#arms
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is arms now dead with slayers buff ?
No arms is still technically better aoe, and technically higher st in execute for slayer
But fury just does both at the same time
So you can definitely still play arms
Dont bother its so dead...
Yeah pack it up boys it’s dead

is it better aoe tho
burst sure
sustained?
yeah taht was before first boss
Walhe sucks unfortunately…
if the pull lives longer than 30-40s
ye true
fury creeps up
KIDDING KIDDING
washed..
I mean it’s like
It is more aoe but like not by enough now
That I would want to give up the single target
Or the survival
I mean why not just get both in slayer
You would think with how much colossus slams MS their st would be good
its a bugfix
Effectively killed any justification to play this
MS dam is locked behind EP
Yeah
and colossus doesn take EP
and colossus cant take ep
cuz it cant afford the rage cost
i mean u can
🗂️
but u cant press exe
Like just play the OF build on any key like floodgate or priory
gg
And you’re fine
I mean sure
even in those keys
It’s not NEEDED
you dont need it
It’s just a little bit of extra aoe for losing like no ST
Have we run the numbers on single minded fury yet
We might have a sleeping giant here
Actually not as much as I thought it would be
So how's arms looking for m+? I see most ppl playing fury, but I really don't like it. How much am I griefing playing arms in like 15-16s
not at all
Arms is good
nah... I'm sorry everybody
I'm playing slayer fury everywhere now 
its just too good
hopefully colossus ST buffs soon 
Something changed?
Something like this for keys then, ye?
warrior > dk
my bladestorm goes brrrrrrrrr
we meta yet? shit wrong channel arms 🙁
dreadnaught for sks or SoA and One against many for Art bleedings
sks? Sorry I'm a filthy prot main
skullsplitter
ty
It def feels overrated but the diff also feels so minor it don't matter. If you like OF gameplay slam it. If you don't do play it
Needs a rework
I find that arms in m plus is big pump but raid just horrible imo
Outside of soul hunters
I play fury for raid
forgeweaver it can crank too
I hate fury too lol but doing it for raid only
Arms needs God
Just feels like a lot of downtime on bosses compared to fury in raid
Even with high haste
fury ST is too good
Anyone in here play skull splitter ?
I will not ever hit that button
Rather press slam 20x then hit it
Arms doesn't have downtime
Is this genuine or am I being trolled lol
arms needs a rework
Saying something has downtime implys empty globals
Which arms doesn't have empty globals
ep colossus no critical thinking
check mate bozo
Caught
You should never have empty globals especially Slayer in raid
Your doing something wrong
Idk maybe I’m doing something wrong but I’ve never felt like this outside of this season
Felt great S1 & S2
Some ppl fuck up and miss the autos which can put you behind rage
Also can charge weave if you genuinely get so unlucky you can't press a button
Yah sometimes feels like I literally have no buttons to press so I can probably chalk that up to I am doing something wrong
If you're moving around to much and constantly weaving in and out of melee range you're delaying autos if your not keeping track of swing which can put you behind
Just don’t know what
My brain defaulted to literally just missing the AA lmao, like some classic Andy
MB I did word it that way
However you could be right
Anyone know how skull splitter is in raid? Like is it worth it or just shit?
debating if I try colossus for raid on arms
Only tried slayer
4 set with skull splitter prolly goes crazy with bleeds I’d assume on bosses
Word
I mean according to logs. Colossus is default for like 3 fights.
Doesn't mean it's not bad


