Arms is overall weaker than fury season 3
#arms
wicked oak
Thanks
storm lark
Arms is gonna get 10% aura buff, trust
candid pecan
Waalpen is doing a sandbagging tierlist 
thick kelp
I think feral should be in the no good apl section
cunning comet
What is a sandbagging
dreamy spire
i dont care - playing arms main for 15,5 years. Doesnt matter how bad it is, i stick my love. I dont change my spec/class, just because its not meta.
lucid thicket
i dont care - playing arms main for 15,5 years. Doesnt matter how bad it is, i s...
We call that Stockholm Syndrome
cunning comet
Imposter syndrome
Asberger syndrome
Idk any more syndromes
No wait
Down sydrome
lucid thicket
Nah, Imposter Syndrome is when you play Arms and Spooky Arms is outperforming you
cunning comet
Quite peculiar
Down syndrome is when you pop all your cds as arms and still go down the damage meter
lucid thicket
dim basalt
When the BRM does as much damage as you in keys
cunning comet
Up syndrome
lucid thicket
When the BRM does as much damage as you in keys
That's a bad Brew, he should be doing more
dim basalt
Overall?
In burst for sure, but overall should be somewhat even
Lowkey stupid brew can burst like 30M on PTR
alpine idol
i was so excited to get back into wow and play my fav class/spec
only to be greeted with arms warrior memes lmao
cunning comet
If it's a video
Oh phil i want to do a key with you so baaaaad 😩 😩 😩 😩 😩
void bay
Down sydrome
which syndromes do you have and what is your favourite
latent moss
same pauck
cunning comet
which syndromes do you have and what is your favourite
List of syndromes - Wikipedia https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_syndromes idk what my favourite is
boreal quartz
Oh phil i want to do a key with you so baaaaad 😩 😩 😩 😩 😩
Maybe later today
I need a 10 but i also need to finish my delve belt
On hunter
nimble girder
Hey yall. Just was curious why arms is at the bottom of all these tier lists I’ve been watching. Are we getting nerfed or is it mainly we just aren’t getting the changes that are wanted? ~Returning player
And I’m mainly speaking of m+
cunning comet
Hi it doesnt do damage and feels dogshit to play i think but @latent moss might be a bit more versed in this topic
boreal quartz
Other classes also get omega fat sets
lucid thicket
Hey yall. Just was curious why arms is at the bottom of all these tier lists I’v...
Negative damage, no real tier set
Fury is just better
shadow ibex
Lmao the changes people wanted
lucid thicket
Actually all of the dps specs are better
nimble girder
So its just numbers are low
lucid thicket
And unlike Fury doesn't have Thane propping it up
shadow ibex
Damage profile is useless
icy mulch
Arms now heals mobs.
finite wasp
At least it has some aoe capability
But singletarget you basically do negative dps and heal the boss
vast helm
finite wasp
But I think if we keep crying then maybe we can get attention
icy mulch
Good luck. Blizzard wants Warrior to suck.
latent moss
I need a 10 but i also need to finish my delve belt
hunter should be able to do it fast i think
olive nest
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898720803586048/1402024314978439373/Do...
Damn didn’t make the cut
It’s joever
spring rune
Dont worry, everyone is so down on Arms you can go get some sick parses while the play numbers are down
shadow ibex
(That's every tier)
cunning comet
@boreal quartz hush little labubu dont you cry everythings gonna be dubai
stuck yacht
m0 drop champ loot from s3?
dim basalt
m0 drop champ loot from s3?
ye
vast helm
dim basalt
fresh spire
rare kite
sharp wyvern
shadow ibex
I am excited to see how many parses arms has next week
Historically it's already one of least played
sharp wyvern
at least 1 
shadow ibex
Yea me
sharp wyvern
ok 2
shadow ibex
spiral coral
3
novel vine
brittle pelican
sharp wyvern
regal wharf
candid pecan
boreal quartz
<@653287531038900236> hush little labubu dont you cry everythings gonna be dubai
stir the macha latte up, little gooner, i told ya
Elon's here to groom you through the web
cunning comet
Look
cunning comet
stir the macha latte up, little gooner, i told ya
Elon's here to groom you throu...
I drew
Labubu bubbletea matcha dubai chocolate
Very proud of this drawing
inner wasp
what did i miss is arms dead dead
boreal quartz
roll it up and insert it into your urethrea
boreal quartz
what did i miss is arms dead dead
so dead
supple crypt
candid pecan
inner wasp
how bad can it REALLY be
cunning comet
roll it up and insert it into your urethrea
Not yet
karmic reef
jade ember
how bad can it REALLY be
Can probably do comparable overall to Fury but very very bad ST as Col. And it's just worse than Fury at ST in raid.
lucid thicket
It's a dead spec
inner wasp
what's fdk at tho
limpid lotus
serene canyon
Did we get hotfix buff yet
lucid thicket
Did we get hotfix buff yet
No
At this point we should change the chat name to Dead Arms Storage
olive nest
lucid thicket
lament elbow
covert rapids
olive nest
misty sandal
Is arms saved, yet?
lucid thicket
Is arms saved, yet?
Please refer to the multitude of Arms War gifs
misty sandal
I assumed it was saved because they stopped for 10 minutes 
sour forge
Will we want to replace it with the new champion geat
Sim question
wicked badger
:p
night mulch
dim basalt
wind flicker
soft gust
zenith dagger
regal wharf
Sim question
raidbots is down
sour forge
raidbots is down
are you getting champ gear as we speak?
slow saddle
drifting geode
regal wharf
are you getting champ gear as we speak?
no isnt the game down
sweet apex
Hey guys, returning player since Shadowlands. Is Arms going to be competitive for meta this season?
candid pecan
sour forge
no isnt the game down
Right so you can sim later
regal wharf
Hey guys, returning player since Shadowlands. Is Arms going to be competitive fo...
hes not trolling
jade ember
Make a macro I beg
regal wharf
his last message was in 2022
jade ember
Hey guys, returning player since Shadowlands. Is Arms going to be competitive fo...
