set was absurd
#arms
fading sage
The set buffed the right abilities
fossil thistle
I can see arms getting 3-5% buff in the next 2 weeks honestly
latent moss
idk arms would need to be broken simwise to be good
fossil thistle
675 hunter alt doing 20m dps aoe and more ST then 686 feels Sadge
latent moss
or make colo competitive
idk it pisses me off how we have 0 choice
its fine if colo is a bit behind slayer with a very different damage profile
fossil thistle
Welcome to warrior
latent moss
ye now slayer beats it at 2t
fossil thistle
Which is fine if it’s a consistent 2T
Colossus still brings explosive add damage that slayer can’t do
Now.. will you get to with the FDK ret Paladin mage and hunters deleting adds? Probably not
Dps loss to swap 
dim basalt
Ret pal is a meme
fading sage
Bring back legion execute lol
tacit crystal
hi cond
latent moss
hi gala
fossil thistle
fury had 99 stack jugg
Yes. Bring back infinite juggernaut stacks
Shit was goated
untold trench
Problem is that m+ is now being degen played, you really don't want 99 jugg 
tacit crystal
you meet the strangest cooks doin open world content
thats what funky wishes he could be
untold trench
Would be fun if they were actual options
latent moss
you meet the strangest cooks doin open world content
i remember 9.1 lfr
some guy had 100% uptime on dstance
pvp player in lfr
thick kelp
grave mulch
mortal crag
mortal crag
Most based image to have graced this discord
mortal crag
you meet the strangest cooks doin open world content
S1 df ahh talent tree
dim basalt
I want WW buffs 
vast helm
balmy kindle
675 hunter alt doing 20m dps aoe and more ST then 686 feels Sadge
That bad eh, pretty sure S2 tier set is kinda good for us 
wicked oak
Hi, I'm at most 10-12 in MM+, do you think it's suicidal to stay Arm spec or is it still possible with this level?
Constructive argument. No fixed ideas...
plain latch
huh
balmy kindle
Hi, I'm at most 10-12 in MM+, do you think it's suicidal to stay Arm spec or is ...
It really depends on what happens the next 2-3 weeks
sharp wyvern
collossus aoe is still ok
thick kelp
Hi, I'm at most 10-12 in MM+, do you think it's suicidal to stay Arm spec or is ...
yes possible
balmy kindle
just a shame they nerfed the s3 set before, shd had just kept it the same
silver thistle
Any idea if we play arms or fury ythis tier?
glacial rapids
Noob Warrior question for the last boss of Ara'kara. What abilities are we using to get our of the snare?
eager sigil
Noob Warrior question for the last boss of Ara'kara. What abilities are we using...
dont get snared
leap the suck in last second
sleek crow
Noob Warrior question for the last boss of Ara'kara. What abilities are we using...
theres a weak aura that tells you when to jump with hero leap
silver thistle
theres a weak aura that tells you when to jump with hero leap
Do you have that?
glacial rapids
might be this one... https://wago.io/0Ta6vLUg4
silver thistle
❤️
fossil thistle
Hi, I'm at most 10-12 in MM+, do you think it's suicidal to stay Arm spec or is ...
Doesn’t play much differently, If you were doing 10-12s, you’ll likely be doing 10-12s again
fossil thistle
That bad eh, pretty sure S2 tier set is kinda good for us <:deadge:9002799271385...
Yea wasnt fun lol.
We’ll see what happens in the next few weeks. I can definitely see a flat 5%
balmy kindle
prayge
vast helm
spiral coral
Can’t wait to see my sandbagged ahh parses
granite coral
slate grail
arms owns 
(in mop)
granite coral
may as well just play babys first MMO if im gonna play classic
civic path
nice
nova marsh
I mean I play wow to suffer
icy mulch
nova marsh
Enhance is buffed
The buffs are literally worthless
Half of them are for a spec thats still behind even with them
nova marsh
And it still dosent fix stormbringers tier being completely garbage gameplay
Bis spec
Bro are you high
Elemental maybe
slow saddle
Y so go smellymental?
slow saddle
Hmm and here we are
Same
Played elemental shaman a short while..
In TBC
Karazhan
worthy otter
bro why does protection execute do like 3x the dmg of arms execute
flat willow
Cuz of juggernaut
Every time something feels bad about arms the answer is either juggernaut or BFA
worthy otter
latent moss
Every time something feels bad about arms the answer is either juggernaut or BFA
its funny how this sounds wrong but it isnt
slow saddle
Because arms loves modifiers
latent moss
they took cs on tactican and shattered defenses and gave us op on tactician and martial prowess
slow saddle
So exe hits hard when 15 stacks + avatar + cs is up
latent moss
So exe hits hard when 15 stacks + avatar + cs is up
if it crits
cause of 9000000000000 crit damage modifiers
worthy otter
I love how classic arms plays. Mortal Strike bonk, execute bonk
slow saddle
if it crits
🤣
latent moss
I love how classic arms plays. Mortal Strike bonk, execute bonk
idk if id call mop classic atp
slow saddle
I mean arms in gen prob 1 to many. Modifiers
latent moss
maybe im cooked but for me classic is vanilla tbc wrath
slow saddle
Remove mp totally, put dmg into ms + exem remove juggernaut add 4p from season 2
latent moss
u press rend and u expect a fat op
slow saddle
And let arms play thane!
