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I think only q is if it's abilities or aura
Aura increase tr dam 
Abilities leave it even more in the dust
Might do fury with OF tonight on gally reclear try to steal as much add pad as possible
MS buffed by 20% nothing else

I mean ms buff
Our st on ptr leaves lot to be desired
For both slayer and col
Yea talking about raid
Ye but lets be honest, then col also suck st m+
Buff warrior
Imagine an enh main being happy about pre-stacking being removed and then seeing this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ys1-UKWzNfI
if anyone needs context, two extra tempests gives 21% more damage in the first pull, along with two extra uses of your biggest spender. Has been very mandatory and annoying to do for the entire expansion.
I stream on https://www.twitch.tv/zorthas
Soulbinder mythic the best public arms was about 5.4m*
YouTube putting ads in Discord embeds is going to turn me into the Punisher
While Hunter was doing about 7.9m*
fucking partyfish
Hunter is still stuoid
thats why i hate trinkets
Just don't prestack if you don't want it

WoW players are so frustrating lol
They have to do things but they don't want to
I hate that
They'll do anything for a small boost in dps
ANYTHING
I wish it wasn't all about maximizing anything but it is how it is
all there is to do wcd
Y have link ?
If game so easy why Echo not oneshot boss?
Checkmate
Soulbinder stats are also ultra fake
Way too little HP on adds to actually do dam if your raid is not sitting on buttons
During testing
That fight will see some serious buffs going into live
Ferfnury
echo bad wcyd
So true Aagard
You're so elitist since re-joining the WR3 Heroic Gally guild!!!!
did you stream ptr @swift crown
And for the latter half of the last mythic testing I was playing MW yea
F
I played Warrior for every other heroic/mythic test
I played Evoker in normal
Why what up
i just want ptr warrior footage that isnt spaceship ui
although your cursor WA is cursed
I'm thinking I'll remove it
There's no boss that's Tindral level bad this raid
And tbf as long as I play Warrior
My cursor doesn't float the same way
Ye I’m not really an “insider” just lurk for whatever info I can find because it’s fun to speculate
i am not missing my cursor
https://www.twitch.tv/schmidigames/v/2508878455?sr=a this is the first mythic testing I think, ignore the uhh
Less than optimal deaths on Plexus and Loomithar
Woee!! That’s sick
If you want I can send you some PoVs of Forgeguy
hit me
Do it
Once i'm home
Kind of niche but I noticed only tauren use the old animation for mortal strike?
Every other race uses the new generic twirl/swing instead of 2hspecial.
Good thing tauren is a good race next tier
How? WA?
nah 2 separate addons - cursormod and cursortrail
After ColSmash what do you cast in this situation? MS?
ms?
Mortal Strike?
Yes. It was up in this situation
its op
it would be execute here
actually nvm
i thought that was your sudden death tracker
ignore me
I have the two stacks... Yeah all good
So overpower with opertunist, but mortal without?
yes
Cool thanks yall
@stable fiber i cranked yday on oab on my dk
that boss is fun on DK
but miserable on warrior
i should not have potted on pull when we didnt lust
be me doing better on my alt than my main

wtf ur full bis now
my gear is so bad ngl
i legit begged for the jastors because I lost the roll
As Colossus in M+ - When my MS resets itself AND OP procs what has higher prio - OP or MS?
MS
MS gotta get them Col Might stax
And in Execute phase?
Execute phase doesnt change anything
You just press exe instead of slam if necessary
As in, basically never
So always 2x exe, 1 MS, 2x exe?
Ahh okay
⚰️
is that enough?
those arms buff are a joke lmao
🤷♂️
fury will be the m+ spec again
yeah i watch him too, thats clearly a joke, fury needs to get uncapped
and those arms buffs , like wtf, they are completely useless after the nerfs
I can die happy now.....

same BS buff for fury and arms but arms still sitting there for 6 seconds
It’s actually so cringe to read
I’d rather have nothing and a giant text wall the day before launch
appearently ret ST was ass
Thankfully they used some brainpower and reverted mystic touch
and in ptr ?
its because warrior is last on the tuning post... so by the time they reach warrior they just slap some random buffs on there for 0.5% dmg increase 
why is it always ONE A4 paper of changes for warlock
everytime

