[sullen moat]

yes

[shadow ibex]

our 4pc almost doubles rend dmg

[sullen moat]

yes. for 8 sec

same goes for deep wounds

but if he hate it as now. then he can just focus on getting big cleaves insted. it is colo's main drive. to have bigger cleave

[maiden notch]

https://tenor.com/view/autistic-gif-17151782255244910056

[shadow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/the-punisher-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-no-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-wait-noooooo-dream-sequence-gif-3498303690144489723

[sullen moat]

🙁

[fossil thistle]

It didn’t die

People can’t spread and love stacking

Go blue person goes orange

🥵🥵 weak aura tings

[molten sun]

can we play executioner's precision with deleting one point from bloodborne in m+ for more st? or is it trolling

[thick kelp]

Colossus?

You can if it sims higher for u in ST but makes the playstyle way worse

[molten sun]

yeh just rolled to arms from enhance because it was really tiring and still mid af, i didn't knew arms was doing tank damage on st in m+ if you're not a g

Didn't messed with the sims that much just wanted to be a freeloader since i know for years warrior discord is the best discord for it

thank you

[latent moss]

ye arms st is very bad in m+

well its not very bad but compared to fury it is

[molten sun]

Yeah besides st im having a blast

[latent moss]

yep

[molten sun]

Way more fun than fury imo because fury is as tiring as enhance in m+ im having carpal tunnel playing it

[thick kelp]

Also last time I simmed myself

EP wasnt even a ST increase

over the 2nd BB point

[latent moss]

i was about to say that

massacre is a bigger gain

last time i simmed it

[thick kelp]

So you are potentially losing dmg from taking EP

[latent moss]

and u are losing quite a bit on aoe

[molten sun]

https://tenor.com/view/fade-away-oooooooooooo-aga-emoji-crumble-gif-20008708

[latent moss]

trust me u dont want to play ep colo

u press execute it does 0 damage ur rage bar disappears

and ur mortal strike doesnt crit anyway

[molten sun]

was trying to find some guide on youtube and saw biz's season 2 guide so i wanted to ask

[molten sun]

lmao

tyvm for the answers

[latent moss]

@thick kelp iirc the correct way is not to stack 2 ep but 1

as colo without ct

[thick kelp]

With EP you keep hitting MS on CD on Colossus

regardless of EP stacks

But now Exe > OP in prio

so

shrugeg

[latent moss]

gg

[thick kelp]

so u are perma 0 rage

ff

[latent moss]

shaman wont help

ct wont help

[molten sun]

Im not shooting myself on foot for investing on arms gear right?

[latent moss]

well fury is objectively better but if u dont want to play it

arms is good too

[molten sun]

Great, thanks

[thick kelp]

Overall is same but Fury just smokes 99% of the specs ingame on bosses in keys

[molten sun]

I love Arms playstyle hitting humongus damage with abilities

I just wish they'd just remove all the bleed bs but its been years they're not going to make it

[thick kelp]

Well not all the bleeds

but condense them into 1

its cringe when u get a bleed based tierset like this and then have to pick different bleed shit talents and then count them all combined from an overall

[molten sun]

yeah ptsd'd from bfa, i can't stand having to mess with bleeds

[fossil root]

Bleed spec is fine, as long as it is a viable alternative build strategy.

[warped ether]

I finally managed to do 16 dawnbreaker yesterday

Last boss takes ages

[sullen moat]

its the way you have to apply rend thats ignoring. i donno how many arms warrs who clapping more then 1 time to get the full out of it. if the tier set had made deep wounds do 150-200% dmg after demo then it would open up for more builds to play. but nooooo we can't have that

[warped ether]

In breakdown my deepwounds does as much as ms sometimes

It’s still popo tough

Cuz you don’t see it

[sullen moat]

thats what i mean. why do we have to use 2 x bleed and lock the spec if "doing it rigth" bcos of tier set. drop rend from it and boost the deepwound dmg

[warped ether]

Ye or they could make it like shadowlands where you do 10% extra crit damage to targets with rend or something

Make it feel worth

[warped ether]

