#arms
wooden lava
the giant nuke hit hero talent is used for aoe
the aoe ability centered hero talent is used for st
spiral coral
after watching Deswind ima play some udk real quick got damn
shadow ibex
the giant nuke hit hero talent is used for aoe
both also apply debuffs
although tbf demolish isnt maintained ow is
crisp reef
in keys is demolish only ever used with warbreaker, even if its up sooner or is there an amount of time max you would hold it for to line up
im sure the math exists
spiral coral
Yes. If wb is within like 8ish secs of coming up just hold demo
wooden lava
in keys is demolish only ever used with warbreaker, even if its up sooner or is ...
you will have a limited number of uses on demolish, so it's valuable to line it up with WB
idk the exact amount of time beofre you just send
but in general, if you do your rotation correctly
Demo and WB will always be up within a short period of each other
I've almost never had a situation where WB and Demo were heavily desynced
at most like 12-15 seconds, which is more like 6-7 seconds from AM effects
spiral coral
Wb should be used religiously and hitting your CDs in the wb is quite essential to overall damage
spiral coral
Tho for some reason if your wb is behind your demo and more than like 8-12 secs don’t be holding your demo just send that shit and get back lined up when you can.
wooden lava
especially if you have a large pack to farm it back
if i send demo on ST
takes forever to get back
on aoe, it's literally free
playing blord feels so good man
what was blizz thinking, putting it in such a shit spot
that it can't be taken with slayer
wooden lava
i've never chased fotm or new classes, but if warrior is still doodoo next xpac
i'm going straight for the most op fotm disgusting spec
and abusing it til it gets nerfed
spiral coral
They better have some cooked up events for us
Cause this season is gonna be longgggggggggggg
wooden lava
I'm learning lock lol
I've given up on warrior this season
Just playing it during prog
then logging off to go play something more real
I think i'll push for like 3600 io on dps warrior tho
warrior in M+ feels good
shadow ibex
what was blizz thinking, putting it in such a shit spot
spiteful serenity just appeared one day
when they changed us in DF s1 to use OP instead of slam
dont think it was ever on ptr just one day spiteful existed
wooden lava
bro all they'd need to do is just invite revvez, tmy, riku, and a afew other warriors to a think tank
shadow ibex
stuff like that happens and ppl think we have like dedicated devs idk how
wooden lava
and cook something up that all warriors would love
they'd do it for free
it's insane
wooden lava
to have literal gods of the class available for easy contact
and they dont take advantage of it
they can't even design proper capstone talents
wooden lava
the only reason i've held off of casters
it sucks to try to do delves/keys with them
spiral coral
fire mage is so fun, zoom zoom
wooden lava
I almost exclusively tank everything the first 2 weeks
grave mulch
i miss SKB fire mage
wooden lava
then I start dpsing
I might pick up mage too
I just CBA with learning 3 dps specs
going from zug zug warrior to spriest was a huge culture shock
spiral coral
I just pretend I’m playing warrior on my fire mage tbh. You stay in melee range, also I give mages a good name by actually fucking interrupting and stunning
wooden lava
I just pretend I’m playing warrior on my fire mage tbh. You stay in melee range,...
real shit
grave mulch
SKB is the only reason i i play fire. The control into extended control on combust
wooden lava
ranged players are disgusting troglodytes who don't understand the concept of playing for the team
grave mulch
ranged players are disgusting troglodytes who don't understand the concept of pl...
Hunters mainly
wooden lava
their kits are insanely overloaded
yet never used
like ret pallies
when i started playing one, i literally never let bubble stay on CD
i used that shit as a DPS cd to stay in shit so I could dps
spiral coral
Actually got mad when I started learning ranged classes two seasons ago
When I found out… how much they can do, but just… don’t?
wooden lava
having shit tanks is nowhere near as bad when you're ranged
wooden lava
When I found out… how much they can do, but just… don’t?
RIGHT?
bro it's so disgusting how much ranged players get away with
spiral coral
BUT at the same time I forget good warriors eat up a lot of the interrupts and stuns
wooden lava
especially as a warrior
spiral coral
So rose tinted goggles
wooden lava
we're geeking out over getting a knockup on shockwave
meanwhile those freaks get everything
wooden lava
BUT at the same time I forget good warriors eat up *a lot* of the interrupts and...
i'm pretty much 25+ interrupts every dungeon unless I have a good prot pally
+storm bolt +shockwave
I just wish we still had intimidating shout as a realistic talent
does it even exist anymore?
granite coral
Give us disrupting shout on rally
wooden lava
disrupting shout has turned prot from a shitty unloveable freak tank
to an amazing one
getting all 6 interrupts on the 2nd boss of Halls of Atonement
I bust a nut
shadow ibex
I just wish we still had intimidating shout as a realistic talent
our class tree is so fucked
after 3? or 4? reworks
all we've accomplished is shockwave is easy to get
but now i always have to have tclap or stormbolt even if i dont need them
or intervene or w/e that cursed path is
wooden lava
thank god we at least get something
I feel like the general talent tree (outside of roar/spear) is not bad
being able to take shattering throw has been nice on plexus
shadow ibex
i could do without honed reflexes
i wish we could shout/kick while spinning and using demo
and if piercing howl was good
shadow ibex
you can use it on orbs on forge if you want
but thats only time i think its seen pve use ever p much
even when we had mop talent trees
fast wedge
should i craft weapon first if i dont have one or follow teh guide and do wrist / belt?
