arms

[smoky kayak]

#1237307732705415228

[pearl wind]

ill use dstance a lot more efficiently with this i think and i can put it at a more accessible bind

[hasty pumice]

@minor gust

easiest key done

nice and clean 0 deaths

[minor gust]

[pearl wind]

i dont have any 16s yet

just 15s

[hasty pumice]

i hope you dont say that about your tinder matches

[pearl wind]

resil 14

hah

i'm married

[hasty pumice]

not until you meet me

[pearl wind]

ayyyy

[hasty pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-cat-scared-scaredcat-scared-cat-gif-7805744473386885099

[pearl wind]

[ember hatch]

Hi guys, as a couple of tricks, which ones would you recommend betwen araka pacemaker and stone idol? for war arms in m+

[hasty pumice]

for m+ pacemaker + stone idol

[slow saddle]

Ye we want crit and i cannot lie

[analog laurel]

Thanks for answering this! ❤️

[ember hatch]

thanks all ❤️

[vast helm]

https://tenor.com/view/leslie-nielsen-what-wtf-confused-look-confused-gif-283082192766325851

[olive nest]

Frappe Mortelle!

[jade ember]

we did it reddit

[void bay]

[pearl wind]

what do you think about pacemaker vs antenna

[hasty pumice]

i dont have antenna

[pearl wind]

mood

[hasty pumice]

but psure its just always

antenna > pacemaker

[pearl wind]

i have myth pacemaker in my vault and kinda thinking i wanna hold out for antenna

[hasty pumice]

im psure that pacemaker doesnt scale that well with ilvl

[pearl wind]

yea i already have hero 4/6 pacemaker

and myth idol

[hasty pumice]

yeah doubt you want pacemaker myth

psure hc antenna is better

yup

ofc those stats arent perfect etc and it might look slightly different for you

but yeah

antenna is way better

[pearl wind]

thinkin ill go for myth chest

[hasty pumice]

that sounds way better wtf

:kekw

[pearl wind]

yea raidbots puts it at uh 0.1% difference between myth chest and pacemaker

it actually is landing in favor of pacemaker

0.9% increase from baseline for myth chest 1.0% for pacemaker

5 minute 8 target patchwerk

[cunning smelt]

Guys whats your average dps in trash packs?

[pearl wind]

depends on the pack but like ~10m by the end of it?

hard to say

[icy magnet]

dose it matter what 2h weapon we craft?

[cunning smelt]

I think it does

[pearl wind]

if you have racial bonus maybe

orc axes

[cunning smelt]

Im trying to play and understand Arms but idk if my dps in AoE is good

[pearl wind]

wait are racial weapon passives still a thing

👴

[cunning smelt]

yea, by a small % apparently

[cunning smelt]

Idk when to use cleave or generate demolish 10stacks faster

[pearl wind]

lookin at wowhead racial bonuses im not seeing them anymore

[urban fjord]

am i misreading logs or are top arms parses cancelling bladestorm almost immediately

[shadow ibex]

No

[pearl wind]

sad

[blissful tinsel]

Damn this a tough one cos I play fury in raid and arms in m+

[floral marsh]

congrats

[silent saddle]

you guys switching specs to one thing or another in specific keys?

I always just go ST bleed build

but wondering if there's something specific I should be swapping for

[fresh spire]

bleed build just feelsgoodman

[minor gust]

Fury slayer reap time fishy

[fresh spire]

im locked in

sent a key earlier

pretty funny

tbf reap from op is pretty solid in slayer too

[pearl wind]

[fresh spire]

But issue is bladestorm-<> Sudden death usage compared to fury

[minor gust]

wait is it working for EU

thought just NA

[fresh spire]

yeh lol

[minor gust]

aye

did a few 15s with it now

feels really good

[fresh spire]

need sims updated

need to check RB>rampage and SD vs rb

as bladestorm is important for next trash pulls

[minor gust]

First pull Ara 15

[fossil thistle]

🫡

Either arcano or Myth shoulders

[finite wasp]

Is slayer cranking or still a pos

[spiral coral]

I wanna see

[elder zealot]

Ethical: take sack, go Fury
True Arms believer: take ring and prayge

[barren tartan]

does anyone else here use the big wigs key portal thing? mine hasnt worked for like 2 days

[fossil thistle]

Sack sims good for arms too, esp ST

[fresh spire]

do mythic first boss then decide

as not many actually want arcano outside of warrior

[fossil thistle]

Myth shoulders had avoidance

[fresh spire]

[minor gust]

lil HOA action with OF

[finite wasp]

Does anyone know how much of a buff it was for slayer overall

[fresh spire]

Not too much for arms since the scaling proc rate of overpower isn't as strong as improved whirlwind. We don't have numbers just yet.

[fossil thistle]

in ST it should be 0%

Fights you can get the occasional SS off, its probably gonna be pretty small, my guess would be sub 1%

[finite wasp]

bro only sub 1%

That’s is Sadge

[fossil thistle]

It needs to be simmed properly

but

It's not a super huge buff

[finite wasp]

I was having high hopes that slayer arms would actually work but I guess not

[fresh spire]

I mean its better than it was last reset now

Cleave>op cycling is strong

Just going to see more reap procs on average from swept overpowers

[fossil thistle]

Secret Loomithar tech

stop fucking charging these

You become this real quick (11s into fight)

[glacial rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/metoo-gif-4412917

[silent saddle]

Anyone notice that Stone Idol is kinda hard to press? I've found that I have to spam press my keybind when I'm ready to send. I inevitably miss a global or two trying to get it to cast and it's frustrating

It's not macro'd or anything

[minor gust]

I cant see why they would be inaccurate

its just a stat trinket

[gritty burrow]

cool thanks

[minor gust]

its on the global cd

[silent saddle]

Okay gotcha, and you can move while casting right?

[minor gust]

yes

[finite wasp]

Stone idol gave me Ligma at first but I got used to it after a few keys

[balmy kindle]

Use the avatar macro

[fossil thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/avatar-i-kind-of-hoped-youd-say-that-sam-worthington-i-was-kinda-hoping-you-would-say-that-avatar-movie-gif-27322869

[forest hearth]

If you hold down an input in the opposite diretion of them (strafe typically) you can charge them and not die

[spiral coral]

I just took a fury in my key

its about to go down

[fossil thistle]

I do that

probably 4/5 times its fine

but randomly sometimes it just doesn't want to

mythic prog last week was like 5x in a row

[forest hearth]

Time to up my offerings to RNGsus

[fossil thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/sadgecry-sadge-cry-gif-18423674

[manic pasture]

why are my arms ST sims so low...

[minor gust]

you should link your sim

[balmy kindle]

Oo slayer changes no wonder it didn't feel as spinny

[spiral coral]

they aren't

I thought arms had an st issue, it was a skill issue on my part.

[manic pasture]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/fRgy7MvR8UosS89KvNryAv

ST for M+

[shadow ibex]

colossus has bad ST

[faint storm]

how is Arms doing with the recent buffs compared to fury in raid?