I usually try to clap when I charge weave

Mid charge

[sullen moat]

yes. but its only 5 targets then. and if there is like 10 targets in a pull. you are missing out on 5 targets with rend

its ass shit design

[warped ether]

If you ss tough you can get up to 10

More like 8-10

[sullen moat]

ye but still. its ass

[latent moss]

they could just remove it

and move its damage into deep wounds

which u can actually apply to more than 5 targets

[sullen moat]

ye

[fossil thistle]

Press Tclap more then once 👍

[sullen moat]

sure. but it aint fun. colo is like rshammy. more shit to press while fury loling

[fossil thistle]

Arms is 3 braincell class while fury is 1

it’s not much more effort but it’s more fun

[warped ether]

https://tenor.com/view/redblockcustom-man-no-arms-indian-arms-no-arms-man-standing-gif-17755513251794797743

[sullen moat]

im old. think about us mental degrading players 😄

[void lily]

yeh i dont like carpal tunnel simulator

[fossil thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/jay-cutler-bodybuilder-arms-gif-21575171

This gonna be us 12.0

[void lily]

doubt it lol

[fossil thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/shoebody-bop-minute-hour-conjure-gif-25655346

Channel it.

[boreal quartz]

Shoebody bop

https://tenor.com/view/summoning-gif-16806659066271167689

[slow saddle]

LOL

i just saw bloodborne talent not on prot

25% 1 point

2 points 10% arms

[weak wave]

But you need like a whole new set of gear for Fury cause of stats

[astral yarrow]

all you need is a different set of rings, but in reality the difference between optimal stats and trash stats is very low

[slow saddle]

id say in M+ higher than you think

just coz low crit is horrid for 4p

in aoe

[warped ether]

Ye getting Crits on ms with ss in aoe is going to make or break your damage

I got lucky one time and got 2 demolishes in 1 ss

Think 7-8 ms reset

Felt like fury for a sec

[slow saddle]

yeah i tried

playing with 20% crit

it was horrid i swear my unluck was insane 😄 as well

5 ms per crit avg is bad 😛

[warped ether]

Id say 30% is good enough

More then that is also not that good

But oh well

SIM City

Rn I have like 31% crit 40 haste and 28-30% mastery

The mastery owns on dw in aoe

[slow saddle]

yeye

for sure 31% is more than enough

i was just in fury gear

so tbh without procs i was at like 12-15%

as slayer it doesnt rly matter id say

[warped ether]

Ye if I get a decent weapon I might give fury a real try

[slow saddle]

fucry is better

jesus

my spellin

[warped ether]

My weapon is still 710

[slow saddle]

craft?

[warped ether]

I shot myself in the foot

[spiral coral]

LOL

[warped ether]

And thought I’d get lucky with vault

LOL

[slow saddle]

Haha

Very funny

my dk or my warrior still havent seen vault weapon

[warped ether]

Made bracers and belt

And a ring

[slow saddle]

ye id 100% made weap

worst case u get weap., no crests wasted

[warped ether]

I started playing like 3-4 weeks ago

[slow saddle]

only crafted

[warped ether]

Felt confident about weapon

[slow saddle]

y but like if u craft weap

[warped ether]

https://tenor.com/view/h2di-cat-dead-cat-depressed-cat-laying-gif-11402833644907079653

[slow saddle]

u only spend 15% crest upgrading last

nothing is rly lost exept a bit slower craft, on items that arent rly that powerfull

[warped ether]

Ye

Gotta wait another week now

[slow saddle]

but also easy, coz as fury

[warped ether]

No wait 2 weeks

[slow saddle]

u can just slot it into offhand

and be gucci 😛

[warped ether]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-pablo-lonely-alone-gif-12928789

[slow saddle]

i mean season 1 on fury

...

i ended up crafting an OFFHAND

imagine that

720 + 720

2 crafted weapons

did my m+ every week

[warped ether]

Wish weapon was on first 2 bosses so I’d pug it

[slow saddle]

i havent felt so dunked on before

its a crime

theres a polearm on first boss

agi only

cankers

[warped ether]

Yay agi

Criminal

[slow saddle]

weapon should be on 2 bosses

in all seriousness we are cookin though

1st boss mythic has great trinket

and soulbinder opens for astral

[warped ether]

I have sac brood myth track

[slow saddle]

so for real we arent in a bad spot 😄

[warped ether]

And Hero Track Idol

[slow saddle]

y id still use astral

or cannon instead of idol

i hate idol

[warped ether]

Kinda cringe to use ye

I sometimes miss my avatar reck because of it

[boreal quartz]

Noob

[halcyon valve]

Just loot weapon from vault its so easy

[warped ether]

Bully Maguire over here

Is antenna better then idol ?

