#arms

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warped ether
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it feels like i am back on tinder

limber cove
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is arms now dead with slayers buff ?

charred brook
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No arms is still technically better aoe, and technically higher st in execute for slayer

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But fury just does both at the same time

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So you can definitely still play arms

thick kelp
charred brook
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Yeah pack it up boys it’s dead

olive nest
latent moss
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burst sure

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sustained?

charred brook
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Yeah it is

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But way way less st

latent moss
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idk walhe lost to the fury

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before first boss priory

thick kelp
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yeah taht was before first boss

charred brook
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Walhe sucks unfortunately…

thick kelp
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if the pull lives longer than 30-40s

latent moss
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ye true

thick kelp
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fury creeps up

charred brook
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KIDDING KIDDING

thick kelp
charred brook
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I mean it’s like

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It is more aoe but like not by enough now

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That I would want to give up the single target

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Or the survival

thick kelp
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2% aoe

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for 19.9% ST

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🤔

charred brook
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I mean why not just get both in slayer

shadow ibex
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Buff colossus

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I wonder why they made the change

charred brook
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You would think with how much colossus slams MS their st would be good

latent moss
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its a bugfix

shadow ibex
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Effectively killed any justification to play this

thick kelp
charred brook
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Yeah

thick kelp
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and colossus doesn take EP

latent moss
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and colossus cant take ep

thick kelp
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cuz it cant afford the rage cost

latent moss
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i mean u can

thick kelp
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🗂️

latent moss
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but u cant press exe

thick kelp
latent moss
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sending ms with 1 ep

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not 2

thick kelp
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with EP you send MS on CD

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regardless of EP stacks

charred brook
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Like just play the OF build on any key like floodgate or priory

latent moss
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gg

charred brook
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And you’re fine

thick kelp
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nah

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OF build is

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over rated

charred brook
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I mean sure

thick kelp
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even in those keys

charred brook
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It’s not NEEDED

thick kelp
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you dont need it

latent moss
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idk cba losing deft

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and idc about of

charred brook
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It’s just a little bit of extra aoe for losing like no ST

thick kelp
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Deft drop is cringe

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u lose enrage during BS

charred brook
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Have we run the numbers on single minded fury yet

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We might have a sleeping giant here

thick kelp
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-11%

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afaik

charred brook
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Actually not as much as I thought it would be

rugged cobalt
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So how's arms looking for m+? I see most ppl playing fury, but I really don't like it. How much am I griefing playing arms in like 15-16s

thick kelp
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not at all

slow saddle
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Arms is good

candid pecan
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nah... I'm sorry everybody

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I'm playing slayer fury everywhere now critcake

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its just too good

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hopefully colossus ST buffs soon dander

rugged cobalt
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Something like this for keys then, ye?

viral locust
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warrior > dk

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my bladestorm goes brrrrrrrrr

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we meta yet? shit wrong channel arms 🙁

thick kelp
rugged cobalt
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sks? Sorry I'm a filthy prot main

eager sigil
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skullsplitter

rugged cobalt
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ty

minor gust
# thick kelp over rated

It def feels overrated but the diff also feels so minor it don't matter. If you like OF gameplay slam it. If you don't do play it

pearl wind
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arms needs MS and execute buff

thick kelp
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Needs a rework

placid knot
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I find that arms in m plus is big pump but raid just horrible imo

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Outside of soul hunters

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I play fury for raid

pearl wind
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forgeweaver it can crank too

placid knot
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I hate fury too lol but doing it for raid only

minor gust
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Arms needs God

placid knot
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Just feels like a lot of downtime on bosses compared to fury in raid

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Even with high haste

pearl wind
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fury ST is too good

placid knot
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Anyone in here play skull splitter ?

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I will not ever hit that button

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Rather press slam 20x then hit it

minor gust
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Arms doesn't have downtime

pearl wind
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arms gets owned by downtime like on sal

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if you play slayer jug especially

placid knot
latent moss
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arms needs a rework

minor gust
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Saying something has downtime implys empty globals

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Which arms doesn't have empty globals

latent moss
placid knot
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When you don’t get any rage resets on OP/no sudden death procs

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Feels bad

latent moss
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check mate bozo

minor gust
minor gust
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Your doing something wrong

placid knot
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Idk maybe I’m doing something wrong but I’ve never felt like this outside of this season

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Felt great S1 & S2

minor gust
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Some ppl fuck up and miss the autos which can put you behind rage

placid knot
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Explain to me like I’m an idiot

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Miss an auto?

latent moss
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s3 should feel better

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cause u get more sudden deaths

minor gust
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Also can charge weave if you genuinely get so unlucky you can't press a button

placid knot
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Yah sometimes feels like I literally have no buttons to press so I can probably chalk that up to I am doing something wrong

minor gust
# placid knot Miss an auto?

If you're moving around to much and constantly weaving in and out of melee range you're delaying autos if your not keeping track of swing which can put you behind

placid knot
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Just don’t know what

placid knot
minor gust
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MB I did word it that way

placid knot
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However you could be right

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Anyone know how skull splitter is in raid? Like is it worth it or just shit?

thick kelp
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on colossus?

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mandatory

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on slayer?

