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#arms
boreal quartz
sacred zodiac
what did they fix
rare kite
what did they fix
screams on dimensius. you keep stacks from p1 into p3 now
sacred zodiac
is that still worth with all of p2 not mattering
rare kite
idk
void bay
squares was playing 4 chars at once, so overall squares did more kicks than you
warped ether
squares was cooking absolute shit
void bay
😄
spiral coral
I don’t see the problem
Warrs eat up a lot of interrupts as they should, everyone else helped out accordingly it looks like
Pally should’ve had more but it looks like y’all were fighting over them which is a great thing
I’d be happy
void bay
dont all melee have the same interrupts? a st kick, some sort of aoe stun/knock, and then idk? does war have more?
than other melee i mean
daring heron
dk ranged kick is actually so strong
spiral coral
dont all melee have the same interrupts? a st kick, some sort of aoe stun/knock,...
Yeah but like. We’re wars just like, standing there
Pallys should be eating shit up too tho
void bay
i just asked cos you didnt mention the DH at all, and I remembered when I was tanking on mine I had so many control tools it was silly
but that was a while aog
spiral coral
DH’s should top, and should be helping with aoe stuns
But from my experience most of them are too busy zooming around
void bay
lol, true
boreal quartz
dk ranged kick is actually so strong
bit rude the ranged kick is nationality based
need swedish ranged kick
daring heron
bit rude the ranged kick is nationality based
true
spiral coral
https://tenor.com/view/boston-terrier-oskar-spinning-dog-bulldog-gif-16075147
cant wait to see ranged dh's
slow saddle
Best country in the world
void bay
Best country in the world
slow saddle
Dont forget carlsberg
spiral coral
void bay
wha
fresh spire
dk ranged kick is actually so strong
tell me something about the dk kit that isn't strong
shadow ibex
takes longer for death gate to cooldown than for you to change rune on weapon so you gotta wait in class hall awkwardly
-10000 aura
weak rain
void bay
the line about the priest gets me everytime 🤣
dire hinge
God I love me a good lust aura
last saddle
That’s all me
vast helm
sharp wyvern
thank god i thought arms would stay inflated because of araz / soulbinder pad
spiral coral
https://tenor.com/view/kermit-sesame-street-write-gif-4298020
😂 actually saw it in frost and thought it was funny
green geode
im about to try this
brittle cosmos
does arms still have the problem of generating more rage than it can spend ?
glacial rapids
Sounds like a good problem
minor gust
does arms still have the problem of generating more rage than it can spend ?
not as bad as DF but the problem very much is still there rage is cosmetic
mortal niche
you mean the cleave resource?
heavy patio
Arm's biggest issue right now is a lack of arms. GIVE ME BACK MY EXTRA RANGE OR RIOT
weak rain
arms biggest issue right now that it's bad
untold pewter
Arm's biggest issue right now is a lack of arms. GIVE ME BACK MY EXTRA RANGE OR ...
Huh when did we have extra range?
devout pewter
so with demolish cd being a bit random, how long is it ok to wait for either demolish or warbreaker?
Usually for me warbreaker comes off cooldown when demolish still has like 20+s left, even with keeping MS on cooldown constantly. It's not often but often enough to ask 😄
kind shoal
so with demolish cd being a bit random, how long is it ok to wait for either dem...
It means you are using your rotation wrong. You only use Demolish when you have 10 stacks of it. So you get stacks, you use warbreaker and then Demolish
Then your biggest priority now is regain the Demolish stacks. You do this by hitting 4 enemies or more with Cleave, or by hitting enemies with Mortal strikes. If you get to 10 stacks of Demolish, each Cleave that hits 4 or more enemies and each Mortal Strike will reduce the cooldown of Demolish. This way your cooldowns will sync and you can use Warbreaker and Demolish again.
kind shoal
so with demolish cd being a bit random, how long is it ok to wait for either dem...
So again Demolish CD is not random, it depends on how many times you use cleave and mortal strike while you have 10 stacks of Demolish. I hope this helps you out
devout pewter
It means you are using your rotation wrong. You only use Demolish when you have ...
Simply said: I'm not doing anything wrong in my rotation, 100% sure of it. Doing exactly as you said.
It is random in a sense that you cannot control how many MS procs you get so the time it takes to get to 10 stacks to get the cd reduction varies. And obviously with bad luck this variation can be quite bad.
So my question is, if that happens, how about how long can one wait until holding Warbreaker is too much of a DPS loss against just throwing it in unsynced to Demolish.
kind shoal
Simply said: I'm not doing anything wrong in my rotation, 100% sure of it. Doing...
Depends on the size of the pack
devout pewter
No?
kind shoal
Arms warrior is a lot about intuition.
You dont use Warbreaker and demolish when you see the adds at 30% and you got the cooldown back
You need to use it big on pulls. If you get off sync its gonna be tough, and thats easy to happen, specially on boss fights.
devout pewter
That is completely irrelevant to my question, as it applies to any mob group or boss.
And pack life etc. is also completely irrelevant to the question itself
kind shoal
I can't give you a straight answer. how much you hold warbreak depends on how useful it is to use it in the current pull. If you use it and the adds die in the next 5 seconds that will continue the desync of Warbreaker/demolish.
So it will all depend on the pull or in the subsequent pull. Its something you have to figure out on the go.
devout pewter
Again, packsize and life etc. is not relevant to the question....
kind shoal
Oh buddy, I cant help you then. You dont seem to grasp the concept of what Im saying.
devout pewter
ok bro
You're trying to answer the question with very basic rotational answers, which aren't helpful as they're not relevant to the question. I know I'm not supposed to use Warbreaker+Demolish when the pack is about to die etc.
Respect for trying to help but please understand that, again, these things are not relevant to what I'm asking.
kind shoal
Buddy, again. The use of warbreak while Demolish is off cd its completely dependent on the pull. Pack size matters on dps meters cause the bigger the pull the bigger the damage. The health the pull has depends on dps meters cause the less health they have the least incentive it is to use cooldowns on it, since they will die fast and you will move on to the next pull or boss off CD.
its not that hard of a concept. So I cant telly you oh do it anyway, or use it everytime it doesnt matter. Cause it fucking does depending on what your attacking.
you're
kind shoal
Yeah bro use your cd on enemies with 10% health left, see how much damage you do on the next pull 😉
devout pewter
No one said anyone is doing that, but you, but ok..
minor gust
so with demolish cd being a bit random, how long is it ok to wait for either dem...
sub 10 sec of each other and call it a day
no hard rule for it
devout pewter
sub 10 sec of each other and call it a day
Thanks man, had a hunch it's around that time. Much love!
heavy patio
speaking of ms resets - twas a shame that in undermine we didn't just get a giant slot machine on a stick as a weapon
or a blackjack table as a shield
The only long awaited, improvised weaponry we're getting that i've been wanting forever is a soup lid for a shield
teal fossil
So again Demolish CD is not random, it depends on how many times you use cleave ...
its not completely random
but it can be random
remember that crits give 2 stack
and you cant play around that
while WB is not random at all
green geode
im about to try this
@vale gorge build sucks
vale gorge
<@235109015367974912> build sucks
Of course it is. This guy was using this build in my friend's party and I was laughing really hard.
green geode
Of course it is. This guy was using this build in my friend's party and I was la...
