arms

[near ice]

its like 3.3-3.5 mil on avg

[slow saddle]

Thane is same speed as col

[near ice]

still spammy

[slow saddle]

Y coz arms isnt?

[near ice]

why mad bud

[slow saddle]

Ms/op/cleave vs clap + bt

[near ice]

its a vibe

thats all im saying

[slow saddle]

Its a trope

[shadow ibex]

I just pull shit in to boss and pretend my st is good

[forest perch]

Make ToM viable plz

[slow saddle]

Arm doesnt have dead gcds or is particularly slow

[forest perch]

Cause we got slam

[near ice]

spamming whirlwind feels so bad

[slow saddle]

Tom is dead

[near ice]

that button sucks

[slow saddle]

But i dont as fury?

U clap?

[forest perch]

ToM feels fun to play to try to spend rage

[near ice]

every 3 gcd

its not fun

if rampage proc ww

that would be a vibe

[slow saddle]

Ok are u high?

[near ice]

buddy

im going somewhere else

gn

[slow saddle]

Its 4

[near ice]

troll

[latent moss]

pressing tc

for cleaving

[slow saddle]

And u dont ww

[latent moss]

is so rare for thaen

thane*

u just tb anyway

[slow saddle]

Ikr

[latent moss]

cause it does damage

[forest perch]

I miss 4pc execute clap

[slow saddle]

tb fucks its awesome

[near ice]

go to the fury channel

furry*

[slow saddle]

I play both usually prefer arms

But playing thane u dont ww

And thane does very well atm

[forest perch]

Fury and arms are both fun, just based on preference

[slow saddle]

Col is basicly a worse ret

Nah man col is horrid atm

No ways around it

[forest perch]

We could be like ret and become cry babies

[latent moss]

nah i wouldnt say horrid

its just annoying

10 hour opener

colossal might falling off

[slow saddle]

The opener is horrid

[latent moss]

having to stack it to 10 on opener etc

sks

[slow saddle]

Rest is just annoying

[latent moss]

blood and thunder being capped and no smart apply

[slow saddle]

Or u can just press clap as fury

[latent moss]

being unlucky with tactician just turns ur gameplay into slam spam

[slow saddle]

And aoe is goin on

[latent moss]

which is ngl the worst feeling button ive ever pressed

[slow saddle]

I mean tbh slam isnt to bad

Its more arms as a spec where its modifiers on modifiers

Anythin "naked" feels bad

[pearl wind]

born to mortal strike, forced to press slam

[shadow ibex]

I hate our 4pc

I wish colossus had as fun as 4pc as Thane

[slow saddle]

Also remove juggernaut

[shadow ibex]

Thane is probably the best 4pc this class has ever seen imo

[slow saddle]

Put fstility tjere

[shadow ibex]

Ever

[hot current]

yes

[latent moss]

or like slayer 2p

[shadow ibex]

Maybe the arms 4pc from df s1 lol

[slow saddle]

100%

Nah

It was meme worthy

[shadow ibex]

But Thane tier is easily one of the best tier sets blizzard ever made

[forest perch]

Juggernaut should be for all damage instead of execute, then it feels good

[shadow ibex]

It's so good I hope they bring it back as a talent

[slow saddle]

No

[latent moss]

so now not a single spell does damage

until u stack jugg

[slow saddle]

Juggernaut delete

[shadow ibex]

Jug should just not fall off in combat

[forest perch]

Its already happening anyways

[latent moss]

if u want to keep jugg

[shadow ibex]

If they want us to keep it cuz they like it

[latent moss]

make it short duration high amp low stacks

so u stack it fast

[shadow ibex]

They need to make it not fall in combat

[latent moss]

or just make it not fall off in combat

[forest perch]

Or maybe longer duration

[shadow ibex]

I think they like 15 stack buff

[slow saddle]

Hmm nah not fall off

[shadow ibex]

Idk why

But just make it not fade

[slow saddle]

Look at bosses here

Nexus dide

Stacks fall off

Dimensious kek gl gettin stacks

[latent moss]

dimensius is so ass

for arms

stacks fall off p1 p2 p3

xddddddddd

[shadow ibex]

Haven't done an arms pull yet

[slow saddle]

Like to many scenarios fucks us on bosses

[shadow ibex]

I will tn

[slow saddle]

So remove it

[shadow ibex]

Oh wait yea we did

Ider

[forest perch]

Fatality either needs reworked or moved to a higher slot

That one feels so pointless in many fights

😭

[slow saddle]

Mby remove juggernaur

Place fatility there

Buff norm exe

[forest perch]

Or combine them into one talent

[shadow ibex]

Ima try fatal in m+ when I get off work

[hot current]

colo should have shadowlands conduit where you mortal strike has a chance to hit for the 2nd time, and another thing that would also suit colo is enduring blow and get some extra time with colossus smash so your single target doesnt feel bad in m+ (kinda wierd that colossus are literally has nothing in its tree that referes to abillity called colossus smash)

[forest perch]

Good luck

[shadow ibex]

We've asked for colossus smash on demolish

[latent moss]

aoe sks :mhm:

[forest perch]

This

[shadow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-why-shouldnt-i-lotr-bilbo-bilbo-why-shouldnt-i-why-shouldnt-i-lord-of-the-rings-gif-17096479

It's all feel anyway

[forest perch]

Sks could like a single cast off gcd where next mortal strike or cleave makes it all bleed

[shadow ibex]

Tuning is just a number

[latent moss]

feel is what matters

once u get a good breakdown

just aurabuff

[shadow ibex]

Yup

[forest perch]

Playstyle and theme needs to feels good too

[shadow ibex]

We still looking for good gameplay

Let alone breakdown

Kaching

Unrelated

[sturdy hearth]

dem demolishes on soulbinder mythic

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-duck-gif-1363576254939741235

fury bros cant enjoy dem crits

[candid pecan]

mythic soulbinder

[sturdy hearth]

Holy

sadly we killed before the last add respawn

[thick kelp]

I smell some

avatar holding here

[candid pecan]

nope

sent on boss + 2 adds

and then regular demo on 8-10 targets

[sturdy hearth]

70M highest demo

[shadow ibex]