Only thing we're seeing tomorrow is fury nerfs
Brown class isn't allowed to be strong
no shot fury gets nerfed
It always happens
Its either that or buff arms
No shot we are left alone the rest of season
Fury p much eclipsed arms in any content you'd want to use it with the tier change
Basically
Before you could argue col AOE is really good for the big pull dungeons
But now it's over
buff st for colossus in compensation
Thats the hope
Col still does good AOE but Slayer fury all around dmg is just to good
i still think from a parse/details perspective arms is ONLY better on soulbinder
thats literally it
Yeah but that fight isn't real
That would be best move if they really were paying attention
its just not meta defining
Hard to care
im aware
that is the only boss warranted to play arms on if you like doing the most damage always
Idk I got my orange parse already for soulbinder idc
Plus wouldn't be surprised when logs remove the adds from that fight
Because they are such a worthless pad
lowkey i have perfect logs
Is what it is
Yea its been bad expac for us if your team has a prot war
Eh mostly if you're guild is high enough ranks to care a lot about comp
We're and avg CE guild so we. Field 2 DPS warriors every tier
Don't matter
eroka played all bosses cause his tanks are otps
gg
privileged
Holy
Mans living the dream
bro he is blasting dimensius
player diff gg
fury is good in like every phase of te fight
but not one of the required 17 spec/class combo
I almost got scouted into Consequence Banshers guild, but they went with another warrior from a good HOF guild which is understandable
is there a fast way to check if I miss gcds in raid or need to do that manually?
Logs show top 10 Arms on Mythic Plexus shows about 4.9-4.6m, and top 10 Fury shows about 5.1-5.0m. Question is, which is easier to be better at for the average player?
I guess let me rephrase: which has a higher skill ceiling?
Padding with demolish is highest ceiling rn
Hate to be a fence sitter but when I think about it their both pretty close skill ceiling wise. Both have minor nuances that good players can take advantage of. But I will have to lean more towards arms having the higher ceiling
Fair enough. Arms seems clunkier so '
I guess we just play what we like.
That is a common complaint with ppl
But yeah the answer when it comes to what to play is just what's more fun to you
I love the clunky
i much prefer arms
same
Embrace the clunky
just buff MS and execute for arms only and then it will be more competitive
doesnt even need a Rework™ for real just some ST buffs
TRUE
is the antenna still worth it for st? with like 20%+ miss chance, it looks like ara-kara and arcanocore sim better
just dont miss 20% ez
it's not bad, but not super reliable on fights w/ heavy movement
personally I lean towards more consistent options
not much of a gamba connoisseur, arch?
Well thats true, but i wouldnt be suprised if on somefights i would have more than 20%
not if I can avoid it lol
i think ill go with arcanocore + arakara one
thane fury 

