#arms
glacial rapids
shy dove
arms isn't dead
ps. This isn't my arms warrior
dim basalt
arms isn't dead
ps. This isn't my arms warrior
No Arms is pretty dead
I mean, unless this is sarcasm
full furnace
imagine having to parse 100 to compete with someone parsing 80
dim basalt
imagine having to parse 100 to compete with someone parsing 80
On a ST fight - dont get started with aoe fights 
latent moss
imagine having to parse 100 to compete with someone parsing 80
tbf there are
9000000000000000000000 billion more logs
on bm than on arms
nobody is playing arms
shy dove
time for nerfs ig
should delete it eh
thick kelp
im full sending it next week in our heroic reclear
Imagine not sending it this week alr
shy dove
imagine having to parse 100 to compete with someone parsing 80
he has like 3/4 pieces of tier
latent hull
should delete it eh
yeah gonna see nextt patchnotes reverted the buffs for warrior
shadow ibex
Imagine not sending it this week alr
we do dimmy monday
ill play it before reset there
summer elbow
guys did we get the 8% already or is comming on tuestday?
median maple
its coming August 19
shadow ibex
Imagine not sending it this week alr
if i get all i want from m+ for arms set i can sim 4.2 mil 
rare stump
Will arms be better then fury after buffs?
dim basalt
Will arms be better then fury after buffs?
not even close lmao
rare stump
lol
dim basalt
Like its getting better, but even if it was close in terms of sim dps, most fights straight up suck for Arms
rare stump
Arms rework when?
dim basalt
Forgeweaver spawning 6 adds? yeah lemme pop SS
shadow ibex
Had to nerf it's tier instead
dim basalt
dim basalt
In terms of design col tier kinda sucks for ST
shadow ibex
Two attacks would help
dim basalt
It either is op aoe good st or good aoe and bad st
shadow ibex
More demo stacks more cdr more uptime on all debuffs
Can add more dmg to the first two strikes
dim basalt
In theory yes, but it will still feel kinda bad
Not having any power outside of these strikes
shadow ibex
Only thing that won't touch aoe lol
untold pewter
Folks, how to tell which stat is Sohleah's using on sims?
dim basalt
Because everything else about Arms doesnt work with burst
shadow ibex
It's nice that we got the bleed buff on us instead of enemies
dim basalt
So having flat talents + bursty tier is kinda ??
dim basalt
And if we are being honest Slayer tier needs a rework
shadow ibex
And if we are being honest Slayer tier needs a rework
it didnt do what it was supposed to do
still having jug fall off
still KACHING
hexed snow
last current
Pallys really that upset they ain’t top every tier
floral ledge
did someone have the updated sim overall of all class ?
to see where is the war arms dps sim post buff
shadow ibex
Folks, how to tell which stat is Sohleah's using on sims?
is there anyway to tell this btw
livid cloak
did someone have the updated sim overall of all class ?
Take the current Sim x 1.08
vast helm
we good?
glacial rapids
God, I would love to see Blizz have a backbone then nerf ret Paladins for their antics.
They'd go from a toddler meltdown to straight falling asleep from tiring themselves out.
river ridge
God, I would love to see Blizz have a backbone then nerf ret Paladins for their ...
Most rets dont deserve it because of a handful of bad actors.
That being said if Blizzard wants to Aura nerf that one guy by 10% itd be funny AF
shadow ibex
Take the current Sim x 1.08
would put me at 4.6mil fury vs 4.5mil arms
barren nova
Ya, adding the 8% they are .1mil apart still, I think they might be good for 2 bosses with the bonus damage phase in execute 🙂
sullen moat
donno if it has been postet ( if so...im sry ) but till the buff happens have alittle fun with arms slayer ( works best with 2 x tier s3 ) CcEArbixk/ZKwTdpZGVHeylmLAMjZmZmxwystsMzAAAAYGmGmxiZGmxAsZmZYmZmhBAAAAAAghZZmZGwSGjtlBWADYGmQmBbA
nova marsh
donno if it has been postet ( if so...im sry ) but till the buff happens have a...
....show the actual talent tree?
sullen moat
....show the actual talent tree?
sure.
nova marsh
have we thrown a hissy fit yet?
No it didnt
Lets stop pretending as if those ret buffs were a response and weren't pre planned
sullen moat
No it didnt
damn. we have to go nutz then
mortal niche
Lets stop pretending as if those ret buffs were a response and weren't pre plann...
let me cope ok
which makes the lack of preplanned and response buffs worse if anything
nova marsh
let me cope ok
The real cope is the arms rework is in midnight
nova marsh
at this rate hero talents need a rework
Ive been saying for months how hero trees are a mistake
nova marsh
And have caused more problems then 10 more talent points ever could
mortal niche
Ive been saying for months how hero trees are a mistake
not atall what I envisioned on announcement, thought theyd be a combination of specs
aka subspecs
sullen moat
Bleedless slayer....sounds like a cook
yes. no bleeds for arms cos we lost our arms
nova marsh
not atall what I envisioned on announcement, thought theyd be a combination of s...
I never really saw that coming just when Mountian Thane was revealed
mortal niche
Slayer needs jesus thats for sure
nova marsh
Thane dosent....really have any elements of fury
Aside from "Hey look thanes in wc3 dual wielded
thick kelp
Bleedless slayer....sounds like a cook
only if someone had been cookin with it since early ptr 
nova marsh
only if someone had been cookin with it since early ptr <a:chatting:126601985174...
