arms

[fresh sundial]

try on dummy, 7 hits with ss and demolish

[rapid bronze]

man I only managed to get over 4m on soul hunters

and it was normal

though tbf to me I was using a season 2 weapon still

[bitter escarp]

I want to run cleave only on soul hunters its so funny spamming cleave

but three target uptime with monkey positioning is difficult

[shadow ibex]

Should be 6 not 7. 2x2 first hits sweeping

[rapid bronze]

I was fueled by wanting to kill demon hunters more than anything

[shadow ibex]

And 2x1 from big hit not sweeping

On 2 target i mean

[rapid bronze]

man I tried playing fury a bit with 2pc x 2pc in some keys last night and it felt like complete ass on any pull with more than 5 enemies

[shadow ibex]

Both feel awful until 4pc imo

[rapid bronze]

colossus feels ok with 2pc, rotation is more engaging and it does decent damage even though you'll still lag behind competent players

and you can get some really big numbers on big pulls

oh although yesterday I did a gambit key with a fire mage who absolutely dumpstered everyone in overall and boss damage

weren't they sandbagging saying they were unplayable?

[shadow ibex]

I just got last piece I needed from 10s so I might stop sending fury

Finally looted fuckin floodgate pants

I could use hall of aton neck but like .4% and thats biggest upgrade atp

[dreamy egret]

now I just need a hero track weapon till tuesday when I craft / get one in vault lol

[bitter escarp]

W

[rapid bronze]

I got a weapon finally from a 10 priory last night

[brisk bridge]

Is it worthwhile to upragde my heroic weapon with gilded crests when u can craft a 2 hander next reset?

[rapid bronze]

dont spend gilded crests on it

just upgrade to 3/6 heroic

[brisk bridge]

ok roger

what did u guys do with your gilded this week?

[rapid bronze]

nothing most likely lol

ideally want to save it for myth track upgrade + weapon craft next week

[brisk bridge]

ok so just like last season

thanks

[dreamy egret]

then next week upgrade hero tier to myth track for apperances 😄

[shadow ibex]

Got maw of void from king last night

Free 710 was huge. 0 crests

My trinkets kinda meh but I have a lot of options at least

[rapid bronze]

yeah I'm hoping for another heroic trinket so I can get some free upgrades. I got that warpclaw one from ecodome but the screams trinket and idol I have are both champion track

I'm traveling for 4 days so can't play, from tomorrow till thursday, just need 1 more 10 for a full myth track vault ;_;

[shadow ibex]

im using normal mode from first boss and 697 hero ticking sack thing from streets in raid

[dreamy egret]

they are being classist to me I cant get into any ecodomes -.-

[shadow ibex]

for m+ im using a crit + str proc heroic from ulduar TW

and the secret technique

[rapid bronze]

didn't they nerf that?

[heavy patio]

yup

[shadow ibex]

it still sims best

for me

[rapid bronze]

screams is nice but it really varies wildly between keys

sometimes it'll do like 6% of my damage and then other keys it'll do 3%

it's definitely stronger in raid because of the longer fights proccing more comets

[shadow ibex]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/oSot9eawf1NFXQHbGkzVpv is my arms before maw of void

havent checked since before raid

[thick kelp]

its a ramping trinket

So it needs longer pulls to start doing dam

[shadow ibex]

i still gotta do some tw to try and get a NM screams

from the cache

[rapid bronze]

man the heroic trinket from sentinel dropped immediately after I got screams but came in second on the roll to the DK ;_;

[shadow ibex]

i got NM 1 so didnt get the hero

idt its good for many anyway

think it went to tank

[rapid bronze]

I'd rather have antenna or idol but it was right there

[shadow ibex]

thats how i felt

[rapid bronze]

even champ idol feels good to use if not for the annoying cast

[shadow ibex]

and its fine enough w/e it has main stat

and its kinda funny seeing him run up and blast stuff

[rapid bronze]

but actually the cast on idol is relatively useful since you can do it while running away from swirlies

[shadow ibex]

do u auto during it

[rapid bronze]

im not sure but you can even cast it while charging

so I assume yes

[dreamy egret]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3Bexwpe2uHUo8w9fbkQS1A

that myth jastor really beats the piss out of mine :-p

[rapid bronze]

oh I'm excited I can finally drop my heroic jastor https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/nyG6s5CDBCczpL57NquLdP

[steep citrus]

the memes make themselves

[rapid bronze]

lel

[steep citrus]

@gloomy mirage whats up with that

[shadow ibex]

jastor is crazy yea

[dreamy egret]

cant get into a single fucking key brutal lol

wut lol

not every ones killed him yet on normal ? lol

[rapid bronze]

just get your key to a 10 and post it, you'll instantly get a dozen full-stack groups applying

other than streets it's very difficult to deplete a 10 without the entire group inting every boss

nobody is going to invite arms warriors this week given the rankings and perception so you have to form your own groups. I'm like rank 7 on stormrage at 2100 io and I'm trash

[wicked aurora]

HoA is also kinda easy to deplete imo

But that’s down to tanks not knowing how to route/not knowing that the dungeon requires mega trash

[shadow ibex]

so much trash

[spiral coral]

LOL TOMMYYYY YOU THE MAN FOR THIS

[shadow ibex]

and i swear dide

the stupid miniboss b4 final

i dont think anyone in wow understands how that thing works

[spiral coral]

I was talking shit saying I was gonna parse arms…. Yeah no, prot here I come

[minor gust]

More like there's prob only 20 arms players

[rapid bronze]

you can lust the miniboss but even on a 10 he doesn't get through his 3rd heal

halls is my favorite dungeon to watch a new tank panic when nobody interrupts the loyal beasts cast

[dreamy egret]

.....

[shadow ibex]

i hate those mobs

they have their cast avaliable to cast

and just keep shooting

so do i hold kick or kick or kick these 90 bolts

i fuckin hate halls lmao

[primal dune]

you guys wappnig to cleave talents for soulbinder on omega?

[rapid bronze]

the SL dungeons were great with the tools you had at the time. Halls with gavel, ancient aftershock, and the CDR affix mob was one of the most fun dungeons I played

streets was a lot less of a pain in the ass with the stealth and cdr affixes

now it just feels grueling

[shadow ibex]

i hate 5 boss dungeons

• the minibosses

[summer elbow]

hey guys are we looking forward this season? are we that behind fury?

[thick kelp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898720803586048/1405812330574647367/arms_deadge.gif

https://i.imgflip.com/a2lrdf.gif

https://i.imgflip.com/a2hzx9.gif

[summer elbow]

I wanna keep the dream alive and reach 3K as arms

[sacred zodiac]

you can hit 3k without really trying ngl

[thick kelp]

Doable 👍

You can hit 3k by using one button macro and being tank dmg in every key

[shadow ibex]

you can buy title

[fathom hedge]

Is it just the #s are bad or is the rotation messy?

