Idk probably
#arms
fossil thistle
iron robin
candid pecan
just thunderblast and then thunderblast again 3 times in a row
oh demo shout
thunderblast some more 
vapid goblet
prot war is arguably the easiest tank to play
fossil thistle
At a base level I agree
fossil thistle
One of three specs has to be good, I’ve noticed when arms and fury are mid, prot is cranking
candid pecan
fossil thistle
Bigger faster stronger smarter <:Protection:592472003248783361>
vapid goblet
even if arms is mid
prot nerfed? might aswell make that nerf count for arms as well
cba coding
fossil thistle
Yea
Hotfixes be like
“Protection : Shied slam damaged reduced by 3%
Arms : all damage reduced by 10%”
balmy kindle
Jeez I can actually see this being reality
fossil thistle
Right 
latent moss
Hotfixes be like
“Protection : Shied slam damaged reduced by 3%
Arms : all dama...
colossus practiced strikes nerfed by 5%
(arms stray)
reason: revenge hitting too hard
xdd
fossil thistle
We’ve identified an issue with thunder blast proccing too much, so to fix this issue, we’ve removed mortal strike from colossus and you can no longer use demolish.
fossil thistle
smashed a 99 on fract heroic!
https://tenor.com/view/klaus-american-dad-american-dad-stan-stan-stan-smith-gif-15718129321592310172
Only a 99? Don’t come back until it’s 100
grave mulch
😭 sorry dad
fossil thistle
😂
grave mulch
I was top if that means anything!!!! Put the meta specs to sleep
shadow ibex
Kill jug
slow saddle
Kill jugg
dusty summit
I agree
fossil thistle
Remove all abilites except execute and juggernaut
Plus let juggernaut stack to 99
Arms 2 set bonus : allows execute to be used at any health percentage
Arms 4 set bonus : juggernaut now stacks to 99.
olive nest
twin hazel
any Delve trinkets worthwhile?
spiral coral
I was top if that means anything!!!! Put the meta specs to sleep
we’re the secret meta spec 🤫
halcyon valve
Arms 2 set bonus : allows execute to be used at any health percentage
Arms 4 se...
(Monkey paw curls)
Juggernaut stacks to 99 in theory but every boss will have forced downtime causing you to lose all stacks
lofty pulsar
I’m garbage but most I’ve seen from myself is 20. Maybe I crafted the wrong 2h or something
vale gorge
prot war is arguably the easiest tank to play
Droodtank please
shadow ibex
If demolish was raid spec
There would be world peace
Because everyone would be playing the arms spec in the video game world of warcraft
lofty pulsar
Why does arch recommend the shockwave slow instead of the knockup in the talent/hero tree
minor gust
Prob because it doesn't matter and he just picked one.
warped solstice
looks like they all suck
It only has a subset each week. Ethereal Essence Gorger is actually pretty competitive at around the 704 iLvl mark. It doesn't scale great above that though.
slow saddle
For real though condemn + 5 stack juggernaut id cry with happyness for raid
pallid crow
Hi, just 1 thing following the wowhead rotation as arms for mm+ why Thunderous Roar is before Avatar ? its better to do avatar then thunderous or i miss something ?
fossil thistle
Maximize cleave benefit from avatar
Initial hit of Dragons roar is meh
fossil thistle
Blade masters torment and spamming cleave is where it’s at
slow saddle
Ngl man
fossil thistle
I’m garbage but most I’ve seen from myself is 20. Maybe I crafted the wrong 2h o...
Fiest pull in ara Kara
fossil thistle
Says who
fossil thistle
Well that’s an iss-you not with arms
spiral coral
But in raid its just bad
????
fossil thistle
I’m lost at your argument then
spiral coral
But it feels pretty bad to play
Oh ok. Vibes check thing
fossil thistle
You want to play arms. But say it’s clunky and feels bad to play.
So you don’t want to play arms
slow saddle
I do, ive played arms for almost every tier
fossil thistle
slow saddle
But it feels so hamstrung stm
fossil thistle
It literally feels the same as it has
slow saddle
When i get more crit imma be 100% col in m+
slow saddle
It literally feels the same as it has
Nah
fossil thistle
Tbh it feels better then before
slow saddle
Kek, ill tell blizzard to give me more procs at correct times
fossil thistle
That’s the spirit
slow saddle
Dimensious hc so far also feels pretty fury esque
fossil thistle
Naaahhh
spiral coral
please don’t make go drop a ring away from boss plssss
fossil thistle
Shits bussin as arms
It feels so good as arms on dimensius.
I even do orbs during P1 and it feels good
vagrant aspen
Arms owns
fossil thistle
I’m by no means perfect but did 4.5m with a 94% parse
thick kelp
fossil thistle
If I dont do orbs during P1 I could probably push that a lil bit higher
dawn lynx
Arms feels like those 80s movies where it was onomatopoeias in place of actual hitting noises
yeah I said that and good morning
vagrant aspen
Colo on Araz feels good
spiral coral
Other than being melee and it being uncomfortable to stand anywhere
Yeah Araz feels insane
slow saddle
U would love playing colo in raid
fossil thistle
I’m pretty average arms, I’d like to say slightly above the norm but I know I make mistakes often lol.
Ignore salad bar.
slow saddle
If only it was tuned at same st as jug
spiral coral
When the wa sd proc dings do I follow normal prio until the time about out then hit execute or do I just send execute
shadow ibex
I’m pretty average arms, I’d like to say slightly above the norm but I know I ma...
