raidbots and warcraftlogs is about all the mental power I can donate here
#arms
nocturne hedge
lean geode
The integration between them is pretty seamless tbh, you can just go to the profile in github (which I linked to the folder above but you can find e.g. arms specifically here https://github.com/simulationcraft/simc/blob/thewarwithin/profiles/TWW3/TWW3_Warrior_Arms.simc ) and then you just copy that and paste it into raidbots
nocturne hedge
So are these just raidbots cranking out the same simulation for all classes and specs in essentially teh same gear?
lean geode
Yes
nocturne hedge
Ok, i'm following
lean geode
Theorycrafters generate the BIS lists, rotations, etc. and add them to those profiles
And the TWW3_Raid.html is just all of those profiles running for a 1 target 5 minute sim
nocturne hedge
that's pretty awesome the theorycrafters can manage that
wanton sierra
hey playing as colossus arms on dungeons i feel i blast on aoe but single target sucks
minor gust
welcome to S3 colossus
shadow ibex
isnt thane in st build as good as arms slayer ST? colossus ST gotta be like a prot war
in m+ build
lean geode
But ahead of arms M+ build
lean geode
isnt thane in st build as good as arms slayer ST? colossus ST gotta be like a pr...
Thane: 5.135M https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/dw7JirAghVkFCgUQmjqEUb
Arms M+ builds: 3.8-4.663M https://mimiron.raidbots.com/simbot/report/xuSNqveF8WL9qSuZrj3n6z
lean geode
alpine burrow
hey guys! can we still get this achievement/FoS?
"Let me Solo Him: The Underpin"
idk if it went away on Tuesday or if it goes away on S3 start
reef glade
it’s prolly gone
imagine can still fight him for some of the rewards
idk if mount skin locked behind that or a title or some shit
maybe both
silk spade
thank you swordish, very informative!!
fast wedge
hey playing as colossus arms on dungeons i feel i blast on aoe but single target...
do we actually “blast” on aoe?
sour forge
Demolish certainly does nuke packs in m0
mild hound
We don’t change anything until new 4pc eh?
soft gust
Is slayer going to be okay in M+ this season? Not a big fan of having to pick sks on colo
sour forge
What’s people’s issue with sks? It fits so well with Colo tier
sour forge
Doesn’t it take high prio when it’s off cd?
vast helm
modern veldt
sks very cringe
bold granite
arctic iris
It also causes Rend trackers to misjudge how long until you need to refresh
This is not the worst part about it, but it is annoying
It's a button that feels like it wants to be a burst button, but they won't let it actually be that (I think because of PvP burst reasons?) so it just feels awkward and bad
broken cove
sks doesnt really make sense in pvp
arctic iris
I don't really follow pvp discussions, but weren't there issues with it back when it actually consumed all of rend/DW to deal the damage instantly?
I thought that was part of why it got changed to make them tick faster instead
broken cove
maybe back then yeah but as of last season it just
shadow ibex
it wasnt a pvp issue just blizzard didnt like how you ahd to apply a full rend then reaply right after
broken cove
bleeds dont do enough damage to warrant taking sks/rend iirc
i mean that also felt like shit to do
sks is just a doodoo butt ability
arctic iris
Yeah, it was never a good idea for an ability
broken cove
and all of the spells that interact with "bleed warrior" are like
ur bleed does more damage.
your bleed has a chance to make your next x free
arctic iris
Although I think that the "consume bleeds" was at least kind of creative even if it felt like shit, so I don't blame them for the idea
What we have now is the worst of both worlds, it's a bad idea and it doesn't feel good to play
broken cove
dragons roar makes your bleeds do 5% more damage.
like really
low effort
nothing
shadow ibex
Although I think that the "consume bleeds" was at least kind of creative even if...
someone is a really big fan of their own idea for TR
broken cove
its just nothing
shadow ibex
only real reason i can think of
arctic iris
TR?
broken cove
also im not sure why SKS exists when CS exists and kind of does something
really similar
except by similar i mean backwards.
sour forge
I mean boosting damage on stuff that’s increased by 80% is pretty solid
Last I saw bleeds were like 25% of Colo overall
arctic iris
Arms just needs god in general
The spec has so many foundational design issues
arctic iris
Like the way that Cleave is stuck in this weird spot where it wants to be the AoE mortal strike (benefitting from overpower stacks and stuff), but then it also wants to be the AoE filler replacing whirlwind
broken cove
blows my mind how its so hard to design warrior to be fun when the fantasy of it
is
"guy who gets angry and hit hard with big weapons"
sour forge
Like the way that Cleave is stuck in this weird spot where it wants to be the Ao...
Wasn’t a main complaint of DF arms that the aoe prio was really clunky between cleave ww clap
shadow ibex
we didnt even use cleave all df tiers in m+
the aoe was a lot of buttons but i dont think any less than current colossus set up for aoe
buoyant hawk
Is Arms or Fury better ST before 4 set?
shadow ibex
DF was just chasing ways to proc tact since DN was all ur aoe dmg
so the aoe rotation being clunky isnt really best description. yea ur gonna be mashing tclap and IP in aoe but cuz they cost 40 rage and insta OP reset
throw in sks for more bloat
arctic iris
I guess my "smaller" wishlist for warrior if they're not gonna do a full rework would be something like this
- Cleave and Whirlwind swap places and damage values (so cleave is baseline, WW is a talent). Both now apply Deep Wounds, giving Arms a baseline way to apply it in an AoE and benefit from our mastery on multiple targets. Whirlwind is now an upgrade in terms of both damage and AoE "shape".