[halcyon valve]

Sim it

[warped ether]

Cuz I feel like nothing will be better then sacbrood

The primary stat on it is crazy

What’s the uptime on it

Cuz no way it’s 60% in m+

Antenna I mean

[astral yarrow]

you can always check a log

[slow saddle]

I know should do less and get more

[slow saddle]

Antenna is insane

[latent moss]

you can always just not play antenna if u dont want ot

[slow saddle]

And procs on procs

[astral yarrow]

real

[latent moss]

if u are doing +54934 level keys

and u feel like

0.3% dps would make a diff

then swap

i despise antenna and will never use it

[halcyon valve]

I like it because its a passive i dont have to think about

[warped ether]

I miss beacon dude

[latent moss]

knowing myself i would chase the ball around and try to hyperoptimize it

thats why im not playing it

also reminds me of transmitter

worst trinket to ever exist

[warped ether]

Nah dude

Worst trinket imo

Was scar

[latent moss]

jailer trinket?

[warped ether]

I died so many times to that shit

Ye

[latent moss]

ye but u neverp layed it when it mattered so

it got giga buffed going into s4

and s4 was just for fun anyway

[warped ether]

I khow

But still dude

[latent moss]

idk it was funny aligning it

with adds on bosses

the little shitter adds from the raid affix

[warped ether]

You. Just unlocked a core memory dude

[latent moss]

idk scars wasnt annoying to me cause i just fucked around with it and it was rewarding kinda

transmitter was just cancer to use

[thorn stratus]

Puzzlebox was crazy bad..

[warped ether]

I was about to say

[astral yarrow]

ahhh, making the 30 sec timer explode at just the right time with spear

[warped ether]

The mastery tough

[latent moss]

bring back opc

[warped ether]

And being able to do it in avatar bs

[thorn stratus]

You could use transmitter before the pull and charge into it kinda..

[latent moss]

blademasters was giga fake

[latent moss]

until u have to dodge

905465490

beams and frontals

and its not jump 3 times

and u have to delay cds

and then adds die

and u did 0 dmg

cause u delayed cds

[warped ether]

Grieftorch in pug raids was so funny

Worst trinket from dragonflight was boon tough

F that trinket

Not being able to move and just looking at tank pulling the mobs away

[latent moss]

see

[astral yarrow]

it was fun as tank

[latent moss]

grieftorch is based

[sullen moat]

Araz's Ritual Forge = cleave and demo love

[latent moss]

and was fun with the

wa that whispered to people that died

u are nothing but food to me

[weak rain]

Araz forge+prizm best colossus combo

[cunning comet]

Arms is so bad bruh the design is horrid fml

[fossil root]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-pantsahat-hippo-coke-gif-22792399

[cunning comet]

Fmscl

[slow saddle]

puzzle was fine

coz u could Bladestorm during cast 😄

Boon was facking epic when it worked though ;D

[sullen moat]

huh. no tweaks to arms this week either. rip

[sharp wyvern]

only patchnotes we gonna get if when remix drops with the.5 patch

[shadow ibex]

Its die

[narrow fossil]

Anyone got a idea why this macro does not work?

#showtooltip
/cast [@cursor, known:228920] Ravager; [known:227847] Bladestorm

[green geode]

How are you casting an at cursor bladestorm

And doesnt it switch automatically based on the talent

[spiral coral]

Im not logged in but my macro for rav/bs is cast on self

[dim basalt]

iirc Ravager doesnt work with cursor right?

