arms

[elder zealot]

I follow Critcake's opener, which is:
TRoar -> Sweeping Strikes -> Ravager -> Avatar -> Warbreaker -> Demolish

[hollow plover]

respectfully dont do that conceptually

instead of following one person, follow the APL

yea critcake is good but he can make mistakes

he can be confused

[elder zealot]

What's APL?

[hollow plover]

https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/blob/thewarwithin/ActionPriorityLists/default/warrior_arms.simc

it's what sims use to simulate playing the character

[elder zealot]

Ah I see, didn't know this existed, thanks!

So if I'm reading this correctly, it looks like it should be:
Roar -> Sweep -> Warbreaker -> Ravager -> Avatar -> Demolish

[hollow plover]

actions.colossus_aoe+=/demolish,if=buff.colossal_might.stack=10&(debuff.colossus_smash.remains>=2|cooldown.colossus_smash.remains>=10|cooldown.warbreaker.remains>=10)

refering to this line ?

that line means you dont insta click demolish

[elder zealot]

I was looking at the block starting on line 47

[hollow plover]

yes okay

the opener is
combat start -- charge -- cleave (to apply deep wounds) -- thunderclap (if rend is talented to apply rend) -- Roar -- sweep -- warbreaker -- ravager + avatar -- cleave+mortal strikes to get to 10 stacks of colossal might -- demolish at 10 stacks of colossal might

the demolish part of this requires 10 stacks of colossal might, if you dont have those 10 stacks then you keep moving down the prio list

[elder zealot]

Yep, that's what I thought, cool I'll give this a try

[hollow plover]

also the reason why ravager comes after warbreaker is because ravager gives a gigantic buff to cleave damage

u rly dont want to waste merciless bonegrinder

NODDERS

[elder zealot]

Yeah, I think the most challenging (fun?) part of it is trying to line up your Collat's with at least a Ravager or something

[hollow plover]

ye

[elder zealot]

This APL is cool, it kinda answers the other question I've had for awhile now: in Execute phase for Slayer, whether you ever Bladestorm or not

[hollow plover]

you can thank our warriorbrains for it

they theorycraft possible ideas and then they simulate them en mass, slowly improving this APL over time

[elder zealot]

Would that be Archimtiros? 😂

[hollow plover]

im not sure if archi is still actively participating in writing the apl but he certainly does a shitton using the apl

well regardless

hi @latent moss

[elder zealot]

I wish Farover streamed / did videos 🙏🏼

[hollow plover]

he streams from time to time wdym

@iron ibex you here big mans?

what was ur stream again?

I mean i know tomelvis in his group streams and uploads, under the name Zac on youtube

but thats not warr pov i suppose

[slow saddle]

Not rly happens randmly

[iron ibex]

i dont stream

[hollow plover]

didnt u stream some s2 keys ?

[iron ibex]

no

[hollow plover]

wtf

my brain be misremembering then

[buoyant axle]

fck it im doin it

[boreal quartz]

dont ask me what spec i play

[fresh spire]

Archi does the clean up and fact checking before pushing stuff to raid bots. Also spends like 6 hours cleaning up the fury apl every time as warriorsari giga cooks it.
Arms is maintained by walhe/myself

[tacit crystal]

fishi fishi fishi

fishi are you apart of the 123 parses in the raid

[hasty pumice]

i like your name

[tacit crystal]

hes baiting you

bro phil

what happebed to arms troll

@cunning comet scream at him

[cunning comet]

My mic didn't pick it up sorry

[fossil root]

https://tenor.com/view/fma-full-metal-alchemist-armstrong-believe-sparkly-gif-5119008

ARMStrong

[hidden minnow]

hey guys is tehre any efficient way to macro the cursed stone idol trinket into some other cds? the 1 sec channel is a bit confusing

[fresh spire]

Just use the trinket when after you charge

[shadow ibex]

Only 90 sec trinket and its truly cursed

[brave spindle]

do we know if arms is closer to fury in m+ after the buffs?

[eager sigil]

if you are gonna play dps warrior it doesnt matter what spec

[halcyon valve]

Just play arms

Arms good

[balmy kindle]

demo crit = dopamine and dopamine is good

[lapis harbor]

Anyone has a rotatino guide

for arms?

[slow saddle]

Slarms?

[hasty pumice]

getting there

btw I never changed chars or anything but suddenly it doesnt show my last season ranking

trying to figure out wh

why

[hollow plover]

Dankeee for the input

[outer forge]

Wow head, icy veins or warbreaker.gg check #dps-faq

[astral yarrow]

reauthenticate bnet with raider io

but if you are above your last season rating it stop displaying it

[zealous pivot]

does somebody have the gif of the cat doing like MS slam slam slam

[hasty pumice]

I'm not, I was 3.4k sth

[astral yarrow]

then do the raider io thing

[hasty pumice]

I did

still doesnt showe

[edgy quest]

Is Arms back?

[astral yarrow]

ned to wait until resync tom,orrow morning after doing it

[slow saddle]

Never was gone❤️‍🔥

[hasty pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/tyler1-shirt-rip-gif-26569973

[shadow ibex]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898720803586048/1042069193392136223/20221115_132954.gif

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1042762634539319366/1053485451668901988/20221217_013459.gif

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898720803586048/1114308309143519383/IMG_3926.gif

a few classics

[zealous pivot]

u are a god

ty

[fresh spire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898720803586048/1042139795595468810/20221115_135144.gif

[zealous pivot]

❤️ you guys are goats

fury channel ignored me

uncultured swine

[mortal crag]

does colo still go crit/mast?

or?

what stats?

[stuck belfry]

ARMS IS BACK BAYBEEEE

[mortal crag]

no arms gamer to help me w stats

🙁

sadge

[stuck belfry]

crit haste bro

go sim your gear

[mortal crag]

s2 it was crit/mast

for colo

[ripe hill]

The thunderclap used during the sweep strike on simc gives a collateral damage stack based on the number of targets that did the damage, but it wasn't in the real game. Is this bug on simc?

[latent moss]

sim cro

[shadow ibex]

who cares what the clanker says go crit/mast for biggest possible demolish

[flint cedar]

Thank you guys very much! I was feeling Arms was better for me in 11.2 but all other sites were pointing at fury.

[shadow ibex]

[silent saddle]

hey all, just a couple nuanced questions after not seeing it in the wowhead guide:

1. Should I be holding any specific cooldowns for other cooldowns? I noticed after a few keys that we have lots of CDs and they seem to come up at variable times

2. On that note, is there any specific cooldowns I should use in a particular order? e.g. don't send X before Y, or always send Y before X, etc.

[shadow ibex]

avatar lasts 20 secs and we have a ton of CDR with AM and the hero talents reducing their own abilities

usually pretty safe to send things on cooldown. 20 sec duration on avatar vs 10 sec duration on CS means you can send an avatar like 10 sec before a CS is ready and it will still cover the full window

and thats before u get into AM cdr etc

[silent saddle]

I see okay. I guess the specific cooldown combo I see almost lining up is war breaker and demolisher, so that's where I specifically had a question

Does it go warbreaker > demolisher? And should I wait at least 5-10s for those to line up?

