arms

[blazing bloom]

is it normal to cap rage way faster than expending it?

[shadow ibex]

It would seem it's designed that way tbh

As unintuitive as it seems

[blazing bloom]

ok , because at times i spam slam but is not fast enough

[void bay]

i always just fuck them up so they get someone else to do it 😄

[regal dragon]

im awful at deciding 😂

[rare kite]

MM anyday

[regal dragon]

Yessir i will start a blastin

[shadow ibex]

I started warrior because in cata when I was like 13 I walked into stormwind and some prot war was on a protodrake

And I was like yea that's me

[regal dragon]

Mine was seeing Garrosh Hellscream stand up to Varian and was like yep orc warrior goated

[olive nest]

Literally same

Walked into stormwind during cata and seen a maxed out warrior on his time lost proto drake

Actual cinema

Miss that time in life for sure

I was a Nelf huntard at the time (cause of Mr T)

Immediately re rolled

Haven’t looked back since

[shadow ibex]

The guy I saw wasn't even a hardcore raider

We became friends cuz of that

There was an arms war buddy from tot I remember that got me to start playing arms instead of fury

Cuz mop fury was the bees knees

[grim oasis]

Made a warrior when I was 12yo in vanilla cuz Grom was the goat

[rare kite]

gromnak is still the goat

[shadow ibex]

Then like 4 years ago I got a message from his account that he passed away

He was mad old I was like damn

Names from another era like landsoul

Or sameyal

Bamf

They used to name the open world boes after prominent members of classes who wore that armor type

Landsoul got a helmet in ICC tho

[rose quest]

Does anyone have any vod or video from any raid testing? I can't find any online and I haven't been able to participate myself lol

[shadow ibex]

Maybe check past broadcast of people who stream war

That would be best bet

[rare kite]

@crimson charm is streaming right now

[shadow ibex]

Testing now right

[rare kite]

yuh

[shadow ibex]

[rose quest]

[shadow ibex]

Send colossus with bug

Fun and games until ms nerf

[rare kite]

current boss they are testing kinda reminds of Mother in uldir

[shadow ibex]

That fight was so weird

Just go in link nuke OK we're 2/8 now?

[rare kite]

yee, cool concept tho

[shadow ibex]

yea in theory they didnt want you going all at once cuz the dmg and adds spawned

but in true wow player fashion just solved it by throwing defensives at the dmg and dmg at the adds

[slow saddle]

🤣

[stable fiber]

i like this fight

the cloak is annoying though

it goes in the direction your walking instead of facing

so backpedaling makes you go backwards, and you kinda need to backpedal as melee since if you use the cloak itll send you into the second static wall

[vast helm]

Rogue & Warlock Buffs

huh

[stable fiber]

rogue needed some changes, warlocks got net nerfed

[shadow ibex]

i wanna try loomathar

[stable fiber]

so

[shadow ibex]

execute dmg buff

[rare kite]

cloak is a movement thing? not looked at the cloak yet

[shadow ibex]

for that fight yea

otherwise just dmg proc for dps

[candid pecan]

yeah yeah, we're next

[stable fiber]

BM hunter is extremely op

on ptr rn

[dim basalt]

All 3 hunter specs are insane

[rare kite]

huh interesting

[shadow ibex]

well you gotta port thru walls

[stable fiber]

you have to use the cloak to go through the wall or else it one shots you

[shadow ibex]

its first boss weird shit

[stable fiber]

i think its a interesting boss but a little annoying

[rare kite]

oh i'm just watching sarri and it just looks like he's charging through the wall

[shadow ibex]

yea its fine for first boss

[stable fiber]

imma try colossus now

[rare kite]

i assumed it was like you have to pass through the middle of the wall

thing

[shadow ibex]

colossus feels better than reality

cuz the tier buf

bug

[slow saddle]

What is the bug, i mean feature

[candid pecan]

MS does not consume the 100% crit chance stack, so after every dmeolish, for 14 seconds, all MS crit

[shadow ibex]

yea

[dim basalt]

Should be a feature

[vast helm]

OMG look at FDK's ST damage

[candid pecan]

kinda nice ngl

[latent moss]

keep it that way chatting

[candid pecan]

[shadow ibex]

i mean it does feel amazing

honestly i would trade it for the rend buff

[rare kite]

yeah. boomie and fdk are insane atm

[shadow ibex]

tie the duration to demo stacks spent

[shadow ibex]

castle nath type tier

[slow saddle]

My next q, do we actually beat other ppls st dmg then?🤣

[rare kite]

no lol

[slow saddle]

So even totally op

We dont rock

Smells like aura buff!!!!

[latent moss]

there are some insane outliers though

[slow saddle]

4% aura buff

[rare kite]

don't think i've ever seen this many outliers before

they will most likely get nerfed instead of warrior getting buffed

[latent moss]

they gotta start hammering them or buffing us

to tune the raid properly

otherwise shits either gonna be impossible or it will fall over

[stable fiber]

it will be nerfs

[slow saddle]

Fam

Dk will fuck

[shadow ibex]

yea

it has too much optics on it

[slow saddle]

No way they nerf em enough

[shadow ibex]

its not gonna be like frost mage or smth

[slow saddle]

Will not until after race

[regal dragon]

well watching raid looks like its fury warrior

[candid pecan]

maybe

maybe not

we'll see

[shadow ibex]

not many playing war + not many playing war playing arms

[regal dragon]

true but I'm thinkin of goin MM or Dev for the patch cope for the rework

[chilly coyote]

is there a schedule for ptr?

as in, do we know when testing is up and stuff

[shadow ibex]

yes

its in a blue post somewhere

[chilly coyote]

ok I'll go look. was considering hosting a ptr raid for my guild since we have nothing to do 6 days of the week but

would be kinda cringe if servers arent even available

[shadow ibex]

yea its only certain times

[chilly coyote]

saw. thanks lad

[shadow ibex]

we def gonna need like 8% aura buff

or fury tier for sure

[regal dragon]

fury goated?

[inner wasp]

so am i supposed to play fury in raid and arms in m+?

that's dumb

[spiral coral]

Could do prot in m+

[regal dragon]

i will be swapping toons if thats the case lmao

[inner wasp]

i got kicked off raid tank spot

i am NOT tanking

[spiral coral]

That’s right lol

[inner wasp]

i am a bum ass dps main now

[regal dragon]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-fuego-gif-12099368701239660790

[candid pecan]

trinket acquired

[floral ledge]

That's sad

[regal dragon]

Rip arms

[latent moss]

whats this

ptr testing numbers

?

[floral ledge]

yes

[latent moss]

on what

a st boss?

