#arms

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warm cave
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Hence viable in quotes

dim basalt
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Everyone plays Colossus because its better

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Not because Slayer isnt viable

worldly sentinel
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I mean i main prot so, but gonna be dpsing from time to time next season so wanna figure out how i do it best

dim basalt
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It will still be Colossus for next season

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Build didnt really change

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You run SKS but thats it

worldly sentinel
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we run SKS next season for both builds?

dim basalt
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Col only

rare kite
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tho arms will prob get buffed since they're not doing so well in raid

worldly sentinel
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right

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more ST?

rare kite
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yeah and basically as good aoe, just rng reliant on massive pulls. arms st is down bad in m+ next season

sour forge
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Buff sks or give ms crit damage

dim basalt
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Horrible design

sour forge
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Idk just tossing ideas to fit with the tier

shadow ibex
sour forge
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I’m sure there’s a bunch of different things you could do

shadow ibex
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well spec fantasy ig

jade ember
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Guys I have a new idea for a crit stat replacement. Instead of increased damage it can proc another instance of damage. Like multi-damage. Maybe we can call it multistrike.

sour forge
jade ember
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Or maybe you're an expert at not getting parried or dodged. We can call it expertise.

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Or maybe you're good at... hitting stuff. We can call it... uh

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Ya I got nothing for that one

shadow ibex
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mastery

lucid thicket
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Or perhaps, weapon skill

jade ember
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I was def going for hit. I spend every day of my life trying to forget about weapon skill.

lucid thicket
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Weapon Skill is great

slow saddle
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I mean its quite easy make demo always crit and for every crit % we have its changed into crit dmg for demo

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Now demo isnt random and always fucks equally

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Same time we buff roar so bleeds are better with sks

shadow ibex
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they would nuke dam on it sadge

unreal zodiac
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Does raidbots have an option that give you suggested gems for slots based off your build/gear?

sour forge
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Top gear

slow saddle
sour forge
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Make sure to select gems at the bottom

slow saddle
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So that both specs do more, but col get a bit more benefit

quick frost
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Fellas, should I use my last puzzling cartel coin things on the jastor diamond ring, or the house of cards trinket

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I've got a feeling the trinket is better

minor gust
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Dafuck did you waste your cartel chips on that you can't get both

sour forge
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Did you get them as heroic? Then unlock mythic?

jade ember
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Maybe he's a prot main or sumn

wind tinsel
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New to arms, do i send demolish on CD or do i wait to always have warbreaker/collosus up?

minor gust
keen raven
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Can someone give me a tip in what to do in execute phase ig we are not playing with the talent that gives extra dmg to MS? We just spam execute and Op?

thick kelp
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you spam ms and op

keen raven
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Aight, so we never use execute. Ty

thick kelp
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its a slam replacement whenever you can use it

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when not talented into jugg and or ep

keen raven
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Got it. Cheers

silk gull
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Really struggling to get my DPS up as arms warrior, seem to do okay in mythic+ but raid wise i'm at the bottom. Are my stats hindering me as i've been going for ilvl up until recently where i'm trying to get my stats right

thick kelp
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More ilvl

jade ember
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It depends a lot on who you are comparing yourself too

thick kelp
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for 23more ilvls

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:bigsmile

jade ember
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Your ilvl is really low

silk gull
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I've only just joined xpac sorry

jade ember
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Also KU-JO vents bad, also it looks like you don't have 4P?

thick kelp
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Also no 4pc

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bad trinkets

latent moss
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ye u are like 23 ilvls behind

void sigil
thick kelp
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1 crafted item so no embellishments

void sigil
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You'll get there bud, just need more items/better itemization and full set

silk gull
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No 4pc either

jade ember
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Get 4P, use cartel chips to buy a House of Cards. Ideally you want a better passive trinket than Eye of Kezan too just because bosses die very fast right now. It's good to have for the beginning of next season, though.

silk gull
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I'm not doubting you but it's my only resource

jade ember
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Kezan is good, if bosses you're killing live a long time.

dim basalt
thick kelp
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mythic eye sims better than most trinkets at 4+min fights

silk gull
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Also I did a few rounds of the chips quest and she isn't giving me more

jade ember
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There's a world where he's in a guild with bad dps where it's more of something but even bad dps this late into the season should blow anything below mythic up.

dim basalt
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Even in a bad guild you shouldnt be hitting that timer often

jade ember
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Ja

void sigil
jade ember
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Oh he's already used all 12 I missed that

sacred zodiac
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all 12 susge

silk gull
jade ember
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All 9 sorry warrior math

thick kelp
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Sorry to hear that

jade ember
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I'm tired af flipped my schedule to catch a flight at 7am tomorrow morning

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Yeah farm Flood for a Pacemaker is your best bet. Target farming M+ drops sucks, though.

silk gull
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If it's the only thing I could be doing right now i'll go for it

thick kelp
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we gonna have like 3+ trinkets to farm from dungeons next season with a whopping 1 or 2 "good-ish" raid trinkets

jade ember
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Or do a bunch of delves and get one of those trinkets. Funhouse is good. Energy Drink is good. Etc.

dim basalt
jade ember
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Hell yeah Pumped for Sacbrood Pacemaker wombo combo

latent moss
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more than what we had this season

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need funhouse / hoc

thick kelp
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Cursed stone idol, soleahs, pacemaker, arakara

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also one big mastery trinket from DELVES

latent moss
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ticking sack of terror

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used to fuck

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in sl

thick kelp
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Still fucks

latent moss
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cursed stone idol is gonna explode

wanton sierra
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i got the big mastery trink from delves, but somehow funhouselens sims better for me

jade ember
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Cursed Stone would be nice if it's tuned well as a M+ 90s trinket

thick kelp
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oh it is tuned

latent moss
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its tuned insanely high

thick kelp
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extremely well

latent moss
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its like 25k crit

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xddddddd

void sigil
jade ember
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Niceu

latent moss
thick kelp
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but it has a cast time

thick kelp
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Posted trinket sims there today

latent moss
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holy

jade ember
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Dude I lived through Puzzie Box if it's good I'll take it.

latent moss
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ahhahahaha

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not even 5 mil

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slayer arms

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🥀

wanton sierra
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i wasant trackin it, but early season i thought the big mastery trinket from delves was superior than funhouse lens... it got nerfed? i remember bloodmallet records... now its close, but when i sim funhouse is wayy better

fresh spire
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They hotfixed the mastery trinket to not be hasted

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Also took a 5% nerf later on

wanton sierra
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that must be it

slow saddle
latent moss
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until they removed that

dreamy sandal
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Anyone have any cool M+ PTR build to try out?