but in m+ it should be easier to get antenna balls right?
or is it again better with pacemaker
tbf reap isnt really gambling, its pretty damn consistent
I can just say, antenna feels really good in M+
and if you get overlaps during big pulls
mmmmmhm
I only gamble unimportant things, like my health, money, and relationships
but never DPS 
btw with reap the storm, is it worth trying slayer in m+?
or is it better to just stick with colossus everytime
col for m+ is still way better for arms
i heard from a friend that on fury you can go slayer in m+ now so i was wondering if arms is in the same boat
ye it can
since you now have 5 chances of reap proccing instead of one
but arms doesnt have 5 target cleave like fury
I think Colossus is likely better in terms of raw dam (all aoe, no ST), but Slayer is a lot better than people give it credit for - wahle was posting some snapshots in here earlier if you wanna search back through his comments
I just want Fury to get shot in M+ so I can go back to Arms 
tbh, with the bleed focused colosuss build i havent had many stuggles with st in m+
i lose a tiny bit out on aoe without blademaster and one against many, but i kinda bleed one better
It just feels like solving a rubics cube constantly adjusting, fury is just more unga bunga
only issue i have is skull splitter, but swaping to str of arms fixes the problem
Both are just following prio
I dropped sks tbh
Don’t think any of the “top” arms performers in m+ are using it either
Not using it as a sole metric but it makes you feel better not using it when you see top players not running it
its p minor, I just put it on my Execute bind so I wouldn't have to find a new key for it lol
you dont use execute in colossus?
Rarely
not enough to care about it
If youre good on rage and have nothing else its an ok filler
I can’t not have rallying cry ok 
I know, and maybe it's just me, but it feels like Fury just scales with AoE whereas Arms has like strict req for targets to make one or the other rotations work properly in AoE
It feels a lot more punishing in that regard
@hasty pumice Score check am I catching up to you
i passed you chatting
Fucking respect sir /salute
Soul hunters, the one fight I get to feel like arms isn't hated xD
I tried both in M+ (+10) and Slayer (no Rend) feels so much better. It's insane how you are a bit behind in trash fights but being top dps in boss fights.
Colossus sucks so hard in boss dmg
I've heard good things recently abou the traditional Slayer build too, if you wanna try it sometime
the rend/no jugg version
I love the absence of two buttons but yeah I will take a look.
I mean fair lol; my general opinion is that Slayer w/out Jugg is kinda like Colossus-lite, but I have heard good things so 
maaaaan I don't want to do it but I'm getting into 15s and it feels reeeaaally bad to have this ST for bosses
don't make me go Fury 
Slarms also brings good ST
I'm the same with one 15++
I crafted charged claymore last week and this week got mythic fatebound. Rip 2 sparks
Can always just use arms slayer 
Time to play fury? Ahh
On the bright side u unlocked fury 
How is fury compared to arms in high keys? Still favor arms?
i wanna join the 3.3k club
pugs are brutal for me mr arms troll 4
yesterday we had an eco 16 go beautifully, 10% and last boss left, tank DCs and we overtime
then almost every monk tank dies randomly at some point in the dungeons
shit happens woulda easily timed a 16 HOA but tank was impatient and lept to 2nd boss while feared groundskeepers were still alive
so shit pulled 3 gargs into 2nd boss
typical
just give me windwalker or heal monk, but i dont want tank monk anymore
brew pugs and random deaths
then they dont press release when I kite the mobs
yesterday I saw the monk die, instantly leaped away, kited them like crazy
and monk just doesnt release
Bad brews are always really noticeable
pwar pugs and dying to melee as the most broken phys defensive tank
i wanna play arms 
ye bro let me die to melees as pwar with fucking shield block
let me just press shield bloxk and take 9000% less damage from melees
and still die
gg
i dont get how pug pwars can be so bad
0 damage
and they are made out of paper
somehow
raging blow57 crashout
then i fucking tank with last season ilvl shield and take 0 dmg

do you press your buttons though?
Ive seen so many warriors turn their back to mobs and get oneshot that way
i spam execute
War is like THE tank spec that is not allowed to do that
arms troll 6 with the wisdom in the morning
o7
das war ein befehl type cat aaah
DER ANGRIFF STEINERS WAR EIN BEFEHL
lets gather mobs and not press shield wall
I just gather with shield charge and shield wall
like a normal human being
its so free
We have a dev who keeps complaining about pug tanks not build aggro properly. When we ran a weekly 10 he took aggro off my BRM because he started doing damage like waaay too early and I let him keep it
He didnt say a single word 
there's a lot of tanks that do weird shit
i just let them die
either they RANDOMLY without comms go into a huge pull with BL on cooldown
idc
like "yeah lets just do this"
if u cant wait 2s
get super impatient or are soooo slow
Yeah he died and told him that if he takes aggro he can keep it
i saw kira do that pull
so
surely doable with pugs right
yeah
guys
I saw kira pulled 3 packs into the last eco boss
let's do that! We have 8 minutes left
but lets do it
w-what
I cant tank that?
God bless sub rogue perma tricks
me when i pull 900000000 mobs as pwar and my health bar sits at 100%
lets fact check that real quick
cause i pressed shield block
🤓
well pwarr
is either you have 100% of your hp
or you die
once ignore pain drops
gg
ignore pain doesnt do much buddy
there's only two types of damage