Oh no lol
I somehow managed to time a +12 w/ it
vale gorge
wp xD
sullen moat
hey thats my arms build. i do like it. im balotus ingame 😄
sullen moat
Of course it is. This guy was using this build in my friend's party and I was la...
Im glad that i could give you a good laugh 😉
vale gorge
@sullen moat Dude being heere and still playing this build is almost trolling your mate.
sullen moat
<@154913903145517056> Dude being heere and still playing this build is almost tr...
ow. ok. well its ok. we can't all like the same and thats ok 😄
vale gorge
You just have to press Thunderclap every 17 secondes. It wont change your gameplay a lot
sullen moat
You just have to press Thunderclap every 17 secondes. It wont change your gamepl...
you are rigth. but i dont like that. i like to do other stuff with talents and thats totally fine. its great that a game give players the ability to make other builds 😄
vale gorge
Your "other stuff" dont change the gameplay, they just dont do damage. You want to loose 15% damage "because reason" fine, but do this in a dwelve
sullen moat
Your "other stuff" dont change the gameplay, they just dont do damage. You want ...
ow. naa. i play it in keys also. then i can make peeps happy 😄
mortal niche
vale gorge
You're part of the reason why it's hard to join a key as a warrior
mortal niche
You're why I have to fake being fury
sullen moat
You're part of the reason why it's hard to join a key as a warrior
ow. really. i dont think that. im doing fine 😄
vale gorge
You're already proove that you're thinking wrong so
sullen moat
You're already proove that you're thinking wrong so
i can see that. but its ok. all is fine 😄
vale gorge
Are you working in Disney or Marvel ?
sullen moat
Are you working in Disney or Marvel ?
Not at all. would be cool if i did 🙂
dim basalt
You dont use Warbreaker and demolish when you see the adds at 30% and you got th...
30% is a lot lol
In a key of decent level you should definitely pop some stuff
kind shoal
30% is a lot lol
Yeah I guess you're right
slow saddle
BUFF ARMS ST !
limpid hornet
Can't decide which side i'm on lol. Guy has the right to play whatever he wants even if suboptimal, but yeah why would you shoot yourself in the foot like that idk
sullen moat
Can't decide which side i'm on lol. Guy has the right to play whatever he wants ...
😄 but ye. as long i dont do -dps and timing the keys i can't see what the big deal is 🙂
halcyon valve
Feels weird to have a tier set that synergizes with bleeds, and have roar with extra bleed damage, and then not have rend
Also the talent for extended bleeds and ms applying rend under 35% but again, no rend
halcyon valve
In response to this
sullen moat
Feels weird to have a tier set that synergizes with bleeds, and have roar with e...
hehe true. but it does still effect some of it. so its not a total waste 😄
warped ether
I mean we are dodo but at the same time this graph is also because A lot of people switched to fury and the spec is underplayed atm
I don’t think the difference is that high
dim basalt
I don’t think the difference is that high
It definitely is that high
jovial hare
I don’t think the difference is that high
vale gorge
Can't decide which side i'm on lol. Guy has the right to play whatever he wants ...
I would usually agree that people should play the way they want, but here we're not talking about changing the whole gameplay, or playing an another hero talent, it's just using Thundercap every 17 secondes. There is no logical reason to NOT do that, especially when the guy is on THE freaking "warrior meta" discord
slow saddle
I mean not using bleeds when tier needs bleeds. Is trollin
halcyon valve
It takes a special kind of stubbornness to not use rend when there are multiple incentives built into your spec that push you to use rend
livid cloak
Just play slayer if you want to skip rend
quiet finch
hi arms warriors ^^
i was cooking a spiteful serenity arms build, and i would like to know if anyone has any resource on that?
outer forge
lol
fresh spire
Spite full is bad as Cs as so much less actual uptime and flexibility while also reducing the cooldown of bladestorm/ravager (which is big for both hero trees)
Unless spiteful has the 40% value reduction fully removed it will always be dogshit
They need to reverse it to make cds shorter and more burstier than longer and even weaker
quiet finch
Respectfully, youre opinion is not a credible resource for me.
and what you just wrote wasnt helpful.
oh, and ravager/bladestorm uptime isnt very important for collosus. with the current balancing it makes it meta, but it is not especially compatible
fresh spire
Uh so you are completely ignoring the fact that ravager gives heavy cm stacks for faster ramps for demolish especially on aoe.
If you think you have something to cook by all means grab the apl and try stuff out. But coming from the person who wastes tons of time at the start of the season making that apl Spiteful is dogshit
quiet finch
Uh so you are completely ignoring the fact that ravager gives heavy cm stacks fo...
no, im saying that colossus with ravager is not dependant on anger management to work fully as intended
untold pewter
If you think you have something to cook by all means grab the apl and try stuff ...
It's not wasted bro
quiet finch
is it "dogshit" because the damage numbers are lower? or is it dogshit, because it is a bad talent?
because my original question was for resources on spiteful serenity in a arms warrior talent tree, and what you have been communicating is just that "stuff that has lower numbers, is dogshit".
and thats not helping me much, its just not productive
@untold pewter do you have any resource on a arms build that uses spiteful serenity?
untold pewter
Fuck no what I was saying is that Krisp's time on the APL isn't wasted
You can literally just sim shit
Idk what resource you want
Sim it and prove your point
slow saddle
Also imagine having big burst buttob
But the multipliers are halfed
Wtf is the point then
quiet finch
im not looking for "higher numbers" talents.
untold pewter
If you don't care about numbers then just literally select the talent and go play with it
What's even the point?
slow saddle
Flatter dmg profile?
fresh spire
It's use case legitimately doesn't exist. There is mo world where longer weaker cds vs shorter higher uptime stronger cds win. There is way to much synergy in arms around anger management
slow saddle
Id take 40% avatar lasting 10 sec!!
fresh spire
If you killed AM there is a chance it could become good. But anger management in every situation is way too powerful
slow saddle
Opposite stronger cds shorter duration
latent moss
there could be a world where conveniently boss spawns adds like 30s into the fight and u get to stack a 9 million % test of might
fresh spire
there could be a world where conveniently boss spawns adds like 30s into the fig...