You could say its cuz no one plays it cuz it feels like ass
I say this as someone who played it week 1 pre 8% tho 
fossil thistle
You could say its cuz no one plays it cuz it feels like ass
Most tiers I’m around 92-59% avg, it’s been consistent
Same. I hate fury
shadow ibex
Yea just pointing out historically one of lowest number of parse specs. Best players play best stuff etc etc
lofty pulsar
So like is skull splitter 1 bloodborne even a dps gain over 2 bloodborne or is it bait
loud wadi
So like is skull splitter 1 bloodborne even a dps gain over 2 bloodborne or is i...
My opinion is that you keep the 2 points in BB and skullplitter, drop the point from Str of Arms/Dreadnaught
This simm better on my char (710 ilvl) - AoE (8 targets) and in ST
But if you don't want to play with SKS, simply drop it, the loss of dps is not relevant to the point of making you weaker
latent moss
When the wa sd proc dings do I follow normal prio until the time about out then...
check new version 
surely final version
ah
arms chat
unlucky
dont read what i wrote i thought this was fury
just send when it dings
real birch
Would you always pick what the sims say? I have arcano and endboss trinket on 610 to pair with the antenna (normal) And the arcano does sim better despite the guide saying that the endboss trinket "should" be better.
void bay
just send when it dings
slender raptor
yo yo, how is arms doing in +12 keys and beyond? is it worth speccing from fury to arms with the right gear?
minor gust
Is it worth? Brother just open your talents and swap to arms if you wanna play arms. Arms is big AOE if you want that play it
fossil thistle
Would you always pick what the sims say? I have arcano and endboss trinket on 61...
I wouldn’t equip a 610 trinket in S3
Trinkets can change based off your gear.
My sim didn’t want me to upgrade antenna because I had so much crit already
silent saddle
so I never knew you could just leap out of the suck on last boss ara'kara. Anything I need to know about the timing? just wait until <1s or something?
slow saddle
Dno man
I keep gettin suckednin sev times sometimes
I gave up
I leap into a puddle at like 1.2sdc left
craggy oriole
yo yo, how is arms doing in +12 keys and beyond? is it worth speccing from fury ...
it's pretty fun honestly
i've done both fury and arms keys and both are enjoyable, just play what you wanna play
also don't stress too much about gear, you can play arms just fine with "fury" gear it's not the end of the world
silent saddle
I leap into a puddle at like 1.2sdc left
apparently at 1s she does a little mini suck, you'll see your character jump into the air a little, then you can leap
unkempt wren
Always felt like arms does better in fury gear than vice versa
silent saddle
but I'm being told if you just leap out at 0.9s you're fine
dim basalt
Always felt like arms does better in fury gear than vice versa
Because thats the case
unkempt wren
Good to knows it's true vs personal feelys xD
slow saddle
Because thats the case
Not col
dim basalt
Just play Slayer in M+ 
slow saddle
Low crit col = tier uptime
minor gust
Low crit col = tier uptime
Still fine to play with lower Crit. Don't overvalue secondaries. With like 15% Crit from fury gear your doing at most 3-4% less dmg which is nothing
craggy oriole
yeah it's not that big of a deal usually
besides after a while you'll probably come across a crit ring from m+ and u can use that
minor gust
Streets neck and dawn bringer ring and your good
slow saddle
Still fine to play with lower Crit. Don't overvalue secondaries. With like 15% C...
I had 10% 4p uptime bout 50%
Id say thats pretty rough
minor gust
Your feely craft is nice but doesn't really matter
slow saddle
Was data from keys
So at best its bad data
Playing slayer in fury gear though felt fine
minor gust
Obviously col is gonna feel better with more Crit but number wise you're gonna be doing 3-4% less than someone who has the crit
What your losing from not having the Crit your gaining from having the increased mastery/vers.
heavy patio
Slayer in m+ fury gear feels very smooth
fossil thistle
Arms 2 set - 12.0 : whenever you cast mortal strike, silences all the casters in your raid and forces power infusion to be cast on you.
heavy patio
Wed have a like... 1.8 second CD on mortal strike then xD
fossil thistle
That’s fine, all the mages warlocks n shit will be perma silenced
heavy patio
And isn lowest gcd can even be is .75 seconds which would cause this weird .3 second window where you can't do shit except slam
I hope next expansion they just delete slam.
halcyon valve
Arms 2 set - 12.0 : whenever you cast mortal strike, silences all the casters in...
„Mortal strike finally is mortal now and has a 10% chance of instantly killing the target“
minor gust
Slayer in m+ fury gear feels very smooth
Because Slayer doesn't need Crit and mostly loves haste and mastery
Mostly haste
unkempt wren
I hope next expansion they just delete slam.
Slam is going to be the primary dmg skill in 12.0. Wait for it
heavy patio
Slam is going to be the primary dmg skill in 12.0. Wait for it
How dare you utter such heresy. Begone.
unkempt wren
How dare you utter such heresy. Begone.
It hurt to even type lol
unkempt wren
heavy patio
Idk what I hate more though slam or skull splitter
sharp tendon
Skull splitter was fun before the nerf
river ridge
Idk what I hate more though slam or skull splitter
sharp tendon
Slam is shit remove right away hate to press it
shadow ibex
At least slam spends rage
slow saddle
Rework* not nerf
Its just blizzard csnt tune warrior
Keep in mind for sks to be relevant we needed a tier to buff bleeds (100) until prot nerf
Now 80% classic arms strafe
spiral coral
I’d like sks more if my ass would remember to press it more
misty bridge
just remember it 
slow saddle
Move it to 1
vast helm
Skull splitter was fun before the nerf
true.
slow saddle
true.