[floral ledge]

overall i think

[storm lark]

its good on second boss

dmg amp in exec

and a bit of 2 target

[stable fiber]

bro what even is this

just fake numbers

all good

[floral ledge]

just imagin that blizzard nerfed our tier set

zzz

[olive nest]

Is that ulrias numbers

Oh nvm

You said ptr testing

[toxic surge]

Looks like someone is intentionally promoting hunters (and as always, mages) this expansion and this someone is going to bleed subs

[storm lark]

this is 2nd boss and i was dead here for like 40seconds so i think we are fine

[swift crown]

That is

not a lot of damage

[storm lark]

Hater

[hexed saddle]

can u link me the spreadsheet

[storm lark]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1aPZSnwMrSNHRe2Q65XedqmFN4-8P0NlK4Bx03vaxclA/edit?gid=78436547#gid=78436547

[hexed saddle]

what the hell was that dude lookin at lmfao

the mythic data isnt even updated yet

[floral ledge]

chil bro mythic was today

[hexed saddle]

yeah so why are u linking heroic ptr data 😭

[grim oasis]

an excuse to doom

[hexed saddle]

theres so many other reasons to do that

dont have to link mickey mouse heroic raid ptr data

thats just misinformative

[shadow ibex]

2.6 is less than current sims

arms chopping off arms to lower ilvl next tier

[regal dragon]

we doomin yet

[minor gust]

Not much to doom about besides being ignored for changes this patch. This tier is most likely gonna be the same as last

Middle of the pack

[regal dragon]

or go fury apperantly

[shadow ibex]

anyone who super serious about arms already plays both in raid

[minor gust]

Looking at PTR boss dmg numbers is fun but doesn't mean anything when they haven't done majority of the tuning yet

[slow saddle]

Fury raid deffo bigger atm

[sacred zodiac]

shut up you are supposed to say warrior is dead cause first ptr test cycle damage is bad

[slow saddle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/761040892970139649.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[minor gust]

I mean if both are equal like last tier it's always a prog as fury angle

[sacred zodiac]

ignore that tier is still like a 2 billion % dps inc after the nerf

[regal dragon]

oh really?

[latent moss]

why play arms when u can play fury type shit

[minor gust]

Ofc fury is a better prog spec easy access to cleave dmg and is insanely tanky

[latent moss]

^

on top of fury being more consistent

sure more sd helps but jugg can still fall off

[minor gust]

Yee

[sacred zodiac]

fury when 2 target cleave walks into the room

[regal dragon]

But Arms

[slow saddle]

Only play arms if st is higher

[novel sluice]

i did 4 mil single target on second boss

arms is good on it for sure

25 percent damage amp during execute

[shadow ibex]

im still hoping for last minute jug fix

[sacred zodiac]

i do 4 mil single target right now idk what you're trying to flex

[novel sluice]

it's not a flex lol

it's information on how the spec was during the mythic testing

[shadow ibex]

lmao

[minor gust]

Just look at how the spec lines up with the fight dmg numbers don't matter

[novel sluice]

lol

[latent moss]

fury or arm

fury i assume

[minor gust]

18% buff moment

[sacred zodiac]

thane fury on live

[shadow ibex]

i jsut cant do another jugg tier

im throwin in the towel

[sacred zodiac]

idk slayer 4p jugg seems fine tbf

[naive sage]

Can you give me a suggestion about why my mortal strike is super high in m+ dmg breakdown? Even higher than cleave sometimes and I literally spam cleave on cd

[shadow ibex]

you still use it with sweeping and it still hits hard

ravger is lots of free casts overall

• cleave never used ST

[novel sluice]

the hitbox of the second boss is odd with sweeping tbh

[minor gust]

I haven't asked Fishy yet if we're back to Jugg min maxing after the Slayer tier nerf

[novel sluice]

it's hard to cleave onto the webs from the boss

[shadow ibex]

nah its still bad

[novel sluice]

it's easier to spread from the webs to the boss but since we're slayer switching targets sucks

[slow saddle]

Arms is 100%

[hexed saddle]

yeah the boss hitbox is just bad

[novel sluice]

yeah

[hexed saddle]

surely fixed before live

[naive sage]

Reasonable

[novel sluice]

but the webs are good for keeping up juggernaut

[latent moss]

i mean we were jugg maxxing anyway

[novel sluice]

was able to keep juggernaut up for like almost half the fight at 15 stacks

[latent moss]

mfe>1 2sd sd falling off jugg falling off

[slow saddle]

But i dont want to juggle juggernaut

[fresh spire]

uh

[latent moss]

unlucky

[novel sluice]

well that's just how arms is lol

[minor gust]

Yes and no it was more MFE min max Jugg whatever

[novel sluice]

it's dumb but yeah

[latent moss]

it was at 2 or 3 mfe

right now in 11.1 its 3 mfe only

[sacred zodiac]

2 mfe min maxing sounds diabolical

[latent moss]

idk about ptr after changes

[slow saddle]

Juggernaut with high uptimr is bad for game

[shadow ibex]

yea

[sacred zodiac]

juggernaut should last less than a gcd

[shadow ibex]

fury angle

[latent moss]

juggernaut should explode

remove it

[shadow ibex]

[hexed saddle]

ur so bravce

[slow saddle]

Works on fury

[novel sluice]

i mean they should add back the venthyr arms talent that let us execute above 80 and below 35

[slow saddle]

At 5 stacks and 15 sec

[novel sluice]

why does black arrow mm get that talent

[sacred zodiac]

no they should not

[novel sluice]

and arms doesn't

[hexed saddle]

its been suggested

[novel sluice]

it just seems out of character

yeah i know

[minor gust]

11.2 you were sending sudden death at 1 MFE

[latent moss]

remove massacre

[shadow ibex]

MM got passive cleave too dont they

[novel sluice]

suggesting things to blizzard is just yelling into the void tho

[hexed saddle]

it is odd tho

[shadow ibex]

[latent moss]

mfe>1 not >=1

that was in the apl

[fresh spire]

found a few versions yet of ways to play execute, either refreshing jug at 5 seconds and ignoring mfe, or refreshing at 2 seconds and sending when MFE>1

[latent moss]

no clue if something changed now with slayer nerfs

[slow saddle]

I just want juggernaut gone

[latent moss]

i will explode myself

[shadow ibex]

there's no fucking way they can know about this shit and be ok with it

like come the fuck on this is so fucking stupid

[fresh spire]

but regardless of that if MS and op is on CD you send SD if any stacks of MFE are up

[minor gust]

Yeah sorry meant that

[latent moss]

at least that cringe is gone ig

[latent moss]

its so crazy tho the fact that they know about all of this and the fact that you and archi gave them a good solution

and they dont care

idk

[minor gust]

Yeah I was ready to take a break from arms in raid if we had another Jugg min max tier

Was gonna be fury only for raid and vibe

[latent moss]

im gonna fury anyway

[shadow ibex]

its such awful gameplay

[slow saddle]

Same

[latent moss]

fuck slayer arms

[shadow ibex]

and at odds with how theyve made everything else

downtime is so felt

[minor gust]

Probably anyways this tier but I'll at least play mostly arms for farm

[slow saddle]

Class of conditionals

[fresh spire]

Archi sent them like a 1k word page of sims and recommended changes with sim analysis to go along with it. Hes trying to get it solved

[slow saddle]

Is slayer arms

[fresh spire]

just blizzard slacking again

[latent moss]

typical

[slow saddle]

They deleted juggernaut on prot???