Die test of might die
latent moss
other than that its just bad
quiet finch
Avatar lasting 20 sec and reducing cleave cd
warbreaker lasting 20 sec
colatteral lasting 15 sec + 30
only thing that doesnt fit that great there, is ravager
fresh spire
Am needs to die
olive nest
I don’t want ToM to return myself, but it was a decent dopamine spike to see 16k str in s1 DF and crank big MS Crits
fresh spire
Ravager gives you your cm stacks fast enough that you can demolish and get the 4p rolling ontop of your other cds
Am lowers the cds of ravager/Cs around 50% in average.
Just having the shorter cooldowns means your entering packs with warbreaker/demolish way cleaner
slow saddle
Am was fine, but now we got to many layers of cds
Icecap was removed from.frost
Made spec better
quiet finch
then @fresh spire since you said "its use case legitimatly doesnt exist".
what if colatteral was changed to instead ramp cleave damage?
untold pewter
Huh
How's hypothetical stuff going to change the fact that there's no legitimate use case?
latent moss
i mean
quiet finch
well, im theorycrafting.... and the only thing i have learned is that season 1 DF had stacking str
untold pewter
We can "what if" 500 different solutions for Arms but that wasn't the question
latent moss
do u really want 40s avatar
gray herald
no
latent moss
even if hypothetically they removed the damage penalty
in m+ am would just be better
untold pewter
I don't mind avatar at all tbh
fresh spire
Avatar is actually so fucking bad and boring
latent moss
and does nothing on both
such a boring cd
ure bigger and gray
hoooly
do slightly more damage
1:30
gray herald
so real
slow saddle
Y i love it
slow saddle
Avatar needs better capstone is all
latent moss
ava spear roar need to die
fresh spire
Roar needs to be mega buffed for colossus and 3 target condemn needs to return for slayer
quiet finch
roar could be more utilized as a "damage dealer"
latent moss
Avatar needs better capstone is all
or just make the cd do something or remove it and give arms a real cd
increase the amp reduce the duration for arms
fresh spire
It used to do damage. Its just not had buffs this entire expansion
latent moss
remove it for fury
slow saddle
or just make the cd do something or remove it and give arms a real cd
20% dmg buff multiplier with wb is not notgin
fresh spire
While every other ability had 90%+ buffs
latent moss
20% dmg buff multiplier with wb is not notgin
i mean ure just proving my point
latent moss
It used to do damage. Its just not had buffs this entire expansion
roar in algethar
fresh spire
Stacking demolish/4p/avatar/wb actually feels like cds
latent moss
top dmg on overall
slow saddle
Arms is build upon layering shit though
fresh spire
But imagine needing 4 layers of amps to do "burst"
latent moss
now imagine if u didnt have to layer 4000 cds
slow saddle
top dmg on overall
1 pull❤️🤣
fresh spire
slow saddle
Well remove avatar gir back tactician wb procs?
fresh spire
Roar unironically was pretty OK last 3 seaso s
latent moss
and pulled properly
fresh spire
Honestly needed a 100% buff this season
👍
It's so bad you don't even press it in St fury until your button starved
latent moss
spear should go
fresh spire
Talk about fantastic design
latent moss
revert roar to dragon roar
slow saddle
Spear actually could fucl
latent moss
for fury
fresh spire
I see spear being removed for condemn in midnight
Though they can cook some fucked up nodes for it
latent moss
charge cds droar
slow saddle
Spear as utility
latent moss
release
fresh spire
3xtarget execute pls
slow saddle
Remove juggernaut🤣
fresh spire
We should hear alpha news soon
untold pewter
I see spear being removed for condemn in midnight
Well we already have condemn at home with the animation alone
A 3 target execute would be fucking sick tho
fresh spire
"In a few weeks" almost a month ago sus
latent moss
warrior changes in alpha 
slow saddle
Biggest gripe is 100% juggernaut
fresh spire
Well we already have condemn at home with the animation alone
A 3 target execut...
Protection warrior 3 target execute actually feel so fucking good
If slayer had that for keys
untold pewter
I say bake Thunderous Roar into Avatar so you avatar and roar at the same time making Avatar a slightly better CD, remove spear and give us some fucking good option
I forget what was Dragon Roar again? It had auto crit right?
slow saddle
Spear as utility
latent moss
sl droar was useless in aoe
slow saddle
Col 4p could be a nice talent
latent moss
but bfa droar fucked
fresh spire
Col 4p could be a nice talent
Tbh I think both tier sets will go into the new 3 talents on each hero tree
Could see the extra sd from mfe going baseline
outer forge
don't lean so hard into bleeds that we lose our chunky crits tho. that'd make me sad
slow saddle
Tbh I think both tier sets will go into the new 3 talents on each hero tree
I mean then fury is bis next year
fresh spire
Maybe have SD added to reap+ having bt removed from reap in place for raging blow
Op removed for sd
slow saddle
What if
Sd proc = 3 target exe
With sweep 6
🤣
And no juggernaut so baseline exe = strong
outer forge
what if we just run it back with the same exact spec in 12.0
slow saddle
A true sexecution moment
dim basalt
The forbidden word again
slow saddle
what if we just run it back with the same exact spec in 12.0
Is prob whata happenin
outer forge
the worse timeline
slow saddle
The forbidden word again
What? Hope?🤣
fresh spire
What if
Tbh I think it wpuld be unironically balanced if we got 3x execute like prot and the hits also sweep. Since 2 targets are hit for 65% then further reduced.
outer forge
i'll be honest, if they don't make some big changes i'm probably just gonna play ret 
untold pewter
And no juggernaut so baseline exe = strong
Just no juggernaut, please no juggernaut
I'm getting real eye twitching when I drop 15 stacks at 40% of boss HP
This shit is killing me
fresh spire
But it would be really fucking good for aoe mortal strike synergy for popping eps
slow saddle
Y
fresh spire
fresh spire
Thinky the whole world would rather jug bigger and badder. Archis suggested idea for s3 works well
slow saddle
Now u have hope until rngsus takes itnaway
fresh spire
Was 5 stacks. 6 seconds duration, 8% a stack
Was same dps as old jug without jug gaming before tier
But moment new tier came you could actually stack it to 5. You would send sd on cd the moment you pressed an sd. Basically held then power sent
Playstyle was kinda weird
slow saddle
Just delete juggernaut
slow saddle
Its a good talent in theory
outer forge
make execute great again
slow saddle
If slayer wasnt a thing
shadow ibex
Can't wait to play same exact talents for like 3 years
untold pewter
Sometimes I'm at 15 stacks 2sec duration and I legit just sit there eye twitching smashing the execute key in hopes that I'll get a proc — losing GCDs in fear of missing that execute AND then you don't get a proc and just fucking die inside
slow saddle
Yup
untold pewter
The actual worst shit I've ever experienced with Arms
slow saddle
And u get sd proc right sfter
untold pewter
I'm legit "scared of pressing a button and being GCD locked to consume SD"
candid pecan
Sometimes I'm at 15 stacks 2sec duration and I legit just sit there eye twitchin...