Read the latest post in #updates-midnight
limpid lotus
misty sandal
hes not trolling
Oh!
nocturne hedge
Ok so we weren’t saved by the new build
lucid thicket
Is everyone just going Colo in m+?
If you even bother with Arms
You might as well grab the 2nd 2h and just play Fury
jade ember
Colo buffs Cleave bigly so it just ubergaps Slayer on AoE
weak rain
golden smelt
Colo buffs Cleave bigly so it just ubergaps Slayer on AoE
Arms single target is god awful compared to Fury, in its current state it won't be anywhere near Thane in terms of usefulness in keys
icy mulch
wintry arch
Hi everyone I’m back from a break and I heard arms is doing really well?
finite wasp
Hi everyone I’m back from a break and I heard arms is doing really well?
It’s good at healing bosses now since it does negative st
oblique lodge
arms still dead tomorrow huh
sharp wyvern
there is an entire week of possibilities
who knows how many aura buffs arms will get
oblique lodge
copium but still hoping
minor gust
sharp wyvern
shadow ibex
who knows how many aura buffs arms will get
If only they had a ptr cycle...
I'm ready for my .2 buffs
minor gust
I expect nothing for .5 just like in 11.1.5
latent moss
dim basalt
minor gust
minor gust
Breaking doom spam train is bad juju more arms nerfs for you
vast helm
olive nest
boreal quartz
sharp wyvern
minor gust
fresh spire
naive sage
icy mulch
candid pecan
shadow ibex
slow saddle
Enhance is trash too
Less trash
sharp wyvern
lets look at it this way
first tier ele shaman is gonna be in the rwf
nova marsh
Fuck ele
cloud gyro
rare kite
Idk man we're pretty trash
enhance can do good damage. however the playstyle with new tier(stormbringer) is ass, better watch your weakaura and play around tier at all times
boreal quartz
rare kite
U mean prot
nah the exe nerf was because of fury(slayer tier)
rare kite
tier was idd too good, the way they nerfed it affected arms alot more than fury as well
minor gust
Classic arms only getting nerfs because of the other specs and getting 0 compensation.
It's season 1 all over again got a wait a month for our compensation buffs
shadow ibex
prot war rwf
sharp wyvern
if fury doesnt get nerfed there is a good chance there is gonna be a fury
tacit crystal
tier was idd too good, the way they nerfed it affected arms alot more than fury ...
bring back old pfp
rare kite
if fury doesnt get nerfed there is a good chance there is gonna be a fury
i kinda doubt it. prot will fill the 1 warrior spot
rare kite
bring back old pfp
maybe someday. for now it's low res zoro
tacit crystal
whats a zolo
slow saddle
if fury doesnt get nerfed there is a good chance there is gonna be a fury
Id be suprised just take fdk, unless prot gets gibbed
rare kite
burst good, multidot good. warrior dps has neither
spiral coral
Tactyks said we'll surely get a buff
fresh spire
rare kite
Tactyks said we'll *surely* get a buff <:deadge:900279927138578432>
who dat
spiral coral
makes m+ guides and stuff
spiral coral
love the new zone, glad I didn't watch any ptr shit outside of encounters/dungeons
candid pecan
cant wait to see Liquid and Echo PULL UP with multiple dobby mm hunters, frost dks, prot warriors, and warlocks 
shadow ibex
cant wait to see Liquid and Echo PULL UP with multiple dobby mm hunters, frost d...
so ready for 0 dps warriors
then we can get rework right?
lucid thicket
Roll up with the board boys
lucid thicket
0 DKs in rwf and now frost got a rework
I'm playing Spooky Arms for a reason
olive nest
Zero dps warrior in rwf bet on it
balmy kindle
maybe theyll overcorrect in the other direction
instead of being nerfed into the ground, we'll be buffed to warrior nirvana
latent moss
ye and gameplay will still suck
balmy kindle
finite grotto
Arms needs rework. Toolkit is there just needs a little tweaking
spiral coral
Rework - toolkit is there.
Pick one.
spare agate
Skullsplitter on Colossus, season ruined
minor gust
dont play colossus then
spare agate
Have to for M+
dim basalt
minor gust
no more colossus
livid cloak
Does the tier interact with skullsplitter in some way?
finite grotto
It could be like MM rework, which just smoothed out existing toolkit, improving gameplay. You have all the elements, just need to be fine tuned and adjusted cd timings etc, some qol changes
minor gust
Does the tier interact with skullsplitter in some way?
read the colossus tier it increases bleed dmg by 80%
livid cloak
Can't look at wowhead at work 🙁
olive nest
I’d find a new job
livid cloak
But ty for letting me know!
finite grotto
But whatever the case, looking forward to playing Warrior
spare agate
Worst part is binding it
Main reason I hate it, it's just a dumb ability that feels like it could be tacked onto something else. Slam 2.0
olive nest
It does feel boring to press can’t deny that
river ridge
Can't look at wowhead at work 🙁
livid cloak
Ty!
river ridge
Np
olive nest
It would be cooler if it depleted your dots instantly for the damage they would have dealt and then refreshed them
Nice little visual of chunking a health bar
spiral coral
won't take much for arms to fckin own 
olive nest
That would re introduce the need to refresh both before casting sks though that was kinda bad I guess?
river ridge
SKS is just kinda bad =/
spare agate
It would be cooler if it depleted your dots instantly for the damage they would ...
I like this better. Big chunk feels more Arms-y than screwing around with your bleeds
lucid thicket
SKS is just kinda bad =/
Its bad because they nerfed it
river ridge
I mean the gameplay around it hasn't ever been exciting? In DF we had to reapply dots before and after.