Hmm I was gonna fury

But nvm

[minor gust]

Now post boss dam

[sturdy hearth]

u have cocklossus + demo on each add spawn

[minor gust]

[shadow ibex]

I think i have a gun to my head to fury forge

Raid lean openly asked how good is fury on forge mid raid

And im like yeaaaaaaaaaa

[minor gust]

Thane on forge is juicy

[shadow ibex]

Yea i plan to have a blast

[slow saddle]

Big clappa

[shadow ibex]

No pun intended

[pearl wind]

[shadow ibex]

Hopefully loot dying world tonight

[minor gust]

Like I said I am on my arms vacation only fury pad for me in mythic

[shadow ibex]

After my dumbass passed on nm antenne

[minor gust]

No arms colossus pad for me

[shadow ibex]

I'll play arms on loom plexi maybe soul

But definitely Thane forge since thats actual hard fight

[minor gust]

It will see more nerfs most likely

[minor gust]

Show boss dam tho I'm curious

[latent moss]

3% nerf

incoming

why are u not sandbagging

[pearl wind]

[candid pecan]

[minor gust]

Holy you're all a bunch of non ethical padders

My man

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[sturdy hearth]

Based

[candid pecan]

played with SKS

[sturdy hearth]

actually 5head with 4P cocklossus

[shadow ibex]

I put sks where my slam bind was

[minor gust]

SKS replaces my storm bolt bind RIP lil guy

[sturdy hearth]

I'm mentally damaged by mop classic, I want to press slam way too much

[shadow ibex]

My bolt is like ctrl middle click

I can't use that for sks ill never remember

Honestly just need demolish to become colossus smash so we can get that debuff on it

[minor gust]

CS shattered defense gameplay but

[dim basalt]

Is the monk afk or what

[minor gust]

Shattered D works with demolish too

[candid pecan]

i'm not sure

progging loomithar as arms....

jugg stacks drop here and there.. atleast i can exe cleave off the webs

maybe the hidden tech is to just send SD on CD

to get more and more slayer strikes

[pearl wind]

i was thinking if i played sks id macro it into slam so if sks isnt available it falls back to slam

[shadow ibex]

Don't macro stuff to stuff

Just git good and remember to use them

I say that as someone who forgets to use sks 99%

[sturdy hearth]

somehow I deal less as Fury compared to arms

might be an achievement

[candid pecan]

some pulls ARE INSANE

managing to keep 15 stacks

[pearl wind]

jugg jugg

[candid pecan]

other pulls

[sturdy hearth]

I hope they'll rework spear tree branch, the last row of talent is so dogshit for ST its actually crazy

[shadow ibex]

Im ok with the stat nodes in class tree

But in the spec tree fuck no

Wild strikes probably a bit too good still

[vast helm]

https://tenor.com/view/dbd-daima-dbz-dbs-db-gif-4847201313355668427

[spiral coral]

https://tenor.com/view/broly-dbz-dbs-goku-dragon-ball-z-gif-12851822

[weak wave]

With this in M+ how is the Cleave/MS/Exe/OP prio?

in trash

Execute and MS only if there is a prio target?

[shadow ibex]

what could i drop for fatal

why is deft 2/2

[weak wave]

deft?

[shadow ibex]

the 2/2 node gating battlelord

tryin to find a colo build where i can take fatal

but impossible with sks + bb

[weak wave]

ah. thought you were answering me

[shadow ibex]

i think slayer prios opportunist in aoe still

and assume cleave doesnt take prio until 3? since you need 3 targets for the proc chance

reap procs i mean

[weak wave]

yeah but with the 4p it feels weired not pressing Exe and OP in aoe pulls

[shadow ibex]

i think u follow kaching for exe

cuz bladestorm CDR is aoe

[weak wave]

hmm yes

[shadow ibex]

i havent done one but just would assume probably a lot like ST

follow oppor resets cuz it affects DN

cleave at 3+ for reap proc send SD with kaching to get BS back faster

[weak wave]

yeah makes sense

[icy mulch]

Aren't most players?"

[halcyon valve]

That reminds me i need to test out how big of a demolish crit i can get with spear

[candid pecan]

NOOO

raid ended.... dies tuesday fucking SPOODER

[halcyon valve]

[candid pecan]

15.4M mortal strike

[shadow ibex]

gonna lose the bleed amp from tr but would def be biggest possible hit

[minor gust]

Hey man I'm a good boy arms player it's full ST or nothin

[candid pecan]

ok loom is whatever, is there colossus tech on Araz mythic?

[shadow ibex]

i think its just thane angle

[candid pecan]

guess not, guess we thunderblast

[shadow ibex]

its a lot of 5t

[spiral coral]

bro this campaign

about

fucking bees

again

whats up with wow

[sturdy hearth]

nah bro, you're a trailblazer, stay on the Arms path

[spiral coral]

and bees

[shadow ibex]

i think anyone playing warrior honestly probably afraid to be benched

to risk playing arms week 2

lol

[candid pecan]

not wrong

[halcyon valve]

Send it

Play arms

You know you want to

[latent moss]

find it

tbf i think aagard said that fight is a joke anyway

adds die in no time

[halcyon valve]

Convince your guildies to go st so you can pad

[icy mulch]

[smoky kayak]

post-nerf, Slayer is just as good/better unless you really need add dam

[smoky kayak]

Condemn

[smoky kayak]

just wait till your group demands you swap for every web cause your ranged cba to focus

love walking out of melee and resetting Frenzy every 20s

[gusty nymph]

https://i.redd.it/2k8onn1uew161.gif

[icy mulch]

Yeah, there are a lot of fights that just seem to say "fuck yo buffs/talents."

[wicked warren]

let's go bois, hero stone idol

We're so back

[astral yarrow]

thane is kinda greifing bossdam if you arent sending on CD

Slayer is the ethical choice

as thane you are incentivized to hold for first adds which is sort of cringe

[heavy patio]

I like spear, it gives me the illusion that i'm useful.