ye but it never drops cause of brutal vitality and 90 million thunder blasts
and infinite rage gen
Damn i guess this MDI tank was wrong then
ye i mean its perma up no
you must surely know better
y
brutal vitality thunder blast gg
ye
plot twist, he was the mdi tank
demo shout 2 millisecond cd (i got 5 tb resets in a row)
since when is the spell reflect WA so bad btw? I know all reflects by now and dont need it but
it used to be so good
now it works half the time on the same casts
ye i was wondering the same thing recently
i remember in df
u just had the wa and pressed sr when bar was red
and u would reflect
maybe blizz did sum
and it doesnt pop up
It worked fine last season still no?
ngl
all of nelth lair actually
I think some reflects should be removed lmao
last boss taunt reflect tank buster
I saw critcake taunt the 3rd hoa boss occasionally
just to take the cast reflect for more DPS
Reflect was giga op in S1 GB
and then run away
just let us reflect annoying casts like disarm on 1st boss streets and im happy
Rather cage
I'M happy I finally found out about holding bladestorm
you can skip cage
just use bladestorm
Yeah but holding BS feels bad
seeing Impound w/e its called REFLECTED
eeeh
is peak
its not the worst
your ST damage is still huge (on fury at least)
reflecting huge DoTs is always my fav
seeing spell reflect at 10% dps after a pull in DF
was peak
last boss ataldazar
give demolish a 50% DR while channeling thanks for attending my ted talk
50 words
(full healing every 2 globals)
ye cause cshb is useless and we never press bt
gg
df s1 pre cshb nerf
5 cshb rolling = infinite hps
fury still giga low on ehrps im pretty sure
not as funny as df but still
bro i remember trying arms on fyrakk
and just being perma 0 hp
healer diff gg
also
i think this is mostly a slayer thing cause death drive got nuked for w/e reason
u can def feel the difference in survivability as slayer arms and colo
Colo is giga tanky rn ngl
All the fervor healing and partially demolish DR
I really love the parry too from arms cd compared to fury letting you cheese some Phys stuff
Death Drive actually provides a decent amount of healing though, simply due to how often you use Execute now
I mean it's not a lot but it's not nothing either
Now blizz can we get a 10% buff on mortal strike or adjustments on Colo arms tier set tqvm
It's still funny to me that they nerfed the colossus tier set on ptr
From 2 guaranteed MS crits to 1