[shadow ibex]

they line up frequent enough

sometimes they dont cuz you got insane crit rng with ms and in that case idt there is a perfect rule. m+ is gonna be some nuance

[silent saddle]

Yeah I'm strictly m+, so I guess I wanted to see if I'm losing out on bigger dmg if I'm not holding demolisher a few seconds to let war breaker come off cd

[shadow ibex]

idt there's a hold for > 8 globals or anything in the aoe apl

in theory could you get the demo back if you cast it and have like 15 seconds left on wb CD? idk probably?

got 10 additional seconds after the WB cast

just crit everything

[silent saddle]

My crit is also suuuper low so I need to work on that unlucky drops so far

Shit ton of haste though

Went Oathsworn enchant just because wowhead told me to but I might get the crit proc enchant instead

[minor gust]

Just be flexible with what your group comp needs. If the other two DPS are aoe blasters swap to Slayer or fury for better boss dam. If someone has really good boss dam then be the aoe guy and play colossus

[silent saddle]

how are you guys simming for m+?

is dungeon slice adequate or no

[minor gust]

There is no 100% accurate way to sim for M+ just pick your poison.

[hasty pumice]

Can you send me your slayer arms setup for M+? I don't wanna use wowhead stuff and farover is on col all the time

I swapped some talents around for higher boss damage tho, just copying farover with the bleed damage up and overpower damage up, but I'm always between 3.2-4m DPS on ST bosses

Which feels pretty lackluster

I mean I guess it's more a middle of the pack thing, there's probably even worse boss damage there, but it doesn't feel exciting

[minor gust]

I think Colossus is fine as long as your group is not all shit at boss dam. Cols burst will help make it useful on bosses that will have multiple targets.

Not at PC but if you search Walhes chat history he links a Slayer build

[hasty pumice]

Will check it out, just wondering if talent swap from 5-25% cleave damage to 10-50% bleed damage is a huge difference overall

I don't notice much in either direction when I swap it around, just that my bleed damage is crazy high

[slow saddle]

Man arms woudlda been SO In on RWF

IF we have had condemn

[hasty pumice]

What's condemn?

[minor gust]

Oh art vs OAM I think ART + warlords is way better

It's not much of an aoe loss at all because of bleeds and the talents will give you ST

[hasty pumice]

I don't know the abbreviations

[minor gust]

Arterial bleed vs one against many in the Colossus tree

[hasty pumice]

But yeah I'm just using farover's spec, I thought the same. Only sucks that tclap is 5 target capped

[slow saddle]

y bleeds bleed a lot

just sweep before you clap

hits 10 doesnt it ?

😉

[hasty pumice]

It does?

If so that interaction went above my head crazy style

[minor gust]

I think that bug was recently fixed

Not 100% tho

[minor gust]

It's a bug

[hasty pumice]

Fair, cause it doesn't make any sense

[slow saddle]

Do we have a link for the MEME M+ spec

juggernaut one

[minor gust]

I just tend to prio TC more than OP to make sure I have rends out and fecupped

[hasty pumice]

I just have the two bleeds track on my nameplates

[slow saddle]

found it

[hasty pumice]

Though how does tclap prio the targets

Is it the 5 closest ones?

Or 5 random ones

[minor gust]

Walhe said no rend dream was dead but should be on wowhead or DPS faq

[minor gust]

Random. It could target all 5 that already have rend

It's pretty bad

[slow saddle]

ok but what do i remove to get rend

[latent moss]

just drop jugg and path into blord

[hasty pumice]

[zenith warren]

you guys tried hm tazavesh? any tips?

[minor gust]

Take it slow

[slow saddle]

LOL

fuck that im going to meme

not actually perform

[minor gust]

I've only done one Slayer key so far it actually felt so bad

[hasty pumice]

[slow saddle]

i mean i gota try it

[minor gust]

Coulda been bad play on my end from playing to much fury but it was not there

[slow saddle]

with juggernaut

like why not meme for a while im so boored running ara karas

for trinket

and atm i have 0 and i mean 0 crit

so cba to play col

[latent moss]

ye i mean

it aint slayer fury

i hate slarms anyway

[hasty pumice]

Arms walked so fury could run

[latent moss]

dogshit spec

dogshit design

colo owns tho

[hasty pumice]

Hey easy there easy

[minor gust]

I thought the ST would at least be much better than col but it really didn't feel that much better at all tbh

[hasty pumice]

Let's go back to wow classic roots and give slam actually good damage but a cast time

[rare kite]

no not easy, spec is ass. arms needs god

[latent moss]

ye it needs time

to do good st

[minor gust]

It was a 15 streets

Had time maybe

[latent moss]

unlucky

[hasty pumice]

It plays fun, but it's ass, it is what it is

[latent moss]

fury time if u need st

[minor gust]

Yeah

[latent moss]

colo arm for aoe thane for both

[hasty pumice]

Can you save me from pug hell, Mr troll #4?

[latent moss]

gg

[minor gust]

Streets and Dawn are 100% always fury keys for me

Banger dungeons for fury

[latent moss]

fury st is crazy

[minor gust]

Best you can do is find some homies to key with. I never push keys without the boys. Pugging is a cancer in this game

[rare kite]

kind of agree for colossus. the cd desync sucks so bad tho, but hey atleast it isn't slayer jugg highrolling

so could be worse

[hasty pumice]

I add people and try to push with them, but either they slack behind or have their own mates

[latent moss]

piano gameplay

[hasty pumice]

I feel like I'm griefing myself hard, only missing Hoa 14 for 14 resil, but like so many keys are just bricked

[minor gust]

Just how it is. It's def not easy to find ppl to consistently do keys with

[latent moss]

1 5 3 4 1 2 5 3 5 1 2

ahh

rotation

[hasty pumice]

And it takes ages to get into keys as arms

I did a few runs with my guild m+ group cause one of their dps were missing and fuck me

It's actually easy mode to have a group with comms

[minor gust]

Yee

[hasty pumice]

I wonder how far I'd be already if I had a fixed group instead of pugging

Oh well, such is life

[minor gust]

Also don't feel bad about bricking HOA with pugs

That key is a nightmare

Right now

[hasty pumice]

True and real

The first half is the worst

Every single key dies before the second boss

Or during it

And the timer feels tight

[minor gust]

My key was a 17 HOA

We attempted it wiped on first pull

[hasty pumice]

Oh you already went to 17?

Jesus

[glossy shell]

Is it really worth taking skull splitter in colossus build for m +? Cuz it seems shit

[hasty pumice]

It technically is but fuck that talent I'm not using it

What's your guys' favourite key? I think to me it's still probably floodgate

Shit is engaging almost all the way through

[glossy shell]

For some reason I like halls the most🤣

[rare kite]

gambit, by far

[hasty pumice]

Because it's free?