[minor gust]

Yup and not for us

[latent moss]

the entire point of slayer is sd power and they make it cringe

[hexed saddle]

[slow saddle]

Delete on arms as well

[shadow ibex]

how can you slack when the work is done for you tho

[latent moss]

????

[shadow ibex]

like that's even more damning

[slow saddle]

Most new player sre prob dk ret and mage

With hunter sprinkles

So reworks for them first god forbid of ret have a hard time in their weekly 10

[fresh spire]

im assuming you saw the pictures in the work channel

[slow saddle]

Blizzard wants us to not rely on weakauras

Makes slarms

[shadow ibex]

if thats true then idk that really paints a picture for how much they care to fix stuff

[slow saddle]

Op procs sd timers and all that jazz

[shadow ibex]

i woulda rather not known they had a whole essay sent to them lol

[slow saddle]

Same

[shadow ibex]

cuz that just confirms oh they just dont give a fuck

[slow saddle]

Lets blame archie

[jade ember]

Now now I've bragged on Archi because he takes care of us so well recently

[grim oasis]

your best bet is to just hope the dev is open to feedback.

some are and some arent

[minor gust]

They just holding it for later with how this ptr cycle went seems like they are only focusing on a handful of specs at a time

Will prob see that stuff for the next expansion.

[fresh spire]

[hexed saddle]

send me the link idk if i did

[minor gust]

[shadow ibex]

next patch surely

one of them has to be the patch

[fresh spire]

maybe .5 chunky shake up, but the spec as a whole is very overdue a heavy fix up which is likely going to end up being next expansion now, unless blizzard throws a huge curve ball and pushes a suggest jug change before patch, (very unlikely now at this point if i had to assume )

[latent moss]

SURELY midnight

right

[fresh spire]

Copenight

[latent moss]

i mean NO WAY right

no way we dont get reworked

both dps warriors need a rework bad

idk prot dont play it enough

[smoky kayak]

I wouldn't say they don't care, but development isn't always a speedy process and the tier set does help the Jugg gaming issues (not really in the best way, but it does help)

[minor gust]

nah its too late its prob just tuning from here till release

[minor gust]

my guess is no more .5 changes since we didnt get any for 11.1

[latent moss]

i mean yeah but still that change would be so good and we have numbers and everything

[smoky kayak]

I agree, but you know how it goes

all we can do is throw shit at the wall and see what sticks

....kinda like M+ tuning

[latent moss]

[shadow ibex]

we always say next patch next expac

one of them will be the 1

[jade ember]

Looking at Fury for dungos next season isn't exactly lifting my spirits that's for sure

[regal dragon]

thats how i feel

[fresh spire]

would be nice if they made RB more consistant for reaps in extra target situations

maybe thane will finally get the gigachad monster buff its deserved for the last year and finally will crush keys

👀

300% blast damage

[jade ember]

Maybe I'm thinking about it poorly but intentionally designing the tier set that goes with our good-at-aoe hero talent to not scale with aoe is pretty sour

[shadow ibex]

the fury situation is honestly insane yea

just meh in keys all expac and thane hasnt had a niche at all really

[fresh spire]

it was the go too for high pushing s1 right?

[shadow ibex]

supposed to be constant aoe but the only pulls that last that long are big ones and its target capped

[shadow ibex]

i think its still been worse than colo

[regal dragon]

time for boomie

[shadow ibex]

better than sl fury but thats a low bar ig

[fresh spire]

they need to buff clap/blast/bt enough that you never want to press it in thane, so your whole came is just to clap and clap harder

👏

[minor gust]

again Reap working with WW save us

[rare kite]

over slayer sure. but arms was just better, tho the gap wasn't as big as it is in s2

[shadow ibex]

it also got buffed like 2/3 thru s1 i wanna say

maybe like 3/4th

so for a lot of it, it was even worse

[rare kite]

yeah, like a bit over halfway through or something. thane was dead for a while and now it's gonna be dead again most likely

[shadow ibex]

same ppl who also nerfed colossus 5% dmg amp to 4% only to rebuff it later in tier

[fresh spire]

we got given op instead, 20%, no sweeping value

if it did work with sweep it likely would be pretty good

[olive nest]

Buff Dreadnaught

[shadow ibex]

happy with warrior is my villain origin story

[rare kite]

truu. i stg they better not say the same in Midnight

[minor gust]

something tells me its prob harder to code WW activating reap

[rare kite]

frozenbozo villain origin story was something else, but he asked me not to mention it

[minor gust]

If someone brings up the SOA and SOS change going into TWW I activate like William Dafoe in Green Goblin

[jade ember]

We're gonna complain really hard in 11.2 about the disparity between Arms and Fury in dungeons and they gonna be like "aight yall want the same?" and target cap Cleave to 5 in Midnight.

Monkey's paw curls

[fresh spire]

Fury needs help not arms

For keys

[jade ember]

Correct

[shadow ibex]

roar needs help

[fresh spire]

Capping arms won't solve fury being ass

[shadow ibex]

lmao what the fuck is that button even

[jade ember]

It was a joke fren

[minor gust]

kinda crazy they didnt just say fuck it well see what happens and make meatcleaver 8 targets

[rare kite]

ye tuning wise fury needs more help in keys. i think arms needs more help playstyle wise

[minor gust]

just that singular change and call it a day

[regal dragon]

Warrior rework entire class

[minor gust]

will never happen buddy sorry

[shadow ibex]

dont think we have an advocate really

i mean they were willing to give DK an empower spell

lmao

[jade ember]

Were, not anymore

[shadow ibex]

seeing them willing to do those level of changes for a spec

[minor gust]

Dratnos made a whole segment about it and I guarantee you devs watched that vid

[shadow ibex]

obv it didnt stick

[shadow ibex]

they need to do a whole fuckin podcast episode on warrior atp this shit is cooked

fact they were entertaining giving a brand new mechanic to DK but cant get jug axed

[minor gust]

not happening

[rare kite]

about what? fury target cap or warrior needing a rework? or both

[minor gust]

especially since were not the worst designed class in the game

[minor gust]

Fury target cap

[shadow ibex]

i think raid arms is close cuz of jug gameplay

its gotta be top 3

[jade ember]