- Unhinged works with Sweeping Strikes again
- Thunder Clap now deals the same baseline damage as Rend (so you can take Rend off your bars if you have both without feeling bad unless you need to avoid AoEing for some niche reason)
- SS is off the GCD, and the duration pauses during bladestorm (similar to how some Outlaw durations pause during other buffs). Alternately, maybe make it so that it's stack-based rather than duration based so that you don't feel bad about using abilities that are already AoE. Possibly make the stack count increase with haste so it still scales?
- Increase rage gen significantly across the board as well as Slam's rage cost to turn it into a real rage dump. This will increase the viability of Test of Might and give better fuel for Anger Management.
- Delete spiteful serenity and replace it with something that's not stupid
- Adjust the Blunt Instruments/Warbreaker choice node so that we don't have to pick between good ST and being able to AoE.
- Delete Juggernaut or at least drastically reduce the max number of stacks so it's not as shitty if they drop
- Make it so you can move during Demolish, or just delete it from the game
Oh, and delete skullsplitter, obviously
I'd probably also want spear to be removed (probably make it a pvp talent?), because I live in fear of the day that it becomes optimal in PvE
shadow ibex
i think you can merge sks and cs
cs has nearly same cd cuz of AM
doesnt need to be another button esp if we gonna have to suffer sweep on global and how many buttons we gotta press to set up aoe
mortal niche
if sks applied rend ..sure why not but it's just another button
it exists because rend exists not because it should
wary bay
spiral coral
balmy kindle
Good gif 
sand kettle
sage bison
minor gust
wary bay
hybrid spear
dim basalt
nova marsh
I guess my "smaller" wishlist for warrior if they're not gonna do a full rework ...
+imma be honest chief cleaves are fine in shape
Espically because wows mobs by default clip into each other with their pathing to a degree....unlike 14 where they spread out in a damn circle around the tank
Also, grips exist
Also on your slam change....no dude
We then just circle back to the really cosmetic rage bar of df
mortal niche
I guess my "smaller" wishlist for warrior if they're not gonna do a full rework ...
mop made me realise there was a time ss was 0gcd, sadly at the cost of 30rage tho
balmy kindle
it's ok sirs theres weeks before S3 tier, surely we get buffs
dreamy spire
Although I think that the "consume bleeds" was at least kind of creative even if...
It way really fun the first few weeksin pvp.
Doing burst, target drops, sks, prob dead haha
But in pve kinda boring.
Maybe we nerdza proc on our bleeds, so double the ticks double the ammount of procs for whatever.
dreamy spire
I don't really follow pvp discussions, but weren't there issues with it back whe...
Yeah, was kinda broken. You could easily kill people when they were on like 40/50% hp. Popping cds, refresh rend, sks, dead
mortal niche
double gcd locking it behind rend is a crime
grave mulch
weak wave
My 662 MM hunter VS my 684 Colossus warrior on the 5 dummies in Dornogal 😬
dreamy spire
My 662 MM hunter VS my 684 Colossus warrior on the 5 dummies in Dornogal 😬
rip
dich kenn ich doch ausm wow forum, hehe
weak wave
Gut möglich 😄
fresh spire
dim basalt
grand lark
Guys I have a question but how much does both overpower and mortal strike cost, which spell takes precedence? Thnks
narrow flax
overpower is free
mortal niche
MS not costing rage would be nice
weak wave
Fury dead too?
dry frost
Does colossus 4p make mastery higher value cause more bleed damage?
Or is it so minor it doesn’t matter
grand lark
Sometimes it happens to me that when I pull overpower the ms proc has timed out, do I still give priority to overpower?
vale gorge
Does colossus 4p make mastery higher value cause more bleed damage?
You need crit for stack then haste because haste, even with 4 part
grave mulch
quaint otter
Does colossus 4p make mastery higher value cause more bleed damage?
Colossus values mastery by default
fresh spire
quaint otter
magic lantern
myrmidon
icy mulch
boreal quartz
glacial rapids
Dwarf master race or human?
dim basalt
Female human
weak rain
whats the question, velf of course
glacial rapids
but stoneform... trade off is looking like a metal meatball?
spiral coral
Tbh both good, Dwarf better-er imo
arctic iris
Dwarf is definitely better in M+
spiral coral
Dwarf racial for a bleed cleanse alone
vast helm
thick kelp
Dwarf for bis dps
sage badge
Fat human
naive sage
They should remove all racial abilities and make them just cosmetic
dim basalt
If only they didnt share a cd...
slow saddle
They should remove all racial abilities and make them just cosmetic
I disagree, make degens pay for race change every season
wanton sierra
i think racials should have more impact in the game
i dont like the fact that meld and stoneform are ally OP... every race should have that kind of button that helps, heals, invs idk
glacial rapids
Yeah, I won't lie. I would love to have access to stoneform but play a race that looks better in transmog or has better animations.
latent moss
ye
wanton sierra
hey im dwarf
spiral coral
i think racials should have more impact in the game
more?