Why exactly does arcane keep getting buffs?
Crit in the trenches making sure we get buffs you love to see it
„Major class tuning changes!“
Arms: 15% bladestorm dmg 
11.2 ret was actually dead in the water like took out back shot in the head 5 times and made to look like it hung itself.
they got a big nerf lol
The 4 set
mostly looks like tuning was aoe focused, they have patched colossus tier bonus bug now

guess they think colossus arms is in a good spot aoe wise
I mean Colossus is even after the nerfs
But my guess there's prob 2 more rounds of tuning before release so back to waiting for more

How doomer should i be for the new patch?
It’ll be fine
Ask again in 2 weeks but for right now everything is mid
Pixels
Dk bad rng surely
there's no rng anymore
they removed that
the reaper's mark thing
😠
lmao
not telling us the full story
that's the joke lol
3 pulls in
oh, I see
The other guys held damage until Crit killed all the shitter mobs with his newly buffed Bladestorm

but how am i supposed to panic about tuning halfway through PTR if people don't post random details from Crit's stream
The classic no context Details screenshot

surely arms tuning after fury
always love how, whenever slayer or bladestorm gets buffed by a small amount, and then ppl ask the following questions:
- are we playing bladestorm as colossus?
- is slayer arms better than colossus in m+ ?
- is slayer fury better than thane in m+?

Ok you say that
But remember ravager slarms
That makes even less sense
It's got asked all the time back in S1 with the bladestorm buffs
I mean I don't but it makes more sense than ravager slayer
You kinda wanna keep spamming shit as colossus while ravager goes on though
more MS hits
more CM stacks
etc
At least Ravager Slayer kinda happened on ST, or at least I saw Crit try it once
The upside of ravager slayer was the execute dmg so was worth on the two bosses you lusted in execute aka mug and OAB
But then they buffed BS and ravager was gone

respect, dudes a god amongst men
I just love how you can barely see the icons in his overall window to the right and he's 3rd there 
It was a hypothetical thing due to a couple bugs, but very short lived
Yeah that makes sense I remember it being something like that
Technically you could use it for more execute at the cost of overall damage, but that’s not really a good trade in most cases
what were the bugs
are warriors dmg on PTR basically the baseline goal for all classes to be at in ST/AoE with the latest nerfs to other specs?
some simc bug
Yeah clearly just needs more aura buffs





arms

Iam happier with the reverted monk's mystic touch than the warrior buffs
im still coping this was an aoe tuning pass for us and a st one is due to come after next few days of testing now monk buff reverted 

I mean reasitically theres more tuning passes to come
also just looking at what was actually changed makes me think its not our tuning pass mainly as thane still needs a small st up lift along side a tier adjustment and colossus needs a rebuff for the 5% they nuked off this week basically killing its raid chances unless we get a solid fight where the cooldowns just line good
im glad regardless to see they finally touched improved whirlwind. maybe now they can see its still pretty average and start unraveling the hard cap
monk buff revert insane GG
its sooo goood
im so happy
didnt expect them to go back
and realize its not a good change
the uproar apparently was pretty firey from what ive been told 😄
There’s more tuning for sure
Last time there was a tuning pass like 3 days before raid week lol
I wouldn’t worry too much
copious amount of copium 
It’s not copium

Please blizzard, fix Ignore Pain for arms
Please blizz, fix arms
is there a known % increase of dps augment runes provide? do people here use them?
Share the cherries!
no known %, you can sim yourself using and not using them and compare. i personally don't use them unless there's a perma rune
looks about .2 mil for me
200k??? absolutely no shot
sorry 150. 16.83 down to 16.67 patchwerk 2 mn 10 target
what does arms sim for on the ptr in bis gear
trying to see how it compares to the likes of arcane at the high end, and also aff lock on the low end
Hi guysss
I just got my alt to 80, best way to get gear right now?
would be a Fishy Walhe Archi question since usual sim spreadsheet hasnt been touched yet
buy valorboxes that give 636 gear(atleast i think it's 636) get delve belt, get siren isle ring, do timewalking for weekly quest, spam lfr for dinars then spend said dinars. go tier 11 delves for gilded 3x(prot for ez mode) and then finally spam m+
ofcourse if you have friends/guildies that can boost you in keys do that
Is blizzard really not going to give arms any other buffs?
If it receives nothing else, isn't it pretty much dead?
thanks
just making sure we arent aff lock bad
not sure if they are sandbagging though
Aff is just bad
that's not where you get the quest
the belt quest comes from him at his spot in Dornologal in front of Brann
do i need to do this?
😦
Might need to talk to what's his face to skip the campaign if you havent