magic canopy
wep will always be the biggest upgrade, but at this point i would wait for your vault to do anything
worse cast situation you can craft a weapon and bracer/ or belt next week with the sparks and then the other piece in 2 weeks from there
wep always has highest priority tho
boreal hawk
ah ok thats what i was noticing
alright
i was trying talents from critcake, is not that bad
did 6.4m in a 15+ dawnbreaker dunno if its good or not
but felt ok
lofty pulsar
anybody know the crit cutoff points/diminishing returns
cause apparently im gaining 150k dps swapping out a ring lol
magic canopy
if you gain a lot more haste its probably why
crit is an important stat for arms, especially for colossus, but haste is the real primary stat
most of warriors resource generation comes from haste which is why its so important
grand idol
Haste thresholds do exist still, but they are so numerous they are typically not mentioned and can rarely cause a wild unexpected swing.
lofty pulsar
most of warriors resource generation comes from haste which is why its so import...
yeah swapping out DB ring for signet of collapsing stars gives me like a crapton of dps. that said i was on 46% crit lol
40% base but now im at 35% with more haste and alot more vers
magic canopy
yeah that ring i think is actually ppart of the bis setup for arms
for keys you might go into crit a little more heavily, but without enough haste you dont get the rage generation needed to keep hitting buttons
oil for the engine so to speak
stark cape
yall prefer Fury or Arms in High Gambit Key? like 14+
magic canopy
tbh i think both are equally worth playing
its possible colossus might end up being the way to go again especially if arms receives another buff
but weirdly enough most of the bosses arent that scary the trash is. so more big trash dam goes hard in some keys
stark cape
Think my "safe spec" is fury just from years and years of play time
arms is so much more fun though
weak wave
So the prio as No Rend Slayer in Execute phase is Exe > MS > OP?
nova marsh
Think my "safe spec" is fury just from years and years of play time
If you're used to fury, fury is 100% the safe spec
Not even because of comfort, but also because fury is a good deal tankier then arms
slow saddle
for keys you might go into crit a little more heavily, but without enough haste ...
Haste is rage neutral
balmy kindle
If you're used to fury, fury is 100% the safe spec
But m+ target cap
might be uncapped but realistically you are not beating Colo arms or any aoe oriented spec
nova marsh
But m+ target cap <:keks:936231610850897992>
<:blast:1248120836813226099> might...
But not eating shit
Also I said safe, not best
balmy kindle
Being bad in raid honestly is not a problem for me since m+ is like the 90% of a season 
Being mid in raid and bad in m+ is infinitely worse
balmy kindle
Also I said safe, not best
You sure fury is safe though at the upper end of raid ranks
nova marsh
Safe. As in. defensivesly
Im not talking about meta
.....but yeah fury getting nerfed and arms is too repeat of s1 I know
Can't wait to get baited with year old patch notes
balmy kindle
I think after the buffs arms got in S2 defensively it's quite close tbh, but dbts has saved my ass and saved keys wayy too many times
nova marsh
Idk man, its hard to compare to war paint and an almost stupid amount of self heals
balmy kindle
Hmm considering I have a havoc I would argue havoc has better self heals though legit can't be killed unless it's one shot
War paint and dstance is certainly really good for taking mechanics tho
stable fiber
All Arms Warrior damage increased by 8%
light sentinel
Is there a skill that applies rend? or do i need to use it myself?
lofty pulsar
thunder clap
dont even use rend
also, how do i sim which gems will give me best dps
void bay
also, how do i sim which gems will give me best dps
tick the box in raidbots, but you are severely limited unless you have premium due to the number of permutations
hasty pumice
dont even use rend
Rend is technically a DPS upgrade over tclap for 1-2 targets
halcyon valve
Safe. As in. **defensivesly**
At least in heroic (not really enough data for mythic yet imo), arms and fury are very even in how often they die
Also the amount of self healing for fury isnt that much more than arms
swift crown
At least in heroic (not really enough data for mythic yet imo), arms and fury ar...
Death stats are turbo fake 
halcyon valve
swift crown
It's not even about HPS
Fury has perma DR from being enraged and a bunch more stam from using a second 2h
grave mulch
We sandbagging healing parses now as arms warriors? im here for it
viral locust
Death stats are turbo fake <:okayge:917646812519739433>
First death on ansurek always on my hunter because of feign death kekw
swift crown
Do not look at top 10% deaths on Nexus-King Mythic
Can't trust a stat you didn't fake yourself
lofty pulsar
my sim says take one against many. is simming usually right
minor gust
how many targets did you sim at
fast forge
At least in heroic (not really enough data for mythic yet imo), arms and fury ar...
because we dont press BT is fury anymore with p4
apart from last resort spell
so self healing is alot less than if the rotation wasnt a shitshow
untold pewter
Safe. As in. **defensivesly**
Imo fury and arms both have pretty much the same survivability and I still prefer Arms because of DBTS saving my ass if aggro issues happen
latent moss
well ur opinion is just wrong
slayer fury is noticeably tankier
than slayer arms
colo arms is quite tanky tho
untold pewter
Most of the time when doing actually challenging content you're dying to 1-shots, it makes 0 difference
latent moss
ye and thats where more stam from 2nd 2h and warpaint come into play the most
untold pewter
The stamina won't help, the dr won't help. Just avoid the damage or die either way.
latent moss
cause fury can live some 1shots that arms can't
hasty pumice
true
especially if you go def stance
with def stance swapping you can avoid pmuch every single one shot, I dont think farover in S2 was ever concerned with needing more DR as arms col
untold pewter
The game has long since shifted to "avoid or die" or "dr or die". Small rot and shit won't make any difference unless your healers are asleep
At which point you'll still be fearing for your life on either specs
swift crown
The game has long since shifted to "avoid or die" or "dr or die". Small rot and ...
How can you say 'DR or die' and not acknowledge that Fury's baseline EHP is a lot higher
untold pewter
People are just generally bad at using dr or healing tonics cuz most don't actually learn even after dying to stuff
Dps brain and what not
untold pewter
How can you say 'DR or die' and not acknowledge that Fury's baseline EHP is a lo...