been there 
untold pewter
And u get sd proc right sfter
Yeah like 1 sec after
slow saddle
Yup
outer forge
there has to be something cooking for the dps specs... they at least looked at warrior when they made the prot changes.. they know we exist, at the very least.
latent moss
slow saddle
Id say issue is
shadow ibex
I'm legit "scared of pressing a button and being GCD locked to consume SD"
Wouldn't it be crazy if they made a tier set trying to fix that
Meanwhile here I am still gamba on fract
untold pewter
It legit happened on Fract this week
15 stacks dropped at 40% boss HP
slow saddle
Hope u whiped raid
outer forge
rip
shadow ibex
They are just really bad at their job I think
slow saddle
Taunt run out
untold pewter
Imagine you're in charge of making changes to these kind of things but you don't even understand what you're changing because if you did that would imply you actually play/played what you have created yourself but no
No, that would be
Unprecedented
In the history of game design
slow saddle
Paid by hunters and rets
shadow ibex
Idt spiteful ever appeared on a ptr
Just happened with those op buffs we got s1 early
fresh spire
Nah spiteful was dead before s1. Am was broken on ptr for a few weeks so some played spiteful
fresh spire
I dont remember the use case for s1. Arms was a fucking mess in s1 drago flight before 0.5
slow saddle
Facts
weak rain
they need to bake rend and dw into 1 bleed source(dw) and make it strong, like combined bleeds of current colossus strong. Avatar should be gone, only prot "burst" button(or thane for fury). Spear should be gone too. Roar gone or reworked into something like pandaria bloodbath
they could make arms 2mins cd class for example by adding some kind of banner(but only for yourself) ability into arms tree.
Fury should be based on reck, Prot on on avatar, Arms should have it's own burst cooldown
fresh spire
Nah
untold pewter
With the 100% crit chance and all
fresh spire
Just remove reck from arms and make avatar badass
And do same for fury but make reck badass
weak rain
every warrior spec should have unique burst imo
slow saddle
With the 100% crit chance and all
Only if all crit chance above 100% would be chanhed to crit dmg
untold pewter
Dude I think Reck is such a weaksauce cooldown
You do the same shit but faster, it's so damn sad
Faster as in rage gen ofc
jade cargo
@sage badge Arms owns
weak rain
might be controversial, but arms should be more methodical, more flat dmg profile. Fury should be bursty af instead, like flash of anger
untold pewter
It is but you don't feel that part as much as the every other GCD is rampage kind of deal
fresh spire
Now imagine rampage always crit under reck
slow saddle
U feel its used
untold pewter
Now imagine rampage always crit under reck
Boom there
jade cargo
untold pewter
Now it's a nice cooldown
fresh spire
jade cargo
hello mankis
untold pewter
jade cargo
keep my channel and spec alive
jade cargo
yes
untold pewter
keep my channel and spec alive
warped spade
Never get greedy ever
Or be greedy and pray the rng gods for luck, never lose a stack of sd
slow saddle
Or be greedy and pray the rng gods for luck, never lose a stack of sd <a:blizard...
Ngl, playing slayee just sending ignoring juggernsut
Is fun
But sadly bsd🤣
untold pewter
Ngl, playing slayee just sending ignoring juggernsut
I refused to play around it last season but this season I'm a kaching slave
Has that worked magnificently for me? No.
sage badge
<@95652243235143680> Arms owns
Arms owns
weak rain
Ngl, playing slayee just sending ignoring juggernsut
idk, I feel like SD as a concept is so shitty, it should feel better whenever it procs, just do fuck ton of dmg or smth. With current sd spam it feels stupid
remove it completely or make it good
fresh spire
Can defo make it more interesting
slow saddle
idk, I feel like SD as a concept is so shitty, it should feel better whenever it...
But ignoring dmg
As a proc it works
weak rain
At bare minimum it should interact with anger management, count as 40 rage spent or smth.
slow saddle
Ofc
shadow ibex
idk, I feel like SD as a concept is so shitty, it should feel better whenever it...
There's like half a tree making rime procs feel good. We get hero talent tree that tries too but instead just holding casts for weak aura to say when
normal grove
Hey peeps, I am contemplating recrafting my crafted gear with different stats. Do any of you know how to go about making a sim of this?
spiral coral
keep my channel and spec alive
floral belfry
so arms warrior is unplayable?
spiral coral
God no. It’s 100% playable.
weak rain
so arms warrior is unplayable?
Its playable, just bad
if they exclude soulbinder from rankings, arms probably is going to be rightfully last
halcyon valve
Its playable, just bad
Saying its bad is also delusional
glacial rapids
just play whatever the eff you like unless you enjoy FOTM rerolling, or your guild is forcing you to play something specific for CE.
If anyone tells you, you shouldn't play x, y, or z because they're bad. Tell that nerd to shut up and touch grass.
halcyon valve
Based and real
weak rain
Saying its bad is also delusional
What it is then
I think it ll be last if they remove soulbinder from rankings
fresh spire
Bufff arms
weak rain
sure colossus isnt shit in m+, but
fresh spire
weak rain
why play arms when fury ooga booga good
fresh spire
Do think the reap change leaves arms in quiet a weird apot
weak rain
I’m already bored
So am I, but what can you do
spiral coral
LOL
fresh spire
Like. Slayer fury is just damn strong in all situations where arms still feels heavily tied into its neish.
bleak fog
But for real, slayer fury might be the most boring spec there is atm?
Remove details or hide it and cope much! 🫣
fresh spire
It's pretty braindead for sure
Reap is fun but outside that it's pretty lack luster in my own opinion
Defo had more neuron engagement with arms than fury but mostly a fury Andy since it's just better rn
bleak fog
I just hate the ww spam
Got kicked out from a 13 yesterday when they realized I was in arms spec 🫢
slow saddle
I just hate the ww spam
Hates ww spam presses cleave 24/7
shadow ibex
Like. Slayer fury is just damn strong in all situations where arms still feels h...