[rare kite]

because big pulls are fun

[minor gust]

Both taz dungeons are pretty easy now

[rare kite]

none of the mobs feel like ass to play,unless you pull 4 of those guys before first boss and they desync the area denial

[latent moss]

for me hoa seems the hardest rn

[minor gust]

Yeah HOA is currently the hardest right now

It needs nerfs next

[latent moss]

trash is very rough icl

[minor gust]

Especially the obliterators

[slow saddle]

juggernaut

[minor gust]

Basically right now in high HOA keys if you don't got good kick coordination your not timing HOA

[slow saddle]

is kindda turbo fun to play

when both Cleave and OP procs

[shadow ibex]

If SD had some aoe value outside of bs cdr mfe I think slayer would be fun

[slow saddle]

ye but i just spam

op and cleave

^_^

peak gameplay

[rare kite]

so juggernaut is fun to play when you don't press the button that has anything to do with juggernaut?

[latent moss]

heavy handed in class tree

[shadow ibex]

I did my first slayer key last night and yea just eventually turned into mashing cleave and op

[latent moss]

fury exe hits +3 enemies if cleaved

[shadow ibex]

Idk what I was doing but lots of spins and reap dam felt like I did the thing

[minor gust]

Either that or it just hits harder maybe exe cleaved at 100% of the dmg

[shadow ibex]

If we got half of what prot got im happy man

[sacred zodiac]

mfe would actually be fun in aoe if meat cleaver was soft capped i just realized

[latent moss]

man

i cant lie

[shadow ibex]

No jug and just straight dmg on exe

[latent moss]

pwar execute feels a lot better xd

[shadow ibex]

Must be nice man

[sacred zodiac]

how does 2p interact with sweeped/meat clevered executes?

[minor gust]

Yeah it's pretty disgusting

[latent moss]

actually good question but i think meat cleaver

just repeats damage

but mfe is after meat cleaver calculation

[shadow ibex]

Sweep consumes stuff like ep but idk about mfe

[latent moss]

iirc sweep and meat cleaver are different

im not sure tho

[sacred zodiac]

ik meat cleaver correctly always consumed mfe but wouldnt always give you the bladestorm refund

this was changed at the end of nerubar? iirc

so execute would successfully always consume the mfe

[latent moss]

ye good point im not sure but i never noticed crazy bladestorm cdr

in aoe

[shadow ibex]

Yea they made it so you wouldn't have to snipe stacks i guess

[sacred zodiac]

now the question is whether a sweeped execute also reapplies mfe if consumed from an SD

[latent moss]

or do u have to exe the target that has mfe

[sacred zodiac]

your MFE generation is constant

no you can sweep executes onto mfe debuffed enemies and get cdr

and at least from how it feels it still prefers your main target for mfe application but this is not scientific at all

[willow lance]

Does a lot of the big spiking damage come from just lining up your cooldowns perfectly? I feel wildly inconsistent and it's probably because my opener sucks. But I see people like crit cake or are the ones just spike up to like 18 or 20? And I don't know what I'm doing wrong. I'm testing it in small keys though I don't know if that makes a difference

[minor gust]

That big spike is always gonna be demolish going off

[slow saddle]

Master i shall try this

[minor gust]

It's currently a tactical nuke

[slow saddle]

also get that trinket from hoa 😄

[thick kelp]

Move the rage node to double charge

I didnt pay attention to class talents

[slow saddle]

Did presumed it was a mistake

😛

guess imma be spammin op 😛

Improved bloodborne 1 talent soon?

it has the power of 1 point

in 2 points

[full fulcrum]

How low are we supposed to get the Cooldown of Ravager? I cant get it low enought to line up with Avatar

[thick kelp]

it doesnt

[minor gust]

Your second ava is not gonna have a ravager with it

[full fulcrum]

so just use it when up? preferable with Warbreaker or not

[thick kelp]

always with warbreaker

[minor gust]

Send rav always with a WB

[full fulcrum]

good to know ty 😄

[spiral coral]

Takes a couple days sometimes

[mellow seal]

SPEC IS SO BUTTON BLOATED

[vast surge]

Was doing a 10 priory and killed myself on the reflect shield mini boss cause I hit a massive demolish while the shield was up.

[boreal quartz]

wdym

this is peak

surely

[spring rune]

For the first pull of a dungeon do you end up sending demolish before 10 stacks or waiting to ramp it before going all in?

[minor gust]

It's ok TR will be removed and we will get passive ravager

[sturdy hearth]

I tend to ramp it up, I can spread rend more in the meantime, just wish avatar could grant 10 colossal might stack 🙁

[spring rune]

That would be sick. Saw some folks aren't taking collateral dmg so thought maybe an early SS and bleeds. Mostly thinking like first pull of priory

[boreal remnant]

what WA pack is that

[boreal remnant]

you can get it to 10 stacks very very fast with sweeping + ms

you get like 3 stacks per ms

[spring rune]

So maybe break from standard wow head rotation to stack it up for the first pull with SS?

[boreal remnant]

So long as you get it inside of your CS window

it's preferrable to have higher stacks but otherwise just send it if it'll expire

[boreal quartz]

My own

[boreal remnant]

hot

[boreal quartz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-SaB9mdISU it's mega effort to make for all classes tho

(im awful at sv)

[spring rune]

Thanks. I'll give that a shot. Saw a high key Arms drops CS so tried that too

[boreal remnant]

whoever has tried to make a WA pack realizes how difficult it is

[boreal quartz]

Idk i have all hunters

Warlock and dps war

I should finish ele but cba

[boreal remnant]

the white girl music in the background is peak

[lament sigil]

hey guys
in the mailroom in tazavesh in HM , does avatar remove the roots from picking up the bomb>?

[minor gust]

Pretty sure even wowhead opener has you build stacks before sending demolish in AOE. But yeah always get 10 stacks before sending demolish in AOE. Unless for whatever reason CS will fall off before you send demo

[minor gust]

Yes

That boss is a fury angle so you can have reck for every bomb set

[spring rune]

Guess I didn't think much about making sure to send CS while demolish was up.that could be part of my problem too

[fresh spire]

Can also bladestorm to break too

[tacit crystal]

csgo csgo

[minor gust]

Huh I would hope your pressing WB before demolish

[boreal remnant]

I'm not sure if it's changed much since last season but my opener in aoe is always charge > tc > roar > sweeping > ravager > ava + pot + trink etc > wb > rotation

[minor gust]

Yeah opener is still the same

[elder zealot]

I was doing that opener too (based on a Critcake vid), but the APL is slightly different

[boreal remnant]

not sure what opener the APL is doing

haven't looked at any sims

I just do what critcake tells me and he doesn't know what he's doing

he just presses buttons

[elder zealot]

The APL does roar > sweep > warbreaker > ravager > avatar > demolish

[boreal remnant]

that sounds so weird in my head after a whole season of my opener xd

[fresh spire]

correct

[boreal remnant]

just imagining doing that feels weird

[fresh spire]

relaying ravager for MBG value>warbreaker

[minor gust]

I don't think apl takes into account demo stacks right Fishy?