It is a very talked about subject but Dr. Atnos is one of the more outspoken people about how bad it is

[minor gust]

Dratnos made a vid of his 10 top thing hes hates about wow and one of those things were target cap and specifically talked mostly about fury

[rare kite]

ngl i think even with a warrior rework they will keep fury targetcap

[shadow ibex]

i just wanna hear justification for it

[minor gust]

nah im playing Frost dk live right now and this shit is disgusting bad to play its crazy how good the 11.2 changes saved it

[shadow ibex]

they will say something like oh different dmg profiles

[minor gust]

just like with what they did to 11.1 DH

they saved that spec

[shadow ibex]

but for some reason no one asks that 5 target has never been relevant

[minor gust]

shit is so smooth and fun to play now

[rare kite]

i'm playing alot of dh right now. shits fun af

[shadow ibex]

if we have prot war ill probably ask to be dk

[olive nest]

It really should just be 8 targets for meatcleaver, they can control it with the whirlwind talents so it doesn’t hurt ST, and abilities like OF, Roar, BS should be able to hit all targets reduced beyond 8

I don’t understand what is so complicated

[minor gust]

yeah the 11.1 changes made it such a fun spec to play 10/10 its close to perfect

[regal dragon]

I need to ask about evoker

time to find evoker discord

[jade ember]

Yeah the % on Meat Cleaver and WW/Clap talents don't seem like difficult knobs to turn

[olive nest]

It wouldn’t be

[shadow ibex]

yea problem was rime procs were pointless and shit

[jade ember]

Fury does suffer from ST buffs being cleave buffs like Frost used to tho

[olive nest]

They’re just trying to force this idea of “niche” damage types

[shadow ibex]

or RP was pointless cuz im swimming in KM/rime procs

[olive nest]

Like bro nobody wants to only hit 5 targets when there’s 40 on the screen

It’s just stupid they need to give it up

[minor gust]

overcapping runic power ignore rime procs only being able to consume 1 KM your aoe rotation is complete cancer garbage

[jade ember]

Suffer in the sense of tuning being more difficult

[shadow ibex]

crazy how cosmetic resource is lame

[minor gust]

what an awful garbage spec frost dk was holy shit they needed this rework bad

[rare kite]

yuh, getting dh spot next tier, then i come back in midnight for warrior. i love this class but it's kind of like an abusive gf/bf, need to walk away

[minor gust]

tho plz plz plz bring back the empowerd breath

that shit slapped

[olive nest]

I hear dk reworks are fun to play also

Would you agree?

[minor gust]

Frost yeah

very fun

Unholy I heard they hate it and it sucks idk tho

[shadow ibex]

ive never played unholy in my life

fuck pet classes

[minor gust]

ive never really liked unholy

[fresh spire]

Pandaria dk fucked

[olive nest]

Hmm maybe my guildy was just hyping up the mastery being good now

[minor gust]

was always a frost guy

[fresh spire]

Loved unholy in tot

[rare kite]

i played a little bit of unholy in bfa. shit did alot of damage but wasn't very fun

[shadow ibex]

2h frost is for when i cant play this shit anymore

[olive nest]

2h oblit is my preference

[rare kite]

played fdk in WoD but i was just a battlegrounds player back then. holy moly grip obliterate and the guy just died, was very fun

[olive nest]

Gaming around breath is cool except when it drops and you can’t do anything about it because of tank speed

[shadow ibex]

yea thats only thing i dont like about frost is how slow i am

[minor gust]

Warrior is still a fun and good prog class to me so fury and arms would have to be super cooked for me to quit it. Plus I could never prog mythic on a DH I do to much stupid shit

[shadow ibex]

but if i played it as a main for a season i would probably run with a tank in guild or find 1

[minor gust]

having charge and leap carries my enjoyment of this class

[rare kite]

fury is fine i think, but arms has reached that "super cooked" level for me. can guarantee i will die to stupid shit a few times on dh, tho i have charged through a few mechanics as warrior as well

charging through zskarn bomb. core memory

[olive nest]

It honestly does a lot ngl

[fresh spire]

charging into gallywix zap line on mythic

[shadow ibex]

depends on jug or not for me

[minor gust]

yeah I was ready to fury only for raid in 11.2 cuz the Jugg min maxing for 2 tiers killed my soul. Thankfully Fury slayer still slaps

[olive nest]

You gotta hold the strafe key for a second before charging

Kek

[shadow ibex]

if we do this jug shit next tier i probably wont play arms till farm

.5 patch by then surely will remove jug and make it playable again

[minor gust]

I aint expecting shit till midnight is what it is

[rare kite]

yeah, i'm in a pretty shit guild tho. so me going arms on a fight like mugzee does make the difference and i would get "forced" to play it. very nice atmosphere in the guild tho so i bingchill

[fresh spire]

how it should be

[olive nest]

US 300-400 2 days a week

Best guilds

Get shit done

Very relaxed

[fresh spire]

where i am rn, insane chill

[rare kite]

if this guild falls apart i will do that. seems so chill

[olive nest]

You just gotta accept that some teammates will learn things a little bit slower

If you can handle that

Big big chillin

[rare kite]

ofcourse, i'm in like a rank 900 guild atm. got all the patience

[olive nest]

(We still fuck up the sprocket mine pops on reclear) lmao

[minor gust]

killed gally like 6 or 7 times now and we still wipe for almost an hour or 2 on him

[olive nest]

It’s just how it be

[mortal crag]

prio 19 down the drain

only 1 left for resi 19

[shadow ibex]

we 1 shot mug usually a ightmare for us

gally we did p fast this week i think

we only kill 3 atp tho

[minor gust]

We still dont lust on pull for mug

[shadow ibex]

we lust after spins yea

is what what most ppl do now on pull?

im so checked out

[minor gust]

yeah most lust on pull and push before 2nd jail set

[shadow ibex]

we still push before that

way before tbh

[minor gust]

guess we just have bad dps we go into 2nd jail set with him at like 44-43% and have to stop dps

[shadow ibex]

this week we pushed a little after we killed that second goblin

[olive nest]

This was my team last night lol!

Literally OAB took the longest

[shadow ibex]

took us long enough for me to lose my jug stacks from goblin death

i cant do another tier of that man

[olive nest]

It’s so upsetting to see jug stacks fall off the global before an SD proc

Especially in right before 35%

Same old same ol

[olive nest]

Damn Ragish! You wanted to win!

[mortal crag]

bad dps

so im taking pride in that instead

[near radish]

I know tank race changes season to season but has nelf always been king for dps warriors historically?

[jade ember]

Real talk the only thing that really had ever mattered for races is like Stoneform to get rid of bleeds or Shadowmeld and we're getting a Shadowmeld potion next patch anyway so it really doesn't matter.