Look
I haven't payed attention to ptr really
warped ether
Bring back 300% mastery dw top damage
nova marsh
Im just here the chaos cuz im not playing lol
thick kelp
Its even on wowhead
shadow ibex
Its even on wowhead <a:chatting:1266019851743399996>
dimmy atomize no rend slayer when
spaghettify
actual verb btw
halcyon valve
Ive been simming some no rend singletarget but its still too big there
Havent done aoe sims
shadow ibex
Ya, adding the 8% they are .1mil apart still, I think they might be good for 2 b...
the math isnt perfect since trinkets and idk if auto is included etc etc but yea pretty much equal in my gear
halcyon valve
Rend just sucks
nova marsh
No, sks does
shadow ibex
ill probably try no rend slayer on nexus king next week
halcyon valve
The only good part about it is that it auto applies below 35%
shadow ibex
i think you can pick up cleave p easily for FB i guess
nova marsh
Is pressing a button evrey 20ish seconds really that bad
halcyon valve
No, sks does
Oh absolutely, but i was talking pure tuning here
Rends damage across the entire uptime is like barely more than a single slam
And slam does that dmg instantly
shadow ibex
tech rend does ignore armor
- more chances to crit and has bonus crit chance with bloodletting
bleeds are good for that, its just undertuned like fuck
halcyon valve
On late prog last season i kinda ignored rend until it was no longer on target and i didnt have anything else to press
halcyon valve
rawr
shadow ibex
lore accurate
sullen moat
i played rendless colo in s2. showed critcake it and he changed it to alittle rend dmg and used that
nova marsh
I still love warrior yelling so loud it causes peoples ears to bleed
halcyon valve
I still love warrior yelling so loud it causes peoples ears to bleed
*baby screaming at 120 db*
sullen moat
thats the best part. that we yell
halcyon valve
replace heroic throw with a shout too tbh fuck it
fathom cape
Ya, adding the 8% they are .1mil apart still, I think they might be good for 2 b...
and how is it in M+ ? still under Fury ? Or close
thick kelp
Close
fathom cape
Better in aoe and under in ST ?
slow saddle
Wth is this lucl
halcyon valve
Arms still is a looot of fun on big pulls so theres that
slow saddle
But needs 4p
halcyon valve
Demolish jumping my dps from 3rd to 1st on the meters makes me feel things
shadow ibex
need a necklace plz plz god plz
slow saddle
Champion necks from.last week
shadow ibex
yea im using champ sin stained
halcyon valve
When the big demolish crit hits on first boss floodgate
shadow ibex
if i farm neck x 1.08 my arm sim will be better than fury 
dim basalt
When the big demolish crit hits on first boss floodgate <:wicked:937093876857045...
Followed by a stacked cd crit 😩
shadow ibex
just need to keep running gambit until i die
fathom cape
if i farm neck x 1.08 my arm sim will be better than fury <:copium:8390762834674...
how you sim like that just x1.08 at the sim ? (im beginner in sim and dont know exactly how sim M+/Raid on Fury/Arms)
shadow ibex
yea nothing special im pretty stupid
ran sim
4,227,000 x 1.08
its not pefect by any means cuz trinkets and shit but at a glance why good enough for me
fathom cape
Ok but wich one dungeon slice ?
shadow ibex
none
fathom cape
You only sim Patchwerk 1 target 5min ?
shadow ibex
yea i was checking my arms st sim vs my fury
fathom cape
ok
shadow ibex
if i sim aoe i sim 8 target
empty marlin
Am i the only one still playing arms ?
teal fossil
how you sim like that just x1.08 at the sim ? (im beginner in sim and dont know ...
Approximately
thick kelp
Am i the only one still playing arms ?
no
teal fossil
But have to not multiply auto attack or trinket damage
brittle sentinel
Still playing colossi arms
smoky kayak
they do sometimes apply the aura to auto attacks
sometimes they don't
Blizzistency
empty marlin
Maybe next week after 8% buff, we are gonna do better than aug
median maple
joining pugs as warrior is hard - then there is arms xD
shadow ibex
Maybe next week after 8% buff, we are gonna do better than aug
Execute amp if fury can pop off arms should be able with 8%
Probably a little sketchier time living tho
barren nova
and how is it in M+ ? still under Fury ? Or close
In mythic plus if you’re not doing Prot you’re doing it wrong. lol. The four set makes mountain do really stupid threat and damage. So I have not even tried DPS in keys
dreamy egret
hexed saddle
fire mage cannot be here
frosty pike
fuck mages in general, honestly, S tier as multiple specs every season for the past 40 years of my life
reef glade
wild mage is anywhere near here
keen geyser
In keys, are you guys holding warbreaker until demolish is off cd or just sending them whenever they are up
full furnace
better to postpone demolish than to postpone warbreaker imo
keen geyser
Okay, I'll give that a try. Thanks
spiral coral
Never delay wb, @keen geyser but if something is about to line up like demo with wb (about 8seconds max) then yeah hold it
icy magnet
"double Duskthread Lining on wrist and cloak" what we replace cloak with as arms?
median maple
isnt that old guide?
full furnace
belt
icy magnet
belt is better than delve belt?
shadow ibex
at max craft yea
icy magnet
isnt that old guide?
where i find the new one?
median maple
where i find the new one?
icy for example
empty marlin
Do u think arms will ever have a future in raid (especially single target) ?
shadow ibex
the race is only on the 4th boss so who knows
fury was able to crank on loomithar and arms should have stronger exe after 8%
anything but right now is an improvement its p rough playing arms this week
devout pewter
yea, been playing a few low keys and it feels kinda meh.. like you're just trailing behind
but I don't like fury so whatever
rain cipher
Do u think arms will ever have a future in raid (especially single target) ?
Why do they need to pick dps warrior when other classes can out dps us, have higher burst dps and maybe immunity? Prot warrior is enough
devout pewter
´(and I'm really shitty at remembering routes and important stuff, so tanking is off limits for me sadly.. even though I like it)
zenith warren
anyone attempted tazavesh deathless? how was it
summer elbow
Worth using catalist on hero legs? 0/9
devout pewter
and vault then gives you legs
summer elbow
and vault then gives you legs
XD
devout pewter
just wait at least until then, maybe you'll lucky and instantly get a 2pc together with that 😄
tranquil sundial
is it a good idea to come back to wow and play some arms right now?
lost flare
how much i troll if i play salyer arms in m+? 😄
minor gust
how much i troll if i play salyer arms in m+? 😄
Not at all. It's more troll to play Colossus than slayer in M+ once you got 4pc
Woah negative boss dmg be upon you
summer elbow
Not at all. It's more troll to play Colossus than slayer in M+ once you got 4pc
Does colossus push ahead with 4p?
shadow ibex
Colossus is really bad with any gear
nova marsh
So were back to s1 where colo dead?
minor gust
Does colossus push ahead with 4p?