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I know there is a bleed build going around

thick kelp
dreamy sandal
thick kelp
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3rd times the charm

silk gull
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Sorry folks for asking such stupid questions but sometimes I find myself lost in all the spell effects and I wont even be meleeing, is there anything to reduce it. I changed the setting in game but it did nothing

thick kelp
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if you have it all the way down and stil cant tell, get a weakaura that tells you in red bold letters that you arent in melee range

fresh spire
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Insane true

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Someone test macroing Idol to bladestorm

unreal mountain
wanton sierra
rare kite
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i'm not a believer in arterial bleed in m+ anymore after the tier nerf

slow saddle
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Also dreadnaught // str of arms is just to strong to skip

fresh spire
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Went from being equal damage on average to .7 behind.

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It has potential

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Arterial is a big St juice too stacking with tier and sks

latent moss
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this spec needs god on st

rare kite
shadow ibex
thick kelp
slow saddle
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Vs 5% bleed?

thick kelp
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yes

rare kite
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no tier that buffs overpower makes a pretty decent difference

slow saddle
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Our tier so passive i forgot

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🤣

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Well hopefully roar gets a significant buff

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Same with spear

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And let us be master bleeders

wanton sierra
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new talent spear nodule: spear of bastion has now half its cd, and for every target it grips, reduce some cd, until 45sec cd ^^

shadow ibex
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10% on abilities

slow saddle
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Plz no more dmg on abilities

shadow ibex
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Yes

slow saddle
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Or well

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Only on ms

wanton sierra
# slow saddle Well hopefully roar gets a significant buff

spear should be very close to roar, they share the lasts talents nodules, i mean, they "lock in" the build... roar being far superior makes no scence... ive seen some prot playin spear and some pvpers... but not like "m+ dps spear build"

teal fossil
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Ya

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The common complaint is that they are basically the same shit

slow saddle
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Roar needs to get reset to what it wad

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Buffed gen bleeds

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So sks synergy is back🤣

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Collosus super bleed.

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Oh ye and big demo smack

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Then tiny bleeds🤣

wanton sierra
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damn but the flat percentage from "one against many" is very noticeble

slow saddle
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M8 im pretty certain we playin that ib m+

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Dno why they nerfed bleeds

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When main issue was tier bug for prot

forest dove
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Where we at right now on PTR? I picked feral and arms as contenders for s3, and feral is doing healer damage… so give me some good news 😞

slow saddle
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Arms also

wanton sierra
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we are on good spot, not last but not meta... in the midway i belive, but all i did was watch come streamers talking about their tiers lists, so

slow saddle
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M8 we were mid

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We are worse now

forest dove
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Mid like middle? Or mid like how tiktokkers say it?

slow saddle
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Low middle

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Below thane

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And thane is middle

forest dove
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Oh god

wanton sierra
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very last spot to be consider "middle" xD

forest dove
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Don’t make me play fury

slow saddle
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U will

wanton sierra
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xD

slow saddle
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Thane is pretty decent since buffs

wanton sierra
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i shant! im always arms, no matter what is happening... ppl makes fun of me

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last week i tried to play m+, i logged on and there was like 5 options of keys (+16 to +18) i sitted like 20 min and gave up

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zero gamers playing

bleak dawn
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i think we're all just in the S3 waiting room

wanton sierra
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yes im playin some single player games... like Dredge, expedition 33, darkest dungeon 2, heartsone battlegrounds and arena.... i miss to push score

bleak dawn
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me too

shadow ibex
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This season way too long

fresh spire
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Planning to make a feedback channel on ptr with details surrounding jug. Archis suggested change in s3 and something they can do now to make jug less cringe. I'll post link later when it's done. If people would like to move post to NA forums would be nice. Even so. Post your honest feelings about jug and lets get something done about it

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Extending jug rn to 20 seconds makes execute a rotational button not a weakaura button. As much as its a bandaid tier has fucked over the s2 jug desires

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Will post all info with sims/stuff too

wanton sierra
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nice point, big krisp... i think jugg stacks takes too long to build itself up... maybe something like demolish, when you crit you shall get 2x stacks

fresh spire
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Archis feedback idea works perfectly. Until you introduce the tier giving us way more sudden deaths. You was able to ramp it at 6 seconds

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Tier kinda fucked it

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You have two play styles. Every time you press execute for next 6 seconds it's your highest prio to spam it as much as you can for big damage or we extend jugs duration from 15 to 20 as a bandaid till they can rework it properly in 12.0 with the rest of warrior. But 20 seconds jug on average you extend it purposely on sims 2/3times on average instead of 14 times

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You play around execute as a button not a weakaura

thick kelp
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the 6s one is the fun one

fresh spire
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Natural flow of execute>slam is almost enough to maintain jug

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6 second one has some clunkyness to it.