Impossible to justify arms
Needs to be an ST beast rn
green geode
What's the deal with the jastor diamond ring i keep seeing it on warcraftlogs
untold trench
Its a good ring many ppl got themselves
fresh spire
It's still op
weak rain
with current slurry reap balancing for st/aoe/cleave
arms has to be like 3-5% ahead on pure st to not be poo
imo
weak rain
fury is ahead on st so
shadow ibex
I was being generous tbf
Giving benefit of the doubt let's say they are perfectly even
wet zinc
when i enter a pack in m+ with 0 colossal might, do i try to get to 10 stacks before popping CDs?
weak rain
yes
amber phoenix
with idol, should i be usin pacemaker or antenna in m+? i simmed having more st with antenna but not sure how to sim aoe
wet zinc
yes
so i press MS and cleave on CD with OP as filler until 10 stacks and then pull all the levers?
slow saddle
fury is ahead on st so
In m+.esp
slow saddle
with idol, should i be usin pacemaker or antenna in m+? i simmed having more st ...
Antenna even better aoe wdym
Both give crit
1 is better
mint patio
with idol, should i be usin pacemaker or antenna in m+? i simmed having more st ...
I like dungeon slice. Some use 5 targets 1 min, some use 5t5m. They all have their pros/cons on how you look at it.
amber phoenix
I like dungeon slice. Some use 5 targets 1 min, some use 5t5m. They all have the...
just noticed this part of the sim options, thank you!
gusty nymph
How do we feel about cursed stone idol. Is it worth it with the channel? I have a mythic one in my vault
devout pewter
Yeah it's kinda insane for aoe
gusty nymph
It’s a great aoe trinket no doubt
Thanks
gusty nymph
Yeah it's kinda insane for aoe
Tyty
pearl wind
Impossible to justify arms
for a 13 though its still good
vast helm
odd oasis
does anyone know if sacbrood doesn't sim properly, it's saying its worse than all my other trinkets in M+ even tho i see most running it
finite grotto
Is sacbrood better than seaforium?
minor gust
does anyone know if sacbrood doesn't sim properly, it's saying its worse than al...
yes sac sims properly its just not better for you. Sims are for your gear and your character dont worry about what other people are running.
pearl wind
if you have a sacbrood already you can just always hang onto it and sim it again later with different gear
odd oasis
I have arcanocore from raid and it's doing less than 2% in dungeons but somehow sims better than sacbrood which seems off
eager sigil
it has strength instead of haste
rare kite
egg
charred brook
egg ye
pearl wind
ta egg ye
peak jacinth
does anyone know if sacbrood doesn't sim properly, it's saying its worse than al...
Could also be HOW you sim it. Being able to sim M+ reliably is somewhere between an art form and a waste of time.
Dungeon Slice? 5T1M? 5T5M? etc etc etc.
odd oasis
i usually do patchwerk 10 targets 2 minutes
misty bridge
1t, 5t, 8/10t at 5min
minor gust
fight is a mess I dont like it
shadow ibex
council fights usually have weird debuffs to manage
but the last intermssion is just ass
minor gust
Wtb a council fight again where shit isnt just jumping around everywhere
Vault council was bis for that
shadow ibex
oh we're mad lucky
we have a prot warrior
he just leaps to the guy
p much a race between which of us leaps first
minor gust
we have a prot warrior and a blood dk
shadow ibex
ours are stacked 10000% of the time
minor gust
and its very obvious which one is moving the boss at the time
shadow ibex
ahhh yea
monk and warrior so they just ez stack
pretty much so fsat we never see a blade dance as melee
the boss is moving while blade dance is happening behind us
only like a handful thru the whole fight we actually have one us cuz otherwise they line up with the shadowstep
and then even those they were doin clutch shit by baiting it toward the outside edge so a lot of the dance was off outta melee 
vast glacier
We got so many ranges, er had only dh and rogue in our setup,
wanton mortar
what talents best for delves?
untold pewter
what talents best for delves?
It's kind of whatever
You can just run your m+ talents or honestly whatever
Get some CC and get impending victory/second wind
grand idol
Spec prot.
fresh spire
Prot legit free
valid walrus
With the damage that prot does, it's a cakewalk
viral locust
People do delves
Yeah do delves to buy the map item send to alt free heroic piece every week pretty much
Good way of gearing up quick 1x 10 key + 1 heroic item hopefully in a useable slot for alt
candid pecan
WHAT A DEAL 
dim basalt
No great rewards in the great vault = no deal
weak rain
People do delves
Watch how popular delves will get in the midnight
viral locust
Yea for like 1 week lol
spiral coral
Watch how popular delves will get in the midnight
Wdym watch? If we had a pie that was a chart, the delve pieces size would shock us.
Like right now 8:24 in the morning there’s like 10 groups searching for t8-t11s
fast before reset
jovial hare
just go do a fucking key
'b-b-but the timer'
just ignore that bitch if ur not interested in timing, i say
glacial rapids
Yeah! How dare people play differently than me! You can only play a video game one way and that's my way. 
shadow ibex
I think delves aren't going anywhere
ruby basin
I liked delves I’m a returning player and it got me geared extremely fast for +10 keys
boreal quartz
Yeah! How dare people play differently than me! You can only play a video game o...
Ok but i am completely correct always
And i think delves are mega slop after pre-heroic week
glacial rapids
I think delves aren't going anywhere
No shit, there are 11 new delves in Midnight... people like them.
boreal quartz
(pls let me get the funny delve helmets easier)
ruby basin
Last time I played was late BFA and it was impossible then to get geared for mythic+ if ur a new solo player
I quit after doing dailies in nazjatar for a month and never touched retail until now
spiral coral
delves are good for the game
I'm not bitching people are doing grouped 11s
I just think its.... weird
rapid bronze
man second time I get signet in the vault feelsbad
heavy patio
Oof choices
heavy patio
signet of false acuser is bis ring for fury, and pacemaker aint bad for m+ - antenna is technically farmable
also one of my rings still champion 😭
fresh spire
L boys. L.
2 bis fury items. Games telling you something
untold pewter
<@&257983573498265600>
bold ether
noobs
fossil thistle
2 bis fury items. Games telling you something
to unsub? 🙁 okay...
untold pewter
signet of false acuser is bis ring for fury, and pacemaker aint bad for m+ - ant...
Technically farmable
Our guild has 5 heroic kills 3 mythic kills and we've seen 2 NORMAL drops so far and that's that
sharp ravine
https://gyazo.com/1d44a14cf8502d35eac274dccbff6196 first week back and here we are
soft viper
i know its just a 10 priory but hell yes most dps i've ever done
olive nest
thick kelp
halcyon valve
tall socket
what's doing better rn for m+? colo or sla
thick kelp
colo
tall socket
aiight, ty o7
halcyon valve
Even if the numbers were lower id still say colo because its simply the goat 
old jasper
i have it on hero, i should still go for a crafted wep instead?
warped ether
hc is alos good
warped ether
i have it on hero, i should still go for a crafted wep instead?
if you dont get a myth track weapon from vault ye
old jasper
oki thanks
warped ether
huge upgrade
thick kelp
Only if you could sim this
trim lintel
🤖
warped ether
i have it on hero, i should still go for a crafted wep instead?