Tbh i didnt mind the janky part of it
Imagine col with 4p and old sks
Legit Brrrrr
spice stag
Idk what I hate more though slam or skull splitter
sks is ass
rare kite
Idk what I hate more though slam or skull splitter
slam. sks is just a whatever button, slam feels bad because there's no payoff. you're just hoping for a tactician porc and even when you get one you're not satisfied, just relieved you don't have to press slam again
heavy patio
would be nice if slam atleast had a nicer animation and sound
spice stag
im twirling here
shadow ibex
I'll never forget to press slam
Ask me how many times I forget to use sks
I dont remember 
olive nest
Hate that button ngl
I liked it a lot when it snapped health bar
Now it’s just meh boring
granite coral
Just make sks bound to a microphone that triggers whenever you scream
That’d be tight for battle shout actually
shadow ibex
Another button to add to the opener that feels meh
Sks and tr gots to go
Atp ill take tr being instant hit no more dots bleeds please 
heavy patio
Imagine if thunderous roar casted a tclap on each target effected. So much boom
sturdy hearth
SKS out of gcd would be hella cool
outer forge
sks would be cooler if it just triggered one big hit for a portion of all the bleeds you have rolling
spring rune
candid pecan
something as simple making SKS a passive and tying it to CS/Warbreaker:
- Colossus smash x% faster bleeds for 10 seconds on main target (or 2 target if sweep)
- Warbreaker x% faster bleeds for 10 seconds on all targets
x% cause 150% on ST and 100% on AOE might be too much so can easily adjust
spiral coral
That seems op as fuck
sturdy hearth
we deserve it
wooden tide
does anyone have a WA that tracks trinket cd
i use luxthos but it doesnt track trinkets
rapid bronze
just search trinkets on wago there are several updated for s3
steep osprey
is arms meta now
candid pecan
no
halcyon valve
Fuck it ill say yes
candid pecan
compared to last 2 seasons
it CRANKS dmg now
keeps up with the meta dps
which is nice
pearl wind
link?
halcyon valve
pearl wind
need to rub some faces
olive nest
Thanks @daring heron you’re awesome!!
olive nest
we simply win
^
halcyon valve
close down the arms channel to get another buff
pearl wind
shadow ibex
teal fossil
logon
shadow ibex
pearl wind
halcyon valve
pearl wind
arms is lower for streets, which makes sense, lot of forced downtime making you lose stacks i guess
despite RP skips
minor gust
we simply win
Carried by Farover
outer forge
streets is horrendous, I still need the neck from there
pearl wind
seeing arms rising like that makes me want to push for 3200 now
minor gust
A lot of ppl just pushing with phys comp
While ppl figure out what's good
After all tuning is mostly done
outer forge
i need to force the homies to make a physical comp. right now we run bdk, mage, r sham, and 2 warriors 😄
steep osprey
Is mastery good for arms
outer forge
less so than haste and crit
minor gust
Yes
halcyon valve
bleed build destroys holy
outer forge
is AB the most popular pick in higher keys?
minor gust
My worst nightmare skewed stats
shadow ibex
1v5 was best for 2 seasons and for good reason
cleave hits rlly hard
good to have variety now anyway
minor gust
I'ma try and get 3300 this weekend chillin at 3220 right now
Slow process when the boys ain't on cuz the NA pug scene is dead
pearl wind
i just got 3k tuesday and took a break not sure if im gonna try to push
seeing arms on top makin me want to tho
minor gust
Barely ever any 15s let alone 16s in que
minor gust
seeing arms on top makin me want to tho
Just ppl chillin and playing the game
Most ppl aren't pushing right now
outer forge
maybe waiting for turbo boost?
minor gust
M+ is all about end of season no the start for ppl pushing for title
pearl wind
nah i like to blast early and get a high rating before anyone else can touch it
especially as the perceived underdog spec
minor gust
Everyone just chillin till turbo boost and .5 patch
pearl wind
cowards!
minor gust
By then ppl will know what's good and any potential changes would have been made
And big boost of ilvl
spiral coral
Everyone just chillin till turbo boost and .5 patch
Wait is that going to be a thing again lol
Cause I’ll just not touch my alts if so
minor gust
Yes already confirmed
shadow ibex
no s4 but yea turbo is returning
analog laurel
Was Arms fun in legion?
analog laurel
Ope 
shadow ibex
im not a fan of remix or s4 but i think expac will be out by like febuary tho
fading sage
Arms M+ is essentially the same as S3 in terms of rotation and priorities, right?
steep osprey
im not a fan of remix or s4 but i think expac will be out by like febuary tho
Before July
steep osprey
Arms M+ is essentially the same as S3 in terms of rotation and priorities, right...
Yeah
fading sage
❤️
minor gust
you just triggered their trauma
I'm triggered
minor gust
Was Arms fun in legion?
If only legion remix had legion talents and artifact weapons and not TWW talents
shadow ibex
no
zenith warren
only see load log, am I stupid? xd
heavy patio
possibly
untold trench
Lorrgs just seems broken, overall. So prob something they fixing
nova marsh
Guys are we all addicted to wow
dire hinge
not me i've been touching grass all month 
dire hinge
wait, lorrgs.io is behind paywall now?
seems to work on my end 🤔
Does it work if you visit this URL directly?
https://lorrgs.io/spec_ranking/warrior-arms/soulbinder-naazindhri?difficulty=heroic
sacred zodiac
seems to work on my end 🤔
Does it work if you visit this URL directly?
<https:...
it was broken earlier it is fine now
can you comment on your shape, are you still spherical
minor gust
Guys are we all addicted to wow
We talk in a discord for a class in a video game. We are addicted
nova marsh
It's jover
nova marsh
not me i've been touching grass all month <:peepoHappyFisher:838631904936591401>
Hroth how can you touch grass with new season
dire hinge
Hroth how can you touch grass with new season
still in the process of moving to a new city, the fomo is real, but i've got paperwork to do 
dire hinge
can you comment on your shape, are you still spherical
I'm trying to spheremax but my gf keeps taking me to the gym and undoing all of my burger progress
minor gust
still in the process of moving to a new city, the fomo is real, but i've got pap...