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no

placid knot
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debating if I try colossus for raid on arms

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Only tried slayer

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4 set with skull splitter prolly goes crazy with bleeds I’d assume on bosses

thick kelp
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no

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its pretty bad

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unless u can pad on adds

placid knot
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Word

glacial rapids
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I mean according to logs. Colossus is default for like 3 fights.

placid knot
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I’ve only ever tried it on souk hunters

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& I be pumping

minor gust
rapid magnet
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hi crit stream

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buff arms

glacial rapids
outer forge
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surely we see single target buffs tomorrow

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skull splitter damage increased by 100%

latent moss
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0.1% buff

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(sks does 0 damage)

minor gust
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Only thing we're seeing tomorrow is fury nerfs

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Brown class isn't allowed to be strong

latent moss
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no shot fury gets nerfed

minor gust
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It always happens

latent moss
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nah if fury gets nerfed it's legit proof

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they hate warriors

shadow ibex
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Its either that or buff arms

minor gust
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No shot we are left alone the rest of season

shadow ibex
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Fury p much eclipsed arms in any content you'd want to use it with the tier change

minor gust
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Basically

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Before you could argue col AOE is really good for the big pull dungeons

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But now it's over

fresh spire
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buff st for colossus in compensation

shadow ibex
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Thats the hope

minor gust
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Col still does good AOE but Slayer fury all around dmg is just to good

stable fiber
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i still think from a parse/details perspective arms is ONLY better on soulbinder

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thats literally it

fresh spire
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Buff the MS one on colossus tree and we good

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tbf arms isn't "bad" in raid, its fine

minor gust
shadow ibex
fresh spire
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its just not meta defining

minor gust
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Hard to care

stable fiber
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im aware

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that is the only boss warranted to play arms on if you like doing the most damage always

minor gust
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Idk I got my orange parse already for soulbinder idc

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Plus wouldn't be surprised when logs remove the adds from that fight

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Because they are such a worthless pad

stable fiber
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lowkey i have perfect logs

minor gust
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Gaming

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Saw you joined Vodka

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Good guild

stable fiber
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very good guild

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prot warrior too strong unfort

minor gust
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Is what it is

shadow ibex
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Yea its been bad expac for us if your team has a prot war

minor gust
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Eh mostly if you're guild is high enough ranks to care a lot about comp

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We're and avg CE guild so we. Field 2 DPS warriors every tier

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Don't matter

latent moss
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gg

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privileged

minor gust
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Holy

stable fiber
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i have yoda and rl as tanks

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they both play every tank

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gg

minor gust
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Mans living the dream

latent moss
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bro he is blasting dimensius

stable fiber
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ik

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he actually shits on that boss

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so hard

latent moss
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player diff gg

stable fiber
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fury is good in like every phase of te fight

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but not one of the required 17 spec/class combo

minor gust
latent moss
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just be revvez in a top 50 guild

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ez

zenith warren
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is there a fast way to check if I miss gcds in raid or need to do that manually?

pastel orchid
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Logs show top 10 Arms on Mythic Plexus shows about 4.9-4.6m, and top 10 Fury shows about 5.1-5.0m. Question is, which is easier to be better at for the average player?

minor gust
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Both are easy to play

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It's up to you to find what's easiest

pastel orchid
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I guess let me rephrase: which has a higher skill ceiling?

vagrant aspen
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Padding with demolish is highest ceiling rn

minor gust
fresh spire
pastel orchid
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I guess we just play what we like.

minor gust
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That is a common complaint with ppl

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But yeah the answer when it comes to what to play is just what's more fun to you

hasty pumice
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I love the clunky

pearl wind
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i much prefer arms

hasty pumice
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same

spiral coral
pearl wind
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just buff MS and execute for arms only and then it will be more competitive

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doesnt even need a Rework™ for real just some ST buffs

hasty pumice
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TRUE

short oasis
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is the antenna still worth it for st? with like 20%+ miss chance, it looks like ara-kara and arcanocore sim better

hasty pumice
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just dont miss 20% ez

smoky kayak
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it's not bad, but not super reliable on fights w/ heavy movement

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personally I lean towards more consistent options

hasty pumice
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not much of a gamba connoisseur, arch?

short oasis
smoky kayak
short oasis
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i think ill go with arcanocore + arakara one

hasty pumice
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thane fury ExcitedBlushette

fresh spire
short oasis
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but in m+ it should be easier to get antenna balls right?

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or is it again better with pacemaker

hasty pumice
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tbf reap isnt really gambling, its pretty damn consistent

hasty pumice
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and if you get overlaps during big pulls

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mmmmmhm

smoky kayak
short oasis
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btw with reap the storm, is it worth trying slayer in m+?

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or is it better to just stick with colossus everytime

hasty pumice
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col for m+ is still way better for arms

short oasis
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i heard from a friend that on fury you can go slayer in m+ now so i was wondering if arms is in the same boat

hasty pumice
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ye it can

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since you now have 5 chances of reap proccing instead of one

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but arms doesnt have 5 target cleave like fury

smoky kayak
hasty pumice
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I just want Fury to get shot in M+ so I can go back to Arms sadga

short oasis
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tbh, with the bleed focused colosuss build i havent had many stuggles with st in m+

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i lose a tiny bit out on aoe without blademaster and one against many, but i kinda bleed one better

pastel orchid
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It just feels like solving a rubics cube constantly adjusting, fury is just more unga bunga

short oasis
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only issue i have is skull splitter, but swaping to str of arms fixes the problem

spiral coral
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Don’t think any of the “top” arms performers in m+ are using it either