Hold on to it if you go do transmog runs tough
Really good for that
spiral coral
i know its just a 10 priory but hell yes most dps i've ever done
The shit is that arcane doinnnn.
minor gust
It's a 10 that's what that arcane is doing
smoky kayak
The shit is that arcane doinnnn.
letting the Warrior look good
outer forge
being charitable to a make-a-wish arms warrior.
slow saddle
Affix mobs into bosses?
shadow ibex
Oh yea I forgot affix exists
shadow ibex
Yea I completely forgot they existed
soft viper
they help sweep things too lol
shadow ibex
We had those week 1 as well. Def helped make thane look better
soft viper
i gotta get super shockwave.. i was hoping for something good from the weekly. got bracers.. rip
soft viper
hopefully you get something great.. i had two fury rings and a crit/haste not tier hat.. took the hat
dry frost
Photon saber for mog 
onyx dew
how do people like ticking sack of terror?
shadow ibex
Photon saber for mog <:okayge:917646812519739433>
tbh i would be tempted cuz its also tech an ugprade for arms and fury set
but current weap has this many speed
idt can replace it until 11.0
shadow ibex
ring is biggest upg for both specs and idt i'll get it from dropping in raid
fossil thistle
I got avoidance ring
shadow ibex
surely arms buffed while we are proggign salad bar
fossil thistle
im at 8% avoidance now
shadow ibex
right guys
weak rain
friday is the day
20% more MS dmg, 10% more op dmg, 10% more execute dmg, 10% more slam dmg. ST babyyy
weak rain
also 100% bleed dmg from tier set for colo
jovial hare
i decided to do a heroic dungeon to get the spark real quick like
this game is mocking me
surely my 14th HoA will get me an idol
outer forge
I’ve lost count of how many hoa ive run, never seen it drop
soft gust
I got it after 20 something runs
radiant dawn
only got mine cos someone traded it to me w.o realizing it's their bis
outer forge
Rip for them
stable fiber
The shit is that arcane doinnnn.
arcane kinda blows in low keys
esp with a frost dk and fury warrior who do way more damage than you way faster haha
im like pretty good at arcane and it is not fun in weekly 10s because packs dies before you full ramp
spiral coral
I’m bad I play frost
void bay
im like pretty good at arcane and it is not fun in weekly 10s because packs dies...
Full ramp? I just started playing my mage again since legion and I get no ramp, just end up spamming arcane blast to get back to 4 charges after I blew my load
stable fiber
u doing it right for sure
void bay
And target swapping to kick when you used that touch spell to build damage sucks ass
spiral coral
I’d leave my guild and find a new one immediately lmao fuck outta here RECLEAR?!?
Prog. Whatever. I don’t know the standards of that guild. But reclear? Nah. That’s wild.
I mean I guess? If you aren’t going to prog with someone why reclear but at the same time that person has already raided with you and has that slot? So wtf. Idk
dry frost
Im not even like doing bad dps lol, I had an unlucky forge and I couldnt pad on soul binder. I didnt do soul hunters because they range stacked. but like I have good dam on the st bosses
I stg its cause I play arms and we have a pwar
so like I am not needed for buff, and I am playing the inferior spec for a raid that already favors ranged
Idk it just sucks but what can you do
dry frost
I didnt play the last 2 seasons so I am glad that I will at least get CE in reclear
Mythic
fossil thistle
spiral coral
I meaaaan. Did they ask you to switch to fury like, weeks ago?
fossil thistle
just play furry
spiral coral
Regardless that’s just dumb. But at the same time I’ve seen a fury benched on a guild that’s like 125ish ranked NA so like. Don’t feel bad. Not just an arms deal.
dry frost
I have an extra neck and ring for spec swaps and a myth and crafted weap
spiral coral
Mythic guilds be cutthroat
dry frost
Im 715, 3ilvl higher than the team average of 712 according to mrt
spiral coral
Fuuuuucking Christ
dry frost
All I got was a myth chest from first boss
Im still stuck with double Champ trinkets cause they havent given me any from hero reclears
I love my soublinder parse
I have a 54 for damage but a 99 for damage to bosses
Man I even pre farmed rep and got capped on crests before raid
For what
fossil thistle
yea but how are your healing parses
dry frost
fossil thistle
🔥
dry frost
I am at 6 tertiary
fossil thistle
I got this yummy ring
dry frost
sheesh
fossil thistle
fossil thistle
yea
people at one point were getting like 15-20% speed
lol
I was lucky w/ my first vault too
I'd gladly take avoidance on everything lol
shadow ibex
I stg its cause I play arms and we have a pwar
nerf prot buff arms
dry frost
I was lucky w/ my first vault too
Need as much avoidance and leech as possible as arms if you wanna compare to fury in the survivability department
limber solar
lofty pulsar
ive heard with avatar but idk honestly im not an expert
i do it on pull, but that makes no sense since it hits like no mobs. probably gonna do it immediately after charge
cause more mobs hit = more crit gained etc etc
minor gust
It's not that complicated you use right before your cds
tribal sedge
Just wanting to make sure when simming for AOE on arms, do we use the dungeon slice fight style? I know in the past I was told no that it is not the best way for arms, but I know things can change so wanted to make sure.
fossil thistle
BRO
I LEAPED OFF THE EDGE ON PLEXUS
LMFAO
cast at cursor + holding RMB = not smart
spiral coral
Just wanting to make sure when simming for AOE on arms, do we use the dungeon sl...
I do 1t 5min, quick sim, 5t 5 min, and then make a decision.
minor gust
Just wanting to make sure when simming for AOE on arms, do we use the dungeon sl...