Slayer vs Colossus right now for arms depends what your playing for. Colossus still has better aoe but not by much. Meanwhile Slayer is omega ahead in ST compared to Colossus. So will Colossus still end up doing more overall dmg in a key probably. But with Slayer you will actually do boss dmg and generally be more useful as there's way better aoe specs right now let them do the AOE and you can be useful doing boss dmg.
minor gust
So were back to s1 where colo dead?
It's not dead
icy mulch
nova marsh
It's not dead
Is it down bad?
icy mulch
I'm so surprised it worked for them.
Then again they are Paladins, so maybe I shouldn't be.
nova marsh
I'm so surprised it worked for them.
My guy ir didnt qork
Lets stop pretending blizzard pays any attention to class discorda
minor gust
Is it down bad?
Read my paragraph above for an idea
nova marsh
Is slayer reliant on jugg carrying tho7
minor gust
Depends if you play the no rend + Jugg version or non Jugg version
nova marsh
There's a no jugg slayer?
minor gust
Yeah the same M+ Slayer build been using all expansion
nova marsh
Sorry if I sound dumb I haven't played arms since early s1
icy mulch
Lets stop pretending blizzard pays any attention to class discorda
I know the closing thing wasn't the thing that actually worked. It was the over all stink they made that god Blizzard's attention. Seeing how popular Paladin is, that's a fair amount of unhappy customers I guess.
minor gust
Yeah the no rend + Jugg Slayer build cook was for this season thanks to the tier set
nova marsh
I know the closing thing wasn't the thing that actually worked. It was the over ...
Ret having to be good
Bevause its literally the most played spec in the game by miles
icy mulch
Yeah the no rend + Jugg Slayer build cook was for this season thanks to the tier...
I saw that build, but haven't had a chance to play it.
nova marsh
I remeber liking slayer in keys besides the jugg bs in s1
Nice to see both hero specs have a niche
minor gust
I remember trying to make Jugg Slayer work in S1 but it was pretty shit
fresh spire
minor gust
pearl wind
I know the closing thing wasn't the thing that actually worked. It was the over ...
No they literally just buffed the classes doing worse than Aug
The ret thing was an unnecessary crashout that only made everyone else think less of them
minor gust
thats the best part
halcyon valve
Closing arms channel until rend is the biggest source of damage
hexed saddle
closing arms channel until they just make it legion arms
minor gust
I second this
icy mulch
The ret thing was an unnecessary crashout that only made everyone else think les...
I mean, did it make ppl think less of them? We already sort of viewed em that way. lol
pearl wind
It certainly reinforced the image
chilly isle
oblique lodge
Ret having to be good
On a sidenote , ret channel admin stopped the channel from being texted in cos he cries for ret under performing
shadow ibex
ready for 8% 
summer elbow
Slayer vs Colossus right now for arms depends what your playing for. Colossus st...
So as slayer we should go for a more st and cleave build than aoe build thanks
glacial rapids
I remember trying to make Jugg Slayer work in S1 but it was pretty shit
Do you have a link for this build? What does your multi target opener look like?
pearl wind
I'm enjoying slayer no rend + cleave maxxing
minor gust
prob could get away with just 2pc but idk
lofty pulsar
grave mulch
icy mulch
good night song
bold granite
icy mulch
It certainly reinforced the image
True
void bay
What are we going to do in here if the buff brings arms to middle of the pack
fresh spire
icy mulch
https://i.imgflip.com/a389n4.gif
Thane 4pc is the only thing Fury has going for it this season in M+.
jade ember
Man why do all the new delve trinkets have to be so pookie
icy mulch
So I doubt 8% is gonna do much for Arms vs Fury
sour forge
Thane 4pc is the only thing Fury has going for it this season in M+.
Slayer low key slaps
grave mulch
Keys without skyfury feels terrible
full furnace
Man why do all the new delve trinkets have to be so pookie
I'd rather not spend the entire season searching for a hero track funhouse lens, thank you very much
grave mulch
oh shit i rattled the bees nest
dry frost
He is annoying but at this point it’s a valid crashout
icy mulch
Yeah
grave mulch
tbh i think thats just him
icy mulch
grave mulch
Like if hes bursting like shit. thats on him. Arms doesnt even burst that low
shadow ibex
flattest dmg profile this side of the mississippi
summer elbow
Like if hes bursting like shit. thats on him. Arms doesnt even burst that low
At least they giga burst on aoe how about us? Nothing
With the buff and the slayer m+ build our st will be middle of the pack or pretty good actually?
lucid thicket
I thought the buff wasn't enough?
void bay
enough for what?
lucid thicket
To compete with Fury
Pre-buff Arms was worse than SMF
How does that actually compare
void bay
all I know is what is in #updates-midnight
vernal briar
Augmentation warrior when?
lucid thicket
Idk, I pvp
rare kite
how do you pull 200k oversim?
if in raid, did you highroll jugg?
dreamy egret
if in raid, did you highroll jugg?
idk thats what my dmg breakdown looked like
rare kite
on what boss. coz there's damage amp on a few
dreamy egret
loom
rare kite
33% damage phase
dreamy egret
ah
stray willow
is arms saved
shadow ibex
To compete with Fury
my arms and fury ST are about equal with 8% buff
stray willow
both specs feel meh
shadow ibex
arms should have stronger exe so might be relevant
shadow ibex
both specs feel meh
maybe fury could see some play if its burst aoe wasnt constantly nerfed in s1 lol
imagine if you could odyn orb sets on forgeweaver
stray willow
im coming back from ret in s2 and the aoe for fury feels pathetic
dense rose
quick question, does arms feel terra bad in keys? I just tried an 8 as arms, and my overall as arms was the same as prot
I have 2pc/2pc and running last season M+ build
shadow ibex
i wouldnt do any pve as arms until reset
the numbers just arent there
shouldnt be losing to a prot tho unless he's like 701
vs 675 or smth
boreal igloo
hows arms looking with the 8% buff?
minor gust
about 8% stronger
granite coral
about 8% stronger
arctic iris
balmy kindle
the spite is strong
nova marsh
It must be
Ret has survived as the most played spec in wow. It must suffer for that alone
static onyx
is arms saved
absolutely not lmfao, warrior is cooked for s3. reroll unless you just lOvE warrior - coming from a war main for 4 expacs now.
nova marsh
My guy
There is nothing wrong with playing a cooked spec
The pugging experience is bad regardless of what you play
fast wharf
Prot is at a good spot anyway, isnt it?
jagged oar
yessir it is mighty fun to play
dire hinge
it's pretty chill
vast helm
boreal quartz
gentle talon
idk thats what my dmg breakdown looked like
a bit late but i sim'ed against dummies and tested
and i can do more than sim by spamming executes with jug, meanwhile sim indicates mortal strike hits sginificantly more than execute
boreal quartz
if you test on dummies the hp goes down like this in sims vs like this ingame
so damage will be mega skewed
civic path
Arms still dead?
gentle talon
any suggestions for what I should craft with the free runed enchanted crest?