WE GONNA GET BUFFED TODAY
wanton sierra
how do you know, big noz?
spiral coral
how do you know, big noz?
I don't know, there's just zero fucking way Arms doesn't get something
mortal niche
I disagree, make degens pay for race change every season
in a just world the new* allied races wouldnt already be p2w to
spiral coral
right? 
wanton sierra
I don't know, there's just zero fucking way Arms doesn't get *something*
i think they consider us the cornerstone of balance... so all classes get tunning and fixes around us
slow saddle
i think they consider us the cornerstone of balance... so all classes get tunnin...
We are top 3 st dps
spiral coral
yeah and donuts are a cornerstone of a healthy diet too
spiral coral
LOL
slow saddle
🤣
spiral coral
actually lol'd ty
slow saddle
Keep in mind posted by our boomkin
wanton sierra
I don't know, there's just zero fucking way Arms doesn't get *something*
you jinxed it!
slow saddle
He cant even sim 3m
willow lance
Gold
spiral coral
I feel like this season is going to be a super hard pugging season lol
poor solo players
wanton sierra
im pugger, if you are not meta you shall suffer
spiral coral
dawg don't do that
wanton sierra
what should i do, big noz?
spiral coral
i dm'd you ❤️
olive nest
Pugging always stinks
spiral coral
I'm trying to change solo players one at a time.
wanton sierra
Pugging always stinks
true! i mean... with time, if you got patiance, you start to know ppl, also puggers... and ppl start to invite you, but its true pain
spiral coral
I disagree, make degens pay for race change every season
Dwarf lookin op in m+ this season. So many bleeds.
I like my orc too much tho
wanton sierra
zug zug
lament elbow
wanton sierra
damn someone told me to put my home at tazavesh, damn it sucks, ill be back resident at dornogal
olive nest
Indeed
slow saddle
Id rather play an alt a bit
olive nest
Wonder how many weeks of weeklies we’ll have to do to get 18
slow saddle
Facts
olive nest
More campaign quests too so might not be that long but I’m not sure
slow saddle
Its 8 this week r
olive nest
Mines like 3 without doing any side quests or the dungeon quest lol
slow saddle
Mines at 5?
olive nest
All the side quests must give a lot
fresh spire
glacial rapids
my rep is half way between 8 and 9 atm
wanton sierra
hey why i cant find tazavesh on group finder
icy mulch
Cause it's not open.
spiral coral
yeah
dim basalt
Huh?
spiral coral
wanton sierra
Cause it's not open.
oh ty
icy mulch
olive nest
Expecting to get buffs as a warrior
wanton sierra
ok its our turn! lets get those juicy buffs! ^^ hehehe ill take care of my farmm at pandaria
olive nest
spiral coral
balmy kindle
https://tenor.com/view/donald-john-trump-im-gonna-come-gif-25102111
TACO TIME
sleek crow
born to play arms forced to play fury
plain latch
Will we be buffed or not
ofc 
sour swan
For m+ its still crit haste yea?
gusty nymph
sim it
minor gust
<@&257983573498265600>
balmy kindle
? bannn
naive sage
minor gust
olive nest
naive sage
my rep is half way between 8 and 9 atm
How? I just barely hit 5
Did you do non-campaign quests?
quasi sapphire
I refuse to believe the countless videos on yt saying arms is only C-B- tier in M+
please tell me they are wrong
dim basalt
please tell me they are wrong
Theyre not
sleek crow
id say theyre wrong
olive nest
Lowkey
spiral coral
sleek crow
because i dont see a way someone could put arms into b tier
dim basalt
because i dont see a way someone could put arms into b tier
You had me in the first half
spiral coral
Im playing arms cause im burned out on fury idc
quasi sapphire
Yeah I like arms warrior, granted the highest key I did was only a +11
sleek crow
play arms then
quasi sapphire
will def play it
minor gust
Yeah I like arms warrior, granted the highest key I did was only a +11
Then play arms. You're not at the lvl that what you play matters.
sleek crow
Yeah I like arms warrior, granted the highest key I did was only a +11
every tier list you will ever see is for high keys
quasi sapphire
What key level is considered high keys where comp fully matters? 20+?
sleek crow
like 14+
dim basalt
Id say 17+
dim basalt
But at 17 upwards you do feel a difference with a better comp
wanton sierra
please tell me they are wrong
they are wrong, arms is contra intuitive class so ppl that dont main it think that its weak, but gamers who dominate arms may excel
minor gust
But at 17 upwards you do feel a difference with a better comp
It doesn't matter what you play till the 20s
dim basalt
they are wrong, arms is contra intuitive class so ppl that dont main it think th...
Nah thats gaslighting
quasi sapphire
Thanks for the advices! I had always mained assasination rogue and hunter so warr is something new for me
dim basalt
Why swap away from assa?
wanton sierra
why thats gayslightnig?
dim basalt
Because what youre saying is straight up wrong
People say arms is weak because it is weak
quasi sapphire
Why swap away from assa?