worthy otter
i aint about bleeds ngl, big bonk all the way
slow saddle
So we are true lightning gods
worthy otter
if they occur as a result of bonk, fine
latent moss
bleeds are fun as long as there are interactions with them imo
spiral coral
I’ll only be suffering, if I don’t like a spec and forced to play it. But, that will never happen because it’s a video game and ima have fun 
Arms and assa rogue my life is bleeds
latent moss
wish arms had actual bleed power ngl
similar to assa
maybe not as much
more power to ms but envenom crits for like
4 times more than ms
with amp poison and buffs
nova marsh
Tbh I feel like bleed's place in the rota is fine
Even if it's a bit outdated as I orginally saw them as a way to keep up SOME form of damage during lost globals due to no rage
But like...rage bar cosmetic
smoky kayak
Cuz of juggernaut
this is only half right, the other half is because Prot has some absurd power scaling
real question you should be asking is why does Arms have to talent into Improved Execute to remove the CD, but Prot gets it for free at L10
Prot gets to do a dumb amount of damage with it because it's a spender that only competes against Revenge and defensive tools - the idea is that you use it sparingly because you're still spending most of your rage on IP/etc
so it has to be strong enough to compensate for that opportunity cost, though the reality is more likely that you use a cooldown or tank swap and just go full ham
broken cove
i get like "gateway talents" being there to spend for stuff near the beginning
but then you have stuff like this
fresh spire
impale is actually pretty strong 😄
lethal acorn
Arms wasn't fun to me until Cata/Mop, but I started playing in WoD, so I got to go back in time with classic eras
broken cove
for all intents and purposes a nothing talent when it comes to an effect
10% crit damage is GIGANTIC
fresh spire
its a powerful gateway, we could have a much weaker one
broken cove
but the talent itself is like
fresh spire
compared to
broken cove
its just kinda nothing
fresh spire
2% mastery or 1% vers
fresh spire
given its in a spot that we will always take no matter the build it's a bonified passive
broken cove
with stuff like impale, but keeping strictly to arms
yeah but in that case
youd think it would be like
basically swapped with improved execute and just
changed to something else.
and improved execute being baseline
or rend being baseline as well and changed to you know.
ANYTHING else
broken cove
then btw
you have improved execute, then you have massacre which is
35% execute window instead
which again is not nothing but its more like
bloat?
broken cove
if the 35% execute threshhold and improved execute were on the SAME TALENT TREE?
er
same talent point?
id be like ok yeah this makes a ton of sense
warped spade
Ya, what he's saying is turbo cursed
broken cove
ya
like what is this
THIS IS ALMOST NEAR A CAPSTONE TALENT LOL
massacre is on the same row as that
nova marsh
Yes our talent tree is literally garbage
nova marsh
We have so much nothing burger talents
broken cove
IN THE SAME PLACE
dim basalt
tom sucks
nova marsh
IFTK AND TEST OF MIGHT
That one makes sense thou
dim basalt
tom should be removed anyway
broken cove
i dont play dk so please correct me if im wrong, doesnt dk just get tom but in a way less shitty way where you just burst wounds and get bonus strength
dim basalt
ok but whats your obsession with tom
broken cove
its shit
remove it or make it something else
also tbf i dont really think i expressed an obsession with tom
for the most part people are going to follow static builds with not much variance
latent moss
tom is just
fucking shit
design wise
today i will have no curve to my damage and do static damage perma
its just boring
nova marsh
Yeah but tom isn't gonna be played any time soon
I'd rather blizz focus on giving us better cooldowns
Avatar for example
broken cove
tbf it is
kind of hard to figure out what to do to avatar
but it needs something more than
20% MORE DAMAGE AND IT REMOVES A ROOT
OH AND YOU GET BIGGER
nova marsh
Avatar is literally one of the worst cds in the entire game
Like im genuinely convinced
spring ruin
its ok my dudes, we going to cook nstuff. They made their 5 percent damage buff tuning and it apparently doesn't matter unless you doing 20 keys
dim basalt
Avatar 🤝 SEF
spring ruin
we are also COmp dependant so we just need to right group to unlock our secret potential
nova marsh
its ok my dudes, we going to cook nstuff. They made their 5 percent damage buff ...
If I do tank damage its okay im not top 1%
hexed saddle
If I do tank damage its okay im not top 1%
tbf doing tank damage when the tanks are prot and brm is not so bad
nova marsh
Man
spring ruin
I mean prot IS the new dps spec for warrior
nova marsh
I hate how much main character energy tanks get nowadays
spring ruin
people wanted sword n board glad stance nstuff, here we go
nova marsh
"Look at me i do as much damage as a dps and literally cant die!"
broken cove
im going to exercise self restraint
dim basalt
I hate how much main character energy tanks get nowadays
Far from true tho
broken cove
and not go on a tirade about gladiator removing arms for an entire expac
dim basalt
They got completely kneecapped going into TWW and still suffer from it
dim basalt
Also funny how Blizz just doesnt want prot to be strong
nova marsh
And tanks still ended up doing stupid damage....s1 prot pally anyone?
dim basalt
But when its VDH they act like they dont see shit
spring ruin
Cause tanks will try if they aren't the main character in the game soloing the dungeon
cry*
nova marsh
Cause tanks will try if they aren't the main character in the game soloing the d...