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Not using it as a sole metric but it makes you feel better not using it when you see top players not running it

smoky kayak
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its p minor, I just put it on my Execute bind so I wouldn't have to find a new key for it lol

short oasis
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you dont use execute in colossus?

halcyon valve
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Rarely

smoky kayak
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not enough to care about it

halcyon valve
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If youre good on rage and have nothing else its an ok filler

spiral coral
pastel orchid
# spiral coral Both are just following prio

I know, and maybe it's just me, but it feels like Fury just scales with AoE whereas Arms has like strict req for targets to make one or the other rotations work properly in AoE

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It feels a lot more punishing in that regard

fossil thistle
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I replace the occasional slams with execute when I can

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Otherwise Pepexecute MS and cleave

pastel orchid
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But I will say'

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Slayer build goes brrrrrrr

minor gust
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@hasty pumice Score check am I catching up to you

tacit crystal
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i passed you chatting

minor gust
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I barely did anything last two weeks its not fair

unkempt wren
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Soul hunters, the one fight I get to feel like arms isn't hated xD

weak wave
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Colossus sucks so hard in boss dmg

smoky kayak
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the rend/no jugg version

weak wave
smoky kayak
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I mean fair lol; my general opinion is that Slayer w/out Jugg is kinda like Colossus-lite, but I have heard good things so dracthyr_shrug

silent saddle
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maaaaan I don't want to do it but I'm getting into 15s and it feels reeeaaally bad to have this ST for bosses

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don't make me go Fury sadge

smoky kayak
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Slarms also brings good ST

hasty pumice
timber solar
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I crafted charged claymore last week and this week got mythic fatebound. Rip 2 sparks

balmy kindle
timber solar
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Time to play fury? Ahh

balmy kindle
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On the bright side u unlocked fury okayge

timber solar
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How is fury compared to arms in high keys? Still favor arms?

minor gust
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better than arms

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but both are solid

hasty pumice
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pugs are brutal for me mr arms troll 4

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yesterday we had an eco 16 go beautifully, 10% and last boss left, tank DCs and we overtime

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then almost every monk tank dies randomly at some point in the dungeons

minor gust
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shit happens woulda easily timed a 16 HOA but tank was impatient and lept to 2nd boss while feared groundskeepers were still alive

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so shit pulled 3 gargs into 2nd boss

hasty pumice
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sounds doable

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cope

minor gust
hasty pumice
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just give me windwalker or heal monk, but i dont want tank monk anymore

latent moss
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brew pugs and random deaths

hasty pumice
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then they dont press release when I kite the mobs

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yesterday I saw the monk die, instantly leaped away, kited them like crazy

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and monk just doesnt release

minor gust
latent moss
hasty pumice
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i wanna play arms sadga

latent moss
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ye bro let me die to melees as pwar with fucking shield block

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let me just press shield bloxk and take 9000% less damage from melees

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and still die

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gg

hasty pumice
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i wouldnt know

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never have a prot warrior in my groups due to class stacking

latent moss
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0 damage

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and they are made out of paper

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somehow

hasty pumice
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raging blow57 crashout

latent moss
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then i fucking tank with last season ilvl shield and take 0 dmg

minor gust
void bay
dim basalt
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Ive seen so many warriors turn their back to mobs and get oneshot that way

latent moss
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i spam execute

dim basalt
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War is like THE tank spec that is not allowed to do that

hasty pumice
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arms troll 6 with the wisdom in the morning

dim basalt
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o7

hasty pumice
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das war ein befehl type cat aaah

latent moss
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real for that

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(no idea)

dim basalt
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DER ANGRIFF STEINERS WAR EIN BEFEHL

hasty pumice
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EU peeps wake up, I wanna run 16s before work

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but theres none up

latent moss
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lets gather mobs and not press shield wall

hasty pumice
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wdym you're super tanky during mob gathering!

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you have so much rage clueless

latent moss
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I just gather with shield charge and shield wall

hasty pumice
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like a normal human being

latent moss
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its so free

dim basalt
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We have a dev who keeps complaining about pug tanks not build aggro properly. When we ran a weekly 10 he took aggro off my BRM because he started doing damage like waaay too early and I let him keep it

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He didnt say a single word keks

hasty pumice
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there's a lot of tanks that do weird shit

hasty pumice
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either they RANDOMLY without comms go into a huge pull with BL on cooldown

latent moss
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idc

hasty pumice
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like "yeah lets just do this"

latent moss
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if u cant wait 2s

hasty pumice
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get super impatient or are soooo slow

dim basalt
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Yeah he died and told him that if he takes aggro he can keep it

latent moss
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so

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surely doable with pugs right

hasty pumice
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yeah

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guys

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I saw kira pulled 3 packs into the last eco boss

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let's do that! We have 8 minutes left

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but lets do it

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w-what

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I cant tank that?

vapid goblet
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God bless sub rogue perma tricks

latent moss
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me when i pull 900000000 mobs as pwar and my health bar sits at 100%

hasty pumice
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lets fact check that real quick

latent moss
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cause i pressed shield block

hasty pumice
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🤓

vapid goblet
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well pwarr

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is either you have 100% of your hp

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or you die

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once ignore pain drops

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gg

dim basalt
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ignore pain doesnt do much buddy

hasty pumice
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there's only two types of damage

dim basalt
hasty pumice
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phys damage