[void bay]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/44?class=Warrior&spec=Fury

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/44?class=Warrior&spec=Arms

[spiral coral]

its sad how dead undermine is omg

Feel like Undermine/LoU/Driving was such a undertaking that was so half cooked

[balmy kindle]

Making a race mechanic without putting in effort to make wide enough tracks or psychics

[manic pasture]

What do I sim for aoe? 5t or 8t?

[fossil thistle]

we're 5t capped

as a bozo, i just sim ST

[shadow ibex]

fury is hard capped

5-8 target is fine. demo doesnt stop dealing less until 9+

[void lily]

is it worth using a catalyst charge on a normal piece of gear for 2pc

[shadow ibex]

you can pretty easily farm hero gear from like a 6?

maybe even lower

[void lily]

hmmm

[shadow ibex]

and delves with a map p sure

lucky m loom kill

jugg is so fun love watching a buff tick down

[hasty pumice]

@minor gust https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/447464088893784074/1412664498895978567/image.png?ex=68b91dd6&is=68b7cc56&hm=84604dc78e6fd3221fa0f400dc139818ea6b955a24735f23c6ebd689cd13ee97&

gg

from no antenna

to mythic

ez

[minor gust]

Huge Gratz

[hasty pumice]

tyty

how do I sim it

10 or 20% miss chance

[balmy kindle]

Holy big antenna

[hasty pumice]

almost the biggest

imagine it had avoidance lul

btw I still have a 704 nhc idol trinket

🙂

[short oasis]

do we perhaps have a bis trinket list somewhere for arms?

[smoky kayak]

try #1237307457382907924 or bloodmallet link in #1237307777677004854

[silent lynx]

Antenna is good in m+ ? the crit buff easily recovered?

[smoky kayak]

it's good as long as you're not zipping around like speedy gonzales

keep an eye out and make sure you don't outrun your orbs, cause you can end up kiting them till they despawn if you're moving fast

[bleak fog]

Go with tiershoulders from vault or helm that need catalyst (have to wait for next week in that case)?

Helm is 20k above in sim.

[smoky kayak]

ask yourself whether you're likely to see another helm or shoulders first, and/or if there's anything else you'd rather spend that cata charge on

also how much does the dam matter this week vs next

[bleak fog]

Yeah, in the end shoulders are the slot we might wanna go with something ells then tier

[hasty pumice]

hell yeah, that makes sense

ilvl upgrading my arms from 704 to 710 is a loss surely

[grave mulch]

anyone else think its wild theres still no class tuning even tho RWF was like 2 weeks ago

[limpid hornet]

Hands are +8k compared to trinket but it's easier to find hands than this trinket until turbo boost. Kinda nobrainer right ?

[finite wasp]

It’s weird yeah but I think the balance so far is relatively ok even though tuning is necessary

[short oasis]

for me i got this

its either hands to turn into tier, but i dont have catalyst yet

or one of those 2 trinkets

need to sim when i get back home, but i guess ara is slighly better in st but worse in aoe, while core is right behind ara but better in aoe

[still fox]

is slayer arms with change der better?

[finite wasp]

I would say gloves r good choice

But those 2 trinkets aren’t amazing for warr but it’s up to u and what u sim

[short oasis]

gonna sim, but gloves prob will be on the better side cuz of stats

and that core trinket is ez to get since its first boss

[plush mulch]

guys i got a myth track belt in my vault and even on 723 it sims much worse than that boring delve belt.. do we just keep the delve belt until midnight or what?

[short oasis]

i think crafted belt with crit embelishment is probably better

atleast it says so on wowhead

[smoky kayak]

usually gets replaced ~710 w/ a socket, but if not using a crafted weapon, Arms will eventually use a crafted belt, simply because there aren't many spots left to craft on

[plush mulch]

oke thank you, i feel like this is onyx annulet all over again.. blizz just cant balance items like that

[smoky kayak]

this cantrip is much better for the fact that you actually will replace it this season

[summer shore]

anyone using sks in keys

[thick kelp]

yeah

[thick hamlet]

if two items sim exactly the same with difference being one has crit the other has mastery

which actually translates into more dps in a real situation

mastery since bleed damage is better when there's downtime or am i fussing over nothing

[thick kelp]

fussin over nothing

[thick hamlet]

thank you arms number 1 troll

[zinc relic]

I'm a gambling man so always pick crit

[void bay]

I'm a master baiter so always pick mastery

[hasty pumice]

Ye, prio damage and boss damage

Pretty important for arms, even if it's not a lot

[thick hamlet]

how does this affect slayer for m+?

[edgy wasp]

Hey whats better vault bis weapon from eco dome 723 or myth tier gloves to complete set

[thick hamlet]

does it only matter whne you sweeping strikes OP? or does dreadnaught count as an OP hit as well

[hasty pumice]

Sim it

[heady shale]

How is Slayer in raid feeling right now? Got decent haste/crit gear from my Prot main

[floral ledge]

who got better one ?

https://tenor.com/view/evil-laugh-gif-22378372

[smoky kayak]

says it right there in the last sentence: the change doesn't affect Arms as much, since it was already prioritizing Overpower, but it does mean you will see more Reaps than you did before when OP is used during Sweeping Strikes

[thick hamlet]

was under the impression that's mainly for ST

appreciate it

[smoky kayak]

there's no change for single target whatsoever

[viral locust]

sims updated now archi?

was it just updating it procs multiple times or was there some small apl change?

[balmy kindle]

Just means more now in aoe scenarios

[open ingot]

is OF good now and worth running or still need more testing?

[dreamy sandal]

Anyone that have the trinket, is a Screams Hero trinket better than some other Myth piece from Vault? Thinking that I will eventually get all Myth, but being lucky with Screams could be a rare occasion

[vast helm]

any Arms Slayer M+ build?

[minor gust]

https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1237303208754286715

[warm plover]

Hey guys, would this be considered one of our bis? or should i go for a chest set piece mythic?
I dont raid so dung trinkets are my only option

[primal hamlet]

Would dreadnought be affected by the tier set change?

[minor gust]

No

Just SS op

[balmy kindle]

40% now to spin

[minor gust]

Sorry Slayer fury gets to win arms Slayer still pretty eh

[balmy kindle]

If meat cleaver works as it should it's 80% to spin on fury ?

Rampage rb spam spin 2 win inc

[minor gust]

It's 67% Same as BT

[balmy kindle]

Wow that's pretty nasty considering fury has like perma uptime on bladestorm (always maxed stacks of overwhelmed)

[pearl wind]

hmmm reap buffs?

[lofty pulsar]

dumb question

is arterial bleed overall better than one against many

[pearl wind]

with bigger pulls it has better uncapped

[boreal zealot]

yo, got a https://www.wowhead.com/item=238390/soulbreakers-sigil?ilvl=710 option in vault. it is higher on bloodmallet single target list than what I have but is that still the case without the versatility proc?

[hasty pumice]

onlyfans slayer?

https://tenor.com/view/tiktok-shaquille-shaq-timeout-ethical-gif-9311067668442735802

[minor gust]

Slayer buffs gave me motivation to do keys today

Timed a 16 and some 15s

Slayer fury fucks hard

[hasty pumice]

is the aoe buff that huge?