[smoky kayak]

Yeah, pre nerf you could make a better argument for it, but post nerf the fight should be a lot shorter and doesn't really warrant the extra add dam

[astral yarrow]

we made p2 at 7% boss hp, but we had issues with pylon damage

we had a lot of cleave on echo + servant on pylons so the lineup for thane kinda banged

[rapid bronze]

missing raid this week, have 2 pc and 1 catalyst charge. Should I bite the bullet and take the champion tier and catalyze a 4th piece for 4pc?

[fossil thistle]

Myth slot imo

You can farm M+ or delves for a hero piece

[rare kite]

nahh, take something more longterm

[fossil thistle]

^
Exactly. Chest and gloves won’t be replaced

[rapid bronze]

and wait another week for 4pc? isn't it a huge upgrade?

[fossil thistle]

Huge upgrade when 99 parse is still at the bottom

🤷‍♂️

[rapid bronze]

heh true

[fossil thistle]

First few weeks obviously maximizing gear is crucial. But myth slots won’t get replaced

Only way I wouldn’t have taken myth is if I got 3 bracers 🤣

[wicked warren]

Also next week is another catalyst charge

[fossil thistle]

Mhm. Mhm.
LFR chances at tokens too, and I pugged 8/8N on an alt, it took us 7 pulls to get dimensius

[twin hazel]

Chaotic Nethergate a good trinket?

[sacred zodiac]

i have never heard of chaotic nethergate

[latent moss]

i think its some tank trinket

or some shitass trinket

[twin hazel]

no it dmg

[latent moss]

it does some aoe dmg and then heals or something

[shadow ibex]

tank dam trinket i think

[twin hazel]

just got a hero lvl out a delve

[sacred zodiac]

ye delve trinkets are not it this season

[latent moss]

+1,255 Mastery
Use: Release the Nethergate, flooding your location with corrupted mana dealing 187,998 damage every 1 sec to enemies inside for 10 sec and Heal for 27,416 per target hit up to 8 targets.

ye this trinket is shit

[shadow ibex]

beacon from beyond we have at home

i guess the projector is sort of this tier beacon

just no mast

[twin hazel]

mine says 439,940 every second

[lost flare]

guys do we get 1 more catalyst charge next week?

[shadow ibex]

yea it does 440k at 694

over 10 seconds about 40 mil dmg

not really super impressive

[twin hazel]

.....

[shadow ibex]

other dmg trinkets deal more

[sacred zodiac]

any time a trinket has the word heal in it you know its gonna be pure garbage

[sacred zodiac]

400.000*10 = 40.000.000

[shadow ibex]

idol slams for 1.2 mil per target hit + has a ton of crit and mains stat

[shadow ibex]

i thought it was 4.4 my b

[sacred zodiac]

when is the last time you did an antorus mog run

[twin hazel]

i have a cursed idol in vault but its veteran lvl

[shadow ibex]

never

u acn just farm idol at hero level

no reason to take veteren in a vault

[twin hazel]

thats why its still there

[lofty pulsar]

why is my log and my details dps different

the log is missing like 900k dps lol

cause we died probably?

[minor gust]

what fight

[lofty pulsar]

priory

[minor gust]

oh M+ log

[cosmic garden]

mog does more damage?

tmog*

[latent moss]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1408215589968937161/image.png?ex=68a8ee78&is=68a79cf8&hm=67a9c17569d800322f1e1ba6d17597a6f6a20a30401a79350ef52c6fb760eb5c&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1170378356588552214/1406658337923141673/image.png?ex=68a88a2a&is=68a738aa&hm=7f83a7b2c35cea59a0c009c646d4f8f5ce47685c56410ab595efcefaaec335f2&

[shadow ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/mundo-feliz-onetreehsll-world-if-gif-14071235670792471304

[minor gust]

https://i.imgflip.com/a389n4.gif

[lofty pulsar]

maybe it didnt track the lightsmith buff stuff

[latent moss]

"ret nerfed by 3%"

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1170378356588552214/1406658337923141673/image.png?ex=68a88a2a&is=68a738aa&hm=7f83a7b2c35cea59a0c009c646d4f8f5ce47685c56410ab595efcefaaec335f2&

[pearl wind]

[glacial rapids]

[spiral coral]

I would want to start a coalition amongst other discords to ban Pallys but they are people.

I guess.

[nova marsh]

na

The only people who play ret are bots

[balmy kindle]

Lmao I like how it's directed to rets only

[sonic merlin]

https://prnt.sc/2tprLcr3fHU7

43mil crit on big momma

[shrewd adder]

deserved

[lofty pulsar]

My ilvl parses are rlly good but my overall parses are trash. Just how super geared are you people Jesus Christ

[balmy kindle]

Do note arms raid parses can be a little rng and dependant on jug stacks

[nova marsh]

Just a lil

[celest forge]

Aww man I'm bad at arms again 🙁 wowanalyzer is yelling at me to fix... everything, basically

Glad they buffed it though

[shadow ibex]

opportunist is really important

that's probably one thing that might not be super obvious if you didnt read a guide

[celest forge]

I read the wowhead rotation guide but I think I need more time at the dummy

Missed a bunch of good executes and a third of both my overpowers and mortal strikes

[minor gust]

Dont take M+ parses seriously. Their not like raid parsing

[crisp remnant]

just came back to game not long ago i'm guessing fury is better than arms atm? 🙁

[minor gust]

in raid yeah

[celest forge]

Arms is fine now

[minor gust]

M+ their pretty competitve now

[celest forge]

6m in keys, 3.5m+ in raid

It's no rogue, but it's fine.

[grave mulch]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/spend-10-more-points-across-three-trees-and-new-talents-in-midnight-378287?utm_source=discord-webhook more points? more dissapointment???

[minor gust]

yeah more points for our spec tree rework thats bound to come

[crisp remnant]

i'm an arms fanboy

[grave mulch]

okay

[minor gust]

play whats fun to you

what better doesnt matter

[grave mulch]

12.0 it needs to come

[spiral coral]

Arms is better

[minor gust]

[minor gust]

if your group needs an aoe bringer colossus it up and vibe

[zealous raptor]

Hi, im new to warrior/arms, decided to go dps this expac coming from healers.. trying to learn m+, just did a +2 key at ilvl 694 and only pulled 2.75m dps overall.. aer there any good vids or guides?