This isn't ffxiv
spring ruin
Know plenty of tanks who didn't want to play at all when the damage is mid, they get off on whole group dying and then they save the day finishing a boss from 20 percent to dead
sharp wyvern
are they all BDKs?
nova marsh
Know plenty of tanks who didn't want to play at all when the damage is mid, they...
Because tanks have a bigger ego then the sun
spring ruin
Yes at time haha, know one in particular BFA season 1 or 2
sharp wyvern
Because tanks have a bigger ego then the sun
nah i think that still goes to dps players
spring ruin
I am exaggerating but there are people like that
sharp wyvern
the amount of times dps tell the tank to pull more cause of funnel and then the group cant handle it is bigger than a tank pulling to much on his own
spring ruin
Tanked yesterday and some havoc DH was zipping around pulling for me and complaining
sharp wyvern
or dps telling others to interrupt when they havnt use a single stop the entire dungeon
sharp wyvern
Tanked yesterday and some havoc DH was zipping around pulling for me and complai...
had a mage like that too
nova marsh
Jokes on you I forgot my interrupt keybind
sharp wyvern
or dps just leaving the key if the tank doesnt use the exact route you want them too
like 90% of the time its a dps player with the ego problem
smoky kayak
THIS IS ALMOST NEAR A CAPSTONE TALENT LOL
what does this even mean? lol
nova marsh
like 90% of the time its a dps player with the ego problem
I'd argue that's just cuz theres more of us
smoky kayak
"this is almost near a capstone" so it's... not a capstone?
spring ruin
thats kind of true as well haha, was literally just going to say same thing if god forbid I use a diff route with m dungeon tool
smoky kayak
take your time
broken cove
if something is almost near something
it does not mean that it is NEAR something, it is close to being so
so say it takes 5 minutes to get to mcdonalds
instead of being 1 minute away
spring ruin
I thought he was trying to say it was nearly as good at the capstone itself
sharp wyvern
broken cove
2 minutes would be almost near
spring ruin
near in power not location
smoky kayak
the word you're looking for is proximity
broken cove
okay semantics aside
spring ruin
haha
smoky kayak
but that's not really a valid criticism regardless
broken cove
and you are entitled to your opinion my brother
smoky kayak
how close it is physically located to capstones is not in any way indicative of its power
there's simply no correlation between the two
broken cove
i dont agree with that again, but it is an opinion
were not going to agree, and thats fine
nova marsh
i dont agree with that again, but it is an opinion
The thing is thats never been how blizzard designed trees
broken cove
i wouldnt say that for every class but of course taking in account the factors of different classes, whats passive, blah blah blah
its like
theres too much variance to say whats what
smoky kayak
this row has some of the weakest talents in the class tree, yet its the final row before T3
sharp wyvern
i dont agree with that again, but it is an opinion
how is that an opinion when thats how it works rn
sharp wyvern
we take points above capstones cause they are better
broken cove
and not the spec one...?
smoky kayak
yes that's what "the class tree" means
broken cove
my bad i didnt pay attention that because i was talking about the spec tree
smoky kayak
but ok, let's move over to the spec tree - yup lots of REAL STRONG TALENTS HERE
latent moss
holy storm of swords
smoky kayak
I'm sayin
smoky kayak
the tree is not designed so that lower down talents are inherently stronger than higher up ones
it might make sense that they were, but that's quite simply not how it's designed - end of story
latent moss
ye i mean the point is to not let people take everything and to make decisions and trade offs
broken cove
once again, that is your opinion
latent moss
u talent into more X but in return u get less Y
sharp wyvern
thats not an opinion
latent moss
type shit
smoky kayak
There's no budging or opinion here, I'm explaining to you how it works
sharp wyvern
its how it works RIGHT NOW
latent moss
i mean all trees work like that no?
broken cove
okay for the sake of it i am going to look through other talent trees
smoky kayak
you think it should work a different way, and that's fine - that is an opinion
But how it actually works is not a matter of opinion, it simply is
sharp wyvern
you can disagree with the design but that wont change the way it works rn
broken cove
really quick
which i guess overall area is the beginning and cutoff would you guys think were talking about being 'near the end'
rows 7-10?