[minor gust]

Massive for fury

[stark river]

Yo, if i charge into a mob do i do double overpower before mortal strike to buff ir or put mortal strike on cd first?:

[hasty pumice]

just chilling just vibing

[stark river]

also in aoe do i just cleave after charging in and perma keep it on cd whatever else i do?:

[minor gust]

Any of the guides in https://discord.com/channels/148872210742771712/1237303208754286715 will help you

[hasty pumice]

you want to min max your cleave and MS cd in their specific scenarios

e.g. a good example is

if you warbreaker to set up demolish, but cleave is up or MS is up

press that first and then demolish

man this set will take ages

week 4 and I got 2 plate drops

[stark river]

i see, thanks

Also is the sudden death conditions that beeps when i need to press execute only for slayer build or should i install it if i play colossus?

its the weakaura that guide recomends

[eager sigil]

no sd in colossus

[hasty pumice]

worst type of player change my mind

[split smelt]

we still like Pacemaker? hero sacbrood and champ pacemaker atm

[pearl wind]

ya thats very cringe

pay me to time my key

[hasty pumice]

just insta ignore them

[hasty pumice]

not worth it imo

rather go for a mythic set piece

[storm lark]

Can DN proc reap the storm with recent change?

[eager sigil]

no

[stark river]

man playing colossus and not having those meaty executes is a bit sad gonna have to try out slayer

[viral locust]

anyone know if sims updated yet?

[fresh spire]

they are

[short oasis]

is it okay to have 2 passive trinkets on arms this raid tier? like ara-kara and arcaocore, or would it be better to swap one of them with cursed idol?

im not sure how good 2 passive trinkets are on arms

[spiral coral]

shrug I’m not for carries but I don’t see the hate for them. bunch of uber geared people carrying a noob to beat a boss is a tale as long as DnD. Almost baked into the fabric of wow at this point. Idk how they’re hurting anyone or are “the worst.” They could be dog shit and have a carried io, apply to a 16, get accepted and then brick the key - now that would be terrible and hate worthy. And unfortunately most boosted people do this. So, I get your point.

[hasty pumice]

inflates the pushing key pool with players who will likely just brick your keys due to lack of experience

potentially taking spots over people who wouldnt

[spiral coral]

Last season I only ran into one healer that was boosted that bricked a key and I had a hunch they were. Feel like boosted players are pretty easy to spot.

[gusty nymph]

do you guys hold demolish or send it as it is available?

[hasty pumice]

unless a mob pack is at like <10% HP or if you are in e.g. soulbinder and you know there will be adds soon anyways

just use it

it's a ~20s CD in almost all cases

[gusty nymph]

cool, ty mate

[vast glacier]

When class Tuning ? :(

I want Arms to be ahead st :(

[shrewd adder]

never bcs there is no warrior player in blizzard balance team

[heady shale]

Is Colossus Arms in raid cringe or is Slayer the way to go?

[limber cove]

colossus aoe fight slayer st

[frozen bison]

Wich fight styles option choose for sim in MM+ in raidbots ?

[storm prism]

I built a physical comp around an arms warrior (Shaman, monk) and dude nuked the key

I think arms is a sleeper pick for sure

[shrewd adder]

dont this spell had cd ? xD

[spiral coral]

yeee but now we just yell non stop and annoy everyone

[latent moss]

not anymore

my adhd is cured

[shrewd adder]

XD

is this answer from blizzard to war players ? "go annoy somebody else" ?

[vast glacier]

I dont Talk about Key Environment xd the colossus Arms is strong when you play around it (like fire Mage used to be) but i want it to be more considirable in raid :/

[zinc relic]

nerf Frost DK

[shrewd adder]

that is perfect

[olive nest]

Dpsurmom

[wispy sail]

with slayer "fix" is slayer competitve with colossus?

[glacial rapids]

Sim both of the specs with your current gear for m+ That will give you your answer.

[wispy sail]

just unsure if raidbots is updated with the fix

[glacial plume]

I tried in ⁠ui-weakauras-addons but nobody responded, hope it's ok I try here, anyway:

Does anyone have a working Spell Reflect WA? The one I found which said it's for S3 doesn't work half the time I'm in M+

https://wago.io/pjl-p3su9 this one.

[wispy sail]

i use that and it works for everything i've noticed

what isnt it working for?

[glacial plume]

I just isn't showing up for me

[void bay]

@wispy sail ?

[wispy sail]

?

[void bay]

hehe

[forest hearth]

It's solid in MT situations... just not great in ST

[grim haven]

hi

[rapid bronze]

how do we feel about arcanocore these days

[glacial plume]

Another question, this might be a dumb one.

Why is it that Demolish and Warbreaker never line up? I know AM only does CDR on Warbreaker but I'm 99% sure Demolish also gets CDR from somewhere?

[smoky kayak]

Read the colossus talents

[glacial plume]

Ah I see it, thanks. Is there a way to play to line them up or is it just how it is because one is rage spent and one requires an ability that's sometimes on CD

[smoky kayak]

Sometimes they will happen to line up, but they’re always going to have variable CDs

Just play around it

[glacial plume]

Ok, thanks for replying! (And thanks for you work on Warrior meta stuff 🙂 )

[smoky kayak]

Np, it’s weird but you quickly learn to just send in most cases

Holding is only important when there’s a fresh pack or the CDs are close naturally - in the case of demolish, it gets enough cdr w/ 4p that its usually close to Warbreaker anyway

[shy dagger]

So by mistake i went with my slayer st to gambit and i was surprised i did fairly well, is there a chance with a full aoe slayer to outdo colosus?

[thorny sierra]

Hey quick question: is there any interaction with rend or is that just a DoT that does damage (and i guess gets increased slightly by thunderous roar)

Like deep wounds increases all damage dealt

[shy dagger]

Skull spliter, tier 4 of colosus

[thorny sierra]

But its just more damage tho right? Like not something that impacts your rotation in some way or grants cleave (ie nether tempest was like this for arcane but at least it gave cleave via arcane echo)

[shadow ibex]

it doesnt do anything but dmg

[thorny sierra]

Ok ty

[shadow ibex]

with bloodsurge deepwounds can give rage is the only impact our bleeds can have on your moment to moment gameplay

and thats just DW

[lofty pulsar]

@smoky kayak is everything as far as sims updated for arms? i lose 10% dps as slayer lol

[thorny sierra]

Idk I come from mage where a lot of our stuff (except for frost) is meticulously crafted; almost all our abilities feel very impactful and unique and cannot be replaced; none of them just do damage without some cool interaction. It just feels like arms has some basic buttons that do damage and that’s it

[thick kelp]

yeah

[thorny sierra]

Idk it seems like a pre-rework spec but i’m just not familiar enough with it

[minor gust]

Arms has been half cooked since bfa

[smoky kayak]

I mean, every arms button has an interaction beyond dam too

[thorny sierra]

Whats the rend interaction? (Non damage)

[shadow ibex]

Keep MS and cleave and OP on cd

Rend makes up a good chunk of our aoe dmg so you can say it enables that to function

It's like 10%? For colossus

A tenth of your dmg is a lot of your dam

[smoky kayak]

Triggers Tactician, interacts with SkS

[rotund owl]

Arms warrior has to be one of the fastest leveling specs i have played.