Big city or small city
dire hinge
beeeeeg city
nova marsh
still in the process of moving to a new city, the fomo is real, but i've got pap...
Ohhhhhh
minor gust
beeeeeg city
F good luck out there and be safe
dire hinge
we big chillin, went from one big city to another.
Saw a man last night literally take his shoes off to give to an unhoused guy. The world has a lot of good in it if you look for it
spiral coral
what are people running if they don't take sks
minor gust
SOA
zenith warren
seems to work on my end 🤔
Does it work if you visit this URL directly?
<https:...
that works
spiral coral
we big chillin, went from one big city to another.
Saw a man last night literal...
that's amazing. wish there was more places that gave out shoes for free
void bay
I'm trying to spheremax but my gf keeps taking me to the gym and undoing all of ...
All Arms warriors have to keep those arms buff
minor gust
shows you how much people like that button
spiral coral
at this point im committed to finding at least one in the top 40 using it
nope
not a single one thats wild
teal fossil
whatever you want
outer forge
what if im bad at both?
minor gust
Most ppl are picking SOA becuase colossus already fucks in aoe and your dropping SKS which is primarily ST so SOA is trying to make up for it
outer forge
that's fair
minor gust
if you got like 40% crit its not that bad keeping them sync in ST but there will still be some desync. Aoe tho never been an issue keeping Demo and WB aligned
smoky kayak
Most ppl are picking SOA becuase colossus already fucks in aoe and your dropping...
also because Colossus prios Cleave/MS in multitarget, which doesn't leave as many GCDs for Overpower, whereas Cleave doesn't get used in ST
minor gust
also because Colossus prios Cleave/MS in multitarget, which doesn't leave as man...
yee I prio TC a bit more too for rend on big pulls
I dont see DN being that good at all right now
with how col plays
smoky kayak
yup
silent sun
arms or fury for raid?
shadow ibex
which 1 u better at
stable fiber
arms or fury for raid?
^ fury tends to be better at ST and Spread AoE fights or fights with mostly ST
1 - Fury
2 - Fury/Arms (both good on loom)
3 - Arms good on soulbinder, fury not bad but worse than arms imo
4 - Fury is generally better, but Arms has very good potential on this fight imo
5 - Arms
6 - Fury
7 - Fury
8 - Fury
atleast thats from my pov in the raid
colossus arms very good at sniping shitter adds and 3 target cleave
you can play whatever you are better at though and it shouldnt really have a massive negative effect, ifs it heroic you can play either
silent sun
ty
zenith warren
you guys think we can catch a buff this season still?
regal wharf
void bay
you guys think we can catch a buff this season still?
be the buff you want to be
ripe grotto
Managed to get stone idol and arms has been even more fun (+12 priory)
balmy kindle
Ask crit to threaten blizz and closedown the disc if demands are not met
It worked for rets after all
balmy kindle
Rets be absolutely cranking in m+ though 
spiral coral
Wouldn’t know
They aren’t allowed in my keys
It’s just a level of petty that makes me happy
balmy kindle
Wow that's next level pettiness
spiral coral
DH/Monk/Druid/Hunter/dk/rogue plenty to take into phys comps
smoky kayak
^ fury tends to be better at ST and Spread AoE fights or fights with mostly ST
1...
gonna point out that Arms is only better on Soulbinder in the context of Colossus padding adds, Fury is much more condusive to killing the fight (while also doing a respectable amount of add dam)
smoky kayak
but for ranking purposes, yeah - Colossus has a higher top end due to how fast Demo snipes adds
I also dunno which boss you're calling #5 but both Fractillus and Soul Hunters seem to favor Fury on M; I think some of that is just low-parse bias though, so I wouldn't argue with calling them pretty even atm
balmy kindle
DH/Monk/Druid/Hunter/dk/rogue plenty to take into phys comps
DH looking insanely strong in my runs, nutty funnel damage
smoky kayak
peak what, exactly?
rare kite
peak channeling gameplay. add stone idol that way you can channel right before as well
lethal acorn
PvE bladestorm
rare kite
idk, i don't think anything with arms bladestorm can be peak. that shit lasts for milennia
outer holly
Bladestorm into demolish does sound like the coolest possible finishing move possible
lime ruin
I've always loved Bladestorm, I think Ravager is lame af
Weak ass limp dick weapon spinning around for 1.2 mil or smthjn
yawwwn
lethal acorn
Bladestorm is lame af outside of pvp, I don't even like Slarms but reap the storm is a better pve bladestorm than bladestorm
lime ruin
This man just can't comprehend peak
spiral coral
Has the discord figured out that bladestorm with colossus is peak yet
I want the edibles you’re taking
lime ruin
It's okay you'll all be enlightened eventually
lethal acorn
pve bladestorm is peak melatonin
rare kite
i will say it. arms in shadowlands>arms in tww
balmy kindle
You like fairy warrior?
rancid solstice
manic pasture
What hero talents is arms taking for M+ this season
void bay
What hero talents is arms taking for M+ this season
noone knows, especially not wowhead, icy veins, a.n. other site that has talents
shadow ibex
i will say it. arms in shadowlands>arms in tww
in raid maybe in m+ nah
rocky wasp
Does Mortal Strike do anything against Nexus King?
Like when he eats the dragon for hp
cunning pond
how is screams in m+
stoic epoch
Maybe playing with a brew would help there 
celest forge
We only have one brewmaster in our guild and he's offline sadge
stoic epoch
Idk but isn't bdk pretty bad ? In terms of pulling big etc
celest forge
No actually this guy did a great job
tight heart
how arms after buff?
heavy patio
also 'thats mythic though' which barely has any data still
still will be lots of logs with people dead since first kills
balmy kindle
how arms after buff?