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or bleeds

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better play dwarf

latent moss
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ye but it never drops cause of brutal vitality and 90 million thunder blasts

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and infinite rage gen

dim basalt
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IP doesnt have a high prio

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Because it is not as strong as people think

vapid goblet
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Damn i guess this MDI tank was wrong then

latent moss
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ye i mean its perma up no

vapid goblet
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you must surely know better

dim basalt
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But its perma up anyway

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Because of crazy rage gen

latent moss
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y

latent moss
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brutal vitality thunder blast gg

dim basalt
hasty pumice
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plot twist, he was the mdi tank

latent moss
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demo shout 2 millisecond cd (i got 5 tb resets in a row)

hasty pumice
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since when is the spell reflect WA so bad btw? I know all reflects by now and dont need it but

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it used to be so good

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now it works half the time on the same casts

latent moss
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ye i was wondering the same thing recently

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i remember in df

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u just had the wa and pressed sr when bar was red

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and u would reflect

hasty pumice
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ye

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now I target a mob that's casting at me

latent moss
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maybe blizz did sum

hasty pumice
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and it doesnt pop up

dim basalt
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It worked fine last season still no?

hasty pumice
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eh

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not as good as in DF

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in DF even if it was 500 km away

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it showed you

latent moss
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they removed all the reflects chatting

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nelth lair 3rd boss

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toxic retch reflect

hasty pumice
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ngl

latent moss
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all of nelth lair actually

hasty pumice
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I think some reflects should be removed lmao

latent moss
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last boss taunt reflect tank buster

hasty pumice
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I saw critcake taunt the 3rd hoa boss occasionally

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just to take the cast reflect for more DPS

dim basalt
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Reflect was giga op in S1 GB

hasty pumice
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and then run away

latent moss
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just let us reflect annoying casts like disarm on 1st boss streets and im happy

dim basalt
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Rather cage

hasty pumice
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I'M happy I finally found out about holding bladestorm

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you can skip cage

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just use bladestorm

dim basalt
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Yeah but holding BS feels bad

latent moss
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seeing Impound w/e its called REFLECTED

hasty pumice
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eeeh

latent moss
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is peak

hasty pumice
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its not the worst

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your ST damage is still huge (on fury at least)

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reflecting huge DoTs is always my fav

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seeing spell reflect at 10% dps after a pull in DF

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was peak

latent moss
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last boss ataldazar

dim basalt
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Just meld it and let someone else deal with the mechanic

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5head

latent moss
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even if u didnt reflect u could just self heal urself

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s3 df fury

pearl wind
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give demolish a 50% DR while channeling thanks for attending my ted talk

latent moss
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vers stack bt spam incident

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smolderon ring enraged regen incident

hasty pumice
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50 words

latent moss
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(full healing every 2 globals)

hasty pumice
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and now

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fury feels like it has 0 healing outside of IV

latent moss
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ye cause cshb is useless and we never press bt

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gg

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df s1 pre cshb nerf

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5 cshb rolling = infinite hps

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fury still giga low on ehrps im pretty sure

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not as funny as df but still

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bro i remember trying arms on fyrakk

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and just being perma 0 hp

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healer diff gg

latent moss
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i think this is mostly a slayer thing cause death drive got nuked for w/e reason

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u can def feel the difference in survivability as slayer arms and colo

hasty pumice
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Colo is giga tanky rn ngl

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All the fervor healing and partially demolish DR

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I really love the parry too from arms cd compared to fury letting you cheese some Phys stuff

smoky kayak
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I mean it's not a lot but it's not nothing either

balmy kindle
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Now blizz can we get a 10% buff on mortal strike or adjustments on Colo arms tier set tqvmokayge

hasty pumice
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From 2 guaranteed MS crits to 1

dim basalt
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Change it back to 2 and make SS only consume 1 stack copium

hasty pumice
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Or just give us more 2-3 target bosses

dim basalt
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Why not both

halcyon valve
dim basalt
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Oh yeah that too

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Make col shine in aoe

halcyon valve
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At the same time revert bb to 10% per point

balmy kindle
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I never understood why Colo tier set needed nerfs as well, hero talent was never like overloaded keks

dim basalt
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Just stray nerfs from prot

latent moss
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nothing we arent used to

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(s1 incident)

dim basalt
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#MakeBladestormGreatAgain

balmy kindle
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Surely apex talents will solve this guys copium

dim basalt
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Dance of Death reworked into apex talent

daring heron
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bladestorm is already pretty great just press n and spec fury

inland drift
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:)))))))))))))

inland drift
daring heron
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what's that?

balmy kindle
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Arms bs is not good keks lasts way too long but does mid dmg

latent moss
thick kelp
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Guys

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is 16mins enough time

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to finish eda last two bosses and 40% trash

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in a 12

vagrant aspen
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Yea with reap

latent moss
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need 50 at least

daring heron
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/abandon angle

hasty pumice
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Crit, how sad would you be if fury was shot and arms would reign?

daring heron
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very

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rework arms first

hasty pumice
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Do you dislike the flow of gameplay or just how awkward the talent tree is set up?

daring heron
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yes

hasty pumice
astral yarrow
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warrior in general just kinda blows

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killed the fury niche week 3 of nerubar and nerfed arms execute before 11.1 release 🙂

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Fury execute being competetive with arms because of pressing BT in 11.1 was criminal

hasty pumice
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I personally love how arms plays out

