ur st is just kinda bad
#arms
jade ember
Ya I only really have an impression for raid idk much about their health in M+
latent moss
but playing sub in m+ is so much effort
latent moss
Ya I only really have an impression for raid idk much about their health in M+
ye in raid assa is not good
jade ember
Anything that can't do any dam out of CDs feels kinda bad and I think that's Sub rn
timid mirage
Isn’t there damage amp bosses in this next raid
latent moss
ye
sour forge
Yes
jade ember
Nexus King I know for sure at least
shadow ibex
moth boss does
hazy flower
pi on sub?
jade ember
lol yea that sucks
hazy flower
is it any decent now
jade ember
screw that
latent moss
no clue
hazy flower
to pi any rogue spec outside of assa
latent moss
ye but in df u pi'd assa
then they realzied u can just play sub
and pi someone else
iirc
timid mirage
How low are those valleys
latent moss
less than 1 mil
latent moss
around 1 mil
jade ember
Average of 10mil DPS and 0 DPS is 5mil DPS ah class design
latent moss
sub is prob the most fun ive had in cds
but no cd
is
@hazy flower sub with invigorating shadowdust on smolderon
when u vanish u gain cdr
and u send 2 sets of cds
timid mirage
MM CD feels really good
jade ember
I've played a bunch of Assa this xpac but nothing else, and haven't really touched Sub since the end of SL
hazy flower
smolderon was a very good sub boss
jade ember
Legion Sub was really really fun
latent moss
but iirc sub was bugged with aug
latent moss
that tierset was like
hazy flower
idk
latent moss
or something
latent moss
I've played a bunch of Assa this xpac but nothing else, and haven't really touch...
i love assa
hazy flower
kinda wondering what dps meta will be
latent moss
just wish u didnt have to restealth perma
latent moss
like ur hero talent legit disappears
jade ember
Yea despite Deathmark's flaws I really like it too
latent moss
if ur darkest night falls off
hazy flower
assa looking pretty strong
latent moss
deathstalker got buffed
latent moss
maybe bleed is the play
double vaniish
shiv giga fucks with set
double shiv double vanish bleed
idk
rare kite
kinda wondering what dps meta will be
Think only arcane is safe to say atm
hazy flower
nothing is safe
fdk still looks strong
and u want something immortal
convenience matters
a lot
latent moss
ye but u would want something to giga fuck funnel
and thats what
arcane assa
sub
jade ember
3 Fury Warriors, Prot Warrior, Tree, a fifth Warrior in Discord for emotional support
latent moss
fire ig
timid mirage
3 Fury Warriors, Prot Warrior, Tree, a fifth Warrior in Discord for emotional su...
I just saw a bluepost that this is actually the only group comp that will be able to get keystones
latent moss
5 fury
latent moss
ye so u would pick one no
hazy flower
like if its assa arcane
latent moss
arcane or assa/sub
hazy flower
then u prob go assa for aoe fuck
latent moss
ye could be the play
latent moss
then u prob go assa for aoe fuck
maybe with the bleed build
hazy flower
idk we'll see
latent moss
it does very good aoe
latent moss
and still fucks funnel so ig pick diff mob idk
hazy flower
hi
hazy flower
frost is
latent moss
to play
latent moss
press icy veins and spam ice lance
tacit crystal
myrtu can you watch me do key
sour forge
like if its assa arcane
Just pull 2 lieutenant mobs
latent moss
honestly i dont think sub will be the play cause that spec is 4000 iq
unless its busted which it isnt
hazy flower
myrtu can you watch me do key
stream on twitch
latent moss
no point
tacit crystal
i swear that spec is just do opener
hazy flower
8m overall or i leave
tacit crystal
stream on twitch
i only do yt
hazy flower
that works too
latent moss
i swear that spec is just do opener
fuck up one thing dont align ur cds and 0 dmg
hazy flower
i did some good damuge today on first boss
tacit crystal
in #promotion
latent moss
i swear that spec is just do opener
gotta align for coup 
latent moss
noober
hazy flower
no pi
good
pi goes to boomie
as it should
played a key today got 0 pi's in total
lmao
felt weirdf
jade ember
guys how cracked am I to think we might have cats in RWF
like how good is tree in raid rn
tacit crystal
yeah it is
void bay
What is
jade ember
yes
void bay
Make that THD guy play feral
heavy patio
No, you do not want to see survival in raid because a buncha your mm and bm will try to swap
shadow ibex
and then a buff before that idk if it was aura or abilities
heavy patio
and it'll be a bad day
jade ember
If you want Mark from a DPS I feel like you go Feral most of the time rn but idk if that's gonna be a thing
Idk would be cool tho
hazy flower
why u playing kezan in workshop
jade ember
Ya that's why I asked if Resto was good in raid
shadow ibex
i think so
void bay
I'm hoping it's a 3 horse race this time
sour forge
No, you do not want to see survival in raid because a buncha your mm and bm will...