[teal fossil]

You haven’t played many specs then

Early game arcane mage is something else

Idk if they nerfed it recently but I can’t imagine they balance leveling content

[rotund owl]

i have 25 80 Characters and i still say it is one of the strongest

[spiral coral]

Rogue felt crazy fast

Until delves

[torn rivet]

folks, how does arms feel now in M+?
mainly compared to fury

[outer forge]

arms pumps some nice aoe. fury is more well rounded tho, does better single target

[torn rivet]

so we got issues on the ST?

tsch.. oh well, it is what it is

thanks brother in arms

[outer forge]

yeah arms is fairly sub par in single target

so depending on group comp it can be better or worse than fury

[torn rivet]

eh. What can we do

and the community?

are they still insta-rejecting warriors or?

[outer forge]

i haven't had many issues finding pugs for vault keys, but i don't pug anything higher than that usually so can't speak to it

[torn rivet]

I was thinking more of the 10-14 range

[outer forge]

10 you shouldn't have much trouble assuming you've got proper IO and gear to be running them.

[torn rivet]

sounds good then, thanks mate

[smoky kayak]

Wars have been good this season

[torn rivet]

that's heartwarming to hear, but you know how wow pugs work. You're not A+ tier or above, you get rejected or something among these lines

also, I have never gotten the chance to say thanks for all your informative guides Archimtiros! 😄

[zinc relic]

I'm doing 14s and 15s atm as arms no issues at all single target. And aoe we keep up with the best

Phys comp is popular too so getting groups is the best its been in a while

[smoky kayak]

Na, warriors have had really good representation this season

[torn rivet]

im happy to hear all of this. took a 3-4 days break from warrior and played marksmanship hunter. f**k that class, im coming back home to my arms warrior 😄

[smoky kayak]

A lot of people get rejected from keys and assume it’s specifically b/c of their class, when the reality is there are just a lot of people queuing

[torn rivet]

btw @smoky kayak nowadays, for M+ we sim on dungeon slice or is there a custom route type of thing?

[zinc relic]

Sim single target for everything in m+ specc because thinking is dangerous as a warrior player

[torn rivet]

wut

haha

[wooden lava]

I reject warriors all the time on my alts

No hard feelings

it's just a shit class

A warrior player would have to be an elite overall player for me to even invite them to anything higher than 13-14

very high usage of pummel and shockwave

especially shockwave (w/ knockup) on important things like the robots in floodgate

there's nothing that it's particularly amazing at

I invite FDKs even tho its playerbase has an average IQ of minnesota winters

because they bring way too much

and deal way too much dmg for how little effort they put in, essentially failing upwards because of their class

a DK doing blue purple damage for their key lvl

could still be reliably doing more dmg than a colarms warrior doing like 97+ for the key lvl

even target selection from the warrior would need to be good

[smoky kayak]

Did you really just write four paragraphs to justify “I’m a meta slave” ? Lol

[wooden lava]

i am tho

[smoky kayak]

Idc who you invite

Nobody does lol

[wooden lava]

i'm on both sides of the fence

people here have been a bit down about signing up for dozens of keys and getting perma rejected

[smoky kayak]

Really haven’t, not this season

[wooden lava]

damn bro what u on

i need some of that

i'm 3600 io from last season and barely get invited to 14s

[smoky kayak]

And war participation stats are actually quite decent

[wooden lava]

dps war?

[smoky kayak]

I mean your entire tirade there was also about 15+ keys, which is far outside the bounds of what 99.9% of the player base do in the first place

The most fundamental and obvious fact of any scaled system like m+ is that it will pyramid more the higher you go

[twin hazel]

"Bro" do you know who you're arguing with???

[olive nest]

Some body who absolutely doesn’t give a shit, lmao

[tardy hare]

This is warrior life if you can’t handle rejection don’t play warrior

Also warrior fits phys comp better then dk so your argument is only true for non phys comp teams

[smoky kayak]

It’s not about not knowing, it’s just about people’s perception being skewed by their own experience

• if all you do is push keys, ofc you’re going to be more sensitive to meta issues, even if the vast majority of players don’t

[hasty pumice]

So far for 15 invites I got 0 until I cleared 2-3, then I got invited within 5-10 minutes for every key

same shit will happen for my 16s now

cleared 1 16, still no invites, psure once I got 3x 16 I'll get regular invites

[untold pewter]

And yet there are warriors getting title every tier

[hasty pumice]

I do think people are less inclined to pick DPS warrior if Prot exists in this state, but at the end they just check if it fits the comp. Arms has really good utility in higher keys with 20s AoE knock up compared to other warrior specs and huge AoE bursts, but if you apply to a comp with DH, Priest and arcane mage

yeah you won't get taken lol

and unless you got like 3.8k last season nobody really gives a fuck from my experience

[untold pewter]

Also idk man

"very good usage of pummel and shockwave" like

[hasty pumice]

its just a regular melee kick

[untold pewter]

That's basic?

Lmao

Yeah

[hasty pumice]

supreme utility

[olive nest]

Literally seen a pug 10 listed yesterday
“Inviting 3.8k last season only +10 crest farm”

[hasty pumice]

madlad

[untold pewter]

[hasty pumice]

my +10 title grind

boys pls!

we gotta get 10+++

[olive nest]

People are actually so degenerate

It’s insane

But I just laugh

[hasty pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/buttefly-dog-butterfly-dog-собака-бабочка-gif-3477745535671394965

you

[severe ether]

Hi i search the Colossal Might Stacks weak aura update pls

[wooden lava]

u found my group

[smoky kayak]

Not something you really need to track, the button will automatically glow at 10

[severe ether]

Well, it doesn't shine for me

[torn rivet]

folks, small question:

in multitarget (3+) do we ever use mortal strike?

[minor gust]

Yes

3+ cleave > Ms > TC (till everything has rend) > OP

[torn rivet]

i see. thanks!

could someone also please describe, when or rather under what conditions do we SkS?

[cunning smelt]

I dont like skullsplitter

too many buttons

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/887404926265884705/1013411061006872696/869641195914141698-2-20-1.gif

[torn rivet]

not gonna lie, I don't either

but in ST its a really great button

[cunning smelt]

nah I believe you but still

also hello

[halcyon valve]

i should play the lottery with this vault loot

[cunning smelt]

I would the same

do it

[teal fossil]

Ty for adding the 3rd part

I get triggered when ppl think rend is irrelevant after pull

[rapid bronze]

Does TC still apply more rends in SS

[teal fossil]

Luck

[cunning smelt]

Im a rogue player so all these SS's and and SkS is new to me

kek

[minor gust]

When rend is doing like 14% of your dmg in a key it's dumb to not prio TC over OP

[shadow ibex]

I just once at the start of sweeping and at the end and that should maintain by next sweep cast

If pull is big enough that I want to use bug

[slow saddle]

U op to reset ms for buff but y

U wanna clap more in bigger packs deffo

[shadow ibex]

They really need to just streamline rend application

Outbreak way more simple

[balmy kindle]

fury slayer is nasty now godamned reap procs

[tribal kindle]

what about Arms slayer?