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It feels more like an always planning ahead than just brrrr

fresh spire
pearl wind
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I like arms play style now, it's just in a weird place with tuning

vapid goblet
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Legion classic waiting room

pearl wind
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Fury has way better ST/prio and constant 5 target, meanwhile arms has to use a CD to hit 2 target and has dogwater execute and lukewarm ST overall. Demolish hits great in big pulls but doesn't matter in overall

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Just weird that arms doesn't have strong ST/execute

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Kind of its whole theme

latent moss
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arms has

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0 aoe execute

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absolutely 0

pearl wind
#

Prot execute cranks

latent moss
#

ye its wild

#

how prot has better aoe execute than fucking arms

sharp tendon
rugged cobalt
#

So as a filty prot main who just wants to fk around in some keys as Colo arms. If line some shit up if they're close, otherwise just send on CD. Warbreak into Demo always. Cleave > MS > OP in AoE and just.. zug?

Do I need sweeping up for Demo in AoE?

sharp tendon
#

i got like 37% crit and still my mortal strike crits 257 times of 456 hits in a dungeon rrr

latent moss
#

first 2 hits can be cleaved. last hit is aoe anyway

astral yarrow
#

Its not bad, but for the amount you have to invest it is

balmy kindle
#

Without marks or juggernaut execute hits like a wet noodle

thick kelp
#

kek

astral yarrow
#

i hate warrior

slow saddle
#

Not much sexyness

#

In sexecute talentless

dim basalt
hasty pumice
#

Please censor that word in the future

slow saddle
#

Imagine havin execute

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Just fuck

#

Like its 2005

quick badge
#

Surely reworking the spec is top of blizzard's priority list clueless

slow saddle
#

Delete jug + col

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Buff to compensate done

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Clunk gone

#

Oh y delete am

dim basalt
slow saddle
#

No hoops no nuttin just dmf

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And yes remove am

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100%

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Let us have cds that align

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And as col demos first hit is wb

silent saddle
#

Me after I've been chain-queueing for over an hour ...

limber cove
#

quick question guys what does slayer arms need to be has good has fury slayer in aoe m+, the reap proc are like day and night

thick kelp
#

fury can proc reap on 5 targets with rb cleaves

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arms op can only hit 2 targets at a time

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and when its chance per target hit

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this is the result

limber cove
#

would be good if they include cleave in the 4p bonus proc

grave mulch
#

WHAT A WOWHEAD POST

candid pecan
#

yeah, I @ our boomkin in the guild discord dander

olive nest
grave mulch
#

When we shutting down?

void bay
#

Pretty sure blizzard isnt aware of this baby crying spec/class discord shutting down thing, and if they do it will just be some community manager rather than actual devs...and they all will be like:

glacial rapids
#

Some classes just can't handle being middle of the pack or lower for a season.

#

Like a baby with alligator tears...

void bay
#

feral is apparently pretty good right now, but you cant stand at range and aoe the entire instance with one button like fat owl

glacial rapids
#

No, you actually have to engage with mechanics and play the piano.

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God forbid

latent moss
#

ye but thats just melee vs ranged

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in m+

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ranged u can go afk

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melee has 9000 frontals

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and shit to interrupt

glacial rapids
#

Meanwhile the bm keeps getting hit by the one goblin that jumps out with a cone frontal in operation...

void bay
#

hey dont shame me

spiral coral
#

Actually really fun as a mage if you play as a team player. Not just lost in CDs

small carbon
fossil thistle
#

Warrior brains to small we wouldn’t have thought about that

olive nest
#

What’s thinking?

silent saddle
#

I feel like not enough people appreciate the mortal strike anti-healing effect in keys

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HoA bigtime, floodgate with those 6 swamp elementals

glacial rapids
#

All people care about in m+ is dps, deaths and interrupts.

silent saddle
#

yeah

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I wish there was SOME other scoring system that helped separate you from others.

like in League when you go to porofessor this external website they use, it'll tell you info about each person. "aggressive early lane, wards a lot, etc. etc."

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would be cool if you could see a summary of a person. "kicks a lot, doesn't die often", etc.

glacial rapids
#

Well, an interrupt and cc counter for each person would go along way. Along with personal deaths.

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Hold em accountable

spiral coral
#

It’s fucking gross the keys my mage gets accepted to that it shouldn’t and the keys my warrior gets denied to that it should get accepted

#

I should do a study

quick badge
#

I haven't applied to keys in ages, too depressing sadge

silent saddle
silent saddle
#

😂

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not far off from that

olive nest
#

Works everytime

zinc relic
hasty pumice
zinc relic
#

atleast its consistent as we go up

glacial rapids
#

Gotta remember there are fewer and fewer groups doing 14s and up but still tons of dps trying to get in.