I am also capped out on runed and gilded (105 both), i assume craft a 720 wep
(set pieces are from vault and raid)
tacit crystal
wrists
dreamy egret
any suggestions for what I should craft with the free runed enchanted crest?
I ...
Well after weapon would be wrist with the writhing arm band on it.
eager sigil
any suggestions for what I should craft with the free runed enchanted crest?
I ...
you craft weapon next week
you dont use your enchanted runed crest until spark 3
if at all
balmy kindle
Next week mythic weapon or tier
vale gorge
Ret has survived as the most played spec in wow. It must suffer for that alone
Thats because it's no brain spam Tempest. We're low but at least we have a great gameplay atm
slow saddle
Lucky sod!
fresh spire
shadow ibex
i thought for sure liquid would down forge
i went to bed after like a 1.5% wipe or smth
weird how 4 orbs spawn and there's 1 boss in melee making it a 5 target fight... wouldn't it be weird if there was a class capped at exactly 5 targets....
shadow ibex
fury buffs
thats the perfect dmg profile for it it should pop off but shit like odyns and its burst had to get killed
tulip walrus
is arms getting hit with nerf?
glacial rapids
is arms getting hit with nerf?
Why would you think that?
halcyon valve
8% buff on coming reset
tulip walrus
just not seeing many of us
halcyon valve
No nerf
tulip walrus
is fury better then arms?
shadow ibex
Yes
halcyon valve
no
azure karma
until reset for sure
latent moss
after reset too
shadow ibex
after reset too
too
shadow ibex
been farming arms gear in prep for reset like gearing up a new char
azure karma
i am sure, that arms raid logs look worse then they are. Most good Arms players are forced into fury - only a few Nerds are left at a good level.
candid pecan
the raid is somewhat tailored towards burst aoe
fury bladestorm is decent, atleast its fast
whereas slayer arms is just ST with no burst aoe
azure karma
what i said has nothing to do with bossdesign
latent moss
i am sure, that arms raid logs look worse then they are. Most good Arms players ...
thats always the case when ur spec is unpopular
shadow ibex
its still relevant
latent moss
but arms is terrible objectively
shadow ibex
unless we're doing so much exe dmg that we catch up to the people deleting adds in all the final phases blizzard likes to do
latent moss
low sim
cannot take aoe without losing a lot of st
flat damage profile
obv not gonna be simming low after reset
but fury is tankier, sims higher, and can take aoe for almost free
latent moss
these buffs will make pick arms not trolling tho
shadow ibex
to actually do what it can only do
latent moss
gaunt cove
How much crit / haste we still aim for ?
spiral coral
The DF magical percentages
slow saddle
100% crit
untold pewter
Folks, how to tell which stat is Sohleah's using on sims? Struggling to find an answer to this
wind flicker
just need my 8% <:copium:839076283467431956>
U simming with boxing gloves instead of weapons or smth?
astral yarrow
Folks, how to tell which stat is Sohleah's using on sims? Struggling to find an ...
probably this while overriding the stat amount
at some point an option will come on raidbots
fresh spire
as far as i know it sims all versions of it currently when you put it into the sim
untold pewter
Gotcha thanks
marble steppe
is arms good now after the 8% buff?
calm isle
Got a cursed idol, you guys like the Sacbrood or the Pacemaker better to pair with it
smoky kayak
is arms good now after the 8% buff?
It’s ok, it just doesn’t really excel anywhere
smoky kayak
- Slayer ST is still generally behind Fury
- Colossus AE is very similar to Thane, but it’s ST is also lower
You can certainly play it and be successful enough, it just doesn’t really have any “yeah arms is good here” kind of spot
nova marsh
I think arms only has places where it's bad
halcyon valve
Do dungeons with worse dps players to cope
gusty nymph
Let s do a pally démonstration 🤪
halcyon valve
#buff-arms channel when
scarlet folio
To be fair most players are bad.
silk gull
Is it worth swapping to fury, I can do pretty decent mythic+ AoE damage but single target I do like 1.5m at 689 ilvl. I'm a pretty shit player so don't know if it's me or the class when I see other classes doing both great AoE and ST
halcyon valve
its a mix of both
silk gull
Would fury provide a noticeable difference? I just got my stats to where I think is good and dread trying to regear
shadow ibex
obviously less good players playing arms so less good arms parses from good players
but arms def competing for worst dps spec in game this week
silk gull
but arms def competing for worst dps spec in game this week
Sorry for the spam but do classes change that frequently? when you say "this week" I'm not very clued up where to be seeking information sorry :S
shadow ibex
we'll all find out together tuesday after the 8%
tribal latch
is there a beneift to casting rend on ST? or is it fine to still use Thunderclap to refresh it even in ST
vast helm
minor gust
is there a beneift to casting rend on ST? or is it fine to still use Thunderclap...