In TWW it just makes you spend more GCDs on Rend. Its not doing anything really unique or exciting.
lucid thicket
I mean the gameplay around it hasn't ever been exciting? In DF we had to reapply...
Prior to nerfing it you killed people in pvp
Afterward it did fuckall
rare kite
Did arms get anything good this patch
lmao no
rare kite
it got weaker in comparison(other specs got stronger)
rare kite
🙂
minor gust
Love being NA my game is bugged and my character is currently bricked at the wrapped up quest cuz my wrap for some reason is alrdy lvl 2 with the power already selected but its not counting for the quest
void bay
Love being NA my game is bugged and my character is currently bricked at the wra...
ty for beta testing for eu
shadow ibex
I was gonna log in but I think I'll play other games td
spiral coral
Was seeing a bunch of people having issues in game, asking where people were/saying things weren’t phasing in lol
nocturne oxide
Honestly Arms warrior needs a major rework, suppose to be the "big crit" spec and we have dots from other specs critting harder
spiral coral
I’m good on a rework. Just some changes here and there.
stuck yacht
m0 cd 1 day or 1 weekly?
shadow ibex
weekly
stuck yacht
void bay
one of you guys with decent gear post a m0 dps meter (ive got no idea how fast trash dies)
plain solstice
lost flare
how bad is the no rend slayer build in m+?
minor gust
good
sage badge
Arms owns.
minor gust
Best is no rend slayer
night mulch
m0 cd is 1 day
That confirmed? Wowhead said otherwise
nocturne hedge
Did they revert that?
They made them dailies, not weeklies, like a patch or two ago
I dont remember if it was 11.0 or what
night mulch
I believe they changed them to weekly, not sure when. Can't check yet, eu
sour forge
They made it weekly s2 iirc
nocturne hedge
daaaamn, that's silly
sleek skiff
so, arms dead instead warrior?
nocturne hedge
Best is no rend slayer
can you link me to your talents? 😮 I'm not sure what you're subbing out for rend.
sour forge
Execute talents
minor gust
can you link me to your talents? 😮 I'm not sure what you're subbing out for ren...
Get ahead of the curve
oh DN instead of SOA
sour forge
This is one of a few builds that might see play in s3
minor gust
sour forge
I haven’t checked wowhead recently but I’m not sure if Archi has posted this build in the guide
grave mulch
no he hasnt
inner fiber
we can skip the campaign?
modern veldt
you need to do it for the cloak
inner fiber
yea i mean for the alts
ionic latch
Get ahead of the curve
no rend good for only M+ or you thinkin' it could work wit raid?
minor gust
M+ only
modern veldt
interesting
might have to try that build lol
im new to warrior is the dropping of rend because bleeds are just turbo bad?
minor gust
for slayer yes
minor gust
most of your aoe is cleave and reap
grave mulch
the quest reward set looks pretty sick
modern veldt
the delve and aspirant re-colours are quite nice too
real cloud
is the one button assist broken for arms right now?
was working before patch and now it doesn't cast any spells
spare agate
the quest reward set looks pretty sick
The 2h void ghost energy thing swords look really good too
dry frost
anyone else freezing every time they press Demolish
grave mulch
its prob cause its the worse spec
glacial rapids
anyone else freezing every time they press Demolish
Yeah, demolish is acting choppy for me too.
tacit crystal
fossil thistle
We're replacing tier as soon as we get 2pc right?
Sorry I could probably look it up but 8)
stray willow
is there a campaign skip to get the cloak on different characters
void bay
Yes
stray willow
thank god
nocturne hedge
Demolish is doing huge damage as colo
leaden kelp
Blizzard will notice the fun and nerf it dw
grave mulch
Dont manifest that. we are already rock bottom
forest hearth
So I take it arms is not looking so hot?
grave mulch
It will get buffed dw
smoky kayak
was using wowhead for rotation, but that's cooked cuz it uses rend
that build was on WH yesterday lol
rare kite
It will get buffed dw
3% aura
forest hearth
was rend giga nerfed or something?
minor gust
no
lament fern
Anyone know when to break tier set? I cant find any info.
forest hearth
no
then like what happened? I stop playing for like a month and everything went off a cliff
minor gust
things get buffed some things dont slayer bleed dmg isnt much its colossus that has more bleed focus with tier. Things change
minor gust
welcome to patch day on NA
nova marsh
Why would you play na patch day
minor gust
because im na
forest hearth
Got a free night and the guild is doing M0 around the world
nova marsh
because im na
Play ur backlog for a day
grave mulch
no
minor gust
I got cloaks to get and M0s and delves to do so I can log off for the week
wary bay
spiral coral
Why would you play na patch day
I played until now without any hiccups
grave mulch
latent moss
latent moss
I got cloaks to get and M0s and delves to do so I can log off for the week
boring ahh
legit nothing to do
ig do everything on multiple characters
nocturne hedge
is everyone having issues atm?
latent moss
no im eu
minor gust
Na servers are currently dying
grave mulch
Who loves not being do any form of mounting up in phase diving???
nocturne hedge
ah got it
forest hearth
Im good now on Bleeding Hollow, many weird moments but it's cool now
grave mulch
its the maw all over again
modern veldt
Who loves not being do any form of mounting up in phase diving???