Thinking about coming back from a wow break, only really play ARMS. I don't need to be top preformer just want to have fun.

[thick kelp]

Might be one of the most unfun variations of this Spec in the history of WoW

Competing with CN and early WoD

[sacred zodiac]

if you're just here to have fun you'll be fine, lots of sudden death to press with 4p

but ye its not rosy

[fathom hedge]

Is it that the burst windows don't line up nicley?

(going to check the rotaiton out on wow head)

[thick kelp]

They dont lineup, your opener is like playing piano, your damage is bland, bladestorm feels sluggish if you played even one fight as fury slayer etc

[sacred zodiac]

lmao

its week 1 meters not entirely real tbf

[shadow ibex]

i hate that busrt of power feels good

have we ever had an entire class at top?

[rapid bronze]

warlock lol

[gloomy mirage]

hey walhe

[thick kelp]

Hey Jackie

[gloomy mirage]

should i play arms

[thick kelp]

Certainly

[gloomy mirage]

ty walhe

[thick kelp]

you are welcome jaki

[slow saddle]

I mean its indicative of a good dmg profile for.hc

[shadow ibex]

dance of death is indicative of a good dmg profile

classes with dance of death do a lot of dam, classes without do bad dam

[vast helm]

F

[spiral coral]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-gif-545414553156393225

[shadow ibex]

almost replacing jastor with 697 hast/mast ring

[silk breach]

Saw the Ret pally drama, and just wanted to check in on you all ❤️

[unkempt wren]

we are immune. too much zugging to do to cry

[silk breach]

https://tenor.com/view/beat-chest-bro-max-greenfield-new-girl-schmidt-gif-6481396707897306285

zug zug

[eternal saddle]

there is no crying, only zug

[jade ember]

I'm just glad, that stuff made us look so hinged by comparison..

[eternal saddle]

the ret drama is genuinely so funny

[jade ember]

Not part of an Exodia comp launch the nukes

[pearl wind]

me not that kind of orc

[eternal saddle]

Warrior dps out here like "y'all get to be meta?"

[shadow ibex]

ret pallys never beating the allegations

that set them back like 25 years

[jade ember]

Ret the new Hunter fr fr

[flat willow]

don't insult hunters

I don't remember hunters ever shitting their pants like ret paladins

[dreamy egret]

well hopefully they do do a tuning pass because being on the bottom stinks, but it doesnt look too bad only an 8

[eternal saddle]

yeah hunters accept what they're given for the most part

ret paladins can't handle not being blizzard's golden child for a week

[dreamy egret]

surv is op rn

[bleak talon]

worth taking from vault?

[dreamy egret]

if not tier then yeah I spose

[still rose]

someone has a good battleshoud WA?

[shrewd fox]

For what, exactly? To make sure you have the buff on yourself? Class weakauras like luxthos or afenar have that included.

[still rose]

need seperate aura

[pearl wind]

coddled babies, the tantrum is not a good look for the Ret Pally Brand™

[stable fiber]

They are always top 3 once the .5 patch hits

Been like that for awhile

[pearl wind]

they also hyperdunk in lower keys since they have instant startup and burst every 30 seconds

plus it's super easy

so you always actually execute the rotation well

[latent moss]

ure playing with people that have no arms im afraid

[stable fiber]

I think arms m+ is better than fury before tier sets

[thick kelp]

its an 8

those guys are playing s2 0pc s3 0pc

prolly

🗂️

[stable fiber]

Fury thane feels incomplete without tier set

Compared to ptr

[latent moss]

➗

👑

[glacial rapids]

Yeah and then hyper sink on any single target boss.

[pearl wind]

that's true, their builds have a lot of tradeoff between ST and AOE

[potent walrus]

That feeling when the useless undergeared tank and dog shit dps get the sacbrood m+ trink and you get nothing.....

[weak wave]

Bake it into your mount button.

[spiral coral]

https://tenor.com/view/willy-wonka-and-the-chocolate-factory-gene-wilder-willy-wonka-you-get-nothing-nothing-gif-5432076

[thick kelp]

Skill issue

Clearly not the dog shit dps if he can loot the ara kara trink

[floral ledge]

https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/3HSJfv5kbpXVnJfHtKEz6g im sorry but where did u see the 4% gain with 2p2p

its 0.6% for me

[orchid pulsar]

Arms good again?

I keep holding the line but everyone tells me to go Fury

[sharp wyvern]

[civic path]

good one

[edgy solstice]

yes arms cranks

[spring rune]

Why is that patchwerk 7m? isn't it usually 5m standard?

[vast helm]

what happened with Ret pala discord?

[eternal saddle]

the admin of the ret section is crashing out that ret isn't blizzard's golden child

so they locked the ret channels

[cyan dew]

DIVA

[sharp wyvern]

basically imagine if mods would lock the arms channel cause arms is bad
thats what ret discord is doig

ngl if ret gets buffed because of this this discord HAS to do it too

[eternal saddle]

based

but also blizzard will just ignore us

[grand bough]

for the life of me i dont understand why blizz have done nothing about arms?

[vast helm]

Still too young and too low in stress resistance

[sharp wyvern]

cause they are cooking

[vast helm]

look at us

[spring rune]

the hopium is they have grander changes

[flat willow]

well basically it's cuz they don't give a shit about arms

[grand bough]

maybe a wee rework?

[flat willow]

only been waiting for a rework since bfa

what's 7 more years

[dreamy spire]

what would you do?

Crafting 720 2handaxe for 8,3% more dps or crafting my Bis bracers on 720 and useing my bis m+ weapon on 710?

I mean i dont raid mythic, so i never get mythtrack raidweapons, so i have to gamble for mythtrack vault weapon. Not sure what i should do. Because in the end i want a mytchtrack weapon anyway, so maybe its wasted to craft a 720 weapon now an di should focus on ym bis craftings.

[flat willow]

craft weapon

[cyan dew]

I see every other dps spec in the game in the A and B tier, and arms is the only one in C with no one below us. But I definitely feel stronk

[vast helm]

so true

[vast helm]

and it was very funny that they nerfed Arms tier-set while in PTR，i dont even know what were they testing?

[glacial rapids]

is there a link or pin somehwere for simming stats on a crafted gear? I know the hunter discord use to have one

[shadow ibex]

they couldnt nerf the prot set seperate

[vast helm]

https://tenor.com/view/rodney-dangerfield-caddyshack-gif-7613291575117934337

[shadow ibex]

so anyway a few weeks later they only nerfed the prot set for thane

[shadow ibex]

the ilvl will make it bigger as well ig

but yes just the effet isnt amazing

[rocky kelp]

Warrior

Arms
    All damage dealt increased by 8%. Does not apply to PvP combat.