Surv is doing pretty good on ptr
tall gazelle
What's the cause of making my Cleave & Mortal Strike have spell activation glow on my actionbars? I cant see any buffs on my buff bar when it goes off so not sure whats prompting it, and sometimes its for <2s
fresh spire
Eb proc
tall gazelle
ty!
smoky kayak
same for all, but it won't matter in 3 days
paper summit
the stats one?
smoky kayak
the recommended one
paper summit
is that corruption event going away?
tacit crystal
what is the context of this
spring ruin
Something prob wrong with me but why am I having more fun on MOP than retail atm lol. I already did this however many years ago. Classes just feel better, not tracking 80 things etc.
sudden fox
no warrior on the list
Same as every other class almost lol
rare kite
Something prob wrong with me but why am I having more fun on MOP than retail atm...
Coz retail arms design is dogshit
smoky kayak
just a different flavor of problems is all
fair tinsel
tall gazelle
on ST is it worth when your CDs are resetting between each other overpower and mortal strike, is it best to Overpower > Mortal Strike > Overpower > Mortal Strike, or Overpower > Overpower > Mortal Strike?
on AOE is it worth not mortal striking at all unless both Cleave and Overpower are on CD and it becomes a GCD before moving onto slam, exe, etc
on ST is it worth buffing up your cleave with 1-2 overpowers if you can with your Collateral Damage (I presume this is used in single target-ish; whenever used, I think there is a sweeping proc from something but still haven't checked it)
fresh spire
For St consuming the opportunist buff from slayer over ms otherwise ms on cd then op
paper summit
you always want to be casting something. MS take priority over everything else.
fresh spire
On aoe depends on which hero tree.
Colossus wants to cleave>ms>op
Slayer wants to
Cleave>op>execute(if marks up)>ms
dreamy spire
do we already have builds we are gonna likely to use in 11.2?
shadow ibex
this is Dazaralor level of doomposting
idk how many ppl here actually also played siege of daz
thick kelp
do we already have builds we are gonna likely to use in 11.2?
yeah
icy mulch
Aren't they the same as current?
thick kelp
Yeah
shadow ibex
icy mulch
thick kelp
few changes if you are colossus
icy mulch
Fury is no better, same talents, same cap limits.
dreamy spire
shadow ibex
Fury is no better, same talents, same cap limits.
its been a really good expansion for sure
shadow ibex
curious if fury thane gets shot or not for prot
shadow ibex
yeaaaaa
icy mulch
Like i said in Fury channel yesterday. I'm gonna suffer through this season, and see what Midnight brings. If Midnight doesn't turn things around for Warrior class, I'm just dropping WoW. No point in spending money on it when it's just not fun.
fresh spire
roar is going to be a big point of damage loss for people using it this tier which is awful
fresh spire
i hide in here np
icy mulch
After Max's little tier list, I might get stuck raid tank as well now.
fresh spire
nah
i honestly think arms will buffed
as copium as it sounds
its not actually had a real tuning pass since the spec hasnt really had any major bugs or issues
shadow ibex
yea we'll see 1 more pass
shadow ibex
but at end of the day its not solving real problems lol
icy mulch
It needs to be targeted buffs.
fresh spire
im more concerend of the impending nerfs to the thane tier bonus though, protection is making it way to strong, they don't have tier bonuses seperated beween spec, they shoot blast from 100% bonus to 50% and fury might not get conpensated its GG thane fury keys
😟
fresh spire
shot the tier and introduced the MS bug
i wouldnt be supprised if they looked at the week after and went, damage ok not realising the ms buff wasn't being consumed both in prot and arms
shadow ibex
yea
fresh spire
only turned the tier from 2 mortal strike crits into like 8 instead 😄
vapid goblet
Rework arms
icy mulch
What would they target buff for Arms anyways? More MS?