Ironic that you can get mounts from phase diving but not able to use them while phase dived
How good
balmy kindle
vast helm
minor gust
grave mulch
arctic iris
We need to get a meta gif of someone scrolling through a whole page of the scrolling gif
balmy kindle
heavy patio
wary bay
minor gust
sour forge
vast helm
smoky kayak
unarms warrior
latent moss
sage badge
forest hearth
demolish is a fun spell that definitely works as intended 🙃
boreal quartz
minor gust
Dont worry Spooky arms is pumpin right now
balmy kindle
Fdk 6.3m, arms 5.28?and its released
Its week 1
balmy kindle
But Sheesh 1m diff, nice start to S3
balmy kindle
surely compensation buffs
floral ledge
Guys I swear I dreamed about 30% aura buff, I juste wake up and now im sad
grand idol
Thirty?!
brittle pelican
Guys I swear I dreamed about 30% aura buff, I juste wake up and now im sad
are you sure? Maybe you dreamt about 30 more jugg stacks??
primal hamlet
How fun would it be if they baked heavy handed into improved sweeping strikes
Would also be nice if they extended the jugg buff by 5s as well
modern veldt
the no rend build is kinda fun lol
fresh spire
dim basalt
grave mulch
the no rend build is kinda fun lol
is that a M+ build? i havent looked yet
empty sluice
Jugg ugh
odd palm
no rend -> no thunder clap. you can swap it to Pain and Gain
modern veldt
not my build i just saved the image
floral ledge
terrible talents
mortal niche
skullsplitter tier eh? no warrior then I guess
untold pewter
huh
candid pecan
mortal niche
whats even that monumentally bad..or is it all of it
minor gust
no rend -> no thunder clap. you can swap it to Pain and Gain
I just put it together quickly to show ppl also made 1 mistake in the screenshot you play DN not SOA
fresh spire
dim basalt
bleak fog
So what do you guys think, I wanna play the dps that has a railroad right into pugs and have... War, Monk, Hunter, DK and Shaman to go for.. Which one?
candid pecan
So what do you guys think, I wanna play the dps that has a railroad right into p...
play DK
or you'll actually be mad like the rest of us
bleak fog
I have mained warrior since 2005
Ran with it first weeks of s2 but jumped to mm Hunter
And had a blast 🙂
balmy kindle
So what do you guys think, I wanna play the dps that has a railroad right into p...
Shaman, skyfury and lust = always have spot
floral ledge
quaint otter
Balls tier
latent moss
cooked
spare steppe
Bro i rather go furry than fury
crimson steppe
maybe buff our useless spear and roar just maybe
calm isle
Oh no, are we bad this tier? Fucckkk
candid pecan
dim basalt
vast helm
calm isle
Damn, I've been without internet at a cottage for three weeks, come back to find this news for patch day. Is Fury much better, or is it aids all around?
icy mulch
silk breach
C-tier just means “cool tier” right fellas….right?
icy mulch
You're actually mad, is our tier.
gusty nymph
gaunt owl
oblique lodge
daring heron
ngl this gif is peak
vast glacier
Bro i rather go furry than fury
😂😂👌
vast glacier
maybe buff our useless spear and roar just maybe
Increase juggernaut time to 30sec and it would be much better.
untold pewter
Make juggernaut only drop out of combat 
vast glacier
Make juggernaut only drop out of combat <:purpleface:1115871627750682664>
That would be Kind of insane, but yea, would be a dream.
grave mulch
dim basalt
cunning comet
Hi i have a question whats better unhinged or hurricane? I feel like with the new tierset unhinged might be better? Looking forward to your answers thank you in advance
wanton sierra
so its confirmed? we ded? xD
wanton sierra
we arms, at arms especific channel
wanton sierra
we dont have huurricane bro, unhinged is the way
icy mulch
Unhinged has been doing the heavy lifting for Ravager and Bladestorm most of the expansion.
wanton sierra
mop bladestorm we press it and we top metters xD
fresh spire
icy mulch
gusty nymph
cunning comet
Typing 💬
wanton sierra
hey here it is an unpopular opinion, but i liked when we used to build around the weapon type, i know the axe one was better but this concept was super fun... being an arms with blunt especialization, or polearm... back then was unbalanced and simple, but it would be fun to see something like that weapon especialization on the talents tree
cunning comet
I liked when fury spammed whirlwind after bladestorm in aoe when they took that arms conduit
@latent moss hi what should i play this patch i will be home at 8:30pm tell me please.
shadow ibex
nice buffs
latent moss
<@692035495718551564> hi what should i play this patch i will be home at 8:30pm ...
survival hunter
civic path
hasty vault
im looking forward to the next gif just being everyone linking that gif
cunning comet
survival hunter
Everything but hunter🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬
fresh spire
icy mulch
spiral coral
Everything but hunter🤬 🤬 🤬 🤬
SV hunters are goated
The actual player base, v cool ppl and stuck out some crazy down bad seasons
icy mulch
Or...
wanton sierra
https://tenor.com/view/forrest-gump-wave-hello-hi-sup-gif-16159238468026206620
hey bro!
icy mulch
I hated Jenny so much.
spiral coral
Can’t really hate on Jenny if you think about the very beginning when she’s running away from home and praying in the fields from an abusive father.
icy mulch
That's no reason to abuse and take advantage of Forest.
fresh spire
icy mulch
https://tenor.com/view/anya-forger-looking-side-to-side-happy-smile-excited-gif-16914470921915028381
spiral coral
Spy family has become one of my favorites
icy mulch
I wasn't keen on it from the trailer, but a buddy made me sit down and watch a couple episodes. I was hooked from then on.
wanton sierra
forest is one of the top movies, very good
spiral coral
That's no reason to abuse and take advantage of Forest.
Idk as I’ve gotten older I give real/fictional people less judgement if they weren’t ever taught how to deal with emotions. Which turns out, is most people lol.
grave mulch
spiral coral
https://i.imgflip.com/a1vjj2.gif
icy mulch
Idk as I’ve gotten older I give real/fictional people less judgement if they wer...