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As if you execute back to back it's a dps loss

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Since you want to delay jug still slightly to try obtain 5 stacks

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Best thing we could hope for at current point in patch is them buffing jugs duration so we don't play around it. Naurually stays up. Then when patch is over tier set gets exploded change to something else

spiral coral
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Hmu tonight if you want (not selling, just want gamers to game)

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People treating 10s and shit like valuable assets danderson

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I should make a free boosting club just to fuck with all the sellers

viral locust
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I remember free boosting club getting reported and people banned as boosting communities mass reported them 🤣🤣

wanton sierra
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im down! hehe on shadowlands we gathered up to play only warriors xD was fun

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i dont have any keystone

latent moss
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until they rework it properly

fresh spire
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Likely way too late

latent moss
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ye

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saj

fresh spire
latent moss
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duration increase prolly easiest way to band aid it for now

fresh spire
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How jug usage shifts if we moved to 20.seconds

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Actually cast more execute over slams than from the weakaura

latent moss
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weakaura truly ruined this spec sadge

fresh spire
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Real and true

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Tier almost bandaided it.

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Just not enough procs

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Jug still falls off

latent moss
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so annoying

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hope they just bump the duration to 20 or smth

wanton sierra
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if juggernout gets fixed, maybe we see some potential on improved cleave? since we supposedly plays arterial and bleed focused talents... colateral damage behind? holy smokes!

latent moss
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collateral is way ahead still

wanton sierra
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ye

fresh spire
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Collateral is king

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Always will be if cleave is involved

rare kite
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if they fix jugg by adding duration that is such an ass way to fix it. dumbass maintenance buff

wicked plume
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is arms one of the locked in specs for brewmaster comps?

feral might be replaced by rdruid
hunter or rogue
rshaman or enhancement

minor gust
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Yes a warrior is required for phys comp

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Wether it's arms prot or fury doesn't matter

mortal rivet
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Why would a physical comp rise with the nerf back to 5% for mystic touch? I’m assuming wizard comp will still be meta

latent moss
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prolly dps warr

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with brew

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unless brew explodes

mortal rivet
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And VDH is still in a great spot

latent moss
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u would never play vdh in a physical comp

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monk + warr + resto shaman + feral + rogue or smth

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by rogue i mean outlaw

wicked plume
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is rdruid preferred over rshaman? and is the shaman raid buff/utility required even if enhance doesnt do physical damage (for the most part)

latent moss
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feral is giga

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afaik

mortal rivet
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Oh I understand, I’m just referring to an all physical group still will be weaker than the standard meta comp

latent moss
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idk if actually weaker

wicked plume
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i saw ayije doing +19 ara kara on PTR and he was doing like 8 million HPS at points... not sure which healers can keep up with that

latent moss
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people just play what top people play

wicked plume
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oh yeah, I mean a physical comp in general - not suggesting it might be meta this season. but if you were playing in one i wondered if arms would be locked in as a DPS

sour forge
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Fury is looking pretty good

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Might be worth having the extra boss dmg

wicked plume
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WW looked bad and i can't see MW being better than druid or shaman for healer, so that leaves brew

mortal rivet
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Fury trying to pretend to be the arcane mage and prio target murder

mortal rivet
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resto shaman would also prefer everyone being stacked

sour forge
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Rip Col ST

latent moss
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arms is just shit

wicked plume
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crazy, fury was not on my radar at all. i will look into it

latent moss
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not even colo specific

mortal rivet
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Fury is fun

sour forge
wicked plume
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i played some fury in SL and it was a fun season

minor gust
mortal rivet
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I thought he was talking meta not that it doesn’t exist. My b my b

leaden anchor
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when using dreadnaught in colossus m+ do you prio overpower over ms? or does the prio stay the same and you just end up with some extra passive aoe

wicked plume
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i tried playing feral last season but ended up doing keys as resto so i need a DPS class without a healer spec to keep me focused

leaden anchor
sour forge
slow saddle
minor gust
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Colo and thane will prob still be pretty close on overall but thane should be really competitive with arms this season

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ST advantage will be big

slow saddle
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Crit said thane better

minor gust
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Also JA CLAPPA is more fun than demolish

slow saddle
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I still say

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Clappa shouldda been arms spec not.slayer

minor gust
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I was doing some ptr keys as thane shits pretty good

sour forge
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Slayer makes sense for arms

slow saddle
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No

mortal rivet
minor gust
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Keeping up with bad Fdks is funny

mortal rivet
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I know that was the concern for mystic touch

slow saddle
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It plays terribly

latent moss
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thane is good

latent moss
sour forge
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But it makes sense that arms has execute hero tree

jade ember
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High-prio thunder claps doesn't really make sense with how Arms works rn, like that works against Collat. Altho I guess Cleave wouldn't be so jesus without Col.

minor gust
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My fav part about thane is how you get so many TB procs you never really think about WW stacks and when you do you like pressing TB or even TC because they do dmg unlike WW

sour forge
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Ww is sneaky

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Solid 6-8% overall

slow saddle
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And a tree that doesnt work that well with it

minor gust
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It's better after the 130% buffs lol but brain still thinks it's shit to press unlike TB which is all your dmg

sour forge
latent moss
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if it was just pure exe

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sure

slow saddle
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Bladestorm and reap

latent moss
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idk whats the point of reap

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they couldve made

slow saddle
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Slayer strikes

latent moss
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sd cleave

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to 8 targets

slow saddle
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Makes no sense

latent moss
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or smth

minor gust
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Holy

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Based

latent moss
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prot got it

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heavy handed

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the new talent

minor gust
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Yup

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And Jugg removed

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But tbf it's only 3 target exe

latent moss
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ye cause tank innit

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  • works on all exe
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or just s3 df

minor gust
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Should be a Slayer talent but idk how that would work with fury since ST abilities cleave

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S3 DF is the answer

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Needs to be an arms talent

latent moss
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i mean they can do

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sd cleaves for 100% of its damage or something