[icy mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/how-do-we-tell-him-mr-krabs-spongebob-meme-spongebob-meme-gif-24063814

[zealous raptor]

the group said theyre in a bad state, but just wondering if i can make the most of this turd

[icy mulch]

If you're serious, I guess Critcake or Bizentein make videos. MadOx has a little guide video.

You can make it work, but it will be pushing a square wheel up hill.

[minor gust]

nah its not that bad realistically anymore but community preception will def make it feel that way

[icy mulch]

Yeah

[zealous raptor]

ive seen other arms at 2500 this season, so i know its doable

[minor gust]

because currently the community thinks its the worst spec in the game

[icy mulch]

It just doesn't fit into any regular comp except phys comp.

[zealous raptor]

🙏🏼

[icy mulch]

WoWhead will be your best friend though, that has all the info you'll need.

[balmy kindle]

We need crez or lust

[minor gust]

[icy mulch]

Lust would fit thematically. combat rez 🤷‍♀️
Even if we had access to disrupting shout in all specs would go a long way.

[balmy kindle]

It's lore friendly as well

[icy mulch]

I love how the RWF comp is 3 ele sham and 2 dev evokers.

[nova marsh]

Dragons ruined wow

Don't @ me

[rapid bronze]

bis key comp

[hollow wave]

What about something very distinct that only warrior have?

[nova marsh]

Blizz hates us 🙂

[teal fossil]

like what

and dont say skull banner

because that just becomes a math question

[pearl wind]

they should change rallying shout to give everyone a bonused second wind that's just a huge hot

[smoky kayak]

off-GCD utility Spear!

put it where Int Shout is, put Int Shout where Cacophonous Roar is; ez-pz

or put it where Double Time is and just give us that talent for free - the amount of shit other classes get passively is comparatively wild

[minor gust]

Demolish crit go boom

[lofty pulsar]

so after i demolish

its use the mortal strike then skull splitter right?

or is it the ohter way around

[minor gust]

MS then SKS

MS has higher prio and in that situ anyway ur getting the bleed amp buff from ur next MS after demo if u dont already have it up

[nova marsh]

Creamy

[minor gust]

im a lil rusty but I atleast beat the FDK

[teal fossil]

if i had time i would dig through the hardest single hit in a sim

in the simulationcraft site

[minor gust]

Wouldnt beat this cuz this was a big mama dmg amp all cds crit

[balmy kindle]

Now we just need another 5% buff

[pearl wind]

[hollow wave]

Has anyone tried slayer in m+?

[balmy kindle]

The no rend build is pretty good for boss damage whilst still doing good aoe

[pearl wind]

yeah i play no rend slayer in m+

[boreal quartz]

5 Big goons

[wicked oak]

A loss in AOE for me in Slayer... Too bad, I prefer it...

[thick kelp]

you can also try the yes rend slayer in keys

It has relatively good performance

https://www.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warrior/arms/slayer/DAOBUVFREQhYRIpRUBAOVVEVURVFQkVQFQCEEEFVVUBV

[mental horizon]

Whats more m+ damage? Arms or fury

[minor gust]

Thank you Phill I will treasure them forever

[void bay]

That reminds me of what my friend Nyt always says

[empty sluice]

More storm of swords talents weee

[boreal quartz]

There's this grp of ppl on insta that die the 5 big goons thing

The im not a prevert, but guy

And some random i dont know

[balmy kindle]

Hey it could be increase ignore pain effectiveness by 10 %

[empty sluice]

I hope so

[balmy kindle]

Or storm bolt does 10% more damage

[empty sluice]

Or bladestorm spins 2s longer

[balmy kindle]

Must add ( does not increase overall damage )

[empty sluice]

Or increase slam dmg by 5%, not 10 so its not that strong

And add another ms/execute modifier

[still fox]

littel question, Cursed Stone idol is the best one with pacemaker (or ara kara) from M+? but the cast 1sec from idol is this a problem? or can i bind with avatar?

[empty sluice]

Use it before burst

[minor gust]

make sure to hit mobs with it

[empty sluice]

Might work with ava if u stand still idk

[minor gust]

dont use it not hitting something

[still fox]

but its the trinket to go for arms yea? when i not raiding

[minor gust]

I mean sim is always gonna be your best answer but yeah its a good trinket

[empty sluice]

You will be fine with ara+pacemaker if u dont wanna on use

[still fox]

ok ^^ i test it when i loot anything xD

[balmy kindle]

Still farming idol

[dry canopy]

i wont lie i like arms better than fury rn.

feels burstier. and easier to maintain than fishing for TB

[halcyon valve]

[minor gust]

you certainly will have a better time overall farming with colossus right now

If only colossus set up wasnt so long

[balmy kindle]

What's not to like hitting a 20m crit demo

[wet magnet]

decided to make a warrior for the first time and main it this season and arms has been a delight, honestly

[minor gust]

nothin like seeing a 64m crit demo

[balmy kindle]

dmg Amps are good

[halcyon valve]

[minor gust]

[wet magnet]

every time MS/Cleave resets 4-5 times it a row, it hits

[balmy kindle]

Once you get high enough crit % it's not uncommon to get 2 + demolishes in a pack at higher keys

[wet magnet]

🙏

[dry canopy]

to set up stacks?

[minor gust]

yeah a no stack opener

[weak wave]

Here’s how the talent points will be distributed:
3 points for the class tree, although no new talents will be added there.
3 points for Hero talents, which will introduce a brand-new talent line.
4 points for the specialization tree, where the new “apex” talents will appear. Of these:
2 will enhance existing abilities
1 will modify an ability entirely

Nice!