In aoe

[fresh spire]

but you should Mortal strike before demolish unless you have stacks

[minor gust]

Like apl isn't gonna build to 10 before sending

[fresh spire]

doesn't have anything on the apl as after the first it will always cast at 10

[minor gust]

Yeah

[fresh spire]

AOE it has it to send on 10

st its moment MS is on cd before 10 stacks then prios demolish>ms when 10 stacks

[minor gust]

So then wouldn't this be wrong then assuming no stacks opener

[fresh spire]

on aoe it would use cleave>ms until 10 stacks then send
on ST it would make sure it has 10 stacks or MS is on cd then send

since it gets 10 stacks insane fast on aoe

[minor gust]

Still wtb passive rav and rend applied another way to make the opener less bloated

[boreal remnant]

real

give arms whirling blades

[fresh spire]

after playing prot with passive ravager

[boreal remnant]

or whatever the prot talent is called

[fresh spire]

i'd love to see it join arms/fury even if its under reck/avatar casts auto casting it

[boreal remnant]

and also make avatar get cdr

[elder zealot]

Yeah it's kind of weird that Prot got a bunch of things that seems like it would fit Arms more, like Whirling Blades, Heavy Handed, etc.

[minor gust]

Tie ravager to ava and buff it to compensate while also tying SKS and rend to WB

[fresh spire]

we're likely to get a fix up next expansion

[minor gust]

[fresh spire]

ngl i'd even love to see 3 target execute join arms too

[minor gust]

Yup

[elder zealot]

Yeah, even if it's Slayer only

[minor gust]

We were just talking about that earlier

[fresh spire]

try get slayer out of the cleave aoe, into Reap/execute 3 target

SL key moment

[quaint otter]

https://tenor.com/view/armswarrior-warrior-warriorwow-armswow-armswarriorwow-gif-27099127

[minor gust]

We need exe cleave and DF season 3 tier and exe is big dog

[elder zealot]

I know one of the things Archim put on his wishlist too is bringing back Condemn 😂

[fresh spire]

Condemn unironically would go hard if it replaced spear

[minor gust]

Fury would have sick versions too if this was in Slayer tree

Exe is cleaved at 100% for fury and SD casts a buffed WW

[fresh spire]

condemn having the 100-80 usable range if we got the 3x execute from prot too

[spring rune]

Seen some high key Arms players grabbing SKS but Archon show most don't. Is it dungeon dependent or just high keys need it more?

[fresh spire]

Reap should work from SD usage

[thick kelp]

its personal feelings dependent

You lose around 0.4% to grab SoA > SkS

[minor gust]

Nooooo your not allowed to play like that you have to pick the best possible set up

[boreal remnant]

https://i.imgflip.com/a2hzx9.gif

gotta do some arms keys

fury is so boring

[minor gust]

Opposite for me I'm so bored of arms right now and having so much fun with fury

Everytime I do an arms key I just wanna swap back to fury

[boreal remnant]

Idk after 14 streets keys to farm the boots doing nothing but thunderblast it gets old

[minor gust]

Idc if demolish is a nuke right now

[boreal remnant]

is it

I have no idea how good arms is

after the buff

[minor gust]

Very good aoe

Demolish usually ends up doing same dmg as cleave and your bleeds fuck

[boreal remnant]

playing sks now?

[minor gust]

Yeah

But if u hate it can play SOA

[boreal remnant]

it's fine it's good prio

[minor gust]

Yeah

I also like it for the rage gain. You do a lot of cleave MS and TC spam in big pulls

So good EB rng can be expensive

Nice having that lil rage bump from sks

[boreal remnant]

my stats are kinda fucked for col though

I'm geared for fury

need more crit

[minor gust]

Same but I just got neck and ring from streets

[quaint otter]

Wrong

Arms is super back

[minor gust]

Chillin with 25% Crit is fine

[quaint otter]

https://tenor.com/view/armswarrior-warrior-warriorwow-armswow-armswarriorwow-gif-27099127

[minor gust]

Playing warlords to right now

So that helps the demo Crit

And idol trinket

[boreal remnant]

yeah I need to get idol as well

[minor gust]

Col slaps in the big AOE dungeons

Just play with a spec that's gonna carry boss dam

[boreal remnant]

so how do you use sks

apl just puts it one under ms

[thick kelp]

on cd

[boreal remnant]

on aoe

god I hate this new bug that just reset your graphics drivers whenever it needs to load in your model

why am I paying monthly to beta test

[minor gust]

Because Blizz is a small indie company that fires its QA because the players test for them

[boreal remnant]

it's happened mid pull in raids for me

screen just goes black, comes back after a few seconds, UI is all out of whack

[boreal quartz]

Csgo

[boreal quartz]

Whenever i spec destro to Demo on my lock it full resets by bars

Doesnt for aff tho

Dogshit game

[minor gust]

Holy Phill your subbed to the game right now

[small grail]

what tier should we use delvers bounty on?

for a hero piece?

[boreal remnant]

8

TIL you can stand inside of the pull-in zone on 2nd boss streets with dbts

[shadow ibex]

is that what this shit is

[sacred zodiac]

plumber has a module that gimps your appearance tab if you use that often

otherwise if you crash without using that good luck its a known issue

[boreal remnant]

yeah heard of it but not using it

[night niche]

hey any tips on what settings to put on raidbot sims for arms?

[sturdy hearth]

fml, completely missplayed loomithar P1, doing abysmall dps 🙁

[grim haven]

hi

[boreal quartz]

Fully normal 5 min st

[boreal quartz]

HALLO!

[night niche]

thank you

[spiral coral]

https://tenor.com/view/john-cena-r-u-sure-about-that-gif-gif-684040510011469071

[heavy patio]

the going black thing is base game issue, know some peeps that use practically 0 addons and have it happen.

For me its whenever I transmog, each and ever piece, any button in the window causes constant reloads, shape shifts etc

[spiral coral]

Better Wardrobe?

[heavy patio]

i use 0 transmog addons

[spiral coral]

weird

maybe use better wardrobe lmao

[heavy patio]

even tested it myself on two different computers one with 0 addons one with all of my normal ones

the game is just fucked

[spiral coral]

only time that happens to me is when Im in dorn and theres a shit ton of ppl around

but I find one-two mogs and set them for the season

that shit is expensive

[heavy patio]

give it a few days inevitably will get fixxed, they got another rep bug goin on so they're probs busy trying to fix that shitshow

[sacred zodiac]

a similar bug like this has been in since nerubar

this one and the old one are known bugs and being worked on tho

[vast helm]

bros hows our Arms baby going?

we good ?

[sacred zodiac]

buff revived it but your screen is still flashing red

[celest forge]

No matter how much I try I can never get enough cleaves out

At least that's what wowanalyzer thinks, dunno how accurate it is

[devout pewter]

eh, i'd never 100% trust these things

[heavy patio]

I didn't think wow analyzer was any good for m+

[wet magnet]

what's the priority on Cleave when fighting two targets and without Sweeping Strikes up? I'm assuming it's MS > Skullsplitter > Overpower > Cleave > Slam since Fervor just makes it a better Slam

[warm dove]

Slayer in M+; how troll am I if I play that? Is the dungeon practically 2 dps if I do that? 😅

[sour forge]

There’s a no rend build that focuses on prio/st

[warm dove]

Okay so not total troll

[grim haven]

hi

[devout pewter]

what's the consensus on crafting stuff btw? still just wait?