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for fury

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and for arms it cleaves on its own idk

slow saddle
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I just think arms should get the df season 3 4p in their three

minor gust
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Just needed the DF tier set to make SD valuable in AOE that shit is Slayers biggest problem

slow saddle
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Yeav

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That ability was so pog

heavy patio
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Would be nice if for arms, if you execute during sweeping strikes it extends the duration of it

slow saddle
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Lol

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In theory yes, in practice well come degen playstyle🤣

heavy patio
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Ramp up to rextroy cleave xD

slow saddle
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Just bring back aa and condemn

heavy patio
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But arms needs that back. It needs giga critz back

fresh spire
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Rextory reason we can't press sweep before bosses in raid or keys anymore

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All because of pandaria content

shadow ibex
silk gull
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I'm not sure how to sim yet, they Wick's golden loop will be better than the roulettle wheel ring once it's upgraded right?

minor gust
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I suggest learning to sim because we can't really answer that

heavy patio
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Imagine if slayer got executioners precision built in too

silk gull
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Do you know if when you sim it will tell if it's better when upgraded?

minor gust
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But it most likely will be better assuming your playing Slayer raid

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In top gear you can set them both to max upgrade

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Pressing the + button next to the item

slow saddle
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Arms needs juggernaut gone

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Legit tom is dead if they also kill juggernaut

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Im happy

minor gust
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As long as our rage situation stays the same Tom will always be dead

latent moss
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tom is forever dead

olive nest
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Fuk tom fuk tom…

minor gust
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Should of been removed along with spiteful for new talents but alas that never happened and instead we got an existing talent cut in half

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Ohhhh the misery

quasi torrent
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@swift crown
🌊🐷
🚽

swift crown
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Who pinged

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Wavepig toilet

minor gust
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Gio57

quasi torrent
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think about it

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a DEEP think

swift crown
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Beachporkbowl

quasi torrent
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stop playing games

swift crown
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No

quasi torrent
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oki :3

swift crown
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Seapigblanktoilet

quasi torrent
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\n

slow saddle
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Oh we heard u like choice

leaden anchor
# latent moss ms>op

quick follow up, during SS is it still ms > op with dreadnaught? a few guides say op > ms during ss with dreadnaught

slow saddle
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We cut battlelord in 2 and made secondpart a choice node

slow saddle
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Ms as col

latent moss
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for colossal might

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and just damage in general

leaden anchor
shadow ibex
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It must be bad if we gotta beg on forums

sour forge
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What are the chances warrior gets buffed 3 weeks in a row

minor gust
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Arms pretty high

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Considering how far behind it is with fury

shadow ibex
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I think we waiting for s3 undermine week

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I really don't think they know how arms is

wanton sierra
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man they should do an pool, i mean... we know the most picked talents and the ones that has 0% pick rate.... those in particular should receive some love, rework, reposition, remove... idk, we players follow efficiency so ppl wont pick those, they should balance it... make it more viable

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like spiteful serenity, never used it... dance of death...

slow saddle
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So am and spitefull isnt rly a choix
Ce

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Rather give us something that makes us more bursty in our cd

sour forge
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There’s always gonna be dead talents

slow saddle
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To compete with am

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Like fury has with ra

sour forge
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RA is awful now

spiral coral
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So they have to know what’s mainly used node wise

slow saddle
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And adds higher burst potential in cost of slower cdr

shadow ibex
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War breaker and blunt is an exception as is DN and SoA I guess

wanton sierra
slow saddle
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Str of

shadow ibex
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Yea but even that's just a wash either way

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1% gain st or aoe which do you want

wanton sierra
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i use DN on prio and cincer

minor gust
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Most of our choice nodes is ST vs AOE which is fine

slow saddle
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Agreed

minor gust
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Just wish there was more creativity

wanton sierra
sour forge
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I think fury has one actual choice node “choice”

shadow ibex
wanton sierra
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damn im now on 320 rank!! jesus! months without playin xD but i cant even push now, there is no groups

shadow ibex
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Cuz then it's just slot this perma or this perma

minor gust
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Not necessarily

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M+ is a mix of both ST and aoe

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Your not always prioing AOE talents

wanton sierra
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ye, depends on group... ppl ask me if i can do more st build on some dgs

minor gust
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Allows you to mix and match depending on pref

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Not saying our talent situation is perfect for this but the ST vs AOE choice is not bad

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Colossus does it right now do you want SOA for more ST and prio or DN for more overall

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Same with the warlord and blade master torment

slow saddle
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Bladrmaster is better

minor gust
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There use cases for both

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It's not just flat out better

slow saddle
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Well most bosses have companions

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U can funnel into big dmg?

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Looks good🤣

minor gust
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Its not flat out better in every dungeon

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And every comp

wanton sierra
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dmg is important ofc, but if we talk about numbers, on early season big gammers pushed 18s 19s with heroic gear, its like 15 ilvl behind and they did it... hier keys is more coordination and prestine gameplay than big screenshots of details overalls... i used to top every dungeon, but this season im not toppin xD i top some but mostly im second or even 3rd with st build

wanton sierra
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yes but i dont know how i can find it xD

slow saddle
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Im pretty certain they didnt in hc geae

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Mby the super meta comps

wanton sierra
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i cannot prove it... but damage wise we can handle it, most class can, the real problem is tool kit and get invited xDD

slow saddle
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Couldnt find above 16

wanton sierra
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sorry my english sucks!

slow saddle
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Week 3

wanton sierra
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oh damn, i thought it was more... how long takes the entire season, at what point we can consider "early season"

slow saddle
wanton sierra
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i think the world raid race was rollin on

dim basalt
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Nah they werent pushing that high

slow saddle
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One month into season

dim basalt
#

Yeah thats like all 14s

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Maybe a few 15s

slow saddle
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Yea

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It takes time for the m+ guys to learn pulls

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Practice and gear

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  • find meta comps
wanton sierra
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sorry guys, i thought it was more time behind, im not playin by a month i might got lost track of time, in my head it was early season, i was playin an some friend said "oh damn, they are doing 18s already"

spiral coral
latent moss
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3.7k is