smoky kayak
Not exactly sure what you're asking, but the talent trees are already all split into three tiers
broken cove
is this another thing about using the word 'near' or proximity
fossil thistle
Arms should get a 30% damage buff next week
sharp wyvern
reset all your talents and you can see its seperated by 3 tiers
broken cove
of course i understand theyre split into 3 different tiers
smoky kayak
is this another thing about using the word 'near' or proximity
this has nothing to do with the word 'near' or 'proximity' no - that was a totally different conversation, so I'm not sure why you're coming back to it
the whole point of this conversation was to explain to you that relative location has nothing to do with power
broken cove
well you seem to be confused with how im wording something every time i say something
right
and when speaking of that, and saying i disagree
i pose the question, as i look at other talent trees
smoky kayak
you can disagree all you want, but it's a fact
broken cove
if this is NOT the case
smoky kayak
it is demonstrable
broken cove
lets take for example
as i mentioned earlier, which i shouldnt have because it is my 'area of gripe' i suppose
would be areas 7-10 which are in the proximity of being JUST before the end of the talent tree
smoky kayak
you can cherry pick examples from across any number of trees where a lower down talent happens to be stronger than a higher one, but that is not a universal design consideration
it's just happenstance
broken cove
assuming the end result of the situation
smoky kayak
also
broken cove
before
smoky kayak
stop
broken cove
even
smoky kayak
talking
broken cove
having
broken cove
been
smoky kayak
because
smoky kayak
it'sf
broken cove
answer
broken cove
i mean you just doing it while im doing it doesnt change anything you can just ask like a normal person
stop being weird
sharp wyvern
shift + space
smoky kayak
Yeah, clearly I'm the weird one here 👀
smoky kayak
I explained to you how things work and you're being argumentative about it
candid pecan
shift + space <:okayge:917646812519739433>
why thank you
indeed, this is great
i did it again
broken cove
i am more than open to being WRONG because thats just the way it is
smoky kayak
what you're doing isn't discussing
void bay
what is with your attitude man
He is having to babysit and explain to an apparent kid. It would become frustrating, especially when you write like you do.
broken cove
UGH THESE GUYS DONT GET IT!!! THEY HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IM SAYING!!
sharp wyvern
thats an opinion, im not sitting here like
can you state your opinion again cause im lost
broken cove
he thinks its an argument, i dont
broken cove
which can be fine, when most of the talent tree for arms isnt like mostly filler
smoky kayak
Yes you don't get it, you keep repeating an opinion based on how you think things should work, not how they actually work
how they actually work has been explained to you repeatedly, and yet you keep trying to state that this demonstrable fact is an "opinion" and that your point of view is somehow more correct
latent moss
generally big talents (capstones) are at the bottom cause thats you gate them the easiest
broken cove
latent moss
ik assa doenst have an amazing tree either
but like
most of their talents are
poison damage increased by 5%
smoky kayak
TLDR you don't know shit about shit
someone who knows infinitely more is trying to explain to you
and you're being stubborn about it
latent moss
garrote duration increased by 4s
broken cove
TLDR you don't know shit about shit
someone who knows infinitely more is trying ...
im not going to sit here and whip out logs because that is beyond childish
smoky kayak
what logs
broken cove
so i am going to let you just keep this stance
sharp wyvern
what does this even mean
smoky kayak
this is what I'm talking about with your stubbornness - stop deflecting
broken cove
"you dont know shit about shit"
sharp wyvern
wait no i want to see the logs where things work like you want them to
broken cove
bro youre the one who has been antagonizing me the entire time LMAO
smoky kayak
if you want to have the conversation, have the conversation, but stop deflecting from the point
broken cove
not that im like 'bugged' by it but like
shadow ibex
jesus fuckin christ this is emberassing lmao
smoky kayak
clearly you must be
broken cove
bro youre the one whos been going at me its fucking weird
hexed saddle
low tier rage bait atp
smoky kayak
no joke lmao
sharp wyvern
i think there was a problem with what certain words mean
sharp wyvern
no i want to see those logs
sour forge
broken cove
we wont agree with what each other it seems, and thats fine, i appreciate what you do (for the most part) as a class writer and for the warrior community
you getting weirdly aggressive is strange but whatever
smoky kayak
you're right, it isn't that deep
- the conversation started with you claiming that a weak talent being near capstones was somehow wrong
- I pointed out that talent location has no relevance to power
- you then tried to argue that was an "opinion" despite multiple people also explaining that is how the talent trees work
- now you've moved on to trying to make this about me being mean to you, because I don't accept the premise of your "opinion"
broken cove
but were just not going to agree
smoky kayak
we don't have to agree
shadow ibex
you can just block the person and move on from it. best advice i can give
smoky kayak
I can do better than that
sour forge
void bay
we need the coffin guys again
untold trench
I give that bait-sting a solid 3.5/10
sharp wyvern
this is what happens when we stop dooming
shadow ibex
that's what i did
glacial rapids
Nah I enjoy this arguing instead of the tuna and coffin spam
trim lintel
candid pecan
monday we're back 
sharp wyvern
i realy wanted him to whip out those logs and explain his opinion 
smoky kayak
he didn't have one
signal fern
does someone know if there is any Tier set gains spreadsheet for all classes?