Change it back to 2 and make SS only consume 1 stack 
Or just give us more 2-3 target bosses
Why not both
Back to 100% bleed dmg on 4set
At the same time revert bb to 10% per point
I never understood why Colo tier set needed nerfs as well, hero talent was never like overloaded 
Just stray nerfs from prot
#MakeBladestormGreatAgain
Surely apex talents will solve this guys 
Dance of Death reworked into apex talent
bladestorm is already pretty great just press n and spec fury
:)))))))))))))
what about arms slayer?
what's that?
Arms bs is not good
lasts way too long but does mid dmg
we've been sandbagging for too long... unleash the beast
Yea with 
/abandon angle
A question for the philosophers
Crit, how sad would you be if fury was shot and arms would reign?
Do you dislike the flow of gameplay or just how awkward the talent tree is set up?
yes
warrior in general just kinda blows
killed the fury niche week 3 of nerubar and nerfed arms execute before 11.1 release 🙂
Fury execute being competetive with arms because of pressing BT in 11.1 was criminal
ahha its both 😄
love it
I personally love how arms plays out
It feels more like an always planning ahead than just brrrr
Hahahahaha
I like arms play style now, it's just in a weird place with tuning
Legion classic waiting room
Fury has way better ST/prio and constant 5 target, meanwhile arms has to use a CD to hit 2 target and has dogwater execute and lukewarm ST overall. Demolish hits great in big pulls but doesn't matter in overall
Just weird that arms doesn't have strong ST/execute
Kind of its whole theme
funny how
arms has
0 aoe execute
absolutely 0
Prot execute cranks
yeh arms was always great with execute dmg but they kinda nerfd it to the ground for some reason
So as a filty prot main who just wants to fk around in some keys as Colo arms. If line some shit up if they're close, otherwise just send on CD. Warbreak into Demo always. Cleave > MS > OP in AoE and just.. zug?
Do I need sweeping up for Demo in AoE?
i got like 37% crit and still my mortal strike crits 257 times of 456 hits in a dungeon rrr
ye u want to sweep demo
first 2 hits can be cleaved. last hit is aoe anyway
cheater im reporting you
I mean our exe dmg aint bad
Its not bad, but for the amount you have to invest it is
Without marks or juggernaut execute hits like a wet noodle
5 points for execute damage
kek
i hate warrior
Talentless?
yes
Please censor that word in the future
Surely reworking the spec is top of blizzard's priority list 
Spec prot
Tried suprisingly. It just works
No hoops no nuttin just dmf
And yes remove am
100%
Let us have cds that align
And as col demos first hit is wb
Me after I've been chain-queueing for over an hour ...
quick question guys what does slayer arms need to be has good has fury slayer in aoe m+, the reap proc are like day and night
fury can proc reap on 5 targets with rb cleaves
arms op can only hit 2 targets at a time
and when its chance per target hit
this is the result
would be good if they include cleave in the 4p bonus proc
yeah, I @ our boomkin in the guild discord 
When we shutting down?
Pretty sure blizzard isnt aware of this baby crying spec/class discord shutting down thing, and if they do it will just be some community manager rather than actual devs...and they all will be like:
Some classes just can't handle being middle of the pack or lower for a season.
Like a baby with alligator tears...
feral is apparently pretty good right now, but you cant stand at range and aoe the entire instance with one button like fat owl
ye but thats just melee vs ranged
in m+
ranged u can go afk
melee has 9000 frontals
and shit to interrupt
Meanwhile the bm keeps getting hit by the one goblin that jumps out with a cone frontal in operation...
hey dont shame me
or you can Tokyo drift around as a mage and interrupt and stun so much shit 
Actually really fun as a mage if you play as a team player. Not just lost in CDs
Atleast we keep our dignity...
What’s thinking?
I feel like not enough people appreciate the mortal strike anti-healing effect in keys
HoA bigtime, floodgate with those 6 swamp elementals
All people care about in m+ is dps, deaths and interrupts.
yeah
I wish there was SOME other scoring system that helped separate you from others.
like in League when you go to porofessor this external website they use, it'll tell you info about each person. "aggressive early lane, wards a lot, etc. etc."
would be cool if you could see a summary of a person. "kicks a lot, doesn't die often", etc.
Well, an interrupt and cc counter for each person would go along way. Along with personal deaths.
Hold em accountable
It’s fucking gross the keys my mage gets accepted to that it shouldn’t and the keys my warrior gets denied to that it should get accepted
I should do a study
I haven't applied to keys in ages, too depressing 
yeah, I've been applying to 14 HoAs over and over. I'm 3137 and I have every other 14s timed. I don't even know what to write in the comments anymore to get an invite
Paying 50€ for invite
“Gamer vision”
Works everytime
dw it doesnt get better, i have almost all 15s timed and dont get into 14s or 15s
DW, I have resi 15 and a few 16s and I barely get into a couple 16s

atleast its consistent as we go up
Gotta remember there are fewer and fewer groups doing 14s and up but still tons of dps trying to get in.
I'm no arcane mage and it's fine
thing is i just list my own key 99.9% of the time easiest way to climb
True but I'm too lazy to go back to 15 after every fail
resi 14, np 1000 apps back to 15 eventually try again
So I just lazily apply
2 sides of the coin here, you dont complain and apply. I complain and list my own. ying and yang
i now understand the universe
This must be arms pet
This is arms player and arms pet