I'm talking about pressing a defensive
untold pewter
Both specs have essentially the same defensive buttons if you actually press them and the HP difference will rarely ever make a difference
swift crown
That dogshit spec just gets to natty live shit that oneshots other characters
simple stone
i mean being at 50% and being at 90% cause of self sustain and taking the hit def makes the difference. get good healer is kinda a mute point too less they heal you more they heal someone else
untold pewter
Dude just press DStance, it's not even a gcd, done, 2x war paint
latent moss
That dogshit spec just gets to natty live shit that oneshots other characters
thane even more
8% + 2% phys
- er isnt a dps loss
its ridiculous
untold pewter
Well colossus also gets more dr
hasty pumice
i dont think some people want to pug with others
swift crown
Sure, Colo is significantly tankier than Slayer
latent moss
when thane presses er healer can just ignore u for 8s
hasty pumice
somebody posted his +15 streets, we assembled a phys comp, lead says he has to go and insta leaves
latent moss
its a literal immunity against rot
hasty pumice
and then posts his key again
halcyon valve
Dude just press DStance, it's not even a gcd, done, 2x war paint
Also spell reflect is free for both specs and so much more impactful
latent moss
gg
halcyon valve
and then posts his key again
Lmao
untold pewter
I'm talking about how it actually plays out
Arms only dies where fury wouldn't when they don't go into defensive stance and that's objectively speaking skill issue, not a "spec has less survivability" thing
swift crown
somebody posted his +15 streets, we assembled a phys comp, lead says he has to g...
Sorry fish caught on fire
hasty pumice
i whispered him "lil troll"
and he just said "sure" , he cant even accept it
wait we dont have kekw here mb
swift crown
I'm talking about how it *actually* plays out
Arms only dies where fury wouldn'...
Just checking you are aware multiple DRs can be active at the same time right
Cause this is objectively wrong
untold pewter
It's just not
Literally map your defensives and you'll never ever think about fury vs arms survivability
The only difference is fury gets to be lazy about it
Problem is most dps don't even know what's killing them
Use defensives AFTER the damage, etc
untold pewter
"Oh I took a 70%" hit time to die by the sword
Followed by 20 seconds of no damage taken
hasty pumice
the panic def
untold pewter
Classic
halcyon valve
Face tank the 80% hp damage, then press defensive for the 20% hp follow up so you dont die, let the healers get parses man
hasty pumice
omg healer???
i literally pressed def!
why didnt you heal me back to full?
time to learn how to use SKS properly
enough buffooning
i enjoy button bloat
spiral coral
Just press after demo then use on cd
upbeat kayak
On a m+ opener would you always send demolish on 10 stacks or would you send on lower stacks sometimes?
hasty pumice
just stack up quickly with sweeps + MS
untold pewter
If somehow you failed to get to 10 before warbreaker is over just send it
But you want 10
spiral coral
Sending before wb window expires is the most important
untold pewter
Sweep+ms+ravager will get you there though
Make sure you're in range to actually auto cast ravager MS hits, you can sometimes lose some casts if a mob is moving away from you and you're not catching up
upbeat kayak
And then just send as many sweep to maintain aoe
hasty pumice
Make sure you're in range to actually auto cast ravager MS hits, you can sometim...
wait
i thought the ravager casts the MS
thats so troll
untold pewter
Nah you cast the ms lmao
untold pewter
You'll be pressing both ms and cleave during sweep anyway cuz ms will be on cooldown inevitably
upbeat kayak
Also i might sound dumb but 3 target cleave stack demolish right
upbeat kayak
I just seem to cap on like 13 mill but might just be pull size
untold pewter
With sweeping on, if 3+ targets, basically ms on cooldown and cleave, prefer to consume overpower stacks with cleave but don't delay MS because of it either
After the demolish hits and sweeping is over
That's when you kind of cleave spam
upbeat kayak
And you want to send trinket lige Stone idol right after bleeds right
untold pewter
Frankly I kind of just send with avatar before warbreaker and it lasts for most of the burst
devout pewter
does it matter what order we use MS and Skullsplitter for the set after demolish?
spiral coral
st you're supposed to send a ms after demo and then sks
multi you're supposed to send ms/cleave after demo then sks
devout pewter
ok so generally MS before sks
and you mention cleave... does it work with cleave as well? since it's not mentioned in the set
spiral coral
Just saying what wowhead says.
toxic socket
ive come back this season and was told fury for all contect but i see arms in m+ better get my arms spec ready 😛 was hoping Demolish build wouldnt be top again
devout pewter
oh it does mention it? must have completely missed it.. gonna take a look 😄
devout pewter
ive come back this season and was told fury for all contect but i see arms in m+...
😛
spiral coral
and you mention cleave... does it work with cleave as well? since it's not menti...
p sure you're just going to have a buffed cleave after demo and ms is super high prio
fresh spire
Demolish 10 stack>cleave>Mortal strikes>sks>Clap (rend low duration)>op
spiral coral
yee
toxic socket
https://tenor.com/view/soprano-get-the-fuck-outta-here-get-out-gif-14394588
wdymmmm. i prefer arms! XD but i was just hoping Slayer arms would top Demolish this tier as it was not last tier
spiral coral
wdymmmm. i prefer arms! XD but i was just hoping Slayer arms would top Demolish ...
play what you want tbh
devout pewter
^this, if you like slayer, play slayer
unless you're like in the top 1%, it doesn't matter
the only thing that matters down here with the plebs is to have fun 😄
devout pewter
massive gnomes?