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rn

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around there

spiral coral
#

Ah

slow saddle
#

22nd of may

spiral coral
#

Loool ohhh

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That makes sense

latent moss
#

a lot of people doing high keys

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dont even push

wanton sierra
#

what score did you got this season? i dont think i can push it anymore

latent moss
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until raid is over

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and shit

spiral coral
#

I saw a 30 posted yesterday

wanton sierra
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10%gang xD

spiral coral
#

No way I’m getting title Jesus

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Actually, I could. But, people I were playing with/pushing with stopped around 3500 where I am

slow saddle
#

Im at 1% horde

spiral coral
#

Same:)

slow saddle
#

I think

spiral coral
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Horde sucks

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Apparently

slow saddle
#

2 16s rest 15s

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Worse m+ races

dim basalt
#

I havent pushed since like 2 weeks before boost patch and Im sitting on 3.3

spiral coral
#

17 was my ceiling

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I’m bad

wanton sierra
slow saddle
#

Pug key is rough

wanton sierra
#

pug life is tuff!!

slow saddle
#

Like i havent had the time

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So goin slowly

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The ppl i encounter in my bracket are worwe

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Esp meta classes

latent moss
#

type shit

spiral coral
#

Oh yeah

latent moss
#
  • alliance races just better in general
spiral coral
#

And dwarf

wanton sierra
#

dwarf is the way

spiral coral
#

Orc is my fav

plain latch
#

give earthen the dwarf racial and that gets bumped up 100

spiral coral
#

Always will be from Warcraft Orcs and Humans days

wanton sierra
#

i like the tauren height, but stoneform is way too powerfull

latent moss
#

i hate tauren

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been one for a full xpac

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despair to play

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in dungeons with fixed height

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camera tweaking perma

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cause i play max zoomed out usually

spiral coral
#

Max cam?

latent moss
#

that got patched like

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end of sl

spiral coral
#

The add on?

latent moss
#

the one that lets u zoom out more

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ye

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and the cvar

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idk tbh

wanton sierra
#

died on 54 as tauren, taurengarb on hc lol.... fuck those gorilas from ungoro crater... i go again and got 60 on undead warrior, quite nice to play undead

latent moss
#

i heard they fixed some camera issues

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in tww

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not sure + the race is ugly anyway

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nothing fits

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and animations are shit

spiral coral
#

Helmets on Tauren deadge

latent moss
#

unless u are female tauren

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speaking of mogs idk why are warrior sets so bulky

spiral coral
#

Tbh I really like my high mountain Tauren

latent moss
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when warriors lore wise arent fully covered

spiral coral
#

But, the racial is stupid and the OG Tauren one is better

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It’s a rouge clueless

spiral coral
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I really wish for newer - older style shit

latent moss
#

muscle is my armor type shit

spiral coral
#

Yee

slow saddle
#

Id wish they just choice

spiral coral
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But no. We get a set with glowly dick tassels

wanton sierra
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i like to wear one sided shoulder, i like to think that to spin big sword, the grip hand and arm should be clean so you can do the swing xD i know its way too RP

spiral coral
#

Nah you aren’t the only one

latent moss
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one sided shoulder is peak

spiral coral
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When I switch to arms, I gotta have one big shoulder. When I’m fury, both big

wanton sierra
#

yes i loved when they added that feature on mogs

fresh spire
#

https://eu.forums.blizzard.com/en/wow/t/feedback-arms-warrior-juggernaut/581131 Jug yap, Frozen bozo will move the post over to NA for me for Na chads to yap

World of Warcraft Forums

Hello, Fishy here. Arms Apl maintainer alongside Walhe Firstly I would like to ask everyone who comments in this thread to use this as a means to vent frustrations mainly at juggernaut and not the overall state of arms. Thread is made as a means to try draw attention to juggernaut in hopes we can try get it fixed before S3 launch even if just a...

spiral coral
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I played a dungeon the other day with two Vulperas, a gnome and a mecha gnome and I’m an orc. Shit looked bizarre running around with them.

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Mechagnome mages are fucking cool

wanton sierra
spiral coral
fresh spire
#

Someone is going to copy paste it on to NA for me 🙂 you can read it there when they done

quasi torrent
slow saddle
#

I did wonder if i should try gnoam, but small races can get stuck🤣

spiral coral
#

Dude

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I never played Vulpera again after getting stuck on the wall in floodgate

wanton sierra
#

krisp profile is hidden ^^ ❤️

spiral coral
#

Or even the boxes in cinderbrew

slow saddle
#

Never vulp

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But orignal gnoam

fresh spire
#

uhhhhhhh

slow saddle
#

For the yells🤣

spiral coral
#

My prot is a Vulpera

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Not that bad of a tanking class actually

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Also this event with a Vulpera is 10/10

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Just set a hearth outside of raids/dungeons

wanton sierra
#

vulpera do an lil mortal spin when jump that is fun, but armor wont fix proper

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fit*

spiral coral
#

Actually there’s some really cool mogs you can do with Vulpera lol

wanton sierra
#

let me show my mog

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behold

spiral coral
#

So cute

wanton sierra
#

ok boots are off i cant log on now xD

spiral coral
#

Huffing that beard 😂

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Can the man’s breathe?

wanton sierra
#

lol keks

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i hate when helms hide the beard

spiral coral
#

Actually laughing imagining him trying to talk and it just sounds like muffled dwarf speak

minor gust
#
World of Warcraft Forums

Posting from EU forums for more potential traction. Hello, Fishy here. Arms Apl maintainer alongside Walhe Firstly I would like to ask everyone who comments in this thread to use this as a means to vent frustrations mainly at juggernaut and not the overall state of arms. Thread is made as a means to try draw attention to juggernaut in hopes we...

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NA version for the NA bros

slow saddle
#

So they will never do this

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🥲

wanton sierra
minor gust
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its so you can interact with it

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like like and comment

wanton sierra
#

we need to have hope!! they shall attend us

spiral coral
fresh spire
#

5 seconds thats all i need

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when she asks for 20 seconds but your capping out at 15

minor gust
wanton sierra
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liked!