[wooden tide]

fuck

have 704 idol and 723 sacbrood

but mythic tier legs would be nice

[pearl wind]

id take mythic tier legs prolly

but sim ur character

[lofty pulsar]

is 2 points bloodborne 1 skullsplitter and 0 in the choice between dreadnaught/strength of arms trolling hard or

[slow saddle]

Pace beats sac no?

For raid

Nopr

We dont op a lot on aoe when bleeds fuck

[wooden tide]

i mean in raid i play fury

[lofty pulsar]

yeah and i feel like skullsplitter doing alot of dps for me

[slow saddle]

Kek

[slow saddle]

Why

Arms fucks

I promise bro

[wooden tide]

just simmed better at the time

[slow saddle]

Dont look at sims!

Nn to be sad

Just play arms

[lofty pulsar]

arms is only like 200k dps behind fury apparently

pretty sure skill overcomes that

[slow saddle]

Nope

But lack of skill

Does

🤣

[lofty pulsar]

fair lmaoooo

ima try the nothing in choice node see how it goes

but 10% instead of 5% on bleeds blasts i bet

[slow saddle]

U always run 2 x bleed

[lofty pulsar]

but im a skullsplitter troll so

[slow saddle]

Its better to drop sks for

I like sendin sls

On any 2 target its not bad

Just remove col dmg

And buff aoe in gen

Col dmg makes u wanna hold stuff

Holding never fun

[lofty pulsar]

ehhhh took the sks off for the strength of arms

wish i knew how much dps each does

[fossil quiver]

should I use cleave on ST and TWO TARGET? And so, should I use slam on MT (3+)?

[wooden tide]

but also doesnt antenna beat pace

[lofty pulsar]

antenna op i hear

[wooden tide]

yeah sim says mythic legs beat pace with aranocore/sacbrood

[eternal cobalt]

does mortal strike work on salhadaars selfheal?

[minor gust]

No

[eternal cobalt]

crud.

my guild is .. uhm, lacking damage :D

[glacial rapids]

we dont have a way to deal with the affix this week if we're running lower keys. Do we?

[stable fiber]

it use to

they however

fixedit

early in the season before rwf guilds got to the boss

[eternal cobalt]

oof.

boss healed to 70% on heroic. yea.

well be here for some time.

[minor gust]

What's the affix I haven't done a 10 since first week

[olive nest]

Dispel/heal affix

You can use bitter immunity for that iirc

[minor gust]

That's about it other than that healer affix

[heavy patio]

does the stealth buff to targets hit also apply to arms overpower as well or is it fury only?

[minor gust]

Yes

[heavy patio]

Hell yeah

[minor gust]

It's pretty much nothing for arms

But have fun with 40% chance to proc when SS up

[heavy patio]

Reap the storm is a satisfying effect, makes brain go brr

vibes doubled

[minor gust]

[fossil thistle]

Finally

I feel like im a week behind

[rare kite]

augmentation

[fossil thistle]

Whats that

[shadow ibex]

death

[fossil thistle]

I made an aug and checked but only two specs?

[shadow ibex]

[fossil thistle]

I made an evoker

[shadow ibex]

too late

caught in 4k

[wooden lava]

evoker kinda bangs

it feels like it has such forgiving movement

[nimble yoke]

how are you supposed to get the spark this week again? I thought it was weekly quests

[rapid bronze]

this week it's 3 delves IIRC

[pearl wind]

just impending victory as soon as it comes out you'll clear most of it and make it easy for the healer to just heal through the rest of the absorb

bitter immunity has a 3 min cd so it's better saved for something real if needed, if you talent it

[torn rivet]

bruh

[torn rivet]

guys, how do you usually demolish in a warbreaker window, you send it even with less than 10 stacks (like, 8 stacks for example) if that's all you could get before warbreaker ends, or send it only when it has 10 stacks whether in a warbreaker window or not?

[fossil thistle]

Typically should have 10 stacks pretty easy

[torn rivet]

Hmm, yeah, but it happened to me and I was quite puzzled

I sent it with 8 stacks, was all I could get at that moment

iirc, I CS'ed(warbreaker) while it was on cooldown, so a chunk of the colossus stacks went in cdr of the ability

[fossil thistle]

On openers I'll normally get my Cleave and MS off before I CS so i have 10 in the window

Otherwise most of the time It kinda lines up naturally, I'll send demo if I have to wait 10s for CS though

[torn rivet]

hm, so you use both cleave and ms in AoE situations in order to gain the stacks?

[fossil thistle]

🤷‍♂️

yes

[torn rivet]

fair enough

[fossil thistle]

3+ target Cleave -> ms

2 target Ms -> Cleave

[torn rivet]

i strayed away from using Both

seems like that's a mistake 😄

i was like 3+ = Cleave, <3 = MS. Not both

thanks brother in arms

[fossil thistle]

You cleave 2t after sending MS with 2 OP esp with SS up as the slam it casts from Ferver of Battle will cleave

[torn rivet]

good point, I totally forgot about that

[fossil thistle]

(patiently waiting for someone to correct me)

[kindred mesa]

I think i get arms in m+ but can you guys answer me 1 question please ? I don't know if i hold my empowered cleave until i get colossus/Demolish are back up or do i just send it after sweeping ends

[spiral coral]

practicing at dummies

But feel free to send it without 10 stacks if you’re having trouble lining stuff up/getting your rotation out

Hitting in the wb window and making sure your stuff resyncs right is more important

[torn rivet]

all good now

[wooden tide]

really only hold it if you can do it naturally

[kindred mesa]

what do you mean by that ?

[torn rivet]

if like, the pack ends really soon and you can't really make much of it

no point sending the emp cleave if the fight lasts for about 2-5 more seconds

better keep for the next one

[dire hinge]

Nope you got it 🔥

Side note, this is a fun example of something called Cunningham’s Law 😂

“the best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer”

[fossil thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-star-noted-notes-gif-26231953

[vestal spade]

Anyone know why my mate has different overall to me on details? 😮

[smoky kayak]

also the best way to get banned on the internet

[dire hinge]

Lmfao, it can be used tastefully. Such as: “I should just send Demolish regardless of stacks, right?”

People will crawl out of the woodwork to correct you since they see you’ve assumed the wrong opinion, and want to help get you on the right tracks, compared to “should I send demolish without stacks?”

Words are fun

(But yes, don’t be an asshole with it)

[dire hinge]

One of you likely played differently, such as having a slightly different rotation, or one of you held cooldowns when the other sent them

If you have a screenshot we can probably give better insights, but it’s all gonna be speculative. A log would be ideal

[spiral coral]

This is so true

If I came in here asking about rotation I’d get an answer or two but if I came here saying some crazy shit about the rotation it would be 5+ ppl saying “you’re an idiot what are you talking about” (deservingly so)

[dire hinge]

Brains are funny and everyone is trying to help 🥰

[twin hazel]

Void Touched Fragment any good?