Ret got buffed

Fury got a tiny buff
So thane must be better than col now?, so pure fury tier?
Also wait monk buff nerfed

Not rly
Lowkey is
But when its also better in raid
Dreadnaught buffed by 1000%
Back to dragonflight
op+dn top of breakdown every moment
I mean i loved dreadnaught being bis in st
Meant in anyn2ntarget cleave we got more dmg
On our st as well
100000000000000%
1 gorillion%
Dreadnaught is buffed on Savathun's Throne World @sacred zodiac
Bring back test of might + ip
Should we be using thunderclap to apply rend in solos? Just coming back to warrior after a long break
Hell nah
It's a small gain in St to rend over tc. But if you don't want to have 2 keybinds just clap
It feels cooler to TC anyway, and that's what matters

If you need me I'll be there fuck Kepler tho
dang what you got against laws of orbital motion bro
you need to do the campaign if you want to even be able to do that
Holy shit is that real schmidi
Holy boomba
I don't understand why they would rather change the bank first than change a little bit of the Warriors.
🤣
always okay
depends. if phys comp is meta then no
Nevermind I'll stick to the pure degen hours of stormbringer lmao
Is it lookin that way?
idk, nerfs happened yesterday so we will see
If not id rather see how many pugs kick me for trying to play my class optimally
What was the phys meta comp ?
triple outlaw in bfa 
Wouldn’t bank on either warr spec being meta in keys next season
May be time to go play classic mop arms
Can someone explain me why when i try to SIM the different flask all of them will gave me lower dps ...
wtf is pricing
The default one in the sim is set as alch chaos
so its comparing alch chaos vs all those other tempered flasks
which are worse
Wait this is the wrong discord
This is the warrior one, not warlock
Im not a warlock player
How to compare no flask vs all the different flask ?