Competitive in m+, still very mid in raid
slow saddle
You like fairy warrior? <:keks:936231610850897992>
Yes
Big beam was awesome
Instead of roar and spear
balmy kindle
I liked It for m+ but man the raid performance
slow saddle
And the fairy zone had some funny meme side quests
balmy kindle
I only played S1
balmy kindle
I still have shit memories of burrs doing like 5% dmg
slow saddle
S1 i did 4 first mythic. Got depressed reprogged as dk up untiø council
But apart from s1, we were cookin
balmy kindle
No love lost I guess, castle nanthria was the best part of SL
open bridge
Hi, get a hard time beating someone in DPS overrall in 14s any advice? i have 97-98 parses or is just Arms not that good to compete? makes me wanna quit him i know it doesnt matter be top 1 but I feel bad dps if not toping
bleak fog
Found it..
thick kelp
Hi, get a hard time beating someone in DPS overrall in 14s any advice? i have 97...
yeah u should quit warrior
stable fiber
something looks wrong
when you see it you see it
also FbV is a insane talent when you have a healer that doesnt heal you
lmao
bleak fog
Black Ox more value then you, how does that feel? 😄
stable fiber
it felt great
i still lived forever too
i had like 1.2m hps because of FbV and leech
only died because of melees
bleak fog
You might master the "don't stand in shit talent" 🙂
stable fiber
halcyon valve
Fueled by violence, our lord and saviour
hasty pumice
yeah u should quit warrior
wooden lava
if you use pre-pull SS, does it persist?
or does it get reset?
on raid boss
I'm considering running colossus on Soul Hunters prog
so I'm curious if I pre-pull SS
collateral damage will be up by the time I send demolish
thick kelp
it resets since last patch
wooden lava
fuck
I'm tryna work some colossus magic on soul hunters
i didn't expect our secondary hero talents to get so much play on these bosses
stable fiber
if you use pre-pull SS, does it persist?
i feel like this is a oversight by blizzard too which is the worst part
thick kelp
they changed it on purpose
stable fiber
they changed it for a lot of specs
but then reverted a majority of them too
because it was cringe
sweep is like the only one that gets removed on pull now
stable fiber
you dont see evocation getting removed on prepull
ig thats a major cd but
yk
stormkeeper doesnt get removed prepull
just weird
pearl wind
resil 13 and 3050 io think im stalling out lol
between tuesday and today i only got 50 io
the zerg is gonna catch up
stable fiber
they changed it on purpose
i found the actual patch notes, it doesnt even list sweep as being affected but it still got changed
then wasnt reverted
astral yarrow
suspect the exploit oneshot guy on yt is the reason Sweep is removed on boss pull
he had a video of some shenanigans
astral yarrow
i dont follow i think
stable fiber
it was also removed like 6 months prior to that video
astral yarrow
Pretty sure that wasnt the timeline
astral yarrow
As far as i remember, the video came out a short while after they killed OAB pre sweep
stable fiber
3 months
video 1 month ago, patch ntoes 4 months ago
also they fixed the bug anyways because they made SS reset when entering proving grounds
so the bug isnt even possible anymore
(hasnt been since the video was posted)
floral ledge
for all of my arms's bro i did it for u
lapis crystal
for all of my arms's bro i did it for u
ty
zealous pivot
bretheren
i am doing something wrong
but idk what
i am doing like no damage i dont understand
weak rain
for all of my arms's bro i did it for u
Im sure that Colo is just the best choice for that fight on myth
viral locust
Should be two target cleave is better as they aren't always fully stacked, also as long as you're not needed to send CDs in the single target phase etc
A lot of this Gona be rng with the perfect triple stack too
viral locust
Probably want to make sure you got your best trinkets for 2/3t cleave too
Could maybe do like a 2 target boss with cleave add with high uptime and see what Sims better
weak rain
ye, my trinkets were not optimal for that fight plus bad kill timer(also died in the end)
viral locust
Something like this might be a good sim
Although you'll have a single target phase but surely your sending CDs when stacked etc so maybe this is closest option
spiral coral
i am doing like no damage i dont understand
Are you following prio? Are you lining up your CDs? Are you applying deep wounds and rend? Are you using sweeping strikes in aoe? Are you lining adds up in the cone of demo correctly? I’m assuming you’re talking about m+
warped ether
weak rain
Well they leaked again reworked uh dk tree, imagine if we won't get tree rework again xdddd
that would be legendary
zealous pivot
Are you following prio? Are you lining up your CDs? Are you applying deep wounds...
yeah like idk man i got 3670 last szn and avg 80 mythic. but like idk i feel like i forgot how to play lmfao
i need someone better than me to look at my logs or something
sharp tendon
i hope they also do something about smf since that is so a dead talent would be great if warrior can play arround it again if they wanted
weak rain
if they don't rework our trees from the ground(like in leaked uh dk pic)...
that would be hillarious
sharp tendon
yeh
olive nest
slow saddle
Plz dont
I imagine they can only make it worse
Unless they just let archie cook it
slow saddle
Happy me got a 98% parse on dimmy hc.
latent moss
Well they leaked again reworked uh dk tree, imagine if we won't get tree rework ...
another dk rework
cool
might wanna do something about warriors
slow saddle
Wdym
Warrior is "fine"
Tbh, just buff col st to match slayer
And ill be hapoie
latent moss
Warrior is "fine"
thats the issue
imo
we are permanently fine
tuning wise
never actually good
never bad
and they are good at making sure this is true
vital rune
Played my warrior last night in a key after going enhance this season. Just feels meh. Feel like it’s missing something to make it a little more exciting
latent moss
ye i mean design wise
vital rune
Maybe enhance just spoils you with all the constant visual stimulus
vital rune
Feel like they should have leaned into the whole “colossus” thing more. Make it so you get bigger or something as you get stacks
Demo could leave a little earthquake or something after you use it
latent moss
wouldn't make a difference when the spec has 0 identity
not a single cd is synced
demo and wb have the same base cd on a different cdr mechanic for some reason
so they never align on aoe and st
latent moss
the only time they align for me is on 2t
slow saddle
I love am. But
spiral coral
Feel like they should have leaned into the whole “colossus” thing more. Make it ...