Made a terrible mistake, played classic and didnt level rogue from DF
And leveled my warrior during MoP remix and found it fun
minor gust
candid pecan
pulsar kindle
can someone give me the secret Degen strat for rep? ive done everything listed with dmf rep buff and only at 9, I don't understand how some people are at 11?
rare kite
And leveled my warrior during MoP remix and found it fun
unfortunate coming back to this version of arms
tardy hare
It doesn't matter what you play till the 20s
This is just bad advice you’re not playing slayer arms in keys higher than 16s maybe unless you want people to hate you
minor gust
You got no idea what's going on if you think that's true
rare kite
nr 1 warrior in m+ s1 tww was slayer(iykyk)
icy mulch
This is just bad advice you’re not playing slayer arms in keys higher than 16s m...
Unless tuning changes again, we won't bother playing slayer for anything above a 12.
tardy hare
You got no idea what's going on if you think that's true
I have three titles man
boreal quartz
No one trusted him
rare kite
well he was nr 1 so must have known something we don't. what a gamer
minor gust
I have three titles man
Boosted?
daring heron
xd
icy mulch
nr 1 warrior in m+ s1 tww was slayer(iykyk)
Are you talking about the Chinese player? 
boreal quartz
Per chance
rare kite
hahah maybe
minor gust
daring heron
i was boosted in both tww seasons ngl
icy mulch
Layne boosted, totally.
daring heron
feelswarriorman
boreal quartz
xd
Critical pastry are you following your father revvez (of which you are 0.25) and gearing critwl
daring heron
xd
daring heron
Critical pastry are you following your father revvez (of which you are 0.25) and...
no
minor gust
silk spade
talking about buying title? in skyhold of all places
boreal quartz
top 10 warrior in skyhold based on leadership and big data
silk spade
wowee
wanton sierra
ppl said to me that chinese wow doesnt have RNG, or anything that is close to ~cassino~... is that true? they dont have the thrill to open the vault?
rare kite
i think crit will go havoc dh with me and moon
boreal quartz
talking about buying title? in skyhold of all places
Wrong spec channel for that zhai57
daring heron
i think crit will go havoc dh with me and moon
i think not
silk spade
Wrong spec channel for that zhai57
actually true
teal fossil
ppl said to me that chinese wow doesnt have RNG, or anything that is close to ~c...
Sounds like fake news
wanton sierra
damn, im the king of fake news, ppl say to me and i belive it!
shadow ibex
ppl said to me that chinese wow doesnt have RNG, or anything that is close to ~c...
Iirc its very different in some ways. Like a different subscription model and ilvls?
wanton sierra
what ive head is that they dont need to be lucky, they just choose the gear and they get bis faster coz we need to be lucky... something like that
fathom mauve
is arms cooked this tier?
fathom mauve
what're we waiting for?
fathom mauve
ah i see
candid pecan
what're we waiting for?
tuning today
fathom mauve
gotcha ty
rare kite
what're we waiting for?
a rework in the longterm. a buff in the shortterm
olive nest
China has strict gambling laws or something like that right? Isn’t that why their loot is not random
wanton sierra
its probably it brewjj, im not sure
fathom mauve
is skull splitter a must take with the new tier set too?
candid pecan
is skull splitter a must take with the new tier set too?
as colossus? yes, as slayer? no
fathom mauve
as colossus? **yes**, as slayer? **no**
Sorry yeah should've specified
teal fossil
what ive head is that they dont need to be lucky, they just choose the gear and ...
Sounds also like a lie
Their RWF just maintains much more characters
They also raid for “24 hours a day”
wanton sierra
would be nice to have an chinese here that knows those things ^^ ir i mean, any ppl from oceanic side
teal fossil
Wait no I’m 100% sure there’s a vault in China
There’s a Chinese person in the ret pal discord
That I instigate
And he showed his vault
So therefore there must be a vault in China
Thanks for reminding me
He shows his vault every week
wanton sierra
hm so its the same of ours version... ty hekili
wanton sierra
3% xD
rare kite
it's a classic
thick hamlet
how's slayer arms feeling in m+ for you people
i heard it might be competitive with colossus this season, and it's been fun
thick hamlet
the only problem i've faced is consuming marked for death stacks in aoe is a chore, and u can't not do it for the BS cdr
wary raft
gaunt owl
midnight kraken
smoky kayak
what ive head is that they dont need to be lucky, they just choose the gear and ...
This is completely untrue
The cn version of modern wow is basically identical
sacred zodiac
spiral coral
vast helm
final patch notes later ?
shadow ibex
Today and Monday for buffs
wanton sierra
This is completely untrue
i didnt knew, if it is on the internet, it must be true xD
icy mulch
i didnt knew, if it is on the internet, it must be true xD
Must be true, must be true!
swift crown
cold venture
heavy patio
shadow ibex
minor gust
olive nest
spring rampart
minor gust
viral locust
shadow ibex
heavy patio
oh, butt stuff guy from diablo 4 is gone now
smoky kayak
heavy patio
Mr Malignant Tunnel
proud iron
brother what are you saying
minor gust
He's talking about his malignant tunnel
proud iron
o word
devout pewter
He should see a doctor for that I guess
errant chasm
Is getting shields as rewards from weekly caches when you're in arms loot spec a new thing? I know you can get 1hand weapons if your loot spec is set to fury but I've never experienced this as arms
void bay
oh, butt stuff guy from diablo 4 is gone now
butt stuff guy?
heavy patio
is it a warbound piece?
errant chasm
is it a warbound piece?
no, soulbound from the nightfall event
heavy patio
butt stuff guy?