Call me crazy but reap the storm is incredibly boring
you're crazy
crazy
crazy
Crazy
did the boomie discord realy close down cause ret palas set a trend ? 
Its mini bladestorms
Crazy
meanwhile we do nothing and get buffs
wait has it closed?
guildie told me
Why don’t Monks do the same
Tbh kinda surprised there hasn't been more class tuning since RWF ended
hasnt
guildie probably saw the wowhead post and decided its time to spread misinformation
we love some misinformation
Reap the storm should be bigger that is my only complaint
Give me a new stat area increase
Let's add more arpg elements
Arms loyalist 🙋🏼♂️
Tuning is perfect
Accordin to range players
And dks
The fact that i have to game around 15 jugger stacks that drop off
Yes
More hazzle, less rewards
Still, we love arms
😍
meanwhile, we act like fuckin adults! (mostly)
doompost memes when things are bad
shitpost happy memes when things are good
FACTS
still proud of this one
it's actually not a complete copy/pasta; there are a few gems hidden throughout
take me back
So do we think that 8% buff this coming Tuesday will bring arms back on par. I’ve been doing mega dmg on arms and it’s felt fine in 16 keys. Me think 8% will be huge
8% buff? are you trolling or is that a real thing?
i need a picture with todays newspaper in that image to prove it's from today
imagine stay arms right now
That’s what I’m asking for everyone is sending it to me. I’m driving rn
I’ve been arms it’s been fine in 16s and feels great in all the big massive pulls
FUCK
🤣
the way i almost crashed out when i didn't see warrior on there before seeing the date
same
Lol bro I just punched my steering wheel lmfao thanks for the date
So it is real then. @candid pecan @outer forge I got it from reputable people
I thought the ret discord actually created a balance channel and shut it down as a joke
I heard from a very reputable source that it was actually a ret discord mod that secretly infiltrated the dreamgrove until he got mod access then closed the boomkin channel to make it look like paladins weren't the only ones tripping like that
3.5 hrs left for massive arms buffs
What’s in 3.5 hours
Dont need buff
weekend
Needs god
Any blue posts?
They might stay longer today. Monday was a holiday
I dont think it works that way
well those are two opposing philosophies
Not really. Salary life be crazy.
a @daring heron in the wild!
How were the rets tripping?
When are they not?
Toucheě
Tuesday
unannounced change to 4P for slayer has made it so they can reap the storm like 67% of the time when pressing RB at 5 targets (someone check my math?)
Don’t put that juju on us 🥺
yeah it's great
no I'm psure I wouldve timed this 16
if I went fury instead of arms
cause our boss DPS sucked ass
yeah sadly with the hotfix fury has eclipsed any use case for arms
the aoe diff is barely noticeable between arms and fury and the ST is ages away
I'm sad
the ST is miles away yeah
no I have to item restore all the mastery gear I didn't bother keeping
nah I have my fury equipped for raid anw
fury is my raid spec
I got gear for both
muh fury stats
my fury has mastery as lowest secondary and it still gaps my arms despite zero practice on fury this expac and having just intensely played arms for some time
yeah i feel disgusted at myself
played arms all the way to resi 15, last season exclusively
and after these few fury days
I feel like I'm dogshit on arms even though its the spec not me 
also tank not stacking the mobs but
thats another story
i played arms exclusively to resi 14 this season and then swapped fury like 2 days ago with ZERO practice time and within 1 day im gapping my arms
despite low mastery
it's just wrong

Arms is the abandoned skeleton at the bottom of the pool
Okay, what is currently better in M+, seems its close between collosus arms and slayer fury
Maybe you were a fury player all along
i dont like fury playstyle
i like the slow deliberate play of arms and not the frenetic carpal tunnel frenzy of fury (which you know is thematic and all)
Slayer Arms/Slayer Fury are pretty interchangeable to me
Except with fury going ape shit right now
i don't think the apm on arms is that much lower than fury these days
Fury feels higher for sure
yeah, it definitely is still higher, but arms doens't feel nearly as slow as it use to
I’m kinda bored of colossus and this edition of slayer fury in m+ is super refreshing
And mountain thane can kick rocks
i'm such a hoe for crit. big colossus enjoyer
fury sounds faster bc rampage/whirlwind making multiple hit noises, but yeah it's very similar to arms in APM because we're both gcd-bound
i feel like people say fury is super high apm because they slam their keys 30 times between gcds
unless there's a mechanic giving them 0.3 gcd i have no idea where that comes from
Fury is a little faster because of Enraged Haste
RB RB RB Rampage RB RB RB
unbothered. moisturized. happy. in my lane. focused. flourishing.