hasty pumice
hell yes baby
devout pewter
so dwarfes? 😛
hasty pumice
who needs dwarves
spiral coral
Toy Story looking mog
hasty pumice
i wanna know my arms ranking but I still havent done a single ara kara as arms
past rampart
hi all, should do i use cleave when i've sweeping strinke ON ? or only OP and DS ?
devout pewter
with m+ specc, cleave uses slam when it hits at least 2 mobs, which benefits from sweeping
past rampart
yeah but someone told we, OW and DS did more damages under (under sweeping strike) than cleave so i dont know, and when i look bizentein, he did both, sometims he use it, sometims only with proc, sometimes he dont
dont really see what is the better options
devout pewter
you basically just replace mortal strike with cleave in aoe situations yeah, but I think if both of these are on cooldown it's ok to just slap a mortal strike in anways, especially with sweeping
past rampart
i see
grim haven
@boreal quartz hi
past rampart
👀
halcyon valve
hi all, should do i use cleave when i've sweeping strinke ON ? or only OP and DS...
Only use slam
boreal quartz
<@653287531038900236> hi
grüetzi
viscid mica
What’s execute prio as slayer on m+ ?
balmy kindle
2-3 stacks or when 35%
fossil quiver
wooden lava
they're comparable in M+
arms has some decent colossus fights on multi-target bosses
fury is overall better in raid
hasty pumice
big prog
lmao finally I can see the proper ranking, arms still not played at all huh
spiral coral
even in raid
mmmm no
spiral coral
What’s execute prio as slayer on m+ ?
Use the WA on wowhead
past rampart
<:monkahmm:1382590600439664751> mmmm no
😢
tacit crystal
lmao finally I can see the proper ranking, arms still not played at all huh
rip
hasty pumice
how much more based is udk than fdk
sage badge
Giga based
dim basalt
(Nobody plays this spec)
tacit crystal
@quaint otter
shadow ibex
Whenever I think about trying monk I read their talents and fuck that
Jadefire stomp seems so ass
halcyon valve
oh we posting rankings now
shadow ibex
And the hero talents
dim basalt
Jadefire stomp seems so ass
That's why nobody plays it
dim basalt
Shado Pan is fun with 4P
dim basalt
And conduit just gets clunkier with set lol
dim basalt
FoF isn't fun to press because it takes forever
And RSK hits like a wet noodle
WW is weird
And in dungeons you start falling off at +15
shadow ibex
Im surprised they haven't reworked and turned strike of windlord into that one wind cooldown shamans get
Whatever that shit is called that makes windfury proc
shadow ibex
I've never used it cuz never got a monk char that high
But just looking at the tooltip the AP is insane
boreal quartz
i rlly enjoyed s2 df ww
dim basalt
Empower abilities suck even more ass as melee
shadow ibex
It's like 900% AP?
dim basalt
I can tell you that
boreal quartz
where u had fls and tier and oneshot everything in the cd thin
the non close cd
clone
dim basalt
But yeah it does hit like a truck
dim basalt
Bugged as fuck
shadow ibex
Putting my performance in the hand of blizzard pet AI
Couldn't think of something less attractive
dim basalt
People want Serenity back
rare kite
do they tho? whenever serenity is the play, people hated it
dim basalt
do they tho? whenever serenity is the play, people hated it
SEF is just worse
But surely Arms gets a rework with Midnight so I can come back to this spec
green fern
whats the best way to sim for m+? i have like 4 trinkets haha. 7 target 4 min?
quaint otter
<@880840724193624135>
I retired to dh 
quaint otter
Someone make it
Will do later
eager sigil
whats the best way to sim for m+? i have like 4 trinkets haha. 7 target 4 min?
vibes based
quaint otter
whats the best way to sim for m+? i have like 4 trinkets haha. 7 target 4 min?
10t40s and 1t3m
slow saddle
resi 15 + bis ring
Gz
brittle agate
did anyone try the fractullus trinket in m+ ?
is it effective? pooling stacks and going brr on big packs when played around properly?
shadow ibex
you can send it with every avatar or every other
i think most ppl are just using stuff that's easier to use tho
nova marsh
resi 15 + bis ring
Huge w
compact geyser
oh we posting rankings now ?
sacred zodiac
oh we posting rankings now ?
goat
thick hamlet
are we still using last season's sudden death WA? or is there something different?
balmy kindle
oh we posting rankings now ?
Nothing personal
compact geyser
Nothing personal <:keks:936231610850897992>
nice
plush creek
Can anyone help me with my DPS? This is just a quick sim for both ST and MT for M+ collosus. I'm sutting at Ilvl 703, and i feel it should be higher than that at my gear level
vestal spade
Are there any decent video guides out there yet for Arms Warrior M+?
I found one but it seemed nooby
tiny sable
Can anyone help me with my DPS? This is just a quick sim for both ST and MT for ...
wdym help
robot doesnt lie
shrewd adder
chat gpt does
tiny sable
Are there any decent video guides out there yet for Arms Warrior M+?
what exactly are you looking for?
afaik nothing rly changed from last season
vestal spade
what exactly are you looking for?
I'm new to warrior this season, learn better from videos than reading Icy veins or something
just wondered if there was one that anyone would recommend that was current
thick kelp
Can anyone help me with my DPS? This is just a quick sim for both ST and MT for ...
looks normal for thane
idk watch bizentein
plush creek
wdym help
I can't figure out if it's good dmg compared to my gearlevel. Seems like every other warrior is doing more dmg than me. I'm ending the dungeons at 4,5-5 million overall, but ending up not timing the keys due to low DPS
tiny sable
I can't figure out if it's good dmg compared to my gearlevel. Seems like every o...
that does seem rather low overall, but if sims tell you thats your number that is indeed your number
but low overall can be the result of many things, personal mistakes/bad play or slow/small pulls by tank for example
plush creek
that does seem rather low overall, but if sims tell you thats your number that i...