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man i heard that there was or is an GM that is warrior, where is that guy

fresh spire
#

playing frost dk clearly

minor gust
#

make sure to comment on the forum post

fresh spire
minor gust
#

as that what keeps it pushing to the top

wanton sierra
slow saddle
#

Liked and commented

fresh spire
#

the website doesn't allow links or i would have posted warrior at the bottom

candid pecan
#

why is the sim difference between arms and fury 531k???

fresh spire
#

Fury didnt have a set bonus for 2 tiers

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now has a 20% one

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expected

latent moss
#

i wanna add some yapping

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in comments

spiral coral
#

531

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Is insane

fresh spire
#

we are still likely to get some ST tuning of some sort

candid pecan
#

anything can happen, boomie got fixed

fresh spire
#

boomkin good again?

spiral coral
candid pecan
#

no, its middle of the pack I guess so not a lot of ppl play it after the nerfs

fresh spire
#

i mean more as it seemed disgustinly strong in keys and raid, then got shot seemily damn hard

spiral coral
#

That spec is so weird

fresh spire
#

i think the concept of boomkin is nice, just hate the whole 2 buttons empower the other

latent moss
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gonna yap now

fresh spire
#

deadge just lemme cast wrath bruh

minor gust
minor gust
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because that would be a solution to just have us play col in raid and jugg is gone 🙂

candid pecan
fresh spire
#

Buffing bleeds is the best way to buff slayer slightly while heavily bumping colossus rn

minor gust
#

just cant buff bleeds through a tier set or else you get nerfs because of prot

fresh spire
#

dont think arterial can get buffed much more with tier bonus around as it would fully kill one vs many

candid pecan
fresh spire
#

be easier if wounds/rend/roar all got like 50% more damage 😄

candid pecan
#

miss me with prot nerfing dps spec shit

fresh spire
#

fury got op nerfed for slayer

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as fuck fury

minor gust
#

my hope for the warrior rework is we still go for the scrap bleeds angle man

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at least remove one of them we dont need 2 different fuckin bleeds

fresh spire
#

if they rework our mastery deep wounds might just die so

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who knows

minor gust
#

just one of them at a minimum needs to go pref honestly DW

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because I hate the fact that shit needs to be applied for u to do dmg

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makes WW fob build awkward because essentially your only way of applying DW is WB and BS

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give opportunity strikes back and give rage management with an off gcd dump again

unreal mountain
#

bring back Gladiator and Mortal Combo 😉

fresh spire
#

So many older versions of warrior with way more enjoyment to them

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panda/Legion

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just take a few pages on why they felt good and rebuild

minor gust
#

Furys gameplay is bis due to the satisfying nature of building rage bar and spending rage bar

fresh spire
#

(until you press raging blow 4 times in a row)

minor gust
fresh spire
#

new sims for rb look interesting

minor gust
#

we dont talk about that

fresh spire
#

BT basically died

minor gust
#

damn even after the slayer tier nerf

fresh spire
#

where bt go

minor gust
#

holy less than melee

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gg

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remove button off bars thats wild

jade ember
#

Cloak only 1.5% hmm

fresh spire
#

execute is way more op now though compared to before

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worth pressing moment

minor gust
# fresh spire

wait why even bother with gushing wound ik fury is fucked for talents but no shot that talent is worth

fresh spire
#

nothing better

minor gust
#

disgusting

dim basalt
minor gust
#

this whole class is disgusting

fresh spire
#

fury tree is in a worse spot than arms

shadow ibex
fresh spire
#

oh yeh

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Roar is like lowest prio on apl or something stupid

minor gust
#

TR bad on ST is fine warrior just needs a real ST talent in the class tree

jade ember
#

Oh right and that's 1.5% with the boots, too, huh

fresh spire
#

why press roar when rb does more damage than it

shadow ibex
#

Tr replaces free ww global

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Lmao

#

90 seconds btw

fresh spire
#

slam*

shadow ibex
#

Oh yea fury has to bind that

minor gust
#

Poor onslaught for fury man

#

that shit was the biggest disgrace for fury this expansion

#

had its time in DF just to get gutted out of UF for no reason and have none to very lil compensation buff or any change to help it interact with furys kit

minor gust
# fresh spire

its funny because it feels like fury must always have a dead abillity

#

it was executes spot now its BTs

fresh spire
#

think roar is in an even worse spot

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fact it cast 2 in 5 mins

minor gust
#

not like roar is any better for arms either but atleast you press it I guess

candid pecan
fresh spire
#

use roar during the circle on rik

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insane tech

minor gust
#

or get stunned for funsies

wary raft
#

bladestorm the stun so no stun and no downtime

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unless it stuns thru then gg

minor gust
#

Ethical bladestorm usage on Rik

coarse nova
#

give it to me straight how are things looking for arms

#

i wanna bang

minor gust
#

mid

slow saddle
#

Lower than mid no?

coarse nova
#

thats good then we get buffed alot before raid, right?

minor gust
#

most likely

coarse nova
#

ez

minor gust
#

a lot tho prob not but will likely see some aura buffs

coarse nova
#

is arms still leaning towards crit/haste you think

minor gust
#

no such thing just sim arms likes all stats and you will continue to want them all mostly crit haste mastery, vers is whatever

coarse nova
minor gust
#

something something 40/40/40/10

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@teal fossil

dim basalt
#

big shaq my homie

slow saddle
#

U will prog as fury and hate it

minor gust
#

hate it lmao

#

getting a refreshing break from jugg is gonna be great and slurry owns even with the cursed no BT usage

slow saddle
#

U know

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Just

#

Comment on crispis post

minor gust
#

im excited for some fury gameplay next tier

slow saddle
#

And we might get somethin

wanton sierra
#

why yall want to jug get fixxed? for slayer?

minor gust
#

Im NA which is why I made the NA version for ppl to comment on

slow saddle
#

Ok😆

minor gust
#

so it will fall off due to rng

#

which feels awful

slow saddle
minor gust
#

especially when you drop stacks just before execute phase

#

which is an insane tilter

slow saddle
#

My first and only bandit kill ...