I think execute needs a massive baseline buff. That might do it.
fresh spire
Colossus tree MS damage, Roar, Bleeds, Execute baseline
thick kelp
buff mountain of muscle and scars from 5->25
fresh spire
targeting MS and OP flat isn't the option, we need everything else to feel good while trying to bring colossus ST up, buffing ms doesn't help close that gap
fresh spire
buff mountain of muscle and scars from 5->25
also this
vapid goblet
Playing MoP arms is way better than retail
fresh spire
Been ranting about this being our best talent in the entire game as it could have been used to balance colossus up to slayer but never was
😠
vapid goblet
imagine not every button needing 1000000% damage modifiers to do anything
icy mulch
Ain't that the sad truth.
vapid goblet
This is for the every spec in the game really
they need to stop with these damage modifiers
icy mulch
Ret Paladins just push the button for aoe and the other for ST. The class does the rest on its own.
fresh spire
could probs argue ret plays pretty close to arms with modifiers
fresh spire
since judgement debuff is MP glroified
icy mulch
Yes, the ST button helps the AoE button. Lol
They can't press the aoe button all the time though, so the ST button has to have some point.
Come on, if it was even remotely complicated, they wouldn't be able to chew their crayons while playing.
I can't wait to tank pug keys and have one of them throw their aoe button into a pack we don't want to pull.
shadow ibex
cant wait for rework
latent moss
im more concerend of the impending nerfs to the thane tier bonus though, protect...
they do
shadow ibex
anyday now
shadow ibex
so they just decided not to do it concerning warrior
i mean arms even ate overwhelmed nerfs cuz fury aoe was too good
"too good"
icy mulch
They can't have us stealing the mage's pad damage!
slow saddle
Arms has been Fed by what ever hero talents were to strong on other spec
weak rain
Do you think we will see last minute changes tomorrow? Or do we have to suffer till raid week
dim basalt
Small aura buff doesn't sound unrealistic tbh
weak rain
Don't think it needs "small aura buff", anywhere from 8% to 10%
swift crown
No
swift crown
and fixed the Jugg issue with Fury by making you just press the button more often
fresh spire
fury never had a jug issue
was able to keep it up clean as fuck in s2 without the extra procs
weak rain
and even if you lose jugg as fury it's not as bad as arms losing jugg
vast helm
grave mulch
fresh spire
weak rain
latent moss
static quest
m0 with weekly lookout
candid pecan
does m0 open this coming reset?
yes, make sure to fill the vault with 8 m0 runs and 8 tier 8 delves
then once season starts, we might be able to loot a tier set from the vault 694 ilvl
spark mango
thank you guys
latent moss
m0 with weekly lookout
isnt it daily
untold pewter
isnt it daily
Not anymore
untold pewter
Who knows
fast wedge
are we at all hopeful that the PTR isn’t that accurate and/or we get a buff?
tepid dagger
but the apm isn't for everyone
slow saddle
I mean thane powerfull
Vs arms aint different rly
Frenzied fury slayer, is a bit faster but its basicly just rb as much as possible once u get 4p
tepid dagger
really? interesting. everytime I switch to arms it feels slower. But feeling and being are two different things...
rare kite
Because 8 m0 in a week
6, tasz is not available for m0 first week
rare kite
idk, i'll just do the 8 8 delves and whatever m0s anyway. chances are we take socket anyway
candid pecan
Wait so we cant fill vault?
according to Kalamazi, we'll do 2 m0s twice
to fill the weekly vault
slow saddle
Y makes sense forgot u can enter just no lewt?
candid pecan
Y makes sense forgot u can enter just no lewt?
yes
slow saddle
I though dungeons would just be gone?
I love the comment sections
Mm needs 20% more dmg than any "utility" spec
20% ??😅🥰
lunar remnant
Also just play fury
Just play the new frost DK
icy mulch
Man, that guy is smoking some Crack.
icy mulch
Lust, push back, knock up, ranged interrupt, immunity, agro drop/self cleanse.
Did I miss something?
rare kite
soothe
icy mulch
Right! God such lack of utility.
glacial rapids
Aoe stun
rigid flax
rare kite
very big for certain mobs. soothe makes or breaks certain pulls
icy mulch
Lol
vast surge
Also just play fury
Rather slap myself in the nuts than play fury
icy mulch
Well... unless there is some emergency buffs for Arms, you may be left out.
slow saddle
Rather slap myself in the nuts than play fury
Then play col in keys
And accept being ok
In aoe
icy mulch
Not saying it can't do heroic and most mythic, but I doubt you'll have a good time.
rare kite
I love the comment sections
yeah hunter comments are something else. "they see how well hunter did in actual content instead of looking at the sims" crazy statement
vast surge
Then play col in keys
icy mulch
LFG for M+ is gonna be nothing but Paladins and DKs. Lol
slow saddle
Pally strong after buff?
icy mulch
Just a brain dead class that's super popular for some reason.
rare kite
Pally strong after buff?
not particularly. it's just by far the most played spec in the game
vast surge
People like hyperbole
Paladin isn’t an intricate class for sure but the skill expression is in the utility usage.
icy mulch
Which the average paladin doesn't know they have.