Them big juicy cleaves mmmm
slow saddle
Removed frol dk
zinc relic
I honestly enjoy how arms plays atm think something is wrong with me
spiral coral
Nah it’s fun
slow saddle
Made spec better
latent moss
slayer cdr is particularly evil
thick kelp
6 gazilllion cleave hit
zinc relic
Our aoe burst just feels so satisfying right now as colo
latent moss
the main thing i dislike
about coko
colo
is the setup is so long
and cds dont align ever
thick kelp
longer than s1 uhdk opener
zinc relic
The set up makes it satisfying tor me but I do understand
zinc relic
That one is annoying
zinc relic
I just pretend I'm a frost dk and pretend I don't have a 6 hour set up to burst damage absolute denial
spiral coral
LOOOOOOL
slow saddle
longer than s1 uhdk opener
Facts
thick kelp
<@865605822638063647> coup is permanent right
idk
slow saddle
Col if
latent moss
rend surely gone
slow saddle
And sweep of gcd
latent moss
just add the damage to deep wounds
thick kelp
idk what coup is gng
latent moss
idk what coup is gng
coup de grace
spiral coral
Ima about to do a key as Col without sks
latent moss
stacks
spiral coral
See how this feels
outer forge
Ima about to do a key as Col without sks
feels so much better without sks
slow saddle
Sks needs major buff
latent moss
tbf if coup could fall off that would be giga funny
slow saddle
Ideally return to what it was
slow saddle
tbf if coup could fall off that would be giga funny
Fair isnwhat it would be
spiral coral
I mean the only thing that is making me drop is I can’t find other arms running it and I don’t like it so idk
latent moss
bro
thick kelp
doesnt even reset on raid boss pull i think
latent moss
I mean the only thing that is making me drop is I can’t find other arms running ...
ye they dont wanna bother i assume
outer forge
is there a visual somewhere that shows the approximate cone for demolish? Sometimes I feel like I'm missing stuff with it
latent moss
gotta aim it
vital rune
Does demo still works with SS? Or am I tripping?
outer forge
yeah, i know that. I just don't know how far out the cone goes, and at what degree
outer forge
probably just need to whack the aoe dummies to get a better idea
latent moss
ye
outer forge
still don't have 4p either... accidentally wasted a catalyst charge cause i had 2 of the same shoulders on me, but one was hero and one was myth
feelsbadman
gotta try to pug heroic see if i can get some tier gloves
spiral coral
already have 2k?
outer forge
yep
had 3 charges, accidentally wasted one, catalyzed shoulders and pants
just to get 2 piece
will have 4p on reset at the latest
but it still sucks
having to wait
spiral coral
I'm doing pvp for the first time for this tier set lmao
2p slayer fury is good @outer forge
outer forge
well, the other thing is i crafted bracers/belt since it came out about the same as doing a weapon. So i'm still sitting on just a hero weapon, hoping for vault. I'm a committed arms boi
slow saddle
No way
outer forge
none of it matters too much anyway, gonna push 3k and call it a season most likely
unkempt wren
Does demo still works with SS? Or am I tripping?
Strikes cleave, slam is just an aoe. Worked for me last night, but its as wonky as SS can be in general sometimes. Hit boxes are annoying
latent moss
Does demo still works with SS? Or am I tripping?
first 2 cleave last is aoe anyway
digital sky
Do you guys know why revvez and wowhead guide dont give the same bis list ?
olive nest
Revvez ruler of his own planet
teal fossil
because bis lists isnt real
i wonder what the sim diff between wowhead and revvez bis list is
minor gust
Prob .1%
minor gust
Do you guys know why revvez and wowhead guide dont give the same bis list ?
Bis lists are an outdated way to look at the game and only exist because the guide websites force the writers to put them in for the casual player base
latent moss
Do you guys know why revvez and wowhead guide dont give the same bis list ?
echo didnt update theirs iirc
also bis lists are outdated
shadow ibex
Nothing better than joining a guild and being told you gotta put your bis list on a website
Oh this is gonna go great
teal fossil
Nothing better than joining a guild and being told you gotta put your bis list o...
honestly the tech is
you just need to update it constantly
rig your sims
on first boss? ya this chest piece from first boss mythic is bis
until you go to 4th boss
then thats actually bis
you know what im saying
heady marlin
so did the buffs help us out or is fury still better
minor gust
If you have to ask then it doesn't matter enough play what you want to play
heady marlin
well i missed a whole patch, thats why im asking
viral locust
rig your sims
This guy clearly equipped all non mastery gear so jastors looked like a huge upgrade over other guildies
outer forge
so did the buffs help us out or is fury still better
arms pumps aoe, fury pumps st
heady marlin
arms pumps aoe, fury pumps st
ty
rare kite
in raid maybe in m+ nah
ye in raid
rancid robin
Hey, do anyone have a link or a video to have a tracker for our 4P (the bleed buff)
Can't find it on WA
latent moss
why would u track it
rancid robin
In case i have a lot of cleave proc, to send mortal strike to refresh it
Just to be sure to have 100% uptime
latent moss
u dont think about it
rancid robin
isn't it worth it to send mortal strike to proc it if ur in a big cleave session ?