you getting tacos again?
actually yes
knew it
my minds being blown that people use shit like this
“There it is lads...the opener
#showtooltip
/castsequence reset=20 Blade of Justice,Divine Toll,Divine Hammer,Execution Sentence,Wake of Ashes, Wake of Ashes,Judgment,Final Verdict,Hammer of Wrath,Final Verdict,Blade of Justice,Final Verdict,Final Verdict,Hammer of Wrath,Final Verdict”
exactly
#showtooltip
/cast Bloodbath
/cast Rampage```
When you could macro rotation on one button on annihilator build
“What does that button do”
“Everything”
Pretty much
please help
Ok
im a mage and warrior it's insane
Same
me either
Press buttons more and go to wowhead for guides?
Spec colossus, press demolish 
Think they’re playing classic
castsequence s3 df
gg
for instance in a caster the key is to keep always the target far away and manage, in my case , the mana and the coldown for the main spells, and be a turret😆
but a warrior needs more skills
in my opinion
it's harder
I played Hunter in S2. Melee is way harder to perform well imo
Warrior just too fun though, don’t care if it’s not as good! There is a reason i have most /played on Warrior haha
yeah, melee in general is the opposite. We have to use our movement to constantly stay in range of shifting targets (our reach is quite small), and we don't worry about overcapping on resources. It's mostly about using which ever ability is the highest priority at the moment.
No arms buffs 😭
Notes?
if you have any specific questions about Arms itself, feel free to ask them here and people are usually pretty generous with insights ❤️ welcome to warrior
Hello guys, is this server also for mop ?

no, this is a retail server. I believe MoP has its own seperate discord
Hrothmar don’t tell people we are nice dudeee come onnnn
Not very warrior like 
we are a bunch of executie pies

thank you so much, I really know this spec❤️
just playing right now MOP
unironically arms is usually very supportive and inclusive of each other. If someone's being an asshole they're usually the odd one out
dunno why that came through but im gonna leave it
Just be thankful this isn’t the survival hunter discord
Or ret pally
Place is full of actual weirdos, half of which don’t play the spec even or the class
They are lame for a different reason 🤣
gocha, i can't confirm if they have a MoP section, but the "classic" discord for warrior is here:
https://discord.gg/RbCZJtw
this one you're currently in is mostly Retail focused
ARMS IS SO BACK (in pvp)