vast surge
I’ve played every version of frost DK since wrath as an alt and this latest iteration is the most enjoyable imo, being simple doesn’t make it bad
slow saddle
2h?
vast surge
I prefer 2h but there was a time we were forced to DW and had no access to 2h legion to SL IIRC?
slow saddle
Frostmourne is a 2h
vast surge
I think this the first time both DW and 2h have been viable at the same time?
vast surge
Frostmourne is a 2h
Sure but the blades of the fallen prince were dw
vast surge
To stubborn 2 not warrior
I get it
But fury is kind of boring to me
And grips are fun, you basically have 3 kicks/stops with it
vast surge
It really does
vast surge
Yeah, I extrapolated your intent
vast surge
I’ve always thought they could add sated style debuff and then let rally be 10% hp and second wind together
So you get upfront mitigation and provide a small heal over time as a warrior
And the sated debuff prevents warrior stacking
But it just having a bigger impact would be nice
slow saddle
Not a bad idea either
atomic basalt
Does anyone have a weakaura to remind exectue and don't slam when boss sub 35%?
jade ember
now there's a /r/wow post these ops are ridiculous
vast surge
now there's a /r/wow post these ops are ridiculous
I posted it there 😂
I made the meme for the lols
jade ember
I am sure it will be full of productive conversation (I am talking about me, I will be unproductive)
vast surge
I am sure it will be full of productive conversation (I am talking about me, I w...
It is r/wow you go there for the entertainment factor of reading silly replies by somewhat unhinged people. It’s still better than the forums though.
Shudder.
jade ember
I haven't used official forums in so long. I'm still hurt from when they deleted everything (going into Cata, I think?). My server's forum had some bangers.
summer elbow
Man execute isnt a thing anymore.. Our m+ build barely press it. Dont get me wrong, i love arms and demolish feels amazing but i miss our execute phase
latent moss
when the execute specs execute is filler and has no execute in aoe
summer elbow
I renember using execute a lot in s1 with slayer
latent moss
unfortunately exe has no aoe value
summer elbow
For raid we do use execute like always right?
summer elbow
Well i have to face the reality.. I cant wait for legión classic
rare kite
it owns next patch
summer elbow
Really? I would try that.. Mountain or slayer? M+
rare kite
mountain thane for m+
oak quartz
Not for sure.
teal fossil
fresh spire
a nerf will come to tier purely because of prot
dry frost
You got it backwards, 40% buff to thane
fresh spire
its around 40% damage incrase right now for protection :yikes:
minor gust
its not op but yeah prot thane has some good easy numbers
and will the the reason why if thane anything gets a nerf
dim basalt
Yeah both Fury and Prot thriving with Thane is pretty bad
dim basalt
They overnerfed Col Prot a lot
candid pecan
that bug was great
thick kelp
both specs
candid pecan
fixed colossus St issue 
thick kelp
thats why they shot prot
slow saddle
Yup
dim basalt
So they bugfixed that and still nerfed the tier? lol
slow saddle
So
dim basalt
Crazy decision making
slow saddle
Yes
dim basalt
They couldnt even get proper data with that bug
thick kelp
which one of you cooked up the no rend slayer
Me
minor gust
fresh spire
They nerfed the tier and it introduced a new stronger bug
minor gust
colossus needs god man that ST diff is pretty fucking bad
fresh spire
then they fixed the tier like 2 weeks later
thick kelp
dan is living proof that the no rend build works and also @latent moss
gentle frigate
Is arms that cooked?
minor gust
yeah im def gonna play around with that a bit when I get bored of Thane
no rend slayer
gentle frigate
Being target capped makes me want to kill myself lol
thick kelp
Cheers
minor gust
its running jugg but whatever its M+ who cares
slow saddle
Being target capped makes me want to kill myself lol
Who cares if it fucks
summer elbow
Guys im lvl 66 i should keep leveling in dungeon que or i could solo a dungeon for faster exp? Thanks
thick kelp
Q BFA timewalking dungeons
shadow ibex
just a few more weeks until our buffs
fresh spire
latent moss
Dobby tier spec 🥀
player diff 
thick kelp
summer elbow
How behind is slayer build for m+ from colossus? On m+? 5% 10%?
thick kelp
depends what you value
Colossus does more aoe
Slayer does more boss dam
Kinda evenish in s3
sour forge
Damn that’s looking rough
heavy patio
If you vibe with one version more just play it anyways, arms be lookin like a unicorn next patch
serene canyon
you could argue we have reached our peak with viable no rend
summer elbow
If you vibe with one version more just play it anyways, arms be lookin like a un...