[rare kite]

nahh depends on season. always nelf or dwarf in m+

for tank it's almost always dwarf

[untold pewter]

We don't lust on pull and push way way before 2nd jails, at 3min mark

And that's with an almost full uptime drop to avoid wiping to 2nd mines

Maybe over committing dps to first cages? Idk I find it hard to not push there with all the stacked buffs, we're not even trying to squeeze the side swaps at 98% energy anymore

[shadow ibex]

we push so fast im sure one of these weeks someone is gonna get killed by the laser that cuts off the room

[tacit crystal]

happened to me

[shadow ibex]

yea we pushed right after second goblin died p much

so still around that area doing his energy shit

[random ibex]

where is the damage "shock barrage" coming from in last phase of mythic gallywix?

[mortal crag]

We don't lust on pull and have him at like 38% by 3min

[minor gust]

yeah ppl in my raid dont do dmg unfort

[void bay]

https://www.wowhead.com/npc=231978/sharpshot-sentry

[shadow ibex]

ethereal race waiting room

surely must be next

[verbal marten]

can u guys stop killing muggy?

went from 95 to this in 2 days

💔

[open ingot]

Need to rocketeer pad more

[gleaming cosmos]

Only the parse you set once it locks in matters anyway right?

[hazy flower]

yes once it locks it wont go down

there will be a separate column showing the parse in todays %

i.e. you could've gotten 0 on prog and it can go up to 99 in today's % (theoretically)

[verbal marten]

I mean the rank

[gleaming cosmos]

Fair

[sullen stirrup]

Who are YOU

[eager pendant]

I just wanted to make sure I'm not messing something up, this is my first time trying to sim all gems. In both dungeon slice and patchwork it told me to gem everything as deadly emerald. This is contrary to the wowhead guide since the guide says to get a meta gem and then those different colored gems. It's also confusing because of stat priority on wowhead since Crit > Haste but the gems are all +147 Haste/+49 Crit -- and I would think I would want the other way around. And I double checked Murlok.io and everyone is running more Crit than haste as well.
https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ryudwogw2DC2QR72i4uF9M

[open ingot]

You y?

[void bay]

Do you have all the bis gear wowhead recommends? And if this is for m+ I think 5 man patchwerk works best for warriors

[minor gust]

Dont over think things especially when it comes to stats and gems. Just slot your movespeed meta and grab 4-5 colors and call it a day. Gem min maxing is negligible. Stat prios like on wowhead are for people who dont sim. If you sim theres no need to think about stats just sim all your gear through Top Gear.

You dont wanna be a Tom now do you

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/933386399279878154/991343673419763753/caption.gif

[ancient scroll]

looks like they removed pre-stacking in dungeons next season

[near radish]

sad zug noises

[brittle pelican]

🪵

[ancient scroll]

we are cooking on ptr boys

[magic canopy]

the demolish 2p is crazy strong

[open ingot]

The damage is kinda sad thats with full phys comp

[ancient scroll]

huh

[open ingot]

The arms warrior dmg is on ptr or current?

[magic canopy]

i mean we were getting creamed by good rogues depending on the dungeon. same thing in big aoe packs without prestack

thats insanely good damage for warrior esp when you consider 5% buff to the other 3

[open ingot]

Its ok

I mean frost and bm boomie are floating 9mil overall

[ancient scroll]

lol

we were wiping a bunch on bosses

like 75% of that is single target

[open ingot]

Ahh k

[quaint otter]

Chill its ptr numbers...

[sharp wyvern]

What's a bm boomie

[untold pewter]

A feral druid

[fresh spire]

[naive sage]

Don’t be a killjoy

[fair siren]

avg new player comment its chill

[open ingot]

I was just saying it how it is.

We got heaps of time for balance and im playing war regardless next season

[strange perch]

Valorant

[naive sage]

what

[strange perch]

Valorant

Killjoy

[naive sage]

I never spent a single second on Valorant so i have no idea what you’re talking about friend

[icy mulch]

I'm playing warrior either way as well. Don't get your hopes up though. Blizzard has a proven track record of being absolutely pathetic when it comes to actually balancing Warrior.
It'll end up being garbage.

[open ingot]

honestly if its anything like this season im fine with it

[naive sage]

Frost dk you mean tho?

[open ingot]

yeh frost dk

[naive sage]

How is enha going

[open ingot]

uhh

its top end iirc

better then ele atm

i think ele single targ is a bit weird atm

[icy mulch]

Fury is going to be so far behind in M+ it's a joke. Arms will be sorta Ok, but will be awful to play.
Prot, well, that's gonna be dead in the water if they nerf FbV.

[open ingot]

i love fury

i dont mind playing arms

but i will stat fury for raid again

and just arms m+ again

[naive sage]

I played enha for the whole of TWW (after a lifetime of warrior arms) but I was wondering whether I should change main or not

[icy mulch]

Enjoy the RB spam.

[naive sage]

Or maybe use a character for raid and one for pushing m+

[open ingot]

yeh they keeping just adding extra to rb every patch

[open ingot]

i mean its up to you at the end of the day just play what you enjoy

[naive sage]

I’m in a CE guild now and I’d like to see endgame content for once

[open ingot]

i would just pick what your comfiest on

if your getting into CE stuff the less you have to think about your rotation to perform well the better you will execute mechs

and learn how to best utilise your cds

from fight to fight

[naive sage]

Good point, but I’d rather not play bm or fury (for example)

[open ingot]

easy spec by default doesn't make it the comfiest

i loved fire mage in dragonflight and learned the shit outta it and was super comfy on it in raid

just flowed nice

[naive sage]

Then I’d just go on with enha but there is an enha already and he’s a better player than me probably

[open ingot]

If you really want to play a class and love a class you will learn it inside out and perform on it

thats how it is for me anyways

[fresh spire]

Only thing that will save fury is giga buffing thane to the moon

But after 1 year of letting it rot can't see that happening

[open ingot]

fury needs alot of help i think just wait for next expac at this point

im not even sure numbers can really "fix" it in m+ now

[strange perch]

spezz, that is completely fine, even good to be honest. killjoy is a character in valorant she is an engineer and keeps saying stuff about german engineering. i hope you have a wonderful day and i also hope that warrior gets a rework soon or whatever it is you desire.

[fresh spire]

[strange perch]

ooooh krispy i can't resist you 😍

[naive sage]

Thanks king you too if you’re not being sarcastic

[strange perch]

i am not being sarcrastic

thank you

[grave mulch]

early days and people are like

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1230008337517514772/1273720854383165601/dead-arms.gif

[fresh spire]

[light saddle]

Guys how are arms/fury looking for S3? Looking at this it looks like fury is the spec to play

[dim basalt]

Correct

[light saddle]

So when do they nerf fury?