True. I feel like im doing everything i can, and i hit the sim DPS pretty close most of the time. Which means its a gearing / spec issue, and i can't really pinpoint where to actually improve on it, as i'm seeing other warriors do more dmg
tiny sable
log your keys and compare what your doing vs other people doing those keys
radiant dawn
is that a dungeon slice? if so it might not be entirely accurate
you could be sitting on demolish too long. you could be taking too long to stack it. maybe bad collat windows. hard to say.
plush creek
Seems like my burst / sustained is fine for the most part, but my single target is whack.
minor gust
I can't figure out if it's good dmg compared to my gearlevel. Seems like every o...
Overall is not really worth looking at to compare your performance as there's many different things that affect the outcome that you have no control over
radiant dawn
yeah i mean
if single target fights go on for a while
ur overall is going to start suffering
because m+ build sucks ass at ST
tiny sable
plus i feel like the higer your keys go, the higher your overall is
radiant dawn
if u have ST pumpers in ur party and boss fights dont last as long then ur overall wont be hamstrung
that too
bigger pulls, more demolishes per pull, likely to get good collats
tiny sable
yeah im in 13/14s atm and it feels to to be able to send 2 demolishs every pull minimum
radiant dawn
could also just be a knowledge issue for dungeons
maybe you get tanks that pull whack as fuck in accordance to ur burst
theres like a billion reasons lol
vestal spade
Do I need to have rend on bars for Single Target if I have Thunderclap?
minor gust
That's why overall is not worth looking at
latent moss
some tanks do a dungeon in 4 pulls some do in 44
minor gust
As long as you did reasonable dmg compared to the other 2 DPS your fine
latent moss
minor gust
If you want to improve in M+ you have to record yourself and vod review
tiny sable
just clap
radiant dawn
yeha thats also a point of consideration
tacit crystal
or watch others play
minor gust
Both
plush creek
As long as you did reasonable dmg compared to the other 2 DPS your fine
Totally. Its just the ST thats falling a bit behind, but it seems like its a collosus issue in general.
radiant dawn
if everyone is doing 5m dps overall in ur group and ur also doing that its probably fine. could just be the pulls r small
simply think less hit ur buttons really fucking hard
simple as
plush creek
I've just seen some arms warriors do like 6,7,8 million ST dmg which just seems insane compared to my own 3-4
tacit crystal
uh
minor gust
Totally. Its just the ST thats falling a bit behind, but it seems like its a col...
I mean yeah Colossus lacks in ST but shouldn't be massively behind others
latent moss
thats not st
tacit crystal
thats not st
latent moss
not even slayer fury does that much
tiny sable
ara13, i think my dps mates wanted me to ffel good so they sandbagged their dps
radiant dawn
yeah they're likely cleaving onto another target
latent moss
ara13, i think my dps mates wanted me to ffel good so they sandbagged their dps
isnt assa bugged
tacit crystal
or is it 6.5
radiant dawn
are you thinking about priory first boss? mobs pulled onto it?
latent moss
nothign is doing more rhan like 5.5 st
slayer fury can
tiny sable
isnt assa bugged
that assa got hardcore trolled by tank who kept chain pulling
latent moss
xddd
mortal crag
ok arms
fast wedge
why do we SS before colossus ?
latent moss
why didn't he crashout
mortal crag
@fast wedge so u can colossus cleave
tiny sable
can probably count on one hand the amount he got restealth between trash pulls
latent moss
i wouldve whispered evil things to my tank
tacit crystal
bro chain pullign isnt bad!
plush creek
I could easily have overlooked something, not saying i didn't. 5,5 still seems like a huge leap from what i'm doing right now. No pun intended
tacit crystal
its only bad if its at like 10%
latent moss
if they cant use indiscriminate carnage
minor gust
doesnt feel as bad
Basically plays exactly the same as last patch why would it feel bad
latent moss
real
minor gust
latent moss
12.0
mortal crag
we woulda had SUCH a better overall if the tank didnt accidentally pull BOTH slashers before 2nd boss
literally 2mins to kill 2mobs
tiny sable
havent played arms in raid yet, do adds just allign very good for demo on soulbinder for ppl to play arms there`?
mortal crag
KEKW
spiral coral
arms is dead
tacit crystal
we woulda had SUCH a better overall if the tank didnt accidentally pull BOTH sla...
pull those onto boss wym
latent moss
pull EVERYTHING on top of EVERYTHING
tacit crystal
we did that in my 15 hoa chatting
mortal crag
he didnt intend on pulling them
latent moss
and just cc ez
mortal crag
bruh its 0 comms pala tank pug
tacit crystal
bro
tacit crystal
slasher oblit and other caster
tacit crystal
slasher makes fun
tacit crystal
i dont have answer
minor gust
It's dead
tacit crystal
be me playing wrong color
tacit crystal
minor gust
🔮
latent moss
its dead
minor gust
Ah I see arms troll 2 is back from confirmed arms rework
tacit crystal
https://tenor.com/view/calliecalico-callie-vtuber-3am-3am-virtual-talent-gif-120...
@reef glade
latent moss
tacit crystal
mortal crag
coping that warrior regardless of spec will be viable in midnight
paladins are getting an entire expac
minor gust
mortal crag
ret paladins are the reason turtle wow is being sued btw
latent moss
i saw that
wtf is going on
classic is proof this community is regarded
#nochanges!!!