AOE Sims aren't always the most accurate thing that's why it's not a big deal. At the end of the day 3 lines of thought all equally work. Just sim ST and call it a day what's generally an increase to your ST will increase your AOE (assuming we're only talking about gear Sims). You can also just use dungeon slice it's fine and more commonly you can just 5T-10T set the time to your avg M+ pull time and call it a day
deft osprey
Hell yeah #3 arms parse on loomithar
fossil thistle
Hell yeah #3 arms parse on loomithar
I can't even live
because range gives us no space 8)
I got a good one on Soulbinder I guess
🙁 We skip the last set or two of adds
regal wharf
Guys
Question
Does our slayer tier set bonus apply to dreadnaught
In the same way that reap the storm scales with fury’s cleave
Oh my god they got rid of dreadnaught
YOU ASSHOLES
rare kite
Oh my god they got rid of dreadnaught
huh
regal wharf
it works with sweeping OP
once again we’re cucked by sweeping strikes
vast glacier
New day and still no arms buffs
minor gust
and you aint gonna see em
scarlet atlas
slayer arms is a thing?
sage light
Silly Q maybe, but do you use cleave at all on single target? or just MS/OP/Slam
in m+
untold pewter
Silly Q maybe, but do you use cleave at all on single target? or just MS/OP/Slam
Only to consume collateral
In case you get some add spawns here and there mid fight
Can get some fat collateral cleaves in a few specific instances like that like the robot boss in floodgate during the damage amp
Otherwise it's just ms/op/slam/execute yes
sage light
Awesome, thanks
normal grove
Is it possible to uncraft crafted items so that you can use the Spark on a different gear slot?
sacred zodiac
no
scarlet atlas
Can someone help me with arms? Im 707 and i just had 4m overall in dawn 12, 0 deaths, im using critcake talents (colossus) but the spec just doesnt deal damage?? Fury had almost 7m overall, he was 715 tho
zenith warren
30 gilded vs a socket
glacial rapids
Can someone help me with arms? Im 707 and i just had 4m overall in dawn 12, 0 de...
What do you need help with? Arms isn't doing as much damage as Fury atm and Dawnbreaker blows.
scarlet atlas
i think my stats are the issue, i have 20%crit 25% haste and 40%mastery
dim basalt
Nah
glacial rapids
That could be for any number of reasons. How many times did you die? Was the tank chain pulling? Were you using cooldowns willy nilly? Was warbreaker and demolish not alligned? Were the pulls poorly grouped?
dim basalt
Stats are more optimization than anything
Youre not gonna do a few million less dps just because of stats
More often than not the issue is ABC
south cypress
What were the critcake talents? I’ve seen a build without merciless bonegrinder and two points in bloodborne? Not saying it’s the issue just curious
glacial rapids
Pretty sure it was the standard m+ build but dropped SKS for an extra point into bloodborne and thats it.
daring heron
found it worth to take 1 point off bb and put it into sks
as bad as that feels
cause nobody wants to play sks
scarlet atlas
What were the critcake talents? I’ve seen a build without merciless bonegrinder ...
thats the one
i tried like this and did a bit over 5mil in priory
im pretty new to arms but numbers seem so low, i like playstyle but it just doesnt work?
fresh spire
found it worth to take 1 point off bb and put it into sks
Sks isn't that bad when you consider you still cleave>ms as a prio anyway. Basically using it over an overpower which is pretty weak as no DN and mp was nerfed
scarlet atlas
That could be for any number of reasons. How many times did you die? Was the tan...
i try to allign those but sometimes they were off, should i save cds to always cast them together?
daring heron
Sks isn't that bad when you consider you still cleave>ms as a prio anyway. Basic...
ya its just another button and it's annoying
and doesnt feel good to press either
fresh spire
It's OK on St at least
Low-key buff ms in colossus 5% and arms 3% aura
Legit has no neish in raid. Just make it st king
daring heron
i agree but i also dont wanna play arms so no ty
make arms fun then i'll be happy to see it buffed
celest forge
Arms is great for M+
thick kelp
Legion arms
fresh spire
i agree but i also dont wanna play arms so no ty
Real
You know arms bad when fish is fury
fossil thistle
Legit has no neish in raid. Just make it st king
Neish? You mean niche
Sorry it’s early morning
fossil thistle
What were the critcake talents? I’ve seen a build without merciless bonegrinder ...
You can either 2Bb or 1Bb 1 SKS
If you refuse to play sks it’s not enough of a difference to make or break a key unless you’re pushing.
Running weekly 10s? Run whatever.
fossil thistle
Or just play prot and actually get invited to keys and still blast lol
fossil thistle
I cant spell
Hahah I’m just being a prick 😌😌
fresh spire
fresh spire
Can't spell enjoyer
fresh spire
celest forge
Or just play prot and *actually* get invited to keys and still blast lol
Joke's on you, I only wanted 3000 rating and arms got me there.
warm dove
Neish? You mean niche <:okayge:917646812519739433>
I thought it was “Nietzsche” 😏
fossil thistle
Joke's on you, I only wanted 3000 rating and arms got me there.
Jokes on you í only need one key to hit 3,000
olive nest
Ngl I think the trinket is much less likely to show up again but many weapon options could
That’s a tough decision
Do you already have 720 crafted weapon?
copper swan
no, i avoided the craft as long as possible so i would'nt be mad at a wep in vault
fossil thistle
Turbo boost should be early October í think? If you’ve timed all 12s could just buy it by then 🤷♂️
copper swan
i already have a hero track idol
copper swan
Turbo boost should be early October í think? If you’ve timed all 12s could just ...
i had that in mind too yeah
olive nest
True turbo boost soon
copper swan
i'm not a super good player but i might get to all 12's
fossil thistle
If you have hero trinket yea, it’s probably an upgrade but to what extent 🤷♂️
Weapon is all content upgrade and the stats are nice
If you sim both at 723 upgraded I wonder what it would pick
olive nest
Assuming toll has 710 idol already and a 710 weapon already
Weapon will win at 723 hands down
celest forge
Jokes on you í only need one key to hit 3,000
You just need 15 million DPS, have fun champ!
olive nest
Weapon >> trinkets > helm/chest/legs > jewelry
generally speaking
zenith warren
you guys take improved bt at all?
zenith warren
oops xd
slow saddle
But yea as fury
I do
Some dont, dno the value lost
I c dmg talent.. i use dmg talent
fossil thistle
You just need 15 million DPS, have fun champ!
Easy peasy
vale gorge
Is +3 ilevel DAT game changer ?
trim lintel
yeah, it's the difference between a 99 parse and a 99 parse
inner wasp
https://streamable.com/y99z7r everyone saying arms warrior bad but arms warrior can 100-0 yasuo so idk what the problem is
void thicket
Yasu who?
devout pewter
I like the fact that I just got Myth Boots in my Vault, but my 8/8 Veteran boots with that Reshii ability are still better...
And seaforium is also still better coming from hero track lol
fossil thistle
I like the fact that I just got Myth Boots in my Vault, but my 8/8 Veteran boots...
Mmm idk my 710 hero boots only sim like 20-30k behind 704 cantrip ones
lean wraith
colossus m+ enjoyers whats an average number you pull on single target bosses?
devout pewter
colossus m+ enjoyers whats an average number you pull on single target bosses?
~710 ilvl I usually go between 3 and 5 mil depending on the boss.
devout pewter
Mmm idk my 710 hero boots only sim like 20-30k behind 704 cantrip ones
Yeah iirc from my sim the myth boots are only like .3% better, trinket .8%
It's still funny to me how that ability alone makes such a difference
fossil thistle
Yea around 3.5-4.5m is pretty consistent
lean wraith
okidoke thankyou, theres def something im doing wrong then
fossil thistle
okidoke thankyou, theres def something im doing wrong then
Silly to ask, but you don’t have a log from M+ do you?