[storm lark]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/148898720803586048/1114308309143519383/IMG_3926.gif

bis spec

[fresh spire]

You mean buff arms

Problem is fury is only strong as its not had a tier bonus for the entire of the expansion so its been tuned around it. Suddenly 20% tier. Fury will be ahead because of it

Better for them to just buff arms to bring it closer than attempt to shoot fury and end up fucking up execute usage once more

(Both also underpreforming in raids on testing)

[light saddle]

Yeah man but they do a lot of damage to irrelevant adds

Better to just nerf it to be safe

[fair tinsel]

I agree nerf fury

they already dominate at competitive +11 delves

[light saddle]

This ^

And leveling

[fair tinsel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/148898695696482305/1285353121102561311/dead-fury.gif

[naive sage]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/761040892970139649.gif?size=96&quality=lossless

[dim basalt]

[near radish]

people here use focus targets, what bind you got that on?

[dark cypress]

Hello guys, is there any reason why we wouldn't press Sweeping Strikes off cd? Is there anything we can macro it with? The individual gcd it has is quite annoying

[quaint otter]

Ask blizzers

[fresh spire]

It has a gcd so no

[dark cypress]

I mean I'm Fury main & I'm forcing myself to learn Arms in case there's any world where it's way stronger on some content but the spec feels very old & clunky yeah

Would need some rework

[rare kite]

We've been asking for many years

[dark cypress]

I pray with you Arms mains

[spiral coral]

Single target

[fresh spire]

Fury needs a fix up just as much arms

[dark cypress]

Fury feels fine except aoe cap

[dim basalt]

Definitely not

[quaint otter]

tbh fury feels clunkier for me atm

arms has more +haste windows

[dark cypress]

Interesting, why ?

[spiral coral]

I’ve been playing slayer so long with fury/arms. they feel the same at the moment for me.

Except arms just does more

[dark cypress]

Slayer yeah

More what?

[spiral coral]

Damage

[dark cypress]

Ah oki

Haven't met Arms beating me but rarely meet Arms players

So I don't know

[dark cypress]

On M+ bosses isn't it worth to press for the Cleave damage buff from rage spending still?

[dim basalt]

A good arms should be crushing you in pure ST

[dark cypress]

Tho Fury was best dps on Sprocketmonger mythic

Not Arms

[spiral coral]

You aren’t hitting cleave in st

[dark cypress]

I know usually

Just since the talent is taken in M+

Wouldn't it be worth to have the +200% dmg Cleave from time to time

[dim basalt]

There was no dps check to meet

[quaint otter]

wdym

[dark cypress]

Collateral Damage

[quaint otter]

if u have it set yes press

does few mills to target

[fresh spire]

Won't get colateral stacks unless your able to sweep a target.

[dark cypress]

Oh I read the talent wrong

[fresh spire]

In that situation you are already using cleave low prio on damage

[spiral coral]

Pretty sure it’s better to hit slam

[dark cypress]

I remembered something like based off Rage spent during Sweeping Strikes

[fresh spire]

Cleave casts slam on 2 target with key build

Fob

[spiral coral]

WoWhead doesn’t tell me to hit cleave in st. I’m not hitting cleave in st.

[dark cypress]

It's my bad I remembered the talent wrong

[spiral coral]

It’s all good. I mean most bosses feel like their in pairs this season

Not really, but, this season felt right for arms in m+ with two target stuff

[dark cypress]

Idk I only play Fury (I have 3 of them lol) & in raid & M+

Just learning Arms for s3

In case

I like the bleeds, Overpower & Mortal Strike feeling

Not fan of Demolish & overall the aoe gameplay

Is it viable to play Slayer in M+ ?

[spiral coral]

I played fury the majority of the season after being an arms otp forever.

[dark cypress]

Like +15 & above

I play Fury in 16-17s

So I wonder

[spiral coral]

Fury slayer?

Trolling

[dark cypress]

Fury Thane

[spiral coral]

Fury thane is fine

[dim basalt]

You can play Slayer Arms in M+

[dark cypress]

But wondering about Slayer Arms

[quaint otter]

No u

[dim basalt]

Just dont expect to do as much damage

[dark cypress]

I don't like Colossus

[spiral coral]

I mean, not fine but 17 is where I hit my ceiling for fury

But I’m bad

[plush smelt]

Colossus fun

[dark cypress]

With the right comp it's fine but yeah it starts to get hard lol

[plush smelt]

And after you cant cancel demolish anymore

Gonna be way cleaner

[dim basalt]

Slayer is an abomination of a hero spec

[dark cypress]

To each their own 👀

[quaint otter]

Yes. Buffing iconic arms ability that does negative damage

[spiral coral]

Unless I learn how to play without the WA, yes, I agree.

[shadow ibex]

Slayer aoe just not really supported SD procs do nothing for your aoe really

[dreamy sandal]

You can play Slayer fury pretty fine up to like +18 keys

[dim basalt]

RNG in ST and AOE

[quaint otter]

[spiral coral]

I know

[quaint otter]

I was fucking hyped to play bladestorm fury again like in sl

But ...

[dim basalt]

[quaint otter]

Balls

[spiral coral]

Oh I read that as Slayer Arms. Yeah I don’t think so. Slayer Fury in m+ is balls.

[quaint otter]

Slayer arms is kinda alright too

Colossus just much better

[dreamy sandal]

People have timed +18 and +19 keys with it. It works, but is obviously worse than thane

[spiral coral]

Yeah I’m sure they have, just, seems silly.

[fresh spire]

If you are playing slayer arms in keys may as well juat play fury

[spiral coral]

And inefficient

[dark cypress]

Get carried 👀

The hard cap is awful

[dreamy sandal]

We are playing warriors, we are already inefficient

[dark cypress]

At least Thane offers a soft cap

[quaint otter]

3 second bs cast doesnt feel good rn tbh

[dreamy sandal]

Slayers does as well, Reap the storm is soft capped

[quaint otter]

bad details

[dark cypress]

Yeah but the whirlwind hard cap sucks

[dreamy sandal]

indeed

[dark cypress]

At least Thane has Thunder Blast

I'd love to try Arms Thane but it's rip

[spiral coral]

The one redeeming quality about fury slayer was at times I was gapping people in boss damage sometimes but, wasn’t enough to justify the terrible AoE. Just loboz build feeling but opposite

[plush smelt]

Ya and arms has cleave and demolish

Which nuke tblast

[shadow ibex]

Just strictly worse than other options

Fury I mean

[spiral coral]

Yup

[shadow ibex]

Baffling hasn't gotten a rework

[plush smelt]

Midnight kekw

[dark cypress]

If they want to remove most combat addons they gotta rework many classes

So maybe then

[plush smelt]

And the playstyle for next season for fury slayer is looking to be even more degenerate

[shadow ibex]

Any other spec would it's objectively pointless to bring beside own RP

[rough sluice]

Warrior rework when wow 2 launches

[shadow ibex]

And yea busted playstyle

[dark cypress]

An a Fury OTP I feel attacked 🥺

[plush smelt]

Like 0 prio on BT it seems like on almost all stacks of bloodcraze

Just send sudden death executes instead

[shadow ibex]

Like how they can defend it

Need 2 weak auras

Lmao

[spiral coral]

I love your optimism. Gives me hope.