[sharp wyvern]

The only thing we can do is

[blissful tree]

1 will modify … aka condemn? ;)

[balmy kindle]

Anyhow we are stuck with slayer and colosuss

[smoky kayak]

just to clarify, because a lot of people have been confused by this

• "no new talents will be added there" does not mean talent trees won't necessarily be changed/reworked
• it just means that they're not universally adding a new row of talents to every class

I'm also fairly certain they're going to break up those 3 points into the existing talent gates (e.g. you'll have to spend 8->9 points in the first three rows, 20->21 points before progressing to the eighth row, and have 1 more talent point to spend in the bottom four rows)

[viral locust]

Enhanced juggernaut - does 50% more damage but 25% less likely to give a random stack and lose all stacks

[balmy kindle]

Rng on top of rng

[dim basalt]

I can totally see them adding a jugg talent that makes you lose only 1 stack when it runs out

[balmy kindle]

just wish they would get rid of juggernaut, having dmg locked behind a 15 cast feels really bad

[pearl wind]

for martial prowess is it best to always go for 2 stacks or just send cleave/ms whenever? better to not delay a MS/cleave cast right? especially if you have exhilarating blows

[thick kelp]

dont delay

[pearl wind]

also battlelord

[balmy kindle]

With BL also just send

The more or you do the merrier

[pearl wind]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-nicholson-jack-nicholson-yes-yes-nod-head-nod-gif-17444176260167585294

[balmy kindle]

Can't wait to test out arterial bleed and sks build next week tho

[icy mulch]

Apex talents? Fuck, our capstone talents are shit so what is an Apex one gonna look like?

[slow saddle]

2% crit chance

on demolish

[balmy kindle]

10 % effectiveness on ignore pain

[slow saddle]

5% chance to proc reap

when u slam

[hasty pumice]

Peak

[balmy kindle]

Why reap, just let it proc hamstring

Reap is too strong

[pearl wind]

[fossil root]

Ayyy lmao

https://tenor.com/view/aliens-dancing-party-ayy-gif-11306175

[slow saddle]

Last boss lowkey decent timer on first platform as arms

i gotta meme as arms 100%

[slow saddle]

When u slam execute key

[fresh spire]

Condemn

[vast glacier]

I Hope, they fix the Buggy Interaction between SD and AM

[fresh spire]

I'd kill for prots 3 target execute

[vast glacier]

3 targets and 5 with SS ?

[slow saddle]

Just delete juggernaut addin by subtraction

[dim basalt]

3 target exe + make jugg stack per exe hit instead of cast

the dream

[fresh spire]

Hoping just gets shot

[dim basalt]

Well yeah but whats the chance of that going to happen

[slow saddle]

How much uptime does Sim think jastor has ?

[sacred zodiac]

smth like 96% iirc

91% in this random 5 target sim i had yday

(this is fury sim yourself for arms)

[candid pecan]

OKAY happy to be a part of the 40 arms wars

[dim basalt]

[candid pecan]

we private log so maybe not..

[fossil root]

No arms rework in MID. Time to disperse.

https://tenor.com/view/away-disperse-nothing-to-see-gif-6344653744925465498

[halcyon valve]

[tranquil mist]

in execute phase do u spam exe or exe-exe-op-mortal repeat?

[dim basalt]

Neither

op proc (opportunist) > 2x exe for EP > MS

[tranquil mist]

cool cool

[thorny plover]

Do you think an Arms rework is possible in this economy?

[sharp wyvern]

In midnight

[icy mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-totally-legit-zoey-kpop-demon-hunters-it's-the-real-deal-netflix-gif-8936746205270202753

[fresh spire]

Gotta watch jastors

Some pulls it never procs. Others 85%+

Something weird with it

[icy mulch]

Yeah, it's bugging out. Had dungeons where it was uptime of 60-65% and others where it's 5%

[dim basalt]

Checking my raid logs right now

50% on 2nd boss

99.98% on hunters

lol

No proc at all on Fractillus

What the fuck

[thorny plover]

I mean... Thats still like 50% uptime. So it works.

[viral locust]

Swapped it out the other day after it proc in 2 out of 8 raid fights lol

Guildies similar proc rate not proc at all or majority of fights 60% etc.

[astral yarrow]

co warrior had 0.03 sec uptime on it on soulbinder reclear this week xd

pala healer never had it proc along with 2-3 more people

[dim basalt]

Our hunter didnt have it proc at all on 2 bosses

[azure karma]

i deleted it after a 3,5 hour raid with 2 proccs

only had heroic version

[fresh spire]

I've been tempted to just replace it with a 701 just because there is 0 rng on it bugging out

[sacred zodiac]

just get the weakaura woke man

[fresh spire]

Weak aura? Huh

Someone made a weak aura to tell when it's bugged?

[sacred zodiac]

theres a weakaura that tells you when jastor is broken

[fresh spire]

Bruh that's fucking funny

[astral yarrow]

muh 15k sim dps tho

[sacred zodiac]

rwf was using it during undermine prog

[fresh spire]

[sacred zodiac]

then they fixed it

then it kaboomed

[fresh spire]

Nerf it

Feels stupid using old gear anyway

[sacred zodiac]

https://wago.io/FsPzBCPYM

[astral yarrow]

"have people experienced jastor not proc"
"new patch feature"

[sacred zodiac]

har folk oplevet jastor ikke procce

[astral yarrow]

bro lincc flamed me a couple of days ago for posting a danglish disc screenshot

so i figured i'd translate when context wasnt entirely clear

[sacred zodiac]

just flame him back for buying title keys every season or

[astral yarrow]

meme minigame

[fresh spire]

Real

I understand it (I dont)

[thick kelp]

two english words and one word missing a letter

and they call it danish

🥀

[daring heron]

ny patch feature is definitely norwegian

[astral yarrow]

if i didnt know any better, ny would be nyoussalikkapi or some shit in finnish

usso taunta bro

[spiral coral]

wraps capped at 720 this week?

[dim basalt]

ye

[spiral coral]

wack

[thick kelp]

bro what 💔

[thick kelp]

its all the same language, just different size potato in mouth whilst speaking

[terse grove]

is there any reason to rend over tc?

[thick kelp]

it does more dmg against 1T

[azure karma]

just for showing off how many keybinds you have space for

[terse grove]

oh how, the direct damage from application?

[daring heron]

+1 collat stack if hitting 2T

huge

[astral yarrow]

we always have finnish labels on most groceries here and sometimes the suomi is really funny in danish

[urban charm]

is this a halfway decent spread for dungeon damage or am i doing anything obviously poor?

[icy mulch]

What dungeon?

[urban charm]

floodgate

[icy mulch]

Yeah, that looks about the right spread

[urban charm]

word ty

[balmy kindle]

SURELY

[spiral coral]

Drop it into wow analyzer if you’re ever unsure.