That's fair.
grave mulch
https://tenor.com/view/stop-pewdiepie-pewdiepie-stop-gif-15345062
NOPE!
icy mulch
Stop? Do you have news?
spiral coral
no I just enjoyed arms not being caskets for a bit
grave mulch
Unless Arms is being buffed it doesnt stop
elder patrol
hello ! How many half sparks do we have this week? Cauz i've done all my weeklies and i only have 1
shadow ibex
fresh spire
olive nest
grave mulch
candid pecan
icy mulch
shadow ibex
hasty vault
spiral coral
IT'S A TAKEDOWN
spiral coral
https://tenor.com/view/kpop-demon-hunters-gif-10629880106002973088
I was very quickly corrected that this was from Golden, not Takedown
sand kettle
We still playing the same build for keys right? Or is fury the way to go now?
lucid thicket
We still playing the same build for keys right? Or is fury the way to go now?
Fury
What part of Arms dead didn't you get?
minor gust
If you wanna be "optimal" it's a fury season if you wanna still play arms because you like arms it's a same build till tier then you can go no rend slayer
No rend slayer is love no rend slayer is life
daring heron
https://tenor.com/view/saja-boys-gif-3885905284733677540
i can be your SANC-TU-ARY
sand kettle
I mean I still out dps any fury I go against on any content so sometimes is hard for me
wanton sierra
after some big months!! im back! what should i do here? questing?
daring heron
spamming no-cd battle shouts probably is the best way to pass time until season starts
minor gust
Pref in your raid with other warriors and start lagging the place and annoying others
wanton sierra
some horde are trying to medde steel here
sand kettle
I feel like Critcake is baiting people into playing fury 🙃 lol
wanton sierra
he just likes fury more
slow saddle
Fuwu once new 4p
sand kettle
I’m not a fan of mountain fury
sand kettle
My warrior looks better than yours lol
tacit lodge
my brother, that's a full set
sand kettle
Full sets is the way to go!
wanton sierra
ok its looks nice, only the shoulders that i dont like, it appears that if you raise your arm up, you would strike your head with that big metal and glowing red gargula
sand kettle
😂
tacit lodge
No rend slayer is love no rend slayer is life
u mean raid or is the no-rend slayer also somehow good in m+
sand kettle
And still o sword!! Blizzard hates me
potent creek
And still o sword!! Blizzard hates me
those are rookie numbers
sand kettle
How many kills are you at? lol
potent creek
one of my guildmate sitting at 500
sand kettle
😳😳
minor gust
u mean raid or is the no-rend slayer also somehow good in m+
It's an M plus build, not a raid build
wanton sierra
he asked you, not ppl you know xD
sand kettle
Wait 9.5 years worth of kills? I just google the math lol
potent creek
you can farm it on multiple toons
tacit lodge
It's an M plus build, not a raid build
but I prayed that colossus would be better than slayer in all forms of content this patch, who do i need to email
sand kettle
Ah okay
I’m prob at around that then
minor gust
but I prayed that colossus would be better than slayer in all forms of content t...
No one because no one will listen
sand kettle
I would rather play slayer on keys and raid for arms but I also enjoy doing the most dps I can
So I end up playing whatever is meta
tacit lodge
sand kettle
Not having bladestorm for keys kinda feels bad
olive nest
My guild mate did 583 before getting the mount
wanton sierra
did demolish buffed? i feel im demolishing the shit out of thos lil hordies and criters xD
fresh spire
Don't think it did? Tier buffed it
wanton sierra
that warlock must be an alt idk
icy mulch
i can be your SANC-TU-ARY
Can I take the mic a little higher!
minor gust
I would rather play slayer on keys and raid for arms but I also enjoy doing the ...
Well good news for you until arms gets other buffs its a Slayer M+ season
wanton sierra
STAY WHILE AND LISTEN!!! xD
sharp wyvern
wtf is this slayer talent doing in the prot tree ?
lucid thicket
wtf is this slayer talent doing in the prot tree ?
He doesn't know
wanton sierra
execute with SS integrated!! ❤️
plain latch
guys does the kyvesa hotfix mean we've been nerfed already?
lucid thicket
guys does the kyvesa hotfix mean we've been nerfed already?
Yes
lucid thicket
prot is gonna out dps arms on the DH boss
Everyone shits on arms
lucid thicket
My crippled grandma > arms
pale mantle
void bay
stuck yacht
arms dead in s3?
heavy patio
stuck yacht
oblique lodge
And still o sword!! Blizzard hates me
got it on 10th try
sand kettle
Ain’t no way!!
fresh spire
civic path
stuck yacht
olive nest
minor gust
devout pewter
I think something is wrong with my specc D:
sand kettle
Lmao don’t do it!! It’s a trap
devout pewter
Is that the new Bloodthirst Arms no one talked about?
vast helm
sand kettle
I feel a small buff for arms b4 the season starts
candid pecan
I feel a big buff cause wtf is this
sand kettle
I can’t have high expectations for blizzard
So a small buff will do lol
sturdy hearth
nah blizzard is only fast when they have to nerf warrior
heavy patio
Alright, the wheel has decided. Future arms buff. 15% more to BS/Ravager, 4% aura buff, and 25% more slam damage
glacial rapids
w/o the new tier set are you guys just rolling with Col for the m0 dungeons this week?
heavy patio
w/o the new tier set are you guys just rolling with Col for the m0 dungeons this...
Same thing I did last season slayer arms m+ build
glacial rapids
Same thing I did last season slayer arms m+ build
ty
minor gust
w/o the new tier set are you guys just rolling with Col for the m0 dungeons this...
Fury
golden smelt
Alright, the wheel has decided. Future arms buff. 15% more to BS/Ravager, 4% au...