Yeah the benefit is rend does more dmg. But it's so minor it doesn't matter
tacit crystal
is there a beneift to casting rend on ST? or is it fine to still use Thunderclap...
its barely a damage increase
balmy kindle
Very alive spec
halcyon valve
Why would i ever play anything that isnt arms
balmy kindle
^^ hes right
minor gust
Because it's not legion arms
vast helm
miss Focus Rage
halcyon valve
Okay old man but i havent played in legion
minor gust
You're playing the blended boiled chicken version of arms
sharp wyvern
stop asking for legion arms
they gonna actually make it happen and we are gonna hate it
icy mulch
You're playing the blended boiled chicken version of arms
Even that may have more flavor than Arms.
minor gust
funny 20 sec cd spin
shadow ibex
both made for the bench
i hate fury but i am disappointed not one in on liquid or echo forge pulls its straight 5 target constant cleave
cloud berry
It feels like arms should have had mountain thane
charred brook
It feels like arms should have had mountain thane
I used to agree but lore wise mountain thanes were fury warriors that’s why
rain cipher
RIP
azure topaz
go against the grain, live a little 🙂 go arms
shadow ibex
had to be nerfed bi-weekly in s1 obviously
dry frost
Pretty much yeah
Play what you want but if you’re mythic raiding you should prolly just swap fury
hasty vault
fury gives me carpal tunnel 😑
teal fossil
3k first week is not easy no matter what spec you play
and its easy no matter what spec you play if you wanna wait a couple more weeks
teal fossil
ye
static onyx
There is nothing wrong with playing a cooked spec
Been playing Frost DK for 2 weeks and already get invited more, do more damage and have way more survivability. Pugging isn’t nearly as bad. Warrior sucks rn and it’s sad but true lol
shadow ibex
I did some 11s but just cuz
summer elbow
Been playing Frost DK for 2 weeks and already get invited more, do more damage a...
You dont get invited as war?
shadow ibex
I get invited as fury and im only picking like 2/3 dungeons so my options are very slim
static onyx
You dont get invited as war?
Not nearly as much as I do as DK
finite grotto
I would love to get a 10 in this week but gear poop
shadow ibex
I could probably get invited as arms hust cuz ilvl and score week 1
boreal quartz
You dont get invited as war?
You need to be overqualified it's just the way it is
summer elbow
Not nearly as much as I do as DK
And how you feel the dmg? Between them as dk and warrior
static onyx
And how you feel the dmg? Between them as dk and warrior
It’s a substantial difference. I have 4 set on Frost and pump astronomically hard.
summer elbow
Mmm i should play frost then? Mmm Man i love warrior more than anything
static onyx
As a warrior main for 4 expansions, reroll.
summer elbow
But i wouldnt tolerate being ignored cause my class sucks
static onyx
We got ignored in s2 because our class sucks and now we just suck more lmfao
summer elbow
I saw critcake pumping on m+ as fury
static onyx
I saw critcake pumping on m+ as fury
Well that’s Critcake with a 4 set lmfao
summer elbow
All is right in the world. Now if I could only get fuckin weapons
You see
summer elbow
Fury ownss
static onyx
Put Obli next to him with a 4 set as Frost DB and he’d shit on Critcake
Right now is a weird time bc no one has stats optimized, 4 sets, crafted embellishments etc. Just wait until a couple weeks in lmfao
Unless you were stacked in S2 and you also already have a 2/4 set for this season. Ilvl alone isn’t the thing making people pump
slate grail
good frost does like 1-2m more overall than fury and havoc can do like 11m some dungeons
spiral coral
I've yet to see a fdk do shit in dungeons. Maybe I've yet to play with a "good one" or they're all fotms but good god I'm not believing that hype lol
minor gust
most FDKs are gonna be fotm
dim basalt
But fdk only has 2 buttons
minor gust
FDK is all about perfectly doing your oblit windows everytime
dim basalt
welp
minor gust
im sure fotm shitters are gonna fuck that up frequently
summer elbow
FDK is all about perfectly doing your oblit windows everytime
They running oblit instead breath right
minor gust
they run both
pearl wind
it really feels like execute sucks even with juggernaut
slayer + juggernaut it still feels tepid like the only reason i cast it is to juice up mortal strike
i think arms needs the 8% + a buff specifically to execute
like it's the execute spec and more of a ST/2 target spec, why does execute feel like a weak fart
charred brook
5 bosses in no dps warrior guys this is surely a save your best dps for last important bosses case right
charred brook
Guys, we may have to consider the angle here
It may be time to lock down the discord
shadow ibex
warrior will be useful after not seeing vault or any drops
charred brook
Surely people’s guilds won’t copy liquids comp and not run warriors right
halcyon valve
attack power raidbuff
charred brook
But I was told fury warrior is near the top in single target dps
spiral coral
they aren't doing a single target boss atm tho
charred brook
they aren't doing a single target boss atm tho
Begone with your logic
What about the 5 target boss they just did
mortal niche
attack power raidbuff
surprised you said that over rally
latent moss
What about the 5 target boss they just did
explosion
halcyon valve
surprised you said that over rally
rally is useless
charred brook
What about the single target 2nd boss
mortal niche
very true, a shell of its former self
charred brook
xd
charred brook
I’m just dooming for fun it will be fine
Nothing we aren’t used to
Gotta laugh during times like this or else what’s the point right
If we can’t make fun of ourselves who can!!!
shadow ibex
hope for fast race for more tuning
spiral coral
At least we have Scott:(
charred brook
Do tanks count as class players tho
If they have to basically play every tank
I guess Scott does play warrior a lot though right
spiral coral
99% of the time yeah
shadow ibex
looted secret technique in super clean run where we +2 10 gambit and i gotta pick between priest who PI me and DH tank with gr8 route to give it to
sacred zodiac
roll and move on or
minor gust
delete it
rare kite
looted secret technique in super clean run where we +2 10 gambit and i gotta pic...
give to dh. never let PI win
delete PI
smoky kayak
why tf am i second on dps on fractillus in our wipe
you got picked less than other people
turbid solar
because fractilus is a good fight for fury? if you act like warlocks dont exist
fair tinsel
Did they forget a 0 with that arms buff?
zenith warren
dimensius hc much harder than sal?
digital sky
so depressing to play soulhunter colossus and still not in top 10 dps
shadow ibex
Go again Tuesday
gentle frigate
Is the 8percwnt buffs to arms gonna be enough???
shadow ibex
It will make it not trolling to play
echo plume
minor gust
nova marsh
Cuz it's jover for arms
Oh god
It really is over
I just saw the WF kill on Loom. Fury was top DPS
It's over for warr s1 will be repeated
fresh spire
if you ignore the webs and get to sit on boss fury cranks
nova marsh
Really does feel like arms has no purpose without ST dam
fresh spire
arms legit just needs st
its the same reason why fury is playable is because its ST profile both in aoe and ST is solid
nova marsh
Meanwhile arms has to choose between being mediocore at best at one or the other
I really don't get why arms is designed like this.
shadow ibex
we probably do plent sent tm but no way i can send arms
stable fiber
i can send arms since i havent even entered normal yet and only 1 boss of heroic
xdd
fading stirrup
do we think arms will be better than fury on tuesday
latent moss
no
stable fiber
i cant believe arms is lowest on soul hunters
a 50 percentile lock parse = 100 percentile arms
felt good on ptr but i guess not good enough
hollow wave
I`am exploring slayer in M+, the guide said this. This mean its possible to drop thunderours roar or just thunderours words and uproar?
sour forge
I`am exploring slayer in M+, the guide said this. This mean its possible to drop...