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critcake
Bruh... no boofs.
Critcake: Arms troll #69
Lock it down
sorry too busy reaping the storm
It will be very funny when by end of patch arms ends up where it was before 8%
They really want all arms to switch to fury this season
Bathroom time after tacos or talking about Fury?
could have left both in the shitter
na man, I am fat and happy rn
🌮
true, but i wish i will 😆
okª
BM getting a 4% increase across the board is wild
They have got to be joking with this tuning
They tune for raid not M+
Thought colo arms might get a bump in ST but it’s all good
our shadow priest is thrashing 😂
If BM had more buttons that mattered to press I’d like it more. Idk how they gutted it even more this tier.
ooooof
Im tanking on M+ and raiding as Arms couse of the stats being more similar than fury but im lacking some damage on mythic raid as Arms on ST 😓
No buffs tho...
we dont need buffs, just play better than your raidmates
pov blizzard : paladin complain = buff / drood complain = buff / warrrior complain = buff (in pvp bozo)
Yeah that's true... I can be 2nd to last on dps instead of last
unless everyone in your guild is pumping, MOST players arent really impacted by these changes imho. Just keep learning the spec/fights gooder.
just happy we aren't nerfed further for now tbh
Nerfed as arms? Why tho
we had an unannounced change to how our set procs, so they could just roll that back...
one question, for dps in retail wich spec is better fury or arms?
preference mostly. They behave similarly. Fury is slightly tankier and easier to pick up, arms is cooler
ok thank you
I have not tried fury yet cause I also play arms in PvP
We're doing good right now in logs cause we can outpad fury if we go full aoe on those early fights 
honestly learning both is good in the long run, same with Prot. Being good "at warrior" is usually a very solid idea
easier to get into content as Prot 
Nothing wrong with more tanks!
I plan on playing all specs this season for sure!
I genuinely don't get why people overvalue secondaries so much. Just get different rings and neck and you are more than fine to play fury
yeah, it takes some patience and farming, but getting your stats "close enough" is perfectly fine, you can fix gear swaps with time + more drops
funny you say this. im an arms only player and wanted to try out the reap the storm thing and it only cost me 1200 valorstones to upgrade the neck and two rings
ilvl king anyways
Now I am just labbing fury for fun
4 weeks in should def have everything you need from m+
Exactly
Might be learning Fury this weekend... I'm breaking...
Dooooo it
Not the same when embelis are on crit as arms and prot and u dont need those as furyz also add to that that your guild count u in as tank and u crafted them instead of ur 2H weapon...
But dont missunderstand me, im playing arms couse i like it more than fury atm
Embellishments are hot trash they amount to almost nothing. You will do more than fine with Crit embellishments on fury
Not much to learn. Press Raging Blow + Rampage and every 4 GCDs press WW lol
That's understandable. I just see it all the time people going ohh I wish I could play fury or arms but my stats are off
When in reality
Secondaries barely matter
Gonna try this then, its slayer also on raid ST i guess
Doing your rotation properly/not dying to stuff > gear
People are approaching the fury switch as though they need to eke out every little percentage of optimization like they do with arms because the spec is trash
You’ll be fine with mastery rings and necks fury is properly tuned
Will try tho, thanks a lot guys
95% of your dmg from gear is just ilvl min maxing stats is the last couple % most of the time even less
This
Also as warriors weapon ilvl is better than anything else... As allways...
Pretty much
Gosh i should have crafted a weapon...
Good luck with that
I always craft weapon. Worst case you get a good off hand for Fury.
and you can instantly full upgrade a hero piece for valorstones for fury OH
Yeah no reason to ever not craft a wep at the start of a tier unless you're lucky and get from first vault and you have no intention of playing fury
one question more, for leveling and undestranding the class, the spell bar is correct?
I think i could improve the damage

this is a Retail discord, so we can't really help you with Classic questions here 😅
all good! it's just a much different version of the game
thanks bro
i'd recommend joining the Classic discord and seeing if they have people who can help with classic-specific quesitons:
https://discord.gg/RbCZJtw
also everyones keybinds and stuff is gonna be totally different ergonomically
ok I'll go there
i hope you find answers to things!
for me like 1-6 and shift+ 1-6 is keyboard and then 7-12 and shift 7-12 is all mouse buttons
left wasd hand can reach to 6 / shift 6 everything to the right of that is mouse
yee i use 1-5 because i have two brain cells fighting for third place
thanks for your patience 😆 you are very kind! see you guys
oh wait interesting
Yeah its just a feel thing. Like I don't use numbers at all. All of my keybinds are letters or my mouse.
Playing wow without an MMO mouse is illegal
my bindings are cursed, but they're my curse
haha i dont use mmo mouse i only have 2 buttons + scroll up/down
I can never do those MMO mouses. 5 buttons max on my mouse xD
Dude I couldn't survive without my 12 button mouse
9 and 10 are Z and X
i wonder if i can find my old diagram i had from last season...
But tbf I mostly only use 9 the other 3 I don't use often
😲
this is OLD (note puzzlebox) but it works for my brain and that's all that matters.
What's H? Ping?
ok
unlisted is shift + space which is mount. Honestly one of the best quality of life bindings
oh are we doing keybinds again lol
just for shits and giggles


REAP OF STORM ENJOYER

my one button BM rotation just got 4% stronger