[misty sandal]

[shadow ibex]

it needs more than 8

[rocky kelp]

of course it does

[void bay]

8.1

[shadow ibex]

ahahahaha

ret buffs

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

[bitter escarp]

did someone say ret buffs?

[hexed saddle]

not like they dont deserve it lol

[dreamy sandal]

https://i.imgflip.com/a2lrdf.gif

[shadow ibex]

just bitch and moan and your class will get buffed

[hot current]

only 8%

wow

[halcyon valve]

8% is good

[fresh spire]

we're so maybe back

[halcyon valve]

Boring but good

[twin quarry]

so back (still not playing warrior)

[shadow ibex]

that sets such a terrible precedent

[candid pecan]

hmmmm

[shadow ibex]

rets deleted their channels and got 5% like

[candid pecan]

HMMMMMM

[sour forge]

Arms is back

[shadow ibex]

that's such a bad look

[candid pecan]

is it good is it not?

[sour forge]

All you guys needed was 8% right

[arctic iris]

The timeline is too short, there's no way they were responding to that

[shadow ibex]

regardless, the optics

[arctic iris]

Idea: add discord integration to WoW. Ret paladins only get the damage buff if they aren't in the paladin discord

[shadow ibex]

how it looks is going to matter far more

[dense vector]

Maybe 80

[plucky mortar]

Can we shut down our discord now?

[wispy escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/harrypotter-dobbie-elf-houseelf-magic-gif-2629199419811159219

[halcyon valve]

Nobody cares about some 100k ish member discord server

[sour forge]

Nah Colo aoe is fine

[rare kite]

wow expected 3%

[sour forge]

Yall just need st

[shadow ibex]

its been posted all over every wow social circle lol

[vernal compass]

Are we back on the menu??

[hexed turret]

soooo shitposting in your channel gets an 8% buff, and deleting a channel gets 5%...good to know for next time!

[candid pecan]

all DMG not all ability

[shadow ibex]

every other class discord obv cares

[candid pecan]

so is it literally times 1.08?

[shadow ibex]

since its been memed and posted to

[halcyon valve]

Yeah because its funny
But it has no weight

[shadow ibex]

im not saying they did it in response im saying the optics are dumb

[vernal compass]

What do we think, better than Fury now? /fingerscrossed

[frank cipher]

Nah

still 4-5% behind and arms still blows to play compared to MT or Slayer fury

[sharp wyvern]

the rets won

can we do the same thing now

to get arms buffed ?

[latent moss]

still behind fury btw

on st

[gusty oxide]

8% will get us to the middle of the pack

[iron goblet]

you might be on to something

[hexed turret]

what we did got us 3 more %

[sharp wyvern]

[vernal compass]

/cry. I want to play Arms but we're pushing hard prog so I have to stay Fury till Arms is better 🙁

[nimble badger]

😂

[shadow ibex]

useful when youre 4% behind everyone

[zealous flume]

bigger buff than ret, lets go

[flat willow]

Blizzard must make a difficult choice now

Buff ret and everyone will know being a bitch is how you get buffed

[latent moss]

so never

[pearl wind]

link?

[fossil thistle]

WE ARE SO BACK BOYS

[flat willow]

Do nothing and the balance of the game sucks

[zealous flume]

8% is like a 5.6? ish sim? still a good deal behind fury but might see play on damage amp bosses. im mostly curious how far off its from being good in keys

[fossil thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/wedding-crasher-hro-gif-25636997

[flat willow]

OR the secret third option to nerf ret to teach them a lesson

[tawdry barn]

guys what do you think, will the 8% be enough to make m+ arms competitive to fury?

[pearl wind]

probably yea

[latent moss]

in aoe yes in st no

[sour forge]

Colo st is stinky

[latent moss]

colo st is atrocious

[dreamy sandal]

In aoe yeah prob about the same now, ST is still way worse

[slow saddle]

8%

[pearl wind]

anyone got a link to the patch notes source

[sour forge]

Hard to beat fury on m+ st

[pearl wind]

cant find it on wowhead

[zealous flume]

not going partynode over 5.6 sim in a spec that struggles with cleave

[sour forge]

#news

[pearl wind]

ty

[vestal loom]

8% boys

[slow saddle]

8% now gief another 8 or 9%

Just for raid😅

[zealous flume]

if they add another 5-8% again and it hits a 6mil sim in ST spec, then we start talking

[boreal quartz]

8% of 0 is 0

[sharp wyvern]

so arms gonna be ahead of fury in m+ now

colossus is back

[uncut wigeon]

no

[slow saddle]

No and no

[flat willow]

Maybe by padding

[zealous flume]

5.6M in FULL st spec is still meh

[sharp wyvern]

werent the sims realy close

[latent moss]

still behind fury on st
squishier
cannot talent into aoe
just as flat damage profile

[slow saddle]

Col would need a targeted ms buff

[latent moss]

idk slayer arms still deadge

if u care about not trolling

[slow saddle]

This

I do

[zealous flume]

8% again and it starts entering workable territory

[latent moss]

colo needs a large st buff

[slow saddle]

If dmg is equal. Its still troll

[latent moss]

targeted st buff

[slow saddle]

Fury is tankier

[latent moss]

colo aoe is nothing special anyway

[dreamy sandal]

The Ret discord is doubling down, this is pure cinema

[zealous flume]

the damage isnt equal

[hexed turret]

fury still better

[bold granite]

https://i.imgflip.com/a1vjj2.gif

[zealous flume]

fury is 300k ahead ST, and barely loses ST dmge when going for raid cleave

[candid pecan]

https://i.imgflip.com/a2hzx9.gif

[ivory quartz]

Guys terrorism works, we know what to do

[hexed turret]

i dont think blizzard would want to overbuff a spec so it switches though

[ivory quartz]

Shut it down

[shell musk]

Better interaction with target caps though on big pulls

[zealous flume]

300k ahead AFTER this 8% buff

[slow saddle]

300k after buffs i presume

[zealous flume]

yeah

[shell musk]

Fury target cap sucks so hard

[hexed turret]

[slow saddle]

No

[sour forge]

It’s really not that bad this season

[dreamy sandal]

It really does

[zealous flume]

once you get 4set it feels fine

[dreamy sandal]

but its ok this season

[slow saddle]

Its irrelavant as it always was

[mortal crag]

arms should go on strike

make it double digits

[zealous flume]

before that it feels ass

[slow saddle]

I want warlock nerds

Nerfs

[sour forge]

2p fury good

[shell musk]

Sure until a boomkin does double your damage on a big pull with starfall

[slow saddle]

More than buffs to war

[sour forge]

Slayer in keys is actually good

[bold granite]

https://i.imgflip.com/a1vjj2.gif

[mortal crag]

still 0p btw

[slow saddle]

Then u bad

[sour forge]

And then you gap them overall cause fury has no cds

[bitter escarp]

wait if ret wants 10 shouldnt we want 16?