50% more roar and ravager damage, 20% BS, 20% more cleave MS damage, 20% buff to bleed talents. 50% buff to OF for fury fans. All soft caps moved to 8 across both specs. That might make us slightly competitive 🥲
icy mulch
Nothing will live long enough in m0 for Arms.
golden smelt
Hahaha
icy mulch
400% buff to side arm.
golden smelt
heavy patio
ya know thats just ridiculous enough to go on the wheel
golden smelt
💯
icy mulch
I'm dreading the day they rework warrior into a passive aoe class. Similar to DH and Paladin. Hit main buttons, stand near mobs, profit.
golden smelt
Don't worry too much, we're a good 5 years away from a warrior rework
icy mulch
You're right, my mistake. Paladins need their 201st rework first.
devout pewter
don't forget shadowpriests and hunters too
glacial rapids
don't forget shadowpriests and hunters too
I don't know where you're looking at but Spriests and Hunters aren't coddled any where near as much as Paladins.
devout pewter
I'm not looking anywhere, just randomly joking lol
minor gust
I'm dreading the day they rework warrior into a passive aoe class. Similar to DH...
Basically already what arms is/ should become right now besides cleave your just pressing ST abilities. It's why we need passive SS back for MS and Exe
balmy kindle
anyone knows what gem to get for cloak ?
civic path
guess it's crit
heavy patio
Precise
tacit lodge
Everytime slam is mentioned in patch notes and it’s not “removed” an arms player cancels sub
What’s the orb say
torpid torrent
replace slam with heroic strike and get it off gcd as a rage dump
halcyon pumice
ppl when do i trade items vs set item ? i got an 681 shoulder and i wear 658, now i got 681 head too there i wear 662, so i cant go for 4 set
minor gust
anyone knows what gem to get for cloak ?
You can sim it. It's just a stat question
devout pewter
ppl when do i trade items vs set item ? i got an 681 shoulder and i wear 658, n...
Usually set to set. And then at earliest 2pc to 2pc
tacit lodge
Next week tailors can make the super thread right
devout pewter
Last season I had like 3 items that were at hero level 2 weeks in that I could have replaced the set with, but it was still slightly worse.
eager bridge
Replace Slam with Sunder Armor?
devout pewter
oh god no
torpid torrent
we need a rage dump tho
olive nest
What if slam and sks where combined and your filler was basically maintaining a buff that makes your bleeds do double damage
👨🍳
tacit lodge
Bleeds 🤮
eager bridge
No more bleeds plz .
tacit lodge
Worst part of arms
devout pewter
What if slam and sks where combined and your filler was basically maintaining a ...
would put too much emphasis on the filler and destroy the feeling of it even more.
we just need big juicy hits again
eager bridge
Before execute phase we basically don't have a rage dumper that somehow interacts with the rest of the kit expect Tactician and Anger management
devout pewter
could take a note from PvP talents, that one talent that empowers MS for more damage and extra -healing%
gray zephyr
Bring back ip rage dumping for tom stack ezpz
civic path
what if you had to stack 5 time bleed and then you do true damage with MS
devout pewter
costs 50% rage, increases MS damage by 500%, 1min or so cooldown reducable by spending
devout pewter
Bring back ip rage dumping for tom stack ezpz
god no
eager bridge
Our PvP talents except battlefield commander are bad , we are hard locked on Sharpen Blade
quiet hare
Bring back FR from s1 legion
devout pewter
I'm a bit unsure, but I kinda want arms to be a "use attacks to power up your other attacks for a massive hit like every 30s" and not a "let me buff myself for 20s so I can make a massive hit"
reward me with a huge hit for hitting the right shit at the right time like ddr or whatever
eager bridge
We really don't have something for consistent single target dmg . Bleeds are consistent dmg but they are unfun . I like the approach of colossus, ramping dmg and then huge pay off
wanton sierra
hey witch fiber do we pick?
lucid thicket
hey witch fiber do we pick?
Vers for Fury
wanton sierra
what if im arms? xD
lucid thicket
You get left at home
And they pick up literally anyone else
SMF does more damage than Arms lmao
wanton sierra
fuck my cape was emmbelish
lucid thicket
And that's actively shitposting and nerfing your damage
stuck yacht
weak wave
Why do we take Skullsplitter again for M+? 😩
rare kite
Why do we take Skullsplitter again for M+? 😩
colossus tierset
minor gust
hey witch fiber do we pick?
Sim it but if your lazy just pick between Crit haste or mastery and call it a day
wanton sierra
got crit
spring rune
Also if you didn't see its like 100g to go buy the other flavors
lucid thicket
Also if you didn't see its like 100g to go buy the other flavors
You need the Tailor version
That's more stats
spring rune
To swap or for the better one in general?
slow saddle
https://tenor.com/view/out-disappear-bye-vanished-gif-4932063
Sks i good
Just need omega buff
wanton sierra
make it is like it was before, machine gun of tics blasting
slow saddle
Y
Felt good
Just do what uh got
An auto refresh of diseases
Make it so if u sks - ms dw never gone
minor gust
https://tenor.com/view/out-disappear-bye-vanished-gif-4932063
You mean a no rend slayer season yeah
smoky kayak
Basically already what arms is/ should become right now besides cleave your just...
ok but to be fair
"besides the AoE button you're pressing every 3 GCDs, the other two are just single target buttons!"
smoky kayak
Everytime slam is mentioned in patch notes and it’s not “removed” an arms player...
you'd better cancel now, cause slam is never getting removed from arms lol
wanton sierra
slam used to be big back then
minor gust
ok but to be fair
> "besides the AoE button you're pressing every 3 GCDs, the ot...
I just want some added passive cleave for my ST buttons while I'm doing AOE
smoky kayak
slam used to be big back then
it's gone back and forth, but you can't simultaneously complain that MS and Execute need to be big dam, then also complain that Slam isn't
slow saddle
Facts
smoky kayak
also all those times when Slam was a big button... people complained that MS or Execute wasn't
see: MoP
slow saddle
Relative power is a thing🤣
If u want biig empowered ms
U must also accept shitty no empowered ms
💩
smoky kayak
I just want some added passive cleave for my ST buttons while I'm doing AOE
passive ravager when?
minor gust
Slam is just some whatever filler which is fine where it's at. At most could use 1 more interaction to help with bad luck tactician proce
minor gust
passive ravager when?