hasty pumice
#

Yeah I'm aware

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I didn't complain

zinc relic
#

im very aware of this, just fun to complain

#

i did

hasty pumice
#

I'm no arcane mage and it's fine

hasty pumice
zinc relic
#

thing is i just list my own key 99.9% of the time easiest way to climb

hasty pumice
#

True but I'm too lazy to go back to 15 after every fail

zinc relic
#

resi 14, np 1000 apps back to 15 eventually try again

hasty pumice
#

So I just lazily apply

zinc relic
#

2 sides of the coin here, you dont complain and apply. I complain and list my own. ying and yang

hasty pumice
zinc relic
#

i now understand the universe

hasty pumice
#

If you do, tell me, glorp glib glarbidi glurp

slow saddle
amber phoenix
spiral coral
hasty pumice
#

Average arms warrior

lapis ridge
#

imagine u don't take that train and stay arms

fickle drift
#

xeosREAP OF STORM ENJOYER reap

halcyon valve
#

Call me crazy but reap the storm is incredibly boring

smoky kayak
slow saddle
#

Crazy

sharp wyvern
#

did the boomie discord realy close down cause ret palas set a trend ? keks

slow saddle
#

Its mini bladestorms

zenith dagger
#

Crazy

sharp wyvern
#

meanwhile we do nothing and get buffs

sharp wyvern
#

guildie told me

spiral coral
#

Why don’t Monks do the same

river ridge
#

Tbh kinda surprised there hasn't been more class tuning since RWF ended

sacred zodiac
fresh spire
#

L they should

#

take the piss out of ret mains

sacred zodiac
#

guildie probably saw the wowhead post and decided its time to spread misinformation

fresh spire
#

we love some misinformation

minor gust
#

Reap the storm should be bigger that is my only complaint

#

Give me a new stat area increase

#

Let's add more arpg elements

silent saddle
slow saddle
#

Accordin to range players

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And dks

silent saddle
#

Just give arms more st 🙏🏻

#

All I ask

slow saddle
#

The fact that i have to game around 15 jugger stacks that drop off

#

Yes

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More hazzle, less rewards

#

Still, we love arms

#

😍

smoky kayak
#

doompost memes when things are bad

#

shitpost happy memes when things are good

dry canopy
smoky kayak
#

still proud of this one

#

it's actually not a complete copy/pasta; there are a few gems hidden throughout

fresh spire
#

the good days

outer forge
#

take me back

dry canopy
#

So do we think that 8% buff this coming Tuesday will bring arms back on par. I’ve been doing mega dmg on arms and it’s felt fine in 16 keys. Me think 8% will be huge

outer forge
#

8% buff? are you trolling or is that a real thing?

dry canopy
outer forge
#

i need a picture with todays newspaper in that image to prove it's from today

loud wadi
#

imagine stay arms right now

dry canopy
#

That’s what I’m asking for everyone is sending it to me. I’m driving rn

dry canopy
slim iron
outer forge
#

nice try!

#

that's from 2018

slim iron
#

🤣

outer forge
#

the way i almost crashed out when i didn't see warrior on there before seeing the date

candid pecan
#

same

dry canopy
candid pecan
#

then I saw 5% nerf on BM so was like WAIT

#

checked date 🐀

dry canopy
#

So it is real then. @candid pecan @outer forge I got it from reputable people

rapid bronze
#

I thought the ret discord actually created a balance channel and shut it down as a joke

pearl wind
#

I heard from a very reputable source that it was actually a ret discord mod that secretly infiltrated the dreamgrove until he got mod access then closed the boomkin channel to make it look like paladins weren't the only ones tripping like that

rapid bronze
#

3.5 hrs left for massive arms buffs

dry canopy
slow saddle
#

Dont need buff

rapid bronze
#

weekend

slow saddle
#

Needs god

dry canopy
rapid bronze
#

none yet but we have 3.5 hrs till they go home for the weekend

river ridge
rapid bronze
#

I dont think it works that way

river ridge
#

But also Game Devs clock out at 4PM most days anyways

#

So...

rapid bronze
#

well those are two opposing philosophies

river ridge
#

Not really. Salary life be crazy.

rapid bronze
#

a @daring heron in the wild!

slim iron
#

How were the rets tripping?

river ridge
slim iron
#

Toucheě

rapid bronze
#

when did all the fury warriors switch to slayer in keys

#

or was it always like that

river ridge
#

Tuesday

hasty pumice
#

holy fuck

#

I think arms is unplayable compared to fury

river ridge
#

unannounced change to 4P for slayer has made it so they can reap the storm like 67% of the time when pressing RB at 5 targets (someone check my math?)

hasty pumice
#

just did an arms eco

#

ew

#

can we please nerf fury

dry canopy
rapid bronze
#

I found eco was actually one of the more fun overalls keys as arms

#

that and flood

hasty pumice
#

it is

#

but every prio target and boss

#

lives ages

#

you just pad hard

rapid bronze
#

yeah it's great

hasty pumice
#

no I'm psure I wouldve timed this 16

#

if I went fury instead of arms

#

cause our boss DPS sucked ass

pearl wind
hasty pumice
#

the aoe diff is barely noticeable between arms and fury and the ST is ages away

#

I'm sad

pearl wind
#

the ST is miles away yeah

hasty pumice
#

I was like

#

"no way I deal that little aoe right?"

rapid bronze
#

no I have to item restore all the mastery gear I didn't bother keeping

hasty pumice
#

nah I have my fury equipped for raid anw

#

fury is my raid spec

#

I got gear for both

#

muh fury stats

pearl wind
#

my fury has mastery as lowest secondary and it still gaps my arms despite zero practice on fury this expac and having just intensely played arms for some time

hasty pumice
#

yeah i feel disgusted at myself

#

played arms all the way to resi 15, last season exclusively

#

and after these few fury days

#

I feel like I'm dogshit on arms even though its the spec not me copium

#

also tank not stacking the mobs but

#

thats another story

pearl wind
#

i played arms exclusively to resi 14 this season and then swapped fury like 2 days ago with ZERO practice time and within 1 day im gapping my arms