[latent moss]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898720803586048/1409208889584517150/image.png?ex=68ac8b8d&is=68ab3a0d&hm=6e06ae6a090b74dcba5cc3a2f719b0569afbeec42d7ebd0a632da6a76a6bd421&=&format=webp&quality=lossless

this is currently the best build

there is a build where u drop rend, battlelord, bloodletting, 1 point in deft experience, and go full juggernaut massacre

but jugg in m+ isnt very good

if u need st u play fury

if u need aoe u play colo arms

if u care about being optimal ofc

[latent moss]

if u need both u play thane fury

[sturdy hearth]

i'll try this on araz

[minor gust]

if you are just addicted to the sound of we play thane

[latent moss]

kaching slayer

but fury slayer type shit

[weary laurel]

Is arms the betterspec now or?

considering a hard swap if so

[dim basalt]

no

[sturdy hearth]

no

[shadow ibex]

Hear it in my sleep

https://tenor.com/view/the-voices-meme-cat-gif-23917781

[warm dove]

Ooo I like this. I just can't f with colo. It's so weird to channel demolish I dunno

[spiral coral]

only time it should be weird is on boss fights and you can't stand still for a bit

you'll get used to it

(maybe)

I go back n forth with my love for demo

[latent moss]

ye its an abusive relationship

stockholm syndrome hero talent

[spiral coral]

stockholm syndrome class

[latent moss]

true

[spiral coral]

I'll play other classes/specs. Be mid fucking rotation and will be like "I wish I was on my warrior right now" lmao

[latent moss]

ye idk this class curses u

[spiral coral]

I’m raising on my alt hunter tonight

Looked up the single target rotation

It’s like, 2 things

[latent moss]

hunter moment

[shadow ibex]

no other rage class

plenty of energy classes

i hate energy

[latent moss]

same

[shadow ibex]

and dh is dumb

[latent moss]

especially rogue

REMOVE TEA

[spiral coral]

Tbh it doesn’t look fun. Gonna probs do it on my mage.

[shadow ibex]

dk is closest thing we got

[latent moss]

tea is so fucking evil

it gives u just enough energy so u dont need haste for energy regen

[shadow ibex]

need a new class

that also uses rage

[latent moss]

12.0 warrior will be a new class

[sour forge]

Am I a joke to you 🐻

[icy mulch]

Been playing some arms, did they change our auto attack cone again? Or Hitboxes. Cause I'm seeing times where my auto attack is "out of range" when I'm looking directly at the mob, point blank.

[spiral coral]

I thought the cone/where demo hit was played with

But, as far as I know nothing else hit box got changed

[mortal niche]

new spec, healer warrior when

[rapid bronze]

This is quite funny. We have fewer people playing than survival hunters yet we are S tier on account of our vibes aura

[latent moss]

arms does powerful overalls

[rapid bronze]

Yeah I’m regularly on top of the meters except when playing with a very good frost dk and it’s 50-50 usually depending on the dungeon

[shadow ibex]

what dat

https://tenor.com/view/cant-see-shit-gif-10340128

[sour forge]

https://tenor.com/view/i-will-catch-you-cocaine-bear-come-here-running-roaring-gif-10422405426499635879

[smoky kayak]

Colossus has really high AoE potential now, it just has next to no ST

v good for weekly keys

[rapid bronze]

Yeah it feels really good, almost hit 30 m in the opening pull of ecodome on a 12

Wonder if it’s worth using the screams trinket instead of seaforium for better boss damage

[fossil root]

https://tenor.com/view/copium-gif-766857345458198993

[edgy solstice]

samurai inc

[sour forge]

Nono

Int warrior coming

The true tactician class

[sturdy hearth]

yeah the ST is sus, i'm kinda happy when I can do 3M5 on a boss

[halcyon valve]

Aura

Quality over quantity as they say

[shadow ibex]

gotta pull things in to the boss

demolish doesnt discriminate

[spiral coral]

Question

To help out in st is it worth it to use my temp pot at the beginning with all my CDs or towards the end when I have nothing left in the bag

M+

[minor gust]

always send pot with cds

[shadow ibex]

i wouldnt send pot without avatar

obv dont line up 5min vs 90 but feel like that's safe unless route calls for it elsewhere

and probably gonna line up anyway

dont drink pot natty with nothing plz

[plucky cargo]

looking at arms again after maining fury for very long and was wondering do we no longer optimize sweeping strikes with mortal strike

[teal fossil]

nothing to optimize

[acoustic dove]

Guys a question, is normal demolish outdps cleave?

In arakara +13 3 mins ago

[spiral coral]

Yep

Looks like the normal breakdown

[acoustic dove]

Hum

I think playing super wrong

lol

[spiral coral]

Feel like your Ms should be higher

[acoustic dove]

Yea

[spiral coral]

But comparing logs to others is the best bet

[acoustic dove]

Think im missing press a little

[spiral coral]

Or wow analyzer

[acoustic dove]

Well, super thanks friend

🙂

[spiral coral]

If you’re playing “wrong”, it’s not that off lol

Also m+s are never perfect. Tank pulls, diff buffs, diff comps etc.

[acoustic dove]

Yep

I just thinking here im wrong

Bc in s2, my cleave is the top damage

[fresh spire]

if you are comparing to sims cleave has a few things tied into it that isn't like it on details

[spiral coral]

Nah demo cranking

[fresh spire]

Demolish did get buffed + tier buffed it too

[acoustic dove]

Yea, i will try maximize use MS more

[spiral coral]

I mean you may have used it 100% optimally idk. That’s just a damage breakdown.

[wet magnet]

okay I'm definitely not using demolish right

Cleave is always my highest ability by a long shot

I think I'm paying attention to group positioning and having sweeping up for the first two swings, so it must be that I wasn't waiting for ten stacks before using it in the opener?

[spiral coral]

Making sure you’re in sweeping strikes and warbreaker windows is a bit more important than focusing on the 10 stacks. Also it’s a cone frontal so make sure everything is in the path. But, just follow prio. And damage breakdowns aren’t a good indicator if things are being pressed correctly.

[hollow wave]

You guys optimize Collateral damage or just throw it?

[wet magnet]

I definitely haven't been thinking about it, haha

[shadow ibex]

MS should really be kept on CD as colossus

4pc value and lots of cdr

[vague ore]

I mostly play fury, my stats look like this. Is it horrible to play arms like this? I dont have any gear to swap

[minor gust]

you will do at most 2% less dmg stats arent real

just play the game

[vague ore]

thank you

[untold pewter]

Just grind some necks/rings with crit haste and the swap will be easy

[near ice]

anyone cook up a colossus mythic soul hunters build yet

[glacial rapids]

You mean like the one you can find on wowhead? Linked to from the dps section of this discord.

[near ice]

buddy

gn

[high finch]

guys is arms closer to fury now for m+ and raid?

because on 11.2 release it wasn't that good right?

[minor gust]

its 8% closer

[green minnow]

[wet magnet]

noticing that a slim majority of Arms keys rn are foregoing Skullsplitter and just taking the second rank of Bloodborne instead, is anyone getting a lot of value out of SS?

[tacit crystal]

its people not wanting to press skullspliter

the difference between the choices you have are so minimal

[wet magnet]

the damage output is so minimal, I wonder if it'd make the rotation feel worse. more sitting waiting for rage

[teal fossil]

the damage output of SKS?