Which is why its common to use self

[misty bridge]

what are those macros lmao

[misty bridge]

#showtooltip
/cast [known:228920,@cursor] Ravager; Bladestorm

you can also use @player, I personally use this with avatar, but have a seperate keybind for @cursor

[latent moss]

works

i use it on cursor

[narrow fossil]

if I use it or try to use it, its just telling me "spell not known" while BS is skilled

[bronze wharf]

i have mine like that:
#showtooltip
/cast [known:Ravager, @cursor] Ravager; [known:Bladestorm] Bladestorm

[narrow fossil]

Works, ty!

[vast helm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898720803586048/1404607648367775854/884dae019b604034a488bde11a71bd29.gif

[fossil root]

This gif with pooskin is getting old and boring.

[soft viper]

wow how lucky we snagged a mythic idol today 😄

[gaunt glacier]

choices are too hard 🙁

[soft viper]

oo i suck i only have a heroic antenna.. choices are hard there

[shadow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/raccoon-city-nispee-nation-resident-evil-oblock-obby-propeller-hat-gif-3956573776064897924

[soft viper]

https://tenor.com/view/spearhyunho-gif-11107522682217076201

[fossil thistle]

Ladies and gents

We got it

[olive nest]

Antenna is sick for M+ I’ve been told

[green geode]

Antenna is sick for everything

[fossil thistle]

Forgot, my other ring has avoidance tooo

[gaunt glacier]

Yeah I know Antenna is the play, just balancing the odds of finding a mythic-idol in the vault

[fossil thistle]

Worry less as Turbo boost in 2 weeks

[gaunt glacier]

this is true 🙂 I'm not worried

[lofty pulsar]

Is there a huge difference between double crit thread and ascendance

[dim basalt]

How much avoidance do you have in total lmao

[dim basalt]

Not really no

Embels are really weak atp

[dry frost]

[native obsidian]

Almost nothing. They forgot to make embellishments scale so they are pretty worthless

[dim basalt]

crazy

[fossil thistle]

very lucky

[native obsidian]

What the hell haha

[fossil thistle]

My warlock has +speed on like 6 things too

I didn't get a single tertiary stat last season though so

[slow saddle]

The fact that, it doesnt scale beyond season 1 is a crime

[dim basalt]

Even in S1 they werent that good

[shadow ibex]

get rid of em

just a boring checklist thing to complete before i can raid

just another annoying slot to replace/gear around to add to the growing list of cloaks, rings and belts

[fervent lance]

so i started playing fury this season and i have been loving it is slayer the best for doing mythic +

[misty bridge]

True

[pearl nymph]

No changes or tuning ? guess this is what arms warrior will be this season, living in the shadows behind fury

[zinc wolf]

You at least have arms

[shadow ledge]

Hi, my friend asked me to put his gear through sims, im tank main and never played arms so could someone guide me how to sim for aoe? Im talking stricly bout simming for keys not pure st. Should i pop like patchwerk with 5 targets?

[pearl wind]

patchwerk 5 or 8

[shadow ledge]

and time? 5mins?

[pearl wind]

ya

[smoky kayak]

Well Fury lived in the shadows last season behind Arms, so

[pearl wind]

im still just maining arms fuck it

[smoky kayak]

Though Arms is a lot closer to Fury this season than Fury was to Arms last season, and both are in a better place as a whole

[hexed kettle]

Is myth soleah with crit buff good for arms? Or socket is better with turbo boost event around the corner?

[pearl wind]

sim it but i imagine you would want stone idol + pacemaker/sacbrood

[hexed kettle]

It’s a significant dps gain in sims compared to my hero track options but wondered if waiting 2 weeks is best and just grabbing socket

It might be more than 2 weeks actually unless I’m wrong. Think dinars will come later this time

[smoky kayak]

turbo boost is in 2 weeks, dinar quests come out sometimes after that

[hexed kettle]

Ty sir

[fossil thistle]

Just buy a 6466 and run E50 you won’t need dinars

Should safely make ~700whp

(Assuming you’re running a Honda with a spoon engine)

[spiral coral]

I miss when cars were cool

[wet zinc]

on bosses with key build do i press rend or thunderclap?