[grave mulch]

Morning! i was just reading the update channel... How much of an increase is this for slayer arms?

very interesting

[analog laurel]

Is Vessel of Acceleration from TW on the hero track worth trying in M+ if can't get idol/pace maker yet

[minor gust]

not much

[spiral coral]

We’re (arms) playing fury now

It’s so fun lol

[grave mulch]

yeah na we arent

[finite grotto]

They just need to buff single target a little for colo and we are good

I’m having a blast with warrior

[balmy kindle]

Spinny fury build very fun

[onyx rapids]

is colossus Demolish a frontal cone attack range? i thought it was a circle range from character..

[minor gust]

It is a frontal cone

[onyx rapids]

damn..... now this is a surprise...

[shadow ibex]

pray for colossus buff

[onyx rapids]

is it possible to buff colossus single target without buffing slayer arms as well?! Tier set bonus buff maybe?!

[balmy kindle]

Just buff

Tier set buff or revert back to 100% would be nice but prot is alr spanking most tanksn

[shadow ibex]

tier buffs yea

[balmy kindle]

But tier set buffs would mean prot be absolutely crazy tho

Unless its arms only

[dry frost]

Idk

Arms feels strong

Its not meta by any means but like I have still found great success with it

[teal fossil]

not how it works

the stacks go first

any excess stacks go CDR

[shadow ibex]

the tier changes are kinda insane

the one thing colossus had was a nice aoe lead over fury slayer and could just cope about bad ST

[dry frost]

Did I miss something? What tier changes

[latent moss]

slayer 4p used to be per cast

now its per target

[dry frost]

Oh the hotfix okay

[latent moss]

fury has 5 chances of 20% to proc a 50% stronger reap

and thats kinda strong xdd

[dry frost]

Does dreadnaught count as additional targets for op?

[latent moss]

(its very strong)

no

[dry frost]

Damn

[latent moss]

arms only gets 2 chances

[minor gust]

meaningless for arms

insane for fury

just how it is

[dry frost]

They should change that

[minor gust]

im good slurry owns

[latent moss]

ngl i dont think there is an argument for arms anymore

[minor gust]

to mortal strike the mini boss in HOA das it

[dry frost]

Ngl idc abount balance I will still just play arms cause I dont really enjoy fury

[latent moss]

colo arms still has bit better uncapped aoe maybe

[minor gust]

well colossus is pretty good

[dry frost]

And I play slayer in keys because I like execute

[latent moss]

but st is legit nothing compared to slayer fury

[minor gust]

colossus will do fine its just a why play colossus if slayer fury is better but both feel good in keys

just fury better

[dry frost]

Idk slayer arms has been enjoyable and has worked well for me so far

Only up to 13s but still

[minor gust]

my man play whats fun

hell yeah

Slayer arms can be so chill in keys

its a vibe

[dry frost]

Slayer is a vibe

[lethal acorn]

I play Colossus Arms in raid because it's what's fun for me

I'm glad it's good in M+

Colossus is a vibe for me in all content

[dry frost]

I really liked the no rend slayer build last week for the weekly 10s for vault

Stacking jugg on affix went hard

[shadow ibex]

may slayer rot in hell

with jug and storm of swords

[dry frost]

I play the rend variant for 12+

[balmy kindle]

The fury spinner build still does lesser aoe dmg in big pulls though

It does however do impressive boss damage

Will still play colossus mostly

[warped ether]

Colossus feels real wacky with bad tanks

[balmy kindle]

You can mitigate that by sending shockwave into demolish though if its really bad.

My tank now is like: lemme call out CCs

[weak willow]

I'm not in raid so I can't check this but I just had a thought

Is Second Wind just like, permanently disabled on Dimensius lol

[balmy kindle]

If there's constant raid dmg then yeah second wind wont work

[pearl wind]

i think the slayer fury hotfix might force me to play fury tbh

even though i don't like it, it was already so good ST now it's blastin aoe

[balmy kindle]

Give it a try it's pretty nasty

Like it's just rampage rb rb

[pearl wind]

at least colossus arms had big aoe going for it

dont have to aim colossus smash perfectly just raging blow all day

[balmy kindle]

Colo still better for big pulls though, will probably use fury for DB streets

[pearl wind]

dont have to stress about colossus stacks in downtime

like in streets bar boss

[balmy kindle]

For sure, low target count dungeon too

[pearl wind]

im gonna practice with it after raid i havent played fury at all this xpac

[balmy kindle]

Nw it's legit just rampage into raging blow

Press whirlwind for meat cleaver stacks and rinse repeat

[weak willow]

I haven't played Fury this season yet

do you even bother about rage capping

I've seen a lot of Fury warriors where they just keep spamming raging blow even though they were rage capped ages ago

[balmy kindle]

Yeah because RB is nasty

[weak willow]

yeah

I don't like tbh

Rampage spamming feels better

[balmy kindle]

Oh well I mean I still like but I will play fury if it fits the dungeon and comp

Yeah rampage being priority feels better

[weak willow]

One of my favourite memories from BFA was having so much haste and rage gen at some point that I was able to press Rampage 7 times back to back

[final basalt]

anyone else having issues with Sims not putting reap the storm damage in the quick sim?

[minor gust]

check under cleave

[final basalt]

OH okay

thank you

[solar nexus]

Good evening gentlemen, quick question, is the aim for arms to maintain juggernaut the whole fight? Or we sending SD procs pronto?

[kindred oak]

are we back to ascension and writhing armor banding and what gear are we crafting after weapon?

[dire hinge]

End-game you do 2x dawnthread, but this early in the season it's fine to do Weapon (ascension) and writhing armor band, then as the season progresses you can replace them later
WoWhead Guide // [Discord Post](#updates-midnight message)

[kindred oak]

ty

doing it on wrist now

[spring rune]

Feels bad to catch mythic weapon from vault after you crafted 2h already

[latent moss]

fury time

[spiral coral]

[sudden wagon]

is there any pre wall drop tech for arms

or pre key insert

[stable fiber]

you can pre stack might buff

from what i remember thats true

[fossil thistle]

Prepot?

[stable fiber]

prepot is every spec

[fossil thistle]

All I can think of really

We’re just not cool

[slow saddle]

And this should be conidered, cheating

In any spec

[smoky kayak]

you know what else is cheating? You can talent Second Wind, untalent it, and keep the buff!

[slow saddle]

Tell me more

[slow saddle]

And dk exploits

[smoky kayak]

my buffs are covered by the giant ass talent pane, but there's the tooltip

too bad the buff falls off as soon as you take damage though

[latent moss]

when u lose it

do u get it back

[queen garden]

Now would be cool if we get a similar 4p/interaction "fix" for slayer arms while using dreadnaught

[smoky kayak]

no, cause you don't have the talent anymore

[slow saddle]

what?

its fixxed on arms ?

sweep twice the chance

dreadnaught is not an op. dreadnaught is a sep wave no?

[smoky kayak]

correct, dreadnaught does not trigger it

[hasty pumice]

ey thats cool, fury warrior gets an undocumented change and arms will get nerfed by delve belt nerf

ik everyone will but the crit was pretty huge

[storm lark]

But it doesnt really matter. Belt nerf will come with turbo boost so u would replace belt anyway

[boreal remnant]

didn't you say you lose the buff when you take damage

[smoky kayak]

yeah right here

its a bug, just an incredibly unimpactful one

[boreal remnant]

xd

[balmy kindle]

Depending on ones gear I suppose but it seems really easy to hit 22k+ crit this season, I am in DR territory

Anyone tested wrecking throw for eco dome ?