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13 stacks 36%

#

Fuuuuuuucl

dim basalt
#

I dont think the wa part is annoying at all

minor gust
slow saddle
#

Well its bad gameplay

minor gust
#

I dont mind the WA part either but I do agree is bad gameplay and prob shouldnt exist

#

I should just see SD proc and press it

slow saddle
#

100%

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Sd should be dopamine hit

minor gust
#

yee

#

arms have lacked satisfying procs for awhile and has really felt it this expansion

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it had its moment in DF with S3 tier set made the procs feel a bit better especially in aoe

rain fiber
#

they could just make SD not give AJ stacks and only make it work from 35% onwards, plus get some extra % damage as compensation

teal fossil
slow saddle
minor gust
#

EB and BL procs are ok you really only care if you get long stream of procs like when you have SS up with EB and get 5-6 procs in a row

wanton sierra
#

you mean the tc proc? was fun indeed

minor gust
#

arms really needs the ooomph proc it used to have with CS resets on tactician

slow saddle
#

For eb and bl to fuck.. im afraid fatality has to be relavant

minor gust
wanton sierra
#

never liked fatality

minor gust
#

fatality was whatever until the change in TWW

#

now I hate that shit with a passion

#

hurrr durrr did your fatality line up with cds no ok go fuck yourself

wanton sierra
#

its sad to see it on the last noddle possible on the talent tree

slow saddle
#

I mean hear me out.what if at sub 30. U could pop it when u wanted 2...

slow saddle
#

Or let it not affected by shit

minor gust
#

NOWAY

slow saddle
#

Like either or

wanton sierra
#

fatality button? it would be nice

slow saddle
#

Give me control or make it passive

#

Kindda like juggernaut issur

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Lack of control

minor gust
#

pretty much rng has its place in the kit just not there

olive nest
#

Imagine if MS resets were rage free

minor gust
#

wouldnt really change anything

#

rage already isnt real

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it would help colossus in aoe during good reset streaks but thats it really

slow saddle
#

But atm it feels more bad when u fail

minor gust
slow saddle
#

Exactly

minor gust
#

right like you always feel good when you see your procs thats rng

slow saddle
#

Like reap procs when u bladestorm

minor gust
#

if the dmg is balanced well it will bring more good gameplay than bad

slow saddle
#

Tbh reap with cleave

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Is fun in keys

minor gust
#

obviously if reap is all your dmg it would feel bad when you dont proc well

slow saddle
#

Yeye

minor gust
#

also fatality could be so much cooler if there was a super obvious animation/sound effect when it goes off and having it built into the game for the Big dmg number displaced in a different color or something. like shit should make you kinda excited throughout the fight to see how many stacks your getting to see if your gonna have a big fatality as you eagerly await the moment to chunk the boss

fresh spire
#

50 cal counter strike when it goes off

minor gust
#

seriously

#

as far as I know theres no sound or animation that goess off when you pop fatality

#

if theres is that should tell you how bad it is that I havent noticed

hollow wave
#

Why blizzard is not deleting juggernaut?

forest dove
#

A lot of raid talk in general, but how’s arms doing in keys? Same story?

plain latch
#

other than soft cap i thought we did okay

fresh spire
#

Colossus has a little varity between more bleed sided or cleave sided

#

Think its pretty ok, not worst not best

#

defo not meta

#

average warrior key tier

#

Thane for fury looks pretty solid aswell, but same story

shadow ibex
#

Rb rb rb rb rb rb rb rb rb

#

Either way fucked

clever stream
#

Lot more bloodthirst this time right, but yeah pretty boring

shadow ibex
#

Deal with cancerass jugg or rb rb rb rb rv

smoky kayak
#

tbf Fury still uses occasional BT when RB charges run out (which does happen), but yeah it's not great

minor gust
slow saddle
minor gust
#

sound design team did wonders with TB but failed so hard with demolish

wanton sierra
sour forge
latent moss
#

i press bt like 4 times more or something

#

in a key

#

its so peak

spring ruin
#

Yes, its called get rid of juggernaut

#

dumb, boring ability

grave mulch
#

bring condemn back

gusty nymph
ornate oxide
#

Hey in execute phase has execute a higher prio than Mortal Strike ?

river ridge
#

Yes until Two stacks of EP as Slayer, but if you're going Execute > Execute > Some GCD > MS it'll always stay on CD.

#

If you're playing Colossus (M+), than Execute just replaces slam in your rotation

ornate oxide
spiral coral
#

my alts got all these filled vaults and my arms just chilling not doing shit and nothing in the vault danderson

#

poor guy

#

how are people getting 685

#

Rounding up?

bleak dawn
#

getting lucky in vault and/or they do mythic raid

old urchin
sudden fox
#

What are people recrafting cape embelish to if they have it? If anything

solar lark
#

is there a good way to think about arms raid CDs other than just usually just sending whatever comes up whenever it comes up? you look at lorrgs and the CDR puts shit all over the place, it kind of looks like people just send whatevery they have most of the time

#

as in avatar, smash and bladestorm

minor gust
#

CDR abillities on CD

turbid plinth
slow saddle
#

Or feet i guess short term

sudden fox
#

Gunna have to be feet since we have delve belt

thick kelp
#

you have feet that boost your cloak in the raid

#

so its a very short term craft

slow saddle
#

I got feet and belt rst

#

But lets be honest

#

My luck im crafting weap

#

Acsension rocks for raid

#

Prog

jade ember
#

Yeah figuring out embells next season is prolly gonna be more complicated than I want.

vast glacier
#

Arms better than Fury next Patch ?