#

despite low mastery

#

it's just wrong

latent moss
#

welcome to arms

#

get used to it

pearl wind
forest perch
#

Arms life is tough

#

But we play it cause we love it spec

pearl wind
#

yea it's just like hard to justify after +15

#

and i dont really like playing fury

magic canopy
#

Arms is the abandoned skeleton at the bottom of the pool

ripe igloo
#

Okay, what is currently better in M+, seems its close between collosus arms and slayer fury

spiral coral
pearl wind
#

i dont like fury playstyle

#

i like the slow deliberate play of arms and not the frenetic carpal tunnel frenzy of fury (which you know is thematic and all)

spiral coral
#

Slayer Arms/Slayer Fury are pretty interchangeable to me

#

Except with fury going ape shit right now

outer forge
#

i don't think the apm on arms is that much lower than fury these days

spiral coral
#

Fury feels higher for sure

outer forge
#

yeah, it definitely is still higher, but arms doens't feel nearly as slow as it use to

spiral coral
#

I’m kinda bored of colossus and this edition of slayer fury in m+ is super refreshing

#

And mountain thane can kick rocks

outer forge
#

i'm such a hoe for crit. big colossus enjoyer

dire hinge
#

fury sounds faster bc rampage/whirlwind making multiple hit noises, but yeah it's very similar to arms in APM because we're both gcd-bound

radiant dawn
#

i feel like people say fury is super high apm because they slam their keys 30 times between gcds

#

unless there's a mechanic giving them 0.3 gcd i have no idea where that comes from

fresh spire
#

Fury is a little faster because of Enraged Haste

dim basalt
#

RB RB RB Rampage RB RB RB

smoky kayak
#

unbothered. moisturized. happy. in my lane. focused. flourishing.

dire hinge
fresh spire
spiral coral
smoky kayak
#

actually yes

spiral coral
#

knew it

smoky kayak
#

I literally just made four carnitas tacos

#

which I am about to inhale

spiral coral
#

my minds being blown that people use shit like this

“There it is lads...the opener

#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=20 Blade of Justice,Divine Toll,Divine Hammer,Execution Sentence,Wake of Ashes, Wake of Ashes,Judgment,Final Verdict,Hammer of Wrath,Final Verdict,Blade of Justice,Final Verdict,Final Verdict,Hammer of Wrath,Final Verdict”

spiral coral
#

exactly

smoky kayak
dry frost
#

When you could macro rotation on one button on annihilator build

spiral coral
#

“What does that button do”

“Everything”

dry frost
#

Pretty much

vital night
#

please help

spiral coral
#

Ok

vital night
#

im a mage and warrior it's insane

spiral coral
#

Same

vital night
#

i even dont undestarnd how it works

#

shit

#

haha

spiral coral
#

me either

vital night
#

any advice?

#

i feel you bro

#

haha

spiral coral
#

Press buttons more and go to wowhead for guides?

vital night
#

sure

#

but it's very diferent way to play

halcyon valve
spiral coral
#

Think they’re playing classic

latent moss
#

gg

vital night
#

for instance in a caster the key is to keep always the target far away and manage, in my case , the mana and the coldown for the main spells, and be a turret😆

#

but a warrior needs more skills

#

in my opinion

#

it's harder

finite grotto
#

I played Hunter in S2. Melee is way harder to perform well imo

#

Warrior just too fun though, don’t care if it’s not as good! There is a reason i have most /played on Warrior haha

dire hinge
candid pecan
#

nice colossus Arms buffs

#

nothing... again

grave mulch
#

No arms buffs 😭

finite grotto
#

Notes?

dire hinge
#

if you have any specific questions about Arms itself, feel free to ask them here and people are usually pretty generous with insights ❤️ welcome to warrior

bronze ember
#

Hello guys, is this server also for mop ?

shadow ibex
dire hinge
grave mulch
#

Hrothmar don’t tell people we are nice dudeee come onnnn

grave mulch
#

Not very warrior like clueless

dire hinge
grave mulch
vital night
#

just playing right now MOP

dire hinge
#

unironically arms is usually very supportive and inclusive of each other. If someone's being an asshole they're usually the odd one out

#

dunno why that came through but im gonna leave it

finite grotto
#

Just be thankful this isn’t the survival hunter discord

grave mulch
#

Or ret pally

finite grotto
#

Place is full of actual weirdos, half of which don’t play the spec even or the class

#

They are lame for a different reason 🤣

dire hinge
#

this one you're currently in is mostly Retail focused

daring heron
#

ARMS IS SO BACK (in pvp)

dire hinge
silent saddle
#

disliked that comment

grave mulch
#

sadge critcake

glacial rapids
#

Bruh... no boofs.