Bladestorm but works like breath gets extended by spending rage and you can use abilities during it
smoky kayak
flat willow
didn't they give that to ret paladin
tacit lodge
you'd better cancel now, cause slam is never getting removed from arms lol
a man can dream
wanton sierra
it's gone back and forth, but you can't simultaneously complain that MS and Exec...
plz buff arms warrior mop mortal strike, its too low dam
tacit lodge
its the faith of what could be which drives me
charred brook
Slam is fine as it is, we just need to not be using it as much in the rotation as we were in season 2
Which should be different this season
Slamming 3-4 times in a row is just boring and criminal
wanton sierra
Which should be different this season
agree
slow saddle
Well free up a talent poibt for battlelord
wanton sierra
Well free up a talent poibt for battlelord
why, big gokke?
slow saddle
Less slam?
minor gust
https://tenor.com/view/tim-gunn-eww-gross-yuck-meme-disgusting-sticks-tongue-out...
That passive ravager better actually do dmg then instead of fanning my balls!
heavy patio
Bladestorm but works like breath gets extended by spending rage and you can use ...
Can we put this man in jail?
slow saddle
Can we put this man in jail?
If itnwas ravagee + unhinged
Biggest exevute ever
Juggernaut 5 stacks when
heavy patio
I'm just a simple man and want execute to proc reap the storm
sharp wyvern
guys i did it
wanton sierra
guys i did it <:ratge:890357732543168594>
the best in the world!
heavy patio
Also for fatality to be noticeable
wanton sierra
remove fatality or fix it
heavy patio
the concept is appealing, practicality is ass
que the old video of arms warrior skyrocketing in dps as execute happens 🙂
heavy patio
no more buttons
wanton sierra
the number of buttons is not the problem, fatality need some control by yourself
slow saddle
Exactly
wanton sierra
there is many fights that we burst on burst phase and then fatality pops without nothing covering it, i mean our busts
slow saddle
Ecactly give us a nuke button
wanton sierra
i wonder how it gonna be on pvp... i think it will be broken
slow saddle
Or make itn100% non interactive
minor gust
Fatality is cool design wise just could be way way way better.
Needs a way to actually control when you pop it if it's gonna work with CDs. Also needs a very distinct sound effect and animation when popped so you actually feel it and see it
heavy patio
wanton sierra
i agree on distinct sound oeffect and animation! jesus bro that talent is positioned on last talent node of our arms tree
heavy patio
That needs to pop up
minor gust
If a massive red number instead of yellow popped on you screen with a badass sound effect of a guillotine falling fatality would be our coolest talent
olive nest
It should trigger on its own not be able to be modified
wanton sierra
maybe fatality from mortal combat and tons of blood splashing
heavy patio
I want arms to just be 10x bloodier
wanton sierra
so you need to play arterial bleeeds
dry frost
que the old video of arms warrior skyrocketing in dps as execute happens 🙂
I want it back 
heavy patio
and for them to delete skull splitter 🙂
dry frost
Omg yeah, I main Assa and arms and both specs bleeds feel worse and more useless every patch
heavy patio
Fatality on the class tree could be cool
dry frost
At least in raid in assassination rogues case, bleed build in M+ goes hard
I want my bleeds back blizzard
spiral coral
Omg yeah, I main Assa and arms and both specs bleeds feel worse and more useless...
I’m excited to play assa this season tbh
wanton sierra
Fatality on the class tree could be cool
so you want fury to have it too? they stolen our bladestorm! ): what did we got from them? piercin howl?! please
shadow ibex
Needs a way to actually control when you pop it if it's gonna work with CDs. Als...
tbh i would rather it just be a bleed proc based on % dmg an MS did and let it keep building up if u get more and more proc
idk if that was what trauma was
dry frost
I’m excited to play assa this season tbh
It’s fun in M+ but not that enjoyable in raid. KB is so weak now and envenom ends up doing 30% of your damage. The bleed build pops off in keys as long as you have more than 5 brain cells and can keep up your dots
spiral coral
I like arms having bleed but they can’t decide what to do with it on to make it bursty or a long dot
heavy patio
I feel like arms bleed growing stronger over time would make most sense
spiral coral
And then it resembling unholy too much with bleed effects
shadow ibex
i guess only problem is bleed based on % done by ability is gonna feel bad if ur 3mil ms crit doesnt get bleed proc
that would really feel bad
meanwhile 600k hit does
spiral coral
It’s fun in M+ but not that enjoyable in raid. KB is so weak now and envenom end...
I will be @ you rogue questions in the future
olive nest
I’d love my damage to be less rng based and more skill based
wanton sierra
I’d love my damage to be less rng based and more skill based
yeah!
olive nest
Like I have the skill to track and maintain juggernaut but I don’t always have the rng to proc a charge of sudden death
Smh!
dry frost
I will be @ you rogue questions in the future <:okayge:917646812519739433>
Go for it, I haven’t been playing as much lately but I was almost top 100 Sin rogue M ATDHso I at least knew how to play it then
minor gust
tbh i would rather it just be a bleed proc based on % dmg an MS did and let it k...
Fatality just fits the arms fantasy very well. If you want Trauma back rend is what needs to go for it. To many fuckin different bleeds
slow saddle
Like I have the skill to track and maintain juggernaut but I don’t always have t...