Unicorn?
shadow ibex
Fr if you actually gonna play arms play whatever
summer elbow
I mean i love execute and being good at single target but also i want a decent dmg on big big pulls
summer elbow
do you notice 2mil aoe at 8t or 700k of st
Ye i got that
I think overall demo is way better for the aoe
And that is 2m on 8 targets.. Think about 15 20
thick kelp
Not gonna change at 15 or 20 cuz we are target capped wjajajajja
summer elbow
Not gonna change at 15 or 20 cuz we are target capped wjajajajja
XD
latent moss
love my cleave 5t softcap
summer elbow
love my cleave 5t softcap
Can you share your build please?
thick kelp
Which one
shadow ibex
vast helm
serene canyon
mortal rivet
guys arms warrior is gonna be so good in 12.0, dont worry about the now
spiral coral
guys arms warrior is gonna be so good in 12.0, dont worry about the now
Shiiiit
Won’t take much for arms to close the gap
I’m coping
But seriously, won’t take much
shadow ibex
surely we'll get buff
tacit crystal
real
grave mulch
fresh spire
jade ember
serene canyon
jade ember
shadow ibex
at least we have spiteful serenity
half vine
Arms will get it's day when patch 12.3 is live
jade ember
Can't wait for all the "13.0 rework for sure" posting we'll have for the next two years.
latent moss
12.0
half vine
We will get a 12.0 rework as soon as our bar shows up as pink on details
vast helm
void bay
Those coffin boys gonna be out of work when arms gets buffed
minor gust
candid pecan
surely we'll get buff
max said tuning on friday (very high chance) and tuning tommorow and next monday (low chance)
icy mulch
nocturne hedge
Damn. Came here expecting to see some hope for people looking to play arms… see these gifs instead
reef glade
can’t wait for arms to get over buffed and it instantly turns into an arms tier 3 days before the raid releases
nocturne hedge
Guess it’s back to carpel tunnel on mid tier fury
rare kite
can’t wait for arms to get over buffed and it instantly turns into an arms tier ...
3% aura
reef glade
both kinda gigantic haste
nocturne hedge
Arms is for sure slower feeling than fury
sour forge
Guess it’s back to carpel tunnel on mid tier fury
How much more apm do you think fury has?
latent moss
Damn. Came here expecting to see some hope for people looking to play arms… see...
ye maybe if spec had gameplay and tuning
nocturne hedge
Idk, never measured. I just know my wrist had no trouble with arms and fury feels like rolling my face on keyboard to hit all 5 CDs and lighting up nonsense attacks
Fury is the least coordinated spec aside from rogue’s pre-reworked bs they have going on
Arms at least had a rhythm and felt slower and more purposeful last I played it, but that was a year or two ago.
sour forge
When’s the last time you played fury
nocturne hedge
Last season
latent moss
thane isnt that fast (powerful enrage)
sour forge
I guess idk what you mean by “least coordinated”
nocturne hedge
So we’re praying for a buff to arms on Tuesday? Is that the vibe in here?
latent moss
hectic ig
nocturne hedge
Or did most of you reroll?
astral yarrow
play fury
sour forge
I’m swapping back to fury
astral yarrow
or prot
latent moss
latent moss
prot gonna kill dps warriors
minor gust
Or did most of you reroll?
arms isnt that hot right now but its not bad enough you cant do the content you wanna do. If its fun for you and you dont like your other options just play it. More tuning will happen throughout the season
nocturne hedge
arms isnt that hot right now but its not bad enough you cant do the content you ...
Hell yeah
astral yarrow
the issue is public perception though
nocturne hedge
I’m gonna try it. May end up loving it. May also have a prot off spec lol
summer elbow
Iughh dude?
mortal rivet
I’m gonna try it. May end up loving it. May also have a prot off spec lol
Prot is a great off spec
Fun, high damage, big survivability
minor gust
the issue is public perception though
not much you can do about that pugging is always gonna be a nightmare which is why it should be recommended for anyone who wants to just play what they want to make friends
the infamous F word
latent moss
Iughh dude?