rancid robin
y ik but still
though the minmax was worth
yy i hit some cleave at 30m+ its' juicy ^^
latent moss
no but also what are the chances
of sending cleave
enough times in a row with exhil
that ur 4p falls off
rancid robin
Yeah u right
latent moss
unless u got 0 crit and none of ur unhinged ms crit
rancid robin
Hm yep odds are close to 0 at this point
latent moss
also u are guaranteed a 4p proc in cds cause ur ms is guaranteed to crit ye
after demo
minor gust
cleave is all ur dmg
To be fair bleeds overall are more dmg than cleave but yeah. No need to think about the tier just press cleave then Ms and be a happy boy
latent moss
farovers 16 priory but he played oam instead of art
bro its wild
how overtuned cleave is
its 5t softcap
and it does so much damage
its wild
latent moss
idk i think art is just superior
minor gust
Still will always think art is better than OAM his bleeds would be almost double and his cleave dmg not much lower
latent moss
its only slightly weaker at medium count
but its much stronger on st and mass aoe
well
"much"
is an overstatement
tbf when we simmed art vs oam
it was with sks
cause sks is technically the best choice
latent moss
ye its the best choice but it does influence
art vs oam a lot
not al ot in aoe ye but on st for sure it does
u dont demo that quickly on st
u sit on 10 stacks a decent amount
balmy kindle
think art feels alot stronger with 4 pcs ?
deep wounds is always like 3rd or 4th most dmg
latent moss
ye but ure also just losing 25% on cleave
balmy kindle
its just "25%" though for a substantial dmg increase in ST, but i do feel my cleaves hit softer
minor gust
Worthwhile trade off always imo considering cleave is soft capped and Art gives you ST and AOE while OAM is just aoe
latent moss
25% more on collat can be huge
balmy kindle
yeah but realistically its only really fat on sweeping + avatar (with blademasters)
getting like 20-25 stacks
latent moss
Worthwhile trade off always imo considering cleave is soft capped and Art gives ...
ye i dont disagree im just saying we dont really know cause we cant sim it
collat i mean
fast wedge
just dusted off the war...when do i drop s2 4 piece? only when i have new tier or is it ok to drop for non-tier higher ilvl?
balmy kindle
easiest is to sim yourself, in my case S3 2pcs was a big ST gain on slayer and mild ST but big aoe gain on colo
fleet vortex
Hello. Can you someone please help me understand something?
Why I did only 3 MS during this bladestorm cast and why other player did 5
minor gust
ye i dont disagree im just saying we dont really know cause we cant sim it
Yee if only collateral line ups were most consistent besides the big one after avatar when running blademaster
But switching to art will def help out all the ppl who were agonizing over collateral min maxing last season
Even if it wasn't a big deal
latent moss
100%
wish we had exe damage bleed talent
would go hard
like assa
below 35% bleeds do more
granite coral
Or a bleed that ticks harder with every cast of exe
dreamy egret
latent moss
Or a bleed that ticks harder with every cast of exe
faster*
doesnt affect duration tho
i wonder if imgur has this
calm isle
Hey guys! I'm working on being better about simming. Is simming trinkets the same as any other piece of gear, or are some trinkets harder for the sim to measure?
My eradicating arcanocore is outsimming my stone idol, but im wondering how well the sim takes on use into it's values, and it's lineup with avatar etc
viral locust
APL would line up trinkets with CDS
depends if you simming aoe/st as stone idol is usually a nice AOE trinket often beat by ST focused trinkets like arcano etc.
calm isle
Yea i'm focusing ST right now, gonna do AOE next for my m++ set
viral locust
yea sounds correct then
calm isle
Awesome, thanks! Just trying to understand the system better. 🙂
viral locust
no understanding required, sim, equipt gear and ZUG ZUG
make sure to press buttons that light up
sacred zodiac
Hey guys! I'm working on being better about simming. Is simming trinkets the sam...
trinkets usually require you to interpret the results a bit more rigorously than usual
arcanocore is excellent in st cause of its charge refund and not very good in aoe despite it dealing more damage based on enemy count
swift crown
Hello. Can you someone please help me understand something?
Why I did only 3 MS...
Can you link the log? Presumably those aren't real Mortal Strikes, I suspect it's resets
this is what happened more than likely, Exhilirating Blows has the same icon as Mortal Strike but it's just a reset, the game just treats it as you casting a spell that resets Mortal Strike's cooldown right after Mortal Strike
calm isle
@sacred zodiac Yea! Thanks, sims land me on Aranocore/Sacbrood as best for my ST available.
sacred zodiac
ye idk seems like most ppl for m+ just equip some combo of pacemaker sacbrood idol
calm isle
Yea bout to sim around and figure out what for my AOE colossus stuff.
latent moss
idol pacemaker/sack
latent moss
i mean idol is locked in basically
slow saddle
Som amp phases might benefit more from idol
Than arcano
Dimensius flying downtime shouls give adv idol
Also u send into aoe paxk
slow saddle
Fucks
latent moss
eroka was perma dropping jugg cause of gravity
slow saddle
Yup
Tbh also importsnt factor hold bs to adds
So u staxk overwhelm
Or u might starve ifnu hard swap
calm isle
@latent moss Wait Idol should be locked in for ST too? Regardless of sims?