sharp wyvern
not public yet
smoky kayak
there are a few floating around, though they're not always 100% accurate
signal fern
ok thx
smoky kayak
the last one I saw didn't account for Thane's tier nerf but otherwise looked more or less correct for Warriors; can't say how up to date it is for other classes though
they also don't always account for talent or rotation changes when going from one tier (or no tier) to another; they just use one common profile
- so if you have a big talent change w/ Season 3 tier, the spreadsheets will usually just use the S3 tier talent profile for both and not reflect that additional change
sharp wyvern
good thing warrior builds never change 
smoky kayak
good thing warrior builds never change <:dander:905248880910815302>
you know what they say
sharp wyvern
fresh spire
candid pecan
sharp wyvern
smoky kayak
there ya go
fresh spire
the swarm is here
sharp wyvern
this even works for boomies
fresh spire
we need more tuna tbh
sharp wyvern
its just a matter of time they are using this
nova marsh
this even works for boomies
We can't let the boomies steal our meme damn it
dim basalt
Tettles had a crashout about being called a sandbagger
shadow ibex
gotta give em their props
sharp wyvern
Tettles had a crashout about being called a sandbagger
and then he wipes 200 times on kyvessa
shadow ibex
i wish we had a content creator like tettles
or a representative whoever talks to bliz for classes whatever their title is
sharp wyvern
yeah we only have crit and he does the opposite
getting title every season on dps warr
silk spade
Tettles had a crashout about being called a sandbagger
i need a clip of this
dim basalt
Can easily find it on twitter
sharp wyvern
whats twitter
nova marsh
whats twitter
If you call it X you're gonna stub ur toe
smoky kayak
getting title every season on dps warr
wym? Title is easy as boomkin, just buy it like everyone else
sharp wyvern
is this the china thing ?
smoky kayak
no that's EU
nova marsh
Genuinely shocking ret isn't the highest
Considering it's litterally the most played spec in the entire game
untold trench
Fury Warrior better ethics and morals than Arms warrior, confirmed
smoky kayak
Also you can't really blame Tettles for doing content creator things as a content creator, you have to engage in a certain amount of bombastic behavior in order to maintain and grow a streaming audience - just look at Max
sharp wyvern
Fury Warrior better ethics and morals than Arms warrior, confirmed
what has the world come to
nova marsh
I wish evrey class had a creator like Zorthas
sharp wyvern
maybe there is a chance for dratnos to start playing dps warr instead of tank
sour forge
Uhdk and arcane mage buying boosts
thick kelp
I wish evrey class had a creator like Zorthas
whats special about zorth
sharp wyvern
he is a tomato
smoky kayak
maybe there is a chance for dratnos to start playing dps warr instead of tank <:...
hard to make strat videos from the bench
sharp wyvern
sharp wyvern
that 2 min tldr video for w0 was insane
most people would stretch that to 20 min
realy zoomer coded or low attention spans
smoky kayak
that's another "content creator" thing - youtube monetization is shit for anything below 10m
so the only people who are gonna make vids that short are the ones who don't care about monetization, which means they're just doing it for the love of the game
def respectable, but not exactly a winning strategy
nova marsh
Short ? indepth?
Using graphics and displays instead of gameplay
I see so many guides just be "here's the rota on a training dummy" at least video wise
smoky kayak
people that make videos where they just talk over whacking a dummy or something else completely unrelated to the subject they're talking about 
thick kelp
Using graphics and displays instead of gameplay
so like powerpoint images
in video format
thick kelp
like how wowhead displays openers
flat willow
best sandbag campaign i ever seen
that's just a lie, it can not be the best you've ever seen because they do the exact same thing every season
sharp wyvern
and they also dont have kalamazi
hazy flower
What about them makes them the "best"
They’re clear and concise, he explains stuff pretty well imo. Made me learn enhance and visualize concepts faster than wowhead would. Also he keeps it updated which is especially nice since those are video guides that are bound to be outdated
hazy flower
wym? Title is easy as boomkin, just buy it like everyone else
Where did u get it from if i may ask
smoky kayak
I bought it, duh
hazy flower
Thanks
olive nest
spiral coral
nova marsh
I stg
ancient vector
Hello! I have a minor question regarding Arms in m+ (colossus). Do I ever press Slam instead of cleave in ST e.g at boss fight?
nova marsh
Hello! I have a minor question regarding Arms in m+ (colossus). Do I ever press ...
You have no reason to press cleave in ST
Unless it's to spend left over stacks of Collatoral
ancient vector
thank you!
nova marsh
Remeber: cleave dosen't give CM stacks unless it hits 3 targets
And you can kinda use that as a guideline as to weather or not you should use it
tacit crystal
maybe there is a chance for dratnos to start playing dps warr instead of tank <:...