[prime thicket]

bro they had only 1 shit to do and it was to not buff ret for ONCE in 15years

[mortal crag]

[zealous flume]

with arms damage profile it "should" actually approach a 6m st sim, so, blizzard, lock the fuck in and double that buff

[mortal crag]

arms needs to own in ST and be bad for aoe

end of story

it makes the most sense

[dreamy sandal]

There is no Thanes out there doing 30 mil in a pack (Altough our overall dmg is significantly more competetive now)

[shadow ibex]

you can be meh at both

[mortal crag]

yeah but then it aint as fun

arms needs to fucking own ST

and be bad at aoe

[latent moss]

just give arms funnel

and st

[mortal crag]

i stand on this hill

no thats not the same as st

funnel isnt st

[boreal quartz]

PRESS N AND UNEQUIP SLOT 17

[shadow ibex]

then u gonna need more than 8%

[latent moss]

funnel and st

[slow saddle]

Man so u wanna do the same dmg with cds twice as often?

[latent moss]

is what i said

not just funnel

[faint storm]

Is Arms still going to be bad with the buff we are getting? should i hide the arms channel again

[latent moss]

obv its not the same

[pearl wind]

i need the mortal strike and execute crits to be so chunky it gives me that stank face

[mortal crag]

huh

N is talents

[latent moss]

assa has funnel and like the worst st

[mortal crag]

[latent moss]

in m+

[mortal crag]

yeah

[dreamy sandal]

bro fdks have 1 min cds

[mortal crag]

thats fair

funnel + bad st > good st

[pearl wind]

ya its still gonna be bad

[mortal crag]

is fair

but having GOOD Pure st + FUNNEL

[faint storm]

🙁

[mortal crag]

is braindead

[boreal quartz]

@thick kelp brickshitter tmog

[slow saddle]

Like fdk

[shadow ibex]

im like 10% behind my fury sim as arms

[boreal quartz]

then click to arms

sir

[viral garden]

8% arms 😮

[latent moss]

gotta make up for low aoe

[shadow ibex]

probably like 12%

[mortal crag]

u dont need to be great at both

[night mulch]

"No lowball offers" 🔥 lmao ret

[mortal crag]

legit

braindead players

[dreamy sandal]

Legit just slap a 20% buff on mortal strike and call it a day

[sand kettle]

Is that arms warrior enough to compete with fury?

[hasty vault]

we're fixed boyz. pack away the memes. tuna is back on the menu

[tacit crystal]

nope

spec still dead

[dreamy sandal]

Looking forward to our rework in Midnight

[eternal vortex]

idk if 8% is still enough

but better than nothing

[night mulch]

Arms ST Colo is 🐶

[pearl wind]

this.

[bold granite]

Reminder

https://i.imgflip.com/a1vjj2.gif

[candid pecan]

I think prot thane has better ST.

[dreamy sandal]

https://i.imgflip.com/a1vjj2.gif

[slow saddle]

Rebuff colo tier

To 100%

[tired pilot]

we must

[tired pilot]

continue to ban together

[bold granite]

8% further in the grave

[shadow ibex]

my colo sim st is last tier numbers

[night mulch]

No surprises

[shadow ibex]

lmao

[tired pilot]

and strive for more buffs

my arms brothers

[bold granite]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898720803586048/1406030292736676001/arms_deadge.gif

[tired pilot]

join us in the light

[bitter escarp]

16

[dreamy sandal]

https://i.imgflip.com/a2lrdf.gif

[tired pilot]

and lock down your channel

[candid pecan]

https://i.imgflip.com/a2hzx9.gif

[bold granite]

this is class consciousness

[shadow ibex]

yea can we lock down our channel

[dull basin]

I came here just to see the chat xD

[flat willow]

Good Idea

It worked for ret

[shadow ibex]

fuck it im on board now

[dull basin]

assuming you all saw the buff

[bold granite]

archi lock this shit

we going on strike

[bitter escarp]

Double all buffs and nerfs

[bold granite]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898720803586048/1406030292736676001/arms_deadge.gif

[bitter escarp]

stand with ret

[latent hull]

chatt

how big are these buffs

[flat willow]

Revert the ret buffs

[vast helm]

https://www.wowhead.com/news/retribution-paladin-buffs-and-affliction-warlock-nerfs-incoming-upcoming-class-378186

[dull basin]

8% to everything

[vast helm]

What?

[azure karma]

literally 8%

[sour forge]

8%

[steep osprey]

8% big

[flat willow]

They deserve to be shit for the rest of the expansion

[latent hull]

yeah but where does that put us

onn the meters

[flat willow]

Let them suffer

[latent hull]

we were last

right

[bold granite]

give us the ret buffs

[sour forge]

2 spots higher maybe

[bold granite]

as well

[dull basin]

like same as furyish

[sour forge]

Arms still down bad

[bitter escarp]

8+5=13

[shadow ibex]

all the other bad ones got buffed too

so the floor just moved up

[bold granite]

8% is basically a nerf

[tired pilot]

overal

movement isnt ochanged

floor just went up

[dull basin]

little less the fury still probs

[bold granite]

floor going up hurts me, im too tall

[tired pilot]

probably better than fire less better than ret

[steep osprey]

Floor going up is a good thing

[shadow ibex]

my fury is like 12% ahead

[plucky mortar]

Is it true the ret discord is still refusing to open thinking their protest got their buffs?

Just saw a reddit post

[bitter escarp]

They want to double the buffs

[steep osprey]

I’m pretty sure the protest didn’t get them buffs

This was coming anyway

[shadow ibex]

its really just awful optics

[pearl wind]

im sure it did not affect the decision

[flat willow]

No way

[pearl wind]

it truly is awful optics

[plucky mortar]

Lmao

[shadow ibex]

it didnt but its just horrible timing

[pearl wind]

for the Ret Community

[bold granite]

lock it down

[pearl wind]

hilarious the number of clown reacts

[bold granite]

you probably also believe in voting harder

[pearl wind]

im gonna vooooote

[vague ore]

uses wrong we're too, what a drooler

[steep osprey]

The what

[shadow ibex]

its funny that 8% isnt even enough lol

double it and we can play this in raid

[bitter escarp]

WE NEEED 16

[steep osprey]

Maybe not but there’s gonna be more buffs eventually

[frosty pike]

i think you guys vastly overestimate the amount of people actively reading class discords, nevermind keeping up with hotfixes based on what is posted on them lol