wait my question is actually stupid it confirm that alchemical chaos is better than the other nevermind
thanksss
=)
Hello, My name is Phil and I play Brewmaster. I'm doing this thing where I go to class discord to try to meet people because pugging is awful.
If you are 3k-3200 io and want to build a team for next season please message me. I typically play 8-12 MST.
8 in the morning for keys is diabolical
well he's a King. it's not like he needs to work or anything
Damn, must be nice 🥲
anyone that tested ptr, is the sudden death procs enough to maintain jugg stacks?
throughout the fight
15% on Bladestorm ? NIice. Maybe one day it will do some damage
almost
yeah i like that, good ty
Dont like it
We are then tuned round havin it up
As in fuck u if it drops
Or an encounter with downtime
@bleak dawn I work for the government I have plenty of time. Seems like you are on the same discord at the same time calling me out wild.
i think you are taking my joke a little too seriously
if you want to make new friends it's important to give people the benefit of the doubt and assume that they have positive intentions by default
I'm a veteran this is the most I've ever done to make new friends in my life. This is me trying 🤣
yeah it's not easy as an adult 
Well, in my personal life I don't need friends. In wow to accomplish my goals I do. I didn't think it would be this hard to get 4 deranged fucks to do keys with, but it's been a struggle
very sad way to think about friends
Should join “MythicPlusFriends”
Large community centered around mythic plus and finding people to play with around your bracket
This is probably going to be too dark for 8am but if my friends would stop killing themselves maybe I would have a few
GG
I've tried that. That's why I'm trying the specific class discord now. I've been cursed with a type A brain. Something doesn't work try something else
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First time Arms meta
lmao
I don't have time to watch all that, how does he do it?
he says in the video that he "got it fixed before posting" but isnt the fact that we can extend the duration of sweeping strikes part of the class? it just shouldnt go past 25 minutes lol
hope they just fixed the prolonged duration from proving grounds rather than just normally extending it
he basically just goes into proving grounds and spam resets talents while spamming avatar/sweeping to get it up to 25 minutes, stacks rage for 25 minutes then talents into the big cleave after sweeping once hes out of proving grounds and gets a big 30 mil cleave
oh Collateral Damage?
ya i forgor
lmao
he hits underpin for 230 mil at one point lol
iirc you can still get minutes of die by the sword from Torghast and take it somewhere. Though that doesn't do damage.
Is the bladestorm buff enough to use over ravager?
as colossus? no
The buff is cute but not worth mentionning
Arms bladestorm still suffer for his long ass channeling
Really just maintenance buff like when they used to buff fatality
Maybe some real tuning will happen with heroic week or after
Or 3 month after tier is over
🔮 ppawws saggy crystal ball 🔮
Best bet is 3 month after tier is over
Lol opposite here
Ravager is sweet. Esp in execute phase
Bladestorn feels very fury
In arms i wanna empower my ms strikes, using bladestorm makes no sense
It's funny how many games seem to have that problem, where a spell or ability that stops your normal rotation is seen as unfavorable sometimes. There's an ultimate like that in Hades II that I avoid like the plague for that exact reason, why do something that's weaker than using my regular abilities?
Solution is to make BS stronger than your regular abilities, which I suppose takes Slayer to do.
Doesnt help
Tbh slayer does that
Good old days of Fury BSs that ticked through in like 1.4s.
Where as rav feels good in st
It’s my damage and I want it now!!
Not with Unhinged tbh
Back then the unstoppable juggernaut part was a big part of BS's flavor
Tbh back then BS was the only real aoe CD we had
Now we have more
The only way fury would do burst aoe in mop was BS
That’s why it owned on aoe
Still weird
Gameplay wisw
Not reason why we push it
I do really miss BS as a big AOE cool, that's definitely when it feels the best to press
I just want collosus to be the best raid choice
Demolish and BS hit very different dopamine receptors tho
But if we had spear every 45 sec
Spinning and doing infinite damage is just peak warrior AOE
Demolishing enemies is more my style
Tbh i want ancient aftershocl back
Wb aa - demo - fuuuxk all the mobs
AA was sick
Yeah I was Fae almost the entire xpac even after they made switching a thing
AA is sick until tanks pull it out
Counter point it's blue and sparkly and pretty
Any decent tank would never pull em out
Also holy god I miss the Fae blink so bad
Haha yes
Could say that about spear but everyone complained
Fae was awesome borrowed power
U couldnt pull out of speae wdym?
Remember stand in spear
Thats differenr
Until they changed it
Mobs where grounded to spear
So wasnt. Mobs movibg as mucj as ground effects
Fuckin u
I've been an Engineer since WotLK and not having rocket boosts anymore since belt is scuffed, no Fae blink, no multiple leaps, no nothing right now got me weak af.
My warrior might be my least favorite toon to farm old content on rn just because it's so much walking
Outlaw is cracked
Yeah druid is really nice because Dash resets every time you kill a boss
I never really thought of doing Outlaw I was just staying Assa on my rogue but I'll switch next time
I still have a couple of mounts left to farm this week
what is happening
BM hunter is amazing for it... You got 30% out of combat speed boost
Thank god I was having a stroke looking at that
Come to think of it DK is pretty good for farming because the Rider horse is so nutty. You can have 2 Rider horses and a Wraith Walk.
Not really because that’s all you have
Outlaw has 1 m sprint, 20% speed during stealth, 4 charges of grappling hook
Yeah but I feel like the horseys can be up a really high amount of the time idk
Druid is bis for farming since dreamwalk, can get around world faster
Well for me that's probably my warrior but that's because he's my Engineer
Between wormholes, M+ portals, and random stuff like Cloak of Coord it's usually enough
Guys should I go see Superman tonight
Why not
Done
Movie was pretty mid
It can't be worse than Man of Steel
Too many attempts at marvel style humour that just kinda fizzled
Its phenominal for a DC Live action, i'll give it that lol
But then again their recent live actions grabbed a fucking shovel and started digging a hole to set the baseline
Yeah DC movies feel like they are either generational like The Dark Knight or literally the worst thing ever
Good to know that they're trying out some stuff in the middle