It’s kinda luck dependant I guess. If you go in without CDs or demolish you’re likely to be closer to 3m mark
But I’ve pulled bosses with full CDs pot and demolish and ended at 4.6-5m a time or two
lean wraith
Yeah, unfortunately not, i'm a long time player but i've always been pretty casual till season 2 tww, so i started simming only last season. I'm reluctant to start logging cause i play a lot of chars as alts etc, and bad performances may screw me if people are searching for raids.
if its possible to only log one or two chars i wouldnt mind doing my hunter and warrior
and yeah im normally around 3m, but sometimes as bad as 2.5 if theres a lot of movement etc. I've got this curse, i'm a tank main really, switching to arms, and the aoe shit i can absolutely pump. But ST slayer in raid? or st colossus in boss fights in m+? i just cant seem to do it
@fossil thistle
devout pewter
I'd argue no logs are worse than bad logs for searching groups.
And if you're running a raid and just one person is logging, you're in it too and it gets tacked onto that character
olive nest
Some arms chad showed up to my normal salad bar pug for rep and topped the meter
So based
fossil thistle
Some arms chad showed up to my normal salad bar pug for rep and topped the meter
Wasnn me
I did pug salad bar yesterday early and did like 5.5-5.6M I think, sadly no log 🥲
fossil thistle
Damnnn
I did 5.47 on heroic , were like 2-3% off skipping adds 🥲
I need a good soulhunters parse and dinensius.
87/94 which are alright but I’m 95.9 avg and I wanna get that sweet sweet 97
fossil thistle
<@153341970767544320>
Check ya DM
glacial rapids
okidoke thankyou, theres def something im doing wrong then
Bosses in m+ can vary drastically depending on how much forced down time there is for melee. But you should be aligning roar with avatar and warbreak with demo. The rest should take care of itself as long as your spamming mortal strike and op.
fossil thistle
Bosses in m+ can vary drastically depending on how much forced down time there i...
Pretty much.
Wouldn’t hold CDs over 8-10a desync though
wet zinc
am i right in thinking that in keys i send all CDs together > then send demolish warbreaker and TR together while avatar and ravager is on cd > then hold until everything is ready together again? or is there a moment where i send stuff individually?
wet zinc
until they are close to aligning
is there a rule of thumb of what does close to align mean? And ive been holding demolish for a bit so i can use warbreaker before it. is that wrong?
fossil thistle
If you hold demolish for a couple seconds that’s fine, but I wouldn’t wait 15s for warbreaker to come off CD.
You’ll likely press enough MS and Cleaves over those 15s to have 10 stacks again and start getting the CDR
Would hold CDs if you’re over killing though, or for a little bit if you know you’re getting a nice 4/5 pack pull
spiral coral
is there a rule of thumb of what does close to align mean? And ive been holding ...
If wb is 10-12s and I have demo, I’ll wait. No longer than that though. Cant even be a thought or it’ll lead to dps loss.
12s is the max rule of thumb imo
And that’s pushing it
halcyon valve
Showed you the truth of the warriors
Play arms
olive nest
I betrayed my arms brethren this tier
Fury looked too strong
Probably swap back once fully on farm
halcyon valve
(Hypnotizes you) oooooh youre going to play arms now ooooooh you want to never play fury again aoooooooooh
daring heron
nice try
olive nest
nice try
amber phoenix
(Hypnotizes you) oooooh youre going to play arms now ooooooh you want to never p...
no hypnotization needed for me, im a chad you see
till death do us part (they'd literally have to remove the spec from the game)
gusty aurora
thick kelp
CcEArbixk/ZKwTdpZGVHeylmLghZmZmxMGzystsMmBAAAYw0AzyMzwYZMzMWMzMmBGGAAAAAAAmxsMGDYLmxy2AbgBMDTIjhNA
warped ether
man trying to pug trough 14-15s is rough
fossil thistle
Remmeber guys, Critcake is a centaur not a warrior..
(Notice how he has one weapon, truly an Arms warrior)
daring heron
fickle oar
whats the general opinion on arms at the moment? its always been my main but it feels a bit awkward to play at the moment
olive nest
Remmeber guys, Critcake is a centaur not a warrior..
What the hell 🤣
daring heron
(Notice how he has one weapon, truly an Arms warrior)
this is actually from an arms video thumbnail
i remember
blue smolderon 2 hander iirc
fossil thistle
The truest of hero’s
celest forge
I'm sad that sometimes the Nexus King parse is bad just because people blasted the adds harder than I did
fossil thistle
I'm sad that sometimes the Nexus King parse is bad just because people blasted t...
Blast better and skip phase
celest forge
We don't have the DPS to do that unfortunately
I've been trying
No such thing as a hard carry in a raid environment
fossil thistle
whats the general opinion on arms at the moment? its always been my main but it ...
celest forge
whats the general opinion on arms at the moment? its always been my main but it ...
Great in M+, mediocre or bad in raid on most bosses. And a lot of people who normally play arms are swapping to fury because it's better than arms right now.
wet zinc
whats the deal with dreadnaught vs strength of arm in keys?
fossil thistle
SoA is dead since hamstring doesn’t count towards it off GCD
Or ignore pain
Wait I’m thinking test of might
Dreadnaught shockwaves got gutted and you lose too much ST without strength of arms.
Plus SS overpower hits ungy bungy hard sometimes
wet zinc
Dreadnaught shockwaves got gutted and you lose too much ST without strength of a...
fair. but its less prio than cleave and MS right?
teal fossil
ya
teal fossil
fair. but its less prio than cleave and MS right?
this is exactly why
op doesnt have that much of a prio on AOE
so you may as well buff its st
wet zinc
fair enough! Also what to i lose to get rumbling earth? Do i just drop second wind?
wet zinc
this is exactly why
would you happen to know the deal between arterial bleed and one against many aswell?
dim basalt
OAM in lower keys
fossil thistle
fair enough! Also what to i lose to get rumbling earth? Do i just drop second wi...
You can drop second wind but if you find yourself never pressing heroic leap you can opt out of improved leap too
Silly to not use mobility but I’ve seen it
halcyon valve
no hypnotization needed for me, im a chad you see
Based
manic river
Hey fellow arms, what is the opinion this season of crafted 2 hander vs the mythic+ one?
or raid weapon too obvs
I see some high rank arms crafting the weapon
But perhaps it was in order to get it quickly in the season?
latent moss
well 723 and dusk/dawn is better than 720 crafted + bracer
fury crafts a weapon always
so thats prolly why
idk about arms ngl
manic river
Because they play both spec too?