Logs are more accurate and you can look up top players logs and see what they were doing compared to you also.

[urban charm]

it does a good job for dungeon slices?

kk got'cha

[spiral coral]

It’s ok

[urban charm]

better than guessing i suppose xD

[spiral coral]

The things it tells you that are the most helpful are just certain uptimes and when some other players delayed something and if you rushed it or didn’t align it with something etc.

[glacial rapids]

Arms memes aside. Is 699 ilvl good enough for m+10s?

[fresh spire]

👍 👍

[sacred zodiac]

we did it with 670 gear you'll be fine

[thick kelp]

yes

[glacial rapids]

good to know, ty

[terse osprey]

Is arms really that bad this season?

[balmy kindle]

No after 8% its kinda alright , we are not amazing top tier but playable

[terse osprey]

Gotcha thx

[fast wedge]

are we running skullspliter in m+"

[thick kelp]

Stop the count guys

[nocturne oxide]

So I looked at the warcraft logs this morning and arms is 2nd now? Am I missing something? 8% couldn't have done that much work?

ikr lol

[boreal quartz]

Do not show logged runs per spec xd

[boreal quartz]

Only ppl good at arms swapped so ur looking at a tiny sample of above average play

And if u have 10 logs 95% is top 1-2 so its only the best best

Rather than 95th % of 10k BM hunters

[nocturne oxide]

Yeah I just noticed that 95 samples I was like O that explains it xD

[boreal quartz]

(my read anyways)

[boreal quartz]

Nah 95th % sample

Not raw number 95

It's relative to class population

[nocturne oxide]

gotcha

[boreal quartz]

Thats why it can be so fucking hard to get good logs on dead specs

The last few are rlly good at what they are doin

[nocturne oxide]

Thanks for reply to me btw 🙂

[viral locust]

Cooked add padding damage lol, filter by boss damage very different story

Wclog no doubt be excluding most of these add damage rights when phases are skippable too 🤣

[thick kelp]

Adds need to die too...

[candid pecan]

uhm, we're in trouble

if they end up nerfing demolish or something

GG see you 12.0

[candid pecan]

95 parses, no arms parses from Araz onwards, so arms is great on two ST fights + on Demolish pad fight

[daring heron]

Lmao is this because of soulbinder maybe

[candid pecan]

I will try Araz myhtic as arms

better shockwave, knock up

[daring heron]

wait is ret discord still closed

they cant be complaining about damage still surely

[candid pecan]

dont think so

[daring heron]

their m+ dam is huge and now raid seems good too

[rare kite]

nahh arms is just really good now

[daring heron]

xd

[soft hedge]

Maybe loomithar is carrying it with a big execute amp

[fresh spire]

Reposting as funny

[dim basalt]

I need this but for mages

[fresh spire]

[native tree]

I like this but while looking at recruitment today I feel we just getting singled out, its painful being arms

[hasty pumice]

Purge the city Retri paladins.

[olive nest]

Ain’t no way

[glacial moat]

Is arms that back?

[fresh spire]

Just don't look how much 2nd boss is inflated by adds

Don't look at boss damage too

[teal fossil]

mythic also has like 5 public logs

[celest forge]

Arms for me does 500k-1m less than fury with a similar parse%

[cosmic garden]

have slayer build for arms m+

?

[minor gust]

8% more add pad

[cosmic garden]

is that good?

[spiral coral]

I can't wait to see the stuff ppl come up with in housing

ppl already making jumping puzzles

[gentle frigate]

Gonna try arms in a mythic

Will report back

[spiral coral]

col feels amazing in big pulls

[gentle frigate]

I fucking hate playing fury so I hope so

[halcyon valve]

When auto decline fury

[mortal crag]

did crit make arms a thing again?

[calm hollow]

hmm

[mortal crag]

@daring heron what did ud o mate

[calm hollow]

deathless taza

[mortal crag]

are u critcake?

[tacit crystal]

yes

[mortal crag]

chad

arms for halls of atonement?

a play?

[rare kite]

prob good for overall

arms st still bad tho

[mortal crag]

idk crit did 4.1m on ara 2nd boss

[rare kite]

i did not see it, but did he get to cleave off adds? 2nd target adds quite a bit for colossus cdr

[mortal crag]

blud its 2nd boss

cant really cleave so much

maybe a tad

[rare kite]

idk 2nd boss has adds that spawn decently frequent. not done arakara since last week and i have goldfish memory so idk how well i did on havoc there

@daring heron you gonna upload some m+ continent soon?

[minor gust]

Arms = overall farmer

That's all

[daring heron]

ye probably the arms vs fury run from yesterday in gambit

sorry @safe vigil

[minor gust]

Damn did I miss a Crit Biz key

[daring heron]

you did

[minor gust]

Gambit feels so free right now it's nice

[rare kite]

gambit goated dungeon. lots of other dungeons i thought were great at the time but didn't hold up when released again

gambit still holds up

[minor gust]

Streets after nerfs is nice too

Like 3 extra minutes and - 1 oasis wave holy moly

[daring heron]

dunno maybe

ST obviously isnt good

[tacit crystal]

i hate gambit

[daring heron]

but it's not as bad as I thought at the same time

[tacit crystal]

no one ccs the murlocs

then you have to pull the 4 guys with 0 uptime

then the key is over imo

[daring heron]

it's fine the murlocs still bleed while they run away

arterial bleed and tierset value

[tacit crystal]

its just so aids im expected to grip every one

[minor gust]

Helps when you got tanks who always pull shit onto bosses. Can't do bad ST if there's no ST

[rare kite]

don't need to cc them if they just die

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-use-your-brain-use-the-brain-think-brain-gif-7914082

[tacit crystal]

yeah except no one kills them

so aids

[rare kite]

i kill them

[daring heron]

today is a disaster I gotta play keys with the team but it's also supposed to be upper day at the gym

[hexed parrot]

did they nerv the procc rate from jastors diamond?