?
astral yarrow
not much you can do about that pugging is always gonna be a nightmare which is w...
or just roll the most meta class and get to play the game and the content you want
mortal rivet
Oh I was making a joke
minor gust
also a valid option something a lot of people already do
sour forge
Meta is boring
Meta is boring if you’re rerolling
mortal rivet
Truth
sour forge
If suddenly fury/arms was meta we’d be having a blast
untold pewter
We just want to play Arms without getting buttfucked by Blizzard, somehow that's asking too much
dim basalt
Prot is gonna get nerfed by end of RWF mark my words
while VDH will still sit at the top yup
sour forge
This is one of the issues with hero trees honestly
Like arms caught strays cause prot was huge
untold pewter
I don't think this is a hero tree issue
nocturne hedge
Cause neither are meta
Hahaha
latent moss
Like arms caught strays cause prot was huge
its not
untold pewter
They could, and have the ability to, tune separately despite the hero trees
They're just lazy or unwilling to do so
untold pewter
Exactly
mortal rivet
It’s cause they forgot arms was real
sour forge
I mean they are the big boys
They’re still top dog if not really close even after all the nerfs
nocturne hedge
I went Ret last season, which was a blast. But everyone is a ret paladin. Haven’t tried DK in years
Plus two 1H’s sounds fun and fast
sour forge
Only junk part is the loot table still gives you access to 2h I think
mortal rivet
I don’t like DKs play
spiral coral
Same
Fdk could be the best spec that ever existed on the damage meters. I don’t give a shit. It’s boring (to me).
mortal rivet
And how the only way they’re relevant is either a grippable add or absurd damage
mortal rivet
Only way we’re relevant is full phys comps tho…
And every raid?
If there are no grippable adds and the dps isn’t broken, you don’t need to bring any dk
spiral coral
I like the build choices we have next season for arms. Fury Slayer and Mountain Thane.
shadow ibex
sour forge
arms slayer > colo in m+
Decent prio damage I guess
sour forge
Ya that’s rough
spiral coral
arms slayer > colo in m+
What I was thinking to until I try hard then switch to mt
Arms Slayer (to me) is the most enjoyable spec even though it’s dominated by a wa. I fucking love it.
sour forge
It’s funny how Thanes ionizing strikes was like .3% damage at first and now it’ll do like 10% on st
latent moss
Arms Slayer (to me) is the most enjoyable spec even though it’s dominated by a w...
no rend
makes it 100% better
100x*
spiral coral
I’ve kept my head in the sand 
what
I haven’t watched any videos or read anything lol
astral yarrow
just team dentge cooking too hard
fossil thistle
We’ll get another 5% damage buff in 11.2.5
minor gust
it will have its fun in the smaller dungeons
they didnt do any changes in 11.1.5 so im not expecting anything this time
fossil thistle
This team for reals
astral yarrow
love my post progress buffs 
swift crown
love my post progress buffs <:okayge:917646812519739433>
post prog buffs own
you can not care at all
latent moss
I’ve kept my head in the sand <:peepostudy:617259554530656262> what
slayer no rend owns
a little bit worse aoe
much much better st
astral yarrow
you can not care at all
latent moss
sd wa > cleave > opport > ms > exe > op
minor gust
Slayer doesnt have bleed amp tier list or a bleed node in hero tree
latent moss
it owns
minor gust
bleeds arent that big for slayer
sour forge
Ya I guess that’s true. It just sounds weird lol
summer elbow
slayer no rend owns
I can see that build please?
sour forge
I mean thunderous words would be borderline trash as a talent point with no rend
latent moss
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latent moss
I mean thunderous words would be borderline trash as a talent point with no ren...
ye
but i havent tried 2x cruel
so idk
sims dont mean much
latent moss
cause when u drop
rend
u can drop bloodletting
and both bloodbornes
and u can talent into jugg/ep/ct
we were looking for more st
colo cant squeeze more st
also no rend is just much nicer to play
especially no sks
sour forge
Ya it seems like the old jugg m+ build
latent moss
whats based about dropping rend is that u are not dropping cleave
mbg/blademasters/collat
all there
minor gust
last time we play jugg bleeds carried the aoe now bleeds are dead and its all cleave and reap
cunning comet
whats based about dropping rend is that u are not dropping cleave
🐈 👈
void bay
Did he really get banned
last saddle
free pummel
chilly hearth
Ravager or BS for m+ in S3?
night mulch
fading sage
heavy patio
its legit
finite wasp
how do you guys feel about arms being a piece of shit according to ptr tierlists
chilly hearth
how do you guys feel about arms being a piece of shit according to ptr tierlists
Its another Friday Like any other tbh
finite wasp
the aoe is actually good, but the single target from what i experienced in ptr is absolutely terrible.
chilly hearth
Slayer Is MOST likely a soft spot between an acceptable aoe and a much more solid ST
sour forge
Ravager or BS for m+ in S3?