surprised the warrior discord icon is still rainbow
wonder if anyone realizes its almost august
Our support is all year round
have it on to piss off idiots
Wasnt that last month
Or it is only men's in june and in general in july
Oh okay, Mental Health Awareness Month is in May
There’s 2 different months for it, ones mental health month and the other one is like men’s mental health month
But... that is 2, out of 3?
Yeah at work so readying quickly
2 out of 3 what
I must’ve missed but did we do one for the mental health month?
Well, if men is in june, generic is may - I kinda feel you forgot half the population?
Where is the third month
We got a generic month, for everyone. We got a month for men, what about women? 
Every day is women’s day when you’re married 🧐

But, women’s history month is march
It’s called maternity leave


Every time someone cries about the rainbow it sticks around another month
Day 3 of asking blizzard to fix ignore pain
They are trying to teach you to ignore your pain

How is it broken rn?
indeed
How are warriors looking next season?
Arms looks to have more top parses on M Mughzee; if I'm simming 3.14m with Fury and 3.04 with Arms on ST patchwerk am I better off going Fury?
Its an execute fight so thats why you see Arms more but you can play either at this point
If i'm trying to get the best dmg I can though should I go for which is simming higher or go with the slightly better spec?
the better spec
for the boss specifically
Thanks, I gemmed and enchanted for Gally last week, we got CE but I didn't hvae a mugzhee kill. So i'm learning it with them and wanting to get a good parse
and arms is a lot better because a lot of logs lust in execute which is great for arms, it also has really good cd timings for arms and there is a 2nd target that spawns right in execute phase and on the boss so you can sweep it
its the best arms fight in the whole raid
haha didn't realize. I'll see what gems and stuff I can do to fight down mastery for crit
well i guess cauldron is a better fight, but thats the second fight in the raid so who cares
i dont understand why we dont have a cosmetic glyph for it
I don't understand how glyphs are so neglected. We should have a glyph journal and everything, and should get new cool ones every couple of patches. Wasted opportunity.
Wish granted, ingame store now has condemn glyph
I want to get your attention on the fact that Deep Wounds is Arms warrior’s mastery and one of the most iconic parts of the spec, but the glyph of Deep Wounds works for protection only
Lmao
30s max value no rage cost
would go a long way
or even 1 min but huge shield like shield of vengeance
but i think smaller shield at 30 is more value for arm
could even give us a choice node ngl
big 1min and smaller 30s
so u pick which one you need more
A lot of our glyphs don’t even work anymore, yeah
which is really crazy when in theory warrior as a concept is incredibly simple which means there are a multitude of ways to you know
make simple stand out in terms of cosmetic glyphs.
for example avatar makes us slightly larger and uh, grey.
pretty sure we can do something with that when shamans have gotten 3 ascendancy forms, paladins have had multiple iterations of wings
Druids have all their forms and claws of shirvallah in the past
so many examples but, I digress because I don’t like whining
Id take it
Like just buy token from gold
Blizzard store is not ness rmt, its what u make iy
There is a way to farm
whats higher prio in ST slayer, overpower with 2 charges or ms? ive seen/heard some conflicting answers
MS if no opportunity
No idea where you got your conflicting answers from
a mixture of guides on the internet and other warrior players ingame
You only need wowhead / warbreaker
warbreaker?
Companion & Resource site for the Warbreaker discord community
The warriors who told you something else must be bad 
could be, thats why I asked here
if i've just dinged 80 in prep for 11.2 on a new arms war, what should i spend my dinar on to get the most long term value into 11.2
Trinket right?
Nothing hero will be long term, mythic tracked and fully crafted will last a bit into next season tho. I would take hero jastor ring (assuming you haven’t done mythic raid or all +10s for a mythic track)
i am not going hard core prep for 11.2, just doing the bare minimum to hit atleast 640 ilvl
so jastor ring sounds fine to me :)(
Slam a BIS then imo if crafting is out of the question.
A higher weapon will be the single largest increase you could get and BIS is the best available.
A weapon will also help if you decide you want to dabble in a bit of fury.
Mythic craft>hc bis
Yes, of course.
Jastor, hoc, X best buys
But he said he's not looking to optimize just grab stuff for his 640 guy.
Which I interpreted as no crafting was going to take place.
Pretty sure just doing the campaign and beating the gally encounter gives you a crest to craft up to 658 or w/e
So I assumed a weapon would be crafted
Eventually/soon
is funhouse lense better than house of cards in m+ ?
Probably not. Use the Gear option in raidbot and sim it. I depends on your stat weight i guess
aight , thank you
Mastery usually lower budget therefore house of balls can be bigger value anyway 👉 
Hi everyone
Is second wind fixed?
Doesn’t seem to work on third boss in floodgate on ptr
wouldnt be surprised
@tacit crystal
did it ever work on 3rd boss flood? i know it works on 3rd boss cleft
I found some website saying season 2 ends August 4th but I can’t find a blue post to confirm it. Has anyone seen a blue post announcing the date season ends and m+ title is given out etc?
yes it has all season
I mostly just want to know when m+ score is snapshot and title is given out
Yes
Gross.
aug 5th will be the heroic week of S3, not sure when title cutoff normally happens tho
you will wait
for mfe
you WILL wait
to press SD
If colossus, and i have 4 targets and SS, should i use ST rotation? Should i wait execute range to SS, even with 4 targets?
No you do cleave rotation
So after 3 targets, cleave all day?
Ye
https://www.icy-veins.com/wow/news/dont-miss-out-all-achievements-going-away-or-changing-with-season-3-official/
according to this it seems it’ll be right before August 5th content release
ok arms friends I need your help.
Let me set the scene for you. It's a cindrewbrew key, you're coming into the IPA room and the tank is about to make a fat pull. Potion is up, you got all your cooldowns up, you got a fat collat stack waiting.
The tank pulls the 5 packs to the door, before they even fully get there, you 100% full send and slam that juicy cleave into the mobs. You see 50m next to your name on details and you scream out loud "IM PUMPING BRO". Your wife rolls her eyes and calls you a nerd.
But disaster strikes, all of the mobs turn to you in unison and say "nah, youre not". You're dead.
Is this a tank problem, or a you problem?
you
Should have pre DBTS
dbts
this is a theorhetical exercise based on something we were talking about in the prot channel
but I like to think I really captured the essence of arms gameplay
I didn't get my charge off on gally pull and it fucked my mental up so much I jumped into the hole
I think that sums up arms
Commit sudoku
one time I charged and I think apparently hit space bar and insta jumped into hole
Felt like I got some knockback tho shit was weird
dat boi said sudoku lol
So fury now has 4 target 65% cleave, while sweeps are still at 1 extra target for 75%, hehe
where arms buffs
Was talking mostly about raid, but ok
pretty sure fury sims better on pure st better too
Then I say “tricks on y’all”, throw pocket sand in their eyes and then shadowmeld
Problem with cleave is, talent investment. Vs meaty meat
Next tier 100, is fury tier