[spiral coral]

Rend st

TC aoe

[wet zinc]

whops

[spiral coral]

Wont make or break a boss fight

[fossil thistle]

Just drive cool cars

[fossil thistle]

I think it’s probably under 0.001% difference in all honesty

I think application damage is around 30-40k dps? Over a boss fight

[green geode]

what did they do to arms

my damage is so bad in raid for no reason

[spiral coral]

mmmmm your raid damage really shouldn’t be that bad

[green geode]

okay and I get a 99 wtf

maybe I got insanely unlucky with resets

[void bay]

https://tenor.com/view/redblockcustom-man-no-arms-indian-arms-no-arms-man-standing-gif-17755513251794797743

[finite grotto]

Myth seaforium vs sac brood?

[loud fjord]

[finite grotto]

Yeah I will tonight 🤣

At work still!

[loud fjord]

than go work

[finite grotto]

🫡

[glacial rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/game-of-thrones-tormund-giantsbane-this-is-the-way-gif-6920601626819058768

[lofty pulsar]

so a myth weapon dropped? do i betray my arms coffin bretheren for 400k raid dps overall or stick with chadmode

[fossil thistle]

Is it possible to parse loomithar if I have to do pillars + swap to adds

I'm 100% sure I can do better, but strugglin

[shadow ibex]

pillars as in soaks?

i have to soak

and parse fine but hitting walls?

yea nah you need hunters with a clue or ele shamans. i never have to touch ours really

maybe snipe an exe for jugg stacks if im actually playing arms that week

[minor gust]

Pillars have absolutely no affect on your dmg you can maintain boss uptime the whole time soaking.

[fossil thistle]

It doesn't effect much no

but

Then leaping across the map to hit a tangle

[minor gust]

it doesnt effect anything

[fossil thistle]

xD

[minor gust]

your ranged should stop being lazy and hit them tangles

melee should only touch if their close

[fossil thistle]

Sadly we're not

[deft osprey]

arms on forgeweaver araz feels so shit

[shadow ibex]

arms feels like shit in a lot of the raid

[warped spade]

Demolish not actually immuning all force movemnt is cringe...

[green geode]

Arms cranks

I went crazy today

[heavy patio]

I was gonna play arms on it, but I've decided fuck it - mountain thane fury for the fight

[shadow ibex]

druid got MCd on nexus king

cast mass entangle

[heavy patio]

BUAHAHHAHAHHAA

thats priceless

[fossil thistle]

Tbh old MCs where they’d just spam heal the boss

[shadow ibex]

gonna start talenting into fear knockback

[grand idol]

My favorite is when lightforged get MC'ed. They almost always drop their racial forge.

[fossil root]

KINO (if happened during phase 3)

[halcyon valve]

go colossus, stack up demolish, find the nearest cloth class, get MCd,

[latent moss]

ava wb demo during mc

group explodes

[dim basalt]

maybe a stone idol on top of it

[daring saddle]

How to get more dps on boss fights in dungeons as a colossos

[halcyon valve]

Press mortal strike harder

[thick kelp]

Crit more

[grand idol]

Improve your Tmog.

[warped ether]

omfg i keep getting priory 17

it is impossible to that key

absolute clown show every time

all went well

then shammy heal who was on battle cry kick didnt kick

and then afterwards told us he didnt khow the boss gets 50% damage increase

he was holding for fireball

[sudden canopy]

lol kinda funy i just started playing again and was testing arms one buttom rotation and its kinda surprising

[green geode]

Im not home can someone sim a trinket for me

The carbonic carbuncle from stormstout mop tw

[void thicket]

Surprising in what way? Good or bad?

[sudden canopy]

not the same as palying manual but kinda works

[dim basalt]

Its like -20% damage

Compared to normal sim

If not a bit more

[green geode]

Thanks

[sudden canopy]

seens to works better for arms than fury

[dim basalt]

Im talking about the one button rota

[green geode]

[slow saddle]

Guys

Only

6 days to buf

[green geode]

[devout pewter]

Game is trying really hard to make me go fury..
Ran priory twice yesterday with the same tank(and pulls). Ran one as wach specc, fury only slightly behind arms with arms gear...
Just for the game to then give me fury bis ring and now in vault fury bis weapon...