[slender urchin]

make it 30%

[latent hull]

guys i think we need to shut down the channels aswell

[dry frost]

true

[bold granite]

double it and we can start negotiating

[latent hull]

maybe then blizz will hear us

[vast helm]

The Worst RWF Class blance ever

[pearl wind]

8% + 25% mortal strike buff + 10% execute or some combination therein

[latent moss]

doubt they want arms>fury since they know the majority of the warrior playerbase doesnt want to touch slayer arms

[sour forge]

Def needs ms buff

[steep osprey]

That’s not how it works

[pearl wind]

i wanna touch slayer arms

[sour forge]

Or maybe make demolish do more dmg to st

[latent moss]

they want to keep engagement up

[pearl wind]

i want beeg execute

[slow saddle]

Solution buff colo st a lot

[latent moss]

if u are forcing people to play a spec that objectively plays much worse

[sour forge]

Colo doesn’t use exe

[zealous flume]

300k less, so, significantly, considering arms doesnt cleave as well

[sour forge]

Maybe slayer sure

[latent moss]

yes

keep slayer arms playable but bit behind

[boreal zealot]

Mech warrior in HS is kinda fun so start a strike here till WoW warrior gets to fight in mecha suit

[slow saddle]

Agreed

[shadow ibex]

this shit is still cooked lol

[candid pecan]

I dont think they buffed ret by 5% because they decided to shutdown the channel on discord nor that they posted it to reddit, blizz just buffed specs which were under aug

[pearl wind]

correct imo

[frosty pike]

why wouldnt people want to play slayer arms? its the lowest button spec and you spin a lot

[onyx sierra]

i want to laugh react but i cannot

[frosty pike]

just buff sudden death procs so i dont have to sit on my hands to extend juggernaught every 14 seconds

[shadow ibex]

because we've played it for 3 tiers and the playstyle is awful

[vague ore]

pressing slam 5 times is fun wym

[onyx sierra]

you're saying i can't play wc3 blademaster?

[hexed turret]

dont tell them that

[boreal zealot]

bring back codemn

[frosty pike]

i dunno i dont have the rotation issues with slayer people talk about

[boreal zealot]

condemn. codemn

[frosty pike]

its like a slam every now and then

[rare kite]

coz jugg sucks ass and ruins the entire spec

[frosty pike]

and every other fight i get cucked by juiggernaught

[slow saddle]

This

[frosty pike]

yeah i agree remove/change jugg but other than that i like the style

[slow saddle]

Juggernaut sillyness

[shadow ibex]

it slams a lot still

[slow saddle]

Nah slam is fine

[frosty pike]

OR if they uncap thunderclap bleeds im fine with playing colo

[shadow ibex]

i dont think casts of slam went down at all

tbh

even tho they should have in theory

since more SD procs

but no the playstyle is largely the same

[karmic jewel]

are they still ass with the buffs?

[vale gorge]

So God exist

[bitter escarp]

yes

amen

[shadow ibex]

the discourse around the et shit is going to be around forever

[boreal zealot]

does arms do awful with one button rotation? cos i wanna be lazy and blame blizz if numbers are low

[pearl wind]

a very funny chapter

[shadow ibex]

every wow podcast is going to gobble this up

[rare kite]

huh? as in like the alien?

https://tenor.com/view/et-extra-terrestrial-party-disco-celebrate-gif-6155719

[frosty pike]

i looked at my parses for last night and it looks like the most slams i had cast was 21

thats not that bad

[civic path]

just looked for the update, hyped

i was so disappointed

[blazing harness]

Colossus or gtfo lol
Bigger smashy bois ftw (but really just play what you want 😂)

[frosty pike]

nah i agree i think both can be fun

i just dont like that if i spec colo atm i get like 5 more buttons to press

[vast helm]

8%

now we

[bitter escarp]

PUMP

[pearl wind]

INSANE DAM

[tardy hare]

They need to undo the execute nerf from last season while they are at it

[shadow ibex]

they need to un nerf our tier

[spiral coral]

Really was hoping for a thoughtful buff to ms and sks or something….

Fucking 8% across the board

Ok

[shadow ibex]

8% is enough to make it so you aren't a hard carry

but still strictly worse than fury

[vast helm]

https://tenor.com/view/dbd-daima-dbz-dbs-db-gif-4847201313355668427

[spiral coral]

Already switched to prot

Trash

[vale gorge]

Is fury dat good ?

[bitter escarp]

yes

[edgy solstice]

no

[frosty pike]

arms is that bad

[civic path]

it's less worse

[shadow ibex]

and since they buffed all the under perfomers by roughly same amount its really just the floor moving up

[pearl wind]

lmfao

[tardy hare]

Arms is probably better in phys comp now for m+

[dire hinge]

🗣️ revert the buff put us back in the dumpster

who said that 😳

[bitter escarp]

[pure otter]

8% overpreforming, nerf bladestorm by 30% adds dying to fast in lfr

[zenith warren]

I just want arms to be same or better on ST than fury - hate playing fury on ST

[dreamy valley]

fury is also shit btw

[shadow ibex]

i got bad news

[proud heath]

imo fury would be less annoying if i didnt need to press WW every 4 moves

[rare kite]

not really true in m+ atleast

obviously not meta but still pretty decent

[eternal saddle]

yeah but if you're not meta in m+ good luck getting pug invites lmao

[frosty pike]

why not just form your own groups

[eternal saddle]

I do

But sometimes I don't want to run what MY key is

[dreamy valley]

it is when you get in group with proper players like mm hunters, arcane mages, shadow priest's or frost dk who can do 8.5 mil overall and your max is 6ish

[eternal saddle]

for example: I currently have a streets key

[dire hinge]

that's just the life of every DPS right now to be fair, that's not a unique issue to warrior at all

[frosty pike]

i guess, i usually just M+ pug my own key or wait til guildies if i need a swap

[eternal saddle]

I do not want to run streets

[frosty pike]

this, DPS queueing is a misery experience

[dire hinge]

it's an easy out to blame it on meta comps, but it's just not true

i wish it was that straight forward

[rare kite]

idk where you get the 6m overall max. seen crit do 8m overall today

[flat willow]

guys, the ret paladins are fully prepared for martyrdom, I'm scared about what they'll do

[dreamy valley]

he is top player im talking about random pug, where prety random arcanes and shadow's do 8.5+ and not in the top 100 of the class

[dire hinge]

especially early in the season like right now, the moment you have a single person apply with higher ilvl or io you're out. Yes, we don't bring any "utility", which doesn't help, but the main issue is that queues are just a numbers game. Either get to keys listed early, or be higher ilvl/io than other people who apply.

There's a tremendous amount of dps applying to every key, and you're not gonna be selected the moment someone better applies.