Idm
Tbf so is two points in ww
Prefer arms, but fury is ok
So it’s about the same
Nah
Just that arms loses way more from moving points around
The opportunity cost is higher
All points arent equal
Now if u delete juggernaut.. buff execute.. arms get more flex🤣
ya
After playing slayer on both for so long they feel interchangeable. Col/MT feel really different though.
On a seperate key
Fury slayer 100% flows better
Coz bladestorm is faster
And juggernsut is 5 stacks and 15 sec
Cols gotten pretty boring to me, and if it’s pretty much the same next tier. I’m probably not touching arms unless there’s an encounter that calls for it
U prob just play thane then
The whole spec is boring. We've been playing same raid talents all expac
And same m+ talents

0 gameplay switch up the entire expansion. Colossus plays just like it did week 1
Better imho

Sks doesn't change gameplay tho
Clap get better
😅
Ok ill be real
Arms rly needs a rework
And some qol fixxes
Make sks add 15 sec bleed
slayer does same also
after a bug fix today which was spotted by Wallilife/Revvez MFE3 is back

though with more mfe charges/slayer strikes from sd 2 usage the flow of execute is alot quicker, for most part your sending SD with sd2 than most other stuff
how is arms looking in 11.2 thus far? i have been out of the loop for a few weeks
same but worse
at least from what I’ve heard/seen.
I mean i presume its more important to keep up jugger r
I’m just bored and jaded and probably just need to keep my opinions to myself till next tier 
for most part SD is send on jug/sd2 because of excessive capping on it
I just want juggernaut gone
With Cs usage aswell, if you are using 1:30 on use trinkets you always hold the CS before avatar for the line up to stack cds, slight damage gain, 2 passive trinkets you full send cs and give 0 fucks
Dont u rather hold the avatar
holding cs for up to 10 seconds is alot better than holding avatar+roar+trinket for 20
Truuuueee
Well..depends
In raid
If u arent gettin extra avatar it doesnt rly matter
does when you have line ups where avatar wont anymore also
I mean im migrating to fury
i was being generous
but hey good to know
weak aura face ahhhhh spec
also this can die please ty