SKS itself doesnt do damage

and rage is also not real especially in aoe

[shadow ibex]

it can be if ur unlucky but rather just invite a shaman than tailor my build

[glacial rapids]

I don't understand... After the opener our rotation is a joke...So 1 extra button (SKS)is too much? I hope we aren't joking on BM hunters then.

[tacit crystal]

it feels bad to press because the global itself doesnt do damage

so it feels cosmetic

[wet magnet]

I find it fun enough to press as any other button, just noticing some data, hah

[vast cedar]

Does anyone have best practices with Cursed Stone Idol? I can't get it to macro with Avatar, /castsequence doesn't work. As far as i can tell Avatar doesn't buff the dmg of the cast, so im using it before Avatar. So basically im Dragon Roar>Idol>Avatar>Sweeping Strikes. Does this sound right to anyone who's played with it?

[wet magnet]

I've been seeing people say to channel right after charge in

[tacit crystal]

you charge and idol

[glacial rapids]

I have it macroed to avatar. Just hit it once while charging and it will channel... hit it again for avatar.

[vast cedar]

🤘

thx

finally got it 30 HoA later

[glacial rapids]

The macro is like any other on use trinket. But yeah, use it while charging.

[onyx rapids]

quick question!
Is there a big dps difference going from colossus S3 Tier 2 piece ⇒ 4 piece?

[glacial rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/sim-simyoself-gif-20048910

Most likely yes but sim yoself

[solid patio]

anyone else ntocie this from midnight preview

2 points:

1. lorthemar was ARMS warrior.

2. towards the end of the video there wars something that said "Take up ARMS" with more focus on the ARMS word.

is this hope or a sign? or nothing more to it?

[slate island]

[solid patio]

are you reading it the way i am? that they will be focusing on arms warriro?

or am i overthinking things

[balmy kindle]

[slate island]

I think we lose Arms to a support spec

[shadow ibex]

is he an arms warrior

didnt break a fear

[supple mountain]

We want to send roar, warbreaker and demolish on cd? Im guessing we dont want it to desyn from avatar right?

Like we should be able to send those in between avatar windows

[wet magnet]

Demolish has a variable CD so it's kinda whenever

[supple mountain]

gotcha so not a big deal to desync it from avatar

and as far as sweaping strike

do we send while tank gathers

or wait then send

[wet magnet]

it's only 15 seconds per use and there's a lot of benefit to maximizing its effect. I wouldn't use it earlier than right after charge in, personally

[plain fog]

id try no to demo on pull, i got slapped a few times on high keys, low keys you can send

[wet magnet]

does Collateral Damage count ANY ability that hits two targets, or just single-target abilities extended by Sweeping

[latent moss]

st

[supple mountain]

Just figured 45sec cd can prob be sent almost on cd in between avatar windows

[latent moss]

so tc wont give a stack but rend will

for example

[wet magnet]

right, what I expected

[void bay]

Lorthemar rerolled ret

[shadow ibex]

did they not fix tc sweeping bug

[latent moss]

im pretty sure they did

tc sweeping giving cd stacks is a simc bug

[shadow ibex]

i mean the extra targets

first pull after hyldbrande has 6 mobs. rend on all from sweep and tclap

doesnt seem consistent

but it was before they supposdly fixed it

[boreal hawk]

#showtooltip Avatar
/cast Avatar
/use 13

try this, working pretty good with me

before i had it inverted

and didnt work, i swapped and it works

[wet magnet]

ooooh... Cleave effectively adds to Collateral Damage stacks, since Fevor of Battle makes it Slam your target, and that free Slam is spread by Sweeping

[fair lotus]

So we dont try to sync war breaker with demo? Or is there like a rule, if its up in 10 sec we wait and use with

And what’s the minimum stacks we want before we send demo?

[tender jolt]

Is arms back?!

[nova marsh]

Its OVER

Go play frost!

[pearl wind]

[fair lotus]

Arms pump

[pearl wind]

10 stacks, try to sync them

[fair lotus]

Alright, but if they are 10-15 sec apart we dont wait?

[pearl wind]

id wait

CDR from mortal strike/cleave

[fair lotus]

Alright thanks

[dry mesa]

is anyone running the bleed build

just trying to figure out if there's a good ST version for raid and what the stat prios are

[balmy kindle]

Big oof

[pearl wind]

[minor gust]

If I didnt troll the first pull I beat da op rogue in this 14 flood guaranteed

[balmy kindle]

Wow sub rogue doing illegal damage

Bet it's like just from ST and evis cleaving

[pearl wind]

black powder brrr

[minor gust]

sub and assa are really busted

[tender jolt]

i just play warrior 🙁

[balmy kindle]

Wait sub no longer runs trickster ?

[pearl wind]

oh idk

[tender jolt]

used to fury main, then tried arms and i kinda like how it isnt as manic as fury haha

feels smooth and chunky at the same time haha

[pearl wind]

yea thats what i like about arms

bonk bonk bonk

[balmy kindle]

Wow BP doing so much damage

It's trickster but now they run BP.. interesting

[pearl wind]

whats the difference between rank 2 and 3 jumper cables

[thick kelp]

yeah u are supposed to bp at 3+ tar now with new tier

even with trickster

[balmy kindle]

Didn't know, was still stuck in S1 where it's just secret tech and evis

[balmy kindle]

Rez time, rank 2 is like 3 secs

Rank 1 is like 1s iirc, rank 3 at 5s

[pearl wind]

worth

[thorn field]

cast time is much faster yes

[hasty pumice]

still 0 invites to a single +15 key, god damn

[limpid drift]

outside of title warriors we're completely cooked

[void bay]

I would invite you Dr Phillip

[limpid drift]

you have to be doing 99th percentile to even compete with blue parsers of any other class

[hasty pumice]

should've timed all keys at +15 before applying to +15

my bad

[limpid drift]

thank you blizzard 🙏

[limpid drift]

surprised youve pugged that far as arms lol

[balmy kindle]

Bruh pushing +15s at week 2 suffering from success

[hasty pumice]

suffering from pugging

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-cat-scared-scaredcat-scared-cat-gif-7805744473386885099

[minor gust]

my priory and HOA are both at 12 while everything else is 15 and 16

[hasty pumice]

do you get accepted to pugs going solo?

cause at +14 it took some time but

I actually spent like 2 hours total

0 15 invitse

[minor gust]

I rarely pug

[hasty pumice]

708 ilvl, 4 set, mythic weapon

still no invites

[minor gust]

not worth playing the game that way

[hasty pumice]

nah i just love clearing dungeons, its fun and chill

[minor gust]

yeah that parts fine

pugging is not

[hasty pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/tyler1-shirt-rip-gif-26569973

[minor gust]

im not here to wait an hour between keys trying to get an invite or fill a grp just to wipe on first pull

[balmy kindle]

Get a fixed group that can accept a chad war main

[minor gust]

either I got some peeps to play with or I dont play at all

[limpid drift]

im gonna be real bro if youre clearing 14s week 2 and not making any friends

[hasty pumice]

I am making friends

but they're not pushing as hard

[limpid drift]

then play with them

pugs invite fotm

[balmy kindle]

+14 is almost touch grass level on week 2 tbf

[hasty pumice]

got a raider io recruitment thing up for a long time

[balmy kindle]

I think your average group is like 10s or pushing 12s -13s max

[hasty pumice]

I work out every day that I don't work, chilled with a friend yesterday evening and was on a party on saturday

i just play everytime I got free time left over

[limpid drift]

i add every monk and feral druid i play with thats good lmao

[balmy kindle]

Still 708 m weapon 4 set is crazy fast sir

[hasty pumice]

thats what she said

😿

[hasty pumice]

I mostly have DH tanks, but I add everyone who's cool or sometimes I get added

but then they often aren't online, play with other friends or do twinks

which is probably smarter

but I'm not interested in twinking ngl

[limpid drift]

ya uh... i hate twinks... uhhh... @daring heron comment?