[flat willow]

I knew ret players were unhinged but not that unhinged

[rare kite]

man i cba with you

[wicked aurora]

paladins aren't real people

it's official

[frank rose]

Me? 🥺

[sharp wyvern]

why did they buf fire tho

do they want another m+ season of fire mages ?

[dreamy valley]

other's specs do too good, all mages should play

to take more slots in m+ from classes with no group utility or bl

[coral mesa]

so i took a break and somehow skullsplitter being meta again ruined my night

[shadow ibex]

i just dont use sks

lol

[snow harbor]

But 1 big stick looks cooler than 2 big sticks

[candid pecan]

the talent which makes prot have random ravagers is so good, 1 less button , imagine they just BAKED SKS into CS/warbreaker

[rare kite]

if it makes you feel better anything arms does isn't meta

[limpid oxide]

8% buff coming Tuesday!

[shadow ibex]

every new talent prot got, we need

its insane how every one of them would be great

including the one that just increases exe dmg instead of juggernaut

[spiral coral]

https://tenor.com/view/trash-spongebob-gif-18104249

[coral mesa]

talked to some friends about this the other day and thought they were overreacting.

[candid pecan]

true wtf, 3 target execute, 25% bloodborne 1 point, shit even the random ravagers

[dreamy valley]

[shadow ibex]

random ravager, no jug and just a base exe dmg buff, passive sweeping

[full furnace]

yay, a 8% aura buff, pretty much a bandaid on a peg leg but thanks i guess

[summer elbow]

Look at this

[spiral coral]

The 8% buff honestly just made me really salty. Like just reconfirming we’re an afterthought at this point.

[dire hinge]

is this a screenshot for ants

[summer elbow]

XD

[candid pecan]

I'm on PC and had to click twice to be able to read

[shadow ibex]

8% with 5% to the others is enough to keep us behind them at least

so just above aug

[dreamy valley]

and that's the right thing to do, mages always cry and get buffs

[coral mesa]

i just want to hit with big stick and do big damage. is that too much to ask?

[spark epoch]

the ironic part of it all is ret paladins are imbalanced in pvp lol

they need a nerf in pvp

yet they nerfed Dk's LOL

[summer elbow]

Man wtf how can paladins complain look at us and we still fighting

[rain fiber]

As long as they don't fix arms gameplay, it won't ever be noticed or taken care of, idk why they don't bring back the Legion/BFA style. It feels clunky to use rend instead of being auto applied for instance

[spiral coral]

Makes me literally never want to play pally, ever lol

Their community is… weird

[pearl wind]

sweeping strikes should be baked in too

feels bad to press a whole gcd button so my shit hits one (1) additional mob

[full furnace]

i don't miss deep wounds doing 70% of my damage in late bfa

[fallen agate]

Crybabys... err I mean Paladins will never be happy.

[flat willow]

I don't miss bfa at all

[summer elbow]

I never played pally before and i will never do it

[spiral coral]

It’s not fun

[shadow ibex]

throw 5% on that 8%

[fallen agate]

It's boring as sin

[shadow ibex]

and we talking

[summer elbow]

Guys can you tell me how was arms in legion how was our play Style?

[flat willow]

yes, revert the ret paladin buff and give it to us instead

[dreamy valley]

30%*

[spiral coral]

Dripping in swag

[grave mulch]

Woke up to arms getting 8% and ret getting a buff because they locked there shit down 😂

[candid drift]

New meta unlocked

[void bay]

I dont usually watch streamers etc, but I watch RWF and THD just said "All paladins want to do is RP, ride horses and be top damage" when they were talking about the buffs/nerfs

[inner plover]

Be funny if they just said oh yeah we will buff ret and they nerf it more

[summer elbow]

How was our dmg on st and aoe m+? Were we behind fury?

[fallen agate]

Ret locking their stuff down is quite sad

[celest forge]

Hi gamers. I had someone tell me I took 117.3 million avoidable damage in a key. How do I check what he means? https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/Vk1vxa8YFAJcXZCK?fight=last

[violet kayak]

yea, but at this point, the Arms guide should be to reroll

[jade ember]

Rets babyraging about 5% versus us babyraging about 8%, who will win?

[spiral coral]

To prot

[violet kayak]

higher dps, probably

[dreamy valley]

👆

[shadow ibex]

i mean just by log it was worst dps in the game

[spiral coral]

Ez’er life

[pearl wind]

i dont think it was because they threw a fit, i think they just slammed buffs on anything performing worse than augvoker

[shadow ibex]

thats what it looks like yea

great metric for sure

someone earlier linked guy who jumped off on diminsius got a 20th% parse because there's no one playing arms

[pearl wind]

what's really hilarious is that they think they had any negotiation power in digging in their heels by "keeping it locked until double digit buff no lowballers"

[next sphinx]

Are we back?

[shadow ibex]

0 dps = bottom 20th percentile

[full furnace]

theres a details extension to see avoidable damage taken, hard to see on logs but you did take a lot of damage from caltrops

[reef glade]

yea they are not getting 2 back to back buffs cuz of some random discord mod crybaby 😭

[shadow ibex]

i dont think they actually believe it i think its just meming at this point

i mean i would hope not

[reef glade]

maybe in a week if they get lucky a little extra

[pearl wind]

somehow i doubt it's a meme

[jade ember]

Quick someone lock this channel until they get the Arms buff to double digits, no lowballs.

[grave mulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898720803586048/1405832910250053743/arms_deadge.gif

[shadow ibex]

i think they just tryin to go along with being made fun of

[jade ember]

https://i.imgflip.com/a2lrdf.gif

[bitter escarp]

16%

[shadow ibex]

not really a graceful way out of this

[pearl wind]

it really came across as childish impotent crybaby rage especially considering how ret has performed historically and you can't always be cooking hard with wake of ashes divine storm spam

[jade ember]

Having your WoWHead writer schizo post you into a buff is crazy tbh

[pearl wind]

meanwhile nobody in fire or arms community was throwing a fit just accepting things as they are and they got buffed anyway

[violet kayak]

to be fair, mages don't get to complain since at least one of their specs is always S-tier

[jade ember]

https://i.imgflip.com/a2hzx9.gif

No fits here

[pearl wind]

thats true

[pearl wind]

just memeing though and not an OFFICIAL MODERATOR ANGWY FIT INCITE TO RIOT

[coral mesa]

you know what. you convinced me, i'm on board with this.

[grave mulch]

So what we were siting at 5.3 mill what we like 5.5 now ?

[celest forge]

So there are 5 arms warriors?

Seems legit

[grave mulch]

Cheers friend!