[daring heron]

why do i have to choose

[rare kite]

just do a 45m day at gym? better a shorter day than no day

[daring heron]

i have no time now

maybe i go after keys

like after midnight

gg

[rare kite]

ye go after keys, short workout

[loud wadi]

gym > keys

[thick kelp]

did u play the old new Slayer build with rend

I dipped

[minor gust]

Get a standing desk and work out and do keys at the same time

[daring heron]

not yet

[minor gust]

[thick kelp]

ic

[daring heron]

maybe I bring a laptop to the gym and deplete 1 key between each set

[thick kelp]

:mhm

[tacit crystal]

that would own

[daring heron]

pushing keys to failure

[minor gust]

1 death = 5 squats

[tacit crystal]

man

why isnt verb in

[daring heron]

isnt verb norwegian

thats prolly why

[red pond]

hey folks

how important are haste vs crit for arms warrior?

i have 37% crit 22% haste

[thick kelp]

idk

[red pond]

should i spec more into haste?

[thick kelp]

sim it

[daring heron]

or am i mixing him up with someone else, i think i am

what walhe said

[loud wadi]

[tacit crystal]

dunno where hes from

[thick kelp]

!sim

[tacit crystal]

only echo people ik are verb krona wallife revvez

[gentle frigate]

Hey fellas do we take any diofferent talents from whats on Wowhead?

[atomic flume]

Are you guys charging into the tangles on Loomithar

[last saddle]

critcake is become beefcake

[tacit crystal]

do not swap to tangles

[mortal crag]

is it a diff playstyle than last season?

[daring heron]

sameish

[minor gust]

sks das it

[daring heron]

we have sks to add in

[minor gust]

And more love on TC casts

[mortal crag]

still gotta play cleave and plan around collat?

when do we sks?

[minor gust]

I've been prioing TC more than op just to keep up rends

[mortal crag]

MAYBE ill try it

[minor gust]

Your bleeds own as Colossus

And so does demolish holy moly

[mortal crag]

just shut down the discord no?

[thick kelp]

on cd

[mortal crag]

ye but on opeenr i mean

[rare kite]

he is

[atomic flume]

But muh jugg stacks

[mortal crag]

i charged once

(i play fury)

i charged until charge killed me and now i dont charge

[atomic flume]

Leap into tangles like a chad

Got it

[mortal crag]

or wait for them to be close

and bladestorm

more pad

[stoic ocean]

Does anyone else hate keeping up jugg stacks? I just wanna remd stuff to death

[minor gust]

can charge just uh make sure to move back right away

[stoic ocean]

I miss season 1

[mortal crag]

@minor gust charge while holding S

still die

blame game

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[wise mauve]

Is slayer arms no rend competitive for m+ after all? Seen mixed reviews

[minor gust]

Sorry Mr raid leader I can't swap to it cuz I can't charge to it

[wise mauve]

Fury feels like garbage

[thick kelp]

idk like after ava wb rava cleave

u have free global for it

[mortal crag]

ur mom

last season opener was roar ss rava ava wb

[thick kelp]

wow

[mortal crag]

now its different?

[thick kelp]

now its roar ss ava wb rava cleave sks

clap akd cleave whilst tank gathers

u know the drill

[minor gust]

Just press your buttons and you will be fine

[mortal crag]

no i actually dont

i dont know the drill

[thick kelp]

gg

[mortal crag]

i hate arms

[thick kelp]

watch criticalstrikebulk

[minor gust]

Critcake gym streams when

[thick kelp]

100 sub goal?

[vapid goblet]

https://tenor.com/view/armswarrior-warrior-warriorwow-armswow-armswarriorwow-gif-27099127

[daring heron]

I'm about to lose all my gains

after my lazy eye surgery end of september im not allowed to lift for a whole month

[thick kelp]

wtf

what does that have to do with wroking out

[rare kite]

any pressure on eye is bad

[minor gust]

I think I'm still half chubbed from my 64 mil demolish Crit in big mama

[gentle frigate]

LOLOL

Not the half chub

[halcyon valve]

Blood pressure

[latent moss]

pressure ye

[urban charm]

apparently he's not allowed to crit on demolish either cuz that'll fuck his eye up if it creates chubs

[fresh spire]

ARMS

[halcyon valve]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898720803586048/1407792816318578881/image.png?ex=68a95efa&is=68a80d7a&hm=33d34f19f3adc304ae74112a0750331f4af22c9f24bbd1ad4f15681d0bf9ac39&

[hasty pumice]

WOW

Angry glorp

[gaunt owl]

thats all they gonna do

mention Arms

and nothing will change

now you can quote me on that

[latent moss]

ARMS

[hasty pumice]

ARMS

[thick kelp]

Arms is currently the least played spec in mythic raids lmao

[latent moss]

we did a great job sandbagging it

[gaunt owl]

Below Survival

imagine the agony

put it out of its misery

[latent moss]

being below survival is crazy

[gaunt owl]

Ret paladin are really fucking crybaby with no balls

they still gaming

i'm gonna hope into paladin discord

to flame ret player

with their little tiny weasel

[thick kelp]

in wht channel

its still closed

🗂️

[gaunt owl]

everywhere

[halcyon valve]

i will

[daring heron]

valsalva maneuver would be way too much pressure in the eye

[hasty pumice]

I love you

[thick kelp]

ic

[daring heron]

or just straining in general, especially when holding breath

[hasty pumice]

4 weeks of isn't the worst, you'll survive, brudda

[void bay]

If you strain too hard when doing deadlifts you can get an anal prolapse

[thick kelp]

you will lose maybe like 0.5% muscle mass in total so its np

an muscle memory will give u all your gains back within a week or two

[gaunt owl]

maybe dont use your anus to do the lift

[void bay]

i cant help it, your buttocks are the largest muscles in your body

[hasty pumice]

The feeling is the worst tho, especially with (slight) body dysmorphia

When I had my 3 weeks bronchitis I couldn't properly workout for another 2 weeks after due to recovery

That sucked balls

[thick kelp]

i feel like shit everytime my pump goes away

np

[hasty pumice]

Same, but you gotta appreciate yourself more without the pump

[gaunt owl]

body dismorphia

[hasty pumice]

Cause we can't always chase it

[gaunt owl]

watch some Daddy Noel video so you know what is right

[hasty pumice]

I've been following him for years, dudes dope

Saw him on my feed first time he posted the goofy porn cooking videos, love the guy but I do wonder to which degree he can follow his own advices

[gaunt owl]

he is trying to teach his own mistake

[hasty pumice]

Don't we all?