Which is why jugger needs to die
minor gust
Don't need 2 different bleeds that are applied by 2 diff buttons fuck rend and DW one needs to go
Or cleave/Ms applies both always
olive nest
Our abilities should apply both or we should only have one, completely agree
smoky kayak
Don't need 2 different bleeds that are applied by 2 diff buttons fuck rend and D...
don't need two different damage abilities that are applied by two diff buttons fuck MS and OP, one needs to go
rename Arms spec "Mortal Striker" - one button, mortal strike, that's it
dry frost
I just wish that we did more bleed damage 🤷
olive nest
Practically what it is now
wanton sierra
how about this:
fatality is now an action button, but you can only press it when the target has 30% or less hp.
fatality works now with deepwounds and the longer it tics, the bigger is the damage (only the dot of the same target)
so ideally we would wait to allign big bursts on execute phase
olive nest
A gorillion modifiers to enable the mortal striker button
smoky kayak
I just wish that we did more bleed damage 🤷
Colossus!
minor gust
don't need two different damage abilities that are applied by two diff buttons f...
That's not the same and you know it
smoky kayak
I mean it's kiiiinda the same
minor gust
Sure you can play with words to be a similar argument but you know what I'm trying to get at.
smoky kayak
how about this:
fatality is now an action button, but you can only press it whe...
an entire button that you press once per combat seems incredibly pointless
smoky kayak
Sure you can play with words to be a similar argument but you know what I'm tryi...
I do, they tried it in MoP and people complained lol
charred brook
an entire button that you press once per combat seems incredibly pointless
What if it became like a 45s cd reduced by AM that you use only during execute range
smoky kayak
MoP merged Rend & DW down, WoD restored it
minor gust
I see ppl bitching about DF talent system saying mop was better now
It's just a never ending cycle
rare kite
The never ending cycle that is wow players
people will complain no matter what. some people will not like it
smoky kayak
yup
99.9% of people complaining don't know what they want, they just know they don't like something
charred brook
The reason people are saying that is because they are realizing that with this many talents and sub specs it’s a lot for devs to keep balanced
livid cloak
I just wish cleave applied rend at low health like ms
wanton sierra
mop talents is not good, there is no choice really
smoky kayak
but the WoW playerbase is also so large that you will invariably always have people who don't like something
rare kite
i bet there are people that love the current version of arms. they love juggernaut, people are different
olive nest
Ms applies dw, slam applies rend
Cleave applies dw (uncapped)
Tc applies rend (uncapped)
Man that’d be good
smoky kayak
so the trick is to figure out if what the "disliked thing" is actually disliked and/or problematic, or if its just the current target of ire
flat willow
Ms applies dw, slam applies rend
Cleave applies dw (uncapped)
Tc applies rend (u...
if slam applies rend
why not just let rend apply rend
olive nest
Sks makes all targets around you suffer double bleed damage for the duration of the buff uncapped
minor gust
MoP merged Rend & DW down, WoD restored it
Wait by merge do you mean just got rid of cuz I played a lil of mop classic so far and I thought rend was just straight gone
smoky kayak
Wait by merge do you mean just got rid of cuz I played a lil of mop classic so f...
yes, its functionality was merged down into DW
and things that formerly worked with Rend were changed to work with DW
minor gust
Maybe they can try it again but reintroduce trauma
wanton sierra
dw damage on mop is good
olive nest
I don’t mind bleeds being a large portion of the damage because you’re less punished by downtime
And mechanics force downtime which is annoying
To a Zug Zug style player
smoky kayak
my personal favored idea is changing Bloodletting to allow MS crits to extend the duration of Rend by X-seconds all the time
Rather than the current functionality of MS crits applying a full Rend only sub-35%
The difference is that it would handicap your Rend to make it mostly passively maintained, without fully turning into a button you only press once per encounter
minor gust
Bleeds are fine existing guess I'm just tired of reapplying a rend as a chore
It's why I really wanted the DF tier set back as a talent. That and making SD have more value in aoe
minor gust
my personal favored idea is changing Bloodletting to allow MS crits to extend th...
That would work too
olive nest
Bleeds passively applied is good
smoky kayak
It's why I really wanted the DF tier set back as a talent. That and making SD ha...
I think it could be a fun idea for Slayer, but I don't really want Colossus to also end up emphasizing Sudden Death, since that blurs the lines between the two hero specs
livid cloak
Make each demo hit also tclap
olive nest
Big true
livid cloak
Good idea
wanton sierra
agree
smoky kayak
just change this second para to Colossus Smash is also applied to enemies affected by Demolish, for up to 10 sec based on the number of stacks of Colossal Might consumed by Demolish.
that would fix all of the "qq misalignment" issues and help further change up the feel of Colossus a little bit, by giving it much higher uptime on CS compared to Slayer
minor gust
I think it could be a fun idea for Slayer, but I don't really want Colossus to a...
Yeah I thought I was smart when I was predicting that tier set would appear in Slayer tree when we first heard it was gonna be execute focused.
Gg that it ended up being SD focused not exe and the tier set still didn't make it into slayer
And I guarantee it's because thane exists
And they don't want TC anywhere involved in slayer tree
vast helm
Slammer
smoky kayak
And they don't want TC anywhere involved in slayer tree
I mean that's easy, just use the idea but don't tie it to TC
minor gust
Can do that but the main benefit was the auto apply rend
smoky kayak
Your Sudden Death becomes a massive sweep, also dealing X% of its damage to nearby targets and afflicting them with Rend
smoky kayak
could give it the red horizontal cleave animation or something
heavy patio
condemn animation was pretty slick
dry frost
Archi for warrior dev
icy mulch
HunterXHunter end.
vast helm
icy mulch
dry frost
rapid bronze
while we're at it can we make this a pve talent
lucid thicket
while we're at it can we make this a pve talent
Let me ask John Blizzard. Just got a response, ""
rapid bronze
check with piratesoftware he'll know
lucid thicket
devout pewter
check with piratesoftware he'll know
Did they work at blizzard? I never knew! He never talked about it