[spiral locust]

I heard people said arms was bad and needed buffs, but when I saw the stats... damn
sending throughts and prayers from the fury community

[shadow ibex]

9

[inner wasp]

no arms got 5% arms is fixed

[celest forge]

[shadow ibex]

the bottom 2 did 0 and jumped off the edge

[spiral locust]

ah, thanks blizz

[celest forge]

I was being facetious but that's so fucking funny

[shadow ibex]

yea

[minor kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/conor-mcgregor-the-king-is-back-ufc-irish-gif-13824399239294088051

[finite grotto]

SWEET

[minor kraken]

We back boys

[shadow ibex]

there are many fights where there isn't a full page of parses for arms

[jade ember]

So Col Arms is a real consideration against Thane Fury for keys with this at least, surely.

[celest forge]

Arms is fine in keys

[minor kraken]

I would add raid to that also tbh

[shadow ibex]

idk i did some colossus keys and

i mean the aoe just isnt there

and the ST is negative

got 4pc like 700 ilvl

[fresh spire]

honestly think slayer arms has more potential than colossus

[celest forge]

When you say AoE isn't there what does that mean?

[fresh spire]

as you have 0 st damage in colossus

[jade ember]

My impression was that Arms did similar overall to Fury but with worse ST, that only happens if the aoe is there, no?

[shadow ibex]

i mean im doing less than another class that also blows out my ST

[celest forge]

I can still do 8 digits on big pulls and 3m on boss

[shadow ibex]

so im just bad at both

[next sphinx]

Let's up the ante. Mods publicly sacrifice me and demand an arms rework that is good

[shadow ibex]

i mean cmon man its getting an 8% flat buff

its bad man

[finite grotto]

@celest forge colo or slayer

[celest forge]

I can't hear you with these fingers in my ears

[celest forge]

Colossus

[shadow ibex]

ill try some more colo keys tonight

i got maw of void for a billion crit

so ill just crit every demolish

[grave mulch]

Heroic or normal?

[shadow ibex]

H

[celest forge]

LFR

[grave mulch]

Yo nice heroic !

[shadow ibex]

biggest value probably was already 710

no crest spent

= free 710 offhand for fury as well

[remote widget]

I'm a bloody ret main and still don't know about whatever chimpout apparently happened, anyone fill me in on the joke?

[sacred zodiac]

look at the ret discord it is ongoing

[jade ember]

No lowballs

[remote widget]

Not in it, got banned for saying death threats are bad a while back because politics

[shadow ibex]

unfortunate timing happened

[hard zenith]

TL;DR - bolas threw a giant hissy fit that ret is a lower performing spec. Shut down the ret channels as some form of protest. Got 5% buff. Still being a baby.

[visual fern]

[sacred zodiac]

garm when will we get arms channel shutdown

[visual fern]

When arms is actually good again

And we dont need an arms channel

[sacred zodiac]

ill hold you to that

[visual fern]

Cuz everyone is too busy enjoying arms

To yap

[dire hinge]

if we're the worst spec, then other people better not place below us

[grave mulch]

So we had no arms now we got dead pool baby arms

[remote widget]

That's pretty sad. It's not even like ret being bad is some brand new never before seen thing singularly worthy of freaking out over

Can guarantee it isn't unplayable to the point of being impossible to get CE with so it ain't worth all that stupidity

[grave mulch]

It’s gotta go down as one the biggest discord chimp outs 😂😂

[dim basalt]

The only spec that is genuinely grief is arms rn

[remote widget]

Smh my head

[dire hinge]

Ret crashing out harder than boomkins was not on my TWW bingo card

[fresh spire]

shut down incoming

[remote widget]

My boomie friend usually does over 7m in keys seems ok lol

[fresh spire]

Were locking up until 2x digit buffs

[shadow ibex]

i cant wait to play arms on nexus king next week

[urban iron]

Chat are we saved?

[shadow ibex]

ngl

[sacred zodiac]

how unemployed must one be to steer this course of action

its so good

[dire hinge]

oh for sure, i mean more of the general sentiment of their discord behavior, not their actual dps performance

[fresh spire]

the average ret paladin i guess

[remote widget]

I remember the druid class hall in legion, I assume the discord is just as full of weirdos if not more so I stay away

[balmy kindle]

8%

https://tenor.com/view/armswarrior-warrior-warriorwow-armswow-armswarriorwow-gif-27099127

[weak rain]

what is final sim gonna be after the buff? 5.8?

[shadow ibex]

maybe nexus king can be fun as arms just ignore the intermission and being useless there

i guess could get cleave but

🤮

well not a bad idea if you dont need bleed talents anyway?

[dire hinge]

im a bit out of the loop on what our current sims are at, but since they didn't change anything else you can just multiply it by x1.08

[weak rain]

no trinkets/autoattack damgur

[shadow ibex]

not a perfect science because of dmg from trinkets and such

i think auto attack would be included

[dire hinge]

for sure, decent ballpark tho

[weak rain]

we use last boss trinket which does like 5% or smth

[shadow ibex]

just because its all

[fresh spire]

ill get numbers in a bit

its about 8% better

[shadow ibex]

but idk if they specify auto usually

[fresh spire]

:kekw

[dire hinge]

https://tenor.com/view/shh-cats-gif-14317670277085954258

[grave mulch]

[dire hinge]

no rush, i appreciate you

[limpid drift]

guys can i come back from frost dk

[dire hinge]

absolutely! follow your heart my friend

play what you enjoy

[minor kraken]

No you gave up on us

[limpid drift]

I enjoy not holding my comp back lmao

[dry frost]

https://i.imgflip.com/a2hzx9.gif

[shadow ibex]

why play warrior at all then

[limpid drift]

(im already dog but doubling down with a dog class... yike)

[shadow ibex]

[grave mulch]

If you outshine everyone else on the worst spec that’s a reflection on them .

People meta chase to much

[shadow ibex]

there's still monday

for additional

[grave mulch]

Agreed

[silk breach]

8% we're so back!

[grave mulch]

Give us an extra 5%

[minor kraken]

We still want more

Close down the channel we might get another 6%

[runic rock]

8% is pretty big

[untold mist]

8% is to race tank dps

[lost briar]

Hi, im a returning player, i want to know how its going my favorite spec. it is fun to play arms rn?

[runic rock]

In terms of tuning that's more than you usually see

[grave mulch]

You dodged all the bs going from bottom of the board to middle of the pack

This Monday

[runic rock]

Still going to be lower middle pack

[lost briar]

Oh, thats nice lol

[limpid drift]

id rather rating chase than be a top 500 warrior that barely got over +15s timed

lmao

outside of title warriors the entire leaderboard was abandoned in s2

[untold mist]

thats actually a skill issue, especially since in s2 the physical comp was outshining the actual meta comp

and seems like the current phys comp will again be pretty competitive, let's see

[grave mulch]

I mean it’s week 1! It’s not like future tuning won’t happen.