Fergusson, the dude who made the malignant tunnel joke infront of like 50,000 people
errant chasm
veteran track from the weekly
void bay
Fergusson, the dude who made the malignant tunnel joke infront of like 50,000 p...
idk who that is
heavy patio
Weird, never had that issue; are you absolutely certain it wasn't set to prot?
errant chasm
yup, checked it before the event started and also right before I opened the reward
heavy patio
The only time I ever got the wrong loot spec shit was back in legion, got an arms legendary instead of fury
plain latch
Is getting shields as rewards from weekly caches when you're in arms loot spec a...
i got an outlaw wep as assa loot
so probably
heavy patio
i really wish they'd lift those damn restrictions eventually
when i used to play sin rogue and got anything that wasn't a dagger was always pissed
errant chasm
i got an outlaw wep as assa loot
sometimes it feels intentional just to slow down the gearing process to be honest
heavy patio
Even thought the reality of why its like is that theres prob some dev who was like 'maybe I should give chance of other weapon types to help get those mogs'
plain latch
sometimes it feels intentional just to slow down the gearing process to be hones...
my warrior got a cloak so
heavy patio
That is defintely not supposed to happen
errant chasm
Even thought the reality of why its like is that theres prob some dev who was li...
the shield also has intellect so it's even weirder
plain latch
xD
heavy patio
well actually, technically we're not season 3 yet
so maybe the loot rules are all fucked till then
smoky kayak
sometimes it feels intentional just to slow down the gearing process to be hones...
you'll like the real reason even less - it's meant to softly push players to try other things
get assa daggers? Hmm maybe I should try Assa for a little while
get a shield? Oh maybe I should go Prot!
errant chasm
you'll like the real reason even less - it's meant to softly push players to try...
so by giving me an intellect shield they want me to play shaman I guess
which I can't give the shaman because it's soulbound
smoky kayak
it's not for hardcore min/max players, it's for the many many more players out there who haven't already decided what they wanna play
there's zero shot you got a soulbound int-shield from a weekly cache
a warbound one, sure, that goes back to the same point
errant chasm
the radiant service satchel doesn't give warbound gear afaik
plain latch
post pic or it didnt happen
smoky kayak
which one is radiant service? is that the nightfall thing?
errant chasm
yes
errant chasm
post pic or it didnt happen
smoky kayak
p sure nightfall stuff is just mog at this point
plain latch
my brother
errant chasm
smoky kayak
also that's a strength shield
plain latch
it says strenght
heavy patio
no, thats prot warrior
plain latch
they gonna nerf arms just for that man
heavy patio
I mean, if bleeds get nerfed I'm completely fine with that as it justifies me playing slayer no rend even further
smoky kayak
so by giving me an intellect shield they want me to play shaman I guess
really know how to undermine your own argument, don't you? 
errant chasm
really know how to undermine your own argument, don't you? <a:KEKWlaughslow:6501...
I'm in arms loot spec
smoky kayak
smoky kayak
let's restart this conversation, shall we? #arms message
you'll like the real reason even less - it's meant to softly push players to try other things
get assa daggers? Hmm maybe I should try Assa for a little while
get a shield? Oh maybe I should go Prot!
now you say
so by giving me an intellect shield they want me to play shaman I guess
which I can't give the shaman because it's soulbound
except we know that's not true, it is a strength shield, which goes back to my original point
errant chasm
look at your other gear pieces they all say intellect
only reshii cloak and goblin waist
plain latch
not tset pieces
heavy patio
Don't cache's bypass your typical loot rules too because caches have a pre determined array of loot in them already
errant chasm
Don't cache's bypass your typical loot rules too because caches have a pre deter...
in terms of loot specs it's my understanding that if you're fury you can avoid getting 1-handers as rewards if you set your loot spec to arms for example
plain latch
read what archie wrote
young loom
hey guys i just killed kyveza ?? with arms 675 ilvl I posted in the promotion channel if you want to see! (im a bad slayer)
livid dove
candid briar
Does arms play any different in s3 than last season? First time playing it and there is an unsurprising lack of video guide content considering how behind it looks.
candid briar
Ty brother, and I will ignore the user name lmao
thick kelp
More of a nod that I am playing arms this season instead of fury
candid briar
Yeah I read over it but also like to see visually while eating dinner and such
Oh haha gotcha
thick kelp
Maybe @magic canopy will make an arms guide in video format but idek, its so bad why bother type of deal
magic canopy
arms blow up
candid briar
Ye for sure. I tank in m+, hated fury last season, and don't raid competitively enough to play it just because it's better this season
candid briar
arms blow up
Sick pfp btw
magic canopy
ty
spiral coral
I've been playing arms 
idc
glacial rapids
I've been playing arms <a:chatting:1266019851743399996> idc
olive lance
The Arms Warriors never give up. Til death do we part. 💪🏾✌🏽
vast helm
fresh spire
any tuna enjoyers
static quest
trail sage
candid briar
weak rain
where buff
shadow ibex
spiral coral
shadow ibex
grim haven
Gute Nacht Schlaf schön und träum was schönes bis morgen 🌕🌛🌟✨⭐🌚🌝💫
void bay
plain violet
dull osprey
glad furnace
granite coral
icy mulch
weak rain
no, looks like no changes today, perfect balance
void bay
https://tenor.com/view/fox-gif-25805627
Don't foxes stink real bad?
void bay
no, looks like no changes today, perfect balance
I doubt they will change anything til this rwf thing ends but idk
weak rain
I doubt they will change anything til this rwf thing ends but idk
bro have you seen class balance? It's worst it's ever been for like 5 years
I think
icy mulch
Don't foxes stink real bad?