3% aura
It's all over gg I'm only playing fury in raid this tier cba
deadass the only buff arms needs is for them to remove juggernaut
kneecaps this spec
12.0 🙏
Blizz where's my arms rework
6 months of coping and maybe we be free
Dont even buff exe
Just remove jugg
So execute will do shit damage
a good start
yeah thats what im getting at
God just say remove slayer at this point lol
colossus = goated
Tryna make fury the better execute spec 
Fury somewhat reverted back to s2 also
fury should be reverted back to season 3 dragonflight
and they arent fixing it
Fury Jugg is 5 stacks so doesn't matter what fury does for SD
and season 4 dragonflight
Imo every warrior spec is janky as fuck right now lol
I'm down to clown
idk that version is so ass in m+ tho
s4 df was s3 df
No it wasn’t
if you played old tier set still
story of warrior for many years now
which i did
Bruh
i mean the difference between last tier and this tier is basically mob perma has 1 stack of mfe and every execute though sd ends up being +1 to another sd always and mfe replication, more times than not you will be drowning in sd, you will press it more than before
S4=s2 you can’t say that lol
can delete whole jug line and sim only lost 4k as execute is being weaved enough through sd 2 and mfe3 for most part
Fury actually presses execute next season. Live you kinda wait for mfe
I think it would be better now with thane
Obv we’d still need a TB factor to help with sustain
But the burst was so nice
Also with avatar capstone being ass now it would also be weaker
big burst
S4 2pc 2pc gang gang
I remember having to restore my S3 tier
the burst for raid was really nice. the mobs in m+ had too much hp, so you just fell off. i did really enjoy s3 fury in raid tho
yup
it would be fucking crazy with slayer hello
procs reap like a stupid amount
peak rotation
how many slam casts
Ye would need some better aoe outside of cd
so is warrior cooked on all specs season 3?
No
nah fury kinda owning
All 3 specs are looking mid which isn't a bad thing
Fury might crank tho in raid well see
I was prob going to tank this season since I don't really raid anyway besides pugging a fight here n there for a trinket
Col needs a compensation buff
It does and hopefully will pref big ST compensation buffs
Make sks affect all targets 
Or I guess they could just buff sks
That might be a good arms only buff
Play what you want man it's very rare that any spec is so bad that it's unplayable. And even if a spec looks like it. It's very likely to receive buffs throughout the patch
Yeah I know, just time is sometimes crunched so want path of least resistance pugging key but still want to do warrior as main
should I be playing arms to gear up or fury? like 630 ilvl atm
prot warrior never awful and imo it's pretty easy to play. keep shieldblock up, press ignore pain bingchill
arms is easier to gear since only 1 2 hander, but gameplay wise fury is faster for gearing
better in delves and open world
id just play whatever is more fun
i personally always switch to fury though when im doing delves and world content
Prot delves feel so free
TC or Rend in delves
Tbh with all tanks it feels free, also BM Hunter feels free, was able to do like t11s at 635
Nah even 11s are super fast as prot
oh yeah then your only option will always be prot. Dps warrior is never op enough for the general masses to pick one up as soon as they see it
Don’t even have to move for frontals
guys , is it possible to play now with Aeterial of blood instead of one vs many?
it sims 70 K st better for me but like 70k AOE less, is it worth to give it a try?
on live or ptr?
No TW raid and no special extra thing so yes
F
guys
on arms slayer
when i press sudden death when i have 2 sudden death stacks on me, it increases the cooldown of Cs and bldaestorm by 1 second
is this a known bug?
yes
pretty annoying
slayer in raid. do i use mortal strike when up or always execute?
was that answer for my q?
ah ok i see now
dont see how rend has anything to do with it
bloodletting talent makes mortal strike to rend in execute range
how people are getting 684, i just left the game for 1 month