thick kelp
#

no

vast glacier
#

Why ?

minor gust
#

because number smaller

thick kelp
#

If you get a mythic weapon you can instead craft a HC wrist with duskthread and a tier offpiece with mythic crest ex. Chest with duskthread

#

And if you complete a full vault on the week of Aug5th you will have a socket/delve item for week1 of season which means you could craft a mythic helmet with dusk and put a socket into it

jade ember
#

I don't mythic raid so crafting a tier piece kinda early is always a little spooky but ye

thick kelp
#

well for an early tier you only need aotc/ksm + 2 pieces of tier from any difficulty

slow saddle
#

New tier is rly strong obtain 4p and craft 2hander week 3 if u didnt get in vault is my strat

thin fulcrum
#

have french player for help play arms ? i always play fury and really difficult for me thx ✌️✌️

spiral coral
#

The French arms is same as the English arms I promise

thin fulcrum
#

for train and speak voc

thick kelp
#

No trains in arms spec

thin fulcrum
#

don't understand arms 🤣

#

if anyone would like to help me learn it will be nice i use translate for speak

hollow plover
#

the wowhead guide is pretty good

#

thats all u need sago

fresh spire
spiral coral
slow saddle
#

Arms simmin was it 650k behind top sim?🤣

lucid thicket
#

Everyone forgets all of the pve andies trying to act like they can play the fucking game in a bgb or shuffle

thick kelp
#

acting like pvp is hard when you can get 1600 in a 3h shuffle session with 0 prior pvp experience

untold trench
#

acting like PvE is hard, when you can get 3k blind, armless and without half a brain

lucid thicket
#

^

thick kelp
#

True you got 3k after all

void bay
#

im in the top 100 in PvP, of the 50 people that bother with it.

spiral coral
lucid thicket
#

PvE is literally just "does your most 🐒 Raider understand the fight"

untold trench
slow saddle
#

thing is u cannot get 3k rating in pve

#

if entire grp are monkeys

jade ember
#

PvE difficulty is its own topic but I definitely agree that it's easy to hit 3k, especially if you're a dps, especially if you have at least one person to carry.

#

I seen some horrible stuff in weekly 12s.

slow saddle
#

i mean the whole point is u can also be hard carried in pvp

#

but u cannot make an RBG grp with only bad ppl and succed

jade ember
#

I don't know enough about pvp tbh. Haven't taken it seriously in a long time.

slow saddle
#

or a 3v3 ofc

olive nest
#

Surely arms buffs today

slow saddle
#

my point is just that pvp and pve as to how hard shit is

#

We dont need buffs

#

we only like 700k ST behind the best specs

#

thats nothing ^^

olive nest
#

700k behind fury

#

Criminal

slow saddle
#

wasnt it 500k behind fury

#

750k behind lock

thick kelp
#

its ok guys keep spreading propaganda

#

the gap widens everytime someone mentions it

olive nest
#

Just be like warlocks

#

Surely will get buffs

woven wasp
lament elbow
#

2 mil behind warlock and hunter

jade ember
#

It's alright brothers 50% aura buff today trust

slow saddle
thick kelp
#

dk starts with a 6

dim basalt
#

Post dk nerf? lol

random ridge
#

Mop classic arms have better design than retail arms

thick kelp
#

you forgot about the 2nd spec they have

slow saddle
#

Y uh dk pops

fresh spire
#

Last time I checked it was 800k (colossus main)

slow saddle
#

Just forgotten coz its raid

dim basalt
spring ruin
#

def more utility for MOP, was just on it the other day. Live warrior gutted as hell

fresh spire
#

Frost took the fire so unholy could be strong on prog again

dim basalt
#

Crazy

thick kelp
tough tangle
#

Another tier coming up another tier fury gets to shine

#

Arms pls

slow saddle
#

Tbh fury can have thisntier

random ridge
thick kelp
#

did we tho

dim basalt
#

We cleared this tier on one boss

thick kelp
#

2

#

Caudlron and Mug

dim basalt
#

Forgot about the irrelevant boss mb

devout pewter
#

Are there any predictions on what we'll craft in season 3 since cloak is out of the picture?

Maybe go back to weapon + wrist? Or is there anything new?

thick kelp
#

Wrist + belt is craft in bis gear

#

with duskthreads

devout pewter
#

So the threads will still be better, alright then 😄

dim basalt
#

No reason for that to change because theyre literally not changing either

devout pewter
#

Wasn't sadly keeping up with everything

dim basalt
#

Blizz doesnt care about embellishments anymore sadge

spiral coral
#

The first big pull in cinderbrew LETSGOOO

spring ruin
#

yup

slow saddle
inland drift
#

wish they'd give us a talent tree to increase the cap like MM hunter got :<

slow saddle
#

I just want arms to win on st dps fights

#

Ovet fury

#

😆

nimble girder
#

how accurate are server downtimes

#

so will it be up in 30 most likely?

olive nest
#

Boring ole reset day it’s usually faster than the posted time

#

We’re nearing a patch so might be the full time or longer depending on what they’re changing on the backend

shadow ibex
#

Surely we appear in notes this week wicked

spare steppe
weak rain
#

I kinda don't want to play fury for prog, pls buff arms

spiral coral
#

Might turn into two warrior

deft yew
civic path
#

so, since wwe got a new cloak for next season, best embelishment aside wrists ?

fresh spire
#

Blizzard nerfing arms and fury

hexed snow
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How we doin boys, all good this summer?

fresh spire
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Belt

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As we will end up dropping the new delve one

shadow ibex
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Fury tier #3 sadge

hexed snow
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Not sure if going arms or fury next tier

regal socket
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anyone know the weapon?

lusty plinth
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1H From Hellfire Citadel Heroic.

regal socket
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oo ty

lusty plinth
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However I do NOT know how he got them on his back.

regal socket
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wish we had a dagger like this

boreal quartz
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Sheathing is random