[celest forge]

We deserve a time on top of the charts let's riot

[shadow ibex]

I think his point was that outside of title they didn't exist

[limpid drift]

if you know any mid outlaw rogues or monks send them my way

[lone anvil]

is 8% enough to overtake Fury in keys?

[grave mulch]

Things will get buffed and nerfed people will abandon classes and start all over again

[untold mist]

problem was mainly that s2 was so dead, that nobody played after like a month and a half

[shadow ibex]

90 month season

You could have been born gone to college and raised a family with how long s2 dragged on

[untold mist]

i honestly dont think so, esp. if that stupid skullsplitter build has to be played... its so freakin unconfy.

[frosty pike]

with them announcing the ilvl increase again for s3 you better buckle up for round 2 of that

[lone anvil]

TY Boco

[untold mist]

🐍 haha

[halcyon valve]

I hit a 52 million dmg demolish earlier, so yeah, its fun

[limpid drift]

there are s2 title warriors that have the same keys my teams ret pally finished and isnt even top 100

[shadow ibex]

Hoping for a faster turn around tbh

Idk s2 is one of my least favorite. Just dragged on forever

[grave mulch]

Enhance sham discord 🤝

[fresh spire]

5,822m Would be roughly where arms ends up

[frosty pike]

i do too, i think the only hope that this happens is they want to shove out another "awakened" season like dragonflight had as with any other changes or prepatch type stuff like housing

[shadow ibex]

The fact we have a build up maybe beta week after gamescom

[minor gust]

Nice lil 8% I'll take it. Still won't change things for raid but will help arms be a lil more competitive in M+

Sad the little bitches that is ret pallys got a buff

Now they prob think their dumb protest worked

[balmy kindle]

M+ is 90% of the game for me so Imma take it

[radiant dawn]

Ignore the little discord moderators and think of the honest 60 y/o boomers coming home from their shift at the femur crushing factory to play their favourite class 🙏

[fresh spire]

ret discord is still locked

"until 2 digit buffs"

[dire hinge]

is -10% double digit

[sour forge]

Keep meme dooming arms

Maybe you too can double your aura buff

[fresh spire]

hahaha

[minor gust]

Damn they really can't get anymore pathetic.

[grave mulch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898720803586048/1405832910250053743/arms_deadge.gif

[radiant dawn]

We hate discord moderators

[sour forge]

I like Archi

[dire hinge]

we might be bad, but we're not cringe
just press buttons better, enjoy fun game, life is good

[frosty pike]

its so over the top i have to believe its trolling/satire

[minor gust]

At least DK protest was about their raid buff situation which is fucking deserved. Rets are just protesting over bad tuning

[sour forge]

Especially when he gets sassy

[minor gust]

[void bay]

Who is we?

[radiant dawn]

it's we

[radiant dawn]

it's a mentality you see

[void bay]

Mental for sure

[balmy kindle]

"we have most players listen or unsub reeee"

[fresh spire]

unsub then

[shadow ibex]

It's now you didn't win territory

[fresh spire]

[shadow ibex]

The only thing they can do is double down

[fresh spire]

more room for arms warriors in keys now

[shadow ibex]

It's the most emberassing thing possible

[balmy kindle]

^^

[radiant dawn]

There's always room for an arms warrior if you run your own key

It's always been that simple

[shadow ibex]

My own key has been a +2

[fresh spire]

Completely different vibe, sure we been mega doom posting but its been fun spamming the coffin gif at the same time

[shadow ibex]

And I'm like 2600

I refuse

[radiant dawn]

Coward

[sharp wyvern]

our doom is memeing

ret doom is suicidewatch

[fresh spire]

holy need new gif one sec

[radiant dawn]

I mean there's whinging about your spec being low then still playing it or waiting for buffs and then w.e the fuck those discord mods r on abt

[cunning comet]

hi

[tulip rose]

before we get season 3 set is colossus still ahead of thane?

[fresh spire]

https://i.imgflip.com/a389n4.gif

[sharp wyvern]

yes

https://i.imgflip.com/a389n4.gif

[sour forge]

And having constructive criticism. Did you see the fan made rework

Omg new gif dropped

[radiant dawn]

I didn't see shit tbqh

[sour forge]

Ily arms chat

[balmy kindle]

Amazing gif

[radiant dawn]

I'm only on these class discords for gifs I'm ngl

[dire hinge]

jesus christ lol

[fresh spire]

[sharp wyvern]

krisp the doom MVP

[dire hinge]

rip Tirion Fordring, you would have loved weaponizing the Light for personal gain

[fresh spire]

https://tenor.com/view/salute-cat-cute-yessir-gif-17449845613192073437

[icy plume]

\

[orchid pulsar]

Arms is so strong now this buff is great

[charred brook]

So what does arms m+ look like now

[sharp wyvern]

still collosus

[sour forge]

8% better

[dire hinge]

it looks better than this morning 😎

[sharp wyvern]

https://i.imgflip.com/a389n4.gif

[minor gust]

Yeah we've been dooming and making it a meme. They are being absolute cringe losers we are not the same

https://tenor.com/view/mujikcboro-seriymujik-gif-24361533

[sharp wyvern]

even in S1 we were memeing

[fresh spire]

based

[celest forge]

This is what it looks like for me, but I'm not very good at arms so you might be able to get better

[glacial rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/lol-weak-sauce-im-ded-dead-i'm-dead-gif-4849901707428042191

[sharp wyvern]

while fotm rerollers were losing it

[obtuse copper]

8% damage buff is all Arms needed for the spec design to be saved

[minor gust]

Jugg says hello

[sharp wyvern]

8% fatality buff

[fresh spire]

Slayer no rend keys about to become the meta

[vast tinsel]

Fatality gets crazy value on demenius because you kill him twice

[balmy kindle]

Spin spin spin

[minor gust]

That's my guess as well

[balmy kindle]

I am garen in wow now

[minor gust]

Colossus ST is to ass to be playable

[obtuse copper]

https://tenor.com/view/garening-garen-league-of-legends-lol-top-gif-18196489488872386345

Need Fatality to be garen R, just kill boss when it goes under 30% HP

[dry frost]

real

[fresh spire]

Colossus ST too behind, playing slayer with execute usage for extra bladestorms/not having to thunder clap constantly might actually work out solid

[sharp wyvern]

that sounds like a bug they would introduce

[dry frost]

We need to deal true damage based on the targets missing HP

[fresh spire]

holy shit my main

[balmy kindle]

[obtuse copper]

[vast tinsel]

Then take the other option with brutal finish and pad like crazy

[fresh spire]

other option for brutal finish likely still weaker than brutal finish

cyclone

[minor gust]

Only thing tbh it might be better to play rend slayer because Jugg can be pretty hard to play well with in keys

[vast tinsel]

I think depends on mob count

[fresh spire]

likely some funky playstyle can be used for jug