"classic sucks without random dungeon finder"
minor gust
To be fair the #nochanges crowd died out a long time ago
latent moss
as they should
minor gust
Everyone wants classic +
minor gust
Yup
latent moss
cbt qol game
minor gust
Guarantee the only reason they are taking down turtle wow is because they are about to yoink their ideas
latent moss
i sure do hope i dont get declined from this heroic group cause i share the same armor type as the leader
latent moss
get a grip gio.
minor gust
Lol you guys killed it without a dk
latent moss
get it57
minor gust
That's funny
tacit crystal
my mental was so shattered
thick kelp
Guarantee the only reason they are taking down turtle wow is because they are ab...
or they are literally showing it to their faces and @ the main blizz account 247
minor gust
The amount of wall deaths was insane
tacit crystal
idk if i have enough people to blacklist the wall deathers
minor gust
or they are literally showing it to their faces and @ the main blizz account 247
Lol that's a lil troll guess since classic exists they thought Blizz wouldn't care
Like no shot you need a raid lead to tell you when wall is coming
Like use your fucking eyes mate
tacit crystal
minor gust
Big fucking wall coming down the hall way
tiny sable
okay real question, how are you guys simming for m+?
minor gust
Gios first 2 bosses pug adventure
minor gust
2:30 hours on first boss
latent moss
axaxaxaxxaxaxa
latent moss
did u get chest
tacit crystal
no
minor gust
Well I hope you get it and not Sworbish
tacit crystal
we will be doing heroic into mythic
minor gust
For sticking through that
latent moss
i was about to ask isnt swordish na and then realized both of u are na
na pugging ig
gg
move to eu gng
u get kazzcucks inting
and sanguino
and hyjal
and idk
a lot of realms i never invite
thick kelp
Just pug 8/8 mythic with a passion pug bigsmile
tacit crystal
@reef glade
tacit crystal
Just pug 8/8 mythic with a passion pug bigsmile
true
minor gust
Yeah I just showed up on my shit DK didn't know what what was going on got roped into a mythic pug
latent moss
Just pug 8/8 mythic with a passion pug bigsmile
ranch also goated
hazy flower
Just pug 8/8 mythic with a passion pug bigsmile
Im gonna have to buy a boost…
tacit crystal
heroic into mythic
hazy flower
Tho idk for how many bosses
tacit crystal
hi myrtu
tacit crystal
when title is given
thick kelp
Im gonna have to buy a boost…
why gng
tacit crystal
bro
thick kelp
there isnt anything good in the raid
tacit crystal
@swift crown can thou come na
hazy flower
when title is given
Idk few weeks
fossil thistle
Liquid is NA.
Just donate $20,000 to their org and join the raid team.
No, no, I’m not buying CE… it’s a donation reward
hazy flower
Usually 4-6 weeks into
cunning comet
Idk few weeks
hi
minor gust
They got 1 poor intern who's got a go through it all
hazy flower
why gng
First 6 no?
Depends how puggable it will be
I also dont want to pug stuff last day of the season
latent moss
what do u want from raid
hazy flower
Idk
latent moss
idk what u playing gng
thick kelp
First 6 no?
First 6 is easy
hazy flower
Boots defo
thick kelp
only "difficutl" ones are araz and soul hunters
fossil thistle
First 6 is easy
Mythic?
tacit crystal
surely dinars are not turbo giga aids again
thick kelp
but the rest are like 3-5 pull pugs
latent moss
didnt they DESTROY araz
thick kelp
in 3 weeks
cunning comet
howm uch
cunning comet
hi
tacit crystal
hi pauck
cunning comet
i need to buy a boost
quaint otter
Needs this for dk
tacit crystal
pauck made me die in a 10 on my mage
latent moss
i need to buy a boost
for what gang
cunning comet
fun
latent moss
cunning comet
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/914508501697576990/1314542204722741248/ca...
listen bro
lifechanging#
latent moss
https://soundcloud.com/djretardmixx/become-blind-in-seven-seconds-dj-retard-mega...
i will
hazy flower
Maybe i can ask around in the guild im social in, they started doing alt runs this ssn
thick kelp
Anything higher u had to be in premium pugs
ask timmas for premium pugs
fossil thistle
Honestly I can see pigs not killing plexus
hazy flower
In proccs
thick kelp
Wait 2 weeks
hazy flower
Last season
thick kelp
or first round of dimensius nerfs
fossil thistle
Pugs*
hazy flower
1 thing that feels weird is
minor gust
Honestly I can see pigs not killing plexus
Yeahhhhh meee too for some reason
hazy flower
This is my 2nd tier not raiding
Every other tiers id just
Know everything
This time u come in clueless
Kinda stressed a bit ngl
tacit crystal
Yeahhhhh meee too for some reason
🐷
minor gust
Better knowledge up
tacit crystal
how the fuck are we gonna do araz
fossil thistle
Yeahhhhh meee too for some reason
My guilds fiest kill was at the last wall and we were all doing 3.8M+ iirc
I’ve done a heroic pug with 705+ people, a lot of them with a few M kills last season, and they struggle to do 3M dps lol
tacit crystal
with gio super team
silent saddle
what are you guys crafting Tuesday if you made a 2h wep the other week. Wrists?
Belt?
hazy flower
Nah im fine i did 7/8m last SSN with the guild im social in
And i found out they have a spot 30 mins before
tacit crystal
what are you guys crafting Tuesday if you made a 2h wep the other week. Wrists?
sim but prob wrists since belt is probably best forever
minor gust
how the fuck are we gonna do araz
Have faith they nerf it more
fossil thistle
what are you guys crafting Tuesday if you made a 2h wep the other week. Wrists?