[hasty pumice]

wat

[limpid drift]

gl bro

[hasty pumice]

[balmy kindle]

Still +14s on week 2 pug is mighty impressive on arms nonetheless

[hasty pumice]

brother is talking in riddles on a warrior discord

I see big stick I unga bunga, me no riddles

[hasty pumice]

the dungeons are just fun, minus halls first half

[hasty pumice]

seeing some of the log stats is pretty weird, that only 24 arms warriors have done streets 14 or higher apparently

prolly cause everybody who's smart just swaps to fury there

[balmy kindle]

Not surprised, arms warriors are rare as f and Imo streets is alot easier as fury

[hasty pumice]

also i pugged to 3k as fury and swapped to arms there

I might swap to fury for DB and Streets in higher keys, but rn everything is easily doable as arms

[pearl wind]

this is accurate

[pearl wind]

this is what i need but idk how to find one

[balmy kindle]

if blizz can give us crez or BL it will certainly help alot with comp

[balmy kindle]

Physical comps are so resrictive

[pearl wind]

i just carry tier 3 cables but another small buff and lust shout we'd be gaming

[slow saddle]

i do meme keys rank 2 are cheaper

[hasty pumice]

good bye hall 14 salute

after 2nd boss

tonk dedge

[sacred zodiac]

you wouldve timed it as fury sorry

[hasty pumice]

based true and real?

if I played fury, the tank wouldve survived

[balmy kindle]

Ass rogue doing ass damage

[void bay]

Did u tell him ur a warrior so you cant heal

[hasty pumice]

could've used bandages gg

[elder zealot]

You would've healed yourself more as Fury, which means the healer could have put more resources into the tank.
So yeah, if you played fury, the tank would've survived 🧠

[balmy kindle]

Why not question how 2 S tier DPS specs are behind brown class

[candid pecan]

from my experience pugging 13-14 keys

the so called S-tier dps specs cant play their class properly or they're missing gear.

[pearl wind]

in the streets 12 i was in earlier that we missed by 3 seconds, the tank died on the first boss and i taunt dbts tanked the boss and saved the day

but uh rip the tank seemed deficient in their pulling afterwards too

[hasty pumice]

Tbf I use pots, my self heal often and swap to Def stance if needed

[pearl wind]

did feel sweet to be the hero for a sec

[hasty pumice]

I'm really easy to heal

[hasty pumice]

Tbf if you pug and always just blame others, you'll hard ruin the fun, better to just focus on your shit

[pearl wind]

i'll have to keep in mind when running with groups without brez, if the tank goes down be ready to dbts->taunt->cable instantly

[hasty pumice]

It's funny though if others lash out

[lean wraith]

is anyone here playing colossus during st raid fights?

[elder light]

how hard is arms to play in comparison to fury

[balmy kindle]

Saved tons of runs like this , sometimes you still get zapped by magical attacks though

[pearl wind]

always reflect when doing this and hope its only 1

i had to do it on the spark guys before last boss of floodgate

they do a targeted spell too

but since there's 2 of em you can get insta clapped

[rain cipher]

Just position yourself properly when sending Cleve and all the best with your Demolish.

[floral ledge]

priory 10

[pearl wind]

[candid pecan]

[pearl wind]

show that fury war whos boss

[hasty pumice]

Guessing the fury doesn't have 4p

[halcyon valve]

[ivory harbor]

Hi fellow Arms warrior, for our sudden death procs is it the same as previous tier?

was busy with work and did not keep myself up to date

[thick kelp]

yes

[ivory harbor]

okay thank you sir

[stone yarrow]

Is Arms back on the menu boys?

[weak wave]

Which spec?

[floral ledge]

colossus

[grave mulch]

na

[halcyon valve]

Arms is so back

[blissful tree]

raidleader just texted me a picture with old class buffs from 2024. i was jumping up and down an then he said "naaa it's a joke"....brooooo

[ionic reef]

arms feels like its doing so much damage why are people rating it low on tier lists?

[granite coral]

Because they are dumb dumb poo poo heads

Respectfully

[wintry plover]

Hey fellow warriors, I tend to follow hekili for doing damage in m+ (10-12 keys) , but are a bit off the expectation in DM , do you have guys some tweaks / customized setting to have hekili more relevant, or it's all based on CDs optimization and stats gearing ?

[vale gorge]

and track the end of Sweeping strike debuff to make big Cleave

[grim hull]

yo

any1 got 4p aura tracker

[glacial rapids]

Just send skullsplitter after demolish.

[shadow ibex]

Don't really need to track 4pc. Just keep ms on cd really

50/50 gonna crit or you dont

[supple mountain]

Does Execute take prio in execute range

or do we still mantain our prio list?

[candid pecan]

you should have a weakaura that tracks a buff, assuming you use Elvui, if not you can find the spell ID through wowhead https://www.wowhead.com/spell=1239153/deeper-wounds in this case 1239153

so just duplicate the weakaura that tracks a buff, change trigger to 1239153 and thats that

[thick kelp]

or just dont bloat your UI by tracking useless buffs

[candid pecan]

true

[fresh spire]

It is something that is pretty meaningless to track as you don't press buttons any differently if you proc

non gameplay enhancing etc

[candid pecan]

I track it, so I can MALD when 3 mortal strikes back to back dont crit on ST boss

even tho I have around 40% crit chance

[shadow ibex]

Just. Crit. Everything.

[candid pecan]

3 keys left for 14 resil

these will be rough on 14 with pugs, maybe not Dawn

[oblique lodge]

I feel u but for 13 res , only priory and echo left

[full furnace]

I'm having a ton of fun

[candid pecan]

HOA

[fleet vortex]

Hello.

I have weird bug. Executioner's precision talent does not work for me.

It simply does not buff my MS. Not showing the buff itself, not affecting MS damage on tooltip (but overpower does).

Anyone having same issue?