Or do you just mean for m+
latent moss
m+
slow saddle
idk arms seems cancer ngl on dimensius
Only hc but i did manage like 4.8m
Not horrible, facked up a bit
edgy atlas
eroka was perma dropping jugg cause of gravity
We actually have a fix in mind
fresh spire
edgy atlas
changed the order of the gravity so I always get the front/get down first
cause 95% of the times I dropped jugg I wouldn't have if I was in the front
thick kelp
Hooly
edgy atlas
Cause getting the back 2 I had to prestack 2x sudden death, cast one as I left the boss and it only just lined up as I got back down to extend
But virtually every time if I had been down first I would have had time to extend
See how it goes on Sunday anyway
slow saddle
I mean its arms
edgy atlas
It was cooked, and even doing all that you'd still just lose stacks to the time loss
slow saddle
We are the brains
slow saddle
Hear me out collosus was best spec in raid
We wouldda have a great raid
Like for real
Adds. Get demoed
Amp phase get demoed
St get demoed
It wouldda been fantastic
edgy atlas
I actually did a meme colossus pull tonight funny enough
latent moss
unfortunately its tuned like shit 👍
edgy atlas
terrible P1 but not bad P2
slow saddle
unfortunately its tuned like shit 👍
🥲
thick kelp
I actually did a meme colossus pull tonight funny enough
With horseshit talents 🥀
slow saddle
terrible P1 but not bad P2
P3 straight into amp?
thick kelp
don't @ me
mbg and fob but then you unbound WW
latent moss
mbg on dimensius chatting
slow saddle
Sks
edgy atlas
mbg and fob but then you unbound WW
that was actually cleave
had to change that shit mid pull
edgy atlas
P3 straight into amp?
It'd be alright there but slayer will crank P3 a lot more imo
slow saddle
Nah not the real demo spex
With juggernaut talented
🤣, if it was tuned where exe also gave demo stacks
slow saddle
It was only for 35%
Dmg was never made for entire phases
But for the rav - exe - exe -op - unhinged slap
In a demo windos
Couldda been glorious
edgy atlas
mbg and fob but then you unbound WW
Yeah fuck me those were some not good talents hey
I didn't even really look at what I had
I also had warbreaker and imp sweeping too which are dead talents on that
slow saddle
Imp sweep i take, on slayer🥲
thick kelp
I also had warbreaker and imp sweeping too which are dead talents on that
i highkey think your P1 looked like shit cuz of warbreaker
Thats like -7% st
edgy atlas
Honestly prob true, I'll give it another crack next raid with proper talents
see how it feels
slow saddle
Im guessin mythic dimmy?
edgy atlas
ye
thick kelp
Honestly prob true, I'll give it another crack next raid with proper talents
I dont know tho where to put the fatality talent point
like its
2/2 bb or long sweep for that pointer
edgy atlas
edgy atlas
Plz show us collosus greatness
bro you do not want to see that pull
slow saddle
It is a lot of work vs just being slayer fury🤣
edgy atlas
@thick kelp Think I'll try that setup
thick kelp
fairs but maybe sks > CT
slow saddle
100% u need toc run sks
edgy atlas
slow saddle
Or ep
slow saddle
First addset clap- ms - sks prsy for ms crit?🤣
Man nuclear launch code opener is rough on thane🤣🤣
I mean col
thick kelp
I was zero dps P1 and just ramped in P2
p1 irrelevant anw
slow saddle
U come flying in as well
slow saddle
Col is play then🤣
edgy atlas
I'll have a little play around next raid
slow saddle
Ofc for cds
I doubt ill ever try mythic dim tbh
Mby we will get to... hmm nexus king?
Of we get araz, next ones arent as rough once buff is maxxed🤣
grim haven
@boreal quartz hi
lapis nimbus
ok i need some help. can someone tell me the correct stat percents please. https://worldofwarcraft.blizzard.com/en-us/character/us/malganis/okomoto/ there is the link to my armory if you wanna roast me to tell me whats wrong. and yes i have had shit luck in keys
shadow ibex
celest forge
Wow people are harsh in 13's and 14's
fossil thistle
I can see the add damage being really good and useful during P2
fossil thistle
ok i need some help. can someone tell me the correct stat percents please. ht...
You’re 20 ilvl off being BIS worry less
pearl wind
in lower keys with affix does shattering throw instantly kill affix shield lady?
halcyon valve
in lower keys with affix does shattering throw instantly kill affix shield lady?
never tried tbh
merry snow
use the other one has less cd and does almost the same dmg shattering throw is more for pvp
ionic reef
Idk but I'm gonna test it
minor gust
yepp
I had a hunter brick a 16 eco doing almost no dmg on boss and didn't use a single cc trap for the adds he was on
slow saddle
Smells like ya avg hunter // mage player
pearl wind
meta-aped into groups and carried enough times
wide fossil
Is there a way to get just perma cleaves? cuz i sometime notice that i just spam cleave in full aoe pulls
I cant seem to figure out how to recreate it
soft gust
Are you running blademasters torment?
pearl wind
if you have enough haste, from lust, and you get exhilarating blows resets, and blademaster's torment up,
soft gust
Exhilarating blows also allows resets back to back if youre lucky
pearl wind
then yeah you basically have gcd-timed cleaves
wide fossil
No warlord's torment @soft gust
ah
ok
Maybe blademaster's torment is better then no ?
wide fossil
Yea so do i
But it feels so good
just spamming cleave
when u get into the reset spamm
slow saddle
Top are great but damn so many scrub mages, and hunters ive had
wide fossil
Can anyone link that website where u can see "best simming" trinkets ?
wide fossil
no sacbrood?
unkempt wren
Mth pacemaker, I want a myth idol to accompany it! Ain't a mythic raider so no antenna for me
minor gust
Can anyone link that website where u can see "best simming" trinkets ?
Don't bother just use top gear to sim everything yourself
Bloodmallet isn't great
slow saddle
Mth pacemaker, I want a myth idol to accompany it! Ain't a mythic raider so no a...
Hc antenna prob better than myth pace?
slow saddle
no sacbrood?
Sac prob not bad either
light sentinel
does warrior only get stronger with tier set?