Like this entire channel for example

Don't play arms kids

[vagrant dew]

arms is cool

[potent walrus]

oh boy i do love being declined from every single HC manaforge group

[thick kelp]

do as I say not as I do

[hasty pumice]

Yes chef

[rare kite]

ehh not everyone needs to follow their own advice. noel is on roids but still recommends against them

[hasty pumice]

"kids don't smoke! It's bad for you"
~ chain smoking Andy #2000

:classic:

[dry frost]

Arms trucks some of these keys ngl

[gaunt owl]

almost died dropping them

stay natty kiddo

in most country its even illegal to use steroids if not prescribed

[hexed turret]

Condemn apex talent

[gaunt owl]

ok somebody ban that guy

[hexed turret]

😂

[minor gust]

It's gonna be a Jugg apex or TOM

[gaunt owl]

so cringe

base talent tree is bad as fuck

but they double down on the hero talent

Blizzard dev just love making their life harder

[daring heron]

ya i know

just feelsbad

i was already getting antsy resting for 3 days on season start

my routine man

[fossil thistle]

For anyone else, something about Jastors ring being buggy with procs?

[minor gust]

It's bugged again just replace it

[sharp wyvern]

cause you guys arent doing your part

[sour forge]

It’s supposedly really inconsistent rn

[tacit crystal]

wdym

[minor gust]

It's bugged

Like it was when S2 first launched

[fossil thistle]

I still had good up time on heroic dimensius

[sour forge]

Ya sometimes it’s normal

Sometimes it’s not

[fossil thistle]

56%
All of P1, didnt proc during P2 and until 2nd platform and then it faded for the last minute ish

I’ll be replacing it next week anyways, 704 rings I have are simming like 4k behind, so one upgrade each.

Could be worth the stamina to swap too (I have M jastors)

[dreamy egret]

did they bug fix arms or something?

[minor gust]

As Kala said it's inconsistent. It's fine at times and sometimes its not

[minor gust]

8%

[sour forge]

Fotm noobs

[dreamy egret]

even after the pass i was never able to pull this in a dungeon

[gentle frigate]

Is it even worth to cleave on Lumithar

[sacred zodiac]

need arms nerfed by approx 8%

[sacred zodiac]

just sweep the tangles (or onto boss) when they get close to boss

[gentle frigate]

Thats what i thought So its not even really worth switching to cleave for that fight

[sacred zodiac]

its an st fight

[gentle frigate]

What about the demon hunter fight. Col work on that one or just sweep it too you think?

[minor gust]

I mean the other 2 DPS in your grp seem to be bots so your taking all the dmg

[sacred zodiac]

idk u can research this

wclogs for hc logs and by the time you arrive at mythic soul hunters ppl will have killed as arms

[gentle frigate]

LMAO thought I was by asking

all good though

[sacred zodiac]

asking someone to spit info is not researching lmao

check this out https://www.warcraftlogs.com/zone/rankings/44?boss=3131&class=Warrior&spec=Arms

you can see what talents ppl ran on loomithar

[gentle frigate]

Ok thanks man have a good one

[sacred zodiac]

if you play with the settings you can see what ppl ran on soul hunters

[gentle frigate]

ok

[weak wave]

😄

[minor gust]

Spongie please be my Google search bar

[halcyon valve]

[hasty pumice]

Context dear sir

[pale mantle]

wtf happened

[fossil thistle]

No, just tank actually pulled mobs.

I hate running keys where the largest pull is 6 mobs 🙂‍↔️🙂‍↔️

[hasty pumice]

Check boss damage, not adds damage

🫃

[pale mantle]

dont look that bad

this raid have a lot of aoe , so arms is good now ?

[minor gust]

Yeah totally

[pale mantle]

I mean

acceptable at least

[minor gust]

Don't look at the amount of parses or anything

[sharp wyvern]

waht happened to dev evokers

are they just a pad spec now ?

[minor gust]

Dev has always been a pad spec

[pale mantle]

yeah like

I can see only 14 parses on 2 boss

haha

[latent moss]

ye

no one is playing the spec

[minor gust]

Just small sample size never take warcraft log stats to seriously

Always with a grain of salt

[latent moss]

and the ones playing are die hard arms players

[stoic ocean]

would anyone recommend a adsdon that make my juggernaught buff bigg so I can keep track of when its aboutto expire

[latent moss]

if only there was a weakaura

[minor gust]

If only Blizz could learn to not look at warcraft log stats

And not tune only around that

[latent moss]

https://wago.io/9n9GqeQ6-

it will tell you when to use sd

[stoic ocean]

ty

[latent moss]

in execute phase u dont follow it

[digital sky]

is there a WA to track the 4p colossus buff ?

[minor gust]

Not here but it's very easy to make one especially using the WA templates on the addon

The buff is called deeper wounds

[digital sky]

i guess but im stupid and never done that :d

[latent moss]

why would u track it tho

u press ms basically on cd anyway

[digital sky]

for skull splitter ?

[dim basalt]

Not worth holding

[minor gust]

Do you use a WA pack like atrocity/luxthos/quazii?

[glacial rapids]

Just MS after demolish then skullsplit

[smoky kayak]

carried by padding adds on Soulbinder

keep in mind only about half the M bosses are filled in yet, so Mythic stats aren't very representative of anything

[latent moss]

cant wait for nexus king and dimensius where u perma drop jugg

xdd

[minor gust]

Teehee

[rare kite]

can't wait for arms to get the most dogshit apex design

[glacial rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/drama-lion-king-oh-the-drama-best-actor-gif-10261664

[minor gust]

Jugg, Tom and spiteful

[fresh spire]

condemn

then small node makes execute hit 3 targets

[minor gust]

New Slayer hero tree line gonna have big Tclap on SD cast and passive execute cleave

Calling it now

[fresh spire]

give

[minor gust]

Give give give

Fury can just have a stronger execute when cleaved with meat cleaver or something