Whatever sims best / lowest ilvl
tacit crystal
unless you have mythic weapon and can go double thread
tacit crystal
Have faith they nerf it more
fossil thistle
sim but prob wrists since belt is probably best forever
Belt replaced by 720 craft
swift crown
<@217744588775882753> can thou come na
no
tacit crystal
that boss is already not a boss
swift crown
progging Dimmy Doug dimmadome
cunning comet
that boss is already not a boss
can u play on eu
tacit crystal
i would love to watch prog of a deustche guild
tacit crystal
no chance
hazy flower
you can play with bitzentein
When are u gonna play with blitzentein
tacit crystal
hes washed
cunning comet
When are u gonna play with blitzentein
never... i'd be too nervous
hazy flower
cunning comet
he used to be a hots pro player you know
cunning comet
now you do.
hazy flower
Ill forget about it. On purpose.
cunning comet
who is moedk
hazy flower
Moe
cunning comet
moelijk
cunning comet
true
cunning comet
banned for no reason
tacit crystal
no se
hazy flower
cunning comet
hazy flower
latent moss
latent moss
tacit crystal
can we bring back #counting
cunning comet
1
minor gust
shadow ibex
teal fossil
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1179738834808881212/1204229772851417088...
what’s the context
vestal spade
Anyone know if there are any target dummies which aren't always 0% health? lol
tacit sandal
Buffs for arms when
stable fiber
has anyone tried colossus arms on dimensius
i have a hunch
seems like someone tried it and it confirms on hunch
not confirmed
arms no fun on dimensius
thought with the demolish change it would hit both melee mobs in p1, possibly with the large hitbox all 4 of them
for some strange reason i was able to spread rend to the far melee add
hasty pumice
Have faith they nerf it more
have faith in me
joining the ranks
lowkey why does this go hard
especially with the gnome walk
vestal spade
Hey guys, just ran my first key as Arms - It was a +10 Floodgate - is this damage breakdown okay?
Anything stick out as being really wrong?
compact rover
how is slayer arms AOE compared to thane fury?
viral locust
how is slayer arms AOE compared to thane fury?
on what target count?
viral locust
Hey guys, just ran my first key as Arms - It was a +10 Floodgate - is this damag...
seems about right % wise, maybe deepwound/rend could be a few % higher but its a low key so stuff probably died fast I bet
maybe demo a little higher too
compact rover
on what target count?
anywhere from 2-30
2-whatever the largest pull is this season
granite coral
13 resil done
last one was a 13 HoA, buddy had 14 resil so we yolo'd it
despite having 0 deaths, perfect route, and no extra count we killed it with 20 sec left
FUCK HOA
grim haven
hi
late wadi
can you guys please tell me what am I doing wrong in M+ I don't really get the class, I kinda cracked raiding Arms but not M+
thick hamlet
i'm trying to figure out why fury supposedly outdamages arms on loom'ithar despite the damage amp during execute
is it because arms' dps before the damage amp is that much lower or?
sudden wagon
hi probably stupid question but im sooo brand new to arms anyone know what this WA pop up is it only stays for like a second so i cant ever check my buffs
teal fossil
Rampage available
nova marsh
hi probably stupid question but im sooo brand new to arms anyone know what this ...
Irrc it's for Overpower resets
From tactican
Also it's not a WA it's part of the base UI
lethal acorn
Resi 13s before September with solo Colossus Arms!
I play with Skullsplitter but I make up for it with double passive trinkets
shadow ibex
gotta get an idol
lethal acorn
gotta get an idol
If I get a idol then I'll do the soa over sks like crit does
I love seeing those bleeds on the meters though
minor gust
If I get a idol then I'll do the soa over sks like crit does
You don't swap to SOA for any gain you swap to SOA because you hate sks
lethal acorn
You don't swap to SOA for any gain you swap to SOA because you hate sks
I don't hate sks, I hate on-use trinkets
minor gust
SOA is a downgrade over sks
lethal acorn
Sks is the lesser of two evils
minor gust
Then keep using SKS an on use trinket does not change anything
lethal acorn
balmy kindle
My main problem with sks is i have no more spare hotkeys
Cursed idol necessitate a separate key for thunderous roar doesn't help
glacial rapids
My main problem with sks is i have no more spare hotkeys<:deadge:900279927138578...
How are you out of hotkeys? Arms warrior has been the least hotkey demanding spec I've played.
Are you using shift+key? Cntrl+key?
balmy kindle
Are you using shift+key? Cntrl+key?
Ah I use control keys but sparingly and only for mobility skills
I don't have octopus hands so I tend to only use keys i can reach reasonably too
balmy kindle
I have a basic logictech one that has 2 side buttons
But its used for dstance and slam
void bay
idk how u can play without one...I use most of the buttons on it and like a lot of used with shift or ctrl to give 3 abilities per button
balmy kindle
Side buttons are huge for qol ngl
void bay
Less stress on hands too in mythic+ with all the bullshit going on...can keep left hand on wasd most of the time
fingers I mean
rather than reaching
green fern
Sooooo when the fuck are we gonna do the same damage as frost dk
minor gust
when you get good?
green fern
when you get good?
So never?
minor gust
im sorry for your loss
void bay
you can do frost dk damage right now, just roll one
green fern
I said we so ur loss too
latent moss
why are boomies top dmg in 17s
minor gust
blame PI
green fern
Facts
minor gust
latent moss
i thought boomie was unplayable
minor gust
thats how they get ya
balmy kindle
Idk FDKs kinda be quite ass in my 13s 14s , boss damage so low it's funny
Probably just bad usage of BoS or CDs but still
sour forge
I’m starting to see less riders
balmy kindle
^^ they told me DB is better for the usual keys
sour forge
Db seems to have better st?
balmy kindle
It's lower I think but you do get faster cool downs
dry dagger
pretty sure rider has some 4p bug going on
plush jacinth
anyone know of some HoF raiders that would be willing to help me improve my arms and fury play? been playing for awhile and just want to find places where i need to be better
slow saddle
Idk FDKs kinda be quite ass in my 13s 14s <:keks:936231610850897992>, boss damag...