why when you can watch wes
sharp wyvern
who
fossil thistle
vast helm
wanton sierra
so no buffs ? sadge
minor gust
were perfectly balanced tyvm
plain latch
where is this cool transmog you're talking about
jade ember
Yeah I haven't been super impressed by a Warrior set in a long time
Kinda feel like Antorus was the last banger unless I'm forgetting something
thick kelp
You forgot aberrus
thick kelp
aberrus arms was cope
meant the tmog set 
thick kelp
Echo p3 lust was peak tho
thick kelp
kaching
latent moss
i progged as arms
minor gust
Echo p3 lust was peak tho
I loved doing no dmg on pull on Echo just to pop off at the end and be top
jade ember
Meh Abberus was an okay set
latent moss
i remember on rashok
thick kelp
latent moss
not only rashok actually
on like every single boss
asking me why mi doing so low damage
when we wipe at like 50%
me when i have to explain to them my spec
does 0 dmg
35-100
minor gust
if u didnt lust on pull in Abberus you were not doing dmg as arms on pull
thick kelp
xddds
latent moss
https://images.app.goo.gl/iQBcpQypTWbcmLR56
chest is so ahh
why are 2d chests a thing
make them 3d blizzard
boreal quartz
its a good one
minor gust
oh yeah
boreal quartz
its basically heroic plus
minor gust
I did pvp for the first time in years to get the red/white version
jade ember
Honestly the real best warrior mog is the Nighthold DK set
latent moss
bro the last time i did pvp was back in sl
i think s2
there was a very cool illusion
legit
walk into arena
charge all cds
either they die or i die
gg
minor gust
Peak
boreal quartz
i just needed some games
minor gust
they made belt stop tabards
I rarely ever use Tabards for tmog
boreal quartz
crazy shit
latent moss
i did on 1 on war and 6 on hunter
do 2 more on hunter fym
boreal quartz
i mean duh
latent moss
i need 2 saved too
boreal quartz
but like if i wanna play any other char
boreal quartz
maybe actually
latent moss
maybe phys comp
boreal quartz
the new wep looks ultra sex
boreal quartz
maybe phys comp
surely we can play that with hunter
phasediving + deathfrost
i saw it in org
legit thought huh cm glaive
latent moss
surely we can play that with hunter
ye prolly
minor gust
https://www.wowhead.com/achievement=61017/phase-lost-and-found
doing this right now
boreal quartz
mby i try it
boreal quartz
doing this right now
it also gives a mount
that makes u phase color
in nomral world
latent moss
like ion expect me to actually push keys much but if im not raiding
yeye i think hunter is fine for high keys
minor gust
it also gives a mount
oh yeah heard about this mount. really dumb it doesnt let you use that mount in phase diving
boreal quartz
apparently this BM build
latent moss
some people saying its weak defensively but dont u have 2x sotf?
boreal quartz
latent moss
:mhm:
boreal quartz
some people saying its weak defensively but dont u have 2x sotf?
that + pet wall + feign + turtle + heal thing
latent moss
ye idk how is that weak defensively but w/e
boreal quartz
i forget what defensives u get from packleader
but on dark ranger (mm) u get half ur wall on heal
and vice versa
kinda ait
latent moss
ye they probably comparing themselves to fury or dks
minor gust
https://www.wowhead.com/achievement=61017/phase-lost-and-found
so doing this gives mount and pole arm tmog?
like gotta complete it all for the tmog?
minor gust
oh
minor gust
shit that makes it easier only gonna pick up the cool ones
boreal quartz
nothing to do anyways
dim basalt
weak rain
boreal quartz
latent moss
slow saddle
fresh spire
minor gust
hallow panther
vast helm
spiral coral
https://i.imgflip.com/a2lrdf.gif
halcyon valve
we should start armsposting
fossil thistle
the new wep looks ultra sex
Ain’t no CM polearm but it ain’t bad
cunning comet
the new wep looks ultra sex
Hi
slow saddle
fresh spire
we should start armsposting
we have been
spiral coral
we should start armsposting
The last week of arms has been a collective shit show
halcyon valve
fresh spire
holy COPE
halcyon valve
|| https://www.wowhead.com/news/upcoming-class-tuning-on-weekly-reset-aoe-target-soft-caps-added-arms-warrior-329997 wowhead post from november 2022 ||
spiral coral
😂 jesus christ
sour forge
Oh damn a gmm gif
halcyon valve
arms posting
floral ledge
nice bait
candid pecan
HOLY I JUMPED, but then...
latent hull
weird way to spell nerf but ok
halcyon valve
hollow axle
dim basalt
void bay
spiral coral
fresh spire
devout pewter
Guys I've tried switching to Fury and instantly felt the need to log off and gear up my Mage again... Is that normal?
(I really don't like fury... man..)
vast helm
rare kite
Guys I've tried switching to Fury and instantly felt the need to log off and gea...
no that's not normal. most abnormal thing is liking TWW arms tho
devout pewter
But I like my arms
icy mulch
magic canopy
THIEF
minor gust
minor gust
hallow panther
grave mulch
spiral coral
Max calling all the discord class peoples for tier. CritCakes just like: Warrior fucking sucks I’m going to bed.
fresh spire
Azathorian talking for like half an hour about hunter keeping the cake man awake smh
tacit crystal
all just to sand bag and a reevaluation of the tierlist to occur
sturdy wind
Max calling all the discord class peoples for tier. CritCakes just like: Warrior...
this should be the pined message
latent moss
Azathorian talking for like half an hour about hunter keeping the cake man awake...
azor sybau
mm in dobby tier
yeah bro its so bad
trust me
grave mulch
Azathorian talking for like half an hour about hunter keeping the cake man awake...
the comments for Azathorian
vast helm
glacial rapids
void bay
Stop using the gif I stole
spring heath
hey, so @long fern and I are really looking to learn how to push Arms warrior in raid settings, whats some advice folks can give when it comes to rotation and stats?