Kinda? They mark everything, so they certainly have that musk stink.
void bay
bro have you seen class balance? It's worst it's ever been for like 5 years
It's fine... Not arms though
weak rain
no, it's not
void bay
Kinda? They mark everything, so they certainly have that musk stink.
Fricking Elon!!
icy mulch
lol, nah, Elon is that dirty Corpo stank.
icy mulch
I always imagine that smells like really bad deodorant/perfume that just lets the BO stink blend into it.
fresh spire
mortal rivet
also rip no arms buff
candid pecan
bro...
red lichen
LOL
vast helm
mortal rivet
but its ok enh got lots of buffs so blizz got all the melee
fresh spire
shadow ibex
this spec is fuckin cursed lmao
lost flare
shadow ibex
last minute tuning
lucid gull
Let the (completely reasonable) Dooming commence.
mortal crag
minor gust
candid pecan
fucking NOTHING...
pliant geyser
vast helm
WE ARE JOKE
modern veldt
genuinely a fucking joke lol
hot cypress
icy mulch
icy mulch
Sorry boys and girls. No love for Arms.
mortal crag
Simply reroll so they see arms is dead and they REWORK IT TO BE FUN
vast helm
Armsless
sudden fox
No arms buff is wild
night mulch
shadow ibex
not even a lazy 3% aura
absolutely nothing is wild
fervent stratus
hopefully this way arms can fall underneath balance
minor gust
hollow axle
fervent stratus
vast helm
shadow ibex
i need to see them justify only changes for a spec being hamstring
rapid bronze
Thank God they fixed prot doing well
shadow ibex
Such a weird change too
create something so they appear in notes instead of not at all
that way you can say see we made changes to warrior
sudden fox
Thank God they fixed prot doing well
Theyll still do well
weak rain
excuse me
vast helm
It makes us feel like we are begging, which is really disrespectful to the players.
weak rain
where the fuck is arms buff
rapid bronze
Oh nvm it’s just a small ionising strikes nerf
snow flame
shadow ibex
got to see boomie sandbag work in real time
misty sandal
spark epoch
gusty nymph
serene canyon
drifting heart
shadow ibex
yea pretty pathetic
shadow ibex
they knew boomie was "bad" but completely missed arms
candid pecan
3rd season when arms is mediocre/bad
WTF
scammed
SCAMMEd
we got scammed
refund TWW
misty sandal
Okay, arms wasn't bad in s2
fresh spire
weak rain
well, at least with boomie and enha buffs arms can be the first class
the first at the bottom
radiant lion
vast helm
wispy escarp
Maybe they just want us to tank.
minor gust
you mean fury yeah
weak rain
I believe they just forgot about us at this point
mild dagger
weak rain
noway they buff enha and boomy, but not arms
icy mulch
Yup, Enhance gets a giga buff, Druid a large 8%, and Arms a big ol goose egg.
wispy escarp
I already bought my shield. Farewell lads.
sudden fox
Blizz wanting us to play a target capped spec 
shadow ibex
Curious # of arm parses in raid on Tuesday
warped spade
Curious # of arm parses in raid on Tuesday
what arms parses
icy mulch
Curious # of arm parses in raid on Tuesday
The 5-12 hold outs.
modern veldt
Curious # of arm parses in raid on Tuesday
i'd say maybe 30 total in the whole worldd
I might try it for one boss lol
half vine
thank god balance got buffed
candid pecan
8% back to back
river ridge
Curious # of arm parses in raid on Tuesday
There's probably gonna be a decent amount. Not worth swapping till you have 4P
minor gust
not worth wdym fury is better right now xd
river ridge
Not by a ton. Unless you're going for RWF you can play Arms till you nab your tier bonuses
minor gust
of course you can play what you want doesnt matter if its bad or not
always better to stick with something you enjoy than swap
latent moss
Over the first few days of Ghosts of K’aresh content, we’ve been closely monitoring class balance and identifying specializations that are beginning to over- or under-perform in group content and in PvP. With scheduled weekly maintenance in each region, we’ll make the following changes.
AHHAHAHAHAH
minor gust
Over the first few days of Ghosts of K’aresh content, we’ve been closely monitor...