[boreal remnant]

#fury message

[lofty pulsar]

so i have an incredibly dumb question

in weakauras. how do i move like the top like 4-5 buttons above the rage bar/my basic rotation

like i saw critcake do that and im like wow im mindblown

[void bay]

You mean actual buttons eg blizzard ui ones, or the weak aura display eg non buttons?

[lofty pulsar]

weakaura display tooltips/buttons

like i want mortal strike overpower and basic stuff on top

[void bay]

Wa doesn't have buttons, it's just ui... But do /wa, then left click the wa package, then drill down to the bits you want to move then just drag the ui elements

[void lily]

Alright I need help choosing a new race for my warrior. Tired of cow on every character lol

[acoustic mulch]

do you try Dogs? Little or Big ones?

[void bay]

gnome

[void lily]

That was my first thought. Or worgen

[void bay]

female gnomes with a massive 2hander as big as they are, are just funny to me....especially when they push in your shit in pvp (but i very very rarely do that)

[void lily]

Most dangerous ant charging your ass lol

[fresh spire]

[cosmic garden]

why colossus is better from arms?

it seems so much more relaxing to play slayer

[fresh spire]

Better damage for higher targets

[empty sluice]

Yea if u turn off details

[fresh spire]

Sd is a little clunky

[empty sluice]

Make sd proc reap

[dim basalt]

Giving them set ideas for next S1 huh

[noble kernel]

anyone using dctorio wa

[fresh spire]

Real

[balmy kindle]

I envy how fury is just spam rb

Can't deny it's pretty good though please blizz don't nerf

[forest perch]

Does sweeping strike 2nd target helps proc slayer strike?

[fresh spire]

Real

[rapid magnet]

ye overpower also got the interaction but 1 extra target on a less pressed button isnt as strong as for fury RB spam

it doesnt apply to cleave since its just overpower on the 4set

should be cleave/ms for arms instead u cant change my mind

[boreal remnant]

yes

hi praetorus

[rapid magnet]

was normal reap the storm on cleave 20% per cast before or 20% per target

hi bolvar

[rapid magnet]

just did an arms slayer key and felt like reap is way higher than before so maybe it was also changed?

[forest perch]

The 20% chance feels too low at times lol

[forest perch]

Maybe just good rng?

[rapid magnet]

dno

i got hit dummy for a bit

[forest perch]

They should make cleave increase the chance per every 3 target

[rapid magnet]

theres a lot of things they should do to arms

[forest perch]

For sure

Buff execute!

[rapid magnet]

ok like

no joke

its proccing on every cleave on 5 targets

mind its the 100% dmg one not 150% from tier set tho

[forest perch]

I feel like when its a big pull, im focusing more in spamming cleave and ms than id be hitting op

The reset is more frequent than it should be

[balmy kindle]

Yeah slayer arms spinny build doesn't click the same

Cause you really wanna smash

[rapid magnet]

2.5 mins 430 cleavs 150 reaps doesnt rly seem as good

[balmy kindle]

Also we don't get bs back that fast as well fury legit can get 2 BS in a pull

[rapid magnet]

just got rly lucky at the start

i actually hate the direction they've taken this tier for warrior

[forest perch]

Fury seems to be enjoying thiers

[livid cloak]

I like the colossus bonuses

[rapid magnet]

they doubled down on making fury spam RB and arms still gets fucked by juggernaut despite the increased proc from tier

[forest perch]

Im enjoying arms still even tho it feels weird

[rapid magnet]

im just coping trying to play arms for last couple in raid

[balmy kindle]

Colo arms fucks just needs abit more boss damage

[forest perch]

Prot warrior is having a good time tho

[rapid magnet]

fury and prot are tuned well for sure

fury its a gameplay problem for me not a tuning problem

[forest perch]

They should fix the 4pc for slayer for execute to proc reap

[rapid magnet]

the gameplay is somewhat brainrot at this point

[forest perch]

Instead of op

Now that would be fun

Its better than execute clap

And feels like it syncs with the 2pc

[rapid magnet]

idk what they should do honestly

feels like arms should have 100% juggernaut uptime if it has boss uptime with the way its balanced

[forest perch]

They need to hire someone that love arms for class design lol

[rapid magnet]

but u can still just get rng fked

its rarer but it happens

and this tier has a lot of forced juggernaut resets throughout

[balmy kindle]

Idk but I am juggernaut hater, it's too much all or nothing

[rapid magnet]

it would unironically be ok if it was 5 stacks like ashen

[balmy kindle]

Arms should revolve around mortal strike more

[zealous dock]

I love playing the wheelchair (8/8N, 4/8H, not big boy)

[rapid magnet]

its just too punishing to drop atm

[balmy kindle]

It does have it's uses like when progging with bads

[dim basalt]

If only it worked like we want it to

[balmy kindle]

But once bosses go into farm mode it's pain

[rapid magnet]

hot take but rend can fuck off

spec is not for maintenance dots its for big numbers

[dim basalt]

Oh nvm the col set is only 1 MS anyway

[rapid magnet]

i like the demolish part but the dot part just bothers me

[forest perch]

I think rend is fine

But tclap capping rend to 5 feels bad in big pulls

[balmy kindle]

I personally think rend should be baked into deep wounds too

[rapid magnet]

i think its just pure bloat

especially with tclap only doing 5 targets

sure its been in the game forever but its an ancient relic at this point

[balmy kindle]

Well there's arms on midnight preview 🙏

Surely we are gonna get a 3 page rework

[outer forge]

3 sentence*

[forest perch]

3 words

Stays the same

[outer forge]

3 letters (ass)

[forest perch]

😭

[glacial rapids]

🤣

[rapid magnet]

3 letters (jug)

[outer forge]

zug

[rapid magnet]

optional j or z

just ug

[glacial rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/redblockcustom-man-no-arms-indian-arms-no-arms-man-standing-gif-17755513251794797743

Heading into Midnight we will continue to be legs...

[forest perch]

Maybe we'll finally see a use for spear

[balmy kindle]

Isn't spear like strictly PvP only though

[forest perch]

They could make it useful pve if they want to

[balmy kindle]

Without it being utterly obnoxious in PvP though is my thoughts

For starters they can make it the crit version of roar maybe

[forest perch]

Pvp balance is a whole new can of worm

[balmy kindle]

Tell me more, we paying PvP tax since forever

Meanwhile Ret

[forest perch]

Ret is just kids that crys over everything when they aren't the star

[balmy kindle]

Rets when they can't global peeps in pvp🐵

[outer forge]

i played ret in s1 and 2. Would be amazing if warrior could get the kind of love that ret gets.

[balmy kindle]

They are the biggest player base

Blizzard will never offend their biggest oilers

[forest perch]

And isnt midnight catering to pally as well?

[lyric warren]

i tried to check top 10 arms warriors in raider io but they were all fury atm for some reason, what's the bis stats for arms in m+ rn ?