any help is appreciated as we wanna be swole
long fern
Thank you! 😄
rare kite
hey, so <@132678196398260224> and I are really looking to learn how to push Arms...
swap to fury. forreal tho if you're insisting on arms read the wowhead guide thoroughly, it's great
icy mulch
@magic canopy
I think the only useful thing Bran can be is a healer. Even that is meh.
magic canopy
hey, so <@132678196398260224> and I are really looking to learn how to push Arms...
ars is severly undertuned this patch i wouldnt reccomend it until it gets buffed
spring heath
i would question it more if it wasnt the fact you are also a one piece fan
you are a good person Madox
i can sense it
long fern
Giving me a lot to think about thanks.
magic canopy
<@110993922691477504>
I think the only useful thing Bran can be is a healer. Ev...
i just couldnt belive that brann legit got soloed by a single mob
spring heath
magic canopy
icy mulch
i just couldnt belive that brann legit got soloed by a single mob
Blizzard, should we ever expect logic?
spring heath
the true king who had arms for days Kuma
what did they nerf in the arms for this season?
brittle fiber
hey, so <@132678196398260224> and I are really looking to learn how to push Arms...
To minmax your rotation
Press your Specialisation & Talents window (default keybind being 'N') and you should have 3 big panels come up with "Arms, Fury and Protection" labelled respectfully. You want to click "select" at the bottom of the Fury panel
Alternatively, you can also run the command "/run SetSpecialization(GetSpecialization()==2 and 2 or 2)" and it should set you to Fury. Hope that helps
flat willow
so they got nerfed and blizzard thought "why not nerf arms while we are at it"
icy mulch
And Arms had a decent boost from S2 tier.
brittle fiber
so they got nerfed and blizzard thought "why not nerf arms while we are at it"
Sup garrosh
Why you playing udk over fdk lol
flat willow
udk is top tier too
magic canopy
what did they nerf in the arms for this season?
main thing is everything else got better and arms didnt really change
brittle fiber
You dont wanna play fury 2 sometime 3 button rotation?
brittle fiber
feels like every spec is becoming ret paladin
Yea at this point i’m unlikely to get midnight if this is the standard for end of xpac raiding
flat willow
big arms rework in 12.0 trust
icy mulch
Why do you think they released the one button rotation option.
They want to dumb the game down even more. Will be interesting when add-ons go bye bye.
brittle fiber
WoW coming full circle with final expansion having warlocks and mages spam shadowbolt and frostbolt respectively
dire hinge
hey, so <@132678196398260224> and I are really looking to learn how to push Arms...
play what you enjoy, and if you find that you're performing less than what you'd like to, you can always post logs in the #1347646810457636974 channel and folks are usually more than happy to help out where we can ❤️
other than that, just keep practicing and make sure to be kind to your bodies too! Good luck and let us know if you have any specific questions 🎉
latent moss
feels like every spec is becoming ret paladin
actually real
not enough people saying this
all specs just becoming
1 2 3 4 slop
dire hinge
hey every 20 seconds we refresh rend, we're different
shadow ibex
not enough people saying this
Specs are gonna just gonna be marvel rival characters. A few combo abilities
And an ult as your major offensive
latent moss
Specs are gonna just gonna be marvel rival characters. A few combo abilities
thats why i like rogues
tracking 9000 buffs debuffs
requires thought beyond are there 2 or more targets
press 2
otherwise 1
shadow ibex
Wait until they remove rage gen from autos as our primary source for arms
shadow ibex
That'll be the moment fundamental shift begins
Big news for us 19th with midnight reveal ofc
shadow ibex
I think that ship sailed
shadow ibex
Gonna be fun hoping for reworks while they make content for housing
untold trench
Arms now got castle doctorine, you now do 150% more dam while inside your house 🏠
brittle fiber
hey every 20 seconds we refresh rend, we're different
yea sorry sin rogue did it first
brittle fiber
true, i'm very tempted to switch to rogue at last second now as our raid team doesn't have one but idk how committed i am to learning sin rotation to only get AOTC this season
latent moss
true, i'm very tempted to switch to rogue at last second now as our raid team do...
its simple
on st
id say council fights
are theh ardest
cause u gotta keep all dots up manually
void bay
true, i'm very tempted to switch to rogue at last second now as our raid team do...