[shadow ibex]

buff when

[soft viper]

what would we even want in reality. more dmg to MS? bleeds? un nerf to the bleeds on the tier? i have thought about this before.. i feel colossus does pretty okay i would like more ST i guess i just wouldn't know how to ask for it

[shadow ibex]

honestly idk cuz a lot of fight design is just dogshit

like even if we had great ST nexus king would still feel like ass

[soft viper]

it is surely a blast to play though.. i have figured out the idol and well its angel wings and trumpets

[shadow ibex]

cuz we arent fury able to pick up S tier aoe with 2 talent points

[soft viper]

do you use the splitter of skulls?

i dont i just wonder if adding an ass extra button would be worth it

[shadow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/hell-no-gif-5798318147221316045

[soft viper]

i like the two bb and Soa.. tho i feel i do more overall with dread and blademasters

dreadnaught is kind of cool with the might stacks and all

all i can say is Mis can wear his Blood champion title and it does feel quite fitting 😄

[fossil thistle]

I heard from a reliable source that arms is getting +200% bleed damage, 15% aura, and 45s reduction to bladestorm in 11.2.5

😌

[olive nest]

[fossil thistle]

Fury is being allowed to a 3rd weapon too

[fresh spire]

We get alpha info next week right

[balmy kindle]

apex talent with slam guaranteed

[fossil thistle]

Slam damage +15% per consecutive hit, stacks 75 times

[balmy kindle]

its so evil and troll but i can actually believe it

[fossil thistle]

pressing any other button or moving depletes all your stacks

[soft viper]

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-lotso-youre-not-goin-anywhere-you-aint-going-nowhere-you-are-not-going-anywhere-gif-23922941

[balmy kindle]

buff only lasts 5s

[fossil thistle]

Just heal me bro I’m slamming

[balmy kindle]

not doing mechs guys i neeeda SLAM

[soft viper]

slamdance inc get ready healer

[shadow ibex]

honestly both specs just need a lot. used to be scary to buff colossus without affecting its aoe

but idt thats a fear now. both slayer and col kinda pointless

[fossil thistle]

Some guy on trade chat was looking for a warrior for his guild

Called him out as a liar

[soft viper]

lol

[fossil thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-rock-entrance-wwe-champion-wwe-raw-gif-12577912

Rock (bottom) champion

[shadow ibex]

Its kinda crazy going a whole expac and one of our hero specs p much only playable on like 3/4 raid fights

Probably being generous giving it 4 tbh. Court, OAB but not really and soul binder?

[fossil thistle]

Soul hunters it’s good

[shadow ibex]

I'll drop soul hunters for oab

[fossil thistle]

Ovinaxx as well I guess

[shadow ibex]

Cuz oab was nerfed fast and like 2 people got to play colossus

[fossil thistle]

Blizzard policy my man

Fun detected. Abort. Abort.

[minor gust]

Could be worse could be the few hero talents that never got touched the entire expansion in any form of content

It was clear Blizz was happy with the 1 for raid 1 for M+ outcome

[olive nest]

Honestly kind of a win in my book

[fossil root]

Please change to “Arms is dead AT last”

[minor gust]

Should be treated like one

[shadow ibex]

how?

thats the bare minimum

thats the laziest possible way. its as dumb as having a pvp and pve spec like frost mage or sub rogue or old arms

and that way of design went the dinosaur for good reason

[fresh spire]

Let's be real

The only one it actually mattered was court

Rest was pad bosses where slayer couldn't pad

Colossus Court was some of the funnest prog I did this expansion

[shadow ibex]

Most fun time playing arms all expac

But yea I was being very generous

[fresh spire]

Speed running demolish cooldown felt so good man

[shadow ibex]

tbf I dont think its unique to arms

[fresh spire]

Hopefully we will see more of colossus outside of mplus in midnight

[shadow ibex]

I think thane fury got short end of the stick until OP 4pc

fury overall got p screwed this expac imo until recently

[fresh spire]

Thane fury actually sad now with reap

[shadow ibex]

colossus over shadowed it in m+

and after nerfs fury in raid kinda hobbled in s1

and yea now the reap change thane kicked again

[fresh spire]