Col takes ravager. Slayer takes bs
latent moss
the aoe is actually good, but the single target from what i experienced in ptr i...
aoe is not that good
its behind quite a bit compared to others
and st is absolutely dogshit
colo needs god fast
slayer is better for sure
i kept up better as slayer than as colo
on bosses im competitive
colo is behind by a bit then is behind by a lot after a boss
finite wasp
slayer is better for sure
alright i havent tried slayer in m+ yet but thats kind of wild that colussus getting beaten by slayer on aoe i may have to try it and see
latent moss
its not getting beaten in aoe
its just getting obliterated on st
while not being much ahead at all on aoe
- arms has no real upsides damage profile in general
slayer helps there
gives u better prio/2t
its absolutely WILD
that colossus is losing to slayer on 2t
how is that ever legal
colo needs god fast
practiced strikes needs like a 20% increase
just 20% on ms and cleave fuck it we ball
go to the moon
im not sure if that would even save it ngl
probably would
golden ibex
i lowkey would wish slayer and colossus switch place, so slayer is the m+ spec and colossus the st
latent moss
idk the only reason slayer is alive in m+
is cause of reap
u cleave and proc reap
99% of the time
and reap is a good 30% of ur damage
golden ibex
Yeah for me its about gameplay flow, i think the slayer aoe profile is more fun to play
latent moss
Yeah for me its about gameplay flow, i think the slayer aoe profile is more fun ...
for context
1 minute 8t
3 minute st
minor gust
colossus should still do better in mass aoe but it wont be by anything crazy
golden ibex
Isn't arms in general due a buff? Ret Pala was in a horrible spot as well a couple of weeks ago, but its looking alright now
latent moss
Isn't arms in general due a buff? Ret Pala was in a horrible spot as well a coup...
very much in need of a buff
golden ibex
I'd want them to make execute strong again,
latent moss
colossus should still do better in mass aoe but it wont be by anything crazy
30s 8t
colo is not convincing
this is where it should absolutely destroy slayer
last saddle
they'll revert the monk aura nerf back to 8%
latent moss
and aura nerf us for 3%
latent moss
I'd want them to make execute strong again,
gotta make it aoe for arms
fury doesnt have this issue cause fury has 5t
we have 2
our exe cant hit more than 2
toxic elm
thane nerf, rend buff
latent moss
so it just completely loses all value
toxic elm
initial hit from rend buff even better
latent moss
remove rend
minor gust
rend can be forgotten ty
latent moss
fuck rend genueinly
sour forge
thane nerf, rend buff
No boo
golden ibex
Yeah aoe execute could be dope. But i also think in general it just doesn't hit hard enough. Like when i think of warrior execute and charge are their signature abilities, but execute is a noodle just used for upkeep or rage dump instead of being the "fun" time.
last saddle
2x excecute damage
execute should do no dmg and summon a warlock for the remainder of the fight to dps for you
golden ibex
new warrior buff, Execute now heals the target
last saddle
they're going to nerf execute by 10% because prot dmg is too strong
midnight kraken
heavy patio
nocturne hedge
I’m gonna play this shit spec regardless
I’m going to play it and no one can stop me
minor gust
summer elbow
This is single target right
nocturne hedge
https://tenor.com/view/easter-funny-shrek-funny-face-gif-16711314694006391008
Violation of rule 2
Arms warrior is going to be excellent
Best melee dps class. Why? Because we’re playing it and we’re enjoying it.
nocturne hedge
You said slayer was winning
those SS show colo ahead almost always
And the only time slayer is ahead it’s by a butt hair’s width
minor gust
nocturne hedge
In m+ if colo is taking the lead in AOE in every single situation and only slightly behind in single target, sounds like colo is the better. At least, that’s what your screenshots seem to show, lmk if that wasn’t the conclusion you were drawing
minor gust
Aoe isnt the only important thing in M+
latent moss
its not slightly behind in st xd
minor gust
everything is a trade off
minor gust
and currently massively ahead ST compared to minimally behind AOE
summer elbow
Blade storm sounds more fun than ravager anyways
Thissss
Plus slayer sounds amazing
And reap the storm is fun
Spin Spin Spin
nova marsh
https://i.imgflip.com/a1vjj2.gif
we should make one of these for enhance
gusty nymph
i cant believe they ll let it go through like this....
minor gust
we should make one of these for enhance
wrong discord
icy mulch
heavy patio
it'll get buffed no worres, im just hoping they dont buff bleeds
toxic elm
rend buffed to compensate for colo nerf
latent moss
heavy patio
I'm betting they just get yet another aura buff and they slap another 15% dam on bladestorm
icy mulch
I mean, that's pointless enough that it might actually happen. lol
grave mulch
icy mulch
sour forge
summer elbow
1 5% execute, 20 mortal strike, 20% blade storm will help
sour forge
Sks buff
latent moss
rare kite
summer elbow
I mean fury is way worst than us
rare kite
I mean fury is way worst than us
not true next patch
lethal acorn
I mean fury is way worst than us
Yes but I agree only in preference, if fury was top 1 dps and arms was bottom 1, I would still play arms, specifically the colossus tree
icy mulch
Sks buff
An ability called "Skull Spliter" that doesn't actually split skulls is garbage.
last saddle
https://tenor.com/view/dr-evil-how-about-no-austin-powers-gif-17640212
pov khadgar
sour forge
An ability called "Skull Spliter" that doesn't actually split skulls is garbage.