Switch to Aug and really throw a curve ball
latent moss
but u are playing sub
in raid 100%
not on all fights
but st/amp phase
= sub
or maybe after buffs it could be fatebound assa on st
brittle fiber
in raid 100%
council would favour sin over sub thought right?
i havent checked rogue numbers on retail in a while
brittle fiber
yea fuck that, just finna go thane and thunder clap n blood thirst council
latent moss
im just gonna get aotc week 1 and pug the rest of hte season
and do m+
maybe pug mythic at some point
in m+ if u get to restealth
legit idk how do u beat assa
brittle fiber
pug wk1 aotc when at least 2 of the bosses have wipeable mechanics?
latent moss
pug wk1 aotc when at least 2 of the bosses have wipeable mechanics? <:keks:93623...
not pugging week 1
type shit
just gonna get curve and vault ez
and ez to get into pug groups later
cba raiding
like ce
its just effort
brittle fiber
im mainly only doing it because i'ms till subbed for MoP
brittle fiber
yea it's getting to that point
i'm just in 10m on MoP so most stuff can be done in one night in like 2 hours
latent moss
ye for me the only enjoyable part is the first few weeks
getting gear upgrades progging bosses at low ilvl prenerf etc
but cba doing it for 5 months
brittle fiber
mythic raiding in retail's pretty gross when you have asswipes (respectfully) who will never time two m+10 let alone 1 for vault because they're just awful at mechanics
mortal niche
but every mythic raider is ce..right /s
latent moss
its actually crazy
how this isnt just like
low wr issue
even in higher wr like <400
u have people
who are legit blind
brittle fiber
ive been in 3 "CE pursuing" guilds where the RL barely had 2k rating
mortal niche
in my search for entering mythic this tier (that I didnt play) so many ..frankly bad guilds want ce
latent moss
ye cause its just a matter of not quitting
and waiting for blizz to gut everything
for 20 blind people to get it
brittle fiber
pre much
i wanted to get CE this expansion but mythic is the most drama i've ever seen in wow
mortal niche
finding guilds is so zzzz
latent moss
i wanna prog bosses prenerf but that requires raiding in a high wr guild which requires 3 days a week maybe 4 first few weeks. splits etc
and guilds that dont require that
brittle fiber
bad mythic players rival 40 year old dads in classic who stand in ragnaros lava for 4 seconds saying they were trying to find fire resistance pot in their bags
latent moss
im just not good enough for them
cause u got some random wr 20 warr
chilling there
raiding for 2 days a week
mortal niche
hell with mythic lockout changes I'll pug back to almost ce again (like I did in cn)
rare kite
hell with mythic lockout changes I'll pug back to almost ce again (like I did in...
What change?
tacit crystal
cause u got some random wr 20 warr
who tmy?
minor gust
never will die
nova marsh
It's jover
rare kite
how is arms looking guys
Giga cooked. It's prot season
swift plume
carmine iris
saw someone saying people had made a arms rework? Is that real/can anyone link that?
minor gust
arctic iris
Arms is so shit I hope they add triple heroic leap back into the game so we can dps with leap
Legs warrior
lean geode
arctic iris
My new copium is that the reason that Arms sucks is because they're working on a big rework and didn't want to make changes in the meantime because they would conflict with the rework
lean geode
toxic elm
Nobody is working on arms right now lol
blissful tree
„Hey Chat gpt make me a new arms warrior class tree. Anything will do. Greetings, your blizzard intern“
nova marsh
Guys
chat GPT has the collective power of the internet
it can design warr better then blizzard
slow saddle
Legion arms when
fresh spire
minor gust
halcyon valve
Tbh select any person in here at random and they could do arms better than blizzard does rn, because the bar is that low
slow saddle
Tunaing for arms pls
dry frost
gaunt owl
You are not supposed to eat the tuna
fresh spire
Pauckkkk
tacit crystal
2pacuL
minor gust
fresh spire
hollow plover
granite coral
Did warrias get buffed yet mi just wondering all cuz mi nuh wa ramp fury dis season
hot current
love getting out dpsed by frost dk and demo who are both 20 ilvl lower 😄
wooden lava
Don't worry bro, it's only gonna get worse from here
😀
Ur not too far off of them atm
But once u get new tier, just swap to Fury
hot current
cant play fury, just doesnt feel good for me personally
wooden lava
Idk bro
Maybe find some dirt on Ion
Threaten to expose him unless arms becomes top 3 spec in game
slow saddle
cant play fury, just doesnt feel good for me personally
Tbh then swap to fdk, and play the full aoe build
Its basucly what arms should.be🤣
granite coral
We aren’t asking for much, just top DPS in every situation
slow saddle
Heck id take top 10🤣
hollow plover
Heck id take top 10🤣
thats reserved for like 4 dk specs and 4 warlock specs
clear silo
has something changed to make us stop taking authority of depths enchant and now getting oathsworn / council
vast helm
mortal rivet
has something changed to make us stop taking authority of depths enchant and now...
Raw damage ends up losing value as the expansion goes on compared to raw stats
fresh spire
shadow ibex
Ye like saw dratnos guess comps
Can't wait for 0 dps war in rwf
Meanwhile tww is one of the best balanced expansions evar11!!!1
glacial rapids
dim basalt
The latter
fresh spire
St
dim basalt
Both are fine but more aoe is not always the best solution
fresh spire
Since you prio ms >op on aoe for cm stacks and demolish cdr
Value of overpower/dn falls a little for aoe
slow saddle
No
Slayers prio is cleave > op > ms
So op gains value from dreadnaught in aoe
U prob could. At a target count prob some value ngl
Slayer m+ is for memes
Its not optimized anyways
rare kite
no such thing as tyrannical weeks anymore
teal fossil
slow saddle
🤣
wanton sierra
im a +7 pusher!!!
frosty pike
someone explain the no-bleed armslayer to me