Need odyns to get back some synergy again

[shadow ibex]

yea its insane how bad that button feels and ide play fury

but you can just feel the neuter even if you didnt get to use it in df or s1

0 am 0 avatar interaction

just a 2mil global whirlwind

its nice to use in m+ when HoA boss forces out of melee

bout the only time i've been excited to press it

[fresh spire]

I kinda want to see ww fixed up a bit in midnight so that colossus has more cleave emphasis while slayer is spinner

Make fob fire more slams or some shit with ww

And reap chance

Tbh though. Wpuld love to see slayer actually be all about mortal strike and execute in aoe. Good like shadowlands days

[shadow ibex]

i would like slayer arms to get the CDR on BS fury gets

[fresh spire]

Bring in sd reap/give us 3 target ms/execute regardless of sweep

[shadow ibex]

you can almsot get x2 BS off inside avatar

like what

idk neve felt that fast as arms

[fresh spire]

Rather see arms bladestorm just be way more damage than fury

[shadow ibex]

true

[fresh spire]

Or speed it up

Fury also extends avatar from reck and had reck up so often

[shadow ibex]

im just worried its gonna be 2 more years of m+ being cleave ms op

with unhinged ravager

so exciting

[fresh spire]

Guess we find our next week

[shadow ibex]

oh yea i gotta buy this game to get early access

that reminded me

[fresh spire]

Waiting to see that our ability for the expansion is mortal strike. And full points makes it hit 4 targets or some shit just going colossus go wild for cdr

Can see it being anything else unless they do something with colossus smash as both are main abilities for both specs

Cant*

[shadow ibex]

i still hate our tree

after you take the important stuff in the middle just feel like you run out of options for aoe or ST so just take whatever is least offensive

[hexed kettle]

How much of a dps increase are sockets usually? I know it depends on gems and stat weights but curious if it’s 0.2% or even more on average

[trim lintel]

0.4 0.5 last time i checked for me

[minor gust]

Because we expect nothing but the bare minimum from Blizz they just like every massive video game corp sucks at making games. Everyone also already knew from the start hero talents were gonna be an even more balance nightmare than just the talent trees alone.

If they can make each hero tree have their purpose that's good enough

[minor gust]

Been saying this if WW wants to exist as a button It needs to be able to proc reap and let slayer be the pure spin spec and Colossus big numbers with cleave and demolish

[shadow ibex]

atp just remove cleave then

and give colossus frontal MS

let slayer use WB and BS to apply DW

colossus can MS and OP until the heat death of the universe

[minor gust]

I don't think remove cleave but a low target passive cleave build would go very hard for arms

AOE rotation for arms is already pretty much all ST buttons + cleave

[shadow ibex]

really just sick of raising my hand in the air to declare i will now hit more than 1 target

[vast helm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898720803586048/1404607648367775854/884dae019b604034a488bde11a71bd29.gif

[minor gust]

Sick of it costing a half fucking gcd too

[lapis ridge]

Guys fury is better stop lie to your self

[minor gust]

[spiral coral]

https://tenor.com/view/mc-gregor-conor-ufc-boxing-gif-21215303

[tacit sandal]

So are are waiting on buffs this patch,or we are coping with next expansion already

[misty bridge]

Coping next xpac

Current xpac is joever

[shadow ibex]

best we can get for current season is some buffs

[fossil thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/snl-who-dis-whos-this-gif-13851163

[shadow ibex]

hopefully not 2 more years of jugg in mid

[slow saddle]

Plz no jugg

Prot got the rework arms needed

[regal wharf]

am I the only one that really enjoys cleave being good

also like

i like arms's gameplay

[glacial rapids]

You are one of the few, yes.

[fossil thistle]

It needs something to spice it up

I don’t mind it

At least we’re not associated with the BM hunter crowd

[shadow ibex]

rather not for another 2 years

[devout pewter]

What are the bets at that they don't change anything for Arms for midnight?