[quaint otter]

Literally need weakauras for any spec rn

Except ww and fury maybe

[plush smelt]

In raid i play fury, the playstyle is just degenerate as opposed to last season

[quaint otter]

[rough sluice]

Ret?

Bm hunter?

[plush smelt]

The dmg profile is flat as fuck

[quaint otter]

Didnt play that

[quaint otter]

U need

[spiral coral]

Ew

[shadow ibex]

I think tracking mfe and bloodcraze is p bad

[rough sluice]

You dont need wa for either

[spiral coral]

Hell yeah

[plush smelt]

You press bladestorm in ST and your dps meter doesnt move

[quaint otter]

U better have to track buffs and bleeds

Major dps gain

Fury on the other hand not that big of a deal

[rough sluice]

Those are tracked on enemy unitframes

[dark cypress]

Yeah 3s cast for almost the same dmg as RB or BT XD

Feels weird

[rough sluice]

And current bm hunter is turn brain off press barbed on cd anyways

[quaint otter]

Other are on buffs frames and

[shadow ibex]

Track blood craze looking at your buff bar sounds opposite of fun

As well as vicious contempt point

[quaint otter]

🤷‍♀️

I mean the was doing the same thing in a better way

[spiral coral]

brew masters base ui for stagger should be illegal

[quaint otter]

Correct.

[dark cypress]

It would be very easy to change the visual information without WA, just have BT icon change when 100% crit for example

[quaint otter]

Also a vitality buff

[plush smelt]

Only time it feels good to press rn is on gallywix adds but even then the ret pally and boomkins are nuking harder than i am with divine hammer and convoke shenanigans

[quaint otter]

Cant track it via looking at buffs

[dark cypress]

Yup

[quaint otter]

it goes down in aoe scenarios even

[dark cypress]

Still, I love Fury, smashing buttons with a very linear damage profile

[shadow ibex]

When I get to spend 20% of my globals to aoe

[plush smelt]

I would rather have interminent burst windows like in s1 idk

[shadow ibex]

[dark cypress]

Then play Sub 👀

[spiral coral]

I’ve been playing BM Hunter pretty hard. It literally feels like ranged fury and it’s so easy. Feels unfair.

[plush smelt]

Nty

[quaint otter]

Yes i play fury from time to time cuz i like the linear loop

[dark cypress]

Puts a lot of value on uptime

[quaint otter]

Or ench and burst every 30 sec burst harder every minute

[spiral coral]

I get all this movement. Never have to stop downtime. Fuck load of utility to do all sorts of niche things. Have lust. And I only have to press? 2 buttons?

[dark cypress]

3

To keep up the buff

[quaint otter]

4 for aoe

[dark cypress]

I want the same buff for Fury AOE

Soft cap

Instead of that stupid Meat Cleaver

[rare kite]

Yuh and MM feels like ranged arms

[quaint otter]

alive game

[spiral coral]

I like pets too much if I’m gonna play this boring ass class I’m going to have something to look at

[dark cypress]

I prefer MM cause I'm a Sylvanas wannabe

[quaint otter]

True
Like ench has crushing lightning

[dark cypress]

& I need that Dark Ranger style

[spiral coral]

Mm st in ptr right now is cracked

[shadow ibex]

Testing as war felt p bad ngl

No fury fight yet really or arms imo

[plush smelt]

From what i saw, fury/arms dont look terrible

Just not exceptional

Removing the insane outliers of frost dk and hunter

It actually made me more sad to see that warrior wasnt worse

Cause it prob means we arent going to get any meaningful buffs outside of the tierset (which is really good but makes the playstyle pretty degenerate)

[grim oasis]

Just pray for rework in midnight

[shadow ibex]

No playstyle changes for 3 tiers is

[dim basalt]

Hey, we used SkS as Slayer in S1

Thats enough for Blizzard

[shadow ibex]

First heroic dungeon at cap as colossus feels a lot like ptr keys

[spiral coral]

Im glad there’s like 4 brews I play with. what’s the buff? 8 percent?

that’s too damn much

[shadow ibex]

Yea we have mw and ww for raid but no brewmasters for m+ idt

[near radish]

I made the opposite swap lol

[spiral coral]

I ain’t swapping. Just hunter is my main alt going into next season. Fire mage was my main alt this season.

Combustion = dopamine

[near radish]

I’m going plate melee next season pal/war/dk probs just play in order of meta

[latent moss]

i dont wanna doom but compared to pala and dk

we are cooked

at the moment that is

[spiral coral]

Then you’ll be playing DK

Gonna be busted next season book it lol

[olive nest]

Frost DK

Reign supreme

[spiral coral]

Yeah

[near radish]

Yeah I don’t mind I only really played ret to 3k stopped for a while then last week played warrior to 2.8 so frost will be new for me

Didn’t really jam any unholy

[spiral coral]

They @ the discord so blizzard listened

[near radish]

Oblit is fun

If 2h is viable I’ll have fun anyway

[spiral coral]

The murmurs of a 3rd DH spec have died. I’m assuming that’s not happening? Lol

[olive nest]

Think it was a fun meme

Would be shocked if it was real

[spiral coral]

Okay. Haven’t heard anything about it in like a week

So I figured it was a #onallfours situation

[grim oasis]

Frost won't go live like this, nor boomie or bm

[spiral coral]

I bought a server transfer like, two years ago. Area-52 will never be open 😔

[olive nest]

Surely

Only warrior can’t be strong

[thick kelp]

Coould be an end of expansion .7 patch typa thing

[fresh spire]

Legion remix brings it out

[thick kelp]

cinema

[shadow ibex]

[olive nest]

Imagine how upset DHs will be when it’s a remix only spec

[steep osprey]

wow players being upset about something that was probably never gonna be a thing

classic

[rare kite]

i mean that 3rd dh spec has wayy too many hints. like a shit ton more than aug had and i was one of the people going "nah WoW can never have a support spec and they wouldn't add it midpatch"

[shadow ibex]

I think it's just new dh races at best

A new spec i mean if they think they can balance another by all means go for it

[olive nest]

I don’t think they really give a rats ass if they can balance anything or not

clearly

[shadow ibex]

Yea was gonna say

3 tiers of fury being pointless in m+ incoming

[spiral coral]

Two tank specs

[winged quiver]

We were good in TWW beta to be fair. Did so much burst damage we would pull aggro and die. Then they took it away from us for padding on insignificant adds 😦

[olive nest]

Imagine if they just massively reduced threat generation of the problem abilities instead of nerfing the damage

But nooo can’t have fun!