[thick kelp]

its a debuff

on your target

[fleet vortex]

why its in WA as a buff then O_o

[candid pecan]

omg... joined a +14 Dawn, killed first 2 packs, retpala aggored and died , then 4 of us flew to left ship, tank went on opposite ship... full wipe, insults were exchanged, abandon

we go again

[brisk parcel]

guys are we swritching back to arms or is fury still better

[candid pecan]

from what I've seen (and what makes sense) fury is better in Dawnbreaker/Streets

and arms is better on the other 6

but depends on what your group needs, more AOE or more ST

[full furnace]

we never switched to fury to begin with, we go down with the ship here

[candid pecan]

both specs are good

[brisk parcel]

very cool - never thought about it that way

[full furnace]

but jokes aside, colossus arms does more aoe damage but hits like a wet noodle on st, thane fury is a little behind on aoe but way ahead on st so for keys above 10 a bit of both is better than being ultra specialized

[spiral coral]

wtf

[rapid dawn]

Would it be worth learning Arms if I've been a fury main for a while?

[silent saddle]

does running Dreadnaught in keys put Overpower prio above MS in big pulls or nah?

[shadow ibex]

Ms still gives a ton of cdr

[soft gust]

And maintains 4pc proc

Is sks worth for higher keys? Ive just been running dn but im debating if the prio damage is worth the drop in aoe

[boreal quartz]

You need the /FF weakaura

League mindset

Ff15 it

[latent moss]

yes

especially with arterial bleeds

which u should be playing over oam

[soft gust]

Yeah ive already swapped to AB and warlords, but dope thanks!

[languid junco]

does anyone have a good rend tracker?

and for arms veterans out there, is it really worth to keep rend on big packs like first one of priory

[olive nest]

Planning to fool around with arms in weekly’s this reset, any major notable gameplay changes from s2?

Probably sks after demolish but what else?

Reading the wowhead prio it seems like it plays exactly the same except you throw sks into the mix lol

[full furnace]

just reapply it with clap every once in a while

[spring rune]

For that pull I end up doing it shortly after the SKS becaue its about to run out on that target cause of the speed up

[olive nest]

Could probably just toss a random TC out there when both ms/cleave are on cd and you only have 1 charge of OP

Assuming you need to spread more rends

[shadow ibex]

Just 2/2 bb and SoA and be gucci

Never worry about it running out ever

[leaden anchor]

How many rends are you guys actually spreading on big pulls? Still used to throwing 1 out on opener and maybe fitting another 1 or 2 in later

[thick kelp]

as long as there is targets to rend

[leaden anchor]

Higher prio this season right?

[languid junco]

yah, i fill like rend is not that important with more than 5 targets

[olive nest]

Bleeds do the pump though

Probably worth to look for rending any targets in the pull that do not die in 10 seconds

[shadow ibex]

Im like 99% sure sweep and tc still bugged

Still fuck sks

[olive nest]

Is it still a 🤫 tc sweep tech moment

[spiral coral]

Worth learning all warr specs if you play warrior imo

[shadow ibex]

I been talking about it here since ever

P sure was like it in df

[olive nest]

Sick tech

[shadow ibex]

If they not gonna fix it ima eat off it

[soft gust]

Does it still work?

Nvm reading comprehension

[shadow ibex]

It was never consistent

But I've definitely gotten more than 5 applications this week

[soft gust]

Do you think its worth sending SS before TC on pulls or nah

[silent saddle]

What's the tech? Tried to read above but couldn't figure it out by context

Still learning arms btw so some acronyms are unfamiliar to me still

[glacial rapids]

Bro, why are you running so many HOA? Hopefully not for Idol it isn't THAT good.

[soft gust]

Prob cursed stone idol

[full furnace]

i like having choices in my trinkets

[livid cloak]

Cursed idol, at least on blood mallet, is miles better than anything else for keys

I know blood mallet needs to be taken with a big grain of salt, but it seems to be much better than pacemaker, sacbrood, etc

[shadow ibex]

If ur not also tr wb ravager and such losing a lot of sweep globals

But usually if ur sweeping before tclap that usually means also doing it before all those

Idk cd maximize is a lil sweaty for me some days

[heavy patio]

Run in and zug is life

[soft gust]

Idol sims way higher than any other trinket for me so Ive also thrown quite a few runs at HoA

Praying for myth idol in vault lol

Running signet rn and it not lining up with avatar sucks

[olive nest]

Just that while sweep is active thunderclap will rend more than 5 targets which is supposedly unintended but it happens sometimes

[livid cloak]

My lfr astral antenna was better than hero signet, sacbrood, and soleah

I was surprised

[silent saddle]

Oooh yeah that'd be awesome. I meant to ask that, is the rend from TC smart? If I clap twice in 10 mobs will they all get Rend?

[olive nest]

I don’t believe so that would be too convenient for blizzards taste

[silent saddle]

Oh that's a shame. So I want to prio a few tc claps in big packs early on as I'm blasting

[fresh spire]

its super random how the clap/sweep works, sometimes hits different targets, sometimes applies rend twice to same target for longer duration

[shadow ibex]

Just send one out if it applies 10 great

If not keep gaming

[vast helm]

https://tenor.com/view/armswarrior-warrior-warriorwow-armswow-armswarriorwow-gif-27099127

[thick kelp]

Play colossus with FBV for free 100 parses on healing

[cunning comet]

hi

gartz on the 100 parse

[thick kelp]

Thanks rowDade

[cunning comet]

not my name

Joyeux Noël

[shadow ibex]

I had a 4.5mil fbv tick at some point

Idk how

85% of a bleed for 4.5 mil

Shudder to think of what the bleed did

Why does English have shutter and shudder

This dumb language

[void bay]

What is your native language?

[cunning comet]

ALBANIAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN 🇦🇱 🇦🇱 🇦🇱 🇦🇱 🇦🇱 🇦🇱 🇦🇱 🇦🇱 🇦🇱 🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅 🦅 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆

[shadow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/sfm-soldier-tf2-meme-american-gif-24728385

[hard rock]

wait arms is back? what did i miss

[hasty pumice]

finally

[pearl wind]

its viable but with a 99 parse you will match meta specs with blue parses

is the tldr

[void bay]

ah that explains a lot!

[hard rock]

yeah was just thinking in relation to fury in m+

[pearl wind]

probably the same story for fury tbh

but idk

[hard rock]

for sure yeah but im playing warr either way

[pearl wind]

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/us/proudmoore/vilorcasdra?zone=45

im pushin, taking a break today though

[spiral coral]

Where the 100 at

[pearl wind]

tryin

need the right tank

i need a hero

and an improbable sequence of MS/Cleave resets

and replacements for champion gear probably

also cursed stone idol

which i haven't seen drop once for anyone in the party

[slow saddle]

My war 0 for 15 attempts

Dk 1 attempt get traded it

[spiral coral]

I feel like my alt hunter gets everything and every roll and my main warrior get shit

[shadow ibex]

I saw 3 get traded to ret

1 looted by ret dealing 2mil overall

Finally looted my own in a run i hard carried

[slow saddle]

No worries, my dk went into hc raid proceeded to loose every roll for tier

[spiral coral]

Kinda feel like a piece of shit rolling on tier pieces on my alts

But 🤷‍♂️ pugs are pugs

[slow saddle]

Nah fam

U spending time

U gettin gear

[hasty pumice]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-know-let-me-know-dog-meme-let-me-know-dog-dog-holding-laugh-dog-speed-gif-15789708427721573726