If you do take words I suggest running OF
hollow wave
What is OF?
hollow wave
But does he means to drop just the two nodes that follow TR, or replace TR entirely?
sour forge
Oh god I thought I was in fury sorry
glacial rapids
It hurts my feelings to do really well in a dungeon and only pull like 2.5-3mil overall.
spiral coral
Liquid bout to down this boss
nova marsh
It hurts my feelings to do really well in a dungeon and only pull like 2.5-3mil ...
Depression incarnate
nova marsh
Liquid bout to down this boss
Is the RWF a good one this time? I wasn't paying attention cuz I thought they were still gear farming
void bay
Is the RWF a good one this time? I wasn't paying attention cuz I thought they we...
I'm enjoying it. Last boss was crazy.
shadow ibex
boss is dead
void bay
I hate how everything is sponsored. "Coinbase world first kill"... Echo are getting there with that crap too, but not quite as bad yet
icy mulch
Look what I found in the wild!
paper summit
does the void weapon actually do anything dps wise?
strange torrent
is that 8% gonna help arms ST dmg?
or has anyone done a sim for arms with the 8% buff?
sour forge
It’s 8% better
shadow ibex
take ur current sim and x 1.08
wide wigeon
ok, I basically skipped season 2 bc work, but Im back now, how bad is Arms rn?
I havent tried Fury since MoP(it was so dogshit I got traumatized for life)
balmy kindle
It hurts my feelings to do really well in a dungeon and only pull like 2.5-3mil ...
NGL 2.5-3m overall is very low though should be easily doing more
balmy kindle
ok, I basically skipped season 2 bc work, but Im back now, how bad is Arms rn?
Playable in m+ but without buffs raid dmg is pitiful
strange torrent
@grave mulch so i read that i felt stupid
wide wigeon
Playable in m+ but without buffs raid dmg is pitiful
blegh
Idk if its worth trying Fury, Im so used to play Arms that I may not be able to even compensate the difference
balmy kindle
Honestly in N and H prog it doesn't really matter imo
wild owl
Idk if its worth trying Fury, Im so used to play Arms that I may not be able to ...
Fury feels fun and 4p does plenty of damage. Give it a try
summer elbow
Fury feels fun and 4p does plenty of damage. Give it a try
Why ppl says double 
give a tons of dopamine?
wild owl
Giving the bad guys a insta double poundtown has never been a bad thing
rare kite
Why ppl says double <:blast:1248120836813226099> give a tons of dopamine?
coz it does
sour forge
wicked oak
https://tenor.com/view/thor-thor-infinity-war-gif-25139201
BTW , Thor is a spec Arms 🤷🏻♂️
rare kite
BTW , Thor is a spec Arms 🤷🏻♂️
show me where arms has lightning
nova marsh
Thor does not know what arms is
shadow ibex
Tclap
nova marsh
show me where arms has lightning
Thor uses a single two hander
Thus he is arms not fury
Or prot
And shaman 2h is a myth
shadow ibex
You need glyph for tclap tho
rare kite
hmhh but no lightning. arms thunderclap has no oomph
shadow ibex
It's only hit hard once in all of wow
The df s3
And even that was just mostly free rend imo
balmy kindle
me no care me just want to press
grand idol
Thus he is arms not fury
He is actually a fury warrior. He dual wields Stormbreaker and Mjolnir in End Game.
https://tenor.com/view/thor-chris-hemsworth-avengers-assemble-avengers-endgame-avengers-gif-23064331
balmy kindle
The last arms warrior to matter in wow was garrosh
paper summit
How do those mythic world first raiders decide which toons they are going to be playing? The liquid guys have 14 characters each. What if with all the splits one toon hits trinkets and misses weapons, then another toon hits 1 trinket, 1 weapon, no tier, etc. Then another one hits all tier, no trinkets, etc. It just seems like a giant cluster fuck.
nova marsh
How do those mythic world first raiders decide which toons they are going to be ...
A lot of math
And deciding what classes suit evrey encounter ig idk
I'm not that sweaty
paper summit
liquid is finally playing riku on a fight.
i would imagine he spent his nights doing M+ on the sidelines
nova marsh
I usually avoid the rwf part of the community
Because half the time it ends in drama of people salty their favorite (e)sports team didn't win
paper summit
its something to listen to while i play, or watch on second monitor
nova marsh
I usually just watch youtube or anime for that
....espically since if I don't play with sound sometimes I just use my tv lol
paper summit
that feral druid in liquids group right now is dps right? he's gotta be
damn, he's guardian on armory. Why is his damage so high as a tank?
balmy kindle
Bear is good
You know bear is good when sweaty Lao Wang says : newbie just play bear 🐻
4 button max spec
nova marsh
And you can't die
paper summit
oh he's gotta be kitty. Im pretty sure yipz and scott are tanks
latent moss
damn, he's guardian on armory. Why is his damage so high as a tank?
armory is bugged 99% of the time
also he prob logged out as guardian
boreal quartz
Armory is the biggest gaslighter ever
boreal quartz
That's the wow community
The site literally shows all stats wrong
nova marsh
Oh I know lol
stable fiber
there are 3 bosses
where arms is almost getting beat by prot warrior
and is beat by aug on like 5/8
nova marsh
Man
I'm glad I didn't reroll
That's extremely depressing
Actual fucking tank damage.
pearl wind
arms probably needs a 20% buff ngl
maybe if it's so dogwater out the gate they'll buff it again after the 8%
nova marsh
Aug is omega cringe
boreal quartz
Aug is omega cringe
I did a +2 on an alt and they invited an aug
nova marsh
I feel like the only idea of a support I'd be okay with is if wow stole "boon dps":
boreal quartz
boreal quartz
I feel like the only idea of a support I'd be okay with is if wow stole "boon dp...