True but it still fits well with Col tier
minor gust
I mean fury is way worst than us
icy mulch
pov khadgar
shadow ibex
sks could probably just be baked into cs or smth
but also scrap the whole thing and start over anyway
minor gust
It should be just baked into cs/wb
nova marsh
Daily reminder that forced movement is cringe
vast helm
mossy mica
what is the best stance to run for arms? for mop
minor gust
Wrong discord go check out fight club
balmy kindle
fdk or havoc ??
balmy kindle
Really screw playing DK though , so slow
balmy kindle
Pretty sure DB is stronger no ?
runic rock
It's honestly probably a good thing arms is in last place right now because when they do changes in the next couple weeks arms should be the first to get buffed
Better than both specs just sitting b tier
Cause they usually don't touch the b tier classes
plain latch
we might get the mop charge range change and a pat on the back
zealous pivot
bro im getting gaslighted
theyre telling me reflecting arching void in rook makes it go back to someone on the party
can i get smart warrior guy
to confirm or deny
magic canopy
if you are near someone it still hits them
zealous pivot
if they are in the circle right?
magic canopy
ya
zealous pivot
but otherwise no?
magic canopy
if you are far it shouldnt
thick hamlet
I'll take 100% inc bladestorm damage thanks
swift crown
https://tenor.com/view/dancing-coffin-coffin-dance-funeral-funny-farewell-gif-16...
I'm out anyway 
grave mulch
balmy kindle
2h frost seems to be the plau
Yeah I know 2hs stronger but man rider is brain-dead
Idw frakking play rider FDk
fresh spire
latent moss
thick kelp
high field
Buff warrior
candid pecan
Buff warrior
grave mulch
The gif is the only way
floral ledge
Buff warrior
dim basalt
zenith dagger
balmy kindle
It's ok blizz wants us to RP anduin 
, surely he will pop off and then we get buffs no ?
fresh spire
halcyon wind
give it to me straight doc, are we playing Fury next tier, so far?
latent moss
slow saddle
Yeah I know 2hs stronger but man rider is brain-dead
I think fdks kit and playstyle is updated enough for it to be smart
slow saddle
give it to me straight doc, are we playing Fury next tier, so far?
Hopefully we get a big buff to col st and arms overall
Coz with amp phases i wanna send demos
zealous arch
give it to me straight doc, are we playing Fury next tier, so far?
Pretty much - yes. But even then it's going to be bottom mid-tier.
open ingot
thats what they rated it
open ingot
its not bad hopefully we can make the most of the burst phases
open ingot
im coping it would be nice for a big buff to arms and little one to fury
but we will still probs be aight
slow saddle
Fury dont need buff dmg wise
Its a bad dmg profile for this raid
Happens
Would need to buff of + roar + bladestorm decently
slow saddle
I mean if amp is in last 35% or 21 second 2 target
We got a chance
To be not deadlast if we get a 10/15% % buff
🤣
spare steppe
fluid charm
Damn fury better than arms in 11.2? Welp it was fun while it last
candid pecan
Damn fury better than arms in 11.2? Welp it was fun while it last
its not over yet
fluid charm
its not over yet
?
candid pecan
tuning tonight (maybe)
tuning on friday (for sure)
tuning next monday (maybe)
fluid charm
U think it would go up to a B or A/A+ tier dps?
candid pecan
worst case scenario, they do nothing but nerf thane tier set because of prot and then we'll all play fury in raid, mashing our heads on SD procs/rampage/raging blow
slow saddle
Best case
fluid charm
I hope we get a good buff for M+ because if arms and fury sucks ass I’ll just main ele shaman next patch I rather not because warrior is my main but I’m not gonna be in a waiting list for 4 hours to get into an M+ run
slow saddle
They buff of roar spear reckless abandon
Prot migt be the solution for queue just like resto sham is
fluid charm
Prot migt be the solution for queue just like resto sham is
😐
slow saddle
Is what it is, dps queue is always longet
fluid charm
Yeah I rather not play an important role like tank or healer I just feel like I’m at that lvl of skill yet
slow saddle
Well tanking is easier
Than anything
Unless
U are pushing
Id say esp if we play thane🤣
Just clapediclap
fluid charm
I’ll think about it but never tanked M+ before
viral locust