Dont forget that they can tune tier sets for specific specs but actively chose not too for colossus 🙂
weak rain
fresh spire
Guys we tuned around m0 and open world questing
😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
latent moss
Over the first few days of Ghosts of K’aresh content, we’ve been closely monitoring class balance and identifying specializations that are beginning to over- or under-perform in group content and in PvP. With scheduled weekly maintenance in each region, we’ll make the following changes.
fresh spire
Fucking ridiculous
grave mulch
weak rain
Demolishing thise m0s
fresh spire
Over the first few days of Ghosts of K’aresh content, we’ve been closely monitoring class balance and identifying specializations that are beginning to over- or under-perform in group content and in PvP. With scheduled weekly maintenance in each region, we’ll make the following changes.
weak rain
(even in m0 arms does 0 st)
minor gust
Over the first few days of Ghosts of K’aresh content, we’ve been closely monitoring class balance and identifying specializations that are beginning to over- or under-perform in group content and in PvP. With scheduled weekly maintenance in each region, we’ll make the following changes.
half vine
at this point they might as well tune arms around pet battles
fresh spire
Arms felt fuckin shit in m0 this week
sour forge
fresh spire
clever lichen
fresh spire
Loved when my dk buddy evaporated trash
grave mulch
fresh spire
void bay
Arms felt fuckin shit in m0 this week
Were you last on dps?
fresh spire
Ofc
weak rain
Well, I did some wq as arms and oneshotted 3 mobs with 1 demolish, so we are fine
shadow ibex
wait wait wait wait wait wait
how are they monitoring a tier bonus prot doesnt have
weak rain
fresh spire
Yep
shadow ibex
excuse me blizzard
fresh spire
Over the first few days of Ghosts of K’aresh content, we’ve been closely monitoring class balance and identifying specializations that are beginning to over- or under-perform in group content and in PvP. With scheduled weekly maintenance in each region, we’ll make the following changes.
grave mulch
Over the first few days of Ghosts of K’aresh content, we’ve been closely monitoring class balance and identifying specializations that are beginning to over- or under-perform in group content and in PvP. With scheduled weekly maintenance in each region, we’ll make the following changes.
latent moss
Over the first few days of Ghosts of K’aresh content, we’ve been closely monitoring class balance and identifying specializations that are beginning to over- or under-perform in group content and in PvP. With scheduled weekly maintenance in each region, we’ll make the following changes.
weak rain
Over the first few days of Ghosts of K’aresh content, we’ve been closely monitoring class balance and identifying specializations that are beginning to over- or under-perform in group content and in PvP. With scheduled weekly maintenance in each region, we’ll make the following changes.
icy mulch
Over the first few days of Ghosts of K’aresh content, we’ve been closely monitoring class balance and identifying specializations that are beginning to over- or under-perform in group content and in PvP. With scheduled weekly maintenance in each region, we’ll make the following changes.
shadow ibex
so they know prot was good with 4pc even tho no prot has it but dont know arms is healing mobs
hallow panther
Over the first few days of Ghosts of K’aresh content, we’ve been closely monitoring class balance and identifying specializations that are beginning to over- or under-perform in group content and in PvP. With scheduled weekly maintenance in each region, we’ll make the following changes.
errant goblet
Over the first few days of Ghosts of K’aresh content, we’ve been closely monitoring class balance and identifying specializations that are beginning to over- or under-perform in group content and in PvP. With scheduled weekly maintenance in each region, we’ll make the following changes.
fresh spire
Bad crop abort
icy mulch
vernal briar
Hey! look at the less dark side, at least no nerf
hallow panther
fresh spire
We're so back
grave mulch
warped owl
minor gust
icy mulch
potent creek
vernal briar
minor gust
My piano is also undertuned
icy mulch
I broke a string on my hurdy gurdy.
minor gust
tacit crystal
exotic knot
hasty vault
latent moss
Over the first few days of Ghosts of K’aresh content, we’ve been closely monitoring class balance and identifying specializations that are beginning to over- or under-perform in group content and in PvP. With scheduled weekly maintenance in each region, we’ll make the following changes.
hexed snow
grave mulch
nova marsh
https://i.imgflip.com/a2lrdf.gif
Arms:
All abilitiy damage reduced by 5%
developer's note: LMAO
balmy kindle
Arms taking a step off a cliff
Blizz : ok guys, we should probably nerf fury
hot current
can we all just unsub
vernal briar
Devoker is de way, join us. Engulf is new mortal arms warrior
latent moss
so theres changes, cant wait for the buffs
Over the first few days of Ghosts of K’aresh content, we’ve been closely monitoring class balance and identifying specializations that are beginning to over- or under-perform in group content and in PvP. With scheduled weekly maintenance in each region, we’ll make the following changes.
sour forge
12.0
mortal niche
back to mop I guess
minor gust
balmy kindle
Devoker is de way, join us. Engulf is new mortal arms warrior
Dev is fun but its a piece of paper 
fair tinsel
Don't worry, surely they'll push an emergency hotfix for a warrior specialization!
minor gust
left talon
limpid lotus
frosty bluff
Where does one find dps comparisons on the ptr or whatever is relevant to now? Fury > Arms? but why?
rare kite
Where does one find dps comparisons on the ptr or whatever is relevant to now? F...
coz fury tierset for thane is big good. in undermine arms had a pretty decent tierset and fury had a doodoo tierset
frosty bluff
Ahh alright
wispy escarp
Two sword better than one sword
compact rover
echo marten
Guys to let u know u can upgrade your fiber on your rashi .
grave mulch
Guys to let u know u can upgrade your fiber on your rashi .