yall think I can do a t11 delve as 635 ilvl?
Turbo boost raised the ilvl cap on hero and myth track gear
Probably not
If you go prot and take it real slow yes
Is anyone able to help me go over a log and sort out why I'm 700k dps under my sim dps?
realistically its just going to come down to reread wowhead guide for the most part, post a thing in #1347646810457636974 and ill look
@desert iris
Also which fight?😁
do you need to be max lvl to do mage tower ? im doing it on a lvl 72 and i just get destroyed from the start. i take so much dmg
you can try putting on different gear, but the scaling in there is a little different than you might expect
https://www.wowhead.com/guide/mage-tower-legion-timewalking#level-and-gear-scaling
ill try, im in all greens lol
I belieb in u
that might be a big part of it
i mean arent we scaled to lvl 45 so an epic lvl 80 is the same as a green lvl 45 ?
besides the special items with effects and trinkets
i think thinks scale to ilvl 120, so any gear below that doesn't scale up
also: dont make it harder on yourself than needed, get more talents
the stats on your gear does influence the performacne as well (crit/etc)
that part does scale
i guess ill lvl it to 80, buy the darkmoon trinkets and just cheese it with 80% versatility
shouldn't be necessary really, but if it helps it helps
be sure to rotate your spell reflect, and if you haven't read it yet, there's a lot of tips on the wowhead guide that can help
im surviving all now but dmg is poopoo
i was so long in there he started doing the ice prisons again
Also, it's a common misconception that the dps mage towers are dps centric. They are survival tests.
for the most part
I mean
Arms one was a race
If y didnt dedicate specially crafted gear and pots
Tbh i just crafted the ideally scalin socket gear but this is ages ago( was it d)
Df
What does it reward atm btw
Genuinely never done it and can't find
Ik the old appearance stuff is gone ofc
is crusader enchant cooked in mage tower
It's a recolor of the Tomb of Sargeras tier, which was the tier that did the fancy versions of T6
Pretty new to warrior. Idk how it is in raids yet but in dungeons arms feels like it has button bloat and feels like ur rotation varies a lot situationally
feels like u need a baseline of haste too cause so many buttons
Going to swap to fury for now I think
There's a WA right now because we want to delay using Sudden Death procs at times to keep up Juggernaut stacks, which is a large complaint. Nothing else really.
Is there any buttons you pretty much never press?
It was Heroic Mug’Zee
Definitely Whirlwind. If you’re not specifically talented into Cleave, which you would do for a 2-target cleave fight or AoE fight, you’re not talented into Cleave and don’t ever press the default Whirlwind. It’s damage is minimal at best
can someone tell me what the number shown in the ignore pain buff is?
Imo there’s not button bloat, there are sequences for openers for st/aoe but both are about fundamentally the same except for not using cleave in st. The wowhead rotation guide for both aoe/st are perfect to study and put to a side monitor then go to dummies and get it down
I assume the % of the maximum IP. The maximum amount of IP is somewhere around 33% of your max HP, each cast of IP contributes 30-40% to that maximum iirc, might wanna check that.
Just for a fun theorycraft build, given the season is over anyways, a build that uses Battlelord and Colussus for ST.
Not sure how viable it is, given Slayer is the higher ST, but curious nonetheless
wowhead has a Col raid build but without bl
that makes absolute sense, thanks!
Good bit behind colossus with juggernaut
watch fluffy guides on youtube for how to basically cheese them level 80 with crafted weapon is a must
I still miss it in retail
Damn, ty all. I find BL more fun to play, but have no desire to hurt my raid for 'fun'
Next season the gap will be closer as blord is the better build for colossus
Because executes still fucks😅
Anyone have some talent builds for m+ s3?
Was thinking maybe Slayer could be viable with new tierset?
But Slayer is "viable" right now in M+ as well?
doesn't everyone play collosus?