[shadow ibex]

another dance of death iteration

[regal wharf]

like

idk its a solid gameplay loop

you can build on it

but I dont want it to be drastically changed

[devout pewter]

I 100% want it to flow better.. Had some runs now where I got really annoyed by the reset proccs. They're really fun when they happen and it's generally really fun, but man when the tank pulls 3 groups, you set your burst up perfectly, demolish hits ALL the mobs and then... cleave never reset for half the fight, but does on the last two mobs

[halcyon valve]

no more purple parses in heroic, all orange and better

I got that arms mindset grindset in me

[devout pewter]

aren't those ratings also based on others logs?

[weak wave]

can anyone explain what this (the numbers) is meant to be? It can't be the actuall rating numbers cause these are to low.

when I sum up my stats I get 56319 vs 52763 in the pic

[odd oasis]

I'm also loving arms this tier, demolish feels great and am beating all the meta dps in my high keys

lot of arms doomers in here

[devout pewter]

Just cause we want specific changes to arms that make the bad bits better doesn't mean we're doomers.

I wouldn't be here if I were, and the game is kinda forcing me towards fury now too with the gear it's giving me. It's just gonna mean I'll switch around more often for variety though while I still main Arms.

But yet, there are issues that need to be adressed that just don't feel as good as they could.

[regal wharf]

uh

i get that

like make demolish give extra reset chance

[devout pewter]

Yes! Something along those lines... Or just increase reset chance from overpower in general again... Just anything to keep a flow going instead of defaulting us to slam 🙁

[void bay]

They are probably DR numbers

[odd oasis]

that's true there are some QoL changes that could happen, but overall I think its in a good spot and some people act like its unplayable

[finite grotto]

My only issue with it numbers wise is single target. Otherwise it’s pretty solid

[regal wharf]

I will say

The sfx team for warrior cooked

[fossil root]

If only warrior design team learned a couple of extra recipes.

[pearl wind]

im here again to say: simply buff MS or buff the overpower MS buff

everything else is fine and enjoyable aside from the occasional slam sentence

[stable socket]

alright how do I play arms on saladar without griefing my raid team

[shadow ibex]

wait for buff

[slow saddle]

No

Only buff.ms

Not multipliers for the love of god

[pearl wind]

i vote both

[daring saddle]

This are my stats as arms, my dps is not impresive, ilvl 712, no emmbelishments, wich stat should i craft planing wrist and waist with dusk

[narrow flax]

[daring saddle]

How do i sim dungeon and boss in dungeon

[narrow flax]

Im not the best at it, but you could look up a guide. (Or asking here how to sim should indeed get you answers)

[slow saddle]

FOR THE LOVE OF GOD buff arms, so im "forced" to play it

[halcyon valve]

Buff arms so its at #1 dps where it deserves to be

[dim basalt]

buff Arms

[halcyon valve]

Mmhm, Arms

[grave mulch]

https://i.imgflip.com/a2hzx9.gif

[fresh spire]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/870682754705150003/1396636223233200249/attachment.gif

[loud fjord]

https://tenor.com/view/weak-wimpy-heavy-liftingweights-gym-gif-4772027

[daring saddle]

what a useful channel 🤣

[latent moss]

dead class

12.0 rework waiting room

[halcyon valve]

More like 13.0

[dim basalt]

Acting as if Arms will not be dead at some point no matter what

[halcyon valve]

100 years of 11.0 arms baby

[dry frost]

Is it worth stacking Martial Prowess or Executioners Precision before casting your Brutal Finish empowered Mortal Strike after Bladestorm?

[misty bridge]

Outside of execute not really you just press ms on cd, in execute you only press MS when you have 2 stacks of EP

[dry frost]

Aight, I just wanted to make sure it wasn’t similar to fury and their slaughtering strikes shenanigans

[void bay]

🤣

[vast glacier]

So few classchanges in a season is new for me. S1 and s2 we had changes every two weeks.

[slow saddle]

Prob workin on midnight

[glacial rapids]

Yeah, midnight, and knowing that most people will be on Legion remix soon.

[fresh spire]

We got fuck all changes in .5 and .7 in s2 at least

Only buffs to the weakest classes

[void bay]

buff BM hutner!

[slow saddle]

Ye

Arms has been to dominating for too long

I still remember prepatch to tww?

[warped ether]

Nah dude

Dragonflight Pre patch

Was the shit

Condemn with juggernut talents

Absolute giga dam