[balmy kindle]

I believe you know the answer

[forest perch]

Crit for that juicy demolish

[forest perch]

[lyric warren]

crit all the way or cap at 25k or something

[forest perch]

Until DR i guess, other stats will eventually be worth more due to it, but getting that big crit during wb window feels nice

[outer forge]

only way to know for sure is to sim. There's no hard rule. Generally we want to get a bunch of crit and haste but you should always sim to guide your gear choices.

[forest perch]

Yeah can't neglect vers, sometimes its a nice increase to overall

A 5% is a 5%

[silent saddle]

tried slayer fury with the new hotfix, but maaan I just love arms too much

don't think it converts me

[balmy kindle]

There's some merit using it mostly on dB streets and maybe eco dome

[outer forge]

without a substantial single target buff, it kinda feels like trolling playing arms right now after that fury change

aoe damage within a fraction of a percent and significantly higher single target for fury

[spiral coral]

server maint on a thursday morning is so wack

https://tenor.com/view/cat-attack-dog-gif-9883424924076794253

[shadow ibex]

Yea colossus p hard to justify now

[unkempt wren]

Even before the hotfix, slayer fury felt better than fury has in a while but its just still gross. I barely lasted 2 weeks before.taking a small downgrade in gear and going back xD

[outer forge]

they gonna shadow buff mortal strike by 20 %. trust.

[forest perch]

Nah we getting a 3% aura nerf cause ppl start seeing numbers

[silent saddle]

Yeah, Thane I didn't mind because it kind of played itself. Your big prio spells also maintained upkeep of cleave and enrage. With Slayer it just feels like enrage is always falling off and you're running out of cleave

[grave mulch]

Give arms another 8%

fr

[silent saddle]

I just want some more st

[lost flare]

Meta comp Flood +13

[silent saddle]

lol fantastic. Needs a mistweaver

[rapid magnet]

u would deprive the arms warriors of skyfury ⛔

[silent saddle]

Dang true

[olive nest]

Damn that’s sick!

[silent saddle]

do we know what this patch did today? I don't see any info on wowhead

[slow saddle]

didnt change anything

[silent saddle]

womp

was hoping for halls tuning

[slow saddle]

u consider halls hard?

[smoky kayak]

I don't have any stats on hand, but I defo feel like Halls is one of the worst keys this season

[soft gust]

Agreed

Lots of things that just kill your tank if not handled well that aren’t really as present in other keys

[glacial rapids]

Halls along with Arakara are the two most bricked keys this season. Saw the stats for each dungeon the other day.

[soft gust]

I really like Halls, but if someone misses loyal beasts interrupt or pull extra in the courtyard when tank doesnt have cds then its basically an insta wipe

[glacial rapids]

I know that unless im pushing io that week. I will skip those two along with streets.

[slow saddle]

streets is rather free though

[glacial rapids]

Not always

I've run into plenty of tanks that pull more than they need to. Or dps that struggle on the last boss.

[spiral coral]

People be doing too much on that last boss. People won’t just chill out and look at shapes

[void bay]

I always found halls utterly miserable, from the hounds that enrage, the shard dudes that do the earthquake and take forever to die, and the stupid church miniboss and the 200000 adds

[slow saddle]

hmm i like halls

:S

havent dont it above 11 though

so like prob scales

[smoky kayak]

I don't dislike the dungeon, but its definitely harder than most this season

[slow saddle]

yeah i mean the tank busters are pretty real 😛

[minor gust]

Halls is the hardest dungeon by far right now

[stable fiber]

halls is the hardest dungeon

its not close

[minor gust]

Yeah

I love posting a halls 16 even 15 key and there's gonna be ppl with all 16s and 17s signing up because it's their last key for resil

Basically if you wanna time a halls right now it's all on your tank as you need to chain pull to an extreme degree to make it.

[loud wadi]

Is it just me that the 4pc bonus from colossus arms seems odd for the spec proposal? Why not make Cleave also have the MS effects with the bonus?

[hallow vale]

Tbh free key if you pass the first boss zone. Only big dmg is required after that...

[minor gust]

That's the hard part is how well you do the first area

A lot of groups fail cuz they spend to much time in that area and don't have enough time for the rest of the key

Bricked a 16 halls yesterday that we would have timed right before 2nd boss

Tank was super impatient and lept up the stairs to 2nd boss while there was still groundskeepers running around. But gargoyles were gonna spawn in 10 so we had to run up to follow him and a grounds keeper survived boomy dots and rogue bleeds with like 1% and pulled triple garg while we were doing 2nd boss

[untold trench]

smh, you didnt execute em?

your fault

4m ST is alright in M+ atm, ye? Not sure how scuffed that is or not

As ppl post sims doing 5m ST

[viral locust]

halls kinda ok if you got kickers

imo

[smoky kayak]

still harder than p much everything else

again, I don't think it's a bad dungeon; I actually like the thematics, it's just not one of the easy ones either

[viral locust]

yea gotta have good kickers, good route and chain pull hard

just did a 16 with 15s to spare, boomie died worst possible moment lol on last add in lust

lost so much time

last mini boss*

[minor gust]

For arms that's good for Slayer fury that's low

[untold trench]

Ish ya recommend to aim for as fury, pure ST event?

[minor gust]

I'm usually 4.5 - 5 mil depending on CDs

[untold trench]

Aighto, thanks matie

[minor gust]

Then if you got a cool tank who pulls onto boss you winning at 6-7 mil

First boss HOA goes hard with that middle pack pulled onto or one of the sides

[viral locust]

second boss goes harded with add pad kekw

huge pad lol

[royal needle]

Id love to know this as well

[maiden cairn]

What trinket would be more preferrable Zephyrium Pacemaker or Astral Antenna (same track/ilvl)? The Antenna sims higher but i read somewhere that the buff uptime from the sims is noticeably lower in reality.... Any experiences regarding this dilemma?

[reef glade]

idk pretty hard to not get the antenna buff the ball chases you for 20 seconds

unless you’re doing like high movement and going super far away from one pack to the next frequently or something think antenna yappers are just dumb it’s good

a very few times I’ve noticed my ball kinda just not moving idk if it got stuck in something or what

[ivory quartz]

isnt there a sim option for antenna with like a 20% miss rate too

[reef glade]

but like I def don’t think I’m missing balls like at all

maybe a wa could be a little helpful to track the buff showing u how many balls are active

just to like more easily look at how many there are

[maiden cairn]

maybe they get stuck hitting invisible bunnies sometimes... Thanks for the info ^^

[vast helm]

Time-Lost Worldbreaker why this mace so small?

[halcyon valve]

Why the fuck is there a filthy fury in our glorious arms channel

[noble kernel]

anyone using doctorio wa? I don't understand the white border what does it mean for mortal strike

[minor gust]

Because Blizz loves making 2h weapons the size of a big 1h

[vast helm]

https://tenor.com/view/frank-drebin-leslie-nielsen-naked-gun-funny-surprised-gif-7607922418988056124

[minor gust]

I still won't forgive them for making a new up rez of maladath from classic BWL in DF keeping it the same size but calling it a 2h wep

Shit was disgusting

[vast helm]

Agree.

[wanton sierra]

agree

[warped ether]

came back from semi season 1 on saturday