silent saddle
#

Critcake: Arms troll #69

grave mulch
#

Lock it down

smoky kayak
#

sorry too busy reaping the storm

shadow ibex
#

It will be very funny when by end of patch arms ends up where it was before 8%

glacial rapids
#

They really want all arms to switch to fury this season

spiral coral
smoky kayak
grave mulch
#

Hold strong

#

The post names are funny af tho

smoky kayak
#

peepoFat🌮

spiral coral
#

BM getting a 4% increase across the board is wild

finite grotto
#

BM stronk

#

On the flip side it’s easy to play 🤓

rapid bronze
#

They have got to be joking with this tuning

dire hinge
#

peepoHappyFisher my one button BM rotation just got 4% stronger

#

we are so back

minor gust
finite grotto
#

Thought colo arms might get a bump in ST but it’s all good

spiral coral
#

Mages crashing out

#

At least Frost is

dire hinge
#

our shadow priest is thrashing 😂

spiral coral
spiral coral
silent valve
#

Im tanking on M+ and raiding as Arms couse of the stats being more similar than fury but im lacking some damage on mythic raid as Arms on ST 😓

#

No buffs tho...

dire hinge
#

peepoHappy we dont need buffs, just play better than your raidmates

shrewd adder
#

pov blizzard : paladin complain = buff / drood complain = buff / warrrior complain = buff (in pvp bozo)

silent valve
dire hinge
#

unless everyone in your guild is pumping, MOST players arent really impacted by these changes imho. Just keep learning the spec/fights gooder.

#

just happy we aren't nerfed further for now tbh

silent valve
#

Nerfed as arms? Why tho

dire hinge
#

we had an unannounced change to how our set procs, so they could just roll that back...

vital night
#

one question, for dps in retail wich spec is better fury or arms?

dire hinge
vital night
#

ok thank you

finite grotto
#

I have not tried fury yet cause I also play arms in PvP

vital night
#

arms forever in this group I know but i really apreciate the truth

#

😆

warped spade
dire hinge
#

honestly learning both is good in the long run, same with Prot. Being good "at warrior" is usually a very solid idea

#

easier to get into content as Prot happydolphin

outer holly
#

Nothing wrong with more tanks!

finite grotto
#

I plan on playing all specs this season for sure!

minor gust
dire hinge
#

yeah, it takes some patience and farming, but getting your stats "close enough" is perfectly fine, you can fix gear swaps with time + more drops

dawn root
dire hinge
#

ilvl king anyways

dawn root
#

Now I am just labbing fury for fun

minor gust
#

4 weeks in should def have everything you need from m+

river ridge
#

I'm still missing Streets Neck for Arms and Prot =/

#

But my stats are close enough

dry frost
glacial rapids
#

Might be learning Fury this weekend... I'm breaking...

silent valve
silent valve
minor gust
river ridge
minor gust
#

When in reality

#

Secondaries barely matter

silent valve
spiral coral
#

Doing your rotation properly/not dying to stuff > gear

rapid bronze
#

People are approaching the fury switch as though they need to eke out every little percentage of optimization like they do with arms because the spec is trash

#

You’ll be fine with mastery rings and necks fury is properly tuned

silent valve
#

Will try tho, thanks a lot guys

minor gust
#

95% of your dmg from gear is just ilvl min maxing stats is the last couple % most of the time even less

silent valve
#

Also as warriors weapon ilvl is better than anything else... As allways...

minor gust
#

Pretty much

silent valve
#

Gosh i should have crafted a weapon...

mortal niche
#

stay strong, no craft

#

never craft

minor gust
#

Good luck with that

river ridge
#

I always craft weapon. Worst case you get a good off hand for Fury.

pearl wind
#

and you can instantly full upgrade a hero piece for valorstones for fury OH

minor gust
#

Yeah no reason to ever not craft a wep at the start of a tier unless you're lucky and get from first vault and you have no intention of playing fury

vital night
#

one question more, for leveling and undestranding the class, the spell bar is correct?

#

I think i could improve the damage

hasty vault
dire hinge
vital night
#

sorry

#

I didnt know

dire hinge
#

all good! it's just a much different version of the game

dire hinge
#

i'd recommend joining the Classic discord and seeing if they have people who can help with classic-specific quesitons:
https://discord.gg/RbCZJtw

pearl wind
#

also everyones keybinds and stuff is gonna be totally different ergonomically

vital night
#

ok I'll go there

dire hinge
#

i hope you find answers to things!

pearl wind
#

for me like 1-6 and shift+ 1-6 is keyboard and then 7-12 and shift 7-12 is all mouse buttons

#

left wasd hand can reach to 6 / shift 6 everything to the right of that is mouse

dire hinge
#

yee i use 1-5 because i have two brain cells fighting for third place

vital night
#

thanks for your patience 😆 you are very kind! see you guys

river ridge
#

Yeah its just a feel thing. Like I don't use numbers at all. All of my keybinds are letters or my mouse.

minor gust
#

Playing wow without an MMO mouse is illegal

dire hinge
#

my bindings are cursed, but they're my curse

pearl wind
#

haha i dont use mmo mouse i only have 2 buttons + scroll up/down

river ridge
minor gust
#

Dude I couldn't survive without my 12 button mouse

pearl wind
#

9 and 10 are Z and X

dire hinge
#

i wonder if i can find my old diagram i had from last season...

minor gust
#

But tbf I mostly only use 9 the other 3 I don't use often

vital night
dire hinge
#

this is OLD (note puzzlebox) but it works for my brain and that's all that matters.

river ridge
#

What's H? Ping?

dire hinge
#

yee

#

i want to start folding in Q/E, but eeehhhh

#

none of this matters anyways

vital night
dire hinge
#

unlisted is shift + space which is mount. Honestly one of the best quality of life bindings

toxic elm
#

oh are we doing keybinds again lol

dire hinge
#

just for shits and giggles

toxic elm