[void bay]

Didn't they increase tank threat twice instead?

[olive nest]

Yeah when the problem has always been dps warrior generates too much threat

I practically breath on mobs and bars start turning towards aggro

[warm fog]

Tanks aggro is broken in part because of how they changed tank damage

All the gather abilities do zero damage

[spiral coral]

Dorki made a really good video on tank issues in m+ yesterday

[warm fog]

Yep that’s the one

We went from thunderclap hitting pretty hard to almost doing nothing

Same with spinning crane kick etc

[spiral coral]

Tanks can’t do damage cause it’ll hurt dps’ feelings

[warm fog]

Everything is like cooldown based so your 4th or 6th global on a gather is what does big dam instead of your 2nd

[untold vault]

Hello guys, i cannot decide, i played fury at the start of the season, then switched to arms, now im sitting at 680 ilevel and i really do not like much arms, i loved the button smashing fury... is it that much different in terms of overall m+ dps? Sims are inconclusive.. as they show similiar damage, in dunegon slice, even 10x Patchwerk, the dps is 5% apart in arms favour. I would like to test it in game, but as arms i get invited way more often and i also would not like to waste anybodys key, just to test things out in live server lol. What do you think?

[teal fossil]

Apply as arms and swap fury when they put in the key

[boreal remnant]

If you don't like arms then don't play arms

[teal fossil]

Also can they even see your spec in lfg

[boreal remnant]

I can see spec

[untold vault]

I think they can see spec, ofcourse

[teal fossil]

Then just change it after you get accepted

Who cares

[boreal remnant]

real

[untold vault]

I like the aoe numbers

of arms

im just asking if anybody here tried swapping out them selves

and if the difference is really that huge

[boreal remnant]

you'll see a bit more overall as arms but fury does more st

[sour forge]

Swapping specs?

[boreal remnant]

if you deplete a key it's not going to be to you playing fury over arms

[sour forge]

I usually play fury on top and rookery

It doesn’t really matter much

[untold vault]

I swapped from fury to arms 20 ilevels ago.. i kinda regret, but i like more invites and more the AoE numbers, but im not sure anymore about the swap lol

could be because i played slayer fury because of my nerdy roleplay reasons of warhammer dwarf slayer 😄

[boreal remnant]

your spec doesn't matter outside of high keys

[sour forge]

It’s not that big a deal

[untold vault]

i play mostly 10-12 keys

[boreal remnant]

lol

[untold vault]

no point pushing higher in my eyes

[sour forge]

Then play what you like

[untold vault]

😄

i was getting yelled at by people saying my fury dps is not for 10 keys lol

[boreal remnant]

lol x2

[sour forge]

What kind of overalls are we talking

[untold vault]

660 ilevel fury 2.8M overall dps, but slayer, not mountain thane, so AoE sucked even more

[sour forge]

I mean that’s not a liability

[untold vault]

i was making up for it in single target

where others were doing below 2M i was closer to 3M

You know what, im going fury again 😄

you convinced me

[boreal remnant]

it's your sub play what you want

you're not playing keys where spec or even braincells matter

[untold vault]

i wanted to be usefu and not a liability

[tacit crystal]

you do that by not dying and doing damage

you can time 10s with 30 deaths

they fall over

[sour forge]

If you were doing like under 2m overall then maybe they were on to something. But you’re fine

[untold vault]

thanks im convinced

onto having fun again

[olive nest]

Bro if you doing 10s you can play fury with intellect swords equipped and be fine

Go out and have fun!

[shadow ibex]

Smf daggers

[jade ember]

Think of how fast you'll get rage!

[woven cloak]

I know it’s still early, but how is arms looking going into 11.2 so far?

[thick kelp]

amazing

meta

[woven cloak]

https://tenor.com/view/i-dont-believe-you-gif-24248233

[worthy mortar]

shouldnt arms be strongest execute spec in the game and are we at least top 3 execute specs?

[weak rain]

Arms is top 1 execute phase I think

[latent moss]

not sure about that

assa rogue

is a thing

im not saying assa is better i just dont know

historically assa has been fairly competitive

with arms

[worthy mortar]

what i dont understand for example myth gallywix, p2 starts what around 50%? we go slowely into 35% and takes a while to finish him but even with 15 stacks of jugger we seems like not strongest on tht execute phase? is something else in the game?

[steep osprey]

assa has crazy amount of execute

it's wild

[teal fossil]

Here’s the thing

We gain the most damage going into execute

But we don’t do the most damage in execute

[shadow ibex]

That part

[teal fossil]

If your class does 1 mil out of execute and 1.5 mil in execute

You are still worse than a spec that does 2 mil no matter what

Just an example

Or maybe udhk does 1.4m outside of execute and 1.7m in execute

[worthy mortar]

damn.. that sucks tbf..

[shadow ibex]

Queue maximum wow talking about how this is the first tier with multiple execute phases

[steep osprey]

The abundance of SD procs for slayer means aren't doesn't really do as much damage during Execute

[shadow ibex]

How's that going for us

[steep osprey]

As opposed to Assa that gains like 35% damage increase in execute lol

[frosty pike]

return to condemn when

[worthy mortar]

ffs lol and i went from assassination to arms this patch 😄

[teal fossil]

Before they nerfed colossus execute

That shit went crazy

[worthy mortar]

still like it more than rogue cant lie

[steep osprey]

you're still gonna be more than fine playing arms

[teal fossil]

I don’t think execute is that much better rogue

[steep osprey]

if you prefer it

[teal fossil]

But I’m not sure

[worthy mortar]

i myself realised that combopoin specs are not my cup, feels so wierd to play, but ye i mean was curious about execute phase ty for explanation

[shadow ibex]

There are tiers where we have among lowest execute

[teal fossil]

Also you’d rather do more damage

[shadow ibex]

It's not at all something we are consistently the best at; it is not by any means a warrior niche

[teal fossil]

Than just more execute damage

[teal fossil]

Another victim of the legion video

Amirite

[steep osprey]

If you do more damage in execute, you get balanced around doing more damage in execute

[shadow ibex]

So if you want to be the execute class, if anything you'd be much better off picking any other spec with a random execute talent

We could very easily have the worst dmg in it just cuz how tuning falls. It's not a rarity

[worthy mortar]

thats my tought, i rly wanna be execute spec as arms, fuck me would love to see executing for milions of dmg 😄

[olive nest]

I don’t care what the profile looks like as long as it’s the highest number on wcl when the boss is dead