ye 100%, ive had mostly bad fdks. but once in a while u hit a good one, then ST also pops
100% uptime
is step one 😄
plush jacinth
im usually at around there
ionic reef
arms feels like it does more damage in m+ than fury
balmy kindle
Obviously it's padding with cleave and demolish
wooden lava
FDK is filled with fotm rerollers
half of them dont even know how to line up CDs
if any one with a half brain plays it, it's easy 10m+ overall in keys
balmy kindle
Don't matter, they just wanna get in keys
vapid goblet
a 690 dk with dog strinkets did 8m in a +10 flood while most at 705 do like 7.5
kek
balmy kindle
If anyone calls them out > report to CS for harassment
vapid goblet
frost dk is lirly braindead to play as well
balmy kindle
There's some naunce in lining up your CDs and waiting instead of just throwing them when it's up (both udk and FDk)
quaint otter
quaint otter
There's some naunce in lining up your CDs and waiting instead of just throwing t...
After rework it plays by itself
Literally ret with blue light
hazy flower
There's some naunce in lining up your CDs and waiting instead of just throwing t...
U quite literally do that on fdk though
U send pillar on cd so u dont have to hold your breath
No nuance
void bay
There's some naunce in lining up your CDs and waiting instead of just throwing t...
Im trying one just to see and:
- pool enough runes
- pool enough runic power
- pop breath + pillar
- <RANDOM SHIT ON YOU!> RUN OUT!
its fun outside of that shit gimmick cd
slow saddle
random shit on u
ignore mechanic with AMZ
also just dont send it when random cd is inc 😄
void bay
It's on a mythic plus pack of 10+mobs,i already hate that cancer shit. Just let me dps
outer holly
FDK is filled with fotm rerollers
Nah, most people are just bad at the game
balmy kindle
After rework it plays by itself
I am pretty sure people still do breath without pooling RP though , or hitting frost strike
balmy kindle
lol I didn't know mb
thick kelp
fdk is legit melee boomkin
you got 2 aoe spenders and 2 st spenders
and then you cd on cd
balmy kindle
Damn means it's just hit buttons
thick kelp
yeah
balmy kindle
So how do peeps underperform
balmy kindle
Yeah I mean u just alternate oblit and frost strike
thick kelp
I was gapping a 709 fury warrior on my 670 fdk in a hoa +10
thick kelp
Yeah I mean u just alternate oblit and frost strike <:keks:936231610850897992>
yeah in st and in aoe you frostscythe and glacial advance
you dont need dnd anymore
balmy kindle
Yeah I know on the dnd as well that's why I always complain how streamlined it is
thick kelp
erw is like a 15s cd
you just send that shit on cd
pillar 45s send on cd
and everything lines up for 1.5min breath
you do sick dmg every 45s as db
rider is for like aoe mongo dungeons but imo not that great
thick kelp
db is fun
just walk into pack press your mark oblit swifty macro and spam frostscythe and ga
erw when u run out of procs
balmy kindle
Crunchy scythe procs were pretty dank during s2
But damn if maintaining bos is not a thing anymore, must be a real 🐵 to do low dmg on fdk
hazy flower
rider is for like aoe mongo dungeons but imo not that great
Imo db not that great
Numbers wise
U gain lil of st lose lots of aoe
thick kelp
Imo db not that great
idk my baby keys at 10 werent enough to notice the aoe loss then
Packs die in like 30-40
thick kelp
to defeat your enemy you must know your enemy
balmy kindle
^^
hasty pumice
True wisdom
astral yarrow
no defeating fdk tho
thick kelp
yeah
astral yarrow
pushing key to 10 on first time fdk alt and then logging warrior doing way less with more effort was an experience on the first day of patch
hasty pumice
Pmuch every other melee needs more effort TBF
onyx rapids
Guys,
when fighting boss during M+, there is a time when I lack rage, so lacking that i have no rage for slam. I have a feeling its not normal. Wonder if you guys have the same issue
astral yarrow
You never press slam if it makes it so you cant press mortal strike
onyx rapids
but if all my fillers are on cooldown, dont i press slam?
quaint otter
balmy kindle
but if all my fillers are on cooldown, dont i press slam?
You can push slam but only to get op (tactician proc)
onyx rapids
You can push slam but only to get op (tactician proc)
so you press slam for overpower procs, amd when overpower does proc you continue with your main skills, i get that
but despite all that do you ever encounter a situation where you run out of rage?
hasty pumice
Mostly if you went into the fight with 0 rage or died into BR
balmy kindle
I assume you are talking about Colo m+ yeah. For that we do have issues with rage but it's not really bad
hasty pumice
Just make sure you don't enter a boss fight with almost no rage
So don't spam execute on the last mob of a pack
If you started with 100+ rage, you will likely never run out
balmy kindle
Skyfury and the rage gain on bleed node helps alot too
hasty pumice
Also if you struggle with rage, time your Demolish in a way that you don't sit on your auto attack timer during the entire cast bar
Plus you might run out of melee range when you don't need to, which is also a huge rage loss
Every auto is ~20 rage
onyx rapids
I assume you are talking about Colo m+ yeah. For that we do have issues with rag...
oh sorry i forgot to mention colossus arms
hasty pumice
oh sorry i forgot to mention colossus arms
Execute as a filler is also quite a trap imo
Deals slightly more than slam but still less than Op/MS and costs 40 rage if you have it
onyx rapids
Plus you might run out of melee range when you don't need to, which is also a hu...
thanks for the insight
i never though about autoattacks
hasty pumice
Should only use it if you have plenty rage to fall back on or ravager is out
onyx rapids
Also
Does anyone expect a buff to arms this week?
Ithink arms is good in M+ but since buffs are based on raid maybe....
balmy kindle
Unlikely buffs
thick kelp
no
balmy kindle
Not shit enough