Youd need more and less aids ones (+6 man m+)
narrow flax
i see
stable fiber
same with bear
well bear is pretty good dps
prot pala is just the worst amongst the tanks
dim basalt
VDHs lost a lot of skill going into S3
I have not seen a single good one
They all get clapped within seconds on big pulls
Same with pwars somehow
balmy kindle
Same with pwars somehow <:keks:936231610850897992>
Pwar might be dps war rage tanking
Never ignore pain, never shield block 
I will press revenge and shield slam and you will heal me 
weak wave
😁
balmy kindle
hasty pumice
With the 8% aura buff, do you guys think that arms will be better than fury in M+?
Also where tf would I put skull basher 
sour forge
With the 8% aura buff, do you guys think that arms will be better than fury in M...
No. Might be better in huge pulls but no boss damage is sad
hasty pumice
Thane's boss damage isn't that much higher, it's mostly slayer fury
Though then again I'm basing this off of my garbage current gear sims lmao
That's with BL and Phys comp
balmy kindle
With the 8% aura buff, do you guys think that arms will be better than fury in M...
Doubt but I think big pulls Colo can be quite devastating
Boss damage is a problem but it's not like Thane has godly ST
hasty pumice
Yeah I'm just wondering, I just love the huge burst from arms
It feels much more fitting to M+ than constant DPS
Fury Thane also feels a bit weird where you're basically just fishing for blast procs
oblique lodge
That's with BL and Phys comp
i can agree on that math , tho i never tried slayer 4p in m+ , thane feels much better with the procs
hasty pumice
I didn't get 4p set yet cause I trialed in a new mythic guild, so no loot for me this week
Slayer without the 4p is way better in M+
oblique lodge
Slayer without the 4p is way better in M+
yes it is
hasty pumice
I'll likely just copy farover's choice
Cause NGL I don't know if huge burst on big packs is more weighed than extra boss damage or what not. Also comp dependant but yk
oblique lodge
4p thane feels so nice tbh , 3-4 procs one after the other are so satisfyng
balmy kindle
Honestly this season it can differ from key to key I feel
hasty pumice
I hope you're right, without it felt like "oh you got the triple bloodthirst proc but 0 thunder blast, too bad, shit DPS"
balmy kindle
Like streets seems boss heavy but you really need aoe as well or the thrash takes forever
hasty pumice
Like streets seems boss heavy but you really need aoe as well or the thrash take...
We love 5 bosses
But yeah good point
balmy kindle
hope there's more after 8 %
dim basalt
Just be a WW enjoyer like me
balmy kindle
I wanna play Colo
hasty pumice
Same, but NGL I am not sure how I feel about skull basher
I only played arms last season and loved the shit out of it, had to stop pushing keys towards the end of the season to not burn me out by accident
balmy kindle
I haven tried skull splitter TBF, still using the no execute build from s2 just with Dreadnaught
hasty pumice
But I don't have a keybind for it and 21 second CD doesn't really align with shit
And on top of that it also forces you to press rend / clap more often
hasty pumice
I haven tried skull splitter TBF, still using the no execute build from s2 just ...
It's so weird how dogshit execute is on colossus, I hate it even as a filler cause when I'm filling I want overpower procs
And then it's just a slightly stronger filler than slam for 20 extra rage
balmy kindle
Ik, you only press it on filler
I don't like it as well but you know blizz being blizz
oblique lodge
I wanna play Colo
same
hasty pumice
So how do you actually play with skull basher in aoe? In ST you can press it off cd or I guess whenever you get the set bonus proc
But on aoe do you just wait for sweeping strikes?
balmy kindle
Battelord needs to be like baseline or takable as well without sacking the tree
In m+ I think the gain for taking sks is likely quite minimal
In raid I reckon you would just use it on cd (idk honestly)
hasty pumice
It's a slight dps loss in aoe pulls compared to 5% bleed damage, but ~2% in ST from my sims
balmy kindle
It's likely a loss in aoe since u are using a GCD for sks instead of cleave or ms
But ST I don't know myself, have to try once I get that 4 P
hasty pumice
Also psure arms just won't be played for the raid if I had to guess
Fury feels pretty good on most bosses, even with cleaving
hasty pumice
But ST I don't know myself, have to try once I get that 4 P
Next week 🙏
I'm just confused what I'd like to play more
I do think fury Thane is my least favourite option but still fun
balmy kindle
Slayer fury kinda looks rad imo, insane uptime on bladestorms
Arms kinda nice too but our BS is bad
hasty pumice
Yeah, you get to use bladestorm 3-4 times until your next avatar is up
But it doesn't have huge aoe mob burst
The constant DPS is insane tho, even without my 2p / 4p I'm often very high on bosses, especially if they have something to cleave off of
Lmao he just said what I thought
In fury
Give us another bladestorm buff and I'm pretty sure slayer would always be best
balmy kindle
I would think slayer is stronger though, funnel dmg is good
hasty pumice
It definitely deals a lot better with prio targets
balmy kindle
Like alot of classes can do thrash aoe but in higher keys u really wanna kill 1 mob faster
hasty pumice
The prio target damage seems really high to me
Yeah I'm really curious what farover will push with after the buffs
He also didn't get 4p yet
balmy kindle
Slayer even on 2p for me now as arms does pretty ok dmg
It's good enough to keep up , at least not completely useless in bosses
balmy kindle
There's the no rend build that's kinda good
hasty pumice
6 second bladestorm to just vibe
balmy kindle
It's just our bladestorm is not as good as furys
But everything else is comparable. Slayer strikes have really high uptime with the 2p as well
weak wave
Where is Execute in the prio with Slayer 4p?
balmy kindle
I think u still try to use it on 2-3 marks ?
hasty pumice
I think its the highest GCD as long as you are enraged and have 2+ stacks
hasty pumice
I think u still try to use it on 2-3 marks ?