Wow no way
sour forge
Guys to let you know. Arms is deadge
sudden fox
nice knowin ya
midnight kraken
thick kelp
grave mulch
minor gust
nocturne saddle
idle warren
anyone know if the criteria for this is 678 or 681? Someone said that the 681 is misleading and a remnant from when they increased ilvl caps middle of last season.
vast helm
thick kelp
vast helm
slow saddle
Arms doesnt rly crash, until ppl have new 4p
vast helm
sage bison
slow saddle
Fr this deathless 1 mythic piece a week dungeon cant stand
Its insane gearing difference
brittle pelican
Its insane gearing difference
not really, you are still limited by crests
sour forge
Its insane gearing difference
For who
brittle pelican
it will cause more impact closer to midseason
but who cares mythic raiders already had that
nocturne briar
The best will get rewarded for their effort 🤷♂️
sour forge
It’s dungeon only players dream
sour forge
Why would it be insane diff for you
slow saddle
When u have 6/7 raiders who will never be able to do this?
Besides a dungeon not on timer
brittle pelican
no timer is the most degen thing there
slow saddle
Smells like a lot of waiting
brittle pelican
waiting for lust playing 5 tanks etc
slow saddle
U can change specs as.well
Like nothing fun will come from this
Add a timer, and yes its way better
sour forge
When u have 6/7 raiders who will never be able to do this?
You’ll still get gear for raid though. This is a good thing for dungeon players
sour forge
It’s gonna be scary for pug
But if you have access to a steady group you’ll do it for sure
slow saddle
Its gonna be a shitshow
And yes its prob pug life
🤣
But once we get 4p on all cjars
sour forge
Are the reqs kinda steep? Sure I’ll agree to that. But this is still a potential extra myth piece per week
slow saddle
I reckon we outscale itnpretty fast
sour forge
Oh absolutely
Also no affix afaik
Like people already ran 12s for weekly vault stuff
I can’t imagine it’ll be worse than that
slow saddle
And died a lot
Man dont think many of my pug runs didnt hard turds dieng to meme mechanics or trash
And dungeon is pretty long no?
1 hour?
sour forge
Oh there was for sure shit shows
But a lot of that is dying to trash massive pulls
You can take it slow
sour forge
It’s for a myth piece. I’m down
sour forge
I mean people prog myth raid for longer
slow saddle
But reward makes .. well with good 5man team
Prob fun
Its a me issue
I vibe 100% with the shitters of my guild
slow saddle
So i gotta choose
sour forge
Especially early on
slow saddle
Its what classic playera wanted
Wonder if, u die, u can use another char?
Or kick him just b4 last boss dies
sour forge
If someone dies I think whole group loses the buff
fresh spire
daring heron
sour forge
Is it getting faster
daring heron
slow saddle
untold pewter
vast helm
boreal quartz
thick kelp
halcyon grove
Im not one trick arms or anything but im getting sick of this nonesense
halcyon valve
i will simply play arms anyway
I got 3 CE by only playing arms, im not gonna stop now
fresh spire
latent moss
ancient vector
Joined the disc last night cuz i wanted to main arms in s3... Guess I'll reconsider
fresh spire
drifting geode
fresh spire
untold pewter
Joined the disc last night cuz i wanted to main arms in s3... Guess I'll reconsi...
Just play it we'll be fine
This dooming happens every tier
fresh spire
i think the dooming is on such a funny level though compared to normal
pretty wild
dim basalt
ikr
shy tide
devout zinc
icy mulch
i think the dooming is on such a funny level though compared to normal
It's because we've just gotten to the point where none of us care anymore. So we laugh instead of trying to do something productive to fix it.
limber cove
balmy kindle
balmy kindle
It's only week 1 , we still good with S2 tier set
sharp wyvern
nah boomies still dooming after buffs
thick kelp
they could be best class ingame and still doom
slow saddle
Facts
sharp wyvern
well now they are complaining about being middle of the pack
cause that means basically a dead class
slow saddle
Yup
I still have that mm qoute
We have bad utility
So we should do 20% more dmg
20% ...
latent moss
I still have that mm qoute
i have a better quote
"Over the first few days of Ghosts of K’aresh content, we’ve been closely monitoring class balance and identifying specializations that are beginning to over- or under-perform in group content and in PvP. With scheduled weekly maintenance in each region, we’ll make the following changes."
even in m0 arms feels shit
slow saddle
Nah
Its ok
Ofc i do better on fdk. That im playing mid at best🤣, and is not great in weird pulls
🤣
glacial rapids
We have bad utility
The majority of hunters don't know what utility they have let alone use it. No wonder they think that way.
slow saddle
The majority of hunters don't know what utility they have let alone use it. No w...
Facts
static grove
Is execute supposed to feel sad in aoe content, I miss exe precision but I no have enough points for fun?
slow saddle
Its like dks askin for raid buff, when amz is rly strong now😅
glacial rapids
Is execute supposed to feel sad in aoe content, I miss exe precision but I no ha...
Pretty sure you're not using execute in aoe unless you're running the slayer build.
latent moss
Is execute supposed to feel sad in aoe content, I miss exe precision but I no ha...
yes
latent moss
Nah
idk i did one as arms and other as fury and fury feels 50x better
could be a low level issue but fury felt much better on ptr too
weak rain
slow saddle
Arms felt clunky last season
slow saddle
Well i die on the hill that shared hero talents was a mistake
Slayer feels bad on arms, better on fury
Col feels like a arms spec, but never chosen for raid.