Ye
Obviously in aoe whirlwind stacks > enrage and then execute
balmy kindle
I don't even have a tracker just go by Audio cue
hasty pumice
balmy kindle
But on arms in m+ maybe more value in using ms or cleave and op for reap procs
hasty pumice
I don't even have a tracker just go by Audio cue <:keks:936231610850897992>
I don't even have an audio pop, I just look at my WA
Idk why but audio pops irritate the shit out of me for my rotation
Stfu and let me focus on mechs and my WA
hasty pumice
I just press it for fun sometimes if it's on 100% or I want to extend the enrage to not waste WW stacks
But yeah fury slayer doesn't wanna press it, though the prio list doesn't mention 100% crit BTs
And on Thane you always press it whenever you're enraged, got cleave stacks and no blast
It feels so dumb to spam bloodthirst
balmy kindle
Yeah cause Thane wants to fish for blast procs
hasty pumice
Also I hate how useless roar is in ST
Like during raids on ST it's one of the lowest priority things to click
So you just never click it realistically on ST
candid pecan
Also I hate how useless roar is in ST
I use pain and gain instead of roar as fury in keys
hasty pumice
I mean roar in aoe does some more damage, but in ST it's so bad
And pain and gain is really bad too in raid
Also give fury the knock up shockwave from colossus pls
One of the reasons why I wanna play arms, too, knock up shockwave >>>> stun
bleak jasper
bleak jasper
balmy kindle
https://tenor.com/view/pogostick-pogo-stick-def-jam-fight-for-new-york-waffle-ho...
Lmao this game
hasty pumice
fury? in my <#148898720803586048> ?
I shall not sin again
iron robin
How arms is feeling rn
hasty pumice
How arms is feeling rn
Based
fresh spire
oblique lodge
https://i.imgflip.com/a389n4.gif
had to post it in ret channel
oblique lodge
And we didn't shut down our discord to get it.
fr bro , such snowflakes..
icy mulch
You just kicked a hornets nest didn't you? Lol, I can hear the screams of their brotherhood now.
Meanwhile, warlocks are just feasting.
vapid goblet
Meanwhile, warlocks are just feasting.
every tier
fresh spire
Were likely atill worse than ret is too
dusty summit
granite coral
One of the reasons why I wanna play arms, too, knock up shockwave >>>> stun
Does the knock up still work though if they are on stub DR? Or did they fix that this season
hasty pumice
Does the knock up still work though if they are on stub DR? Or did they fix that...
Knock up always works even if stun is immuned
That's why I liked it in S2
granite coral
Hmm I could have sworn I saw immune pop up sometimes in S2
But yes it’s a really good talent for keys
hasty pumice
The stun afterwards is immuned
But the knock up shouldn't be. Unless a mob is immune to cc
dim basalt
yeah knockups cant be immuned unless the mob is immune to cc in general
Thats why its the best cc in the game
radiant dawn
I shall not sin again
you're lucky we don't force you to do 8 keys as ret paladin
radiant dawn
that's why it's a punishment
stupid dog shit dev won't fix the most mistreated class in the game
retribution paladin
marsh thicket
hello friends in arms o/
hasty pumice
retribution paladin
Retribution paladin but the name is being misused and should be clown paladin
radiant dawn
lmao
marsh thicket
execute only buffs MS correct?
cunning comet
Retribution paladin but the name is being misused and should be clown paladin
@boreal quartz what the FUVCK
radiant dawn
execute only buffs MS correct?
execs precision when talented yep
hasty pumice
I mean my name's Phillip, I have just been dubbed philliam cause I'm a fucking idiot
Says a lot about your friend
hasty pumice
bro has to remind himself that he is phil
Playing fury does that to you
halcyon valve
The more stupid, the better the warrior
hasty pumice
I mean rampage isn't that important anymore compared to dragonflight
hasty pumice
When do we make warrior as stupid as Ret paladin?
radiant dawn
I only play arms and prot
halcyon valve
I only play arms and prot
Based
radiant dawn
Not that I have anything against fury besides shitposting
They're my number one enemy until we both need buffs then they're my greatest ally
halcyon valve
Its a gimli and legolas type situation
fresh spire
👍
signal oak
vast glacier
oblique lodge
When do we make warrior as stupid as Ret paladin?
pls no , they a special type of breed
vast glacier
At the end of df, i was hyped for colossus Arms to be a funny strong raid Spec.
boreal quartz
your name is philiam
It's ok he spelt his name wrong
hasty pumice
It's ok he spelt his name wrong
Actually you spelt it incorrectly
boreal quartz
Psure 1 L is the older variant
boreal quartz
Back in my day it was Philipp <:Rampage:592471610536099840>
Which is how im spelled
(the correct way)
hasty pumice
(the correct way)
Tbf almost everybody spells my name incorrectly, I always get Philip or philipp
Never Phillip
boreal quartz
As long as it's not F
hasty pumice
I do know a filip
hasty pumice
He's the real warrior prodigy
The more you vary from the actual Philipp spelling, the better you become
It's one of the many rules in life, you should know
vast glacier
Is there a way to reach Out to the all mighty class Designer and present a Community advice to fix the class ?
viscid grail
Is there a way to reach Out to the all mighty class Designer and present a Commu...
They're being held captive by the ret discord
vast glacier
Rough
vast glacier
Yes
We all know, this is a alibi buff for not overthrowing rtwf
And after the buff, there may be tuning
slow saddle
Arms is fine now
From a tuning perspectivr
Raid does seem so far to be ruled by rangw
hasty pumice
@boreal quartz
oblique lodge
Hey pphillipp
hasty pumice
Oi
ebon hollow
hey guys i was wondering if the arms buff is updated in raidbots already, bc i was simming quite similar to fury
oblique lodge
hey guys i was wondering if the arms buff is updated in raidbots already, bc i w...
arms buff is on 19th
ebon hollow
arms buff is on 19th
yea but is it updated on raidbots? i sim 4m on arms and fury 4.1m that has to be the buff included right?
summer elbow
If i can reach good overalls with arms slayer i will be happy